and that's how fox reports on this sunday, november 27th, 2011. hope you had a fantastic holiday weekend, i'm harris falkner, thanks for watching, have a terrific week. huckabee starts now. ♪ >> tonight on huckabee. >> you've just lost the love of your life. >> before her husband died of cancer they want today make sure their boys supported their mother. >> i know your mom's value and if she remarries, she's going to remarry somebody that i approve of. his dying wife has a similar message for him. >> see was really in her last hours trying to connect us. >> brought together through grief, they discovered a whole new love. >> and. >> to find something you can be grateful for. >> the pos tar now turning to faith during difficult times. plus, rock and roll hall-of-famer, deon with a special performance. ♪ you know, we walking up to heaven's child don't let

nobody turn you round ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applaus [applause] >> thank you, thank you very much everybody. and so after the recent cbs g.o.p. candidate debate a lot of frustration spilled out and understandably so. the network only aired the first hour of the debate and directed people to finish watching on a website that didn't work. and at times, the moderator seemed as if he wanted to debate the candidates instead of allowing them to debate the issues and as often is the case, some candidates got horribly short changed with virtually no real time to answer questions and might as well have slipped out for a sandwich. ron paul was given only 89 seconds in the entire debate to answer questions. and in the words of another politician from arkansas, i feel their pain. and four years ago, i get

disgusted by a format that was often like a game show than an honest and serious debate about some important issues of being president and leading the country. and i remember the lift your hand stuff from chris mathews and getting religious questions about the origins of the earth that didn't have one thing to do with being commander-in-chief and equally frustrating when a moderator would pend three or four minutes asking a question and demand that i answer it in 30 seconds or less. i sometimes wondered if the so-called debate was about the candidates or the media stars who posed the questions. these events are sometimes staged for entertainment and ratings, but they're life and death to the campaigns of people who have risked everything to run for president. and while i realized how easy it is to offer armchair critique of the candidates, their answers and even what they wear is often lost to the depth of the issues. and some of the debate moderators ballet tonightly create an otts fear who ne

favor not only about the amount of time allocated, but who gets the first questions. if we're going to treat them like game shoes or reality shows, let's let everyone audition like american idol and people can call in and vote. in the meantime, i'd love to see less of a show and more of a real conversation with men and women who might end up as leader of the free world. it might not be as entertaining as buzzers and bells and show of hand and the audience booing and cheering, but given that our country is in a world of hurt and could use some real leadership now i'm not as sure there's as much to cheer about as there is to think about. [applause] >> you can tell me what's on your mind. sound off at mike huckabee.com on click on the fox news feedback section and found off at my facebook page and follow me at twitter, links to all of

that at mike huckabee.com. habitat for humanity has been providing families in need with new homes for the past 35 years. this year the nonprofit organization has been helping the victims of the earthquake that devastated haiti nearly just last year. the 7.0 magnitude quake damaged nearly 200,000 homes in the country. completely destroying over 100,000 of them. my wife janet was on the international board of habitat for humanity for years and traveled the world and throughout america building houses. a few weeks ago see joined country superstars garth brooks and trisha yearwood as well as former president jamie carter and to help. >> they'll get they completed this week and they know we're doing what we said we were going to do. we hear you're going to get houses, you're going to get aid and this and that and it never happens so you have to

build the trust of the people. >> mike: janet and habitat for humanity ceo, join me here. janet i he see you didn't wear the hat today for the show i did not wear my hat, but the hat was very much needed in that heat and sun. >> let's talk about habitat. a lot of people know of it and i think that jimmy carter brought a lot of attention to it. but habitat is much older i guess than jimmy carter's involvement. it really is about bringing people into helping others have decent affordable housing. >> very much so, thanks, mike. habitat put it into action by bringing people together to bring homes communities and hope and bring that 5,000 times around the world and core has made habitat goes to what the most common misperception that we give away houses and we talk about a handout versus an onnedout, and the families put hours of

