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experience, that was in the irs three minutes. >> sean: good panel tonight. let your heart not be back at our usual time tomorrow. thanks for being with us. >> greta: tonight well now they're all going west, newt gingrich is on a plane headed to the next campaign hot spot. nevada. he's looking at florida in his rear view mirror and governor mitt romney celebrates an important win. where are ron paul and senator rick santorum? in nevada campaigning and senator santorum will be right here to go on the record. but first all important florida primary results. governor mitt romney with a commanding victory. speaker gingrich takes second. and congressman ron paul takes fourth place. >> thomas payne is reported to have said lead, follow or get out of the way. well... mr. president, you
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were elected to lead. you chose to follow. now, it's time for you to get out of the way. >> primary contests are not easy. they're not supposed to be. this primary and polls our opponents have been watching and they like to comfort themselves that a campaign will leave us divided and weak but i've got news for them. a competitive primary does not divide us. it prepares us, and well win. >> greta: it's not over yet. speaker gingrich is rouing to fight on. >> i'm not going to compete with obama in singing because i'm not running for entertainer in chief. i'm running for president. and i would say, mr. president, you cannot sing past a disaster of your presidency. now... we will immediately i
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put down my teleprompter. i said to my staff earlier, i'm having to wait because of a staff failure, if barack obama gets reelected it will be a disaster for the united states of america. make no bones about it. if he can have a record this bad, unemployment this bad, deficits this bad, policies this bad, gasoline prices this high and still get reelected you can't imagine how radical he'll be in the second term. >> greta: now, developments from the florida campaign head quarters and right now, griff jenkins joins us live from romney headquarters. i imagine they're clearing out now but a lot of excitement there. >> that is right, greta. it's quiet down here in tampa but it was a electrified standing room only. governor romney gave a speech, he was comfortable and they ate it up, breaking into chants. what happened here is significant. not only does governor romney
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win 50 delegates here, but he will win here with more votes than any other candidate in g.o.p. presidential history here in florida. he won virtually in every imaginable category. won amongst hispanics and won women, won late voters and he won conservatives and tea partiers. i spoke with attorney general who has been campaigning with governor romney. she told me she was not surprised in the least he won in the landslide because she campaigned with him more than a year and a half ago here in florida and it came down to organizations and mitt romney reaped benefits that have hard work. now, you mentioned nevada. going forward we have nevada and maine coming up, nevada has a large mormon population. romney may do very well there. newt probably on a plane on
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his way right now. maine, that of course mitt romney territory, he's got a strong hold there. then, you go forward to colorado, missouri, and minnesota. newt gingrich is not even on the ballot in missouri. and in minnesota, libby has thrown way back his support for governor rom neechl he's leaving here with big confidence and a very, very big win. if in history who won florida has gone on to win the g.o.p. nomination. >> now, steve harrigan is live in orlando. >> there were silence here when results were read behind me seemed like many people were expecting a defeat but perhaps not such a dramatic one here tonight. throughout the day newt gingrich remained defiant speaking with supporters outside of a polling station saying this is a fight that
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will go on no matter what results in florida. he expected it to go on five, six months from now. today, he made the case that now, it's a two-person race in florida and he said it's a question of people power versus money power, money power being romney campaign. as far as reasons for the dramatic turn around, in the gingrich campaign, many people are pointing at different reasons. they're saying he was out debated. others saying he was outorganized but one thing is clear. he was outspent in this campaign by the romney campaign. one detail stands out. that is the amount of advertisements run by both sides, by wednesday of last week, the romney campaign had run 13,000 television ads. and during that same period, gingrich campaign just 200. both did go negative both attacked each other personally.
