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"happening now" starts right now. we'll see you tomorrow. jenna: thanks, martha. we begin with a fox news alert. five more bodies found in the wrecked italian cruise ship. the death toll is now at 11. i'm glad you're with us. i'm jenna lee. >> i'm gregg jarrett divers going into the bowels of that vessel hopping to find survivors trapped in air pockets. one official holding out a glimmer of hope that someone will be found alive. jenna: as twilight false across the ship. two americans, jerry and barbara hile from minnesota among the passengers still unaccounted for. their friend call them amazing souls. they were devout catholics who spent part of nearly every day at church. >> you won't find anybody
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better than what they were. >> we have hope, yes. we have to continue the hope. gregg: meanwhile the costa's captain inside an italian courtroom for the very first time. greg burke streaming live from italy. greg, what is the latest with the cape taken? >> reporter: well, gregg, the captain is certainly in trouble. preliminary hearing today. a magistrate taking a look at the case to see about possible charges could be filed very soon. possibly manslaughter, abandoning the ship. what is on him does not look very good. listen to the conversation between the port authority and the captain scatino. coast guard saying ska tino perhaps you saved yourself from the scene. you look very bad. captain, please. go back on board. assure me you're going back on board. i'm in the lifeboat under the ship.
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i haven't gone anywhere, i'm here. gregg, there you have it. not exactly going down with the ship. not exactly captain scully. this guy is in a lot of trouble, gregg. >> how is the search going on right now, gregg? >> reporter: well it is turning dark just now. the good news it has been a very calm day. as you mentioned before at this point there is really only a glimmer of hope a bit of hope finding someone alive after so long. it was friday night when this occurred but certainly the sea is helping out in any case in recovering the bodies. that has already happened today. the number of dead now up to 11, but still two dozen not accounted for. gregg: i know that some rescue teams using micro explosions to try to get into different parts of the ship. hoping that maybe some air pockets have people trapped still alive. look, greg, i've read also there are fears of an environmental disaster, all kind of liquids eminating
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from the ship that could slide further into the sea? >> reporter: that's correct. 500,000 tons of fuel. there have been some reports of some leakes but nothing major happened certainly yet. that is good. clearly there is alarm though because we've seen here in the port a lot of equipment arrive in the case of a spill. so clearly they are preparing for the worst but calm seas so far have been good. but they say in order to pump the fuel out they will start that operation, it would take between two and four weeks. we hope for good weather so that can be done. gregg: greg burke, live in italy. we'll check back with you as the search-and-rescue hopefully continues. jenna. jenna: continued coverage on that. meantime we turn to politics. republican rivals throwing hard punches a the fox news presidential debate in south carolina. mitt romney the focus of an intense pile-on. taking fire on a number of issues including this exchange over the former massachusetts's governor's
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tax returns. >> my record has within one of those open to the public quite a few years. as a matter of fact my income tax have been out every year and newt, i think you're going to let your income tax come out thursday. and mitt, we need for you to release your income tax. so the people of this country can see how you made your money [applause] >> governor romney, speaker gingrich, senator santorum and vocally tonight, senator perry, governor perry are calling for you to release your tax records. the obama campaign is asking for the same thing. governor, will you release your income tax records? >> i think i heard enough from folks saying let's see your tax records. i have nothing in them to suggest there is any problem. i'm happy to do so. i sort of feel like we're showing a lot of exposure at this point and if i become our nominee and what has happened in history people released them about april of the coming year. that's probably what i would
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do. jenna: according to the latest "real clear politics" average of statewide polls romney holding onto a solid lead over gingrich with the palmetto state with the rest of the field trailing by a wide margin. that is what is looks like now. still a couple days left. senior correspondent john roberts live in myrtle beach, south carolina with more. john? >> reporter: the real story out of last night's debate was newt gingrich. he did himself a world of good with his performance just what he needs before the south carolina primary. he is nipping at mitt romney's heels. he is trying to make a push. he bobbled a little bit at the beginning with bret baier's opening question about bain capital and why attacks on capitalism, why the attacks on romney. when he got to juan williams field of questioning about race and poverty he managed to turn into a minefield into a standing ovation. have a look at this. >> so here's my point. i believe every american of every background has been endowed by their creator
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with the right to pursue happiness and if that makes liberals unhappy, i'm going to continue to find ways to help poor people learn how to get a job, learn how to get a better jobe and learn some day how to own the job. [applause] >> reporter: very popular answer from gingrich talking with senator lindsey graham south carolina a moment ago. he thought the last night's debate might be worth a couple or three points for newt gingrich. he says if mitt romney wants to win here he has to step it up. jenna: interesting. wonder what he means by that. we can only assume at this point. let's talk about couple other moments that stood out and people are talking about. >> reporter: ron paul at, in the same debate had one of the worst moments when he talked about a golden rule policy in terms of dealing with america's enemies that got him booed. he got lots of laughs when subject of negative attack ads came up. rick santorum challenged him on ads his campaign and pac
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issued to rick santorum. hear is the way ron paul answered that question, listen. >> they should be abandoned if you're not telling the truth, but if you're exposing a voting record i think it is quite proper. there was one ad we used against senator santorum and i was, i only had one problem with it. i couldn't get all the things i wanted to say in one minute. [laughter] >> reporter: good answer from ron paul. rick perry also had a good night. the question, jenna with rick perry if he had done this back in november it might have made a difference but could it be too little, too late at this point? >> we'll see as he moves toward the primary. john roberts in south carolina. more on this, gregg. gregg: fascinating debate. we are your election headquarters. keep it here on the fox news channel for your special coverage of the south carolina primary beginning saturday 6:00 p.m. eastern and goes deep into the night. we hope you will join us. the republican candidates not letting up after last night's debate. they are canvasing the state just ahead of saturday's
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primary which could be a make-or-break event for some of them. let's turn to chris stirewalt. fox news digital politics editor, host of power play on foxnews.com live. that moment moment john roberts was talking about. newt gingrich huge cheers a standing ovation. was that a big moment for newt gingrich? does that gain him some votes? >> well, gregg, think about it in terms of how the race came into south carolina which was gingrich having fallen behind rick santorum, the other not romney if you will, the conservative alternative that many on the right hope will emerge for the republicans. he finished behind rick santorum both in iowa and santorum and sort of clattered into south carolina on these attacks on bain capital that john referenced that causes so much controversy. he needed to use just as he has done throughout the process the debates to best advantage and last night he did. he came out. swung for the fences.
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gave big answers. gave soaring oratory that south carolinians wanted to hear. he reaffirmed their views and their choices and stood next to mitt romney, why not me, why not try it here, south carolina? gregg:. jenna: . gregg: what about mitt romney a narrow lead in south carolina. he won iowa and new hampshire big bull's-eye on him. they went after everything from his character to his wealth to job creation. how did he do? >> well, he did the most important thing. he didn't blow it. it wait a minute a great night. he was a little bit till as a couple of points. not exactly the kind of happy warrior the republicans want in a nominee but he didn't make any major mistakes. as long as you are, as he now is, 40% in the latest "fox news poll", he has a clear margin. he is in full frontrunner mode. he is basically playing prevent defense. he makes sure nothing catastrophic happened and he can try to get through.
