year, and the results are telling. republican candidate mitt romney in a virtual tie with president obama among swing state voters. 48% say they would choose mitt romney. 47% say they would choose barack obama. chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor. we should but that poll back up so folks with look at it for a 8% every 10 years.age 40, we can start losing muscle -- wow. wow. second. it all comes down to the swing but you can help fight muscle loss states, and whoever the nominee with exercise and ensure muscle health. is going to be, you know, we i've got revigor. like to think of it as sort of what's revigor? it's the amino acid metabolite, hmb national polls and we do the to help rebuild muscle "real clear politics" average, but the swing states are what and strength naturally lost over time. makes the difference. what does this number say to [ female announcer ] ensure muscle health has revigor you. >> reporter: if i was rom roeupl and protein to help protect, preserve, was shouting this numbemitt and promote muscle health. keeps you from getting soft. romney i would be shouting this [ major nutrition ] ensure. nutrition in charge! to the heavens he out performs newt gingrich by 8 points in a i'm going to own my own restaurant. head-to-head with president i want to be a volunteer firefighter. obama. when i grow up, i want to write a novel.

former senator rick santorum and i want to go on a road trip. when i grow up, i'm going to go there. ron paul. i want to fix up old houses. the romney campaign is arguing, [ female announcer ] at aarp the republicans have to have a we believe you're never done growing. nominee who is broadly i want to fall in love again. acceptable to moderate [ female announcer ] discover what's next in your life. swing-state voters, people that g this free travel bag when you join are going to decide this election and that romney is the at aarp.org/jointoday. guy. megyn: yet, how reliable is that at this point in the campaign, chris, when newt gingrich, you know, he had his first surge in december, he's having a second surge now, almost february, you megyn: "kelly's court" is back in session. a diehard football fan, fair know, have the swing state weather girlfriend. voters really got even a full jason armed with a ring and two taste of newt gingrich, other super bowl tickets all set to pop the big question at game his than mitt romney who has been running for president for a weekend. but he says when he was longtime? >> reporter: there is an interesting thing that happens diagnosed with cancer his dream when you look at head-to-head matchups before a party has girl promptly dumped him. finished its work. in this case certainly the here he is telling part of his barrage of negative ads and the number of attacks on newt tale of we. gingrich have intensified since >> i had an ex-girlfriend how his victory in south carolina.

we saw, as a matter of fact, the reverse happen before in other could call some choice words but different polls, that governor romney during his sort of down it's on that list of words i period leading into south can't say. i bought them for her. carolina, that he did worse with she broke up with me because she independents all of a sudden. found out i have cancer. remember, this is often >> wait, wait, hold on. forgotten, megyn, it's an important thing to remember about polls, independent voters she didn't just break up with aren't more moderate, they are you, she broke up with you why? spread across the political spectrum. >> because i have cancer. there are a lot of people who are very likely republican voters who happen to be registered as independents. >> expressly she said that's there are moderates and liberal why? >> she said it was too much independents. you can imagine what would stress for her to handle to have happen if republicans are a boyfriend with this disease. souring on newt gingrich there will be a greater number of megyn: now this modern day them, just as happened with hillary clinton and barack obama mother teresa wants the tickets, in 2008 who said i might not claiming she is entitled to vote for candidate x in the general election. them. usually that changes by the time you get to the final vote. kimberly guilfoyle and defense megyn: let's talk about the electability thing. attorney mark eiglarsh. my challenge to you, mark. when we saw the exit polling in south carolina, those south let's say modern day mother carolina voters thought newt teresa hires you and says he gingrich was the most electable. that came on the heels of made me this promise, i'm going stellar debates for him. to that game. he goes into a couple of other go make it argument.

how do you do it? >> no. debates where his performance megyn: she has money. was not as strong. does the electability factor go >> that's true. up and down depending on the to add to your argument. my kid's school is very debate performance. >> reporter: you've got it. expensive. but i identify which attorney in if you like somebody you think he ise isee electable. into don't particularly care for and that's write send her. there is no her to it her argument whatsoever. i'm trying -- i'm trying to defend her side but i feel like it may be a ration my liization, al pacino in "justice for all." someone who wants to vote for mitt romney or newt gingrich i won't let guilfoyle get my could say they aree are client, i'll take her down myself. megyn: he will say he made me a electable. megyn: no more debates before promise. we had an agreement. tomorrow night's big, big event he was going to get me this tickets. in florida. he secured the tickets. we will be on special coverage it was a gift, the gift has been at 8:00. given to me all but the piece of we have new polling for newt paper, he can't be an indian gingrich today. if you have been following speaker gingrich you may have giver and take them back. heard more than once the >> she'll try and say her almost candidate describing his rival

mitt romney as a quote, massachusetts moderate. fiance has been unjustly listen here. >> the most we're going to do is enriched because tickets were draw a direct and sharp contrast intend for her. i'm surprised she isn't asking with governor romney who is a for the bling, too? if mark was smarter would massachusetts moderate, the represent her and go to the contrast between a super bowl with her. but she doesn't have a legal georgia-reagan conservative and a massachusetts moderate is a case in terms of a legal pretty decisive contrast. the question is can you obligation on the part of her withstand that attack better as boyfriend to furnish the ticket. a solid conservative or as a he's the one who paid the money. moderate. i would argue that a mismas a megyn: what if it's a gift. let's forget that it's a super massachusetts is very unlikely bowl ticket. to withstand an ae attack, a what if he went out and bought her a stereo? conservative can do a better job. megyn: speaker gingrich appears say he bought her an 8-track to be changing that message. we'll tell you how, and why, and cassette player. check out the polls when his an hasn't actually give up to her yet. daughter, jackie gingrich joins he bought it for her. us live. we have a story breaking in our then they brain an doesn't get nation's capitol right now. give to it her. in just the last hour police can she sue him for the ipod telling occupy d.c. protestors, move. at noon today the national park dock? >> anyone unfortunately can sue service started enforcing a rule anyone for anything. that prohibits camping at one of

