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america from economic collapse. good to see you. >> sean: that is all the time we have left. goatee bow and go giants. have a great weekend. we'll see you south carolina from monday night. have a great weekend. >> greta: tonight, you won't believe what new hampshire governor chris tis christy said about president obama. >> those that underestimate barack obama, underestimate him at their own peril. he is good politician as i have ever seen. what did chris christie mean by that. >> greta: right now, brace yourself. if you think solyndra was a one time disaster for american taxpayers, you are wrong. dead wrong. there is new information tonight. it appears that solyndra crisis that is costing taxpayers more than $500 million may be only the tip of the obama
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administration iceberg. cbs news there may be 12 more disasters ready to blow up and $500 million is going to look like chump change. next one collectively could cost you $6.5 billion. also today the white house, document did you believe, new documents about solyndra and reason the document is dump late in the afternoon on friday. they don't want anyone, including you to notice it. congressman joins us. good evening, sir. let me talk about the document dump on late friday afternoon. we brace ourselves at about five minutes to 5:00. tell me, have you had a chance to brief the documents, whether there was anything to sort of give us pause why it was done on friday afternoon? >> it's always done on friday afternoon if there is something they want to hide. particularly three-day weekend,
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we're not going to to effectively communicate on tuesday. our people are going over it right now. the indication really is that what we're dealing is a white house that was inmatly aware of what was going to happen blow-by-blow, if you will and kumg communicating it. one of the things that bothers me, they were more concerned about news of solyndra's layoffs were going to come out before the midterm elections than they were whether or not their plan to finance companies like this, even if they weren't viable was a good one or not. and they are coming out with the $6.35 billion of other loan guarantees. greta, i know it's important to talk about the money. you have to to talk about whether these were favoriteism. even if the loans don't default, in some cases they were inappropriate loans. >> greta: i'll give the before on the favoritism.
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i am having a problem with the incompetence. i say that generally because there is still people in the government working and lots of people in america that are working hard to pay taxes and dumb projects are being financed i think it's appalling we have such a high level of incompetence that this happened. let me tell you this. report from the hill says the document dump, the e-mails show senior white house aides discussing the need to coordinate message weigh the energy department and others ahead of solyndra layoffs. coordinate messaging? we used to call that catholic girls school get your stories straight so the nuns didn't catch you. they use code words, they knew something was going to wrong and american people are going to suffer. >> absolutely. this what happens when carol brown or political entities and
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are that there for political purposes and they are there to protect the parties and president's reelection. it doesn't happen at this level. in addition to the dump, obviously, we're looking at these virdz individual loans and finding some very frightening things. one of them, for example, how harry reid ensured not that jobs were created with blue mountain, maybe called or nevada geothermal but an insolvent companies with loans that were due got a new loan guarantee that was simply moving $80 million from right in the door and right out the door to the previous creditor. they simply paid off a loan. >> greta: i'm looking at that, nevada geothermal, that was already an economic trouble and received $98.5 million. i suppose the fact that no private venture capitalists they
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would never discuss, no private venture capitalist wants to donate money. apparently the government does. you say it's political favorite tsm. i'm just willing to give the benefit of the doubt. another one cbs, sun power, $12.5 billion loan guarantee last fall. this happened after a french oil company took over. i don't know why we're helping this french oil company. it's scandalous with this money. who are these people that are okaying these loans? >> a good example in the indication of blue mountain, nevada geothermal, this is one that harry reid was touting personally but more importantly this is one in which very clearly, steven chu's secretary's signature appears on the conditional guarantee. if you read the guarantee $89
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million out of 98.5 is going into a previous loan that was in default. this was stimulus money. they were loan guarantees under stimulus. there was justification of hundreds of jobs temporary, you don't create jobs when you simply put $80 million in, move it in a loan guarantee and move it to previous loan. it was back filling an insolvent loan. no jobs were individual created and secretary signed it himself. >> greta: it's so profoundly incompetent at best, at best. and the problem is there are a lot of people who have the authority to make these loans are still -- we don't even know who they are. it's absolutely astounding the amount of money that gets wasted. congressman, thank you. i'll look forward you to coming back to washington. >> thank you and i'll put bain
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capital's record against this administration favorably any time. >> greta: i'll be getting that one later in the hour. >> 2012 race, it's beginning to look like a demolition desh pi. romney is getting smashed by his opponents. some are urging romney's rivals to slow down the criticism. from arkansas governor mike huckabee is one of them in the primary race. he was locked in a battle against romney but he is calling to the end of these attacks. governor huckabee joins us. before we get to the discussion of governor romney and his opponents, i'm curious, back and forth with you and senator thompson, on fox and friends, he stayed in the race in south carolina in 2008 because senator john mccain wanted him to divide the votes away from you or make sure you couldn't get the nomination. he is now saying that never
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happened. can you at least tell me where he stand on this back and forth battle between the two? >> it's not a big deal to me. i with was saying how smart they were to do it. i apologize for saying how smart they. i heard ed rollins, my campaign chairman. it is way back in the past. as i said to several people today, being called a liar is the worst thing is said about me i'm fine with that. there is a lot of worst things have been said. a lot of worse things are being said about candidates. that is the nature of south carolina. it is a tough, really rough state. kind of reminds me of arkansas. you better show up with brass knuckles and be prepared to see blood on the floor. >> greta: stepping back and looking at the fight. senator thompson is going to fire back at you next show.