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for gingrich, it is different. he needs to take risks. he has to convince south carolina voters in risking for the first time since 1980 their record in selecting the eventual republican nominee. gregg: romney has a strong national lead but fairly narrow in south carolina. lots of undecideds. some of them could go to rick santorum. was he a standout last night? how did he do? >> not super for rick santorum. out of the three, what i call the not-romneys, santorum, newt gingrich, and rick perry, santorum probably had the toughest night because now that he is in sort of a top tier, the field has shrunk he got some very tough questions on his record as it relates to labor relations, as it relates to gun control, things like that. that was tough. when he tried to attack mitt romney on his record on felon voting rights he was actually attacking him from the left in fairly conservative state saying he believed the felons should have their voting rights
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returned. that wasn't a super exchange for him. gregg: for ron paul did he struggle in the end especially when it came to foreign policy? was that something that really hurt him? >> boy, we've seen this movie before, haven't we. they love it. as john roberts was talking about the republicans love 80% of what ron paul is talking about. they jump up for it. love it, small government and all of those things. when the conversation turns to foreign policy that is dramaticly, there is dramatic difference the prompt for ron paul here in south carolina this is heavily military state. he gets a lot of contributions from military members, he is not seen as a strong defense candidate and that will do some damage to him here. gregg: chris stirewalt in myrtle beach, chris, thanks very much. you can get more of your political fix at the bottom of the hour. chris will be hosting "power play" live, bottom of the hour on foxnews.com. while you're watching us, log on, click onto the link right there on our homepage as well. jenna: it is all an exercise
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in multitasking. gregg: you have to do it these days to keep up. jenna: you can online shop. one of my pair of the pastimes. gregg: by buy something for me. jenna: the incredible stories keep coming in from survivors off the cruise ship disaster. we're getting descriptions of chaos, sheer confusion as the evacuation unfolded so slowly. we'll speak to one many would who realized she would have to take matters into her own hands to make it home. gregg: tensions escalating between the united states and iran but could tehran really send america plunging back into a recession? we'll talk to former ambassador john bolton coming up. stay tuned. jenna: speaking of lot leaving the couch, a fast-food chain known for making it your way may soon deliver it your way too. we'll explain how next. ♪ . wake up!
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jenna: new developments in an escalating showdown with with iran. iran today making several arrests in connection with the assassination of that prominent nuclear scientist last week. this as we learned tehran plans to send a model of our drone, to the white house this after of course the government demanded to get our drone back. it is all unfolding as the showdown over the global oil supply is raising the steaks. some worrying that the winds of war are blowing and in the form of a recession. former u.n. ambassador john bolton is here and a fox news contributor. we have election iran in march. one here in november and six months to decide how tough these sanctions are really going to be when it comes to iran, the oil supply and their central bank. if you're advising the
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administration what is your advice here? >> the administration got itself in a bit of trouble while insisting when congress was considering sanctions it wasn'ted presidential waiver authority. the legislation was very sweeping. one consequence of that in six months when the legislation begins to take efebts -- effects the president will be under enormous pressure from american friend to grant waivers to the sanctions. that process means once you grant one waiver, others want waivers as well. the administration trying to look tough against iran also has to worry about the rising price of oil and its threats to a pretty feeble economic recovery. jenna: so two questions in there. when it comes to how tough the administration is going to be that means the american public will actually have a chance to see where the administration stand on iran and our, quote, unquote, friends. isn't that a good thing? >> the administration didn't
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want the sanctions to begin with but it put itself in a more different difficult political position getting the waiver authority. many american allies say it is better not to have waivers, they can say to their public, we've got no choice, we've got to comply with these sanctions. if some countries get waivers others will have to press for them as well. what this says fundamentally the sanctions can't work because when it comes right down to it the obama administration will care more about the potentially detrimental effect of rising oil prices on our recovery. jenna: let's start with that, with oil prices because again we're looking off to the horizon assuming we have six months here. but if things start happening with iran, oil prices can shoot up overnight. so again, looking at the way we're etch proing this country, how do we take that into consideration and that potential damage to our economy as well was having the right policy when it comes to facing iran? >> remember of course it is in iran's advantage to keep the global oil markets as
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nervous as they can make them with belligerence and threats and so on. they're doing a pretty good job of that. what this shows really though is the miss cha just nature of the iranian regime. if you don't like the way they're behaving now and threats to close the strait of hormuz and the like, imagine how much worse it will be once they get nuclear weapons. that's why i would have dealt with the nuclear weapons question years ago instead of point where we are now where iran is close to achieving that objective and it is threatening economic recovery and not just in the u.s. but in europe too which in many respects is even more vulnerable to rising prices of oil. jenna: we can only look forward to the decisions we have in front of us. you recently endorsed mitt romney for president for the gop. and mitt romney had this to say in a cbs debate in november. i want to play this for you quickly. >> look, one thing you can know and that is if we reelect barack obama, iran will have a nuclear weapon.
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if we elect mitt romney, if you elect me as the next president they will not have a nuclear weapon. jenna: how can we 100% guarantee iran will never have a nuclear weapon? what is the best way? >> it is a harsh decision somebody has to make because right now the odds on end result is that iran will get nuclear weapons unless somebody uses military force to break their program. there is simply no doubt about it. i think the biggest risk right now is that iran can look at the calendar too. they see we have got elections coming up and i think they would rather have a weak obama administration in office when they get their nuclear capacity. so if anything, i think it means that iran speeds up its program. and that in turn brings into play the possibility that israel, looking at exactly the same reality, will make its own decision one way or the other on whether it will take military steps against iran's program. that is why i think 2012 could well be a critical year on the iran question.
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jenna: and your insights are really appreciated, ambassador bolt ton. we'll be talking next hour as to whether or not military option includes cyber warfare or cyber warfare is different category when it comes to iran. ambassador bolton, thanks for joining us. always nice to have you. >> thank you. gregg: the space race is heating up again. we'll tell you why some russian scientists believe the united states is to blame after a 13-ton space probe comes crashing down-to-earth. and the death toll is rising in italy. next we'll talk to a survivor from the tragic cruise ship crash why she only just got home or how she got home after taking matters into her own hands. >> first floor was already underwater and the second floor, you could see was going to be underwater. that's where our cabin was. >> we heard all the glasses in the bathroom, everything was falling on the floor and cracking. everybody was running with
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the life jackets on. >> i couldn't rely on costa, the crew, nobody else. we had to do it. that's what i told my mom. you have got to use those legs like you never used those legs before. >> for a while i thought we weren't going to make it. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. [ inner voice ] establish connection. give me voice control. applications up. ♪ hands in position. airbags. ten of 'em. add blind spot monitor. 43 mpg, nice. dependability. yeah. activate dog.
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gregg: we're getting brand new accounts of what went wrong aboard that doomed cruise ship off italy's coastline. a woman on vacation with a group of friends said, had she listened to the cruise line, she would still be stuck in italy. instead, she is safe back here at home in the united states. lauren moore joins me from nashville. lauren, we're so glad you are safe and we know your friends are as well. i want to talk to you about how you got home. first, go back to the moment of the crash. you're dining with a group of friends, wearing some evening clothes. briefly tell us what happened. >> sure.