the nation's last remaining the answer, heck no. end of story, no merit. occupy encampments. this has become a hot button in >> no judge or jury is going to the nation's capitol. go for her. she loses big time in the court demonstrators are vowing to stand their line. steve centanni live with the of public opinion. one word. latest. cancer. i talked about this with owe people can't get past that. she dumped him because of that really on thursday. the park service had not been even though she was being kicking them out, month, before honest. it was too much of it month, before month, they got called before congress asking emotionally. why didn't you throw them out, he's the real winner here. and now they are doing it. he's not even using the tickets >> reporter: they haven't actually done anything today. the deadline was noon for the to go to the game. protestors to move all their he's auctioning them off. camping gear from two city you can't make this story up. parks. the deadline came and went and megyn: what if she does turn it no action by police, not yet any way. at one location protestors around and she does somehow covered the statue of a civil decide to go after him for the war general with a big blue tarp tickets, then he turns it around and are calling that the hint of and sues her for intentional green, that is a reference to infliction of emotional distress their sleeping in the park and because he has cancer. their dreams of economic equality. >> whoa! the police have told the protestors, they have to remove listen, only one who received a all their personal equipment and gift here was him.

camping gear and the shelters he discovered prior to take the will have to have one side ultimate plunge with her that remain open. police put up notices to that effect yesterday, and one she had tremendous defects of character and he got out. protester was tazed by a police officer for tearing down the >> he's even on the radio saying flyers giving notice. that he bought them for her. the house very critical of the that these were her tickets. park service to allow the protestors to sleep in the parks so short of just the actual where camping is prohibited. completion of the act of saying higher go, honey, here is some they promised at that time the law would soon be enforced. extra cash, $20 for a hot dog a 24-hour vigil to express some point of view is allowed in and beer. the whole gift has been these parks. completed. so in that sense she won't get they say the free speech right was being protected. megyn: if you want a vigil you've got to stay awake, if you sympathy from the court. fall a sleep it crosses over it will cost her more to try and into camping and they can kick fight it. it would be one thing if he you out. turned it over to her already steve, thank you. over in oakland, california, and he tried to get them back, police arresting some 400 occupy then would i say forget it. protestors following some of the i would say he won't be able to worst violence to date we have get them back it, a moot point seen in a city where the unless he gets an injunction demonstrators were initially welcomed with open arms. against her before she goes to at least three officers have been injured, protestors it. megyn: he says she calls every day and demand the tickets. throwing rocks, bottles and

meantime has an 87% chance of metal pipes. take a look at some of the mayhem for yourself. survival. which we are happy to hear. he proposed to her after five months but wound up finding out she wasn't the right person for you. that's how you find out if somebody is into you or not. megyn: that's a nice note to leave it on. thanks, panel. coming up, animal rights activists seeing red over the movie "the gray." what is their beef? we are live on that story next. can you imagine living or working in that area? some of the protestors later broke into oakland's city hall, burning american flags, smashing display cases, spraying graffiti. some say fellow demonstrators were reacting to what they are calling police brutality. >> all we were doing is marching, we didn't throw

anything, break anything, light anything on fire. there was no violence at all, and they attacked us. >> they burned some of the flags you see in the center, they threw trash on the ground, that they broke into one of our electrical boxes, and we don't quite get, they turned over the historic model of city hall in the ground tphr-r and destroyed the childrens' art exhibit on recycled art. megyn: some of the protestors destroyed childrens art on display. this is what the art looked like before the chaos. later on "america live" why some are saying this incident could actually be the start of the resurgence of the occupy movement. new developments in the shocking case of the so-called honor killings. we hires brough first brought it to you here last week. a jury finding a father, mother and brother guilty of those

murders. they murdered three teen able girls in a so-called honor killing. the prosecutors said the defendants drowned their victims after finding out that the young girls were defying their strict rules on clothes, dating and the internet. the family still claims they are all innocent. delays tractrace gallagher update live from l.a. this has sparked a big debate with our neighbors to our north. >> reporter: it has indeed. the jury took 15 hours to convict the mother, father and son. they automatically life in prison with no possibility of parole for at least 25 years. the judge said the evidence was clearly supporting the conviction and adding, quote, it's difficult to conceive of a more heinous, more honorless crime. they say they were killed because they dishonored the family and the secret wife was killed because she was an advocate for the girls. these girls tried numbers of times to go to authorities saying they were living in

abusive households, the authorities never intervened. the prosecutors believe that all the victims were actually drowned elsewhere and placed into a car and that car was pushed into a canal by the parents' car. here now is ka mad canadian authorities, listen. >> horn is a tough word to comprehend with this. there is nothing honorable about it. it's been a struggle through the whole case and will continue to be. it's murder, that's what it is. >> reporter: as they left the courthouse you saw them there, father, mother and son maintain their innocence saying they did not do this. and the defense says they believe the physical evidence didn't weigh nearly as heavy and the secret inks that were made by the police of the father, the father said and i'm quoting here, even if they come back to life a hundred times i will cut them in pieces, going onto say, may the devil defecate on their megyn: what do you do when one graves, even saying, even if they who is me up into the of your biggest bombs is not gallows, nothing is more dear to me than my honor. the defense says the family will

enough. sheon panetta says the bunker appeal this conviction. buster may not be strong enough megyn. megyn: unbelievable. to reach iran's bunker lab trace, thank you. the shafia murder trial is buried deep underground. the defense department has spent putting a sister just strain on $300 million to develop the bomb canada's muslim community. and so far only 20 have been many are warning if warnings in made. this case were intentionally now they are asking for $82 million more to make the bunker ignored because of a problem of buster more effective. being politically correct when the air for us also work to it comes to the danger. some children of radical muslims -- will this verdict retrofit some b-52 bombers to change anything? later this hour we'll take a look with a reporter who has been following this case from carry the bomb in case it's ever the very start. made. less than 24 hours before the animal rights activists are up voting begins in the critical florida primary, and newt in arms over a new movie that gingrich -- it has already begun if you look at the early voting features man-eating snarling and so on. the actual voting where you go to the polling box. wolves. >> reporter: the movie is newt gingrich pushing hard with based on survivors of a plane a new message today. in three minutes we will speak crash be in alaska that have to with his daughter about her father's apparent change of fend off the elements and packs strategy. and in the dark of the night of angry wolves. survivors of a deadly highway peta says it depicts wolves the pileup describe the horrific

sounds of cries and screams. we'll show you what led to this. oh, the pictures. way sharks were depicted in plus a tarmac tiff between president obama and arizona governor jan brewer, you've "jaws." she call the director joe heard about this already, probably. there is new fallout today. now governor brewer is being carnage. the director and the lead actor described as racist because of this. is that fair? we'll have a fair & balanced liam neeson do not seem to be debate just ahead. trying to placate peta. >> bottom line is is that i wanted to be there to welcome on the set he held a "wolf meets him, to come and see firsthand what arizona has done in regards to our economic recovery. he wanted to talk about the barbeque." book. and i thought that he was pretty liam neeson said i went up for seconds of the wolf school it's thin skinned. people with a machine. gamey. but i'm irish so i'm used odd stews. peta came back with there is.