sweat equity with the volunteers. >> mike: they have to work on the home themselves. >> yes, they do and pay back the affordable mortgage and they stay in the community and helps other families with their dream of a home. >> it's not a give away, turn over the keys and hope you enjoy it, whether he they take care of it or not. they have to take care of it because they're paying on it. >> they do. by the time they close on their loan, they've put in hundreds of hours of sweat equity and gone through financial training as well as home management training so they're fully prepared and that's why even in this terrible housing crisis, habitat owners who could never qualify for a regular mortgage foreclose at less than 2% even in markets where rates were higher. >> mike: maybe habitat could take over freddie mac and fannie mae. janet, live with you, and kind of know about your involvement with habitat.

i guess i'd better. >> i appreciate that. >> mike: thank you. i want to though, you tell the audience, why did you get involved in habitat. what was it about this ministry and i use that term purposefully, about this ministry that's attractive to you and fulfilling to you. >> i think in another life, i might have been a contractor. >> had another life. >> i'm not sure. >> mike: another husband. >> i do know you're the only one, 37 1/2 years, i'm very proud of that. [applaus [applaus [applause]. but i started nearly 15 years ago at jimmy carter work project in however, texas and i would have taken that experience i would never have gone back, it was a horrible experience with the weather and the heat, but i loved it, annal woo do it again tomorrow, and it's something that one lady put in perspective for me when we gave her the keys to the house she said you have raised my "titanic" and when you look at

that, you think of how many "titanic"s 500,000 at that we have lifted off of people's shoulders and given them the opportunity to live in safe and secure housing. i would just have to ask over this next period of thanksgiving and christmas, how many "titanic"s can we raise and when i think about it like that, it really is a ministry to me and makes it more worthwhile. >> mike: jonathan the recent trip that you guys did to haiti. the carters were involved. even though they're in their 80's, they go out and work every day. they don't just go for the photo op and garth brooks and trisha yearwood one thing reported back that they got out there and worked and served food and it was, you know, i think in both cases, there's wonderful examples of leadership. the 6th time i've spent a week with the carters building somewhere in the world and they work unbelievably hard and 28 years where they come out and build for a week for a few years and the first time i built with garth and trisha

and not what you expect from superstars, they stayed to help clean up the work center. and i would say, i was inseptember to build and janet can do the sheet rock and stuff. is there a role for people who are utterly incapable of building a house with habitat? >> there's all sorts of roles. another misperception it to come through construction. we desperately need people who can mentor our families and help raise funds and help with the complexity of running and advocating for good housing in the community. lots of ways to get involved. >> well, great to have you both here and i think very appropriately on thanksgiving weekend when a lot of people are taking for granted that they have a home, there are many people across the world that are sleeping either under the stars, not to camp out, but because they don't have anything else and habitat

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>> childhood friend that died >> and they died of cancer weeks apart and met at one of the funerals and shared a common grief and turned to each other for support and fell in love all over again. they're remarkable and heart warming story told in the new book called "the color of rain" please welcome michael and gina spain. so glad to have you with us. [applause] >> your husband, he knew he was sick and started making some videos for your kids. >> he did, yeah. >> he knew he was not going to make it, didn't he. >> well, that's true. he was diagnosed with cancer in 2002 and he formed an outline and said i want to think all the things i want to it will my boys if i'm not here and the cancer journey was a three-year journey and he had a hard time pushing that record button for a while and near the end of his life he decided it's time to do this and he did. >> we want to show one of them. telling his boys about faith.

listen. >> you pray for no other thing, pray that god will tell you what he wants you to do and that you'll hear his voice. and you'll be surprised that that will happen time and time again. he will-- you'll say, god what do you want me to do about this thing at school you want me to do this or that and then you listen, you're quiet and answer will come to you and it will come to you from god. the trick is then, once you hear it, is to do what he tells you to do, sometimes it's not going to be what you want. >> mike: when you watch these now, is it still tough for you to watch this. >> yeah, i've got to tell me, every time i see it and hearing his voice is what startles me, the visual not as much, but hearing him and the things that he says and the way that he, he wants-- it's so impossible to teach your children everything you want today teach them in a dvd set.

