>> brian: okay, good. >> gretchen: they're going to in a poll they did supported join us in the after the show making plan b available. show. tomorrow, herman cain, karl rove we value student input on matters that directly pertain to and tony braxton, make it a their health and safety. these results were an important great day. part of the decision making process. >> brian: thanks. >> steve: thank you for watching. see you back here tomorrow. as a parent who is a couple years away from paying for college tuition, dr. london, this horrifies me. why on earth would you let the santorum. pulling off a three-state students make the decision when sweep, sending shockwaves most of them are not old enough through the race for the to have a drink. republican nomination last >> they can go to the local cvs night. >> wow! and get it. [cheers and applause] martha: this takes a little bit of effort. >> i think they are more likely to get counseled, they've at least taken the step of preventing yet another potential conservatism is alive and consequence of an act that they well. may or may not have been tonight was just not a involved with. victory for us, but tonight martha: the fear here is they was a victory for the voices are going to use this as a form of our party, conservatives of birth control. >> and it will happen. and tea party people. bill: well, santorum taking martha these young women are missouri. showing up over and over again, also minnesota here on the screen. every monday morning, and minnesota, 45% of the vote. without some real supervision, some help they are making bad romney came in third. decisions. colorado santorum 40% of the this was a bad decision by the vote. back in missouri, 55% of obama administration.

>> 50% of unintended pregnancies that vote for a clean sweep last night. occur in women using santorum got out the broom. contraception. >> it doesn't work very well. good morning, everybody, i'm the university of san francisco bill hemmer. who saw this one coming? said and princeton. good morning. martha: we didn't. martha: the point where we have i went to bed last night before the results were plan b pills in vending machines you have to take a step back and final and looked this morning, said wow, look what wonder what happens before that even becomes necessary. happened last night that is what keeps it interesting. dr. london thank you. that's why we're here. i appreciate your input on it. good morning, i'm martha maccallum. penny nance, my thanks to you as mitt romney didn't try to well. hot topic. thanks, ladies. put a big spin on this in bill: "happening now" rolls your his favor. he said it was a good night way in 11 short minutes. jon scott is cooking up a bunch for rick santorum, no doubt about it but he expects he of stuff. jon: a stan tore yum sweep in will be the nominee. >> more americans have lost their job during president three states. obama's term than any other colorado, minnesota and president in modern history and more americans have lost missouri, what it means for his campaign and the run for the their homes during president white house. obama's term than any other a dramatically deteriorating in modern history. under his own definition, situation in syria. president obama has failed. could the united states be we will walk seed. involved? this is time for real change, and will israel go after iran? that is the subject of an op-ed in washington. fundamental, and bold change. i stand before you ready to to explain his point of view. the second part of our lead this party and to lead

the nation. bill: there is a whole lot to analyze this morning. "washington post"'s let's go to the results from investigative report of corruption on washington hill. late last night. if you were not up deep into and continuing our conversation with the army about a medivac the night here is what happened. policy that some say is harming in the state of missouri in our touch-screen billboard, our troops, the army's point of view coming up "happening now." bill: we'll see you at the top santorum won every county in of the hour with all that. missouri. it is south carolina versus the romney, 25% of the vote. four years ago, this was a department of justice, why that state just filed a lawsuit tight race between mccain, huckabee and romney. against the attorney general, mccain won the state. romney at 29%. eric holder. he dropped 4 points in 2012 compared to his results from 2008 four years ago. up here in minnesota now, rick santorum a winner here as well. 45% of the vote. romney was down here at 17%. again you see the red. fill in the map here in the state of minnesota. four years ago, minnesota, romney swept this place with 41% of the vote. he dropped 24 points in the caucus results from last night. similar story out here in colorado where santorum ran through this state yet again. 40%, beating romney by five points. romney with 35% of the vote.

4 years ago, romney had 60% of the vote. he dropped 25 points four years. what romney team will tell you all the counties around city of denver, douglas county, arapaho county a place wrecked by the economy past three and four years and here in denver county where you find the city of denver obviously. i want to bring in stephen hayes, weekly writer, "weekly standard", fox news contributor. what do you make of this? good morning. >> wow, what a night. this was very interesting night on number of levels. mitt romney after the saturday after the nevada caucuses took a sharp turn toward the general election. he barely mentioned in his opponents after his speech and victory in nevada two days ago. florida was just a week ago. he had resounding victory in florida. here we are with rick santorum a clean sweep.

three states, as many states as mitt romney haswon in total. so rick santorum has won more states than mitt romney, 4-3. even if missouri doesn't technically count, there are no delegates allocated because of results that is pretty convincing victory in a state turned out 250,000 people. bill: these voters are the true believers in the republican ideas. they are the ones spending time to vote yesterday. what does that tell you?. >> i think that is the key point. look back to the florida results. mitt romney was only got three of 10 voters who self-identified as very conservative. these are exactly voters rick santorum has been targeting all along. sound if his message is resonating with those voters. he has been very consistent pounding mitt romney on romneycare. pounding barack obama on obamacare. all of it came to a head this week with news about the administration decision with respect to the catholics and the hhs. bill: what the map showed us four years ago, romney was considered the conservative

candidate. now he is considered the moderate. it was mccain had that role four years ago. where does all of this leave newt gingrich with his performance? >> i think he is in trouble. i think that was a bad night for newt gingrich last night. he didn't participate in missouri. he took third in one contest. fourth in the other. missed taking fourth in both contests by just 600 votes. i think it will be hard for him to pick up the phone this morning and make phone calls to the fund-raisers and say i'm the candidate you need to invest on. if this case was being the nonromney candidate, i think rick santorum has a good argument he is now that bill: we have new developments candidate. bill: just yesterday gingrich said he would go in the battle over south all the way to california carolina's voter id law. which is early june. the state suing the justice what time did you go to bed department after it blocked the last night? >> i left here a little law that requires voters to show after 2:00. i was in bed, 3:00, 3:15. government-issued photo id's at bill: nicely done. the polls. thanks for getting up early. judge andrew napolitano, good stephen hayes. martha: we that steve hayes. what he said it was a bad morning to you. night for newt gingrich. you've got an issue with this. the former speaker is

already setting his sights >> i do have an issue with it. on ohio where he took a this is really a bizarre swipe at mitt romney. creature in our law which take a look. >> i come out of the reagan permits the attorney general of wing, the kemp wing of the the united states to invalidate republican party where we a law that a state has even think our cree ate tore acted. normally if somebody doesn't endowed every single like a law they challenge it. american with the right to you can challenge it in the pursue happiness, every state or federal courts. congress is so desirous of single american. [applause] the fact is, food stamps and getting its hands into the safety nets become a spiders state's regulations of voting. remember the constitution left web that gets people stuck the regulation of voting, who votes, when they vote, how they at the bottom because it vote to the state. teacheses them deenfennsy. it's the act of this legislation that permits the attorney general to invalidate a state's voting law. south carolina comes along and martha: ohio holds its march says we have a problem with people voting, we don't know who 6th. nine other contests that they are. we don't know if they voted in day. bill: last night's contest more than one place or if they did not officially award the winner all the delegates are registered. we want them to produce an i.d. from each state. the delegate count is what indiana does the same thing. you need. indiana's law is upheld by the minnesota, colorado, supreme court of the united missouri have a long, drawn states. south carolina offers and signs out process. the same law. bill: i think it's valid ince rick san francisco's finish >> yes.