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we were in the dining room. we had just been served our appetizer when we heard a loud noise which we now know was us hitting the rock. all of a sudden we heard all the plates and glasses on the tables just start to hit the floor and shatter and the boat started to lean to one side. and, everyone started to get up in the dining room and started to run out immediately. gregg: you went back to your room, right, to gather warmer clothes and what, to get your life vest. then what did you do? >> right. we grabbed a cell phone and a wallets. i had something in my head was saying if i get through this, on the other side i'm going to need at least some essentials and, we grabbed those things. and then ran to the lifeboats. gregg: you shimmied down the side of this cruise ship onto a lifeboat and you made it to shore. what kind of assistance were you getting from the cruise
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line? >> at that point we were pretty much on our own. we never really heard anything from the cruise line. none of the crew. we asked a lot of times for help. what's going on? where are we going? and we were never really given any direction. and, we kind of decided at one point, we can do better than this. and my friend and i just kind of took matters into our own hand and contacted the embassy ourselves and the airline and got our own hotel and got ourselves back home. gregg: yeah. have you heard from the cruise line at all? either costa concordia cruise line or the parent company, carnival cruise line? >> not at this point. neither one of those have contacted myself and i don't think my friends either. gregg: i mean, if you had tried to deal with the cruise ship company, do you think you would still be
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there stuck in italy? >> i think there are some people that were still waiting. when we were leaving, if they had listened to the cruise line, they still didn't have the passport and no way home yet. we were really thankful that we had done what we did, which was take matters into our own hand and get ourselves home on our own dime really. gregg: well the evidence seems to indicate this crash should never have happened, lauren. i'm sure you're angry about that. most of all, here it is tuesday you haven't heard from either the parent company, carnival cruise line or costa concordia. are you angry about that? >> at this point i'm just trying to put the pieces back together myself. i know it is a major disaster. it would be for any company. i know they're still looking for some missing people. that is probably the most important thing right now. gregg: yeah. >> and so, i'm just really focused on replacing some
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things that are essential that are at the bottom of the sea. gregg: sure. >> and i hope that they do contact myself and all the other passengers that were on the boat that night and let us know what we can expect from here. gregg: the important thing you're safe and sound. everything can be replaced. you're very composed give the circumstances. lauren moore, thank you very much for sharing your harrowing story. appreciate it. >> thank you. gregg: jenna? jenna: what a lesson on self-reliance. gregg: absolutely. take matters into your own hand. very courageous. jenna: amazing. this is an interesting story. kind of caught our eye. a russian investigation underway after at 13-ton space probe comes crashing down to either. -- earth. russian scientists asking whether it was the united states and our equipment that caused their probe to crash. now they're staging a high-tech test to find out who or what is to blame. julie banderas has more on the story for us. julie? >> reporter: i'm not
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scientist. i will try to break it down for you guys. the probe crashed after the u.s. apparently launched radars on second orbit around the earth. investigators with the russian government commission suspect that launch may have triggered the crash. they have to do more digging to find out. scientists will stage an experiment where a model phobos will be exposed to radiations similar to the radars. they will try to prove in the loss of probe was caused by radar activity. they say it was an accident than a determined act of sabotage. they're something other causes of failure including a short-circuit or external impact. the information will be made subject january 26th. i will expect a full discussion from you. >> could be aliens. you never know. gregg: "e.t." go home. will there be a pop quiz? >> reporter: there will be.
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gregg: i always pass those. jenna: julie thanks. gregg: mitt romney under fire last night, fox news's presidential debate but will his rivals attacks be enough to stop his momentum? we'll look at that straight ahead. we continue to follow the deadly cruise ship disaster in italy. new audio of a phone conversation between the ship's captain and the port authority. >> translator: you get on board. this is an order. you need to continue the rescue. you called the evacuation. now i am in charge. you need to go on board the ship. is that clear? gregg: we're going to have more on this incredible audiotape. the possible fallout for the entire cruise industry coming up next.
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jenna: authorities releasing stunning new audiotape where you can hear the captain of the wrecked cruise ship speaking to the port authority about the disaster. take a listen to this. >> translator: you get on board. this is an order. you need to continue the rescue. you called the evacuation. now i am in charge. you need to go on board the ship. is that clear? >> i am going. >> go, call me when purr on board. my air rescue team is there. he is at the bow. there are boats, schettino. how many dead are there? one i'm aware of one i heard of. you need to be telling me this but it is dark and we can not see anything. what do you want to go back home, schettino? it is dark and you want to
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go back home? get on the bow of the ship what can be done and how many people there are, and what do they need, now!. jenna: you can hear it even in italian the emotion behind that conversation. we have the news of the deaths in this accident. the shocking images obviously on your screen. how badly will this shake the entire industry? that is one of the questions we're asking today. phil keating is live in miami with a broader look at all of this, phil? >> reporter: hi, jenna. there is about a dozen people now declared dead out of italy and two dozen remain missing and the searching goes on. there is already direct economic impact financially speaking for miami-based carnival cruise lines, which owns the gashed-open coast sta, the coast sta concordia. that is about 100 million in lost revenue for this upcoming year. the florida is the port ship capital of the year with miami, and port canaveral, the top three.
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about 13 million americans took a cruise vacation last year. about the 20 million worldwide. it is growing in popularity. the dramatic pictures of this deadly scene played out on televisions around the globe all weekend long yet cruise travelex period of times say people canceling their future trips because of this, so far extremely rare and anecdotal. >> after a plane crash people get right back on the airplanes and get right back on the cruise his. these ships are numerous as large as they are because they offer incredibly safe vacations and the traveling public understand has that. >> reporter: as for the cruise industry, maritime captain trainers here in south florida say every time there is an accident, whether it is big or small, industrywide safety protocols, captain training and emergency procedures for all employees automatically get reviewed. cruise ship captains go through several years of education, training and sea time before they are promoted to captain. while the chairman of coast
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at that is blaming the mediterranean wreck entirely on human error the captain for going off course too close to shore to show off the ship, all cruise operations remain for now right on course. accident accidents like this in the cruise industry again extremely rare and travelex period of times say cruising as your vacation is one of the safest ways to go and people save a lot of. several cruise ships will be launched for the cruise industry this year. jenna: never hurts to update safety procedures as well. a good reminder as you mentioned phil. thank you so much, phil keating in florida for us gregg: mitt romney focus of several attacks in stout caroline last night. his rivals challenging his record on jobs, unreleased tax returns, negative super
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pac ads and former massachusetts governor's record as a hunter. will it be enough to slow romney's momentum ahead of saturday's crucial south carolina primary? amy starter, associate editor of "the hill" joins us. good to see you. not much time left. did you see anything in last night's debate that the might alter romney's very narrow lead there in south carolina? >> no, i did not. i don't think he will win in a blowout. i don't think he has that much momentum. he is ahead in a very divided field and saw his rivals, newt gingrich and rick santorum particularly doing well in the debate last night, getting lots of healthy applause. even rick perry got a lot of applause from the debate hall last night. that will end up as an advantage to romney as he ekes out a win in a divided field. not one of his rivals was able to make the case last night for why. they criticized him on this or that, for whyer this the better conservative alternative on the stage to mitt romney and why the
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party has to unite around them saying i'm mad at his super pac is not really a good message. i don't think you saw one person really make the case and differentiate themselves. it is still a crowd that helps mitt romney. gregg: gingrich has used, you mentioned the ad, south carolina to level an assault on romney's career as a venture capitalist. here is what kim stros sell wrote in her op-ed in "the wall street journal" we'll put it on the screen. running for republican nomination as anti-capitalist is not the smartest politics. the gingrich team misjudged its south carolina audience. this state has been the epicenter for the debate on the merits of free market. the voters here get creative destruction. does she have a point? has that pro-gingrich ad attacking romney really rallied a lot of south carolinians on to romney's side? >> i think it actually really helped mitt romney with some conservatives in the establishment and outside of the establishment in south carolina.
