factor. no cautel. remember the spin always staps right here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> controversy on the campaign trail after newt gingrich's ex-wife sits down for a tell-all interview. >> no, no. that is not a marriage. >> the former speaker's daughters will join me live to respond to the news media in this race. >> he's one of the most talk about governors in america. >> stop the bleeding by stopping the spending. >> and i go one-on-one with new jersey governor chris christie. he promised to make an unconvention allen doors --

unconventional endorsement. and herman cain delivered. he's here to explain. >> modern liberals are just, i think, frankly, totally off the deep end. >> and we have the highlights from a morning show after newt gingrich is accused of playing the race card in south carolina. our count down to election day continues. hannity starts right here right now. >> and there was some real bombshell, revelations on the campaign trail, including texas governor's rick perry's decision to drop out of the ways for the nomination. this morning a very emotional governor perry delivered that major news as he announced his endorsement for an ole rival. watch thanks i have come to the conclusion there is no viable path forward for me in this 2012 campaign. therefore, today i am suspending my campaign and endorsing newt gingrich for president of the united states. >> now that endorsement is likely to dramatically shift the dynamic of this primary contest

less than 48 hours voters head to the policy in south carolina. a new poll shows former speaker of the house, newt gingrich, has taken the lead. the former speaker is receiving 33% of the vote. mitt romney is getting 31%. meanwhile today the gingrich campaign was also forced to deal with a very personal matter after the former speaker's ex-wife, mary ann, came forward on abc news. the speaker said he refuses to say anything negative about his former wife. instead he has photos of people who know him best to discuss his character. i am joined by two of those people, jack ski curb man and jackie gingrich glovers, guys, welcome to the show, thanks for being with us. >> thank you, sean. >> earlier tonight your father was asked about this in a debate setting, and franklin said before the last fox debate on

monday that he had never seen an instance with a candidate got a standing ovation. this was an extended standing ovation, excoriating the media for their taudry desire to go after this. i think the divorce was 14 years ago, i don't know what it was, but to do this on the eve of the debate and i want to get your reaction. >> you are so right. people of south carolina and the people in that room in particular, and i'm sure across this country watching that debate knew that their heart the reality that the american people deserve to have a president such as our father. he responded and he brought up the fact, know, what the american people deserve to have real questions in the debate, not things that are not pertinent to the current situation at hand which is what is important to the american people, which is jobs, economy, national security. he was loved and reinforced by everyone in that room.

>> yeah. what do you think? >> i think she's exactly right. a couple things. first of all, it was a very direct question and he answer it had directly, which i think is very good. point is they started off on a presidential debate with a personal story from over a decade ago. and we all know that table things happen in terms of divorce. divorce is very painful always for everybody. he tried very hard in that marriage and it didn't work out. reality is he is really running not from his personal record but on his professional record which he is the only candidate, including president barack obama, who actually balanced the national budget four years and reformed welfare and cut taxes and cut spending. he has an incredible record of accomplishment. >> let me ask you both this. i have known your father a lot of years and i asked him recently in the course of this primary process because he would a book about god and america. he's done a dvd on the pope.

he's talked a lot about his religion faith. i want to play an wants where he talked about how he changed over the years. >> being married to has helped a great deal. and having grandchildren, a grandfatherly view of world is somehow different. i can't explain it but i bet every person watching who is a grandparent knows what i am talking about. it gives you a very different perspective on life. and i think candidly the recognition that i had of acceptance into the catholic church, the feeling of be longing to the church has been a very, very comforting, very reconciling part of life. >> and i have asked him also on radio, he said he's 68, he's more mature, he's found his faith, he's a very person than he was 14 years ago. you guys are his daughters. did you see the change in him? >> i absolutely have. a couple of things. he's been very open about his

past mistakes. he hasn't tried to cover up the fact he has made terrible mistakes but he's been very forthright. he's asked for god's forgiveness. he's reconciled himself with god. people understand that none of us are perfect. rick perry today in his endorsement gave an eloquent speech about he wasn't the perfect person but he was the right person to lead this nation at that time and i think that really resonates with people. it's not about being perfect but who can lead at this time in our nation. >> jackie or kathy, which one of you were the janitor at 13? >> well, the truth of the matter is that i actually had the job first because, as you know, sean, i happen to be the elder sister, and my sister, she picked up the gauntlet, if you will. >> constantly following her footsteps. >> there was a news report that said that your dad, by allowing this to happen, may have violated the child labor laws. they actually -- i'm not making this up.