bill: how is the law in south puts him 45 delegates. carolina co constructed a candidate needs 1144 differently than you find in delegates to be the nominee indiana or georgia? and take on president obama. >> that's where politics come we've got a long way to go. in. it is now february. if the attorney general of the martha: long way to go, united states can hold up the right. some of those delegates could be changed at enforcement of this law shall we convention in some cases say as long as november he might although they usually be able to influence the voting aren't. all the stuff is a little in south carolina. confusing if you look the i think that south carolina way the numbers are put in believes that, and i think there the column of each person. is evidence for them to believe keep it right here. that. and i understand their fox news is your election frustration with a bureaucrat in headquarters of course. all you need to know about the candidates, campaigns washington invalidate ago state law. that is not the way the and delegate count. foxnews.com is the place to constitution was written. go for that. the constitution doesn't authorize this. you and your front row seat. but the elites have gone along with it. you will need a seatbelt bill: back to the question, is south carolina fundamentally here. let's look at overseas news. what a situation is different from indiana and unfolding on the ground in georgia based on the way the law syria and it is one that all is set up. of these candidates and the >> no, that is a great white house are watching question. very closely right now. the one that eric holder the white house says it is invalidated is nearly identical not considering military action to stop the bloody to the one that the supreme crackdown from president court upheld in indiana. assad. the european union is that's south carolina's talking about new sanctions. complaint.

you know you're going to lose meanwhile the shelling of mr. holder. syrian cities continues. why are you doing it and doing it now. bill: you can go to the state the path to peace is getting and get a photo id. uglier and much more difficult for the people of syria. >> you don't have to have a leland vittert joins us now. driver's license. you can do it in ever state of he is live in jerusalem with the union, they give you a valid this report what is the very government issued id then you latest there. good morning, leland. can vote. >> reporter: good morning, bill: we'll see how it turns martha. out, whether it drags out. speaking of the u.s. and the >> i think it will drag out. e.u., we saw video coming there will be a lot more to observe fromhi freedom watch eat out of syria posted by activists in english were begging for help in terms of stopping the crackdown only on the fox about it inside the city of homs. network. thank you, judge. martha: lawmakers who bring home they say it is getting worse the pork. there. that is coming up. and details about members of artillery barrages continue congress who are pushing and very little water and electricity has been cut off projects that benefit their own and they are running out of families. oh, my. [ male announcer ] we know you don't wait medical supplies. they report about 100 people killed each day and rpg's until the end of the quarter to think about your money... and heavy artillery come ♪ flying in. that right now, you want to know where you are, yesterday the syrian government promised to stop and where you'd like to be. the violence. today it seems as though we know you'd like to see they're doing anything but. the same information your advisor does so you can get a deeper understanding martha: leland, the syrian of what's going on with your portfolio. government of course is we know all this because we asked you, heavily criticized for the actions that are being taken

on the ground. and what we heard helped us create pnc wealth insight, have they started to fight back against those accusations in any way? a smarter way to work with your pnc advisor, >> reporter: it is interesting, for a while so you can make better decisions and live achievement. they kept saying it is terrorists causing all the violence but now they have started their own organized propaganda campaign on syrian state television. they posted video purporting to show attacks by the rebels against the syrian army allegedly. the free syrian army. that is mostly syrian soldiers who defected to the other side. they say they attacked a college and possibly attacked a oil refinery there. maybe some reverse psychology trying to get more people not to defect because at some point, if the syrian army continues to walk away to the other side rather than kill their own fellow citizens, assad will have a very difficult time --. martha: all right. i think we lost leland's audio. that is similar situation what we saw playing out in libya, when you started to see the army defecting and the iron fist of qaddafi trying to hold onto them.

we're seeing some of that in syria as well. a tough situation. bill: we're just getting started this morning. in a moment we'll investigate the mystery illness in new york state. what is causing some high school teenagers to shake out of control? our medical a-team is on that. dr. marc siegel has been there and will join us with his findings. >> some lawmakers are making more in retirement than in office. what troubled states are doing to end to that. plus this. >> water 91. a huge plume and aware. be careful. >> we need you to withdraw from the structure immediately. bill: wow! now just hearing those 911 calls after josh powell set fire to his house. killing himself and his two young sons. details on that investigation as they are new and fresh this morning, coming your way in a matter of moments here. that's good morning, veggie style.

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martha: well, another teenage medical mystery. this one happening in

washington state. after a weekend cheerleading competition left 19 of the squads seriously ill. several reportedly hospitalized after the state tournament in the city of everett. those affected had diarrhea and vomiting all types of illness. the health department, saying the illness and cause of it still unclear. bill: another mystery coming up in 30 minutes. stay tuned for that. states are drowning in red ink. and some lawmakers scaling back on their own pension plans, closing loopholes that allow thousands to earn more in retirement than they were in office. idaho, iowa, illinois, kansas, kentucky, minnesota, new jersey, south carolina, all on the list headed by republicans trying to crack down. some states looking at perks of state employees who are not lawmakers as well. john fund, senior editor for "the american spectator". john, good morning to you. we got a figure here. total u.s. pension bill, high as $3 trillion. is that what you have?

>> yes. and there is no end in sight. several cities including chicago, boston, philadelphia, are literally going to run out of money to pay pensions in a few years. bill: with that as a backdrop you found that government workers are paid about three bucks every hour toward their retirement. and private employers pay about 92 cents. now, if you're going to balance your books something has got to give here. >> right. look, our public servants are in danger of becoming our public masters. they're doing much better in terms of benefits and even salary than the people who pay their bills, the taxpayers. look, less than 20% of private sector workers have a traditional pension now. over 85% of public sector workers, government sector workers have defined benefit pension. everybody else gets 401(k)s. we've got to equalize that so the people paying the bills aren't soaked by the people who are spending our money. bill: do they have a receptive office these

governors trying to change this? >> there is no money for basic things like infrastructure, repairing roads. certain educational programs. if we continue to fund these pensions, funding government employees who no longer work for us, we'll have no money for anything else including a lot of things that are very worthy. everything else gets squeezed out by the pension boom. bill: what we found out in south carolina, lawmakers in office get a pension while they're in office. that is novel. nikki haley is trying to crack down on that. the that is one issue. the other is called sick pay. when martha was talking with chris christie back in december. he brought this up. listen to it. we'll address it after this. >> going forward the taxpayer should no longer pay for someone not being sick. if you're not sick, that's the gift. martha: you don't need to stay home for a sick day. >> that is your gift. you're not sick. thank god for the fact that you're not healthy. don't have your hand out. what folks call this in new jersey because they're getting six figure check

when they walk out. they call it the boat check. they use it to buy a boat. bill: that is great for the boat business but not for balancing your books. >> a lot of local governments in new jersey you can accumulate sick leave. if you're never sick, you get, 10, 15, 20 days put in the account. it is cumulative. if you serve 20 or 30 years in local or state government you take out a six-figure check that is ridiculous. sick leave is for when you're sick. not for you to build up a second, basically the equivalent of a second pension in addition to the one you have. bill: there are some states, alaska, kentucky, they don't allow this policy? >> oh, i think this is spreading. clearly not something anyone in the private sector gets as a privilege. again, what's fair is, equalizing the private sector treatment that we may have out there with the government sector treatment. that is just fair because, remember, we're paying the bills for both. the. bill: yeah. john, thanks for coming in. we'll see whether or not this gets more traction. >> thank you. david: there is a push in