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it is also helped rick santorum. i don't think it really helped flute newt very much. these -- newt gingrich people supporting newt gingrich have been critical of the ads and documentary film. what you saw with the influence senator jim demint in south carolina refusing to endorse but criticizing newt gingrich and rick santorum, excuse me, not rick santorum, rick perry and newt gingrich jumping on the anti-capitalism bandwagon with the bain capital film. that he tacitly, even though he says he is not endorsing was really offering a defense to mitt romney. some of his close associates came out and endorsed mitt romney. that was a surprise to mitt romney. ended up being more helpful than gingrich would have imagined. >> i'm out of time. one more quick one. there is perception that mitt romney doesn't appeal to conservatives. look at latest rasmussen poll in south carolina. that is absolutely not true. he is doing well among conservatives. our new "fox news poll" nationally shows romney is lead be his opponents among
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tea party voters and evangelical voters substantially. what does that tell you? romney belie the conventional wisdom? can he unite the party? >> gregg at this point a majority of people are, more people voting against him than voting for him as you see in primary after primary. that will probably happen on saturday. what you are also seeing there is decision by conservatives to get behind the most electable candidate. he is seen increasingly by all kinds of republicans in a divided party as most electable candidate. that will help him win if they see him as the person to beat obama. gregg: amy stoddard, good to see you. thank you very much. >> thank you. gregg: coming up big changes headed to your local mall. we'll show you how retailers want to change the way you window shop by giving stores a high-tech makeover. [ male annouer ] juice drink too watery?
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today state democrats are submitting signatures they have collected in the hoping of recalling government scott walker and other state lawmakers. after months of aggressive campaigning looks like they may have numbers to do it. we've been following story, one of the big stories last year. mike tobin in madison, wisconsin, with what is going on here. mike? >> reporter: the signatures are coming here with the government accountability board by the truckload. after signatures are verified and discarded, scott walker and other five republicans are operating the idea they will be forced on the ballot for a recall election. >> i fully expect to be back on the ball report. >> reporter: the lieutenant governor is a secondary target in the wisconsin recalls. the primary target in this emotional battle is governor scott walker for his legislation that strips state employee unions of collective bargaining power. wisconsin democrats are looking to recall four republican state senators
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who support the walker f one is unseated, the balllons of power shifts in the that. senate. the lieutenant governor says big union money from out-of-state is driving the fight and using state recall statutes to play politics. >> this is becoming almost a speckel. and i don't think that the writers of the original recall statute, that the founding fathers of wisconsin, when they wrote the constitution, intended for the use of the recall function in this way. >> reporter: a new election will cost state taxpayers $9 million at a minimum. the cost will increase with legal challenges, primary challenges and other complications. democratic state senator, a possible challenger to walker says the recall is worth the cost because so many dissatisfied wisconsin voters signed the petition. >> understanding that the threshold is very high to recall an elected official here in wisconsin. that if that threshold is met, absolutely whatever the cost is going to be is what it is going to be. >> reporter: state law
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allows a politician who is targeted for recall to raise unlimited funds until the election becomes official and the date is set. to this point governor walker has raised more than $5 million, about half of that coming from out-of-state. jenna? jenna: still a story we'll continue to watch, mike, thank you. gregg: burglar alarms meant to keep your homes safe when you're not around, of course. why are some police departments say they're intentionally ignoring them? we'll look at that growing controversy. missing montana teacher shirley arnold now presumed dead. police have a pair of suspects in jail but they are still looking for her body. the loss is having a huge impact on her community and congregation. we'll speak live with shirley arnold's pastor, next. >> right now our primary mission is to get miss arnold back to her family and that is our focus right now and we are not going to
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jenna: authorities are asking for help finding the body of a missing montana school teacher, sherry arnold. she disappeared on january 7th. she is now presumed dead but there are still so many questions around this case. police believe her remains are buried somewhere along the montana-north dakota border. the chief suspects are under arrest. lester van waters, jr. and michael keith spell. they're facing aggravated kidnapping charges, not murder charges. there are a lot of questions remaining. we want to talk with pastor david warner, leads the congregation in trin any lutheran church where sherry
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arnold was a lifelong member. sherry is a teacher. is a mother and five children combined with her husband's family. what can you tell us about sherry? >> as you said, she's life-long member here. born here. baptized at our church but she is also, you know a math teacher. she taught algebra to my children and many, many others and just a very beloved member of the community. so any loss like this is horrible but this loss is, profoundly impacted a lot of people. jenna: we can only imagine, for a community like yours. these men that are under arrest. lester waters and michael spell, do you recognize these guys? are these people familiar in your area? does anyone know them? >> no. and my understanding is that, i don't know how, if they had been in the area for anytime but they're from colorado and, not from around here at all, no. jenna: law enforcement has been really tight-lipped about this case as we alluded to in not some words
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in our introduction to you. what are they telling the community overall? are they telling you to be careful? are they telling you what to expect? what is that interaction like? >> well i think law enforcement has done a tremendous job in terms of responding to this crime. very difficult because just a lot of rumors all over the place. they have been trying to tell the family, to, you know, get, trust the information they get from them and not to listen too much to what might be on the internet or reported or whatever because there is just so much in question and, that has been very difficult for the family. jenna: how is the community holding up overall? >> well, i believe, you know, the pastors of the community have been doing what christian pastors do, apply the word of god to hurting people. and there has been a lot of prayer.
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a lot of speaking and reading of the word of god and singing of hymns that deliver jesus and, so that is carrying the community through well i believe. jenna: it is important to have a place to go to gather when something like this happens, pastor. thanks so much for joining us and helping us keep this story relevant and something we'll continue to watch. again for our viewers to know, authorities are asking families in the area, gregg, to look for areas where there is a line of trees and disturbed soil and they're not saying that this woman has died but that she is presumed dead and they're looking for more clues. we'll continue to watch the story. gregg: overturned soil. matted grass is another thing they're asking for. people should be on the lookout in that area. search teams meanwhile desperately looking for survivors at this hour. the death toll climbs in the italy cruise ship disaster. plus the shocking new audio recording between the
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jenna: it's a busy day for us and we don't even have the town hall meetings, grassroots valleys, foreign polices to deal with. that's for the guys on the campaign trail. they're going to take that into south carolina, with the republican race. we're glad you're with us, i'm jenna lee. gregg: i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. these attacks get sharper and sharper as the campaigners head back to the campaign trail. carl cameron is live in south carolina. what are the candidates doing after the big fox debate? >> reporter: trying to capitalize on their triumphs and minimize mistakes.
