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hornswoggle. please remember the spin stops right here because we are definitely looking out for you. >> sean: tonight the white house is cramming blink to. hello, i'm liz cheney in tonight for sean. the budget was unveiled yesterday and includes massive new spending and nearly two trillion in tax increases over the course of the next decade. this morning on capitol hill, treasury-secretary tim geithner appeared before the senate finance committee and had the task of defending this plan. let's take a look. >> the president's plan would lower the deficit from just under 9% of g.d.p. in 2011 to around 3% of g.d.p. in 2018.
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a deficit at that level will stabilize the overall level of debt to g.d.p. in the second half of the decade putting us back on the path of fiscal sustainability. >> they are not buying it. >> under the pronouncements we're hearing from the white house, this budget reduces our deficit by $4 trillion. that is absolutely untrue. it doesn't reduce the deficit at all virtually. give me a break. it increases spending $1.5 trillion and increases taxes $2 trillion almost. >> this is an ambush budget. he is ambushing the american people by promising to cut the deficit by $4 trillion when in fact over the next ten years, he adds to the debt by $11 trillion
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>> joining me is stuart varney from the fox business network and co-host of the five, dana perino. our country stands on the cliff. we're on the verge of debt crisis. he puts forward a budget that doesn't deal with the debt problem, expands government spending, includes massive new taxes, senate hasn't put together a budget in over a 1,000 days. we learned that the president's chief of staff doesn't know how many votes it takes to pass a budget. >> what a mess. that's right. this budget adds to the debt, raises taxes and increases spending. at the end of the budget period, at the end of ten years, we will $26 trillion in debt as opposed to $15-16 trillion we are now. work the path. if this budget goes through, if it does, we'll be paying almost
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$20 billion a week in interest alone. that is not supportable. you can't do that. we are, therefore, heading towards a budget crisis. where lenders refuse us any more money unless they get a greater rate of return. a debt crisis just like europe, we're going in that direction, no question about it. >> if you look at europe, what is going on in greece you see the massive riots in the streets essentially people have lost self-determination. the austerity measures are so difficult but the people have nothing they can do about it because they ignored their debt for so long. can you understand from a political perspective that doesn't concern the administration? >> it's almost as if they are living in a different time period. if you go back 15-20 years you can understand this type of budget being put forward. if you look at greece which a
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lot of us are. some people would say it's apples and oranges but it took decades to get to the place where greece is. pentagon something forward is a statement of priority, did putting forward something is statement of priority. if you want to cut spending in certain places like defense, make the case for it but if it's an exercise in futility, if you know the congress isn't going to do anything with it. if the senate democrats aren't going to put forward the president's budget, you don't know what the president's priorities are. >> it seems the one area willing to cut is in defense. in addition to the $487 billion in defense cuts we're going see over the next ten years, we learned just this evening that the president is now in fact considering cutting our nuclear, strategic forces by as much as
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80%. can you believe that the american people will stand by for this, again if we're going in this election cruel when he is clearly putting the nation's defense at risk. >> it's a hard argument for them to make when there is so many nuclear activity happening all around the world in places that are not friendly with the united states. they have not made a good case for it. i feel like do you want to have a place in the world where you are in a position of leadership. only reason people respect you, you have more than they do. >> why would we do this. why would we retreat on the nuclear front so dramatically? is it saving financially. it is a retreat. if you don't have a forward posture that is one of strength, then i think you are inviting someone to go against i as you
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retreat. someone else will step forward. if that is what we're doing with nuclear weapons that is very dangerous. "the washington post" calls it disarmament. i'm not sure that is going to be popular in america right now. >> the thing we have to remember with nuclear weapons is survivability, your enemy understands if they were to launch an attack we were going to have an arsenal to respond. >> do you reduce the threat of nuclear war by reducing weapons? >> i think that is what the president believes if in. the other thing is class warfare. he can't run on his record. he can't go out and say here are my accomplishments so instead he talks about making sure that the upper income levels pay more. isn't it in fact the case, people in upper income levels are thousand of job creators.