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looking what is going on in south carolina, i paid attention to what speaker gingrich has said. he is not attacking capitalism. he aggressively going after what governor romney did as a businessman. that has been taken he sunshine doing this war on capitalism. in some ways, i'm not so sure he is getting shots from the people from the pundits. >> i think newt is one of the smartest people, not just in race, he is one of the smartest people in american politics. it's not what he is saying. quite honestly it's the manner and tone in which he is saying it. basic thing people want to follow someone that knows where they are going. it's very important that happy warrior that newt was in october and november when his poll numbers were soaring. he was moving to the top of the
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field. >> greta: what changed it? i think, he is not here, but he has said he wanted to maintain that, but there wasn't an event that sort of changed it. you suddenly saw he upped his game a little bit. that was the super packs went after him in iowa and decimated him. he needed to fight back. am i wrong, that was the catalyst for the change? >> no, i think that is what did it. million bucks was spent against me in this state. i know how it feels, you want to slug anybody in your path. what you have to do is back up and remind yourself the voters are not taking as personally as you are. what they want to know how are you going to handle the attacks. so what i'm saying... i understand that even when you
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fire you have to do it with a smile in your face and it's not bothering you. i think it's important tactic that will help him as he goes forward. he is very much in this thing. >> greta: that tactic was sort of what senator john kerry back in 2004. if a candidate won't stand up for himself. a lot of people say, what makes you think he is going to stand up for the rest of the country. if he wanted to take the high road, now he is fighting fire with fire and all of a sudden we don't want someone fighting fire with fire? >> i don't think he sitting back and saying that was pleasurable. it's a manner. all of us as republicans learned when we watch great communicators like ronald reagan somebody would say something
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tacky and he would smile and wave and walk on. maybe he would fire back but he did it right time, right spirit. one of the things that people look for is the leader is able to rise above his own personal emotions in confronting something that frankly would make us all mad, quite frankly. >> greta: didn't help that his supporters got his facts wrong. that was rather not helpful to his cause. anyway, the one thing i do know i'm going to watch the forum tomorrow night. it's going to be hot on this whole topic, like a demolition derby. it's at 8:00 p.m., am i right, sir? >> that is correct. if people want to come and be part of the event, doors are open at 10:00 at the theater there on the campus of college of charleston. we start at noon. it's going to be an incredible experience. all the candidates get equal
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time. they'll be having to answer tough questions from undecided voters in south carolina. a lot to learn from the candidates tomorrow. >> greta: i love the last one with the attorney general so i'm not going to miss it. thank you, governor. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: you never snow what new hampshire chris christie is going to say. governor christie is complimenting president obama and sending a warning to the republican challengers. here is what he told oprah winfrey. >> not be a war at yourself, that was a quote of yours. >> i think the only one is the president. >> how do we get beyond that? i think people are so sick of it. we're so sick of it. >> that is why people like what is going on in new hampshire. i work with democrats. we fight like crazy in public,
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but then we get in a room together and we say, there is something getting everything you want and compromise your principles. i won't compromise my principles but acknowledge that i can't get everything i want. the only person that can make that happen is the president. >> what do you think about his possibility for reelection? >> listen, i think those who underestimated barack obama underestimated him at their own peril. he is as good a politician as i have ever seen. i think shortcomings is governing. i think romney has a depth of intelligence and experience and understanding about government and business, but he doesn't really communicate it all that well. i think people have a hard time connecting at times with him. so his challenge is going to be
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how to connect with people. how to make them feel what i do believe he feels aside what would be great for the country. so the knowledge and experience to be a great president. the challenge is going to be, can he connect with the american people in way that people will trust him. >> people comment all the time and they comment on yours, is it ever hurtful to you? >> i think it hurt me a lot when i was younger. i kind of think now i've developed a bit of a shell about it. it's been talked about so much. i don't like being overweight. i would be health yes, sir and better off if i weren't. >> feel better and move better? >> all of the it. >> do you ever feel guilty about it. i can handle so other things in my life, people want me to be