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a big, big debate last night and a lot happened and you're already feeling the reverberations on the campaign trail today. this morning mitt romney had an event earlier, florence, south carolina and throughout his intersection with voters not a mention of last night's debate. in fact reporters had to ask him afterwards how it went because by all accounts, the undefeated frontrunner got dinged up last night. he struggled with questions, he was grilled about his record as a businessman at bain capital, a private equity firm, he was asked to explain his flipflops on social issues, 5-7 years ago, and he was asked about the ongoing debate, if you will, in the republican party about the release of the tax returns, something that is not exactly a presidential issue where voters are concerned, and this morning, newt gingrich by contrast was touting what was by all accounts a very, very strong performance, with lots of ovations and great support from the crowd and casting himself as the
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only conservative alternative to mitt romney who can actually win the nomination and beat obama. newt gingrich: >> if you will help me become the nominee by helping me win on saturday, and i think it will be decisive, if we win on saturday i think i'll be the nominee. i think it's that straightforward. and i think i'm the only conservative, look the a the polling, i'm the only conservative who realistically has a chance to be the nominee. >> reporter: gingrich has taken several shots at rick santorum in the last s-frl days, pointing out that santorum last his last reelection to the pennsylvania u.s. senate seat and as a consequence gingrich says is in no position to beat either mitt romney or barack obama. gregg: i remember gingrich at one point predicted he was going to win iowa when he was in the polls and be the nominee and that didn't happen. we'll see what happens saturday. what is rick santorum doing to try to catch up to gingrich stp. >> two things. first of all he's angry at this sort of dismittal by
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newt gingrich, suggesting that mr. santorum cannot effectively compete against mitt romney and has said so. he's lashed back at gingrich pretty aggressively, pointing out that when he was speaker he was in many minds forced out of his speakership by conservatives who felt as though mr. gingrich had sort of betrayed the cause from '96 to 'nine # and santorum is aggressively going after mitt romney. the south carolina campaign is historically known for its measure of a candidate's character and integrity and rick santorum is argue thank mitt romney's refusal to denounce the superpacket that supports romney is really an indictment of romney's character. listen: >> this is a character issue. i mean, we have a lot of character issues, given mitt romney's, his ability to -- inability to hold a consistent policy on a whole host of issues but now when he's running for president of the united states, with ads out there that are absolutely certifiably false and he says they're okay,
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because it gives him political advantage, this is a huge character issue on mitt romney's part. he needs to step up and do the right thing and quite playing dirty politics. >> reporter: santorum is saying that mitt romney's character is an issue. miss principle objection to the superpacket ad is it reports in the ad that santorum would support voting right phos convicted felons, something that, in fact, mr. santorum acknowledges that he voted for under very prescribed circumstances in which any debt to society has been thoroughly paid. it is the case that that is the law in massachusetts, as well as in south carolina, but in the debate last night romney made the point that hest not support voting right phos convicted felons if guilty and been found guilty of violent crimes, a distinction that romney thinks might actually help him against santorum in conservative, tough on crime south carolina. gregg: carl cameron, who is looking a little thin, you ought to sit down and have a little lunch and grab a
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little grub in south carolina! >> take care! >> sweet barbecue sauce, lots of honey! jenna: getting a little of that goes a long way way! for more on the debate as the candidates fight for an negligence south carolina we want to give you an idea of what things are looking like in the state, here's the real clear politics average, you can see that romney has a solid lead, gingrich at 22 percent, paul and santorum tied for third, then rick perry trailing the pack. fox news senior political analyst brit hume is with us. you'd take a little barbecue if offered, right? >> i certainly would. jenna: who would turn it down. tell us about newt gingrich. do you think he is within striking stkabs of mitt romney? >> i think he is, and i think it's fair to note that that average does not include -- there are no polls we've seen since the debate and speaker gingrich, who's good at debates as a rule, did well last night, mitt romney was trying to get through the debate without making any big
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mistakes. he didn't shine but it didn't appear he made big mistakes, so it's not clear how much his position will be disturbed in the race. what gingrich needs to do is pick up support from people now backing rick santorum or rick perry and it remains to be seen whether he'll be able to do that. yuen jen how would he do that? >> you got a debate, then you attack him a little bit, i suppose, and try to marginalize him. he's now going around saying he'd be the most electable guy, that santorum couldn't be. santorum beat him in iowa, beat gingrich in iowa and when the final count was taken ended up beating him in new hampshire so gingrich finished fourth and fifth. that's not the strongest case i've heard that you're the electable candidate. jenna: you can't let the facts get in the way of a good stoefr, right! mitt romney's moment in the debate last night when he was asked about releasing his income tax returns, here's a look at that: >> i think i've heard enough
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from folks saying look, let's see your tax records, i have nothing in them to suggest there's any problem and i'm happy to do so. i sort of feel like we're showing a lot of exposure at this point, and if i become our nominee, and what's happened in history is people have released them in about april of the coming year and that's what i'd do. jenna: carl has told us this is not a presidential issue but looking at voters, is this something we want to know about the candidate, brit, before we get down the road any further? >> look, we want to know if they have anything to hide and eventually mitt romney is going to have to release his tax returns, as indeed he indicated he would do. he hasn't given a definitive date as to when he would do that. i don't think that the fact that somebody hasn't given a definitive date about something that they indicated as he said he'd be happy to do is much of a voting issue. it's a little awkward and he seemed a little hesitant about it, but i don't think people are going to vote for or against him on the basis
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of that issue. jenna: what are you watching for brit? we've heard time and time again two different schools of thought i guess. if you look at iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, if mitt romney wraps this up, that's it. then we've also heard on this show that, you know, it's going to take several weeks and months to determine the nominee, still from this point on. what school do you think is the most accurate at this point? >> well, i'm not sure i think either is. but what i would say about it is if you're going to try to knock off a frontrunner who has a nationwide organization and sort of a reasonably solid base of support, and that support will tend to grow if the frontrunner wins the first two contests as mitt romney has done, and you'll notice the national poll numbers were up from what they were before. so he's doing well and the race is about to get more national with time. somebody going to need to catch fire against him, really catch fire. sometimes you'll see this happen when a candidate will seize on an issue, sort of all of the sudden it begins to have a lot of appeal to voters and they begin to really take it to the other
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candidate on that issue. we haven't seen that yet. i think the bain attacks on mitt romney backfired. i think they hurt beginning arrive and the others who sroeupbd in, rick er perry in particular. so-so -- joined in, rick perry in particular. so far i haven't seen the burning issue arise. you had a contrasting performance, gingrich had a better night for sure than romney did but i'm not sure that's going to disturb the fundamentals of the race. jenna: we'll keep watching for the smoke, though, whether it's a flare-up or flareout. >> there you go. that's the right thing to watch for. jenna: thank you very much, always nice to talk to you, thank you, brit. >> thank you. gregg: a fox news alert. the italian media now reporting five more bodies have been found on board that capsized cruise ship, raising the official death toll to 11. divers have been searching the ship for passenger and crew, after blasting holes in the ship's hull to give them more access. before the latest grim news, 29 people aboard the cruise ship were still missing,
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including an american couple on the trip of a lifetime. in the meantime, shocking audiotape emerging, the doomed ship's captain can be heard making excuses as the italian coast guard repeated ly order him to return to the ship. we're going to have more on this disaster and what we hope will be seeing more survivors a bit later on happen "ing now". jen fox business alert, the jobs and economy taking center stage at the white house today, the president hosting a meeting of his council on jobs and competitiveness. if ci get that right! eager to show voters he's on top of their number one issue heading into the presidential election. peter barnes of fox business network is better at pronunsiation and covering these issues for us! tell us about this meeting at the white house. >> reporter: jenna, the ceos and union leaders have presented a third report to the president on job creation and competitiveness and the
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focus on this report is improving america's competitiveness in the global economy going forward. there's lot of familiar recommendations in this report, however, for example, investment more in education, job training, and research and development. we've heard that lots of times from the business community. rejuvenate manufacturing and energy. though the ceos are very adamant that, quote, we need to be all in on domestic energy production, while the nation transitions to cleaner sources of energy, calling for more oil and gas drilling and more coal mining on federal land, responsibly, of course. finally, the ceos recommend reforming regulation and lowering corporate tax rates jenna. jenna: that was the third report that you have there. how much of the reports has the administration actually adopted? >> well, the president and some of the ceos say that they -- that the administration has embraced a lot of this. but the report itself has its own report card, if you will.
