film for the characters since the muppets in space in 1989. kermit and the gang and miss piggy skwraeufplz ca. jaime: can i admit i want to see that? i'm jaime colby in for jenna. jon: have a great day. >> reporter: fox news learning of yet another secret meeting by social conservatives to find a republican candidate. that can stop mitt romney from winning the caucuses. welcome to america live, i'm julie banderas. i'm rick folbaum. they are hoping another republican will emerge that could win the january 3rd

caucus. two months ago during a fox news debate romney said this. >> there are a lot of reasons not to elect me or other people on the stage, but one reason to elect me is that i know what i stand for, i've written it down, words have meaning and i have the experience to get this country going again. >> reporter: now it seems that some in iowa agree with him. newt gingrich leading the gop pack with 32% in iowa. why are iowa conservatives so worried about mitt romney. joining us now is the chief congressional correspondent. i imagine that social conservatives in iowa and other. martha: of the country had thoughts long before the debate, right? >> that is true. that's why you've seen candidate

move from the bottom teurbgs er to the top tier court of in success section. recently it was herman cain, michelle bachmann, now it's newt gingrich. conservatives don't believe mitt romney is a true conservative. he's not authentic in their minds. they are looking for the tried and trued conservative. they are experimenting with all the other candidates, giving them a good look, vetting them and seeing if they stand up as the candidate that should win the primary. rick: it seems like mitt romney's positions now on issues that social conservatives care about are pretty much in line with the way that they'd like a candidate to feel about immigration, about a portion, about the sanctity of marriage. he might not have held those views a while back, but isn't it how he feels right now that matters the most?

>> in the minds of conservatives, no. he was the governor of massachusetts. he couldn't have espoused the same views now and been the governor of massachusetts, he never would have been elected there. there is a trust issue with romney, and so that's his main reason. look at his poll numbers. he seems to plateau in the 20s. he doesn't really go much further than that. if he's going to win he's going to have to expand support into the republican base, and he's unable to do that. when i talk to conservative voters they sell me, they feel like romney is the constant frontrunner but they are not satisfied. they look back to 2008. a lot of them feel like they compromised by supporting john mccain for the republican primary. the guy lost so much enthusiasm no one showed up to vote for them. they don't want to loose their opportunity this time. they want to pick someone they feel meets their requirements. rick: conservatives that i

talked to says elect built and beating barack obama is the number one concern. at the end of the day if a choice has to be made do you go with someone who you feel is the true, pure conservative or do you go with someone who is going to get this current president out of office? how do you think that comes down. >> i don't think people fell this way in 2008. the democrat in the white house, they have it in their sights. a lot of republicans feel like they can win this and i feel strongly that in the end they are going to support the nominee because they feel like it's better than having a democrat -- than having barack obama in the white house. that very much works in rofp in mitt romney's favor. rick: susan nice to talk to you. >> reporter: rinnewt gingrich firing back. he calls the criticism the price

of being the frontrunner. doug mcelway is live with more. >> reporter: newt gingrich's remarks about illegal immigration in washington d.c. continue to resonate. they are coming down hard on the frontrunner, he says illegal aeu low ands should be able to stay in the country if they have good community ties. and pay taxes. michelle bachmann has the strongest policy. >> these people should have an opportunity to get in line, to apply for permanent residency and citizenship just like anybody around the world gets in line. they should not be given a special deal by virtue of having come here illegally. >> reporter: doug schoen says newt gingrich has been espousing

this position on illegal immigration for a longtime. it's coming under greater scrutiny because of his frontrunner status. it's a position that poses potential risks and benefits for newt gingrich. >> republican and primary voters are really harshly imposed to any immigration reform, any path to citizenship or legality for the 11 million illegal immigrants in the united states. but as a matter of policy it's where newt gingrich has been, and believes, and ultimately is a issue for the general election, should he get that far, it's good politics. >> reporter: it may be especially risky for gingrich in iowa where evangelicals are deeply opposed to any kind of amnesty. gingrich is firing back to the accusation that his policy is amnesty for illegal aliens.

he says that is explicitly false. >> reporter: are republican lawmakers shunning newt gingrich? i'll be talking to a political expert live. stay tuned for that. rick: ready, set, buy, customers are racing inc into stores early this morning officially kicking off the christmas shopping season. some lining up for hours, even days to take advantage of great black friday deals, many of which are being found at outlet stores. sandra smith is from chicago premium outlets in aurora, illinois. it looks like a pretty good crowd there, sandra. >> a lot of the folks i've been talking to have driven from places that are hours away. [inaudible question] rick: sandra hang onto your

guests waoefplt have to sort out something with your audio. there is a problem with the microphone. we apologize for that. we'll get back to sandra in a bit. >> reporter: we got the message today. there are a lot of people out there today. are you going to brave the stores. rick: no way. >> reporter: i was contemplating doing two crazy things, one driving to new jersey, sorry it's a jersey joke. and the other is going to a mall. rick: you could kill two birds with one stone very easily at garden state. >> reporter: many people who traveled to visit family or friends are making their way back home. more travel delays. maria moreno, live in the weather room. am i crazy to see to new jersey. >> reporter: no, new jersey is good. we have two storms that are

going to unite and head east, including new jersey into next week. we'll look at whether the two storm systems are right now. we have one to the saw the west leaving that area now moving to the plains bringing heavier showers across west texas, heavier showers present across portions of new mexico. any snow really is across some of the highest elevations. we are not seeing a big problem with that. the snow is an issue further off to the north where we have cold air. the passes are impacted out here, gusty conditions as well. here is a look at the storm system, once both of them unite this is saturday afternoon the heaviest of the rain should be across the mississippi valley coming up saturday. julie. rick: we fixed the audio problem. let's go back to aurora, illinois. sandra smith live at the premium outlet. >> reporter: we are all in good spirits, we'll let that slide. i waepbltd you to say, what have

