>> that is not what you are arguing. >> sean: why can't people not to engage in behavior so they don't need birth control. i got to go. thanks for being with us. greta is next. >> greta: so what happened. why is president obama's friends divmg ditching him. a new rule has a negative fight within the democratic party. a new rule requires all employers to cover birth control for their workers. that includes catholic organizations who oppose birth control. marco rubio calls the mandate an assault on religious freedom. he is taking action. we spoke with him earlier tonight. >> the religious freedom act of 2012, that is your act.

tell me what it is? >> very simple. fundamental question, should the federal government have the power to tell a religious organization they have to pay for something that they teach is wrong. this is not about contraception and about social issues. this very simple principle. we have religious prex in the first amendment the right to express yourself religiously and specifics case the church the use of contraception is wrong. you can disagree with that. but the federal government to force them to pay for contraception, something that is wrong. the answer is no. that is the constitution. i hope the president will reconsider but if he doesn't we have bill to fix this. >> greta: there is a lot of people disagreed with this. one is supporting the president's bill but what do you say? >> it divides the constitution. we either believe the constitution or we don't.

religious organizations are protected in their expression of religious beliefs. if you use the federal government to force a religion to pay for something that the religion teaches is wrong, then you violated that principle. you basically using that logic, you can force them to do all kinds of things. >> greta: and any word from the obama administration? >> only what i've seen in the press. >> greta: do you expect to see anything? >> maybe they say we overreached there. there are actually people in the administration vice president biden saying it's an overreach. so there is nothingening with changing your mind if you want public input. i think they are getting a lot of public input this is bad idea. there are plenty of other issues for us to debate. >> greta: do you think they will give in? >> i don't know. again, i don't talk to him every day or anything like.

that i don't know where they are headed. they really should reconsider. implications are serious. this is not about women's rights or contraception, this is religious liberties that our country has cherished and to force religious to do things, you have crossed line. >> greta: and you said to a radio station, you said quite frankly, if you use the logic the obama administration used to arrive at their conclusion it could lead to scarier results. what is scarier results? >> you now have the federal government basically saying under this administration if we think it's a good idea, we the obama administration, it doesn't matter what religion teaches. we can force you to do it because we know what is best and we are more important than you. policy positions of the obama administration is more important than your constitutional protection. if that is logic, you can apply

it to other religions and then what is constitutional protection worth? >> greta: we see people all over capitol hill. it seems this is getting a lot of attention certainly from the catholic church? >> again, it's not about the contraception part of it. now, the federal government has the power to force a religion to pay for something that religion teaches is wrong. the federal government has the power to do that, we really extended the federal power that anyone is comfortable with. >> greta: hot race but let me ask you, one of the candidates, governor mitt romney, in 2005, governor romney was hired as a governor to provide emergency contraception to rape victims and some catholics this morning-after pill is an abortion.

your thoughts. >> i don't know what governor romney's response would be are or all the facts. but there are states that have rules, it's obviously up to the state legislators in those states to change it important or for people to go to the state courts and violates the constitution. i am focused what is happening on the federal level. that the first time i heard of it. suffice to say that religious organizations should not be forced to pay for things or do things that violated tenets of their faith. >> are you going to speak for c-pac? >> i rarely write out a speech. it's a pretty consistent message. that this country, we haveo analyze where we are as we head toward the election. we have president that inherited a bad economy and high employment. he got everything he wanted and now things got worse. now, he is asking for a

four-year extension. he can't run on his record. this is president, in 2009 he ran the most negative campaign in american history in terms of money he spent on negative attack ads. what else are you seeing from the president? he is trying to divide americans against each other. he says the only way for us to do better is for other people to do worse. americans don't buy that. at the end of the day, you look at product of the american century, in 1945, it was $200 billion today it's $15 trillion. in last 20 years, it's tripled in size. that is miracle of america. are we going to walk away from that and go the direction of these other countries whose economic policies people flee and come here. >> greta: what is the senate like? >> it's designed to move slow but not this slow.

the trouble is, i think there are major disagreements here. that is, we have elections. some we have to take it to the american people in november. there are things agree but they aren't getting action. >> greta: why? >> because that is question you have to ask to the folks. why aren't we getting action to these items? a bipartisan bill i filed in december. this is a bill called the agree act. we can't get a hearing on it. we can't get traction on it. >> greta: can't sai you say to harry reid and say can we get action to it? >> we can't get the white house to support it. why? i don't know. that is what the fundamental core of what happens in our country. by the way, look at the senate. we are three weeks into this work period we voted on one bill. it's not that this country is on autopilot. we have serious issues to confront.

