tv The Five FOX News December 9, 2011 2:00am-3:00am EST
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make sureou go to greta wire.com. we'll put an open thread up. in the meantime, keep it here on fox news channel. good night from washington, d.c.. we'll see you tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. i don't think i lost $1 billion. good night. ♪ ♪ >> dana: hello. i'm dana perino, with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." we've got a lot to cover tonight. first, donald trump as bold as ever saying he knows more than all the other debate moderators who are actual journalists. we'll show you what donald said. the obama administration classifies workplace massacre as workplace violence. wasn't at it terrorist attack? stanford professor may go to jail for underaged drinks at his home. he said he did everything he could to prevent the boozing.
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we hear from him. "the five" starts right now. ♪ ♪ >> dana: tonight's top story, president obama postpones his vacation, his deal with the payroll tax -- to deal with the payroll tax cuts and then makes it about the press wanting to take a vacation. >> i know some of you might have been looking forward to sun and sand. but the bottom line is that we are going to stay here as long as it takes to make sure that the american people's taxes don't go up on january 1. >> dana: on monday morning on "fox and friends" i do a segment every monday at 7:00 a.m. if you haven't seen it yet. i took a lot of grief after that for suggesting that announcing on a friday night after the jobs number had come out, the president and the first family were going to take a 17-day vacation in hawaii, might provide them with a bit of a perception problem. all sort of supporters came after me how outrageous i was. today, president obama announces he is the hero and
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feel sorry for him. he will have to stay back to make sure congress does its job on the table tax cut when he was on the golf course in the supercommittee. greg, you had to cancel your 17-day vacation. >> greg: i did. to work on fox, new year's eve. >> dana: oh! >> greg: i have theory about this. first, i don't have a problem with the vacation. i wish he would stay in the united states and not go to island nation like hawaii that's hostile to america. >> eric: what are you trying to stay about hawaii? >> greg: i don't remember. obama announces a vacation to get out of his vacation. no guy likes to go on a vacation for christmas. they want to sit home in their house, in their underwear and watch football. he will play the victim. he is so happy he doesn't have to go anywhere. plus, a separate vacation. they're still going to go, right? >> dana: he said, kimberly, michelle and the girls will have a great time in hawaii. they don't need me there.
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wuah, wuah. >> kimberly: that is a fox news alert. can you imagine? for sure! >> dana: i don't mind that he has a vacation. >> dana: bob is winding up. >> kimberly: marinating here. >> eric: sarah palin last night, i was talking to her on my show and -- >> greg: she was on your show? >> eric: she was. she said i'll bet he does not go on the vacation. i bet he cancels the vacation and make it look like he is doing something great for america. she predicted it last night. sure enough we wake up and he canceled the vacation. >> dana: it happened on the martha vineyard vacation. they got heat for going to vacation, then all of a sudden they came up with the obama jobs will. >> bob: i know you have influence and that's probably why he canceled it.
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because of what you said. the reason is simple. obama has republicans up against the wall so bad. why take off on a vacation? these guys are bleeding out of every pore. they are saying you can't have a tax cut. the party of tax cuts. you can't have a tax cut if you are middle class. preserve your millionaire tax cut. i say politics are so much on obama side, stay here and beat them up and they'll cave. >> eric: the republicans on the rope. it's 42 or 44 -- >> bob: they are the -- >> eric: worse than any president. >> bob: that is on the ropes. congress is 9%. >> dana: there is not a question of whether or not the payroll tax cut will get done. it will get done. >> bob: of course it will. >> dana: but do it obama's way raise tax or the republican way to reduce the spending? they will come to an agreement. >> bob: you didn't put it right. raise taxes on millionaires.