you seen so far? >> it's been a great day, we've seen savvy shoppers looking for the name brands that you see here at chicago outlets. >> reporter: what are you shopping for today? >> everything, everything. i traveled all the way from st. louis. >> reporter: st. louis to chicago. >> yes, yes, yes my birthday weekend. we are here to buy one of everything in the store. >> reporter: unbelievable. that is one of many stories i have heard from folks in this line, again the coach line, that are coming from hours away. some of them coming in from chicago, 45 minutes an hour away. it's all about the name brands, the big bargains and the hot deals. people say they are going to spend a little bit more this year but they are still cautious. rick: sandra smith live in aurora, illinois, with very hearty shoppers. thank you, sandra. we want one of everything. i hope she has a big car to drive it all back to st. louis

in. former house speaker newt gingrich may be surging in the polls but he's not having much luck with the big contributors, the money people. we'll look at why and whether he can hold onto his frontrunner status without a big infusion of cash. >> reporter: the family of this missing florida mom releasing the last known voice mail recording of michelle parker before she disappeared. what can be heard on that audio, and why the family hopes it will help find her. rk: not so star-spangled, the big fumble on game day that caught this "american idol" star by surprise. ♪ what so proudly we hail through the twi -- las gleaming. gas and bloating. ♪

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presidential bid from lawmakers. the former house speaker landing zero endorsements so far from capitol hill, this despite his recent double digit rise in the polls going to an average of 5 to over 23%. let's bring in a former congressman from ohio, bob mcquen. considering he is a very popular candidate it is a little surprising to many of his supporters that not one lawmaker has come out and supported him. >> i'm not certain that is the case. i think a governor has endorsed him. there are three reasons why people endorse. one is interest, the other is geography, and the other is etiology. nations don't have friends, they have interests. when america looks strong then they want to associate with america, when america looks weak

they want to do what is in their best interests. that's the way politicians endorse, what is in their best interests. it has to do with geography. if you're from the west you'll be looking for endorsements from the northeast. newt is a national candidate as opposed to regional. you have etiology, ron paul will have support from his 6 or 7% of his faithful supporters. newt is seen as a full-time candidate and all of those things will plays out as it goes along. julie: he has six endorsements as opposed to mitt romney who has 44 endorsements. i guess the question is, is mitt a safer bet for congress? >> i repeat, you look for what is in your best interests. if you're from a region of the country where you can be seen as a balancing act that would be advantageous.

it has to do with where you focus your energies. if you focus on raising money as governor connolly did as well, and phil graham, they were very good at raising the money, but when it came to turning out the votes they didn't do so well. newt is committed to the issues. he's going to have to broaden from that. a couple of governors were head of the republican governor's association, they raised money nationwide for several years. newt, this is new for him, raging money will have to match his skill at the issues and we'll see what happens as time goes along. julie: this isn't newt's first controversial moment. since he's failed so far to land many lawmaker inch tkoerplt endorsements in his presidential run is that a sign that congress is maybe turning a cold shoulder to him or maybe about his most

recent comments on immigration, could that come back to haunt him? >> the way that you become a leader is you move the ball at the line of impact. if you stay in the weeds, and in the back then you'll have lots of friends but you won't make much impact. newt not only became a leader but he became the speaker. there are a handful of those in our nation's history who have done that. i think of ronald reagan, i considered him a friend and was a delegate before he got elected and served with him during his time in office. reagan not only had very, very strong supporters, but he had very, very vicious enemies. it comes from standing strong and cutting a clear path, that is always the case. julie: some of iowa's social conservative leaders are actually again going to be gathering for a secret meeting to discuss whether there might be another candidate that can take on mitt romney in their state. if they are worried about mitt, what does that say about newt? >> well, it appeared that he seems to be doing very well

across the board. as you see, i believe easy corresponding to his poll he was second in new hampshire and first in south carolina, and virtually double in iowa, so if that's the case, you can see that politically that's doing fine, now he'll have to focus a bit, i believe on the financial end as well if he's to take it across the finish line. julie: congressman bob mcquen thank you very much for talking to us. rick: developments this hour in the case of an american being held in the disappearance of a woman in aruba. when a judge has just ordered gary giordano to do after spending months behind bars in the investigation. and what you now wear at the airport could keep you grounded. airlines are now trying to crackdown on passengers wearing what they consider to be inappropriate clothing. we'll explain. and occupy wall street-style protests taking a toll on many city budgets. find out how much.

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finished out the song with arousing finish. [applause] julie: she says her nerves got the best of her and she apologized on her twitter page for messing up such an important song. she says she is not a robot, she is thankful to have her family and friends, she is moving on. we're playing it over and over again. rick: it sounds like the crowd at the stadium gave her the benefit of the doubt. julie: last year when christina aguillera completely made up the words, she almost seemed in denial that she screwed up so badly. i say when you flop, you say you flopped. i do it every day. rick: all right, could the fashion police be coming to an airport near you? several people, get this. have been picke kicked off of air planes because of how they

were dressed. passenger rights groups wants carriers to clearly state what is or is not appropriate travel wear. i hope that sweat pants are not included in this list here. >> reporter: i think sweat pants for the most part are okay, rick. in the wake of some pretty high profile incidents calls are coming in for air lines to publish clothing requirements. >> the airline should do this on their own so passengers can predict and appropriately dress. if there is a requirement to wear a certain type of clothing or not wear a certain type of clothing, tell us. >> it leaves passengers exposed to the judgments of the flight crew who may take offense at clothing that wouldn't be considered indecent off the blame but which leads to an argument and sometimes ends with the passenger getting kicked off. in the airlines view those passengers who refused to pull