we haven't done anything in the year we've been here. we haven't had had a budget in thousand something days. my point is i wish there was more of a sense of urgency about the issue that our nation is confronting. >> greta: i know you get asked this, if tapped to be in cabinet would you do it? >> i'm not going to be asked. >> greta: what if you are? >> hypotheticals, i don't do hypotheticals. i'm not going to be vice presidential nominee. it's not me playing coy. i think the senate is an important place. we need people to stand for limited government principles. >> greta: if the senate is so slow how are you going to change things? >> we need new senators. that agree that the issues need to dealt with that needs new leadership. make the argument to people across the country we need a few new senators to come up and change the way we do business.

if we do, that we'll be better off. >> greta: how about harry and reid say when you pass the hall. what do you say? >> none of it personal. i get along personally in the senate. >> greta: do you say, let's get it moving? >> we really see each other the floor. of course we ask people to get things done. folks need to understand. people have a right to be frustrated about it but i don't think you get advance the cause by getting angry at an individual level. for example on the left and democratic people, they love their country but they are wrong on their ideas and ideas are bad for america's future. >> greta: senator, thanks, sir. >> donald trump last weekend endorsed do governor mitt romney

but republicans in three states tell donald trump, he is wrong. they don't want governor romney. they want rick santorum. tonight his three state sweep is shaking up the g.o.p. race. donald trump joins us by phone? >> hello, greta. >> greta: before i get to the topic of senator rick santorum, i saw your most recent tweet that jon huntsman called to see into. i said no, he gave our country away to china? >> nothing i hate to see when people give up pieces of our country and a big piece was given during his reign. he wanted to meet with me. i just said no, what is the purpose? that is it. i was very disappointed in the way, what he did, what he said and his attitude. i think attitude is suicidal and terrible. >> greta: did he call after you

first tweeted him today which you said china did a major number during the reign of jon huntsman? >> no, he called a while ago. i decided not to see him. he wanted to see me and i said no. >> greta: you also poking a stick in his eye on twitter? >> i'm just disappointed when people give away chunks of our country and he gave away big chunk. we can get it back if we smart our tough. he did a very poor job. >> greta: did he call today looking to come to see you? >> no, not at all. a while ago. >> greta: that was before he got out? >> before he got out of the campaign. >> greta: now to rick santorum, you have a video out today in which you talk about senator rick santorum. what do you say in the video and why? >> essentially, i have nothing

against rick santorum. i think he is a nice guy. i smoking spoke to him briefly. to talk about something, but he ran for the senate. he ran for the senate as an incumbent. he lost by 19 points. it was record in the history of u.s. senate for an incumbent. he lost and now he wants to run for president. i made the analogy like a student that gets thrown out of high school for bad marks but then decides to go to wharton school of finance. i want to go to the wharton school of finance which is great school. it doesn't work that way in my opinion. he ran and lost by a tremendous amount, almost record setting. in fact it was record setting. all of a sudden he wants to be president. i don't think it works that way. the people in pennsylvania threw him out and threw him out by a wide margin and they woernt

weren't happy, now he is going to be president. >> greta: he has been questioned about that. i think he would say tonight, he would say in 2006 the year that he was beaten by 17 points by senator casey, that 23 of 33 races nationwide the republicans were defending and they lost 23 of 33 but they lost in pennsylvania, five conservative districts that year. they lost the republican governorship in pennsylvania by 20 points that year and has now regained guy ten points. i guess he is saying, 2006 was really lousy year for republicans in pennsylvania. >> maybe it was or maybe it wasn't. he lost by a record number. how do you lose like that. maybe it's time to go into a different business, you are not running for president. the people didn't think he did a good job. heat represent them well.