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it says that there have been 60 recommendations in three reports from the ceos since june and that the administration has completed 14 actions t. calls them, actions, on just four of these recommendations. for example, extradited environmental review and permitting, of infrastructure projects, and an infrastructure dashboard on the internet, speeding up payment toss small business contractors for the government, those kind of things. jenna: peter pwa*upbs, we'll continue to watch t. thank you. >> thank you jenna. gregg: lindsey lohan going before a judge yet again, it has to do this time with the trouble star's probation. we'll have the very latest on that. >> big changes at our nation's border with mexico, the american border patrol is threatening punishment with a new zero tolerance policy. we'll tell you what that's all about. a live report, next.
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returning to court for the latest probation update, a judge ordering her to do cleanup at the county morgue, this probation is a as a result of separate drunk and driving and theft cases. in the meantime, polygamist sex leader warren jeffs keeping a firm grip on followers from inside his texas prison cell. former insiders saying he's imposing more rigid requirements, trying to impose his will on the community of sentimentalists mormons,. a prisoner on the loose in pennsylvania, police searching for jesus manuel gonzalez saying he escaped a correctional facility and drove away in a stolen car. gregg: all right. this just in. zero tolerance for illegal immigrants. the u.s. border control overhauling how it treats illegals across the border and saying goodbye to the old days of simply sending border jumpers back over
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without punishment. william la jeunesse, live from los angeles, with more. hi william. >> reporter: gregg, the policy is a work in progress. the border patrol is not ready yet to roll this out nationally but they do have a blueprint and it is very different from the past, when the standard border patrol procedure was catch and release, ilgrant crosses the border, gets caught, is fingerprinted, then is back on a bus to mexico within an hour, at the nearest port of entry. in the new policy, which is under review and being practiced if you will in to hisson, illegal immigrants are color-coded on a scale of 1-5 and based on a variety of factors, they are determined how they are deported, for example a child will be determined to the nearest city where arrested, repeat adult offenders will be boosed -- bus tpr-dtuesan, 500 miles to texas or california and released there. this is meant to disrupt the smuggling cycle, so they can't go back to the same guide or coyote, they have to then raise another $3000 crossing fee, so they can be out of commission for a year
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or more. now, those who crossed multiple times can be held in jail and prosecuted, those with criminal onses in the u.s. will also be prosecuted and get a lengthy jail term. some are flown to mexico city or back to central america. that way, smugglers will even be prosecuted by mexico, where the jails are really bad and the justice sem is -- system is underforgiving. the prosecution also means that a person can't apply for permanent residency in the u.s. for five years. now, this requires the cooperation of the u.s. attorney's office, because it does require a lot of resources. it's one of the things they're dealing with right now in several sectors like san diego. evidence suggests the policy is working, apprehensions in tucson, gregg, are down 80 percent from 600,000 a year to just 123,000. the economy, of course, has something to do with that, but so does the fact that we have 21,000 border patrol agents, and 600 miles of fence. so gregg, politically, what does this mean?
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well, no one is saying that the border is secure now but those who favor amnesty will say if trends continue, it is time to talk about comprehensive immigration reform. the administration can point to this success on the border to counter those critics of its interior enforcement policy of only deporting criminal aliens, not illegal immigrants, so do expect this to be an election issue. gregg: and a polarizing one quite often historically. william la jeunesse, thanks. jenna: listen to this, passengers on a flight over the atlantic ocean are told they're about to crash. gregg yikes. jenna: british air ways saying it was all a mistake. how do you make a mistake like that? julie banderas has that story for us. we have a lot of questions about that story. and we continue to watch the search and rescue and maybe now recovery mission for members aboard that cruise ship. the latest in the investigation, straight
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jenna: right now, dozens of fright been dollars passengers are demanding answers after a british air ways flight crew mistakenly announces that the plane is about to crash. obviously, the cabin went into panic mode as you can only imagine. julie, have you ever heard of a story like this? >> no, never. this is my worst nightmare. this is really any person's worst nightmare if board ago plane. passengers on board british airways flight 206 were actually half way from miami to london's heathrow airport when it was announced over the overhead not once but twice that their plane could be about to crash. that taped message, played by accident, prompting screams in the cabin as the message repeated. one passenger is quoted as
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saying it was about 3:00 a.m., an alarm sounded, and we were told we were about to land in the sea. i thought we were going to die. my wife was crying. and passengers were screaming. then they played an announcement telling us to just ignore the warnings, end quote. another passenger said, quote, when we landed, they were handing out letters apologizing, but it was the worst experience of my life. i don't think b.a. should get away with this. and that was an end quote. and most likely an apology isn't going to cut it, a b.a. spokesperson has released a statement and i'm quoteo he quoting, the cabin crew canceled the announcement immediately and thought to reassure customers that the flight was operating normally. we apologize to customers for causing them undue concern. i should also mention this, this isn't the first time that british airways passengers were practically scared to death in mid air, back in august 2010, a message that we may shortly need to make an emergency landing on water was played by mistake on a flight from
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heathrow to hong kong. >> >> reporter: somebody has to be held accountable. i don't know about you but i'm not getting on british airways. jenna: my heart is racing. i'm not a relaxed flyer. if that announcement started, would you ever trust what they had to say next? >> gregg: and jewel ehas a thing about flying. >> >> reporter: i had just trouble read thank script. my heart is pacing! i feel for them, seriously. gregg: i'm thinking a lot of lawsuits over negligent inflicks of emotional distress. absolutely it's dead bang liability. jenna: and turbulence -- i mean, julie and i are going to come up with a list that makes us nervous. gregg: that's sums of the risk. that's not negligence. you know that's going to happen. >> jenna: all right, thanks julie. gregg: a fox news alert, not the news that anguished families want to appear -- hear, the italian media reporting five more bodies have been found on board that capsized cruise ship,
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raising the death toll to one. this as black box recordings reveal maritime officials were furious at the captain after he apparently abandoned ship. peter golz joins us, act be director of the national transportation safety board. peter, thank you very much. clearly not the ntsb's jurisdiction, this happened in italy. who takes control of the investigation, what happens? >> there are actually two parallel investigations. one conducted by the equivalent of the italian coast guard, the marine casualty division, that's going on right now, then secondly, unlike the united states, there is an immediate criminal investigation, in which a magistrate is assigned. the captain is in jail, the magistrate is proceeding, on top of that, there's likely to be an e.u. investigation, as well as a u.n., through the international myrrh i time organization, the imo. so you're going to have at least four investigations. gregg: given what we know,
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and already the parent company is saying or at least the owner, the italian owner, is saying there is significant human error, and they seem to be pointing the direction at the captain here, i mean, given what we know, this looks like a clear case of negligence to you peter? >> i think so. the tapes that -- the transcripts that have been released are extraordinarily damming and there's evidence this is not the first time that the cruise line allowed its ship to take this course. close to the island. gregg: right. so there's a pattern of conduct here as well. i've got -- you've got plenty of witnesses, the black boxes. here's the thing. i mean, you walk into the bridge and it's like right out of star trek, right? i mean, there's all kinds of gadgets and gizmos and seasonar and radar that should have told them there's a pebble beneath you, much less a jagged rock, right? >> it is absolutely
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inexplicable, they have a combination of redundant equipment that should keep them on course. what happened in that -- on that bridge is going to be closely examined. and you know, there's likely, besides having multiple data recorders, there's likely to be video recordings as well. so they're going to find out, and boy, gregg, this salvage is going to take years. gregg: yeah, an they're going to try to patch the hole, upright it and so forth, but look, peter, the athens convention and international treaty limits passengers to recovery for damages of $75,000 for injury or death, unlesso this is the caveat -- unless you can prove recklessness, which is a much higher level beyond negligence. a real possibility here in your judgment? >> it is seldom reached in accidents, but in this case, given the comments of the company, given the actions of the crew, given the data that we have, i wouldn't be
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surprised. this is going to be a very expensive accident for casa and carnival. gregg: and it does real damage to the industry as well. we saw carn dal cruise's stock down 17 percent just yesterday, but wow, you know, the industry is going to take a hit. a lot of consumer confidence damaged here. they'll recover. peter goelz, former managing director of the ntsb, thank you. jenna: we're going to come back to politics, and the republicans' fight for south carolina. rick santorum has put a lot of time and effort on the local level, into trying to win saturday's primary. but could advertise grassroots campaign get pushed aside by expensive ad? we'rewe're going to take a closr look, coming up. fast. beautiful. totally customizable. finds top performg stocks -- in three clicks. quickly scans the market for new trading ideas.