clearly not a lot of love lost between liam neeson and the people at peta. thanks, trace. a chain collision leaving 10 people dead on a florida highway. serious questions remain about what caused these accidents. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker...

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republican presidential candidate newt gingrich appears and a choice. to be stepping up his attacks take advil no and maybe up to four in a day. against rival mitt romney. speaker gingrich has repeatedly or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. charged that the former governor is a massachusetts moderate, way to go, coach. less suited for this race than ♪ he, a label mr. gingrich ♪ repeatedly used during several interviews. take a listen. feel the power my young friend. mmm! >> the most we're going to do is draw a direct and sharp contrast [ male announcer ] for excellent fruit and veggie nutrition... v8 v-fusion, also refreshing plus tea. with governor mitt romney, who could've had a v8. is a massachusetts moderate, and a contrast between a georgia-reagan conservative, and a massachusetts moderate is a pretty decisive contrast. the question i can you withstand that attack better as a solid conservative or as a moderate? i would argue that a massachusetts moderate is very unlikely to be able to withstand the attack, a conservative would have a better job. megyn: the former speaker seems to be massaging that message a bit. take a listen to speaker gingrich as early as this morning. >> the fact is on big, philosophical issues he is for all practical purposes a liberal

and i am a conservative and that's what this fight will be about all the way to the convention. megyn: later in the day they put out something, the campaign did calling mitt romney a massachusetts liberal. jackie cushman is newt gingrich's daughter and campaign manager. thank you for coming on the program. >> thank you for having me one. megyn: is he changing his >> we're still take your thoughts on it. you can send your thoughts to me message from massachusetts moderate to liberal? what is behind that? following me on twitter. >> a couple of things. we look forward to hearing from first of all we've seen in you. florida that a massive amount of thanks for watching. man has been spent by romney and the super pack. >> the news begins anew on studio b, and tracking your we are out spent 4-1. what we are trying to do is draw e-mails behind your back. attention to his record as a workers at one government agency governor. clearly he doesn't want to run are accusing their bosses of on his record he wants to run doing that. mitt romney now taking a what he did in the business commanding lead in the state of world which is great. he was a very subject full florida one day before the winner take all primary in that businessman. for someone who wants to govern state. our country it's really results from the latest polls important that we look at his coming up. plus, the deadly pileup on i-75 record as what he did as a

governor. for eubs stance when he was governor taxes went up in $700 million. that is nothing something a conservative would do. when my dad was speaker they balanced the national budget. a clear contrast in terms of what was happening. megyn: do you think mitt romney is a liberal? >> i think if you look at -- if you want a really clear differentiation in the fall and i think we are going to have to have. i agree that our goal in the end is to beat president barack obama. to do that we need to provide a very clear contrast on the national stage for the general election, and that means that we have someone who has not necessarily passed romney care in their own home state, which had individual mandates. someone who has balanced the national budget, has reformed welfare, cut taxes and spend opening the national level. we are willing to have a clear conservative who has the experience, who has the message, that can provide the contrast to barack obama in the fall that can lead to victory. megyn: i didn't hear a yes or no

in there. are you not comfortable saying that? the reason i'm pushing on that is some of the folks in the republican circles are saying, now they are calling him a liberal, that won't be helpful to the g.o.p. if mitt romney ends up the nominee. do you think that is a fair charge against romney? >> i think the fair charge is too look at his record. megyn: i know you say that. are you comfortable with that label, that romney is a liberal? >> i think if you look at his record as governor that he raised taxes, that he increased fees on guns, that he put in romney care, planned parenthood, specifically, i think those don't stack up on a conservative record. people need to go and look at his record as governor and they need too go look at my dad's record at speaker and a contrast in the fall against barack obama, it's a clear contrast. megyn: i don't want to retread the same ground. now it's making news. let me ask you this. we showed the polling at the top of the show where your dad has fallen behind mitt romney in florida, not on the "real clear politics" national average, he's

still ahead but in florida he's fallen a coupl behind. he was doing very well in florida after his south carolina win and a lot of folks are pointing to those two debates last week and saying he wasn't the same newt gingrich at those debates. what do you think happened at those debates? >> i think a couple of things. i think first of all i think that the polls reflect not just the debates and that's part of it, and dad talked about that, an was really trying to work through what the best response was when he heard mitt romney saying, i'm not aware of that ad and mitt romney was the one that approved it. you have to think how to properly respond to that. there are a couple of instances on newt.org. romney and his team have spent $16 million here in florida. this is a huge state you know. that it's very much a media market. on our side we spent $4 million. we are out spent 4-1. i don't know if you have the insider advantage poll that was produced this morning and just

released, we are tightening the race, it's much tighter. megyn: he is up five points. >> we are on the upswing, mitt is down again. i've been out with those making calls, the response today is overwhelmingly positive, much different than earlier in the week. this is going to be a photo finish. this is not a don deal in florida. megyn: how -- wrist the money going to come from? romney is very well funded. no matter what happens in florida your dad says he's in it beyond that. where is the money going to ce from? >> you're right, romney is very well funded. he's been running for five years. he put in his money since he began. a great organization, very impressive. our money is coming from people who want to see a true conservative move ahead to the national landscape. sarah palin said if she could vote in florida she'd vote for beginning r*r. people that are interested in seeing a conservative fight for their values and their ideals,

they are the ones that are going to support this movement. megyn: thank you for being here, ma'am. see you again soon. >> thank you. megyn: all the best. coming up, news out of the pentagon on one of the biggest weapons in our military.