and all of a sudden, let's become president. give me a break. >> greta: apparently, they may not like him in 2006 in pennsylvania but they like him in iowa, missouri, colorado and minnesota. more than they like your candidate, governor mitt romney. he is ahead of speaker gingrich in the number of delegates so far. he can't be doing that poorly? >> i have nothing against him. i find it hard to believe he put himself in a situation where he is running. it's very early. in theory that did not matter, but there were no delegates, let's see what happens. mayber right. over the course of time, he'll be a great candidate and great president. i don't think that is going to happen frankly. i think when people look at his record in pennsylvania, they are going to find out there was reason he got thrown out. >> greta: turning to the issue about the contraception in the healthcare law and hhs rule that has caused so much discussion in

the nation, is this issue one that can have long reaching political ramifications? are we going to talk about this for 24 hours and move on? >> think it's going to be very bad. it's a bad issue for president obama. i'm not even sure if he turned around rather quickly and doesn't look like he is going to i'm not sure he recovers. you have a huge catholic population. i think a lot of these people will be voting against obama. officials of the church as you know better than i do, they are very upset. it will be interesting to see, so far he has taken a hard stance and a lot of political people are very surprised by it. >> greta: some people are predicting, rumors out there and defense secretary panetta said that israel could go alone against iran, with an

international crisis like that, it would be crisis, would that see that as having an impact on the election come november? >> if you look at my twitters, i feel this country is going at it and obama might go at it. he'll be very popular for a matter of weeks and get elected because of it. i actually predict it. we will go against iran, our president will be very popular because of what he does. if you look at bush, after the iraqi situation, nobody could have beaten him. about two months later he became very unpopular again. i've said it. i don't like saying it, but i think something could happen for political reasons. that is pretty sad. fact is we own the cards, iran doesn't hold the cards. they know that. it seems inconceivable that we can't get them to the table and make an unbelievable deal.

i'm talking about strength, not from weakness. we hold the cards, greta. only from strength. >> greta: you are saying political. that president obama would make a decision that what we would do for his own self-political benefit or saying something different, that i misunderstood you? >> you didn't managers understand me. i would like to see it not happen. i believe we're in such a strong position that frankly, iran should drop to their knees and make a deal with us. for some reason, i guess we just don't talk to anybody. >> greta: are gas prices going up? >> they have gone up. the last four weeks they have gone up. i think this could be a big factor in the election also. i believe the gas prices are going through the sky, even though less is being used the fact that opec is strangling us because we have nobody to talk to tell them to tell us like it

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of our country must not stand and will not stand. >> greta: tonight a major push to overturn president obama's new health care rule on contraception. you just heard from john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell has said they have cross add dangerous line. more and more democrats are taking on president obama. bart stew peculiar was a major player in the debate. he and his pro-life democrats insisted that no federal money be used to fund abortion. the president greed and they pushed the health care law over the top. where does he stand on the hhs contraception mandate. good evening, sir? >> good evening. >> greta: you don't get to vote on this because you have retired but what do you think about this latest dispute?

>> i'm disappointed that the pllgs would put forth such a rule, a you are putting together and putting together major legislation there will be fumbles along the way. i hope we can get the matter resolved short of action by congress or president should sit down and work this thing out. we can do it. we can do it again. >> greta: at least tonight, the line seems to be drawn in the sand. i'm curious, they stumbled and fumble had. but is the morning-after pill in your mind contraception or is it some catholics might say a form of abortion? >> its contra september active and you are taking a life. therefore i'm not in favor of that and neither is the catholic church. >> greta: so if it's contra

september active it's not covered in the executive order that the president signed, is that what you agreed to that dealt with abortion? >> it dealt with not only abortion but also with conscience clause. if you look at section one of the executive order, it's very clearly says church amendment way back in 1973 to the weldon amendment that was legislation that president obama signed in 2009 which they talked about the clause of the right of individuals and institutions such as the church to not provide the services if it violates the tenets of their faith and their conscience. >> greta: there are so many different fay sets, you have catholics that are deeply upset and others, as well. you also have people who say it's intruding in people's

lives. the thing that can caught my attention beyond all that is how when legislation like this is written, nobody reads it and it gets sent over to people who are not elected at a government agency, hhs and they decide the rules and decide the clauses. >> another concern with health care legislation or any legislation, congress enacts a law but it is up to the administration to administer those laws. you have mistakes made along the way. you have trial balloons that are later shot down. in this instance with the executive order not only were we concerned about the abortion but also krause that that has been in the law ins early 1970s to make sure that the longstanding principle that we believe in

remains part of the health care legislation. you are giving them guidance and giving them executive order. it has full force and effect of law. you are right. executive order that we had signed, they probably never read it. >> greta: all right. the easy fix might be that is road to include catholic hospitals and not just churches, that would this easy way they could fix this one? >> that would be an easier way to fix it. you could rely on the executive order and authority to fix it. executive order, longstanding law to protect things such as the church amendment, weldon amendment and prohibits discrimination against health care facilities and providers because of unwillingness to provide coverage of or refer to abortion. >> greta: thanks for joining us.