up their saggy pangs became a risk. it's the airline's fault for not spelling out a dress code. most airlines can boot anyone who causes offense to passengers. they allowed this man to board last summer wearing little more than lingerie. a formal dress code they say could expose them to lawsuits and the head of virgin america doubts it would work any way. >> i think it's very difficult into force and you have to make game day calls based on what you see. >> airline operators say if passengers wear appropriate travel clothing and flight attendants are a bit more tolerant everyone can have a nice flight. that is not good enough for consumer rights advocates who want it in writing so there is no confusion about what flies and what doesn't. rick: nolan gentlema no

lingerie for men. julie: at least if you're going to wear lingerie cover it up -- rick: with a camisole. julie: or a security suit. the family of a missing florida mom hoping a newly released voice mail could help find her. hear what michelle parker said to her family in her last message before she disappeared. rick: why there is concern that the newest twilight movie is triggering a medical condition in some viewers, julie. julie: i haven't seen it, i don't think i plan to. a 4-year-old girl's trip to the supermarket with her dad turns into a nightmare because of one security guard's incredible actions. >> they said your daughter stole. she is banned from the store, we'll be pressing charges. she needs to sign this form stating that she understands she

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prosecutor's request to hold a maryland man. he has been in custody since the disappearance of his travel companion robin garner in august. julie: a supermarket security guard criticized for the way he handled an alleged shoplifting case. >> reporter: the parents say hire daughter was treated like a common criminal. the 4-year-old was with her father shopping at safeway in washington when her lytle eyes wandered to a package of dried fruit. the security guard eyeballed the girl eating a few pieces out of

the package, then puts the package back on the shelf. the security guard stopped them as they were leaving the store and told the girl's father she would face criminal charges for stealing a snack. savannah's mom says even though her daughter can't read or write, she was forced to sign a statement saying she would never be allowed inside a safeway ever again. >> they said your daughter stole, she is banned from the store and we are pressing charges. >> reporter: safeway said they are appalled by the guard's actions and dismissed him. the girl's family got a personal apology from the division president who tried to make it

right by offering to take her for a walk around the bakery to show that the store was not a scary place air it was learned she was afraid to go into a costco friday night. rick: cities across the country have spent $13 million in response to the occupy wall street protests. the money is going to police overtime, cleanup and sanitation. how much long letter it go on on the taxpayers' dime? alan colmes and mike gallagher. gentlemen, good to see you both. thanks for being here. you have got to love the irony. these are protesters demanding that the wealthiest pay more yet their protests are costing all of us a lot of money. >> the irony is strangling us with his occupy deal. first all you have got the

protesters holding up their expensive nice ipads taking pictures trying to nail a cop into doing something wrong. you have michael moore leaving his multi million dollar mansion along the michigan lakes to visit bill maher to hang out with the little people. every single republican candidate running for office next year just has to have a copy of the story you just read on the campaign trail and remind the voters that it was the democrats with the democratic party that side with this movement that has done nothing productive or positive except cause heartache, misery and age wish r wish for communities all over -- and anguish for america. >> i'm sorry it caused mike so much anguish. if the police cut down on pepper

spray they could save millions if they stop pepper spraying 4-year-olds and pause fel students minding their own business. when the tea party cost money that's okay. peaceful assembly is okay depending upon the price it costs the taxpayers. i don't remember mike gallagher upset about the amount of money it cost the taxpayers with the tea party. >> how much -- how tide the taxpayers cost money. it's only a matter of price, right? rick: we did a little bit of remuch and the numbers here in new york city alone when you look at police overtime for the fiscal year 2011, police overtime costs have run about

$549 million. only $3.4 million has been related to the occupy wall street protests. maybe these numbers aren't reflective. >> i wonder how many millions and you cited a report that said $14 million and counting, because these guys aren't going anywhere. rick: i lost him. mike -- alan, let me ask you this. this is a movement here, you made the point, it's the cost of living in a free society so we should all be grateful no mat wear you feel about these protesters and their movement that we live in a country where they are able to go out and protest. >> it's the price we pay because other people get to protest, too. rick: what is the goal? >> the goal is to have equity. occupy wall street has already accomplished the $5 card fees per month at bank of america went away.

the union vote in ohio where they preserved collective bargaining rights. i think there are some specific things that have happened. russell simmons putting forth a constitutional amendment to get private money out of campaigns. these are specific things being done that may benefit all of us in the united states. >> you see this move 789 as having legs and you think this will continue on? as you look and sort of one month, two months, months down the line, what do you see? >> it's hard to predict. this became a global movement within days of it starting in zucotti park in new york. we are seeing much more of a message. the message is we are the 99%. that pertains to most of us. it's a .1 per that is the upper, upper echelon. almost all of us are in the

99.9%. this is a movement of almost everybody in the united states. rick: we heard from mike gallagher, then we had a problem with his microphone. thanks for sticking around. julie: some protesters in one city coming under fire after new voicemail recordings reveal questionable practices. wait until you hear who they are turning to for help. rick: video an attempted robbie inside a jewelry store when an armed man suddenly grabs a woman. wait until you see what happens after this. julie: the family of this missing florida mom releasing the last known voicemail recording of michelle parker before she disappeared. what can be heard on the audio and why the family hopes it will help find her. >> the last four, five days i have been sleeping good. my tears are gone.

i'm stronger. and i'm fighting.