it's parenting not meant to be done that way and here he is just trying it say all the things that he wants them to know about their faith, about respect, about how to live, how to balance your work and your life, and how to respect women and all of those things and it was, you know, it's never enough, but it was, it's been a wonderful gift to have those. >> mike: and your husband matt passed away on christmas day. >> yes. >> mike: tell me about that day. >> it was interesting because he got up that morning, now, granted he was very fragile and frail and was on oxygen at this point, but he got out of bed and he went downstairs with our boys and he sat on the couch quietly and watched them open their gifts. and even called them over and said a prayer with them. and so, he had this little time with them that day and he went back upstairs and he laid down and it wouldn't until later that evening when everything kind of took a turn and i knew that, this was going to be it. >> mike: we have a video from that christmas, this is matt

on christmas day. >> and lord we thank you very, very much for the gifts this year and i ask you to be with us until next year and even better, boys and ask you even more-- >> that was christmas day. >> uh-huh. >> mike: and he died that day. >> he did, he died about probably about 12 hours after that was taken. >> mike: you know, it's tough for me to watch that. i don't know how you do it. >> yes. >> mike: that was powerful story. >> it's a little shocking actually i haven't seen that one in a while. >> mike: michael, shortly, after matt passed away, then your wife kathy was diagnosed with a brain tumor. >> she was, and you have to remember that matt and kathy knew each other from childhood they grew up together. >> you guys didn't know each other, but matt and kathy new each other. >> i didn't have the pleasure

of meeting matt. but she grew up in michigan and when he passed away she of course attended his funeral and three weeks after the funeral that she developed a headache and it got worse, and eventually we took her into the e.r. not knowing what else to do about a headache. and it was there they diagnosed her with inoperable brain cancer and we had intended to try clinical trials, and whatever it was that could buy her more time, but god had different plans and it was only 17 days later that she passed away. >> mike: then, the two of you met as a result of the memorial service. >> yeah, kathy, you know, she was such an extraordinary woman and i had such an extreme capacity for love and for faith, on her last day, as she and i were sngsly saying goodbye to each other, we knew

the end was near, out of the blue, she said to he me, call gina, and i tried to dismiss that and say, well, you know, we're not talking about anything like that now and she grasped my hand tighter and she said call gina, she'll help you. now i know she had none of this in mind that we would ultimately be married and anything else, but kathy was the kind ever person who connecting people was important, and she had such a heart for gina, just living across town from us and with two boys about the same age 0s our children, she knew that being a stubborn man that i would probably hunker down and try to isolate myself and she was really in her last hours trying to connect us, so ultimately we did, gina was kind enough to show up at kathy's funeral and she sat with me for a while and i asked her about her children of course, how they were doing. and at some point, i looked at her and i said you and i only

just met, but i think you're the only one i know here tonight. >> mike: the interesting thing, while your wife kathy was telling you to talk to gina. >> yes. >> mike: matt was giving yet another video that i think sort of helps to understand how this story got together. >> mom respected somebody and loved somebody enough to marry them after i passed away. i want you to expect that i love and respect at that guy, too. i know your mom's values and if she remarries, she's going to remarry somebody that i approve of. so, i want you to respect that man like he was me. >> mike: more of this remarkable story when we return. stay with us. . [applause].