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>> greta: passion and fight. now that is what tea party leader and senator jim de minute voters want to see in a g.o.p. presidential candidate. do any of the final four have that demint passion and fight? we talked to him earlier tonight. >> greta: what do you make of the sweep by rick santorum? he got missouri, minnesota and colorado? >> it makes it more exciting. i think what we're seeing what was happening in south carolina and florida, the candidate who is showing the most fight, the most tenacity is getting the vote. what i hear back home is thanks for fighting. we want to see passion, we want to make sure that our guy can

take it to obama and take it to the media if they have to. we are tired of letting them get away with it. >> greta: so is it indistinguishable the four but some have more fight? >> i think that is what we're seeing. we're seeing that people can't decide between the four. the things about all of them we like. i feel the same we if we could take the best of all four and roll them together we would have a strong nominee. i any that is when we're going to have. the one who wins the nomination is going to extract the best ideas from all four and take it to the people, combine it with a lot of fight and tenacity. that will be our nominee. >> greta: people say who they like right now who are most likely to beat president obama but much not talk about taking a step further, how to work with congress to get things done.

out of four, who can work the halls of the congress the best? >> we could put reagan in the white house. harry reid the senate after this election, it doesn't matter who is president. we have to change the senate. that is where my focus is. i think all four can work. >> greta: some has different skills than others? >> if they have to work with harry reid the only compromise we have with more democrats is more spending and more debt. if you look at the last ten or 12 years there is no exceptions. >> greta: so if harry reid was to return to the senate? >> so in reid is majority leader we won't be able to pull away ourselves from a cliff. we have to make hard decisions. democrats are incapable of cutting spending. their whole platform is based on more promises from government. we're seeing it this week with payroll tax cut thing. they won't cut anything to pay for it. republicans have a choice of

taking the tax cut away or not just paying for it. we don't have good choices with the democrats here. that is what i'm trying to get across. it's not like ten years ago. democratic party is the party dependent on government. if we don't beat them, america loses. >> greta: so let's assume republican senate and republican house. is there any difference to you at all among the four candidates to become president? >> there are. >> greta: what makes a difference to you? >> i know i act like i'm waffling. i certainly like the business aspects of mitt romney. the ideas of newt gingrich and conservative things that rick santorum talks about and they all listen to ron paul because our party is based on constitutional limited government and we need to recognize what he is saying about the out of control federal reserve could be the most

vulnerable aspect of our country today. we can't ignore any of the candidates. again, i like things about all of them. i know i sound like copping out by picking one, but 80% get mad. i'm focusing on the senate. >> greta: many people thought governor romney had his all sown up. is it a forgone conclusion. you think the nomination is still up for grabs? >> i still think it's up for grabs. think it's a good thing. all the candidates are becoming better. as you watched them. they have gotten a lot better, more sure of their positions. some of them like rick have changed his positions on earmarks. he first started the campaign he was defending them but now he is saying, he is like demint he is for an all out ban.

there is not any place for them when our country is about to go bankrupt. most of the candidates understand that taking home the bacon should no be the platform of anybody running for the president. >> greta: do you have a little criticism for each of the candidates, as well? >> i can criticize them all. rick and you are great friends. i'm not going to detract at him from all. i'm a recovering either marker. >> greta: there was a voted and you lost? >> pat toomey was leading on that, he got 40 votes. there are 60 republican and democrat senators who think we should take on the bacon. we have a temporary ban on earmarks because people are paying attention after the last election. we're going to try to do the same thing. >> greta: people criticize the bridge to nowhere, no one likes earmarks like that but earmark

to fund your unit in your community, some of the earmarks look good. how do you sort out, get rid of all earmarks. how do we handle some of the good issues? >> we are not supposed to be allocated go money for local needs. that is not. >> so you opposed to that? >> no earmarks. >> when you buying half of every dollar you spend. we have to focus what is goo had for our country. there are lot of people in south carolina, believe me. but if i and other senators are earmarking things that make me look good back home, that is how we ended up with $15 trillion in debt. you add earmarks to every bill and everybody votes for them. america first, we're losing our country, stop earmarking. >> greta: none whatsoever. all right. senator, thank you, sir. >> coming up.