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>> and class warfare, i know all about it. >> it will not work. >> this is directly from the president. we don't begrudge success to success in in america, we don't envy wealthy people but we expect everybody to pay their fair share. that is divisive. president is trying to convince people if they paid more they would pay for all these goodies that he is going to spend money on. its class warfare. it's highly divisive. it's picking a targets, those oil companies and defense companies, it's class warfare. i really hope it doesn't work in america because it doesn't belong in america. >> what do you think the republicans have to do to fight against back that.
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>> in some west they are pushing uphill. an incumbent president is powerful. the economy through the natural course is doing better. they have to make the despite obama's record the economy is getting better. how much risk is there due to europe. it's impossible to say. so the republicans to have find some sort of passion at way in terms of vision of america, decline is a choice. there is a way forward where we could have a good education, good strong safety netted, i mean in the entitlement spending and social security in this president's budget he doesn't address. and the simpson-boles plan he asked for and kicked to the side of the road. would have dealt with. the republicans definitely have a did i job but if you look at the battleground states, unemployment is up, housing is
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terrible. deficit numbers i just projected in this budget are tough. everybody wants america to do better. there is too very strong competing visions. >> we could be doing much better. >> that will have difficult thing republicans will have to show. >> spending and debt, that is what my problem is. >> thank you guys very much. coming up, daniel l. jackson says he voted for the president because he is black. floyd merry weather has a job floyd merry weather has a job about one of the n.b.a.'s rising are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule.
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welcome back to hannity. high profile americans have made some controversial statements regarding race. first we learned from samuel jackson the only reason he voted for barack obama was, quote, he was black. he revealed that in an interview and he said, i hope obama gets scary in the next four years because he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. floyd may weather made a statement. he treated jeremy lynn as a good player but all the hype because
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she asian. black players do what he did every night and don't get the same praise. joining me is fox news political amp it will, juan williams. >> happy valentine's day, i wore this tie for you. [ laughter ] >> listen, samuel l. jackson, i don't think but what about policy analysis. does it matter why he voted for barack obama? >> you know. the way i think, liz, i have a four letter response for jackson iowa. there is one that supported barack obama. vote from hispanic americans, 65%, asian-americans similar numbers. race plays a role in politics but so does transcending race
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and samuel jackson want to revert, clanish, ethnic politics. he uses the "n" word recklessly, he is basically putting down barack obama historic accomplishment of getting people to rise above race in this country when they voted for him. juan, i'm speechless because i agree with what you just said there. look, one of the things he went on to say he hopes the president gets scary in his second term. >> that is stereo typing. >> not a race issue but he hopes he becomes more liberal and feeling restricted by an election coming up he'll actually be more radical. is that your sense of things? >> guest: i don't know what he meant. that is a fear certainly being promoted by the right. what would obama unskriyd, unplugged look like.
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here is the thing. i think what samuel jackson was doing, he is going to be the angry black man. he said if he was giving the state of the union and some congressman shattered out liar, he would gone and attacked him. this is madness. it shows how base his thinking is. he is an actor with a movie coming out he wants to advance he is edgy young black guy. it's ridiculous. it goats into our bloodstream in terms of thought and thinking. suddenly we discussing on a serious show. i don't think he deserves it. >> i think you are right. if you look at what happened with jeremy lynn, as well. don't we get to a point in society we can say we trailblazers in the world of sports but at some point, can't you say somebody is great basketball player, whether they are saying asian-american player he is amazing period? >> guest: i agree. when we talk about floyd