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romney campaign operating with a much bigger hammer than the gingrich campaign. back to you. >> greta: next up, caucus in nevada is this saturday and that is where we find senator rick santorum, joining us. good evening, sir. >> how are you greta? >> greta: doing well. i've heard you answer this question but our audience might not know this. how is your daughter bella? you and i have spoken about her. tell our audience how is she doing? >> she's doing just great. i want to thank you and everybody out there for prayers. she had a very rough go of it and got great care at the hospital able to get turned around and we're hoping she'll leave the hospital as soon as tomorrow so we're very optimistic and we love having our cheerful little girl with us. >> greta: i knew that good news i wanted to make sure our audience did. now, the campaign. you're already in nevada.
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looking at las vegas sun, you say newt became the issue in florida. i'm curious is it really the -- did, was it newt became the issue or negative ads? just trying to tear each other apart? >> newt became the issue in the sense there was a lot of negative ads but a lot of negative ads about newt history and position on issues and frankly, newt's misbehavior. that to me is not the kind of candidate we need to win as a conservative in republican primary. we have a moderate massachusetts governor. we need a strong principled conservative. he doesn't have baggage or the ability to self destruct. someone that can go out there with a message to beat mitt romney and importantly be able to defeat barack obama at the general election where he is the issue. not our candidates.
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>> greta: was the issue because he was the main challenger at the time to governor romney? when you look at spending, 13,000 ads run in z.200 ads by gingrich campaign. if you're counting that much money, is it about the person? or about the ad? >> well, clearly governor romney has, you know had an advantage on the ads. i'm not sure if that includes the super pack ads chi think they defended $5 million down there. and so ging rip competed with a big lead, went in there with big bucks in state of south carolina. he wasn't able to hold that lead. he lost it badly. and that is you know, he had an opportunity to make the point that he was the guy. and we didn't feel we can
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compete and given the size of the state and the state of our campaign from the standpoint of money. we raised about $4.5 million in the month of january which newt gingrich and you know, he had a much bigger vote coming out of south carolina than we did sort of a disputed delayed victory in iowa. we raised more money today than any other day one one online. we're getting a sense and a feeling out here in nevada and colorado and missouri and minnesota i've been to four states already in two days, we're getting a sense conservatives are looking elsewhere to find someone who can better match up against mitt romney and can be that principled conservative and draw a better contract with barack obama in the general election. >> greta: talking about conservatives, las vague yag yas sun said according to republicans in las vegas will be a challenging task for you than in iowa meaning iowa and nevada republicans are
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different. how do you meet that challenge? secondly, tomorrow you intend, i assume to go after governor romney because you have a speech about health care about president obama a.and governor rom nee. two part question. >> yeah. well, look. you saw the state of florida we had highest favorable railtings in the race but weren't spending money down there or time everybody else was. people liked us and if you look again at polls almost every gingrich voter if they didn't vote for newt was going to vote for me that. is not the case with our voters. they didn't see him as a conservative alternative. but we believe that there is a large block of votes out there here in nevada and here in colorado and out west and across the country that goring to start to see conservatives who can articulate a vision and win in the general election. that is what we're focused on. >> but it's not so.
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it -- winning general election you've got to get the nomination first. if you don't organization money and money to clobber the other person in ads. we've seen this negative ads work. so you need money you and need to win nomination before focusing on the general. >> well, greta, that is true but look at this, if the case for mitt romney is i've got the most money and i can beat up anyone who comes along to get in my way that is not a particularly strong argument to make because guess what? barack obama is going to have way more money than mitt romney and national media on his side. beat the living day lights out of him f the answer is whoever has most money wins republican nomination that isn't going to be. you need who is going to have the best record and the best message to be able to go out and take on barack obama knowing that you're going to be outspent and be beat up.