julie: the familiar live a missing mother in florida released her last voicemail. she made the call to her father one day before she disappeared. >> reporter: among the turkey and pumpkin pie, brad parker says there is something missing this year and it's breaking his heart. >> i wish she was here. i'm going to save this forever. brad taped a voicemail his daughter left. >> hi, dad, it's michelle. i know you are at work. call me when you have lunch or at the end of your day, i love you, talk to you soon, good-bye. >> i are talked to her at least

a half-hour. and we planned supper. >> reporter: it hasn't been easy for this father as he wonders where his 33-year-old daughter is. >> i almost put myself in the hospital. i got my composure together. my tears are gone, i'm stronger and i'm fighting. >> admits he fights with officers because his darling daughter hasn't been found. >>'s uncalled for. >> the police are doing the best they can. they can't tell you everything. but all the fathers who have daughters. no matter how old they get, that's their little girl. >> reporter: he's encouraged ... >> we had a meeting. it gives him hope, but brad turns to a higher power for strengths. >> just hope and pray.

the man upstairs is going to bring her back. >> until that happens brad will continue to his to the last words michelle left for him. julie: joining me with more on this disturbing case. rob wheeler, a fox news contributor. you don't have to be a parent to get chills and imagine the heartbreak this father has experienced knowing he's going to hold on to that voicemail for the rest of his life, not knowing if he will ever see his daughter again. police are hoping that voice mail and last video of her about help with the investigation. >> there are a couple ways this voicemail can assist. maybe just by hearing her voice, by hearing michelle's voice, it will trigger someone hearing her or seeing her and that could

lead to another lead the police can follow up on. the other reason this is important for us as investigators is because we get an idea of her mindset right around this time period in which this recording was made which was only a day before she actually went missing. so it sound to me as an investigator that she sounded relatively normal, she didn't sound upset. so we can develop a profile of the victim in this case. we are only calling her a victim because she is missing. hopefully she is still alive. julie: you talk about dale smith, you feel strongly about the fact that he needs to submit to a polygraph test. sometimes police will do that and they won't inform the public they have done so. what we do know is he's not a suspect and he, the last person who saw the mother of his 3-year-old twins alive. do they talk to him to figure out where he was the day before

she disappeared? she sound calm in that voicemail in was clear nothing wrong at the time. where was he in the hours afterwards. >> that's the main question that the police and investigators are trying to figure out. this guy has to give an account, a precise account. every minute, every second between the time that this woman went missing which was the time she dropped the kids off at his house. he was the last person to see this woman and the time in which her vehicle was found. he has to give an account for that. as far as the polygraph is concerned. i'm not sure if the cops have given him a polygraph. at least with the polygraph we can develop a profile with him as well. julie: maybe they have given him a polygraph and we are talking about this for nothing, but at this point we don't know that. as far as counting every second from the point she went missing

and we talk about she went missing right after she dropped her kid off at his house. there is surveillance video, at 3:18 in the afternoon the video shows parker's black hummer coming and going from the condo. on it you can see a large sticker which advertises parker's tanning business. here is the part that's perplexing. that's a huge sticker. nearly an hour and a half later parker's hummer is seen and that circumstance ahears to have been removed. >> the question is why was that sticker removed. that's what the investigators are trying to figure out. i suspect that there was some kind of a discussion between dale smith and this woman michelle and for some reason that circumstance was removed. one more freel quick thing.

the brother of michelle made a statement i thought was interesting. he said when he saw pictures of this vehicle, the vehicle looked immaculate as if it had been recently cleaned. now the question is did something happen in that vehicle and someone cleaned it up before they abandoned it. >> there was another black hummer seen in that video and it belonged to a neighbor. it doesn't look good. thanks for joining us to talk about this. rick: terrifying moments caught on video when an armed man hold a assistant at knife point. then the store's owner tries to come to the rescue. julie: some occupy protesters in one city coming under fire after voicemail recordings reveal questionable practices. wait until you hear who they are turning to for help. >> i personally feel bad that we have you guys out there.

and there seems to be no purpose of it other than to show that indianapolis has physical october paiption. you know. because you are pretty much our billboard for occupying indianapolis. for a hot dog cart. my mother said, "well, maybe we ought to buy this hot dog cart and set it up someplace." so my parents went to bank of america.

they met with the branch manager and they said, "look, we've got this little hot dog cart, and it's on a really good corner. let's see if we can buy the property." and the branch manager said, "all right, i will take a chance with the two of you." and we've been loyal to bank of america for the last 71 years.

rick: incredible video an attempted robbery. the suspect grabs an employee and puts a knife to her throat. but the store's owner fights back, freeing the woman. the attacker keeps jabbing him with a knife. it looks like the suspect is going to leave. but instead he lungs at him a second time, that's when the

employee hand her boss a broomstick. finally drives him back out the door. police are still searching for that suspect. julie: protesters are recruiting homeless people to maintain a presence in occupy protests. the we have a recording that shows the role the homeless play in their movement. >> reporter: with numbers dwindling and winter approaching the occupy movement appears to be adopting a process of protest by proxy. the homeless are encouraged to maintain a presence. do you sleep outside or is there a tent? >> there is a van we sleep in if we need sleep, but most of us stay out all night.