the u.s. department of labor, an assistant administrator for policy said that the child labor laws now and in effect in the 1980s, you were not allowed to hold a janitorial job. and i was washing dishes. odd better job than me. >> i know. now you know we need government regulations so we can both learn to work and the work ethic. >> we were janitors in a church. yes, it was in a church, we were being blessed and praying while we were at it. >> let me ask you one last question. a lot of issues come up when your dad uses the term that barack obama is the food stamp president. since he's become president 12 million more americans are in need of food stamps. the new york times has a piece preaching division in south carolina. is it that you can't tell the truth, that under barack obama food stamp recipient numbers have gone up dramatically? >> i think you are right. it is a fact. the fact is that under dad's

presidency, he wants everyone to move up, to have more opportunity, to have more jobs. that's the way you involve that job. it's about creating opportunity. >> and he went so far as to say you should get a job, get a better job and then you should own the job and i think that's the american dream. >> thank you both for being with us. i know it's probably hard when your dad is under fire and i'm sure he probably appreciates you being here. i think his opening remarks tonight, though, will make a lot of news. thank you both for being with us. >> thanks, sean. >> our pleasure. >> and coming up, he fired up lawmakers at his state of the state address tuesday. coming up next, new jersey governor chris christie will join me live with more on what he is calling the new jersey come back. of course, i'll and him the 2012 predictions and would he think about accepting the role as vice president. also, herman cain unveiled who he is endorsing for president today. his unconventional endorsement.

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here is how he respond today. >> that they wanted to spend over a billion dollars last year we didn't have. none of them were concern aboutic fiscal responsible, the ones concerned about it today. but when we talk about giving you your money money back, then they want to be fiscally responsible. it's like your money is stuck in their dead, cold hands and you are trying to pry it out of there and they won't let it out because they don't want you to take. for god's sake, don't take it, we can spend it better than you can. bologna, no one can spend it or invest is better than you. >> he has been hard at work on the campaign trail stumping for gop frontrunner mitt romney, the former massachusetts governor. he joins me in studio, new jersey governor chris christie. how are you? >> i'm fine. how are you? >> all these viral videos of you in town halls i don't think i have seen a politician have as

much fun as you. >> they don't pay me enough to have fun. this is good stuff. i look at a state like new jerseycy, a blue state, took it over with $13 billion in deficit, highest tax rates in america, worst business environment in america, and i say listen, this is a perfect job for me. we have no place to go but up if we have the guts to do the hard things and over the last two years we have done the hard things, we've held the line on taxes and now we are going to cut taxes. >> i've watched you closely and rudy giuliani was like this in new york and you go right at the media, you are at a town hall, i'll let you speak. remember the moment when you guy accused of you planting questions. and who are you? i didn't plant you obviously. you have this, go out to town hauls and be confronted with tough questions. >> i think the political strategists that a lot of us

listen to are always cautioning you to play is safe, keep things small and that's not my attitude. this is who i am this, is how i live my life, i want to be aggressive and i want to tell people what i really think. especially now, sean, i think you know this, people just want the truth. they know some of the truths are ugly and they aren't looking for you to make them feel good by telling them what they want to hear, they want to hear the truth and hear a plan about how to get out of the hole where we have gone in our country. >> and you remember the story where we had tens of billions of dollars of wealth leaving your state. have you been able to stop that bleeding? >> i think we have. we will continue it by cutting income taxes. they have one of the highest income tax rates in america and we are going to cut them 10% over the next three years. i love the democrats who come back at me and say no, no, governor, you can't do that because it wouldn't be responsible. they only care about being response which you believe your money if you poured it into the black hole in trenton and they