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billionaires. >> greg: what is the millionaire this these days? you make $100,000? >> bob: $1 million taxable income. if they can't afford to pay for it, too bad. they ought to. >> greg: it's a product of envy. >> bob: it's not envy. it's justice. gregg justice? let me just say there is an apologist for billionaires and i can't stand. it >> greg: tell me why or how it helps? it just makes you -- >> bob: it helps because it gets money in the treasury and it deserves to be there. >> kimberly: look at him. >> greg: so small it has no effect. >> eric: i'll put this in front of dana. bob won't let me. obama by the numbers. vacation days -- stop it. 69 vacation days. 67 fundraisers. how about this? rounds of golf, 88 rounds of
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golf. this is one you can relate to. his handicap is still a 17. your son has a lower handicap, does he not? >> bob: much lower. dane some of the people that were saying that i was being overboard about the president's trip to hawaii is that well, president bush took time at his ranch. that he owns. that he would clear brush on and invite international leadership. but the republicans are pretty smart in tying the payroll tax cut to the pipeline. the pipeline would be 20,000 jobs and others for the middle class blue collar worker. much more beneficial to temporary payroll tax cut, that they said only 22% of people spend that money. >> bob: enterprise institute. there is a reliable source. >> dana: it is, bob. >> bob: the $1,000 to middle
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class work herbs and you talk about to a pipeline that nobody knows about. forget it. you are in trouble. no place to go here. obama got them beat. they won't raise taxes on millionaires because they couldn't push that button. >> dana: hear the sand bite. a lot of people know about the pipeline and we'll make sure more of them do now. >> here is what i know. how many jobs might be generate by the keystone pipeline. fewer than jobs created by extending the payroll tax cut and extending unemployment insurance. >> dana: for the next year, who benefits in the delay in the x already pipeline? white collar, lawyers, p.r. folks, communicate torse and bureaucrats. it doesn't help the middle class worker he is said he wants to help. >> kimberly: the wrong people benefit from it. that is the problem. it's true! >> bob: is that the best you
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have? i swear. >> kimberly: i'm telling you, look at the practicality of the situation. who is going to benefit? the bureaucrats, lawyers. those are the people that benefit from the pipeline delay. we're talk about two different things right now. >> eric: what this payroll tax number, deficit is $1,000. it's important. but most people would rather have a real, structural change in the tax code versus a one-year, this is very important, a one-year, extension of the payroll tax cut for a permanent increase in tax on the upper -- >> dana: it's like a plea. >> bob: permanent increase in the upper -- >> eric: no, i'm for revamping the tax code. >> kimberly: want the whole thing done. >> dana: can we do one other thing? we only have one minute left. donald trump last night said he knows more than all the moderators. and he is going to show that
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to us in the debate. let's hear from him. >> well, i know about moderators, some are wonderful, some are not. but i know issues better than the moderators. every issue better than the moderators. >> dana: we found out today rick perry put on interesting ad today, a tough ad against obamacare attacking romney and newt says he also is not going to go to the trump debate. which means that leaves, bob, only santorum, bachmann, newt. but do you think one of those is going to not be there? >> bob: i think one of them may not be there. may have one less candidate in the field on saturday. >> kimberly: santorum. >> bob: that is a possibility. i tell you, donald, i decide to have a truce here. it would be nice to donald trump. nice fellow. and i promised him yeah, i would. but to say you know more than every moderator on issues is a little stretch. i'm withdrawalling my offer to be your comoderator.