>> reporter: fox news has a. >> of a web seminar from november 9. >> i feel bad and i personally feel bad that you have you guys out there. and there seems to be no purpose other than to show that indianapolis has a physical occupation. sustaining numbers will be a challenge as the weeks roll on. the number of demonstrators has dwindled down to 3. >> a lot of people can't stay. i get down there and stay as long as i can. i stayed one night late. i have kids at home. >> reporter: but the

demonstrators we saw said they can maintain a presence through the winter and hope to make a mark on one of the most widely viewed american institutions. >> we should occupy the steps of lucas oil stadium on super bowl night. >> we would be arrested before the tent hit the ground. >> reporter: they promise to increase their numbers once springtime brings better weather. rick: the lack of a super committee debt deal could trigger automatic cuts and why this could cause big problems in your state. julie: we are awaiting word on the three american students arrested in egypt. rick: why there is new concern the latest "twilight" movie is triggering a dangerous medical

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rick: we start with a fox news alert and the fallout from the super committee could be felt sooner than you think. julie: 12 lawmakers couldn't seem to come up with more than a trillion dollars in cuts over the next decade, triggering automatic cuts starting in 2013. but state governments are already stressed to the hilt, 46 states face short falls and state legislatures have to balance their budgets. chief washington correspondent james rosen is live at the white house with this story as our lead this morning. >> reporter: this pain and suffering at the state level will be felt starting early next year and it could conceivably impact president obama's

reelection efforts. these 12 members of the committee knew if they couldn't come to terms on the $1.2 trillion in cuts, cuts in that amount would happen immediately split between the pentagon and domestic spending. lawmakers in the state legislatures must approve their budgets by next spring. as the "post" pointed out those state budgets will overlap with the 2013 budget the super committee was eyeing. already the tremors are being felt in richmond, virginia, and a swing state with the defense industry. the pentagon spending of roughly $600 billion. that will likely translate into accelerated layoffs and budget strains in states that president obama carried easily in 2008.

this is money that often goes to states in the form block grants and other aid. >> those are the kind of funds that go into education program. food programs. the state level assistance to the unemployed and those needing training. these are big dollars. we are talking about $50 billion in defense cuts. $35 billion in non-defense cuts and they will have a substantial impact immediately on the states. >> reporter: 30% of the state of maryland's budget is dough pendant on federal spending. that is a state president obama carried by 25 points three years ago. rick: moving overseas into new fears of mass demonstrations and growing violence in egypt. tens of thousands of protesters

packed tahrir square. protesters rejecting the military's attempt to install the new prime minister. >> reporter: base on the live pictures we are seeing from tahrir square, that hasn't stopped tens of thousands of protesters from continuing to stream in and things are starting to heat up. we are seeing pro army protesters also taking to the streets and also in addition the anti-government protesters we have been watching are upset because they want the full transfer of power from the military to civilian rule. they are calling this last chance friday. they want a million people to come out and protest. elections are being held next monday, they are asking for no political banners. they want to make a statement. the ruling military council appointed a new prime minister, kamal el-ganzouri. he held a press conference saying the military gave him

more authority than any prime minister before. the protesters see him and a mubarak growny and they don't want him in. they are going to try to prevent him from coming in. the fact that we are seeing the pro army folks and the anti-government protesters tonight, it's the same volatile combination we saw in the leadup to the revolution in february when the massive clashes turned violent because both sides have largely equal numbers of people coming out. with man days elections we are hearing they decided to extend it to monday and tuesday. clearly they are expecting some problems. rick: rena, thanks. julie: tension is rising as we await word on three american students arrested in egypt. a court ordered the student released, but their parents are still waiting for confirmation. the u.s. embassy says the young

men are being processed. there were arrested for allegedly throwing molotov cocktails during a protest. rick: the united nations is calling on syria to respond to reports of government forces torturing children. they say they have received consistent substantiated reports of abuse. and today more reports of syrian forces killing at least four demonstrators. julie: let the shopping begin. shoppers out in full force around the country. they got started early this morning or maybe even last night. most people seem to be enjoying it. >> we are good. >> it's cold, it's rain. it's all type of things. but you know what? when it comes to it it's worth it. the economy is rough right now.

people walked by and thought we were nuts. >> reporter: what do you say? >> we are. julie: at least she has a good sense of humor about it. how is it look in rockaway *. >> reporter: there seem to be a lot of krailsy folks here. people who acknowledge it's a little crazy to -- wake up at 3:30 in the morning. people say they don't have to get here in the middle of the night to enjoy the sales. macy's opened at midnight. the rest of the mall opened at 5:00 a.m. so far the reaction from analysts are it's been better of a holiday season than last year. ibm is saying an 18% bump so far

compared to last year. let's look at a couple of the results. last we are there were $45 billion in sales. the year before that was up from 41.2 billion. it went flat in 2008. and it's a fairly big bump. as for who is going shopping? the national retail association. now we are up to a third of the folks saying they plan on coming out on the black friday weekend. one of the benefits about this. every so often i see my wife walking by with one of the bags. so far my share of that has been a sweater and socks. julie: are those your christmas presents you lucky dog. >> reporter: i think so. julie: thank you very much. i'm second tbetion my idea. by the way.

go to a mall this afternoon. i changed my mind. rick: you don't have to go today. julie: these reporters are great. they filled me with a lot of info. rick: gunshots fired at a mall packed with shoppers at 2:00 in the morning. fayetteville, north carolina is the spot just as the bargain hunting was underway. >> it's scary because i have young children. my niece was with me. so what if one of those bullet hit her. and it's like they didn't think about the other people that were here. rick: police say sit started with a fight outside the mall. they believe the intended target range inside and was -- mall was not evacuated. no injuries were reported. police are looking for two suspects. julie: retailers bracing for black friday protests.

but it seems like the stores are occupied bishoppers. the group is boy coting those they feel are responsible. >> if you need to shop, shop with a conscience. we feel people should be empowered to do autonomous actions. >> until people change their behavior and send a different message to the system about what their values are, the system will start to respond. >> there is not going to be much of an occupy black friday. >> we leave our families to work every day. they are not writing my check so i'm here. julie: the pock pie black friday web site says it its not an attempt to punish small businesses or hard working people. rick: the white house urging

military rulers to hand over power to a civilian government as soon as possible in egypt. julie: you know all about the struggling housing market at home. but in one part of the country arevival. we'll tell you where it could happen to you. rick: a potential health risk in watching the latest movie two i lite. this is the latest movie in the "twilight" series. we'll tell you why you could have health problems like that actress there. ♪