megyn: they said it looked like the end of the world, a smoke-filled highway becoming the scene of a devastating multicar pileup in florida. at least ten people killed, 18 more hurt. survivors say once people started crashing there was almost nothing drivers approach the pileup could do to avoid it. now investigators are sifting through what looks like a hollywood movie set, and for a reason. trace gallagher live in l.a. with more. trace. >> reporter: megyn because of the heavy smog and the thick fog, the smoke and the fog, rather they actually shut down i75 south of gainsville.

it was shut down complete li completely in the early morning hours. then they opened it up. you saw what happened. cars, tractor trailers, a motor home, a tour bus, colliding one after another after another. the wreckage was strewn for almost a mile. ten people were killed. the death toll could go higher, because of the 18 hospitalized, some are in very bad shape. when rescue crews arrived on scene, get this. they could only listen for the screams and moans because the visibility made it impossible to find the victims. one man said he saw two semitrucks stopped on the road so he stopped. he began talking to another driver who had stopped next to him, he rolled down his window and then here is what happened, listen. >> out of nowhere, boom somebody just comes crashing into him and literally his car goes under the semitruck. he is smashed into the semitruck. we didn't have enough time to react to get out the car, which

i'm glad he didn't. as soon as he got hit another car came in at least doing 80. >> reporter: after that he and his passenger got out of the car finally and scrambled to the side of the road. good thing because his car was hit again and again. another witness says with the smoke, the fog, the burning cars and screaming people it felt, as you said like the end of the world. here now is the florida highway patrol. >> we got multiple investigators on the scene. we are going to be doing, you know, we're going to have to try to figure out exactly how many collisions we had so that we do the proper investigation, as far as documentation, as far as what transpired as accurately as possible. >> reporter: you know, it's interesting, megyn, because we actually asked the highway patrol, what do you do? you get to a part of the road where it's so thick with fog and smoke that you can't see and their advice is, look, you pull all the way off the road, off the side of the road and then you put your hazard lights onto make sure that at least as cars

get closer they can see you. but in this case cars were already stopped. can you imagine coming on the scene at 65 miles an hour and there is a truck stopped in the middle of the road. megyn: no. i remember several years ago here in new york state there was a terrible accident on the new york state through way where there was a bridge extending part of the thorough way and it had collapsed and a school bus went off and car after car just kept piling into this ravine essentially because it was so foggy they continue see right in front of them, that there was no more road, until some brave, good samaritan turned his car perpendicular to the road, and people had a little bit of a warning seeing the car. but i mean when you cannot see, when there is no visibility like that, there is just very little chance. trace, thank you. >> reporter: you bet. megyn: breaking news after the break on the showdown between the united states and egypt. plus, new fallout over a finger wagging moment. we showed you last week the tense moment between arizona

governor jan brewer and president obama at the airport in arizona. in three minutes why some are now suggesting this was driven by racism on the part of the arizona governor. plus, a woman dumps her boyfriend after learning he has cancer, but she still wants the super bowl tickets he bought for her. love gone wrong, and - super bowl in the balance on the docket in today's "kelly's court." you know when i grow up,

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megyn: fox news alert the white house react being moments ago to a situation involving a group of americans being blocked from leaving egypt. we're told some have taken refuge at the embassy in cairo and one of the americans involved is the son of a cabinet member, transportation secretary ray lahood. here is white house press secretary jay carney moments ago. >> well i can confirm that there are a handful of american citizens at the embassy. we are not aware of -- that they are in any danger, but that handful of citizens has opted to stay in the embassy compound in cairo while waiting for permission to depart egypt. as you know these are citizens who have been told they cannot leave egypt. we have, in our discussions with the staff, the supreme council of the armed forces we've made

clear our concerns about this issue, and our disappointment that these several citizens are not being allowed to depart egypt in connection with the government's investigation into ngo's, and we continue to work with the egyptian authorities to resolve this issue as soon as possible. megyn: coming up, new reporting on the next move in this increasingly tense showdown. new fallout today over a photo of a tense moment between arizona governor jan brewer and president obama. that moment captured here on the tarmac during the president's visit to arizona last week. the two reportedly disagreeing about how the governor described a meeting with the president in her book, scorpians for breakfast. now some members of the african-american community are calling that finger wagging gesture racist, as well as her description of the encounter. last week radio show host joe madison had this to say. >> there are some people, not

all in this country who cannot stand the fact that this is an african-american who is now one of the most powerful individuals on the planet, and there are those who cannot consciously, and subconsciously handle it. i know people don't want to hear that, but that is the truth. >> well you know you're not going to get a debate. megyn: jemu green is the former president of the media center and a fox news contributor. david webb is host of the david webb show and co-founder of tea party 365. it was not just mr. madison as well. al sharpton came out and made comments, naacp officials came out and said they believed this played on a discriminatory sterotypes of whites being superior to blacks. what do you think, jemu? >> i think at end of the day governor jan briar is not a

racist. i think that she as the overwhelming majority of americans has beliefs where she wants and believes everyone is equal. we live in a country and a world where there is by as that we have that is subconscious. and that's reflected in, you know, how we smile at someone, what our spatial distance is with them, and sometimes our behaviors don't mesh up with our beliefs. and i think maybe some folks are going too far to the racist part of it and not seeing i think a bigger issue, on top of her being disrespectful to the president, and would she or any governor approach a president in that manner if he was a white man, if he was george bush, that we wouldn't have seen someone saying that she thought shy was threatened, she felt that his stance was threatening. that is an indicator of i think

her subconscious by as that all of us are guilty of. i've got even into elevators and clutched my purse if i'm standing next to someone who, you know, looks like he could be scary and that could be a black man. i'm aware of it, and i think more of us need to become aware of it to broaden out this conversation and truly address racial disparity in this country. megyn: david. >> jemu you should go on "dancing with the stars" with that soft shoe. let's deal with the issue at hand. it's impolite to point, megyn, that's what my parents taught me. megyn: she said she felt threatened by the exchange. >> right, well that is fine. women sometimes feel threatened by men if they are in a position of an argument, that is always something else. >> the president, in front of cameras, in front of an entire office, in front of the press core. >> i don't care. she is entitled to it. let's talk about the racist charge by joe madison, and