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>> dana: wow! >> greg: this is all part of donald trump's strategy to debate himself? by next week it will be him facing a mirror and the question is am i awesome or totally awesome in it will go for example five to six hours. >> eric: 17 million people will watch. >> kimberly: now it's getting awkward. he needs people to show up. >> bob: a really big debate this saturday. des moines register debate. >> dana: we're going to get out of here but we have more coming up. obama administration said the fort hood massacre by islamic terrorists was workplace violence. really? we tell you more about that. don't forget you can e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪
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administration gets its way. they suggest we label that the fort hood massacre workplace violence. lord help us when people who are in charge of keeping us safe from the muslim radicals refuse to call it what it is really is. terrorist, jihad. greg? >> greg: calling it work faist violence is calling pearl harbor an air show. they have to consider the victims' families. do they consider that a bad day at the office? it's insulting. it's insulting to their family. >> eric: disgruntled workers, coworkers. it doesn't change the legal treatment of the guy. he is still up for capital murder. >> andrea: he is treated appropriate in that regard. the real danger lies in the political correctness that is putting our troops and honorable men and women serving at risk. why are they characterizing this as a workplace violence situation when clearly it's an act of terrorism against the united states? as many as 20 e-mails that were exchanged between that
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man, major hassan and anwar al-awlaki. anwar al-awlaki praised him in the aftermath of this, saying that this was a hero. committed terrorist act and jihad. >> eric: >> bob: i have two questions here if i could. one, who said that it was workplace violence? who specifically said that? secondly -- >> eric: department of defense suggested they call it -- >> bob: who is the department of defense? >> eric: i don't know. obama administration. >> kimberly: homeland security criticized the department of defense for classifying -- >> bob: we might want a quote from somebody in authority. >> eric: before that, can i just ask you, speaking of the department of homeland security, janet napolitano earlier said what we really need to be careful of are constitutional conservative, far right leaning groups. if that is what we are watching and a man stands up, e-mails back and forth, they are misguided. >> eric: did we call timothy mcveigh right wing terrorist? >> eric: 18 years ago?
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no. >> bob: 60 people including children killed in that one. >> eric: are you in a bad mood? >> bob: not at all. i want to know where it comes from. i want to know who said it. i'll ask him. listen, is he being tried as a terrorist? >> kimberly: he is in terms of a milliontary tribunal. but specifically they -- military tribunal but they are classifying as workplace violence. >> bob: is it a terrorist? >> kimberly: of course. he committed act of terrorism against the united states and 13 people were killed. >> bob: tried under the terrorist act? >> eric: he is not charged with terrorism or any crime -- >> kimberly: there is no hate crime classification under the military tribunal. it can be introduced in the proceedings. >> bob: so is he not being tried -- >> eric: what about the optics of this again? >> dana: it's not that i think anybody in the administration whether political appointee or civilian doesn't take this incident very seriously. when i first heard about it, the classification, i thought
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maybe there are some legal reason to have done it. politically, it looks bad. i would imagine that having been there, i imagine there were times that something comes out at an agency that you don't know at the white house that you would have said i don't know it's a good idea. they don't run it by you. that can happen. but you own it. so i think that part of problem is terrorism has increased. our definition of things have not. we have not moved with the times. >> eric: what are we saying here? renaming a violent terrorist act? >> greg: this is islamophobia phobia. it's terrorism. people say it's terrorism. but a fear of being labeled islamphobic, so you change the terminology. you are trying to legislate reality. >> bob: so you think they sat back -- let me get this correct. they sat down at the defense department and said we don't want to offend the muslims here or -- >> greg: they have had those meetings. >> bob: so we want to call it workplace violence.
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politically it's terrible. agree with dana. but i find it hard to imagine you can indict an administration on something and call it islamophobia when there is no evidence -- >> greg: i'm saying it's islamophobia phobia. >> kimberly: you are right. prior to this happening they had evidence that this man was having mental problems. gregg scared to point it out. >> kimberly: they were worried they would be labeled islamphobic, et cetera. because of that, they put lives of those individuals on the base in danger and look exactly what happened. >> bob: what if he is crazy? >> kimberly: the point is they have to make that determination. what you saw and i'll tell you being a prosecutor, you will look for specific conduct intention. whether or not he new right from wrong. embraced what he did. and yelled out allah akbar. >> eric: thank you. he stood up and started to unload handguns and killed 13 people.