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bill: the death of a 12-year-old lacrosse player, raising new questions about

the safety of that sport. tyler cobb out of rochester, new york, died after he was hit in the chess by a lacrosse ball. doctors believe the hard rubber ball disrupted his heart beat. trainers and parents are reacting to this. >> makes you think as a parent am i doing everything i can do to make sure my son or daughter is properly equipped and protected. >> is lacrosse equipment put together to keep kids safe? >> i think they do a pretty good job and over the course of years it is improving. bill: he was hit yesterday. he died later and authorities are have not announced a official cause of death. martha: well, here's another awful story for you this morning. chilling 911 calls have been released from the moment a man set fire to his home with himself and his two young sons inside. josh powell was long considered a person of interest in his wife susan's disappearance. we hear from a horrified social worker who explains exactly what powell did

after she dropped his sons off for a visit with him. listen to this. martha: oh, what an unbelievably awful tape that is. and now everybody wondering if anything could have been ton to prevent this? dan springer is live in seattle. dan, this case took a terrible turn but it is not over yet. so what happens now? >> reporter: well, martha, we knew that that 911 call

from the caseworker was going to be gripping and it certainly was. can you imagine being her? there are other new developments in the case. we learned prosecutors in utah had been pursuing the susan powell disappearance as a first-degree murder case at least for the last six months. also police say josh powell made a $7,000 bank withdrawal on saturday, one day before torching his house and killing his boys. no word what happened to the money. and there were those 911 calls. many more released by police yesterday including calls from neighbors, who were frantic watching the house burn and calls from people who received the last minute e-mails from josh powell. >> i just saw on the news there was a problem today and i did receive a strange e-mail from him that he sent at 12:05 today. >> okay. >> he hasn't personally contacted me but i did receive an e-mail. >> what did the e-mail say? >> i'm sorry good-bye. >> god, i don't know. >> you see smoke and fire?

>> yes. and a loud, huge boom. and there's crap flying all over the place. dark smoke. and there's other people that can see it. >> reporter: local prosecutor here in peers county, said powell's final act mounted to a confession that he killed his wife. martha? martha: dan, lawmakers in washington state looking at this situation. you just have to wonder given the investigation going on for first-degree murder, and the fact he was person of interest early on how could he have this time alone with his children in the first place? >> reporter: a lot of questions being raised by state lawmakers about visitation. the lawmakers and the department of social services are looking into why visitations were allowed to take place at josh powell's house. we learned he just rented that place a couple months ago. apparently was still living in his father's house a mile and a half away. initially the court ordered twice a week visitations. they were taking place in a

neutral location which experts say is standard procedure in cases where a parent is under investigation. >> here we have a guy who is a person of interest in the disappearance of his wife. you have the guy's father who is in jail for some other disgusting stuff related to children. and the supervision is okay for visitation but a visitation at the home is just not appropriate. >> reporter: of course it also could on just a judge's ruling in that case. we'll have to find out. also last night police searched a storage locker rented by josh powell. we understand they took some items but nothing of immediate note. a funeral for the boys will be held on saturday. martha? martha: what a tragedy. what an awful, awful story, dan. thank you for the update on that. unbelievable. bill: we've got breaking news out of missouri now. a teenager moments ago confessed to killing a 9-year-old girl was sentenced to life in prison. pleading guilty to fatally

stabbing liz both o the lden fall of 2009. she wrote in her journal that committing the crime was quote, amazing. verdict in or sentence moments ago out of the state of missouri. how about that? martha: that is twisted story. a very awful situation. so back to politics now for a moment. rick san francisco's three-state sweep is being called a stun they are morning. just so you significant is it in the long term of this election? will it be enough to throw mitt romney off his stride? bill: also a daredevil will attempt the world's highest free fall from space to the edge of the earth. we'll ask an astronaut how a rocketman can pull this off. martha: or why they would want to. ♪ . are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert

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martha: what a big night last night. presidential candidate rick santorum jumps into second place now in the race for the delegates after his three-state sweep last night. he picked up at least 28 delegates. that brings him to 45. now he is in second place. you can see them laid out there. romney with 107, gingrich at 32 and paul with 9. they need 1144. so everybody is long way from clinching the delegate race in all this. here is rick santorum last night after his big win. >> i don't stand here to claim to be the conservative alternative to mitt romney.

i stand here to be the conservative alternative to barack obama. [cheers and applause] martha: ed rollins joins me now, former deputy chief of staff to president reagan. he managed the reagan re-election campaign in 1984 and has had major roles in nine other campaigns and good news for us a fox news contributor. >> good morning. what a turnaround. martha: what a night. what does this mean? >> it means santorum has a couple weeks to put organization and raise money and get ready for super tuesday. i think it was a bad night for gingrich. although gingrich certainly isn't out. conservatives are desperately look for someone to carry their flag. san tore rum has the opportunity to put it together. as you look at all the cultural battles going on. the battle with the white house, catholic church. rick is lifelong catholic dedicated to the cause and we will have a lot of support. martha: he has not had his moment in the sun as we saw herman cain had and others along the way. the pattern has been when they get that, they get

blasted. there are thinks that will be brought up and said about rick santorum he said and done in past that could be problematic with independent voters. how much of a problem could that be when the white hot spotlight is on rick santorum? >> conservatives want a champion. there is no moral issues. he has been married to the same woman all his wife. he has seven wonderful kids. he has a great story. not like he will get disqualified on his fronts. long career in congress. lots of things occur on any record. bottom line he will survive. between him and gingrich to see who becomes the conservative the rest of the way. one of the things may be happening now you have three candidates that have passion, paul, santorum and gingrich. romney has a lot of intellectual support because people think he is going to win. this could go all the way now. martha: they're not winning over, romney is not winning over the heart and minds of these voters because the numbers, his numbers declined since the last time he ran for president. >> anytime he can get in