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president of united states, why can't i handle this? >> yes. >> i have never talked to a man about it. i've talked to women about this but overweight men, gosh, i wish i could? >> sure. i would love to show these people who say because i'm overweight, that means i'm not disciplined. you can get to where i am. let me show them. more the guilty feel is in regards to my children that i wish i could get better control for my own health and my own future. >> to be with your children. i also, your mother on her deathbed, she said go to work? >> go to work. it's an incredible story. you'll tell everything you need to know about my relationship with my mom. where does this come from.
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she was dying. last couple days. she was in and out of things. i sat there for a while. she came to. she said, what day is it? i said, it's friday. she said what time is it? i said 9:30 in the morning. she said go to work. i said mom, i'm taking date off to visit with you. she said go to work. that is where i belong. i said, mom, don't worry bit. she grabbed my hand, she said go to work. that is where you belong. there is nothing left unsaid between us. >> wow. >> greta: governor christie disappointed a lot of republicans by not running for president. could thereby a vice president job in his future? and economic tsunami, europe's economy has been turned upside-down, trouble for the
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>> greta: remember in august when we got the horrible news that our nation's credit rating was going sour. s&p slapped us and it was disturbing economic news. today we just got company. europe. s&p downgraded nine countries including france which is the second largest european economy. world financial crisis is getting worse. what is next? ambassador john bolton joins us. good evening. >> glad to be here.
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>> greta: i'm surprised a they were downgraded six months after we were. but anyway, nonetheless, fact that europe has so many countries that have been downgraded. give me the big picture effect on them and how it's broken up? >> i think this means that the euro is in greater trouble. are you mentioned france being downgraded. italy, spain and portugal were knocked down two notches. they are three of most troubled economies. the overall euro project is in real difficulty but apart from germany the entire european zone economy has been heading toward a recession. this is going to make it worse. i think it will have implications for us economically and politically. >> greta: i'm surprised that germany, chancellor merkel seems to be rather magnanimous toward
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the other countries because the other economies are in such desperate straits and ka jeerm is doing well. what is in it they show not much patience towards those other nations? >> they are at the end of their largesse. the strength of euro has benefited germany by allowing it to export within the euro zone at a relatively low cost. it has detrimental effect on italy and spain and greece. but the germans themselves remembering what happened in the '30s with the inflation are determined to keep the euro sound. they are, i think, they are at the absolute limit in helping the countries that are in trouble. that is one of the reasons why this is going provoking a political crisis within the euro zone and within the broader european union. i don't think they can don't
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muddle along. i think they have to make very hard decisions in the very near future. >> greta: so you and i are having this conversation next august, on the eve of the political convention. what do you see the world situation, the european situation on the economy as a result of the deteriorating situation in europe? >> i think most likely outcome some countries are going to have to leave the euro zone, go back to national currencies. the only other real alternative is a massive centralization of european fiscal power in brussels. that is what chancellor merkel wants but that is unlikely. the next for the united states is that the european union which has been less than the sum of it's parts for the u.s. will be weaker and less able to help us with problems like the iranian nuclear weapons program with the
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arab spring turning in the wrong direction. europe will be less and less of a world player. that is bad news on balance for the united states. >> greta: so more troubles, cost to borrow money to run the government is going to increase. what the chance the strait of horsmuz going to be close by iranians and impact of the price of oil and how it factors into this? >> i think the iranians are bluffing on that threat to close the straits. i think they are backing off from the new sanctions that haven't taken effect yet. this financial difficulty for europe will help the iranians. the countries that are in the most trouble, greece, italy and spain are among those that largest importers of iranian oil. they will stay within the european union. don't impose sanctions on iran and tank our economies and quite possibly tank the economy of the
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entire european union. it plays to iran's blus ter. they realize if they tried military action to close the strait, the united states would make very short work of that. >> greta: ambassador, thank you, sir. >> coming up, no tears for joran van der sloot. hours ago in courtroom in peru he was sentenced to of the murder of a young woman. how many years will he to have serve. plus, what he told us after natalee holloway disappeared. >> i'm this not going to tell you i'm a good person. i'm not going to tell you i'm an angel and done good things, it's not like that. i'm here to tell the truth. >> greta: also ahead madonna is expressing herself. choice words for lady gaga. hear what she said coming up. [ male announcer ] in bli, even ragu users chose prego.