alsharpton, jesse jackson and the rest. did jan brewer's finger have the n-word written on it? maybe that would have made it racist, or is this a case where the president and his accolades need to call out the black mafia which is what they are to turn it into racism. a tense exchange, of course she is the governor, he is the president. he is suing arizona, they are dominantly hispanic. is he racist against hispanics for having the doj file security for a governor trying to protect its citizens. megyn: there was a piece today that said even though he is suing her state, she showed up for the meet and greet, invited him to have lunch and have a tour of the border. pint sized jan refused to be intimidated biobama's confront national demeanor and now the back. he is the one that started the

exchange with her that was tense. do they have a point? would you be singing a different tune if he were white or she were black or they were the same race? >> i think good for her that she is ambitious that she has her leather and wanted to have a conversation with him about immigration. i also think she wanted a confrontation. megyn: he started it. >> how do you know what she wanted. >> wait a second, david, let me finish. she wanted a confrontation on immigration because it is good right now for anyone on the right to show that they are standing up to the president, that they are being aggressive against the president, and that is where i do point fault at her, because she may not be a racist, but she also understands, by her taking that stance, she is tapping into some of those racial under tones that we have in this country. for david to deny that they exist. >> i didn't deny they exist. don't try this.

>> that a white man is going to be called become for a second interview than a black man with a toda diploma. stop trying to deny the reality. >> typical talking points of the black mafia here in america. here is the reality. racism exists, megyn, this does not rise even to the level of beyond if you will, impolite for pointing in a conversation. what we don't do -- i want to see the black mafia, joe madison, jehmu green, alsharpton and all of them come out and denounce and what we exposed this weekend on video interviews with black people at occupy wall street who say they are being discriminated to the point where they went to occupy new york, formed a camp. we rolled it out for the world to see. there is explicit, explicit

racism there, which is an issue to be tackled. instead -- >> there is implicit -- >> let me finish my point. let me finish my point. >> you shouldn't be penalizing me or other people about people who speak about the black community by calling them the black mafia. megyn: i'll give you the floor back, let him finish his point. >> ththe bigotry of low expectations that is being pandered by the left in this country, where if you are black you are a victim, if you are black you are immediately a seven-year-old school boy who can't handle himself against a governor in the case of the president, they have to roll out racism. megyn, what credible american looking at this says, reverse, black, white or in any manner it was racist? >> go ahead, gehmu. >> most americans look at this and say it was disrespectful for her and it is absolutely okay

for the president to want to address her, you know misinformation in her book, especially when she walked out of the white house and said that it was a cordial meeting, and then as it related to the book she wanted to have a confrontational stance, it helped her book sales, but at the end of the day we have to get past the disrespect part for the president, because there is a level of disrespect for this office that has taken place in the last three years that any american should find unacceptable. >> this is ridiculous, megyn. megyn: very quickly i've got to go. >> for all the people who claim that people hate obama because he's black, he's half white, which half do you hate? he's by racial. who hates the white half? who hates the black half? that is the ridiculous nature of what jehmu and what the left put out. americans post racial. this is not post racial. megyn: i've got to go. >> we need to a dress racism in this country in a meaningful

way, not by calling name. >> it's stupidity that takes us to this level and that's what you pander too. megyn: stop, stop, stop, it got a little tense but love you both. thank you both for being here. these are tough discussions. >> i need to be honest. megyn: thank you both. i appreciate it. we're taking your thoughts on it at kelly at fox news.com. some people called it a case of domestic violence. listen to this one, jehmu, they called it domestic violence against women. proprosecutors called it an honor killing, and jury convicted a father, mother and brother. occupy protestors. fallout when it comes to arrests. who really was to blame? [ male announcer ] juice drink too watery?

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megyn: the conviction of an afghan family for so-called horn killings is putting a serious strain on canada's muslim community today. a couple and their adult son found guilty of murdering their three young daughters along with the father's first wife. the girls has apparently defied strict rules on clothes, dating and the internet. the victims tried to tell authorities they lived in an abusive home but were ignored. now some are asking why and whether the verdict in this case could change things. here now a man who has covered this case from the very start. sun news tv host michael coran. and author of why catholics are right. the verdicts have come down, they have been found guilty of these so-called honor killings and yet still, still we are hearing from some in canada that is not what this should be looked at, that this is domestic violence that could happen in any faith. tell us. >> well you made the point very

well on friday. you almost predicted this would happen. the verdicts were perfect. i wish we had a harsh ercis them however they were found guilty of first-degree murder. within moments of the verdict, i would say less than ten minutes the chief police officer, the inspector in charge of the case did good work he spoke to the cameras and he said domestic violence is a very bad thing. yeah it is a very bad thing but this was not domestic violence, this was something intrinsic to islam. let's make this quite clear, not very honor killings islamic. it has occurred in the sikh community. the vast majority occur within the context of the muslim faith. pakistan, for example, is the epicenter of honor killings. hundreds if not thousands a year. throughout the middle east, i mean i've lived, traveled extensively in the middle east, in many muslim countries honor killing is not even a crime. a man has a woman as property beforehand, beforearriage as a father, then as a husband. most muslim men are kind, gentle, they don't treat these

women badly, but they are empowered and enabled to do so if they want. if you commit an honor killing in many islamic countries and increasingly in egypt by the way with this new government you won't be charged, certainly not incarcerated. it's not considered a crime. it's an honor problem, a shame problem and the only way to expunge it as i mentioned on friday is by a blood sacrifice by making sure these people are killed. the victims are invariably, almost exclusively women. but some of the murderers are women too. in this case the biological mother collaborated with enthusiastically took part in the murder of three of her biological daughters, including one that was 13-years-old. megyn: she killed her own children says the jury. the parents killed their own children because they became some wester western. how we classify this is important because it's gets dismissed. if we don't acknowledge that this is an issue, it's not a huge issue, am i wrong, it's not