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but being able to discuss that mitt romney does not provide that. that is the problem here. he's not going to be able to bully and beat up obama sense res. he's not going to have that advantage and not going to have the organizational advantage. he needs to have track record advantage and he doesn't. >> greta: i'm curious, candidates for senate sharon angle and tea party. to what extent are you looking for their support? is she still a factor? terms of generating enthusiasm there? >> we welcome everybody's support. and i actually spoke at a tea party event this afternoon. and there are folk who's did support sharon angle. she's still involved. in politics and someone who you know we supported when she won the primary. she was running here in the general and we contributed to her campaign and supported
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her. doing a radio show, i would be deal yaited with -- delighted with her endorsement and anybody else out here these next few states we'd love their help and support here in the next few days. >> greta: thank you, sir, we're pulling for dell bela and hope to talk to you again, soon, sir. >> thanks greta, god bless. bye-bye. >> greta: newt gingrich has florida in his rear view mirror plotting a strategy for the next big contest, nevada. speaker gingrich will give you a sneak peek z jackie gingrich has ridden the campaign roller coaster with her father. how does she think he can build momentum? and an exciting day here at fox news channel. we got to do something unusual. what was it? what was it? why did we get the honor?
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>> typically, to nevada, obviously, there is a large mormon stronghole there, you are up against that and there is a large tea party faction. they tend to be more conservative. is that your strategy? >> first of all, i don't think mormons vote monolitheically. i think a lot of folks will look at governor romney's record, which even for nevada is pretty far to the left. i think we will get some folks from the republican community. and there is a big independent movement in nevada. so we hope to compete -- you have fosay that nevada has a big advantage for romney. he carried the state last time. it's one of the few places where he got a mairment last time. so he has a pretty good chance of doing that. but we will be very competitive. >> reporter: you turned up the heat on governor romney in south carolina. you seem to have perhaps backed down in terms of fighting back. will you turn the heat back up, going forward? >> i would rather think that we are going to clarify what the
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choices are. i have a record of having helped balance the budget for four consecutive years and reforming welfare, the biggest entitlement reform of our lifetime and twice helping create jobs, one with reagan and once as speaker. you look at that and romneycare and massachusetts ended up being third from the bottom in job creation while he was governor. a pretty big gap in those two things. so what you will see us try to do is offer a clarification and make, and really try to get him to stick to the facts. and i think at that point, the race becomes very clear. >> reporter: a potential game changer, rick santorum. if he were to drop out and give support to you, would that solidify -- >> well -- first of all, rick has every right to run. people told me in uniand july i was dead. i ignored them and kept running, he has every right to run. i think his strategy is to hang in and see if something happens and that's legitimate.
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from a conservative movement standpoint, what i would say to everybody else, let rick run, that's his prerogative. but i need to you join me. we will try to appeal to every conservative to come together. if you look at florida and south carolina, it's pretty clear, i am the one conservative candidate with enough momentum and base that i can compete, you know, head to head with romney and have a chance to beat him. we are very proud of the fact that we have, i think as offed today, 156,000 downers. that's a pretty big national base from which to be able to organize a campaign. >> reporter: donald trump has gotten back in the news, saying he will endorse him. have you had any conversations with him. >> i saw the dwelled in new york. he is capable of getting in the news. obviously, if he does endorse, i hope he endorses me. it's a big help to have governor palin to say she would have voted for me in south carolina and florida and to have todd palin doing phone calls for us.