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(applause) >> we're back with michael and gina, authors of the book "the color of rain" it's a phenomenal story. when we left, it was a pretty sad moment. you guys had just lost our spouses within days of each other and now you meet. how does that meeting turn into a romance, gina? >> well, it takes a little time, first of all. obviously, i mean, when you meet under those conditions, the last thing on your mind is love and romance, because in fact, falling in love again is high risk territory you've just lost the love of your life, the thought of having that kind of exposure to risk to loss again isn't something you can think of. over many, many months we got to know each other, spent a lot of time with our kids and families together.

we had very little time one-on-one, and in fact, we, over the two years that we got to know each other we had exactly one date. so it wasn't like we dated anything and so-- >> it was a great date. >> it was. >> mike: it must have been, must have been a great date. (laughter) >> and it started as a friendship and sort of mutual support for the common grief that you'd had, and then, sparks flew, i guess maybe over time? >> oh, yeah, he's so (laughter) . >> mike:. . >> no, it felt very natural and easy and comfortable and we weren't trying to force anything, there was no need to be, to have each other in our lifers and i think a lot of people have misconceptions, you're both widowed and your kids need a mom and dad and makes sense that way this wasn't out of need it was genuinely out of love. i had been loved so well in my marriage to matt you can see in the video and michael was, too, having understood love that way made it very easy to

know that this was the real thing. >> mike: michael, how did your kids respond when you guys went from friends and talking to saying, hey, we're going to get married. >> well, you have to take a half a step back because just a few months after my wife died, our three children huddled around a piece of paper while i was butchering another dinner for them, and they showed, presented after dinner they presented me with a contract that they'd handwritten and it said roughly, i, daddy spehn promise to never forever marry another woman or else you'll face screaming crying and worse and i happily-- >> no pressure. >> it was nice they put the consequences on there, but i happily signed it because as gina said in those moments you're not thinking anything like that. well, about two years later as we had grown very close, as families, and it was clear, really, what was coming, we sat down for a family meeting, to essentially get our children's blessing and say,

what would you guys think if we were to become married and make a family out of it, and my three kids, they were so excited and so happy, they ran to try and retrieve the contract and i said, no, no, i want to keep that forever and my daughter looked at me only 11 at the time and she said dad, we have to tear it up. otherwise you have to go to jail. (laughter) >> and that was a pretty good indication they were on board. >> i flt pretty good they wanted to tear it up, too. >> mike: you had to hope they-- >> thank god, right? >> and what's been the hardest part of blending the family. you guys are the real life brady bunch. >> yeah, there's no alice, there's no trips to hawaii, i've got news for you. no, it's been, it's actually been pretty seamless, i think that we took our time and involved the the kids in the process and weren't real affectionate with one another and became really good friends pass a unit. there were seven people falling in love there weren't just two and we were cognizant of that and paid close attention to our children and

their needs in the process and the blending part was pretty easy. >> two things that have helped us, first of all, our spouses are still very present tense. matt and kathy are still very much a part of this family. there's nine people in the family two of them have already been called home and the other thing is our faith has provided an incredible foundation for us, so that not only these incredible valleys that we talked about, the sad parts of life, but also, the joyful dancing parts of life are easier to understand for our kids, because of their faith. >> you know, it's a great story. the book is called "the color of rain" and i want to say thanks to michael and gina for sharing the great story, it's not just a sad story although there's a lot of sadness, but the story of triumph, how faith and how family are able to face the most horrible situations that you can imagine, and make them okay. and what a great story. the color of rain, thank you again for being with us.

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fine's wife laurie reportedly caught on tape admitting concerns about her husband's possible sexual abuse of young boys and fine's wife tells one of the accusers on their recording, quote, i know everything that went on. you know, end quote. and we are closely following that situation where occupy philadelphia protesters are ignoring a deadline to vacate the plaza outside city hall there. the mayor setting a five o'clock eastern deadline and protesters were told to remove their tents and camping gear and some did. ors vowing to stay. reports have demonstrators holding a meeting at this hour and the police describing it so far as peaceful. >> if you'd like to comment on the show. e-mail us. >> mike: my comment tris aries the taye go to mike huckabee.com and join my facebook page and sign up to follow me on twitter.