there spend his fortune as florida and new hampshire or neighboring state or nevada which is kind of a unique caucus with a big mormon vote. when you get to the rest of the game there is not that intensity. that doesn't mean he may not win the war of attrition and be the mom any but there is war all the way to get the support. martha: super tuesday has got to be a decisive moment. >> romney is well-positioned in the sense he has michigan and arizona before super tuesday. michigan is kind of home state favorite. although santorum has decided he will go after the blue-collar vote in michigan. if he can basically do well there he will take a lot of that play away from romney. arizona is winner take all state. probably romney wins that. martha: probably romney. look at charles krauthamer last night addressing this issue of romney's difficulty inspiring conservatives and republicans across the spectrum. here is what he had to say. >> he is not the kind of guy who send a thrill up your leg. and i think romney's

accepted that and he is running as the guy who admits he doesn't have a lot of charisma, he is steady, stable and will manage the economy, et cetera. that is sort of his deal. martha: that is sort of his deal. >> they're starting to take that apart though. a piece in the "washington post" how jobs were not really created in massachusetts. there wasn't really the massachusetts miracle under him. to a certain extent he has to have a new, more passionate type of a conversation. i think republicans are now beginning to worry, maybe he can't beat obama. that is what gave him great strength. we want to beat obama. whoever can do that best is the candidate. martha: there is sort of realness that we've seen really helped a number of these candidates. rick santorum, newt gingrich, moments he was able to land sinkers during the debate. rick santorum has fighter spirit as well. that is an important element people are responding to. >> he is plenty smart. he was candidate who got elected of congress. i was chairman of congressional committee when he was elected. he didn't have a chance in

heck. basically marched in with no help from me and won the race. i never underestimate rick santorum. martha: do you think he can win the nomination? >> i think it will be contested battle all the way. if he becomes conservative alternative and gingrich drops off he has a shot. martha: you think this could go to the convention in that scenario. >> for the first time the three candidates have the passion their delegates will not run away from them. i think over time romney has a real battle. martha: very interesting. some of these states could switch the delegates. they're not committed to them. >> iowa is place basically he didn't get the full bounce because ineptitude of iowa party getting vote counted two weeks. they don't vote for several months. a lot of delegates being counted for romney may not be there when the convention comes. martha: a fascinating scenario. ed, thanks so much. ed rollins. bill: it will make tampa in august all the more interesting. thanks, ed. check the markets real quick. we've been trading seven minutes. we're treading water right now. we were up three points.

now down. 10 minutes for all the dow 30 to open up. there is optimism in europe that greece will get another bailout. we'll see where we go with the markets open on wall street at the moment. martha? martha: we'll talk about that mystery illness we've been watching in new york state. this story is getting more interesting by the moment. a dozen girls have been affected by it. their own doctors disagree what is causing it. a member of fox news medical a-team has gone there to search for answers in this case. dr. marc siegel will join us to tell us what he found in new york state. bill: skydiving from the edge of space could literally make your blood boil. there is a daredevil who says he wants to do it. details on his plan. we'll find out whether or not this is even possible. [ male announcer ] you love the taste of 2% milk.

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it says food. people are begging for help after monday's earthquake caused roads and bridges to collapse, making it extremely difficult cult for rescue crews to bring in supplies to the disaster zone. some locals say they don't have any food. they don't have any water. landslides destroyed homes and dozens are believed to be buried in the rubble. a tough situation. bill: sure is. we've been telling you about this mystery illness affecting a dozen people in upstate new york, west of rochester. most of the victims teenage girls. the symptoms involuntary spasms and outbursts. even the girl's own doctors are split on the cause. our fox news medical a-team's dr. marc siegel spoke to two families and doctors treating many of the victims. dr. siegel is here to deliver his results of the good morning to you. a curious story. what did you find there? >> bill, of course i'm not their doctor but took a medical history of the two of the girls yesterday.

i was actually absolutely stricken how real this is. whatever it is it's real. one of the girls, named lauren, she was totally healthy until all of sudden is hit with the ticks. now she can't go to the school. she is suffering from panic attacks. it totally, totally changed their lives. i believe it is real. what is causing it is the next question. let's hear what they have to say about what they're suffering from. >> i was walking with my sister and everything and i started to freak out. then i had a panic attack. and then just started to like tick. >> in school my right arm started flailing and i made really weird, grunt-like noises. and ever since then it has been on and off. >> bill, i must say that those sound like psychiatric type symptoms. they don't fit a real neurological pattern and neurologists that examined them say that and it is

strpg stuff. bill: they're both 16 years old. >> there is all in one school. a lot of talk this is facebook. they're all in the same school. they all knew about it. it all spread. probably a couple target cases started it and that were real. we don't know yet but i want to get to the bottom of it. >> you referred to social media because some doctor or specialist this week who referenced the possibility that the internet is driving this and you discount that. by the way that specialist has not seen or even met these young ladies but you have a new bit of information this morning about the story. >> there is a doctor down in new jersey and he may have even been prompted by an interview i did with martha where we talked about the possibility this could be a pediatric autoimmune syndrome. there could be environmental trigger. erin brockovich has been trying to investigate that issue. this doctor in new jersey, has seen nine of the children and two of the ones i interviewed have seen him. a lot of kids are saying they're getting better from

his treatment. he think it is an autoimmune problem. let's watch what he has to say. >> the remarkable thing is that there are anti-inflorida tories probably sitting in your medicine cabinet right now that you could use to treat these girls and get them better, better than some of the more involved therapies including neuropsychiatric medications. >> he is seeing nine of them, bill. he is very involved with the families. i think he is a real hands-on doctor. my own feeling there are some holes in his theory because they don't all have the saline tech shun. some have micro plasma. some have strep. he is giving different medication. i'm not sure his theory is right but i like he is very involved and that is having placebo effect. bill: you went to the town. bill: leroy, new york. you met another group of doctors seeing several of these patients. what did you learn from them? >> i went to medical school

in buffalo by the way. this started with the dent neurological school in buffalo, they believe strongly it is a mass psychogenic illness. almost infectious. they see another person. you know what would go for that? child lauren i interviewed, she walked into a store and one of the other kids was having ticks which is involuntary movement, she started having them. when that happens you wonder about it being psychiatric. we also spoke to dr. mcve, one of the original doctors that treated i think 14 of these kids. bill: let's listen to that now. >> usually with any kind of conversion disorder or mass psychogenic illness it will get better in time. it takes time for things to heel. the reason it has gone on so long we believe because there is so much media attention to it. >> i think the media attention driven the story and not in positive way. here on fox news we're trying to investigate this and not be inflammatory. a lot of other media coverage inflailed this and the kids are getting worse. when they get a doctor that

gets involved and does hands on like doctor trifelti they get better. bill: environmental has been posed as possible theory. >> 40 years ago there was a train wreck and a chemical got released called tce. years later the floods are bringing it out. i studied that last night. it may be the wrong chemical. it causes park son type symptoms but not what you're seeing here. it is an interesting theory you about don't go along with it. bill: thanks, mark, to get your views on this. a lot of us wondering a and scratching our heads. shoot an e-mail to me at hemmer@fox news.on o or@bill hemmer. as we try to get to the bomb of this. interesting findings. >> thanks a lot, bill. bill: martha if. martha: they have been putting their lives on the line forman's best friend. rescuers help a dog in big trouble on a frozen lake.