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if that is not textbook definition of jihad for whatever reason -- whatever. >> bob: you're right. you're right. but i find at it reach to indict an entire administration to suggest they're all islamphobic. >> kimberly: no one said that. phobi >> greg: there is so much evidence of this. they are so scared of being labeled bigots they run away. it's not an indictment. it's observation. we make observations all the time, bob. you never make observations? >> bob: i make indictments all the time. >> greg: you have been indicted. >> eric: we'll leave it there. eric holder and jon corzine answering questions on capitol hill. things got testy. we'll show you what went down in a couple of minutes. ♪ ♪ ♪ ( phone ringing )
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♪ ♪ >> kimberly: well, two big hearings out of washington. wall street insider and former democratic insider jon corzine grilled about the collapse of his company m.f. global. but first, eric holder was asked about the botched guns program, fast and furious. >> the president said he had full confidence in this attorney general. i have no confidence in a president who has full confidence in an attorney general who has in fact not terminated or dealt with the individuals, including key lieutenants who from the beginning had some knowledge and long before brian terry was gunned down knew enough to stop this program. edon't have an opportunity to do a top to bottom investigation at this point to deference to investigation
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done by the inspector general. that does not preclude me from taking action from the information coming to my attention. >> bob: first, darrell issa asking the question on that committee, who pushed the administration for hundreds of millions of loans for energy company. /heard that before. i said once again, two-face -- anyway. i think holder, holder is in trouble here. tough keeps coming and coming and coming and it reaches a point where you say, at some point you have to say look, i didn't know about this stuff. i should have. a mistake on my part. >> dana: that is good. >> bob: how is that for fair and balanced. >> dana: it's on the back burner and at a low boil but
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at some point it boils over. when this first started one thing we said here is they should have done a third party, major investigation and let chips fall where they may and he does a mea culpa. kila lo >> kimberly: a lot of times it takes time. delay of game. he says i got the investigation. some of the e-mails, turned over 5,000 so far. >> eric: we should be asking you a question as a prosecutor. but it seems to me like they've been smart. holder said look, we were purposefully or not misleading while there was still an open investigation. testified under oath i was honest to the best of my knowledge. meantime, lanny brewer was saying i got the e-mails and i sent them along. you can see this coming a mile away. brewer is going -- >> kimberly: he will take the hit on that. that is what i think. prediction, bob? >> bob: do you think it matters that issa now has his
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former aides were the ones who did the funding for solyndra, the lobbying for solyndra and now he has another in his district? do you trust him? he was also indicted for being lousy used car salesman. >> eric: perfect for it. >> bob: one criminal knows another? >> eric: not afraid to go after eric holder and vehemently. >> kimberly: we'll move on, because this is investigation thursday. we have another one brewing. oh, yeah. corzine, remember him? he is in big trouble. he gave testimony today. people didn't expect him to. they expected him to take the fifth. he didn't. gave some statements and said i resign and so therefore i don't even know what happened since i left. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i remain deeply concerned about the impact that the unreconcile and frozen funds have on m.f. global customers and others. i simply do not know where the
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money is. or why the accounts have not been reconciled to date. >> kimberly: what do you think? did he do his job? >> dana: he delivered the statement that the lawyers thought was appropriate. i think last night some of the p.r. people worked with him to say you need to sound contrite and calm. you need to sound like you feel bad about what happened. it's so weird to see somebody with a character, larger than life character when he is running goldman sachs and then a senator and then governor, for the state of new jersey, that now he is all quiet and he talks softly. i guess chips will fall when it may when it comes to an end. i thought the biggest concern for me is i don't know where the money is. does anybody know? >> kimberly: $1.2 billion. we understand a couple of quarters fall through the hole in your pockets. happens. but how do you lose $1.2 billion of clients' funds? >> bob: i lost $6,000 at the track on monday. >> dana: but that was your money. >> bob: i have known jon
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corzine a long time. that is exactly how he sounds, whether testifying or a senator or governor. the other thing i'd say, before somebody like corzine had a long and distinguished career. before we indict him, there is no evidence or facts yet for a grand jury to indict the guy. i don't think "the five" ought to be in the business -- >> kimberly: we're not indicting him. let's be perfectly clear. i'll say something. it's good he made a statement. obviously well prepared. he came forward. smart he resigned. doesn't have access to information he need. but he could be looking at trouble. there is an investigation. board members were aware. so they could be indicted, too. >> eric: the man knows where the money is. he knows what went down. >> bob: how do you know what that? >> eric: i know what the business model. you have banks money and customer money. never commingle. he brought the customer money to the bank's money. lost it. >> kimberly: that is the allegation. >> eric: kimberly, there are two options. he lost it, the bank lost it, the customer's money or it's hiding somewhere in some account around the world.