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lawsuit. he has reportedly settled a civil lawsuit it accused him of swinlding an elderly widows neighbor out of hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and property. he and the woman lived in the same fort lauderdale building. the confidential settlement was reached with the widow's family. she died last year at age of 84. rick: back to egypt. they are calling its last chance egypt. they are promising today will be the biggest week of protests yet. the demonstrators wants an end to military rule and today the white house throwing its support behind egypt's protest movement. lieutenant colonel ralph peters is a her to of the book "lines of fire." shouldn't we have seen this coming? >> certainly. and many of us did. what we saw last winter was the egyptian revolution 1.0.

this is 2.0 and there will be other iterations. but what happened was this. the demonstrators. the peace activists, really thought they won. they had no experience with this. but what the military regime -- they were willing to softly nudge mubarak aside but not give up power. they said there will be actions. they put conditions on and delays. but basically nothing has changed. tell strayer toes see that and now they want change. they want what they were promised. rick: the white house coming out back the protesters. does this make a difference at all? >> on the margins. certainly it's right thing for us to do. these people protests have not been anti-american. very little hostility toirsds. they are about local domestic issues. you want to be on the right side

of history. the military hunta is going, whether it goes this month or next month or next year, it's going, and you want to be on the side of the people. that doesn't mean everything will be rose write in egypt. it won't. it will be complicated and messy and a will the we won't like. you have to be on the right side of history. rick: the military installing this former mubarak lieutenant as the prime minister, what does that signal to you. >> the military thought they could get away with this because this guy is not at all bad. he was fire in the late 1990s for cracking down too hard on corruption. but the tell strayer toes don't want any part of the old mubarak regime. they want it all gone. they don't want leaders in their late 70s and early as it. they want fresh blood. and hopefully it won't be literal blood. i was thinking about this driving into the studio. there is a great line.

this is what the demonstrators are saying. stand not upon the order of your going, but go. rick: meantime the muslim brotherhood waiting in the wings. do they gain power as all of this plays out? >> they will have a flurlity -- they will have a plurality in parliament. why are they going to have it? because the mubarak regime made a small number of egyptians rich and the other 80 million lived in poverty. the muslim brotherhood provided local services. they were the muslim salvation army down in the hood. of course, they are going to be represented. but we have to remember a couple things. the military in egypt isn't just a military. it's a huge business enterprise vast and corrupt. the generals are trying to hang onto the money as well as the

power. the muslim brotherhood isn't al qaeda. it's a complex group. others are more moderate. the muslim brotherhood is splintering, and then there are the he cue lars. but the bottom line is this. democracy isn't just for rich white people. george w. bush said wanted democracy in the middle east. we won't like every result. but you have got to remember, it's their country. there is not a lot we can do. we are not going to encourage the egyptian military to slaughter their own people. we need to look -- when you are faced with a situation like this you don't wine and moan and complain, you figure out how to take a advantage of it and position yourself as well as you can. and i think the administration of which i have been very critical is doing the right thing by backing the freedom demonstrators. rick: the bikes called "lines of fire." ralph peters, thank you very

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rick: hot dry conditions and high wind make it difficult for crews battling brushfires raging through western australia. the flames destroying 37 homes,

scorching 8,000 square miles. the body of alleged mafia boss was removed from a river in montreal, canada puvment s. authorities believe he was once the leader leader of a crime family. worries about europe's debt crisis. u.s. stocks eyeing a 7th straight session of losses. on a percentage basis the dow and s & p posting their worst thanksgiving week since the great depression. julie: the nation's housing market has been on life support after collapsing over the last several years. but in phoenix, arizona, where it was really bad. a condo and highrise project have been revised. so what is behind the housing

jump start in the valley of the sun? >> reporter: we know most of the nation is waiting for the housing market to hit the bottom. but in phoenix, arizona, things are looking up, especially if you are enjoying the view from a series of highrise luxury condos and lot ofs. these high-end digs were built just as the housing market was stalling out. they were very pricey and hardly anyone was buying or rejts. new developers came in to rescue the project and gave them a new lease on life selling them for nearly half the price. in one case a british development firm came in and sold all 12 condos in a building that was empty just a few years ago. >> this is one of the buildings that was left when the market collapsed. it was in foreclosure. unlike any of the other

buildings in that state this had a superb location. >> reporter: it's not just the price. location is half the draw. the projects were built in downtown phoenix and scottsdale with the goal of providing a revitalizes urban environment in scene upscale neighborhood. that proved to be the ticket for baby boomers, empty nesters and swinging singles. >> nationally the between is toward urban living. people are raised their kids or they have taken part in the suburban lifestyle and they are looking for more of a community. >> reporter: what's happening in phoenix is a bit of an anomaly. the rest of the country is still struggling, sales are down. a lot of people are still fighting foreclosure southern trying to stay in their homes. so they are hoping for a better 2012 across the country.

back to you. rick: the super committee's failure to make budget cuts may hit your wallets just in time for the holidays. julie: 150 million bargain hunters are expected out there this weekend. but if they don't show up sit could affect your bottom line. >> if do it the right way you get in and out. it's hard when you didn't know and you are all over the place.

julie: funding cuts coming sooner than you might think. not necessarily on the federal level, but possibly in your state. the congressional super committee failed to trim more than a trillion dollars. but state legislatures are required to balance hair budget so governors are trimming away. lars, by failing to reach an agreement, the super committee jeopardizes the federal unemployment benefits of 2 million workers. the committee is taking money out of the unemployed wallets. >> they are taking money that doesn't exist. many of us have thought that unemployment benefits have gone on too long.