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it would be fun to have him get involved. >> now we go live to the gingrich campaign headquarters in orlando. his daughter, jackie is here. good evening, jackie. >> good evening, greta. >> greta: i am sure you are disappointed. >> we are not surprised at all. we knew before we won south carolina, we knew coming into florida, it would be a very different race. the big state, very different demographic. i think you mentioned, there was a lot of money spent in florida. i think we were out-spent 4 or 5 to 1. so we are not very surprised about the outcome. but i think what you heard from my father tonight here at the hotel, was really a vision for an optimistic america, an offer to work with people and to really create the bright future with conservative values that we
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need today. >> greta: what's the strategy for winning in nevada? do you have the monet and ground game there already? >> a couple of things. first of all, we are raising more and more money every single day, every single week, every single month. i think you will continue to see that happen as the conservative core coalesces around dad, as he mentioned earlier in this segment. we have people working out in the state. again, this is one of the states that went to romney last time. so we don't want to set our sights too high. it is no longer -- after iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and florida, it's a multi-state game. it is no longer one state after the other. so have you to look ahead to super tuesday and the states in play. we are very much looking forward to that. >> greta: well, if you look at the conventional wisdom, looking ahead, it's a rough schedule for you because have you coming up, the minnesota caucuses and governor pawlenty, who has endorsed governor rom if he felt have you michigan coming up. i would assume with romney
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connection in michigan, that he has the leg up in that one. have you missouri coming up and your father didn't make the ballot there. that's a beauty contest. but still, this is a rough couple of weeks for your campaign. have you to look beyond it a little bit, don't you? >> oh, absolutely. i love the way you said "a beauty contest." we don't want to run a beauty contest for anybody. this is a very serious rest. dad's right, senator santorum has every right to run, he's a great guy. he has been helping to reform welfare under dad. but nationally, there are two main candidates, governor romney and my father, newt gingrich. part of what this process is about is really honing the message, talk about this core conservative values. i think the farther we go along, the clearer the contrast will be between my father who, balanced the budget nationally who, reformed welfare, cut spending and cut taxes and governor romney. >> greta: jackie, i talked to so many of the children of the -- of the candidates.
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this time and in '08. i think it's so rough, especially nights like this because you love your father, it's tough to see a loss. i was curious your thoughts, how rough it is on you tonight? >> well, actually, i will be very honest. we had a great dinner before we came out. we were very upbeat. he delivered, i am sure you probably watched it, his speech was out of the park. it was great. so we are very excited about where we are. >> greta: i thought that listening to his speech -- i was surprised, he didn't congratulate governor romney. why not? >> well, i think he is looking forward. i think he is not -- we are glad to come to florida and it did winnow the pack down to the few who are here. governor romney and my father were here tonight. we are looking forward. this is one of the four state it's we are looking forward to the other 46. >> greta: the routine is that the candidates get up and say congratulations to the winner, ran a great race. see nunevada. he didn't say that. is that indicate -- did he
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forget to? or does it show how deep the wound might be in florida? >> no. i love the fact that you put routine and newt gingrich in the same sentence. dad is anything but routine. so clearly, he is focused on the future ahead. it didn't mean anything by that. but he is focused on moving forward. >> greta: did he call governor romney tonight? >> i honestly don't know, gret a. i can't speak to that. >> greta: so what are your plans? are you heading to nevada? >> we are heading that bay way and very excited to go well and see the people. we are looking forward to that. this is a long trail and that is the next state. but after that, there will be 45 more. we are very excited about where we are am i really think he delivered an incredible speech. i invite everyone to look at. it he told me afterward when is i congratulated him on the message. he said, you know what? look forward to the next phase of our campaign. he had a big smile on his face. >> greta: jackie, thank you. hope you will come back. >> thank you so much.