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both of them are illegal. and i know for a fact, i know that this man was at the helm of that company calling the shots on where and what to do. >> bob: if you know that for a fact i'll go with you. you should take the facts you know and get him indicted. >> kimberly: oh, boy. >> eric: again, look, there are -- the facts are out there. they'll come out and find out he knows more than he is saying right there. >> kimberly: do we agree he potentially as exposure here and could be in trouble? >> eric: absolutely. >> bob: no. >> eric: absolutely. >> bob: not the basis of what we say here. >> kimberly: not what we discussed here but the allegation -- >> bob: way more. >> kimberly: all right. >> bob: if he lost $1.2 billion or $5 billion or ripped it off or did something my guess is he would be closer to being indicted than he is now. maybe i'm wrong. eric thinks so. >> kimberly: it just started. see what happens. >> eric: you're cranky. >> bob: i'm not cranky. >> kimberly: somebody is going to tickle bob during the
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break and put smile on your face. there you go. you're very cute. father and stanford professor might go to jail after cops busted teenagers drinking in his house. he said he and his wife tried everything to prevent the drinking from happening. is he really to blame? we will talk about that next. stay with us. ♪ ♪ rn.
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from washington. ♪ ♪ >> bob: welcome back to "the five." professor at stanford has been arrested after police learned teens were drinking in his house and he may go to jail. he and his wife allowed his son to have friends over to celebrate the last game of the season. he says he didn't know the kids were drinking.
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he said his wife and he did everything they could to make sure it wasn't happening. but did they do everything? >> we put clear rules in place. we patrolled the party. we were both at the house. we were upstairs. the kids were downstairs in the basement. >> i don't think there is anything else we could have done short of sitting there in the middle of the party. >> i'm certain that nobody at the party could have left and driven if they had been drinking. >> bob: i want to say i hit my sot today. i'm not in the bad mood. i was told by my daughter i have to go on a diet at christmastime. in my neighborhood you have a big tree. you pick someone's name to buy a christmas present for, like we did here. i picked my ex-wife. where do you think of this? >> eric: i have a 13-year-old. they are so sneaky, they can do things you never thought
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they'd do. you hear about it from other parents and other kids talk about it. i feel for the couple. they tried to stop alcohol coming in the party. but the kids, they are brilliant. especially 17 to 18. my 13-year-old is pretty darn brilliant. >> greg: i didn't know that you can get arrested for having teens drinking in your house. that scares the hell out of me. if you try to protect your parent there is nothing worse than cool parents. come to our house! they're the worst parents in the world. there is another part of the story, they didn't invite the neighbors over. if they invited the neighbors over, it wouldn't a problem. >> kimberly: do you think they should be in trouble? looking at 44 counts -- >> greg: yes, he should be arrested. >> bob: in fact, if somebody drinks, the kid drinks at your house and goes out and kills somebody, you are responsible
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legally, liable for it. >> kimberly: correct. >> bob: i don't care how smart the kids are. maybe i'm ex-time con i can pick this out. but how you don't know basement full of kids are having a drink, you have to be blind, stupid or maybe you shouldn't teach at stanford. i blame them completely because if they were so uninformed about alcohol they shouldn't have been over at the house. >> greg: can i add another point to this. this is my expertise. i am with the neighbors completely. as a drinker, i hate people who can't handle their alcohol. if there are kids in the lawn, swearing and doing horrible things -- >> bob: what are you talking about? >> greg: i am the nicest drunk. i sit quietly. i don't talk to anybody. i hate people who can't handle their booze. i hate people -- >> dana: this is why i have a dog. >> greg: exactly. >> kimberly: if you have -- >> dana: if you have more than one kid in a basement,