get to spend it. it's not right. we have to continue to be aggressive will the things we believe n i tell my staff all the time, we are better at doing the things we do, but we are also right. and there's no substitute for being right and there's no reason about being shy about saying we are right about these issues and they are wrong. >> a lot of confidence in you, scott walker another one, and nicky haley is another one, the republicans have a pretty deep and strong bench and if your state is successful and ohio turned around, wisconsin, walker went from a $3.6 billion budget deficit per capita, the highest in the country, to a couple hundred million dollars surplus. >> listen, the republican governors around the country are doing the job that needs to be done, which is first to correct the excesses of the last eight years before we got there. mostly by democratic governors that we replaced. and then to put ourselves on a path to growth. the way the country becomes great again is to grow, grow new

businesses, grow new jobs and give people more of their own money to do that and have the dream that we want our children and grandchildren to have. one you didn't mentioned that we should, suzannea martin necessary -- martinez in new mexico. >> i agree. a lot of people wanted you to jump into the race. >> flattering but no regrets. it wasn't the right time in my heart to do this. i love to be the governor of new jersey. i'm thrilled to the the governor and i think we are making a difference. we can set an example of what can be done if you be tough and stand up. >> we have to take a break. when we come back i have to ask you the predictable question. if asked, will you serve? don't answer. >> i won't. i won't answer. >> i better not tick you off. i've seen what you have done to some of the other. >> get red did, you never know. >> you are a jets fan like i am. i love mark sanchez. can you throw like mark sanchez?

>> no, i can't throw like mark sanchez. >> we will see what he has. he promised us his unconventional endorsement. herman cain is here and he will explain. first governor christie throws us out. >> you got it.

>> governor christie is doing something very rare in politics these days, he's actually following through on the prom he is made. >> a legislature is overwhelmingly democratic but we have made accomplishments. we've made small government smaller, we've made is smarter and less expensive for people. >> new jersey governor chris christie is making waves for his no nonsense report. >> i have to say things directly. the people in new jersey know that's a complete pile of garbage. get the hell off the beach and get out. >> this is the crap i have to hear. and nobody in new jersey is going to have to wonder if i am on an issue. >> that was a look at the garden state governor's movie trailer previewing his state of state address. the man leading the new jersey come back, governor chris christie. you supported mitt romney for

president. you are campaigning for him. >> i am. >> and tightening in the poll. it's indicative of where the race seems to be right now. why do you think things are tight? we just found out he also got edged out in iowa but he had a great showing in iowa. >> yeah. >> good showing, expected to win in new hampshire. is this tighter than people think? >> it will always tighten up. when you get down to what is a two or three person race now, it's always going to get tighter. republicans are really focused on trying to pick the best person to defeat the president. so they aren't going to decide until very late who that best person is. i believe in the end they will decide it's governor romney. but what i will tell you, i think they are doing a lot of shopping and making sure. i was on a telephone town hall for governor romney in south carolina last night and two of the callers said to me, governor, i'm really torn between pitt and newt gingrich. tell me why i should vote for mitt romney. >> what i said to them, we need

somebody in the white house. >> that's not from new jersey or i'll find out where you live. >> we didn't do that, not yet. but what i said we need someone in the oval office who has cutetive experience both as a governor and in the private sector. we've had a legislator for the past three years. my experience, while they are nice people, they generally do not know how to use executive power most effective. we need a president that will go in there and take this thing which the throat. >> do you think he even had legislative experience? he voted president, the minute he got in the senate he started running. >> he got elected. >> fair enough. this is an obvious question. and i know you have given an answer before. you do know that you will be on any candidate's short list, whether the nominee is governor romney. i think any candidate that wins you will be on hair short list. you know that. >> yes. >> so where are you now in the thought process? do you give it any thought at all? if that thought comes governor, we need you, your country needs