two years, five years? do we do it indefinitely? the federal government is running on dollars, 42 cents of which are borrowed. if the states have to take cuts because the federal government can no longer hand out checks to them that are borrowed money it's a healthy thing for the states to do. 49 of the 50 states have constitutions that require them to have a balanced budget. i feel for the people who are unemployed. we can't have unemployment payment go on indefinitely. julie: leslie, what do you say about that? >> you are making black friday bleark. what do we tell the kids about their school lunches. what do we tell people infected with hiv about their treatment? it goes further than that. i know this is very exciting, it's it lating to you as a republican to have more cuts.

but in all seriousness, this is really affecting people negatively and i predicted this. i predicted there would be no deal and i predicted this would effect people on a state level as well. and the states are saying that. julie: the real failure is not the lack of a deficit cutting agreement but the failure reauthorizize the federal unemployment insurance program that expires december 31. how much will the economy suffer if they don't figure this out and the super committee fails to come up with ways to trim the country's deficit? how does the economy suffer in 2012. >> it benefits at some point when you bring the federal government to the realization that you can't live on borrowed money forever. it's being you a ported on a credit card. once we force governments to make pry port choices. what are the things you have to

have and what are the thing that are just nice to have. we can't borrow in the obama administration we could borrow until the country is $20 trillion in debt. and where a third of the federal budget goes to pay the interest. it's smart for we come to a realization that these problems have to be fixed now. the sooner you do it the less impact there will be. you do this two years from now after another couple trillion dollars in debt we'll be in real trouble. they got to at least extend as if they are going to by the december 31. it will cost $200 billion this time around. where do you think the cuts should go then? the payroll tax cuts will be eliminated. the unemployment insurance as well. and those extensions. where do you make the cuts, then? >> i know it's going to be crazy. maybe lars would agree with me on this. how about their own salary?

$175,000. >> i agree. >> we agree on something. here is the problem. i hear you and i would agree that unemployment can't go upon forever. but you can't say look and not just this administration. former administration also borrowed from china and other countries. you can't say because we have to pay our debts back to the chinese and get our house in order, sorry you can't feed your kids or pay your mortgage or no job for to you find. you can't just say cut, cut, cut and not provide anything to get the american people through. that's what i feel the people on on the right are saying. >> through what? another year? another two years? five years? we are told this could go on for a long time. if 99 weeks of unemployment is not enough, is it 299 weeks? how long will you let that go

on? julie: he said repeatedly and he said it again during this address on thanksgiving that this is not going to be fixed overnight. he's hoping americans just hang on. well, americans are hanging on and all those millions of people unemployed are hanging onto those unemployment checks. what future do they have? >> they have to find the jobs. >> why aren't your rich buddies providing the jobs? >> i have got to tell you something. there are 15 million unemployed americans. there are 3 million jobs available as we speak right now. but not necessarily the kind of jobs you want. but they are jobs that will get you through. and what all the economists have agreed on i think is the longer you let unemployment run, the longer people will say i'm making more on unemployment than i would by going out and taking a wrapy -- taking a crappy job i

don't want. the sooner you say there has to be a limit, the sooner people will get off the catch couch toe whatever job they have to to feet their family. i'll give saw cut. >> we agreed twice about getting off the couch. was that a tiny concession that the unemployment rate is not the president's fault? >> not at all. not at all. let me tell you something. a lot of the unemployment problem is the president's fault. number one, he created uncertainty in the economy. that's not healthy for creating jobs. number two, obama-care which is killing jobs, we should allow other reforms. then the epa, some of those regulations are killing jobs right now for no good purpose. those three things, change those three things and give the economy some certainty and jobs will come.

>> i'm still waiting for the rich people to provide them. >> leslie, the class warfare is not dignified. the fact is -- >> this doing what you said. you said give the rich guys tax breaks and they will provide americans with jobs. it's been going on for 12 years. where are the jobs? >> the president acts as though a rich guy should go south and hire people to do thing that don't earn a profit. if you do that you turn rich guys into poor guys. but if a rich guise allowed to start a business where you make a product or service using employees, then siment at a profit, then you will have more jobs created and the rich guys will get richer. i know that grind on you, but it's a good thing. >> they are getting richer with their factories in china and india and mexico.

>> you know why they are in china and india? i can tell you why. regulations, taxes. julie: i think we are also talking about a lot of so called rich that the government seems to think if you make over a certain dollar amount you are considered rich when around small business owner and you are not rich. but if you are taxed more it makes it difficult to cover your costs and hire more. maybe that's why people need those unemployment checks. it's a checks and balance thing. >> if you take the president's definition of rich, a cop in new york city and a teacher in new york city married to each other are considered rich by the president because chair combined knock will be rights at that rich level that the millionaire barack obama defines as rich. julie: thank you very much for coming on. enjoyed your fair and balanced debate. thank you. rick: black friday is

consistently the busiest shopping day of the year. but it might take more than one black friday to get retailers out of the red. if today is a bust. what does that say about our economic future. matt mccall is joining us live. so far, what are we seeing? we had reporters out at various shopping malls who are telling us that the numbers looked good early on. >> everything i have seen looks good as well. one that i thought was interesting. yesterday for thanksgiving day online sales were up 39% over last year. so that's a good indication people are pending money, taking advantage of the big deals. the big question that looms for me is are we going to front run everything. is everybody going to take these deals, opening up at hid night last knight thin -- opening up at midnight, then fall off the face of the earth and stop spending money?