extremely prevalent, but it does happen, both in canada and the united states, you have school authorities, you have social services authorities, you have others who dismiss it. these girls had complained repeatedly that they were afraid of their father. >> you're quite right. we shouldn't over react, in that we shouldn't say this is happening every day in the islamic community. but in canada, u.s. britain, scan today knave yeah, france, the low countries in europe. it does happen. three, four, five a year. in the actual murders it's the oppression of women. i'm not talking about liberation. these are women who are told you will cover yourself in this tent-like garment. you will not speak out of turn. you will remain in the home. there is an even credible fear to mention the word islam. there are muslim kids burning people to death, burning property, the word muslim is not used. you have a madman, an army psychiatrist, absurdly promoted

to major who murders 13 colleagues wounds 30-odd others, and your president with all due respect will not say the word muslim. megyn: let me stand you by. we will continue this right after this break. [ female anno] this is not a prescription. this is mary. who has a million things to pick up each month on top of her prescriptions. thankfully, her walgreens pharmacist recommended a 3-month supply. now, mary gets 3 refills in one and for 3 months she's done. ask your pharmacist about a 90 day supply and how to save with the prescription savings club. individual memberships are just 5 dollars. enroll today. walgreens. there's a way to stay well.

megyn: rejoining me now sun news tv host michael coren. thank you for being back with us. i want to pick up with what the father told the jury at the trial. we hear this often in these honor killing cases e. got up there and swore on the koran to tell the truth and then said to kill someone you can't regain your honor. in our religion a person who kills his wife or daughter, there is nothing more dishonorable, and yet that is not really true. if you are a radical islamist you may in fact be very much in favor of this principle of honor killing. >> there is something within

islam, it's a way the muslims are allowed -- when i say muslims it sounds as though i'm condemning all people. believe me that is not what i'm saying. within islam a muslim is allowed to lie, to tell an even truth to an infidel, to a nonbeliever in defense of his religion for himself to defend himself or herself from injury or pain or in cars ration. this is established. any solar, speak to some christian arabs, they will tell you this is certainly the case. he lied constantly. for him there was no problem. there was no difficulty in putting his hand on the koran, the holy book to him and then lying. the idea that honor killing somehow is a shame and disgrace to islam. really, if i had hair i'd be pulling it out at this stage. this man he' his family in pakistan said he was right to do this. for goodness sake. we know, he was recorded as saying, the devil should defecate, he didn't use the word

defecate. the devil should defecate on the graves of these children. this generation is a disgrace. you know, there is a reality here that many people in the west, particularly i'm sorry white liberals are frightened to embrace and that is that the islamic world has a very different view of truth and coexistence to the rest of the world. tolerance is not a word that is used very often as we know it in the islamic world. megyn: michael coren than that you very much for joining us again. they've been sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole for at least 25 years, but they are appealing. all the best, sir. new fallout after the chairman of the republican national committee compared president obama to the captain of that ill-fated cruise ship in italy. rick santorum left the campaign trail after his 3-year-old daughter became ill. the special story behind bella

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the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. megyn: hundreds under arrest, thousands of dollars in damage. i'm megyn kelly. this is the scene in oakland, california as demonstrators clashed with police. it began as a march to take over a vacant building. but it ended with protesters trashing city hall, burning an american flag and trashing a children's art project display. >> reporter: according to who you talk to there were 80 there

were 800 -2,000 protesters. they wanted to use the building as a political hub to shut down the port of oakland. police say they were pelted with bottles, metal pipes. one officer was cut with a bicycle that was thrown at him. they began firing teargas cannisters and smoke bombs. several a hours later after this, that's when the protesters took over city hall, they got inside and the chaos began. even one of the protesters says things got out of hand. >> no one broke in. the doors were unlocked. people started tipping over

stuff and that's when i left, i didn't think that was right. >> they burned some of the files. they threw trash on the ground. they broke into one of our electrical boxes and we don't quite get. they turned over the historic model of city hall. >> reporter: from city hall, that's when police say the occupiers went to a nearby ymca and that's where the lion's share of the arrests were made. police maintain they gave these protesters multiple warnings to break it up. protesters of course claim police used excessive force. the protests have cost oakland $5 million. we should also note there were five murder in the city of oakland over the weekend and the oakland police police say their resources are clearly needed in other parts of the city.

megyn: one inexplicable casualty was a case housing elementary school artwork. students were challenged to create something from recycled material. demonstrators smashed the artwork to pieces, completing the cycle back to the trash. just ahead we'll have a closer look at the actions by the police and those about it protesters. the controversy surrounding the mayor of oakland and how she has handled these protests. to the campaign trail where the white house is slamming the chairman of the republican party today. the republican national committee, calling shim desperate for attention regarding comments he made on the sunday talk show circuit. reince priebus compared president obama to the captain

of that wrecked italian cruise ship. >> in a few months this is going to be ancient history and we'll talk about our own captain francesco schettino, which is president obama who is abandoning the ship. he's more interested in campaigning than doing this job as president. megyn: that comment is being called incendiary considering for than a dozen people have died in that tragedy. do you stand by those remarks? >> clearly megyn when i made those comments, i clearly used the analogy in both sentences that this president was akin to leaving his own job and campaigning nonstop all the time, worried about his job, number one, instead of the jobs of the million of mayors cans that are out there.

we talked about the fact that this president is in love with campaigning. he's not in love with his job as path and getting the debt under control as promised and getting americans back to work. this is ridiculous, megyn. the analogy was made and it was an analogy of leadership that in a time of crisis, this president is leaving the white house and campaigning nonstop all the time. i think it's pretty clear. but if people out there don't krat i can side want to make hay of it they will be able to do that. it's a fair asnaly in regard to leadership in a moment of crisis that this president is more interested in his own job, a-number one than the jobs of the millions of americans. megyn: the point debbie wasserman-shultz seems to be getting at, is that 17 people

are dead, 15 are missing on that cruiseship. the captain has been accused of criminal acts, charged with manslaughter, that's a coward at worst a liar and perhaps a person guilty if the jury said so of killing beam his recklessness. so there is a question -- accused of killing people because of his recklessness. >> i made it very clear in the comments twice that way was referring to -- i didn't just make the comment and move on. i made the comment that it was referring leadership and acting like a leader in a moment of crisis. i was referring to the fact that this president is in love with campaigning and not in love with his job of getting our country back on track. i think it's awful. people died, terrible and our prayers go out to those people without a question. but to take this comment and turn it insome to something that