bill: arizona going to the u.s. supreme court fighting the feds to enforce their own immigration law. governor jan brewer is here live leading that charge. what is her take on that now? you'll find out. [ male announcer ] say goodbye to "ho-hum," and hello to "whoa, yum." use campbell's cream of chicken soup to make easy enchiladas, cheesy chicken & rice, and other chicken dishes that are oh...so...whoa. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.

bill: right about 10 minutes now before the hour. greece is racing against the clock. it is now working on a cost cutting deal trying to get $170 billion bailout and avoid bankruptcy. a major step this relationship with japan. military base in okinawa as thousands of u.s. military transfer to guam. there has been opposition to

the u.s. being there for several years. who is man's best friend now? hunting dog by the name of max, ends up in a icy reservoir chasing a coyote. check out max from a helicopter. he only made it out thanks to one thick skinned firefighter. >> he was starting to slow down a little it about. it was harder for him to keep his head above water. once i entered the water he recognized it was safest to come towards me. >> this was a dog we thought would never learn how to swim. i thought he was going to be a goner. he was just a blessed dog. bill: how about max, huh? a couple of cuts and bruises doing just fine. you should see that dog come out. when the firefighter went in the water it was so-called that the ice froze before they could get out the other side but max is doing all right. martha: he was man's best friend at that point. thank goodness. bill: was in there for 20 minutes. and survived. what did someone say earlier? what happened to the coyote? we do not know. martha: at first i thought

the coyote was in his grasp but the firefighter and dog out there on the ice. good story. thank you, firefighter. ♪ . martha: when i hear that song i see lighters going up all around the stadium, don't you? takes you right back. well there is a daredevil planning to skydive from sort of beyond the sky. his name is felix baumgartner. he is hoping to plunge 23 miles from the edge of space back down-to-earth. how does that work or why would anyone want to do that? that is a good question for our friend tom jones a former nasa astronaut and fox news contributor. good morning, tom. >> good morning, martha. martha: this is very, very dangerous. >> well there's a lot of danger involved. he will be putting his life at risk to jump from this balloon at 120,000 feet. there are some technical benefits come from this because new spacesuit could be applied to future space

tourism and other high altitude adventures. make no mistake he is doing it for the fame and adventure of it. martha: we hear so much about tourism and spaceflight. they are promoting this in a way to help them kind of design space suits that could work for tourists. i want to give everybody a sense exactly the kind of distance we're talking about this free fall that man felix baumgartner is considering. here is mount everest, 29,000 feet. you go up to where we fly in the commercial aircraft at 35,000 feet. you think what that looks like from a commercial airplane. the concorde used to fly at 60,000 feet. that gives us a sense. this is free fall record with a parachute. 103,000 feet. here is look where he is attempting to do this from, 120,000 feet which is, you give us a sense, tom, how close that is to what we consider space? >> for all practical purposes it is space. there is almost no air.

he would be dead in seconds if his pressure suit failed. joe witte inker the guy did this for the air force in 1960 held the record. he is advising baumgartner how to do it safely. they have safety at the top of the priority list. that is good. john clark, the flight surgeon involved was one of my shuttle flight surgeons. they are getting good expertise. i think it will come off successfully this summer. >> i read something that at these heights your blood could literally boil. give us a sense what happens inside the human body at these heights and these temperatures? >> morbidly fascinating. when i was in my spacesuit in atitude chamber testing my suit for spacewalk. they had a pan of water in the chamber with me. you would see the water boiling with room temperature. it will be colder temperature. that is what happens to his body fluids if his suit fails. there is risk of tumbling out of control. the g-forces could make him black out or cause equipment to fail. that is putting his life at

risk. there is danker advisor frosting over. he won't be able to see how his body is oriented. everything has to work perfectly. i'm glad they're doing right sequence of tests. this is exposes the human body of limits it can tolerate. martha: what likelihood of success here? >> pretty high. though will wait for perfect weather conditions. they won't execute the jump if there is any faults in his suit. if he gets to 120,000 feet and everything is still in good shape i think they will have successful jump. more than likely they will have some aboortz or test runs that will fail. they might have to delay the test. martha: what kind of vehicle will he jump from? >> a balloon, a big helium balloon that will take him to the edge of space. it is about the limit of what balloons can do. it is amazing feat. hats off to an adventurer. felix will be a record seter if he pull this is off. martha: thank you very much. not anything i plan to attempt anytime soon but

more power to him. tom, thank you. bill: 100,000 feet? martha: yes. bill: a record and then some, huh? martha: 120,000 feet. bill: will be sitting over at our desk when he gets done. we'll talk with him. martha: i hope so. i hope so. bill: how does it feel when your blood boils, man. a big win for rick santorum, three of them last night. what does it mean for the nomination race in 2012? details about that. martha: the president's decision to embrace super pacs. this is flip-flop. he was very much against these as he scolded nation and supreme court. we'll talk about that coming up. sweetie i think you need a little extra fiber in your diet.

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martha: it is a hat trick for rick santorum last night, a surprising sweep that really very few people saw coming. he took all three contests, winning missouri by a 30-point blowout. that's how we got rigging i rocking in our second hour. good morning i'm martha

maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. senator john mccain, a romney supporter saying the shakeup just hurts the party. >> i think it's kind of expected, particularly since the pros kes ha process has been strung out, and it's a number of primaries where it's not winner take off like it used to be. from a pure partisan standpoint i'd like to see it over as soon as possible. the adversary is president obama and as soon as we focus on the better off we'll be. martha: i don't know if senator john mccain will get his wish. joining us now from washington is bret baier, the anchor of special report. good morning. good to see you this morning. >> reporter: up early this morning. it's amazing there is just not enough coffee. martha: not in the world, right? talk to us about last night. it's remarkable the way we have seen sort of each -- i was saying toed rollins it's like a movie and the beast keeps coming

up and getting knocked down and there is a new one out there, rick santorum is rising up to be a real formidable person in this race. >> reporter: martha, this was a big night. i think it's hard to overstate. the romney campaign, others, senator mccain would say, listen, there were no delegates given last night, missouri was a beauty contest. it's in the big picture not that big of a deal. actually it is a big deal in this race. the fact that the romney campaign thought they would win in colorado and they come out a loser there. the fact that their chairman is the former governor of minnesota, and they come out third in minnesota, and the fact that there is a 30-point loss in a major swing state, missouri, that is a big deal. now whether santorum can translate that into money and momentum in races to come i think is yet to be seen. martha: colorado is a swing state in the general election. what does it tell us in terms of the enthusiasm that r romney