you, we need your strength, will you serve? >> i don't give it any thought now because in the end i have no control over it. one person, one man is going to make that decision. and if i get the call, what i have said to everybody is i'll listen. but i love this job, sean. and i have a hard time imagining myself leaving it. that's why i didn't leave it to run for president. i find it hard to imagine that i would leave it to run for vice president but i love my country enough and i love my party enough that if the nominee of my party picked up the phone and called, i think i owe it to myself and to my country to listen and that's what i'll do. >> i think that's the best answer. and i think senator rubio made a mistake by saying no outright and they keep asking him again, and i was entering viewing him and i said don't answer anymore. you may feel compelled you can better serve there. you know, it really bothers me, the big story -- a couple stories came out today. they i attacking newt gingrich with a wife he divorced 13, 14

years ago. governor romney, they are attacking him, he said he paid about the 15% range. that doesn't include in all lakely hood it was taxed before at the higher rate so it's the second bite of the appear he, if you will, the government gets on it. and this whole abc report he has money in the cayman islands. what's the implication? that he's dodging taxes and he's putting money where the drug cartel people put their money. i find it so offensive the way the media is covering this race. i wanted to get your thoughts ton. >> as hundred charges we have started to get used to it. this is the treatment we get. i got that treatment during the mainstream media during my campaign and i still get it today. i think it's the way you respond to it. what i said this morning, and i hope that the governor romney says this, he should not apologize for his success. this is a guy who was not given anything. he went and built a company that built other companies that created jobs, and he made a

great fortune from that. that's what everybody in america should dream to be able to do with the thing they are passionate about. i think when we get that stuff from the media we should go right back at them and say i do not apologize for any of this. everything i did was more than with the american dream. and i'm not going to apologize for my success and that's what i think mitt romney should do. >> the friday before this past monday's debate, karl krauthammer said he needs an answer for that. i thought he answered it better than he did monday night. there is a tendency to get defensive in moments like this. governor romney, i know him. >> like him, i like his family, they are nice people. sometimes i wish he would just get mad and get mad like you sometimes. why doesn't he get mad and show that passion? i know he believes it or else he wouldn't put up with all this crap he's put up with. >> i've got tone know him very well the last few months. he has that fire within him.

he cares so deeply and passionately about this country. i just think some people by nature are more reserved and i think governor romney by his nature you are is more reserved but i don't think people should mistake that for a lack of passion and a lack of intensity. let me tell you, sean, you know, you have watched she's fellows up-close, and women, it's hard. >> no, it's more brutal than anybody knows. >> let me ask you, things have gotten -- it started to iowa, romney's super pac did a number on newt gingrich. gingrich got mad, he's fighting back. there's now ads he's running rud we will get into that later in the program tonight, but you worried that there might be residual resentment at the end of this process. will you support whoever the winner is? >> of course. >> and do you think the candidates may have residual resentments? >> candidates always have residual resentment but they get over it. >> they get over it? >> they will because we are professionals. >> and you will unite?

>> absolutely because the alternative is four more years of barack obama. that's unacceptable for america. we will get over it. remember all the people who were arguing four years ago, sean that's correct hillary clinton and barack obama, it's such a schism, they will never get together. they got together because they wanted to win. republicans want to win this time. sure there are scars, there are always scars from campaigns, but i think people like rick san and ron paul and perry, they will take a deep breath and get behind governor romney when he's the nominee. >> you are sure on that? >> i'm absolutely positive. i'm not saying it will be won. there will be fights and battle and ups and downs over the course of the next few months but of because it is a long process but i am absolutely convinced mitt romney will be the nominee. >> but you will support whoever it is. >> of course. >> and you will help bring the state of new jersey into the

republican column? >> listen, sean, we will do the best we can. >> i remember jed bush was asked by george w, i don't have to worry about florida, do i? >> well, he did in the end. >> he wanted to give his brother a little -- >> that's good sibling rivalry, i think. make him sweat pour it. >> it's always good to see you. don't be a stranger. >> i won't. >> i appreciate you being here and appreciate your outspokenness. >> you don't want to miss what is coming up. when you have tough pain, do you want fast relief?