it was -- turn it into something that it is not is wrong, too. that's political gamesmanship. we have a country that needs a lot of help and we have a president who needs to get serious about fulfilling the promises he made about the debt, the deficit and jobs in this country. megyn: michael steele went on national television today and called your remarks unfortunate and he had some other criticism of you and the rnc and the white house spokesman jay carney spoke to michael steele's comments about you earlier today. listen to jay carney. >> let me say if you are so desperate for attention that you make an analogy that michael steele deems inappropriate, you have probably gone too far. megyn: what do you think about

mr. carney's comments saying you have gone too far and michael steele saying they were unfortunate. >> the reality is the comment was crystal clear, couched twice with exactly what this was about, which is about leadership and learning about the rest our country that's out of work instead your own job to get reelected 24/7. that issue was made clear. it will be about putting people back to work and the president has not risen to the occasion in a time of crisis. megyn: michael steele also came out and said the rnc has failed to come to the country with a message that rnc dropped the ball. now you are in charge of it. what do you think about what michael steele said? do you have any response?

>> i'm not going to get into that kind of engagement. we have raised more money in an off-year of major donors in the history our party. we revamped our entire organization. when you talk about the brink of disaster, walking in the first day without being able to make payroll. we are going to continue the drum beat and make sure this president is a one-term president. talking about the economy and talking about jobs and showing what the president promised and what he delivered. that's what this will be about. megyn: aaron brocovich investigating a mysterious illness involving a group of girls. plus she broke up with her boyfriend because he got cancer, that's what he said, but she still wants the super bowl

tickets he promised her. the medical condition that nearly took rick santorum's baby girl's life. >> the love she emits, it's clear to me that we are the disabled ones. not her. she has got it right. she has a great, beautiful spirit. one that emits unconditional love. and we can learn a lot frombe that. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.

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megyn: we are seeing new spooky images of the capsized cruise ship showing floating chairs, dishes caught in nets and dishes on the bottom of the sea. gregg burke is streaming live from rome. >> reporter: this is a story that's not going away anytime soon. the whole legal procedure is

just beginning. we also understand the ship is not going anywhere anytime soon. video out today shows what a disaster this was for those onboard. everything upside down, thrown around. we are seeing some of the items making their way down onto the ocean floor. you can only imagine how chaotic it must have been on the night of the wreck as the vessel went on its side tilting so badly and eventually sinking on the rocks. there is a timetable for getting the shioff the rocks. the people of the island are not happy about it. they are talking. 7-10 months to remove the "kelly's court." that will make problems for their main source of income. they really depend on that for tourism. that's why it' important the ship goes and it's important they get the fuel off. one of the families we saw almost every day out there a

the island. a peruvian couple, their youngest daughter worked on the ship. finally over the weekend the body recovered was identified as their youngest daughter. it's not going to bring them closure, but at least they can go home and it's a start. megyn: a fox news alert. new fallout from the chaotic and destructive rally by the occy movement in oakland. this was the scene as demonstrators clashed with police. it ended in demonstrators ransacking city hall, even trashing a display of children's artwork made from recycled material. sergeant, put it in perspective wausau this week and over 400 arrests we are told. >> these protesters are not any

way trying to prove their point. they are just breaking the law. utter destruction to downtown is absolutely terrible. burning the flag on the steps of city hall, graffitiing the streets. damaging buildings, and they are actually coming off and attacking officers. they are armed with shield, rocks, bottles. and we had three officers injured in the clark over the weekend. megyn: the protesters claim the police misbehaved and they are threatening to sue. here is one of the occupy protesters. she has her face covered in a bandana presumably because of the teargas. let's listen to what she says. >> there was teargas multiple times. all we were doing was marching. we didn't throw anything, break anything, light anything on fire

in was no violence and they attacked us. megyn: they tear gassed us multiple times, there was no violence on our part, the occupy protesters' part. >> absolutely not. by was down at the henry j. kaiser center as they tried to invade and take over a public building for their own purposes. the police department -- the officers and the police department should be out in our neighborhood trying to help the citizens of oakland. we are still the most violent city in california with five murders over this weekend, and there is nothing more than my members would like than to be out in the neighborhoods protecting our citizens instead of policing these individuals who are no longer protesting, they are just damaging property, breaking the law and attacking police officers. megyn: they say there were children in the crowds.

>> i was there. i must have missed it. i didn't see any children. i did see rocks, bottles and hundreds and hundreds of protesters advantage on officers armed with shields. which is an indication that that's not a peaceful protest. this is just an effort to break the law and damage the city. megyn: do you feel that the protesters will come into compliance with the mandate from the city? >> when it comes to a mandate from the city, i hope city leaders stand up, provide a plan and a mandate and step up to protect the citizens of oakland so this stops. megyn: do you have any hope of that actually happening? >> i hope it does. megyn: thank you very much. we appreciate you being here. we are taking your thoughts on it. coming up, breaking news next involving a voter fraud case

involving the secretary of state in indiana. plus he says his girlfriend broke up with him because he got cancer but she still wants the super bowl tickets he bought with the intention of proposing to her at the game. that's in today's "kelly's court."

megyn: we are following a developing story in indiana are jury selection just began in a voter fraud case. charges are against charlie

white, a republican facing 7 counts of voter fraud. >> reporter: he is the state's top elections official and he's accused of voter fraud. charlie wright is the republican secretary of state much indiana. the charges include voter fraud, fraud, perjury, theft and allegedly voting with a falsified ballot. he was allegedly registered to vote at his ex-wife's house. he said he did spend four nights a week living at his ex-wife's house base and his new wife didn't want to live together until they were married. but we sat down with him for an interview at the indiana statehouse an said he did nothing illegal. >> we always abide by the law.