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>> greta: coming up, believe it or not, there is a good chance that the race will get wildert and candidates will tackle the west and each other. did the key florida primary set them up? we have a guest next. despite the big win, new questions about mitt romney's campaign strat strategy. byron york goes on the record. if there was a pill
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i think i'm disappointing governor romney but i am happy he got hit hard. if you can't deal with what you're getting hit with now just wait until the billion dollar obama machine opens up. >> greta: i don't think he got hit dollar for dollar. he, i forgot the number but it was more his side spent. >> yes. >> greta: not like he got a full scale assault. >> he's been a front runner since the beginning when there were nine candidates later five, now, four he's been a target and also, he has s play -- . >> greta: they consider him the candidate. >> they don't want to run against him. so he's been getting hit
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consistently. so during this process, you know one state, one candidate getting hit, and he's been getting hit, governor romney consistently. i think that made him a stronger candidate. i think, again, nothing compares to what whoever the nominee is. is going to receive from negative campaign coming from the obama administration obama campaign. and look. what is the issue that has everybody more concerned? jobs. clinton would say it's the economy, it's important for all americans. imagine getting latino community in florida unemployment almost 14%. as important as jobs, the economy and lack therefore, and destruction of the economy by obama is for everybody, for hispanics it's even more. >> greta: didn't governor huntman say that the decision
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was to rank 47th engineer job creation? if job creation is key, he gets hit with that number every time he turns around. >> he's going to get hit with that and more. when we say that this president has failed has been a failed presidency it's not just you saying so. it's because bench mark was established by president obama. he said how to judge him. he said that if these bills were to be passed unemployment would not raise%. by now, it's 6%. so according to his bench marks he's been a failure. >> greta: in two months unemployment has gone down. i think it continues to go down between now and november that is not going to be a factor. and there last two months, i
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don't think the republicans who relie on that number if the number goes down. >> first i hope they're wrong, the report says unemployment rate dropped a little bit and that goitsing to continue to go up and up. >> greta: if the level strikes upward i think that is key. >> here is the other issue. i don't think in our country we're willing to accept if we get to 8%. those are western europe-type numbers. that is what we think the president wants to take us towards a western european type of model. i don't think the american people are willing to accept that as a model. >> greta: i think every unagrees it's a terrible economy and i think people will be looking at trends rather than absolute numbers. he's running out of time. >> he is. >> greta: but between now and november he's got what?
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nine, 10 months but he's -- i think they'll be looking at trends. i don't know which way the trend s if its in his favor... >> he put knit writing and said it until he was blue in the face those are his standards. and we'd be at% nouchl i don't think anyone expects numbers at 6%. there is another issue nobody is talking about. creeping gasoline fiss. and they're the buck stops at the desk of obama who stopped the pipeline and drilling. >> greta: that will be the trend, it depends on the trend. congressman nice to see you good to see you. >> greta: coming up does governor romney need to change strategy? why do we ask that? we'll be here to explain, next. and it may be primary day with you but there is another big event today. can you guess what it is? here is a hint.
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quote, find comfort knowing that mom and dad are in a better place, frefrom any worries. i'm ainsley earhardt. back to "on the record." check out our web site for more headlines at foxnews.com. >> greta: tonight governor romney makes florida by a huge margin but no time tone joy the win. it's on to nevada. governor romney's florida strategy work in nevada? and byron york joins us from tampa. the strategy is that the one he takes to nevada? >> well, first of all he's going to do very well in nevada. mitt romney won nevada in 2008 with 51% of the vote with a large mormon population that went 95 for romney last time around. i don't think it's walking on a him too far to say he's going to win nevada what is interesting about this
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businessman thing is that i i've been watching him on a stop in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina now, in florida. there are speeches he gives when he talks about his business experience almost never mentions he was the governor of massachusetts. what he's trying to say is i've been a businessman and have been a success. i know how jobs are created and i can fix our economy. interesting thing is that if you look back and see how often did americans elect businessmen presidents it hasn't happened often. you have to go back to herbert hoover to find the last guy elected on a mostly business platform. >> all right. courting business in what you said a supermarket or start up business. that i've got that concept. i'm curious how to create jobs as a governor and if governor huntsman was correct massachusetts was 47th what happened?
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>> and that is between huntsman and rick perry, no longer in the race. question is how do state governments create an atmosphere in which private businesses create more jobs? and romney says it is a fact he's massachusetts under mitt romney did not lead the nation in job creation but romney is relying on his business past. >> if the president has bee been -- i he assume the president if you're saying creates atmosphere so jobs can be created and republican ideology is that you cut regulation and taxes if that had so far down the poll isn't that an extreme point of vulnerability?