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sugarland delayed a concert twice despite bad weather that caused. they built stage released a portion of the testimony saying it's important for people to see the bigger picture. i'm ainsley earhardt. >> greta: unemployment rate drops to 8.3%. that is the most in three years and they added 243,000 jobs that is far more than expected. why are job openings out there. because we need more. dennis is here to explain. why do we need more quitters and how does it change. >> u.s. has more churn in the job force, more people leave the job to take a better job to take a higher paying job. then in other developed

economies in the world. before the recession, 3 million americans every month were willing to quit their jobs to take a new job. you don't get benefits when you quit but a wnau is three million fewer than two million did that. this is two and a half years after the recession ended. in 2001 recession, we got back up the high rate after 18 months after the end of that recession. >> greta: explain why the economic lubricant. don't quit youobr job until you have another one set up. you are going to get another job and somebody is going to fill your job. is this economic lubricant to have it churn? >> when you are at the top and people below you and you see at opportunity over here and you jump to that. >> the guy moves up to that job. that freed up his job and someone moves into that. someone from outside moves down at the bottom of the chain and moves up there. this is why as much we worry

about the minimum wage, most americans spend two years at minimum wage in chair careers because we move up that chain. that kind of churn creates more new jobs. i think the reason people are quitting as much simply because there aren't enough new jobs and enough new opportunities that are sexy enough for me to leave the job i got. >> greta: on ben bernanke talked about the tax code and whether there will be tax rate will increase. he talked about 40% of the unemployed have a been unemployed for six months. not good news. do you hear anything? >> he seemed somber and frustrated. frustrating to describe the pace of the recovery. i don't know what you do about this. you have a terrible balancing act. we got should not be borrowing $4 billion a day, $4 trillion in

three or fours years. yet if you cut drastically right away, you derail the recovery. this is what happened in 1937, things were going well and the government started worrying about how much it was borrowing, how much it was spending, started changing the message, raise interest rates and suddenly production plunged. stock market plunged 50% and we lost our nerve. if we're not careful we're talking ourselves out of recovery if we cut to dras particularly. you think wall street investors they need to know that washington is serious about this. so they need to see big sacrifice cut that bernanke worries will hurt the economic recovery. >> greta: it makes you feel uncomfortable? >> when he says a word like that. i think he is doing a great job in many ways, but i wouldn't be surprised if he is frustrated.

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>> greta: here is the begs of the rest. chilling new video that is going surfaced in iceland. it shows looks like a scary creature and creature appears to twist around like a giant worm. there is an old legend about a sea monster. is this proof? >> one lucky tonight. max the dog was out for a walk in colorado. when he spotted a coyote and took off. he chased anymore him in the icy waters but max couldn't get out. the owner called for help and firefighter and he pulled max safely back to show shore and max is just fine.

>> bizarre legal drama ends a bizarre sentence in a florida courtroom. he ended up in court for forgetting to wish his wife happy birthday. since the incident it wasn't too serious. there was a judge an unusual ruling. he ordered him to buy his wife a birthday card and flowers. that wasn't the only thing. he also ordered him to take his wife to red lobster and then bowling. >> 1576 steps, that is the steps to the top of the empire building. athletes raced to the top. they ran up 86 flights from the lobby to the observation deck. that is kruilg even for the best runners. for the first time the annual race was held at night and gave the run ears chance to finish under the sparkling lights of the empire state building. there you have it the best of the rest. >> coming up. last call.

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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here, flash the studio lights, it's time for last call. first lady is leading a campaign to exercise. the tv host got more than he bargained for. the first lady challenged him to a fitness contest. >> we're going to start, ready to do this? >> i was born ready. >> we're all tied up.

>> good luck. >> you're going to need it. ♪ [ music ] . >> i think the most important thing for the kids to learn is that it's all about having fun. it doesn't matter if you won or if you lost. right? >> it matters sclam -- ! >> that is your last call. lights are blinking and we're closing down shop. there is an open thread on greta wire,