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mayweatherer. this is a guy who has mocked an asian opponent by saying we're going to feed him cats and dogs. he admitted to beating his girlfriend. this is not a thought leader in the black community, american community, athletic community. here he is saying, that this is all about race. race the fact that jeremy lin is asian, is novelty. i'll tell you what the story is. this guy can play basketball. he has made his team better. knicks are better team. they have been on five-game winning streak. he has been scoring 27 points with eight or nine assists a game. nobody in the league's history has done that in the first four starts. the fact he has been able to do this is astounding and he is underdog. he got out of harvard, never drafted. went through several teams
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including golden state which is larger asian population, they cut him. if it was just about race they wouldn't have cut him. he would have been a novelty act. jem jeremy lin is the real deal. >> i think are right. at the end of the day, isn't the issue about economic opportunity here? shouldn't we be a society where race isn't the issue. the issue is giving everybody a shot to succeed regardless of the color of their skin? >> guest: i don't want to people think we're agreeing on too much because that is upsetting. whole history of african-american athletes is just as you described it. just let people play. let people who can perform, demonstrate their excellence and don't put a racial limits. don't go back to hitler's aryan standards. let them play. let jeremy play. lots of asian-americans are going to celebrate him because he is extraordinary. i don't think there is another
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american asian playing in the n.b.a. if you love sports and love basketball, the story is, wow, he has revived the knicks. he is exciting. >> juan, i think i have to wrap this segment. you and i agreed everything we talked about today. i appreciate you coming on. >> take care. >> two faith leaders who disagree w about the president's contraception accommodation. we'll be in the studios to debate it. driving source behind the santorum surge has been discovered. we'll tell you what group of reporters is responsible for rick santorum [ kyle ] my b. [ roger ] tell me you have go insurance. yup, i've got... [ dennis ] ...allstate. really? i was afraid you'd have some cut-rate policy. [ kyle ] nope, i've got... [ dennis ] ...the allstate value plan. it's their most affordable car insurance -- and you still get an allstate agent. i too have... [ dennis ] ...allstate.
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if i'm asking skd to do something against my conscience i better be willing to die for that. if i'm not willing to die for that, what am i standing up for? >> joining me is jonathan morris and rabi eric yafe. father morris, given what was said last week and this is clearly a question of church doctrine, obviously accommodation is not acceptable, so where do we go from here? >> what i'm saying is not radical. what i'm saying is not controversial. what i'm saying is not something out of the ordinary in terms of the big picture of history. if the federal government or any government is to tell somebody you are required to violate your conscience on an essential element of your faith, the question is not, okay, i'm
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willing, well, pay a fine, but i'm not willing to go to jail. i'm willing to go to jail but i'm not willing to die. no, just the opposite. the conscience is invaluable and if the federal government is asking them to violate the conscience, whether we agree on this issue or not, the conscience, of course i'm willing to die and, of course, i'm willing to pay a fine in order to not go against something that is essential to my faith. that is most normal, non-radical thing i can think of. >> it means that government position to minimize the interference of religion would be unacceptable. rabbi you have talked about this new accommodation that the administration announced, it minimizes government's
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interference. how can that be sufficient? >> first of all i agreed with the policy to begin with. you. >> so you are very radical. [ laughter ] >> well said. >> what the president was trying to do in this case was to minimize direct involvement or even indirect involvement of religious groups. think it was appropriate to make the accommodation, i agree with the policy and i stand behind it. >> how rabbi is it possible for us to be in a situation where the government of united states to mandate the catholic church or any religious organization to take action that is in violation of church doctrine. how is that not only a violation of our constitution and first amendment but fundamental moral value? >> i don't agree it's a violation of the constitution. we live in the most diverse religious country in the world.