he's the pastor of one of the largest ministries and churches in houston. reaches an all over the world. author of a new book "every day a friday", i visited joel olsteen in his church and asked him how in these tough economic time does someone who is out of work and struggling to pay the bills, how can they be operate 0 mystic, at least as optimistic as the message in his book. >> i think it's so important, governor, you get up every day and find something you can be grateful for. you may not have a job, but if you have your health. live in a good country, in america, i think if you find something to be grateful for, you can still be content on the inside, god will give you peace, you don't let yourself get negative and bitter and start complaining, god gives you the the strength to make it through the hard times, but there are hard times that are pretty hard, a person diagnosed with cancer, they've lost their job, they don't

have health insurance, and tell that person, here is why you ought to be optimistic? . i mean, that's a tough sell, isn't it? >> it is, and we deal with it all the time and people in medical issues and people going through a divorce and i think you have to come back to your faith to that place of peace to say god, this is not a surprise to you, you've got me in the palm of your hand and the apostle paul said, learn how to be content in the good times and the tough times and doesn't take faith to be happy when everything is going your way. i believe that faith is about, you know what, the economy is not good and i've got the problems and god, i am gaeg to put a smile on my face and that's an act of faith. >> the country is going through some painful moments, economically we're divided politically, i've never, i don't think, seen things so completely polarized. is there a sense in that's a setup for a spiritual renewal this this country? do you think it's perhaps at that we're going to get so

desperate that we have nowhere else to go? >> you know, i think it, it definitely could be, of course, i see people turning to their faith in these difficult times, i mean, we see the auditorium filling up more and more and so i do think that when, you know, it's just a fact of life when people hit bottom, lot of times they turn to their faith and a lot of people today, that are believers and they are strong, and i think that faith is at an all time high in america, we go to these arenas and baseball stadium and see all of these thousands come out, i mean, when i was growing up a church of a thousand was a big deal, you know, and now this place, it's just a new day, so the scripture says the brighter it gets-- >> it's amazing, 16,000 seats you fill it up every sunday and people are hungry and that's clear, that there's a spiritual hunger, our people wouldn't walk as far as they have to walk in the parking lot to get one of these seats way up here in the nose bleed

section, but they do week after week. the question he, when you have a church as large as lakewood. how do you have a personal connection or to the critics who say, that's great and you really don't have that chose intimate ministry with people. what do you do make it stow there's connection. >> it's a great point and something that we all face and i think it's important to realize, too, i mean, we started with 90 people in 1959 before i was born, and we never set out. hey, let's have a big church. every service we have a couple thousand prir partners, people that stand up at the front of their section and say if you need prayer come down and pray with someone individual and that's the thing, governor we pray with a lot of people as well and after every service, if you have time i'll be out in the lobby and we try to inbound make it even though it is big you have to do your best to make it small. >> and president obama in the

course of his presidential election, three years ago, spoke with his faith, but once in office, has not exactly overwhelmed a church with his presence. does that trouble you, just as a pastor that the leader of the country maybe could set an example of saying, i'll worship every sunday and show that? >> you know, i think it would be great. i, you know, i'm probably too full of mercy and to say, well, you know, maybe all the things that come with the presidency, that the security and all of that, maybe that plays into it, but i believe he loves the lord and things that i just, i don't know, i mean, in the ideal world, yes. >> mike: do you ever have any contact with president obama? have you been able to encourage him. has he reached out to you. >> he has reached out to us

and we've done leadership things at the white house and pray with him and things like that and he's been kind to our ministry. >> mike: you've not been very outspoken politically, a lot of other pastors in the country have gotten very involved, sometimes with a lot of criticism with that. you've chosen not to be overtly involved. tell me why? >> well, i feel like my calling is to throw a wide, wide net of hope out there. to get people that didn't grow up like me interested in god and think, to think, hey, god's relative in my life and maybe god is for me. the minute you start saying you're that or that, you divide the audience i'm trying to reach. i have friends that are really involved and i celebrate that with them, but it's not my calling, i don't want to alienate people i'm trying to reach with hope and with christ's love. >> do sometimes those pastor friends say, hey, you need to get a little more outspoken? i mean, do you get that kind 6