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something bad will happen. it's is naive. 44, 17 and 18-year-old and one thing is that they kept going down to check and they took chocolate chip cookies to them and stuff. c'mon! >> kimberly: i think they were naive but are they hardened criminals? it's irresponsible but not a specific intent crime. he's liable for it. but is it a little -- yes, bob is right. >> eric: he brought cookies. >> kimberly: you have to turn it in to a pep ridge farm moment, which is charming. they're still in trouble. they could be criminally liable and civilly liable if someone were injured. >> bob: they might pick something up when they were dunking the cookies in the jack daniels. might have told them something. >> greg: the worst part of the -- >> kimberly: soak them if you got them. >> greg: when kids are in the basement, they are not there to enjoy the basement. they're doing things in the basement. >> bob: i got called by a woman who said there was a party in the basement could i
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help her clear it out. i went downstairs, all the kids were drinking. i said i'm the new sheriff in town. bring your booze up here. a big guy said i don't have booze. i said i bet you do. i said i bet i could find it. walked in the bathroom and picked up the back of the toilet bowl and bottle of jack daniels. broke the kid's heart. /had hid son many there. dabs there may be a debate to be -- >> dana: there may be a debate to have about the drinking age in the country. if you can fight and die and vote at 18, why can't we drink? >> kimberly: wow! dana perino. >> greg: if you can get marry, you can drink. >> dana: think of the recruitment. >> greg: if you are serving and protecting the country. >> bob: the early bird -- maybe i'm biased about this but the earlier exposure you have, like drugs. earlier expo sure the more chances -- >> dana: sneaking around
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leads to binge drinking. >> bob: you may be right. true about college. in college, they are 18 as freshman and they all drink. >> greg: first time they have a chance to drink and they act like idiots. if you introduce it over time. >> eric: is that an argument for legalizing marijuana? >> bob: i have to get out of here. old sot here announcing coming up, chris christie, occupy protesters. can't wait to see that. ♪ ♪ lu? i don't trade on luck. i trade on fundamentals. analysis. information. i trade tradearchitect. this is web-based trading, re-visualized. streaming, real-time quotes. earnings analysis. probability analysis: that's what opportunity looks like. it's all visual. intuitive. and it's available free, wherever the web is. this is how trade strategies are built. tradearchitect. only from td ameritrade.
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>> greg: deal with the occupy protesters two way. new jersey governor chris christie's way. >> sure. yeah. job are so angry, aren't you? so angry, so terrible. let it continue. hey, that will continue. work it all out. work it all out for yourself. >> that was the entertainment we brought from new jersey tonight. i hope you enjoyed it.
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i'll be working at the marriott down the street. please remember to tip your waiters and waitresses, all right? >> greg: not bad. >> kimberly: i thought it was funny. >> greg: or follow "time" magazine, the publication the size of a brochure for fat camp named a movement, the occupy movement the top u.s. story of 2011, beating out lindsay lohan wearing the same jeans three days in a row, which to me was a bigger story. "time" magazine is right. it is a big story. however, the analysis wreaks. occupation persistence made the protest so importance. persistence in what about a the pestilence? the corpses, rains, overdoses, riot, vandalism and the other pain the protesters inflicted on the nearby communities. sorry, cherry picking no longer applies with more cherry than pickers. another death in denton, texas, spitting on cop and boston mayor declaring the protest a rift to help him.
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every catch became a health risk. something "time" ignored. why is that? maybe time hosts the protesters start to read the magazine and tripling the circulation to 400 people. or they remember the ussr coverage of the 1930s. denying the famine. his reward was pulitser prize. if that is not a carrot for a lazy journalist, what is. you were smitten during this. >> kimberly: i know. i'm trying to throttle back. i find him to be exciting and funny. i don't know. i like his approach to things. i think he is a little off the cuff. like bob. he's just being himself. >> bob: is similarity between the two of us? christie is being himself. there were 12 people behind christie and nobody in the audience. >> eric: you got to love christie. the man says it like he is.