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are still in charge. that's who i am endorsing. >> that was former presidential candidate, businessman herman cain making his, quote, unconventional endorsement. that was earlier today. here now to explain all of this and the decision is the man himself, herman cain. sir, you are a great american. welcome back to the program. >> thank you, sean. happy to be with you. >> you know, we used to be friends, and i mean used to in the past tense because you are sitting here on the set. [laughter] >> are we still friends? >> unconventional. that's unconventional. >> here is why i did it that way, sean. i want to continue to inspire the people of this people not to lose interest in this primary campaign. because as you know, coming out of new hampshire, the voter turnout for the republicans was down 24,000 voters. a lot of it is due to the negativity that's been going on, all of the personal things that they dig up to try to bring

people down. one of my objectives is to continue to keep people inspired. that's why i endorsed the american people, we, the people, to remind them that what they do counts in not only the primary, but in the general elections. >> let me tell you, and this goes a little deeper too, in as much as the senate race matters. conservatives taking over the senate, maintaining a majority in the house, making sure obama is a one-term president, and i wish president obama the best. he can go work with former president jimmy carter, build all the habitat for humanity house he is wants, that would be great for him, and having rebuild his image as being a failed president. all that is fine u went through all of this. interestingly, since you have gotten out of the race, we haven't had a daily barrage of attacks against you. a lot of surprise about this. now the most recent things have happened. number one, they are saying,

well, mitt romney has these offshore accounts in the cayman islands. he only paid 15%, 15% rate. that's the second bite of the apple. newt gingrich's money from 13, 14 years ago has come out and given an interview. why is the media seeking an interview with an ex-wife, you know, from 14 years ago? and she's already discussed this on the record. what's the point? and you've been through this. what do you think is going on and what did you think of newt's hitting back the media so hard tonight? >> let's start with mitt romney. mitt romney should be proud that he made a lot of money. that's what america is all about. the only reason the media wants to drag this out about how much money he made, where are his tax returns; that they want to have another nugget for the class warfare thing to make people envy us. really, it's none of their business. as far as the thing with newt, i

happen to believe, i have no facts, that it was carefully orchestrated and planned because newt was surging and still surging in south carolina. i believe they had this little thing on the back burner so they could pull it out to try to slow down his momentum. he's surging here in south carolina, and i happen to believe that. now, the part -- the part of the debate i saw earlier tonight, newt took it to them on this very issue and the audience game him a standing ovation. i told them -- >> an extended standing ovation t went on forever, the standing ovation. >> it was unbelievable, and i was so thrilled because this ths despicable to bring it up, as newt said. you could tell he was irritated but he handled it well. american people are sick of that, sean. they don't care about that. it is nothing but a big distraction. >> at different times the race

has gotten contentious. newt was mad we ads run by romney, he's now hitting back. he said he didn't want to run that campaign. you've been the victim of pretty -- of high level of smears and attacks. let me show you the latest ad by the gingrich campaign and get your reaction. >> mitt romney has a history of false attacks and negative campaigning. ask mike huckabee. >> mitt romney is running a very desperate and, frankly, a desperate campaign. mitt romney will do anything to become president. anything. maybe that explains all his flip-flops. >> i don't know how to respond to some of it because his position may change tomorrow. >> you have to be a pretty good actor. >> mitt romney's desperate attacks and flip-flops. what's the bat tom line? ask mike huckabee. >> if a man is this dishonest to get a job, how will he be on the job? >> i want to get your reaction.

is this fair game; it to be expected, is it good in the end because it makes the candidate stronger or is it bad for the process? >> sean, that is bad for the process. there is a culture amongst people who work campaigns all their lives that says negativity works, and it does. it helps to try to paint a cloud over whoever is being attacked. but here is where it doesn't work. it doesn't build up the person doing the attacks. and the american people, based upon the ones i talked to a lot since i'm no longer a candidate, they are sick of this stuff. >> yeah. >> we know what's wrong. what the people are looking for is how do we fix it? this is what they are not hearing enough of. >> is it fair to say that barack obama is the food stamp president? i'm going to play a segment in a minute about an exchange that took place on the today show about this. is that a fair characterization considering there are 12 million more people now on food stamps than when barack obama got elected?