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life, and to enjoy this life. i don't mean we're going to be jumping up and down on a friday or a monday if something difficult happened. i believe you can have peace to know that god is in control. >> mike: you make the statement in the book, you need to bloom where you're planted. what does it mean? how does is person do that? >> the way do you that, you have to make the decision, this is where god has me right now. this is god. he could change this, he created the whole world. if god is not changing it maybe i need to grow and pass the test and i think about joseph he was in prison 13 years for something he didn't do and he was good to people and in the end god brought him out and that's the hope. god this is where you have me i'm going to trust maybe these people need your goodness, i'm going to be good to somebody. >> mike: if a person is feeling like every day is a monday, is there one tidbit to share with them to say this is how you make your monday feel

like a friday. again, i would go back to get up in the morning and find something to be grateful with, so often the way we start the day, will determine what kind of day we'll have and if we start at negative and complain, that's setting the tone for the wrong kind of day. you need to go out and do something good for somebody else, when you're feeling discouraged, and self-pity, that's selfish, it's all about me and this is the way i feel. and why not be a blessing to somebody, that's the way we were created to live. when you give you're going to feel that joy come in. >> what's the worst day you ever had, the worst day of your life. >> i think the worst day of my life. it's not my dad's death it's when my mother had terminal illness and my mother was 48 years old and i was in college i'd never seen my mother sick a day in her life. at that fast forward through,

we believed, we stood in faith and had a good attitude and god, how could this happen, we're good people and 30 years later and my mom is still going strong. >> some people obviously have the same diagnosis, but not the same conclusion. >> that's right. how do they get through that? >> i think they've got to get through it, and god in complete control and come back to that place of peace and god will never let you go through it more. and the longer i go through it i've ministering 12 years since my dad died. the more i realize there's a lot about faith that i don't understand. so much of faith is trusting when you have unanswered questions and i meet people all the time, joel, my little boy has cancer. what do i tell him. >> god has you in the palm of their hand and not going to tell him everybody is going to get perfectly well, but god will give you strength. >> you didn't grow up to be a pastor of a big church on television. and when were you a little bit

growing up, you watched your dad do this, did you ever say, yep, some day that's me. >> i didn't. i loved production and cameras and editing and thought that's what i would do with my life. i didn't like to get up in front of people. my dad tried for 17 years, i was too nervous and i'm more naturally quiet. when i dad had the heart attack and died i knew i was suppose today do it and god put things in you that you don't know you have. when you trust him and believe he'll take you places you've never dreamed of. >> mike: if you could go back and support all this have before your dad died. would you have done things differently to prepare for this or better to not know and be thrust into it. >> it was part of god's plan for my life and ensure college and seminary and all of that. for my life. i spent 17 years editing my

father's sermon, i grew up in the church and so, i think, this may sound funny, but for me, maybe not going to seminary helped me to keep it simpler and to just talk about everyday life and maybe it, maybe it helped me. >> mike: final question, this year is going to be a very, very tumultuous year in america with an an election going on and i know that you don't get into politics. >> sure. >> mike: but tell me what you open happens in the course of the election cycle, not just for the president, but america's going to go through some very rock em sock em moments over the next few months. what's joel olsteen's hope and prayer for the political environment coming up in these next 12 months? >> i'll probably hope that we would keep is respectful and not get into so much of the personal stuff, but people, i don't have to tell you, they're so passionate about politics. >> mike: no, you don't. >> and you know what, americans, we're all passionate and think we have

the right answer and i think we can keep it respectful and i still believe in honoring those that are out there because they're putting their self into so much heat and i believe in praying for them and honoring them even though i don't agree with them i'm not going to get into the name calling and disrespect. >> mike: brother, you're going to have to pray a lot for that to happen in this country. >> my prayers. >> mike: if it happens i'm going to call you and say keep praying for the economy and everything else. i hope you're right and that happens. joel olsteen, i appreciate you. >> appreciate you. >> mike: coming up, rock and roll roller deon opens up about his faith and his wife. what do yean? it ends december 7th. if you haven't reviewed your medicare plan oices yet, well, it's getting late. medicare gives you free cancer screenings and wellness visits,