was not haeubl t not able to garner in colorado. >> reporter: in 2008 he had 60% of the vote in colorado. it was a different race, a different time. this was 30%. there is an issue here. and for all the talk about how newt gingrich did miserably last night on the boards he did. there was one thing that the gingrich campaign is taking so sol list in and that is their argument republican party is not i completely to sign onto a romney coronation. they are not yet ready to have this a do a done deal. martha: do you think that is

helping him? >> reporter: i asked him about that, after his win in missouri and minnesota he said it was a big issue for him and he thinks it's mobilizing not only republicans but independents and some moderate democrats. less so on the issue of contraception and more so on the issue of religious liberty and almost a libertarian streak that says the government shouldn't be involved in this kind of thing and we're finding out more about what the healthcare law really means. martha: fascinating. bret thank you so much. great to talk to you. have a little more coffee, you'll be ready for special report. bill: in the meantime a triumphant santa an rick santorum going after mitt romney last night. >> i hope you have been listening to our message. if you listened to our message

you found out on those issues, healthcare, the environment, cap and trade, and on the wall street bail outs, mitt romney has the same positions as barack obama. and in fact would not be the best person to come up and fight for your voices for freedom in america. bill: rick santorum says he's not trying to be the con stef conservative alternative to romney e wants to be the conservative alternative to barack obama. martha: romney says he will be the one to unseat the president. >> more people have lost their jobs during president obama's term than any president in modern history. and more people have lost their homes. under his own definition president obama has failed. we will success. martha: romney publicly

congratulated santorum. he apparently wasn't able to speak to him personally. he called santorum, romney had to leave a voice message. bill: so much for a boring february. looking ahead right now to the contest later in the month of february, some scattered caucuses, you have maine here on the 11th. down here arizona, and michigan will be vital at the end of the month on february 18th. as you go forward into march then. here is super tuesday, march 6th on the calendar. seven different states and so many delegates on the line, and many of them are binding, they are pledge delegates unlike what we saw last flight in the three contests, in missouri, minnesota and colorado. february rolls on, who knew, martha? martha: it gets more interesting by the day. coming up we will talk to governor jan brewer of arizona.

she joins us live. we will ask her what she thinks is going on in her state. the big fight she is having with the feds on immigration and fast and furious. remember fox news is your front row seat for politics, folks, on the air, online, everywhere. just click on foxnews.com/politics and you can track the candidates, the delegates, the campaign trail. there is a lot to know out there. and you can find out awful it when you get onto foxnews.com/politics. bill: a lot going on in arizona. everything is going on in arizona. the violence is getting worse in syria. they are shelling entire neighborhoods. there is this. syrian rebels saying hundreds of people have been killed in the town of homs, ordinary citizens under barrage.

hundreds dead and wounded. this as the white house is finding itself under increasing pressure to oust the leader bashar al-assad. ed henry is our chief white house correspondent. what is the latest. >> reporter: opposition has been building to bashar al-assad regime for 11 months now because of this brutal crackdown we've seen in the past several days pressure is building on the white house. the administration calling its ambassador from damascus trying to take a stand there. republicans like john mccain say they have to do a lot more, take a listen. >> i think we should have a contact group, a joint coalition, and also we should start considering all options, including arming the opposition. the bloodletting has got to stop. >> reporter: bloodletting has to stop senator mccain says. so far the white house continues to say they believe a diplomatic solution could be found here. bill: what is the white house

saying on that specifically. >> reporter: they are very cool on the idea that senator mccain put out there about arming the opposition in syria. they say they think putting more weapons into syria is not an option right now. but he says there are a lot of options on the table. >> we will continue to work with international allies and partners and other friends of the syrian people to continue to pressure the bashar al-assad regime, so that it ceases this reprehensible behavior. >> reporter: u.s. officials say privately that of course the administration is looking at the military option, whether u.s. million tier reaction could be taken to stop the violence. they say they are always considering all contingencies. martha: this news breaking this morning. fox news alert, a teenager in missouri who confessed to killing a 9-year-old little girl

has now been sentenced. she will spend her life in prison. this is 16-year-old alisa because tsa bustamante. she killed this little girl and burr lead here in a shallow grave. it has been a stunning story. in a statement to her family before the sentencing she said this. quote if i could give my life to bring her back i would. i want to say i'm sorry for what happened, i'm so sorry. those are contrary to what she said about the killing a little while ago. she said it was, quote, amazing. a very different tune before she had the sentencing. we'll have a live report coming up later this hour. bill: arizona is fighting to keep its tough new immigration law intact. now it goes to the u.s. supreme court. and the arizona governor jan grew eri brewer is here live to

make her case. >> this ad administration as you can tell from my reaction has been hostile to people of faith, specifically christians and catholics. i'm not going to stand for it and i'm going to call them out on it. martha: republicans hitting the white house over the controversy for paying for contraception in the new healthcare law. there are signs the obama administration may be backing up on that a little bit. bill: a vending machine is causing an uproar at a university. what is inside of it is getting a lot of attention. martha: oh, boy, is it. i'm in a tricky situation here.

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charges. the former university of virginia player is accused of killing 22-year-old yeardley hrofplt she was also a lacrosse player at the school. he has admitted storming into her apartment in 2010, violently shaking her head against a wall during a hea heated argument. she was found dead in her apartment. martha: jan brewer is appealing a ruling to block key parts of the law. she is here with her block, scorpians for breakfast. good to see you governor. >> good morning, thank you. martha: we spoke to an attorney yesterday about the filing of this brief before the supreme court. you know, how do you think this is going to go for you? it's been shot down a couple of times in two different ways. >> i'm real confident that the supreme court will rule in the favor of arizona.

the federal law expressly contemplates and encourages states to enforce federal law, and that's what we have done with senate bill 1070. i feel very comfortable and confident that we will win. martha: when you sake a look at the road that it has taken so far the initial judge basically said she passed most of the law but not the two main components that it seems you would care about the most which is the ability to, when you stop somebody, when somebody gets pulled over, or is asked questions about another offense to ask about immigration stat as you, and to require papers, for people to carry papers around so they can be identified. that seems to really have rattled the administration. they feel that is a breach of s*eufl rights and it's the federal government's job to carry this stuff out. that is their argument they will take to the supreme court. when you look at the court, where are the vulnerabilities? >> i believe that the federal court simply and expressly

contemplates the state government and law enforcement can force federal law, no differently than what they put the sign up in my desert here saying if you need help to call 911. it's the state that responds. our senate bill 1070 does nothing different than mirrors federal law. because the federal government won't do their job i have a responsibility to protect the people of arizona. i think any governor would agree with me on that. martha: you've carried the banner high for your state on this issue. we'll see how it fares as the process gets heard in april. eric holder has been on the hot seat for fast and furious and the issue of course is the gun running operation that went horribly wrong in fast and furious over the border. what do you make of his appearances in haoes recen hearings and the questions that have gone on are you pleased with how it has gone.