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>> romney will have republicans united on this. they believe the president imposed too many new regulations on the economy. >> how do they explain mass mis? >> how does he explain massachusetts? >> massachusetts is going to be, yeah. well, first romney says yeah. massachusetts is about 85% democrats so he couldn't get all he wanted but that is going to be a problem for him. appealing to republicans and tough for him in primaries because massachusetts clearly one of the liberal states in the country. and mitt romney's record there is that newt gingrich might say as a moderate. i think that will work better for him in general election. >> greta: speaker gingrich said people power will defeat money power, that might be optimistic. we've seen the power of money
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in politics. >> i think that with newt gingrich we need to come back in a week or two and see how things look then. tonight he's vowing to go on. he doesn't have a lot of chances to make much impact until super tuesday, march 6th nl. what is he going to do six weeks? is he going to compete in contests between now and then? not clear what he's going to do with his major financial backer continues to back him? right now he's saying he's going to go on. >> greta: i want to note the ambient noise behind you is interesting. sounds like they're packing up, you better hurry out of there or you're going to get locked in. >> thank you. >> greta: straight ahead it was a very big night for governor romney. next up, saturday and nevada caucus, rick klein with a look
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and then, february 7, missouri primary. february 28th arizona and michigan primaries march is jam packed with contests. super tuesday is march 6. what will final four candidates face down the road? rick kline joins us. good evening, rick. >> hi, greta. >> greta: a about. c news and i know it because i saw it. tell us what is the news about mitt romney that abc broke? >> abc news learned this is a big step in the campaign to acknowledge what a political campaign is. if the ask hemplan cain is receiving secret service. and it will be a statement about why wr this romney campaign is headed. >> usually if you're the nominee which he is not, or if
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there has been a series of threats or if you ask for it or pay for it. do you know why he's getting it? >> our understanding is that he was concerned about growing crowds in new hampshire. i think after a win like this, it's the logical next step. have you to look at the map and the season now. and he is the clear front run skbrer a favor troit win. >> greta: now, on to nevada i think one of the interesting things in the newspaper in nevada by congressman ron paul he thinks they should stop taxing tips. but tell me, take a look at nevada. immigration and issue will that hurt governor romney? >> you didn't see knit florida. and mitt romney won northern half of the vote. and he lost primary condition but won in nevada because he had a strong organization that matters in caucuses.
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and i think its fair to say he's going to have a good week. and probably in maine as well, and so he's got favorable debates coming up. >> why is the tea party in nevada? >> that is what karen angle is go tok take on hairy reid in 2010. i think tea party is a back up. we've seen in cases like these we've seen mitt romney doing well among tea partiers. among people that just sort of liked them or identified with the tea party he's done fairly well, it's not that -- there are elements likely to line up now with newt gingrich. gingrich doesn't have a lot going on in nevada. >> and how about money >> money is an acute issue for newt gingrich. he's got to pick battles now.
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he's running out of states to go in there to try to make a movement on the ground. and if you look there are six states in february february. mitt romney won five of the six but he's a favorite and it starts in nevada and ends in michigan. so if you're looking for places to gain approval there aren't a lot of friendly places on that map. >> greta: must have been very interesting. saturday is the day nevada and maine caucus and we'll be watching. rick, thank you. coming up on the record and fox news channel are celebrating and there is a good reason. you'll see why bells are ringing, next. capital one's new cash rewards card
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>> greta: we're celebrating fox news channel's 10th year as number one cable news channel. times square was lit up celebrating the occasion z he had the honor to ring the opening bell in new york city. take a look. >> times square, can you believe it? me. times square. >> okay. this is really fun for on the record not only is it the 10 year anniversary of fox news channel being number one in all cable news but >> ord ord's approaching its 10-year anniversary as of february 4. what a hoot this is for me. i'm about to go on television for nasdaq in times square t. doesn't get much better than
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that. take a look at this. take a look at this room. isn't this fabulous? 10 years, number 1 cable news channel. but that's only the beginning. wait until the next 10 years. 9:30 here in new york. time to buy, america! bi. fox n. fox business. we have been number one 10 years, what about that? we have been number 1 for 10 years! >> thanks again to the nasdaq for helping us celebrate our fox news milestone, number 1 for 10 years. can you believe that? that's fabulous. thanks for joining us tonight. we will see you tro
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