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jenna: welcome back, everybody. we have this fox news weather alert, a blockbuster storm brewing in the northwest, possibly a foot of snow in seattle in just a few days, something we're watching from our extreme weather center. janice dean, winter is here. >> reporter: in the northwest, yes, absolutely. we have live pictures coming from seattle, and jenna, this is a big deal. i predict tomorrow we're going to see some impressive shots out of seattle and portland as seasonally they typically only see about 6 inches of snow, a foot of snow in the forecast in the next 48 hours, so winter weather advisories for much of washington and oregon through idaho, montana where we could
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see in excess of 2-3 feet of snow in the mountains. look at the future radar. bull's eye for parts of seattle down towards portland. portland, you won't get the same snow totals because we think there's going to be a mixture of rain and/or freezing rain. but still as the cold air sinks in, impressive snow totals for this area. take a look at seattle, down towards portland, 6-12 inches, 3-8 inches just around the portland area, and then in the mountains, man, it is going to be a skier's paradise. two to three feet for wednesday, one to two feet northeast of boise. so a lot of folks are wondering where has winter been? unfortunately, it's just right across the northwest. one quick mention, we have the potential for severe weather across the south, so that's another story we're going to be following throughout the afternoon. jenna: j.d., thank you. >> reporter: you bet. gregg: shaking hands and kissing babies, an age-old political
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tradition, to be sure, but candidates can really have a hard time gaining traction when their ground game is overshadowed these days by the very expensive television ads and online campaigns. joel sawyer joins us, former executive director of south carolina's republican party, a member of the huntsman campaign. i was reading a story that says rick santorum is winning the ground game, he's been seeing everybody, and he's been in all 46 counties. but you look at his poll numbers, and he's not, he may be winning the ground game, but that's not winning, is it? >> no, it's not. i mean, but, you know, you've got to give rick santorum a lot of credit. it's been hard to go to a county republican meeting in south carolina without tripping over the guy. he's invested a lot of time in the grassroots. but one thing you have to remember is there's no party registration, and the population of people that votes here is much, much higher than new hampshire or iowa. there's about a half a million
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people that are going to vote in south carolina. so you can have the best ground game in the world, but at the end of the day, this is a tv state, an air war state, and i think that's what it's going to be decided on. gregg: could mitt romney win by running well in the more moderate precincts along the coastline while his opponents split up the vote in the upper county, the locations of greenville and spartanburg? >> yes. i think that's certainly a scenario, and, you know, even not just a regional basis but a statewide basis, and you see this in the other primary states, too, mitt romney benefits from a crowded field. he's been running for president longer than anybody else, but he's pulling anywhere from a quarter to a third of the electorate, so it's clear there's a very significant number of republicans looking for an alternative to mitt romney. as long as there are so many people in the race, it's hard to coalesce around that one single alternative. gregg: yeah. as i mentioned in the
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introduction, you were with the huntsman campaign who called it quits yesterday and offered up a rather tepid, at least "the washington post" called it an awkward and brief endorsement of mitt romney. and then we noticed huntsman urging the candidates who were still in the race, stop the personal attacks. well, you know, joel, isn't that a little hypocritical since it wasn't long ago that huntsman was referring to romney the following ways: he's completely out of touch, romney is unelectable because he lacks a core, romney is the perfectly-lubricated weather vein? i mean, look, isn't huntsman guilty of the things he's now encouraging other candidates not to do? >> i'm going to let governor huntsmans' words stand on their own, but there's been some legitimate questions raised about romney's record in the past. so i think that's something all these candidates are in the race, none of them are perfect, and i think it's perfectly fair to --
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gregg: joel, if you're telling me that huntsman was right and he stands by, you stand by his words that romney is unelectable -- >> i'm not, hey, i'm not speaking for governor huntsman. i'm speaking for myself, and as i said when i started that answer, his words are going to have to stand on their own. gregg: all right. joel sawyer, thank you very much for being with us, appreciate it. >> yeah, sure thing. thank you. jenna: fox news alert, new details on the shifting threat posed by al-qaeda and some new warnings about the growing danger by iran. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington with the latest on all of this. >> reporter: thank you, jenna, and good morning. at the policy center here in washington this morning, the discussion by current and former administration officials was defined by the affiliates of al-qaeda's officials in yemen and somalia. here's the former national security adviser to president obama. >> 2012 is announcing itself as the year that iran is going to have to be dealt with one way or
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the other. >> reporter: the alleged iranian-backed plant relying on ago arbabsiar to assassinate the saudi envoy to the u.s. was cited as an example of the growing connection between drug cartels and terrorist organizations. in addition to more evidence that iran will use terrorism as a tool for retaliation. >> hezbollah has not attacked american interests in recent years but has lots of plans on the library shelf for doing that in the event we got into a confrontation with iran. >> reporter: and the secretary of homeland security was asked specifically about the recent arrest of a lebanese suspected of alleged ties to hezbollah in iran on friday the u.s. embassy in thailand issued an emergency message warning of possible threats against american citizens, and a similar warning was issued by the israelis. >> we've seen some l activities that are in open source,
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obviously, now that seem a bit irrational but can fit into an overall picture. >> reporter: so without going into detail, the homeland security secretary said this morning that these incidents, what we saw with that american who may have been part of a plot to take down the saudi envoy here in the united states, also these alleged threats in thailand, these should be seen as part of a pattern and not a series of random threats. jenna? jenna: that's an interesting headline there, catherine. we're going to dig a little deeper. catherine, thank you for that. some surprising news about that computer virus that destroyed several centrifuges in iran and may have set their nuclear program back substantially. "the new york times" out with a report that says israeli testing facilities or a testing facility may have built an iranian-style centrifuge center just to test the computer virus and specifically target iran. it's the strongest evidence so far that israelis may have been responsible for the virus. and this comes as we get news
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that two israeli web sites were cyber attacked just recently, so one of the questions we're asking, is in the face of war in the future when we're talking about conflicts? joining us is major general dale myrose, and, well, general, you hear cyber warfare, and you think, oh, that's something distant, it's going to effect my laptop, not something that's going to effect me, but i was reading this article in "forbes" that says this, that it's hard to think of cyber warfare as potentially violent and life threatening, but the risk is real. how so? how would you talk to us about that risk? >> hi, jenna, good to see you today. in this particular case, it was a very low technology attack. in essence, they flooded the sites to shut 'em down. but it could have been anywhere from propaganda, it could have been retribution, or it could have been a test just to see how certain entities, organizations react to these kinds of attacks. jenna: when you're talking about