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so many people out there going where are you? dabs the occupy wall street -- >> dana: the occupy wall street folks call him corporate goon. but she a public servant. he served as assistant u.s. attorney. worked up to u.s. attorney. served in the state government in new jersey. ran for governor. >> greg: but a big white guy has to be a private goon. >> dana: is there any private sector position acceptable to them? >> bob: what i have right here. every week i'll have one for you. >> kimberly: what is that? >> bob: this is a new -- this is 1350 -- >> kimberly: when he goes rogue. >> bob: this is police/minus average. minus three. twice as many people relate to
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occupy wall street people as the tea party. the tea party won, the republican party crashing the negatives are way up. 80% of the people think the corporate guys should be in jail. 65% think chasm between rich and poor is getting worse. >> dana: their negative is as high as obama's. >> greg: the reason there is sympathy toward the protest, media sugar coat what they are doing. >> eric: according to who? paper in your pocket? >> kimberly: i love it, though. it's a poll. >> greg: i want to move this over. talk about the time made the number one story, the u.s. u.s. story. what is the number one story? >> kimberly: mine was the movie with paul walker. and vin diesel. i mean fast and furious.
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if i'm fascinated by this and the investigation going forward, we will see heads roll. resignations. >> dana: i love the story of solyndra. because the first day when you said it sounded like a lifetime tv movie i've aays loved saying it like that. "solyndra." i think the reason it was a big story i think it is the poster child for what is going to be a big discussion in our country, which is should the government or should it not be involved in picking winners and losers in the marketplace? crony capitalism, is it a problem? >> dana: what is your story of the year? >> bob: darrell issa is one of those people. my story is demise of the republican party. great party. two party country. a great party that has been halftimeed by -- >> kimberly: billionaires. >> bob: that, too. extremist right wingers calling themselves tea people. no different than the john burcher were in the '50s. what has happened now -- seriously. the republican party moved so
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far to the right, i hate to say this. i think you will see this as the year marking the beginning of the end of the republican party as we know it. >> greg: only conservative candidates win, bob. sorry. >> eric: 2010 and -- >> bob: a low turn-out. >> eric: the house and the senate will be republican. >> bob: take your word on that. >> eric: it's going to be -- whatever, we had the same pick so i went with something else. greg, this is the story of the year. "the five." >> dana: big story. >> eric: july 11, 2011, bob, even you can sign on to this, right? >> bob: i always sign on. >> kimberly: that is really cute. >> greg: my pick is killing bin laden. i had a big day. went to times square and yelled at the french terrorists who wouldn't stop talking because i was watching obama on tv and they didn't stop talking in french language they use. i said you're in america.
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get out of the bar. >> bob: why do we worry about mexicans when we allow french to come here? british built a tunnel between them and the french. the french were trying to get to 2,000 years and they -- c'mon! >> greg: i apologize. >> kimberly: pull the rip cord. >> greg: i'm now going to a tease. look at this. i'm told this is picture of a high school field hockey game. there it is. it may be responsible for the team being stripped of their state championship. what happened? we will tell you next while someone explained to me what field hockey is. if you leave now it's over between us and i'll want my sweatshirt back. >> kimberly: so true. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ >> dana: welcome back to "the five." boston cathedral high school football team was so close to a state championship they could taste it. here you can see matthew owens running in the end zone. arm up and official threw a flag on the play because of that. they say he was lifting his arm in celebration, which is unsportsman like conduct, which is against the rules. a game-winning touchdown was called back. so the question is that fair? >> greg: that ridiculous. i'm not worried about celebrations after achievements. i'm worry about people who celebrate after doing nothing, which is rampant in our
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culture. it's good to celebrate. good for them. >> eric: it's a role, it's sad it happened that way. there is no one around. he put your hands up. play by the rules. if you don't like the rules. >> dana: do you think he knew the rule? >> eric: absolutely. >> bob: if that is a rule, it's ridiculous. i played the game for year. i'll make a case, there was a guy coming in and he was pointing at him, someone to block him. i could have made that case. the idea they take it from the kid is disgusting and ridiculous. the other official who called it never played football in his life. all wiped out at the game. couldn't play it. >> kimberly: it's the championship game. so obviously, you are going to be excited. maybe he was pulling a tebow. i don't know. why would you strip a state champion. >> eric: that would have been okay, i would have been fine with that. >> dana: that is mean. great questions, great discussion as always. that's it for us at "the five." thank you
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