>> i think it's fair to say that obama is the food stampches president, the failed economy president, the failed stimulus package military, the gut the military president. all of that is fair. liberals hate the facts and they don't like to hear the facts. being they try to spin it and say it is an attack on him as a black man. no, it's not. it is basically criticism of him as a failed president in so many ways and it is intended, to say that that comment is not appropriate is intended to be a distraction. i think that is appropriate to say that. >> all right. herman cain, unconventional, i didn't pick it and you didn't bring me in the loop. the problems, we got to work this out. >> sean, you must admit it is noble to try to inspire the american people. >> no, i agree. you know what? i want every american working that wants a job. i want more people contributing to the system. i want to stop demonizing those who work hard and punishing

success and igniting the flames of class enviable warfare. that i want to stop. time to check in with greta. a sneak people. why are you snickering now? i'm sorry the packers lost. you are wearing giant blue tonight, i see. >> what are you talking about? was there a game? >> the giants and 49ers, it's going to be the giants and the patriots in the super bowl. >> i don't know. my husband says the ravens. anyway, we have a big show. speaker gingrich and brit hume, as well as the latest on the cruise ship. very troubled waters tonight. a bad storm is coming down in the area where the cruise ship is. that and more back to you. >> in 18 short minutes, let not your heart be troubled. the great, great, great american panel is next. we were delighted.

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american panel, he's a fox news contributor, jacques is back. and he's the crazy guy on the red eye show that gets huge ratings, fox news correspondent -- you do. congrats. >> they never tell me anything. i'm a glorified intern. >> okay. >> good news for me. >> good to see you, bill. thank you for being here. letter. the exchange. food stamp president, newt gingrich. keep in the back of your mind, when did they ever do this to barack obama over bill ayers. never happened. watch this exchange. >> are you intentionally playing the race card to win votes? >> you know modern liberals are just, i think, frankly, totally off the deep end -- >> i'm asking, mr. gingrich, about the nature you are of the way you are characterizing president obama as the food stamp president. >> right. >> go ahead. >> i'm trying to make a point to you which is when conservatives care about the poor and

conservatives offer ideas to help the poor and conservatives suggest the poor would rather have a paycheck than the food stamps, the very liberals who have failed them at places like the new york times promptly scream racism because they have no defense. >> obama's policy we have 12 million more people on food stamps, his programs have failed. he stated a fact. and i don't think she even heard a conservative speak by the sounds of that. >> have you ever seen an n get so passionate about something? >> no. >> and where were they before. >> they never asked him about that. this he hammering bain capital. the cayman islands. >> i like the cayman islands things because i think i picked my president and he's a pirate."

i love pirate. >> let me go to jacques. >> wait a minute. >> in barack obama's book, i know people are going to like what i'm going to do, but i'm going to do it anyway, he admits he used cocaine. do you remember anyone grilling him about cocaine use, who was your dealer works did you get it from, where did you get it from. in this environment, attacking every republican on every wart from 15, 20 years ago, why not ask him about his relationship with bill ayers and his drug use s that fair? >> on the one hand you don't want to talk about somebody's marriages years ago but you want to explore -- >> no, i want the media to be fair. >> i president of the united states, a, is not running against the media, number one. he's running against whoever the republicans will eventually nominate. >> why didn't ann curry and him about his coke use. >> why not when the debate took place this week when they had a debate on martin luther king's

birthday, an day a country examines its values and where it is, why didn't any republican candidate say anything meaning about someplace. >> i can. >> not you. why didn't any of the candidates say anything meaningful will race. >> no, it did, i was there. >> no, race came up, but. >> can you ask you a question? when $12 million people are on food stamps. >> but you are not answer manage i question. >> i'm the host. you are guest. >> okay. >> when 12 million people are on food stamps why is it wrong to say he's the food stamp president because he's increasing the numbers. >> the food stamp program is created by president nixon, a republican. >> but $12 million more under obama. you are dodging. >> i'm not dodging. >> i kind of think those numbers are suspect. everyone is asking if it's a racial thing but no one has called him up on the numbers. yesterday the u.s. department of agriculture said there are