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>> class (applause) >> it's classic hits like the wonder and run around sue and they're fan favorites and 50 years after they topped the chart. he has a book called deon, the wandering, welcome, great to have you here. >> nice to be here, governor. >> mike: thanks for coming back. you've had such an incredible career as a very, very young man, lots of fame and money and prestige. a lot of drugs and alcohol, too. what changed your life from those early days? what was the turning point? >> well, you know, success is-- it's like a narcotic, you get just hooked on it, kind of, but it doesn't save you, you know, somewhere along the line, i think god is so, a lot of them start out so broken and damaged and just,

confused, you know and then, they're outsiders and then you become a big insider, but if you don't get rid of the angst and the stuff that's driving you the loneliness and the frustration, it will kill you, so, i think back in 1968 i went know the mt. carmel church, a hub, a little cathedral in the center of little italy in the bronx and i got on my knees and said a prayer and i walked out of that church changed, i was changed. >> mike: this is a wonderful story, in your book, and i loved it, by the way, but this, this is the quote. your father-in-law said to you, god loves to hear from strangers. i love that. said one night i got down on my knees just like you'd seen jack, your father-in-law and asked to take away my obsession with alcohol and take away the chains and did, god likes to hear from strangers and you were a strange until that moment.

>> i sat there and said, pray for me. and he said why don't you pray, god loves strangers, i did and i've never been the same. i'm married 48 years and i'm clean and sober. [applause] >> yeah, my friends, clean and sober 43 years, and you know, when i got down on my knees, something strange happened to me. i've never been the same. i've never had a doubt in my self-worth ever again. >> mike: that's a powerful story, but one of the things that i think makes you such a unique person is that the wonderful relationship you have with your wife suzie, you mentioned 48 years of marriage, again, there's something in the book at that touched me deeply, you said, i fell in love with susan because of her intelligence wit, but most of us, i always say she's a black belt in love.

but you guys knew each other she was 13 and were you 15 and you talk about her so lovingly, why has she meant so much to you? how has she helped make your life? >> you've got to marry the girl that can get you to heaven and she's the one. and never give -- i don't think in all the years i've known susan and we met, i was 16 and she was 14, and i don't think in all of those years she's given me an ounce of sympathy, not one ounce. (laughter) >> compassion, yes, understanding, but it's like, mr., if you want sympathy you'll find it in the dictionary. it's between here. so, in these sometimes when marriage gets difficult it's not because i understand susan or she agrees with me, but i love her, but i love her, i accept her and you know, when god's in the center of that marriage, it works, it brings

you to higher ground. [applause] >> beautiful. am i right? i want you to do a song for you, a bluesy tune and i'll get out of the way. >> mike: what's it called. >> "don't ever let anybody turn you round". ♪ ♪ don't let nobody drag your spirit down ♪ >> you know what i'm talking about? ♪ we're walking up to heaven, don't let nobody turn you round ♪ ♪ we walk with the rich, walk

with the poor ♪ ♪ and learning from everybody, that's what life is for, don't let nobody ♪ ♪ drag your spirit down ♪ we walking up to heaven, child, don't let nobody turn you round ♪ ♪ i might say things, sound strange to you, and i might preach the gospel, i do believe it's true ♪ ♪ don't let nobody, now, treat your spirit down ♪ ♪ you know we walking up to heaven, don't let nobody turn you round ♪

(applause) >> the one and only dion. thank you so much for being here. the book, dion tell us the truth and you do. god bless you, the book is great and i love this story. and thank you all for being with us, hope you have a great week and until the next time from new york, this is mike huckabee, good night and god huckabee, good night and god bless. captioned by closed captioning services, inc. across america, i've learned that when you ask someone in texas if they want "big" savings on car insurance, it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer.

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