>> i am very pleased with congress. i think it's a travesty that has taken here in arizona, with the department of justice. i'm astounded that no one is being held accountable for anything. i'm hoping that congress will get to the end of it. it was a terrible thing to see take place in our state, and the death of brian terry is just almost unforgivable, it is unforgivable, something that should have never, ever happened. martha: i want to talk to you a little bit about the arizona primary, in the last minute that we have here. boy, last night was pretty interesting. i'm sure you were paying attention to rick santorum's sweep. no doubt he's going to try to resonate with arizona voters, as well as newt gingrich and ron paul. romney has been looked at as the guy in the lead in arizona. is that an accurate look at this given the shakeup we saw last night? >> it's an interesting primary, it's been up, it's been down, and i think that we are anxiously awaiting to have them

all come out here for our debate february 22nd, and then i think we'll really have the proof of who is going to win arizona. but we are all watching very, very carefully, and i think that it is up for grabs. martha: why not endorse one of them? why not put your name next to those as we've seen governor christie and others do across the country? >> well because i think we have some specific issues that we would like to be addressed in arizona. and we would like them all to come out and talk to us directly, we are waiting. after the debate i'll make my decision. martha: senator mccain in arizona wants to see the process wrap-up and quickly for his guy mitt romney. that doesn't sound like what you want. >> i think it's been exciting and fascinating and different for all of us to experience and i think it's involved a lot more people with all the different debates that have taken place. it's gotten a little nasty but exciting. martha: well for a woman who either soerp yans for breakfast that's no problem for you i'm

sure. jan brewer, governor of arizona, thank you. great to talk to you this afternoon. bill: breaking news, north of new york city about 50, 60 miles to the town of middletown new york. a courthouse in that town, a man with a shotgun tried to enter a short time ago, pointing a gun at a court officer near a metal detective. shots were exchanged. the officer was shot in the arm the gunman is dead. we are not sure whether or not this is the motorcycle the man showed up on. it's possible as you get the helicopter shot from wnyw near the scene. they responded to this shooting shortly after it happened at the city court, eyewitness saying a man dressed in a brown hoodie armed with a rifle came up the steps to the city hall about 9:00 this morning, that is about an hour and 20 minutes ago and took off running toward the court. shots were fired. witnesses report they saw the shooting there. so far police evacuated the city

hall and city court. we are going to get more on this in a moment. it's breaking now, north of new york city, in upstate new yorkment in a moment here, what do voters day of president obama? >> i any he's completely terrible. i mean anybody who is going to get that position, you know, the economy was just horrible, i really think he's trying. >> it's the same old argument, he inherited a problem, he made a lot of promises. he did, but i'm sick of hearing it. bill: more on that and you will hear about it. what is the challenge for republicans? frank luntz has more from his panel of voters. martha: a rare look inside the dangers that firefighters face every day through their eyes. a helmet with a camera on it provides an unbelievable look at their work. we'll be right back. ♪ [singing]

martha: breaking news this morning out of middletown new york. this shot coming in from wabc and their chopper on the scene where a man tried to get into the middletown courthouse around 9:00 this morning. he pointed a gun at the court officer right by the metal detectors that are present in all of the courthouses these days, and shots were exchanged, we're told. the court officer was shot in the arm, but the gunman is dead. it is unclear, according to these earlier reports who opened fire on the scene in middletown, new york. a courthouse shooting. we'll continue to stay on top of it and get you more as it comes in. bill: we certainly will.

during an interview on super bowl sunday president obama saying he deserves a second term. he says the administration has made progress on improving the economy, but more work needs to be done. do voters agree with that. frank luntz put that to voters. describe how president obama is doing. >> i want to give a word or phrase to describe barack obama. >> confused,. >> inept. >> a socialist. >> dishonest. >> steady hand on the wheel. >> ineffective. >> insufficient. >> very extreme, they either love him or hate him. the challenge for barack obama, the american people 80% have made up their minds. 40% of voting against him guaranteed. 40 are voting for him guaranteed. the question is the 20%. bill: then you asked why they feel this way.

roll this. >> he talked a good game, he suck erred me in. >> you voted for him? >> i did vote for him. i was excited about the change hoping our country would be very different. three years later i feel lost and confused just like i think he is. >> i don't think he's completely terrible. the economy was just horrible. i really think that he's trying. >> it's the same old argument, he inherited a problem. he made a lot of promises. i'm sick of hearing it. >> everyone says that the problem already existed before obama took over. the question is has he made it worse or better. and you hear that, i'm sick of hearing it. the divisions are so deep and strong and intense and passionate that every time i go out and toubg are talk to americans, in that focus group there were morrow bama voters

than mccain voters. 27 obama voters, 17 cain voters. is this election going to bring us together or pull us apart. >> no, no. >> by show of hands how many say it's going to pull us apart? well you know what? god help us. it's going to be a very devisive campaign, it's going to be a very angry campaign and if our 27 voters are any indication things are going to get worse before they get better. i have to give fox news credit that it put someone ever that weight and girth on national television. it's very depressing if you believe in satisfactory shrift, decency and respect. if you agree that voters can talk to each other and disagree without being disagreeable, what i'm hearing out there it's not going to happen, the negative ads, the attacks on each other

and voter frustration so great that i think we will owe come apart by november. bill: what are the challenges for republicans? >> they have to prove that it's not just about obama's failures or they'll end up like john kerry. close but not close enough. you don't vote just against the president, you have to vote for the alternative. you have to show they'll do better on the economy and third it is about quality of life. not the standard of living. will my kids have a better quality of life to mow? if they can show that path they will be competitive. right now obama is the frontrunner. bill: you concluded the reaction is mixed and it's a coin flip right now. >> if it were 51-49 i think obama has the advantage going into the election at this point. bill: frank luntz here. martha: always very impressive conversation between the people

you interview. they can sit right next to each other and say, love him, hate him, interes interesting stuff there. is the white house about to blink in its policy over birth control coverage. the battle with the catholic church and what could be a compromise on that. bill: we'll tell you why this is not just for a good show. martha: i think there is a person under there. i don't know, call me crazy. ♪ [ gong ] strawberry banana! [ male announcer ] for a smoothie with real fruit plus veggie nutrition new v8 v-fusion smoothie. could've had a v8. you noticed! these clothes are too big, so i'm donating them.