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the notion that everybody is entitled to do what their conscience tells them to do would create a situation -- in this particular situation, there is a first amendment violation when specific conditions exist. if you have a law that is neutral, it applies to everybody and doesn't target any particular religious group, then there is no first amendment violation. i want to suggest to you that those conditions exist here. it violate the father's conscience and the con shechbs of many americans i would suggest. >> oh, my gosh. absolutely different. if we suggest that the government is the one who decides who can violate their conscience, my goodness, what have we come to? it comes down to this. do we believe in the individual's ability to decide what they believe in. whether or not the government is
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going to step in and say you are not allowed to believe in that. we have a long tradition and that is purpose of the first amendment, a long tradition, the government saying, you know what? we are not able to judge what you decide is right or wrong, but we're going to respect it. that is essential part of our government. this suggestion that accommodation, it's like this. we recognize that it goes against my conscience to kill someone. the president is saying, you know what, don't worry about it. you don't have to kill that person anymore. we're going to just make sure you take somebody else to do it for you, to kill that person for you. that is an analogy. >> wouldn't it be the same if the government came to you, look your synagogue must take this action that violates the tenets
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of judaism. >> we have people that as a sincere matter of religious conviction say they don't want to pay any taxes for any military action abroad. they believe it. do we permit those people to do that is in the scenes, we do not. >> that is not the question. if the government said to you, your synagogue must take this action that fundamentally violates the tenets of your faith.... >> would i personally, there ticking ota i can the stand of father morris, yes. as a matter of public policy, does a church or mosque have to the right to do whatever what they wishes. >> they have an exemption from this particular element of the law. >> religious institution, that hires people from the general
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population outside of that church. >> that's right but the money must come from the church. >> hopefully find a common ground. remember the great story, seven children and their mother who decided that they were going to go to death in order not to eat pork. right? it was mandated by the king against their religion. the whole story of the new testament, precisely that i will not do it. you are say pork is -- it violated their conscience. it violated their faith and they did not do it precisely because the federal government the king has no right to tell me i have to do what is against my conscience. >> i think we haven't heard the end of this. i thank you so much for being here this evening. >> up next, rick santorum is now leading mitt romney in a new
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>> sean: you see folks in main stream media love the idea we have republican goesing after republicans taking a look at ads that have been running we've put up that begin to go after president obama. tell us what you're seeing. >> there are 20 states with swing voters. green line represents swing democrats. the higher the lines climb, the more favorable the ads. and let's start with the republican national committee ad. it takes on obama for what he's done and let's take a look. >> that is why i'm in this race to offer change that we can believe in. >> millions of people going hungry every single day. >> why do you think you
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deserve to be reelected. >> not happy with the way you're doing your job. >> wdon't know what the strategy is. >> you still have soft consumer demands. people are shaking their heads. >> i don't think they're better off than four years ago. >> and this is rare green line is ahead of the red line. make no mistake. there is disappointment even among those who voted for him. and that is a campaign began and has been showing his own words, language turning people on so much in 2008 and how it hasn't resulted in anything positive since 2012. >> you can see continuing here a real gap between the president's rhetoric and the reality. i'm wondering if you've seen,
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if you can remember, frank, campaign the president going into his second term there was so little focus on the record. you don't see the president talking about what he's accomplished and done for the american people. he seems to be going with his class warfare. do you think that will wrk for him? >> it does and jimmy carter did not run on his record. the economy got so much worse, interest rates were 20%, inflation in double digits. jimmy carter spent the campaign attacking ronald reagan. i don't know whether it will work for obama. this one focuses on issues and reason why is spending. let's take a look. >> we're getting clean energy and potential for hundreds of
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thousands of jobs... >> >> very powerful ad forkuses on typical washington embrace, and focuses on insider deals. and language is powerful, vions are powerful. black and white shots are very effective ad and asking the question what has president obama actually done? he is a front runner and still leading in almost every service at four, five six points. over the long term you've got to be nervous about the ads. >> i think they're effective and thank you for being with us tonight. time now to check in now with greta and see what she's got
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and noelle also joins us. we've heard in the last 24 hours coming out muslim brotherhood in egypt. we have a large aid program particularly military assistance. we know that they have been holding american hostages and we have them at embassy to provide them protection. we heard the muslim brotherhood is threatening us, if we pull back the aid they won't abide with the treaty with israel? >> it's very interesting how obama is going to be handling this. you have to realize since '79 we've been sending over two billion aidtul annually not to mention $1.3 billion for the foreign military aide. you know what i think is odd there is no preconditions on this money.