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these attacks, could they come from a group of private individuals, or do they really look like government-sponsored attacks x is there a way to tell? >> well, in this most instances there's not a way to tell except with a lot of cyber dna, and that cyber dna takes time. the ones that you're referring to that happened in israel just a couple days ago, that investigation's still going on. but that could have been perpetrated by anybody because it really was a low technology type attack. jenna: where do you see this going, this whole cyber warfare situation? >> well, i think that we're going to start seeing more and more of these things as the tool of choice. because it is high-value payback, but it is really low risk, you know? the chance that someone is actually going to suffer the consequence for carrying out either a propaganda, a retribution or maybe even a trial run of some future operation is, is really the key, the element of this whole thing. jenna: it was really fascinating to read more about this stuxnet
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virus that everybody's talking about, the one that supposedly went into these iranian centrifuges and basically gave the picture to everyone looking at the plant was fine, so the virus actually impersonated what normal activities would look like while doing this damage. it's just extraordinary to think about that. i just wonder how good are we, generally, how good is the united states when it comes to cyber were fare? -- warfare? are we in the top three in the world? do we need some work on this? where do we stand? >> well, there's always a lot of work to do, but what you described is the new threat in the cyber business. we call it the advanced percent threat -- persistent threat. it's an infiltration where someone looks to allow the host network to continue to operate as normal and then try to steal either things of value or money or secrets from that host. the united states has been working on this for a long time, and we are among the best in the
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world. but that by no means means that we can anticipate everything, and it's an area that requires continued significant work and investment. jenna: just a quick final thought on that, investment. we're in this time of incredible austerity in our country, we're cutting defense spending, and i just wonder what kind of resources we need to make sure we stay up-to-date on this situation? >> well, jenna, the thing to remember is the reason we're vulnerable in cyberspace is because we rely on it to do so many things whether it's commerce, defense, entertainment, all of those kinds of things. and so it's a matter of you cannot afford not to informs. jenna: that's a good place to leave it there. major general dale meyerrose, look forward to having you back. >> thanks, jenna. gregg: imagine this. your home alarm goes off, police don't show up. where this is happening and why. ♪
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jenna: right now some new information on a few stories we're keeping an eye on from inside our control room, and we're going to start off with the hong kong-based company announcing it will no longer release a steve jobs action figure. this is something they said they had in production for a while. the company got immense pressure from apple lawyers and from jobs' family, of course. steve jobs passed away in october of last year. the queen of southern cuisine revealing she has type ii die leitz. she's -- diabetes. she says she's coming up with new recipes, so we'll watch for that. and betty white turns the big 9-0. she has a star-studded tv special to mark the occasion. we wish her well and a very happy birthday. gregg: she's so funny. want to tell you about this new police policy setting off safety concerns in san jose, california. cops say they will no longer respond to home burglar alarms
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unless they believe it's really necessary. how in the world do they know that? maybe claudia cowan knows the answer, she's live in san francisco. hi, claudia. >> reporter: well, you know, for many people burglar alarms are the first line of defense. the problem, police say, is they are burdened by thousands of false alarms, and now san jose is joining the list of cities who are saying, no more. last year there were more than 12,000 burglar alarms in san jose, 98% of them were bogus, costing the city about $600,000 in staffing and tying up officers who could have been out on other calls. >> 113 police reports were generated as a result of all those calls, so only 113 were actually involved some type of criminal activity or some type of damage. >> reporter: and out of those 12,000 alarm calls, there were just two arrests. now police won't respond unless a break-in has been verified by a witness or surveillance system or there's evidence of a crime
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like broken glass. officials say they've tried fining repeated alarm trippers, but that hasn't helped, and the 1100 officers will be better able to protect the city's one million residents. the new policy not going over well for some. industry leaders say it amounts to inviting would-be robbers to san jose and says homeowners could get hurt. >> you could have people who are going to increase their weapons. they respond to their own alarm systems, or they end up suffering larger losses. >> reporter: statistics may provide some measure of comfort in other cities where police ignore more most burglar alarms. police say they have not seen a sharp increase in home burglaries. if police get a call from someone who's at home while the alarm is going off, a call police will respond to. gregg: that's good to know.
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claudia cowan, thanks very much. jenna: for north of san francisco is the town of nome, alaska, and it's been cut off from the rest of the world by ice, and today there's some good news. the ice now helping crews deliver life-saving supplies. we're going to have a live report on that just ahead. when you have diabetes... your doctor will say get smart about your weight. that's why there's new glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announcer ] new glucerna hunger smart.
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gregg: much-needed help finally arriving for the frozen city of nome, alaska. a russian tanker fulfilling its mission, delivering more than a million gallons of fuel to that stricken city. dan springer is following this story in seattle. dan? >> reporter: yeah, gregg, it's been perhaps one of the most challenging fuel deliveries in history, and finally the fuel is flowing in nome. it started yesterday about 5:00, just before sundown and will
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continue until all 1.3 million gallons are offloaded. it could take anywhere between two and five days, but the word i got this morning is so far, so good. there are two hoses running the length of seven football fielders from the russian tanker to a storage in nome more than a half mile from the ship. that hose iseavy and is laying right on top of the iced-in nome harbor. safety and the environment have been concerns. yesterday it was determined the ice was thick enough to handle this operation. they had to wait for the harbor to refreeze around the tanker. and a spill plan had to be approved by the coast guard. there are workers right now walking the length of those hoses every 30 minutes looking for leaks. this was made possible by a 5,000-mile journey that started in russia in mid december, said to be the only vessel in the world that could power through the ice, load it up with diesel fuel in south korea, then gasoline in dutch harbor, then with the coast guard's only ice breaker giving an escort, had to
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go through hundreds of miles of ice two feet thick. if it wasn't for this delivery, the city of nome would have been completely out of fuel by march or april and would have had to fly it in, about a few thousand gallons at a time costing residents up to $10 a gallon, locals obviously relieveed. they got into this mess when a massive storm hit the bering sea back in early november right around the time they were supposed to get the barge in for their fall fuel delivery. that prevented the barge from getting there, and now they are finally getting the fuel they need to get through the winter. gregg: wow, what a story. a rescue, if you will. all right, dan springer, thanks very much. jenna: speaking of rescues, a race against time in italy as people continue to search for more than a dozen of these passengers still missing on this cruise ship. remember it's dark in italy now. shocking new details out about the captain, and we'll have that coming up for you. wake up!
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jenna: down in virginia and maryland, and the problem with delivering a hamburger, you know, it can getting soggy, so y had to develop some technology to make sure it stays hot and perfect so you get your whopper at home. what do you think? gregg: if it's a good enough burger, i'll even have it medium warm. jenna: you can't microwave a hamburger like a pizza. gregg: my favorite is in and out. five guys is really good. gustavo? >> five guys. jenna: okay. it's a $2 delivery fee, but they're trying it out. could come to a town near you. gregg: if it works for pizza, it'll do it for
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