rick: what is the ripple effect? we had a reporter earlier in the show who showed us the numbers from 2005 to the present where those numbers keep creeping up. you can see even during at the time of the great recession in 2008 and 2009, the numbers still pretty steady comparatively up from years before. when these numbers are big on black friday, what does it mean for the rest of december leading up to christmas? >> it can go both ways. before the big recession there was a strong indicator that the rest of the holiday season would do very well over the prior year. the last couple years people have become savers. they are not spernlding like drunken sailors. they love black friday and love the deals. and the retailers know that. so that's why everything has been focusing on this holiday black friday weekend some gets everything off the shelf.

it could simply fall off as consumers liewpped and buy everything for the holiday in a matter of 48 hours, then what do the retailers do. what we'll notice as we see these discounts continue, that tells you retailers are not getting rid of inventory, that they are struggling. i believe that we are going to have a good holiday season because the numbers the last two months have shown americans are starting to see more. people love to spend money. we have low confidence. i think people will open up their wallets. rick: we know that low consumer confidence played a major role at the beginning of the recession. if we are looking to kickstart things with the economy, how much can a boost in consume are confidence help that out? >> i think the only way to boost our economy is consumer confidence. we think things are going to be okay going forward with the

government, with the economy. we'll get out there and spend. americans love to spend any dollar they have in their pocket. a big reason i don't carry cash. i'm going to spend money if i have it. rick: good to talk to you, matt. thanks very much. julie: the latest movie in the "twilight" series giving some viewers seizures. is it really possible? dr. marc siegel on the fox news medical a-team is going to tell us why. mine was earned over the south pacific in 1943. vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. autonsurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve

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crowd got crazy. the little boy was being stram trampled. so he put the game his boy was holding into his waistband. that's when a policeman grabbed him and slammed him down to the ground. >> you would have not there was a cure for canner? this box. grabbed the guy, body fan face planted him right into the ground. just face shatters on the concrete. it's a hard concrete floor at walmart. you see this little boy wailing, grandpa, and he's crying his eyes out. rick: a woman in the crowd ended up getting punched as well. police say they are investigating. julie: the latest movie in the popular "twilight" movie is

reportedly causing seizures. the trigger appears to be an intense scene that contains flashts of red, black and white. a similar episode was reported after the pokemon movie. should we be afraid to go into the movie "twilight"? is it the graphic nature of the scene or the lights? >> it many the birthing scene. but i don't think it' the birth. i think it' the lights. we say the with "avatar." it's about the black and red flashing lights during the birthing scene, red lights specifically are what cause this. it isn't caused by the lights. it's if you have an underlining tendency to have a seizure disorder it can be triggered by these lights and you may not know it. if you have a family history of

seizure disorder you should be checked. you may not not until it happens to you. this is called photo sensitive epilepsy and it's more common than you might think. julie: it's more common in younger people, correct? >> reporter: younger people and girls much more than boys. and it can be problematic. you may feel lining something isn't right. if you feel that, you are getting confused, you are not feeling right, you have got to back off. you have got to leave the theater. it has to do with how close you are to the screen, how bright the screens. 5-30 flashes per second. the brighter it is the more likely tour have it. and all the blood in "twilight." all that red. julie: i heard of strobe lights being dangerous for newborns and babies. but the lighting -- the fast

lighting -- what is it in that that triggers these things if you have an underlying condition? >> reporter: the whole thing where you are shake, but the temporal lobe of the brain is sensitive to light. if only 100,000 people may have this, it's closer to a million if you studied them would show some kind of response. you may not have a full seizure but you may not feel right and not be too healthy in response to this. i don't know about the "twilight" film. julie: watch it in a lit room instead of the dark. >> reporter: in a lit room, far the screen. a smaller screen. if you have a full-blown seizure disorder we have a drug that can help this. julie: thank you very much for

coming in. >> reporter: i'm waiting to seat movie. julie: rick, how about yourself? rick: i don't know. i will get back to you. julie: you don't have time, you have four kids. rick: it's a move some say would cut traffic, reduce emissions, but would decreasing the wait limit for trucks on our highways put your safety at risk that debate next. [ mujahid ] there was a little bit of trepidation, not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪

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rick: truckers struggling to make a living in this economy. now they are lobbying congress to allow them to haul more

cargo. but some say that will make our highways more dangerous. >> reporter: some argue heavier trucks will be more dangerous and others point out here weight limits may eliminate the need for a higher number of trucks on the road and reduce emissions and file costs. a group representing 100 major shippers is urging congress to increase weight limit saying it will make their business more efficient in a competitive global economy. but some state highway officials are worried about the impact of heavier trucks on their roads and budgets. >> there will be more wear and tear on our roads. so we have to balance that with the economic future as well. >> reporter: the legislation would require heavier trucks to have six axles. the idea is to distribute the

added weight over an additional axle so the truck's wheels apply no more pressure at any given point to the highway. but big commercial fleets and independent truckers have different takes on the financial burden of the required upgrades and retrofits. >> the manufacturer will be able to offset the cost of new equipment. the productivity. the truck more doesn't do any manufacturing will be faced with the cost but all the benefit will go to his customer. >> reporter: the legislation would give each individual state the opportunity to opt in or out of the higher weight limits. so it's possible we'll see a patchwork of weight limits throughout the country. julie: the late west from egypt. tens of thousands gathering in the require square, furious off

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>> folks in kansas city doing a double take on calling police to report a kangaroo on the loose. it was noah. >> he is like a baby. all he got out. my brother was giving him, filling up his pool of water. >> it was actually a wallabee. >> now he is headed to the kansas city zoo while officials decide whether his owners can keep him. they do not allow residents to own exotic animals. he doesn't punch. that is promising. he likes to