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parole for serving half that time. they ordered him to pay $75,000 to the family. we spoke with the family shortly after the murder in 2010. they told us how the accused killer was the prime suspect in the disappearance of american teenager natalee holloway. >> my wife went up because we were sleeping here. and she started screaming. she as at the computer. and see on the computer and see what he had done. >> you google joran van der sloot. >> we were desperate. so when i looked at this guy on the screen, i just saw him on
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the screen and got very much in my mind. i couldn't stop thinking about him. when i got here, the first thing i did, i went to stephanie's room and i went to the computer and google his name and there he was. so i read the things and what he did to natalie. >> greta: she was murdered five years to the day at natalee holloway disappeared. if you remember, 18-year-old holloway vanished during a trip to aruba. she was last seen leaving a bar with joran van der sloot. we always get a different story with him and we spoke with his parents. this conversation occurred shortly after she was reported
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missing. >> very outgoing person. he a sweetheart and very warm. >> this 17-year-old and academic scholarship, why this? i didn't believe it was true. we said, no, don't worry. i was crying and, truth will come forward and i know that i didn't do anything to the girl. and the truth will come forward.
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he was so strong. >> is there a way to describe what you are going through with your family. >> it's very hard. we are still standing up. i hope joran can stand it, too. i still believe in him. >> greta: joran van der sloot remains the only suspect in natalee holloway's disappearance the body has never been found, six and a half years after she vanished she was declared dead. we spoke with joran van der sloot back in march of 2006 and here is what he said then. >> what is like for you in aruba? >> i mean, aruba. it's great. i grew up. i love it. it's a wonderful island. >> greta: have people been treating you well here?
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what has been the impact of your release? >> everyone here has treated me well. everybody knows what is going on probably more than the people in the states do. everybody has treated me with respect. >> greta: so when you walk down the streets, people say things to you? >> of course, it's not fun that everyone down the street notices you. you want to be able to go up and no one notice you. i can't change anything about that now. so i try to to adapt it and do the best i can. >> greta: why did you agree to talk to us? >> i agreed to talk to you, i thought it was important to hear another side of the story, as well. i look at it one way, one side of the story and another side of the story and then there is the truth. i'm telling you the truth. everything that happened and
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just i'm not going to tell you i'm a good person or i'm an a angel or done good things. notices like that. i'm hear to tell the truth. to let people know what happened and exactly what happened. >> greta: how old are you? >> 18 now. >> greta: what is the impact? >> i was arrested 17. i always felt for myself. it had an impact on me. i spent 90 days in jail. it has a lot of impacted, on my family, on aruba. it's had an impact on everyone i love. >> greta: what impact on your mother and father? >> there is no way to describe that. that is probably the worst thing there is. to see my mom and dad, they didn't deserve any of this. was my my fault they were brought into this.
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it's part of their life, too, now and there is nothing i can do to make it better towards them. >> greta: have you watched on tv and impact on her and her family? >> i've seen so much stuff on tv and on the internet. i mean like i followed it from beginning. i don't hold grudges against her or her family at all. if i were in their position and there was some kid that was with someone that i loved and this happened and the police, you name it, i would be pissed. i probably go to the kid, someone probably beat him up until he tells me everything he knows. i think they are going about this wrong way because they blame me. i don't blame them for holding grudges at all. >> greta: he has pleaded guilty and sentenced in peru.