i abide by those same laws everybody else abeads by, the same laws and same legal precedent. >> reporter: in december a judge ordered him out saying the democrat who lost the race to white should be sworn in as the secretary of state of indiana. that decision has been stayed. mitch daniels the republican governor has called on white to resign and the democratic party wants him to quit. >> charlie white registered to vote at a place he didn't live, in contravention of the law. the state's chief election official, the secretary of state should be required to follow the election law. >> if he is convicted he would be removed from office. for now the man who is entrusted with protecting the integrity of the elections in the state sits

pind behind me indicted but professing his innocence. megyn: tensions rying -- tensions rising are egypt over 10 americans unable to leave. plus actor lirks an neeson under attack for something he did. rick santorum's daughter bella has captivated the country and we'll tell you why. >> my dad today is exercising his most important role, which is being a dad. which is why he's home. instead i g heartburn. hold up partner. prilosec can take days to work. try alka-seltzer. it kills heartburn fast. yeehaw!

megyn: the white house and the state department confirming that a handful of americans are taking refuge at the u.s. embassy in cairo. there is no word yet if sam lahood who is the southern of transportation secretary ray lahood is among them. moments ago fox spoke with ray lahood. catherine herridge is live in washington with an update. >> reporter: confirmation the u.s. embassy in cairo has taken the highly unusual step of offering these americans shelter because there has been no progress on lifting this no exit list. >> we do not feel they are in physical danger at the moment.

that's a different matter than whether they are being persecuted in the egyptian judicial system. we have confirmed that we have not been able to resolve this situation. megyn: the defense secretary urged them to lift the no exit stlis which includes the son of transportation secretary ray lahood. what's key here is that theo -- the u.s. embassy limits the egyptian authority to arrest americans at that site. weep believe sam lahood is among this group. we heard from ray lahood as he left an event in new york city. >> he's safe, thank god.

>> reporter: we were told the egyptian delegation in washington will be told in the strongest terms that this travel ban should be lifted. the president warned them that u.s. aid of more than a billion dollars is at jeopardy. megyn: a different kind of story is getting attention on the campaign trail. rick santorum left florida to be with his 3-year-old daughter bella, short for isabellaa. doctors say she has made a miraculous turn around. the senator explained some of the challenges bella faces in a

video posted on his web site. >> our youngest daughter isabella we call bella is a special girl that needs a lot of care. when she was born we knew something was wrong but we didn't know what it was it wasn't until five days later they told us she had a disorder which is similar to down's syndrome. we were told the diagnosis that bella's life expectancy was a matter of hours and days. megyn: tony perkins is president of the family research council. that video is a campaign piece they put together, a back grounder on his family and his relationship with bella. i defy anybody to watch that without being brought to tears how beautiful their family is. first of all, bella seems to have turned a corner in terms of her immediate health crisis though she is still in intensive

care. have you spoken with rick santorum about bella recently or in the past? >> i have. i was on the phone with him earlier. he's back on the campaign trail in st. louis. bella turned the corner. she is doing much better. this is the first time they have hospitalized her. she is under constant care, they have nurses that come in. she is the center of focus around this family. 7 kids. rick is a great catholic father. and and i have a lot in common. i'm an over active baptist but he's a good catholic. the family is at the center of everything he does. it's part of his political life. the kids are on the campaign trail with him. megyn: let's talk about this disease. they say it's similar to down's syndrome. they say those pregnancies are

almost almost terminated when diagnosed. >> almost 90%. megyn: do you know if they knew there was an issue inutero? >> they knew there was an issue. it was when the senator was work on the issue of late-term abortions. they lost one of their children and this child was born later. necessity knew there was some issue but i don't think they newt severity. this is one of the problems parents face when there have these tests done prior to birth that show a defect. many insurance companies will not provide coverage for the care of the child so parents are forced to abort. almost 90% of children diagnosed

in the womb with this problem are abord. when rick campaigns as he did on these issues of life, it's not a political issue, it's a personal issue. i think people seat authenticity that's behind it. he lives out what he talks about. megyn: they predict that almost half the children born with it will die within the first three months of life. 90% will die within the first year and they call this disease trisomy 18 "incompatible with life." you look at the pictures and she doesn't look incompatible with life. >> if you look at many of these children who are born that have these severe birth defects, they tend to be the joy of the family. granted they oftentimes do not live very long.

but the time in which they are in the family, they bring such a richness to the family and understanding of how precious and valuable life is. rick will till and his wife karen, they do not regret a single day the effort and the extra time it takes to care for bella. their kids will say this. she is the joy of their life. megyn: when you reach out -- the family research council is a conservative group aopposed to abortion. women who are pregnant with a baby they know has down's syndrome, they know there will be enormous challenges ahead if they go through with the pregnancy. when you talk about the challenges, could anybody face them? could a single mother face them? could somebody without money face them? >> that's a great question if it is a significant challenge. when i was in office at state

level i passed legislation to inshoe that insurance companies could not deny coverage these parents based upon these free natal tests. the same thing has been happening at national level as well to insure -- rick has spoke on his over the healthcare law that was passed by the president -- that children like his would be denied coverage and we shouldn't do that. we should insure the parents have the benefit of knowing their child is going have access to healthcare regardless of these challenges. anyone who has met one of these children who suffers from a birth defect whether it's downs or other, they are such joys and they bring such happiness and innocence to the world and to the family in which they are in that parents that have made the choice of life never regret making that choice. megyn: sarah palin got

considerable attention when she was on the gop ticket because she as a child with down's syndrome, trig. that's something people knew about her. do you think there is something to be said for those folks who are running for office who walk the walk when it comes to the issue of life? >> without question, megyn. it's even more than that. it goes much deeper. when you see in today world we have this view that you have a personal life and a public life. that someone's family relationships have nothing to do with their public life. that simply not true, and you see that in candidates like rick santorum or elected officials like rick santorum. and governor palin. and i was the same way when i was in office. my kids have broken up in the public's eye and we engage the kids. i think it's important for those who serve in public office

because there are so many demand upon their family and their time. four my kids are outside the studio as i'm doing this interview. megyn: you speak of the joip -- he says in that piece. i look at joy, the simplicity and love she he mits and it's clear we are the disabled ones. she has got it right. she has a beautiful spirit, one that emits uncondition ago love. tony perkins, thank you so much. all our best to that little girl. in his new movie lee a.m. neeson -- liam neeson find himself being chased through the woods by a pack of wolves.

[ mujahid ] there was a little bit of trepidation, not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working.

and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