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martha: fox news alert on a story we've been following, an 18-year-old girl sentenced to life for murdering her 9-year-old neighbor. this is just the most brutal, awful story. alyssa bustamante, there she is confessed to the 2009 murder. she has just now been sentenced by a judge in missouri. heather childress has the story. >> reporter: if i could give my life to bring her back i would. those words from 18-year-old alyssa bustamante before her sentencing. as you mentioned life in prison, plus 30 years for fatally stabbing her nine-year-old neighbor. in january the missouri teen pleaded guilty and confessed to the murder. that happened in october of 2009

when alyssa bustamante was just 15 years old herself. court testimony revealed alyssa bustamante strangled, stabbed and slit the throat of her young neighbor and then buried here in a shallow grave that she dug days earlier in. statement before her sentencing alyssa bustamante repeatedly told the victim's family she was sorry. a judge sentencing her to life in prison for second murder plus 30 years for armed criminal action. the sentences will run consecutively. alyssa bustamante has the possibility of parole. it was revealed in court that alyssa bustamante kept a journal and after the killing she wrote her words that committing the crime was amazing. however, her attorney presented evidence from a psychiatrist who testified that an antidepressant she was taking at the time could have been a contributing factor. prosecutors countered with their own doctor who said there was no scientific evidence to in fact support that claim. we expect to hear from prosecutors later this afternoon

in this troubling story. martha. martha: it's so troubling, that poor family of that little girl. heather, thank you very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. bill: is the white house doing an about face? more on the policy that would require catholic hospitals and universities to offer their employees health plans with birth control coverage. now the president's senior campaign adviser david axelrod suggests that it may be open to a compromise. >> we certainly don't want to aeu bridge anyone's religious freedom. we will look for a which to move forward that, both guarantees women that basic preventive care that they need and respects the prerogatives of religious institutions. bill: tucker carlson is a editor and alan colmes, fox news contributor and alan colmes.

what is this a michael jackson moon walk? >> it's abridement of freedom. the government is forcing them to violate their own religion beliefs. and they don't want to do that because theupbdz there are profound political consequences. a lot of liberal catholics are concerned about this not just conservatives. they are being pushed by the abortion lobby to which they pay total obedience, they want to see contra sepgs, and abortion mandated in coverage. the white house is in a tough spot. i think in the end they have to compromise. bill: you heard axl heard axle road, what us the end game here. >> give them a year. that isn't going to work. they are going to have to back off i think. bill: what do you make of this. alan. >> every time somebody does

something that they don't agree with we become unamerican. mitt romney had the same comment, and he had the same policy as governor of massachusetts and never said a word about it. i don't think it will be an election issue for the president. furthermore 77% of catholic women support the policy, 97% of women have used birth control. i don't think they saw it as a political problem. bill: he's arguing that it's not just catholics who are up in arms about this. >> those people who are up in arms about it are not likely to vote for the president any way. i think the political calculus was we look at the numbers, we see where it falls. i think the white house doesn't think this is injurious to them. >> keep thinking that. there are a lot of catholics who voted for barack obama who are appalled by this because, again, it is forcing -- it's the government using force to compel people to violate their own

religion beliefs. to you i do the white house is going to stand back as catholic hospitals close? seriously. >> they are not going to close. >> what this they close. >> these are places of public accommodation that take taxpayer dollars. then don't take any taxpayer money. if you're take money you're taking taxpayer dollars you have to play by federal rules. >> this is what a author tea authorize tear is eupl looks like. bill: do you agree that tucker case they'll drag this out for a year. >> that probably may happen. i think they may postpone it for a year. they'll give a grace period where they try to figure out all masters. bill: you don't think it's politically a danger. >> whatever the president does, he's going to be criticized for it. if he caves, doesn't cave, compromises. no matter what he does he'll be criticized. bill: on this issue though 27%

of those who voted in 2008 are catholic. and that doesn't even pull in the evangelical vote. >> you don't need to be cat hreufpblgt it has nothing to do with whether i'm going to vote for him or not. it has to do with a very simple philosophical question, should the government be allowed to force you to violate your conscience just because some lobbyist giving them money, and the answer is no. if i was a liberal i'd basketball against it. bill: why if you knew this was going to cause the ripple that it has, why would you do it in the first place? >> because the one group that the white house never tangles with, ever, the one group they obey to the letter is the a portion lobby. it's just true. the first act as president, the president committed, of course, was -- >> this is not about abortion. this is not the morning-after-pill. the morning-after-pill has nothing to do with this. this is not an abortion issue. it's a healthcare issue that

gives women who work for universities and hospitals the same equity in terms of healthcare that women in other institutio institutions have. bill: some say it's a values question. we'll see if axelrod was right in walking this back. thank youment. martha: along the same lines of that discussion a small university is now making big headlines, because of what is inside this vending machine that they are giving to students, and let me tell you it's not potato chips. bill: that's rightment walk int. walk into a fire with us in a moment. with a helmet cam on you've got to see this video. >> he was in a closet, pulling him out of that environment was absolutely incredible. for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime.

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helmet camera. it shows them ballistic link through heavy smoke and flames to rescue two children. you can see a mother holding her child and slowly lowering him out the window to firefighters who are waiting down below. >> she didn't know what to do. she basically handed her child down to me. he was crying. they were in the back bedroom tucked in the closet underneath a blanket, scared for their lives. bill: i bet they are. the family expected to be okay. the cause of that fire under investigation. and now you know some of the dangers these men and women face every day. martha: the fda is now stepping in after a university in pennsylvania has installed the morning-after-pill, which will be made available in this vending machine on a college campus. students can walk into a room inside the school's health center, slide $25 into that machine and buy a plan b, which is known as the

morning-after-pill. we have a physician and assistant professor here in new york, and penny nance is a coe for the concerned women of america. dr. london i know you think this is a good idea. why? >> let's start with in america 49% of pregnancies are unintended. plan b is available without a prescription for women 17 and over, this is on a college campus. college campuses, every 21 hours a woman is raped, only 10% of those are reported, and 78% of the time it's by an acquaintance. 90% of the time under the influence of alcohol. this allows a private way, it is not like this is a vending machine next to a soda machine in the dining room. martha: dr. london let me just jump in. why would anyone who has been violated in that way, why would they hesitate to go straight to a nurse or doctor to get this pill, which would be given to

them in this instance instead of this treatment of it who a lot of people would say was too easy. you shouldn't be able to pop in and ending a pregnancy from something from a vending machine. >> you're not ending a pregnancy. it prevents fertilization. only 10% of rapes are reported, alcohol is often involved, there is embarrassment. this is a private way of doing it. this is in a tiny town in the appalachians. martha: they are selling 350 to 400 a year in this vending machine apparently out of a student population of 3700 students. >> martha, this is absolutely reckless, and it's a direct result of the obama administration's fda. we have said that this pill, by the way it's the only drug on the market in a weaker form that requires a prescription.

we've said we need a doctor involved here. this is absolutely reckless. your guest made my point for me, yes, the doj says perhaps even 25% of young women on college campuses are raped or victims of attempted rape. we need doctors involved, we need law enforcement involved. the date-rate drug that we are seeing so much of, how can professionals get a handle on what is going on in their campus when this is happening behind the scenes? and by the way this is absolutely the worst form of contra september teufs. these girls are lulled into a false sense of security. it's the least effective thing than anything on the market. martha: this is what they said about why they decided it would be a good idea in the vending machines. this is the only school that has tkaop done this. we'll put it up on the screen. they said 85% of the respondents