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like for human rights. there is no conditions on this money the muslim brotherhood aren't exactly our friends there. when mubarak was overthrown, look what we have now. >> people recognize the military relationship is an important one it's hard tou.s. congress. >> to keep peace and it's really not exactly with what is going on over there. >> i would be surprised if the congress didn't take real action. >> we have actually had peace. they have not violated the treaty, also on their end while they are doing the clamp down would violate the certification we have back in december. >> this muslim brotherhood. this is not a peacemaker. >> bottom line no matter what we
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do or don't do, they are looking for reason to attack israel. they are hell bent on doing that. which is inherently the problem. they are more likely to keep peace with a pork chop at this point. if you really want to heard them. >> let's use pork. [ laughter ] >> take away the things they care about which is western culture. they are holding the hostages money. like me punishing the kid by taking allowance and he threatens to my kid's sister. if you take away things they love there, iphones and top culture stuff they love, they won't be so tough. >> 71% don't want our money. there are 16 americans who are in danger being referred to
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trial. >> and at the same time we're facing brand-new situation in egypt. we've got iran. you have seen this week the attacks on israeli diplomats. israelis say they will respond. they clearly believe it was iran. isn't there a concern that the united states is walking away and basically saying, okay, we're out here precisely the moment and tensions are going up. >> by holding back funds? >> by deciding we can say we're done and finished. >> i don't get the sense u.s. is walking away. june has own agenda. they see a void in the region of the world. you don't pick on israel. they are toughest kid on the block. >> with obama at the helm has not been a friend to israel.
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>> what? >> wait a minute, wait a minute. when prime minister netanyahu came to the united states the first time under this administration he was treated very shabbily. the administration has been saying clearly, sending signals that they oppose any potential military actions by the israelis against iran. speaking privately. we understand, we cannot allow iran. >> but the reason iran has inherent hatred for israel. they are trying to do it but poorly. it's like godfather, major and sonny get killed. they are dumb, they are fredo. >> and sarcozi and mics weren't thought and what happened there.
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we continue with great american panel. we had the tragic news of the death of whitney houston. while much of the recollection and memory is focused on her god given voice. it's made everybody stop and take a look how she lived her life in the later years. we still don't know whether drugs were part of the cause of her death. could you talk a little bit about what her life. >> clive davis put her next to aretha franklin, i feel like people say we'll go after the doctors that prescribed the medicine and pharmacy. go after the entourage and enable this behavior. it's in their best interests to keep these people alive. when one dies, the only thing you can put on your resume
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entourage, drug mule. that is hard to get a job on your resume with that. so i think we'll see a lot fewer of these deaths. >> but being the living so close to the hotel as it is, and liberals are saying on panel, where the personal responsibility. most physicians are good. whether it's in l.a., hollywood or arkansas. then additionally, you do have the entourage but at the end of the day, that person... [ talking over each other ] >> the whole culture of hollywood that we see this time and time again, an incredibly talented young person. every time you see somebody that is starting out.
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what kind of path are they on. >> you can't make every physician skittish on what they are supposed to do. somebody needs xanax and somebody takes the whole bottle. people have to have personal responsibility. >> i'm a performer. i know i look cool and -- it's very insecure people that tend to be performing, including myself. i joke if my mother didn't hug me i wouldn't be comedian. i really think it's very hard to have personal responsibility when you are inherently fragile as a performer. so i think those people seize upon that insecurity, take advantage of it and don't protect your own best interests. >> if we're talking about prescription medications, somebody has to be prescribing that. we may see a doctor on trial.
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>> that is a different deal. the guy was administering with a drug. this was different. she went to a physician and got pills. who knows he did it with something else. >> the question is, is it important to shift topics here valentine share your political beliefs? i got to tell you. i think of mary madeline as my sister. whenever james carville is dick cheney son-in-law? what do you think. do you have to share political philosophy to be in love with them. >> to be in love with them, yes, but friends, but a dating relationship, i don't know mary and james do it or ma we ree yeah and -- they are gone.
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>> if you vote republican, there is the couch. if you vote democrat. >> 51%1%1% of american people ie latest poll, yes you have to share the same political beliefs. 47% ses say no, it doesn't matter. >> i think it's misleading. >> they were all women because you women want us to agree on everything. three lovely women and i'm outnumbered. >> you are very nice to spend your valentine's day here. i don't know what the alternatives were. >> i'm in love. >> that is all we have time for. thank you for being with us. we toss it to greta van susteren who is standing by live to go on the record.
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