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holloway's parents say they want him to be sent to alabama, to extort money from holloway saying he paid him he would tell her where natalie's body is. >> greta: coming up, no signs of improvement. consider john mccain turn it around. see what happens when he takes it to late night tv. you must stick around for this. we may be able to help you decide what to do this weekend. we have a special segment about the hollywood movie "the iron lady." >> many men have underestimated.... and rushes relief to the site of your tough pain. it's proven to relieve pain twice as fast as before. bayer advanced aspirin.
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from tuskan island of helio. they are evacuating 50 people still aboard the ship. those that are brought to safety are being sheltered on schools and hotels and church. a judge delaying john edwards trial because of a serious heart condition. lawyers are asking for a postpone. so he can have a medical procedure next month. he is charged with six counts for misuse of campaign funds. judges decided that jury election is will begin on march 26. i'm maryanne rafferty. now back to on the record. >> margaret thatcher, the iron lady, the new movie looks at her. it stars meryl streep. take a look. >> to maximize your appeal. bring out all your qaltsd and
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make you look and sound like the leader that you could be. >> you've got in you to go the whole distance. >> and the pearls has to go. >> and maybe the hat, but i want to give to my husband, pearls. they are absolutely non-negotiable. >> political by grapher wrote a book about prime minister margaret thatcher. from grocer's daughter to prime minister. he now joins us. >> so do you know margaret thatcher and what extent meryl streep was able to capture her? >> it's uncanny for everyone
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that lived through that period in britain to hear that voice, every inat this makes, tilt of the head, that breathing. it shows the younger margaret thatcher when she was taught to lower her voice. there was a younger, strident thatch every and the deep wouldn't that we came to know and love. it's a remarkable. she has the truth of the character. >> greta: the movie is interesting. it is a 24-hour period to revisit all parts of her life. is that how it's done? >> i suppose it is. i haven't thought of it as a 24-hour period. it's looking back, looking back over her life. >> greta: is margaret thatcher, how is she thought of today in the u.k.? >> she is still very divisive figure. she is still adored by those who
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adore her, those still hated by those that always hated her. there is sort of nostalgia in the recognition that he was a great figure of churchillian proportions and nostalgia to clarity she brought to politics. the mush sure period where where nobody seems to stand for anything. you knew where she for. there were causes and much less interesting now. >> greta: she served three consecutive terms. i don't know if anyone else has done that as prime minister and he was a woman and she was tough? >> yes. she was very remarkable. she was unlike anybody else. she stood out, partly because she was a woman. partly, she was a tough woman.
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she was tougher than most of the men. she had to be. they thought they could patronize her at the beginning. she had to struggle to assert herself and show she could not be patronize had but she could turn the felt in it as well. she could wrong foot the opponents because they never knew which side they were dealing with. >> greta: military streep is a great actress but i got. >> merle streep is a great actress but i'm looking forward to both. john, thank you for joining us. straight ahead. this is not a jellyfish. what the washed up on a florida beach. this a weird. this is very weird. you don't want to miss this one. and also madonna, she comes out swinging against lady gaga. she is not going to like this one. you have to hear what she said
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>> greta: you've seen our top stories but here is the best of the rest. we all know congress's approval rating is dismal. john mccain got to see it up close and personal.
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he talked about his experience with david letterman. >> my frustration wouldn't be so great, i speak for a lot of people but this unsolvable deadlock in congress. [ applause ] >> you know, the approval rating of congress. >> it's 9%. we now down to paid staffers and blood relatives. [ laughter ] >> i'm not sure of the blood relatives to tell you the truth. [ laughter ] >> a guy runs up to me, hey, did anybody tell you you look a lot like senator john mccain. i said yeah. doesn't it make you mad as hell. >> he has a sense of humor about it. lady gaga has called madonna an inspiration but madonna is calling her something not so
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flattering. one of her songs sounds similar to madonna's "express yourself." >> itfuls ruductive. >> is that good? >> look it up. >> greta: ouch. we'll see if lady gaga fires back. and bizarre creature washed up on south florida. a couple was walking along when they saw the long fish with budging eyes. it turns out ore fish. they are usually found in tropical oceans. they can grow to 56 feet long. >> another shocking discovery, a woman in sweden finds a love letter on the ground. guess this, it was written in 1862. she found the letter in a field and written by lena. if you wonder what the love
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