400,000 fewer recipients of food stamps unobama versus bush, so in reality if we want to crunch the numbers, bush was the food stamp president. >> i think what is happening now is the obama administration, his campaign, they are trying to brand the republican party for us. we've had a disconnect on branding and they are trying to brand the republican party as someone that's the big rich guy, the guy that's insensitive, billionaire that doesn't care. when in return, a lot of these people, take the billionaires like wal-mart, fedex, he's billionaires aren't the bad guys, they are creating and jobs and giving jobs. >> but it goes deeper. he spent $5 trillion of money we don't have. he's accumulated more debt in three years. he called bush unpatriotic and said he was irresponsible and unpatriotic. 5 trillion already in three obama years. >> sean, as donald trump says,

he should be fired. >> he should be fired. i wish trump would get him on his show and fire him. >> i don't know if detroit would griffin agree with that. the economy is on the up swing, we are leaving afghanistan and iraq, it's not that bad, guys. >> the economy is to the on the up swing. >> ain't a down swing. >> foreclosures are still happening. >> it will be 25% this year. >> he's created jobs -- excuse me, government jobs. >> but the alternative is the cast of characters that you call the republican primary candidates. >> i'll take the pirate. >> i'll take any of the -- i'll take this football over obama. >> but the american public won't. the american public remembers obama of the month club and that's what we've had. >> every republican is a bum? >> that's what i am saying. >> what if i call obama a bum? >> i'm saying politically a number of people have put their personal ambitions ahead of principals and that's what the

republican party is about. we will be here in november wondering about the dramatic shift of fortunes of the latest republican who failed. >> or the media. >> lib pratt media. >> liberal media has no votes.

>> we continue with our great, great american panel. i think one of the biggest decisions that did not get a lot of press is the keystone pipeline rejection of obama. here's why. unemployment in north dakota is 3.5% right now. 3.5% because of drilling. canada got out of the recession because they started to drill. there are literally hundreds and hundreds and thousands of jobs available. this oil -- the pipeline is going to be built, the oil is going to china. how big a mistake is this for obama? >> it's a huge mistake, number one. number two, i think the reasoning behind it is he was pandering to his environmentalists. he said i'll tick off the unions because where else are they going to go? he pandered to his far far left because he knows he has the unions in his pocket anyway. but he could have made a really good mark on his campaign if he would have gone ahead and approved of this. >> and immediately it would help the economy. even his own, what was it, the economic commission, they

recommended that they drill, baby, drill. he didn't listen to his deficit commission, why are we paying for these commissions, jacques? >> he's not bound by the commission. they advised him. he has other things he takes into consideration, as every president of the united states has done. they take advice and weigh it against other factors. >> why didn't he -- >> it's not a final decision. >> not final? >> it's not a final decision. >> it has been the most researched project in terms of safety and harm to the environment as any project has been researched. look at the political instability in the it's midwest, and the iran. >> great. i'm going there two eks for vacation, now you tell me. >> you are allowed. >> i'm for this. you know, i'm not much of an environmentalist. i pollute my lunch daily f this is going to create jobs, i can't defend obama on it. i think they should have done

it. >> the notion we should plunder the environment just to create -- >> plunder? >> environmental people have legitimate concerns. he wants them addressed. he didn't reject it flatly out of hand. they have been in ongoing discussions and i think eventually you will find a reasonable compromise. >> we are trying to decrease our dependency on foreign oil. what in the heck is he doing? >> the same american who rescued the auto industry, the same person who got osama bin laden, but he's the person who made the decision. >> i don't think it was the right decision. >> you are right. we have bush on record three separate times saying i don't care where osama is and obama's campaign is i'm going to get it and he re-upped and he did it. >> but you have to lock at the fact. if we would have adopted the measures we wouldn'tha