>> that is your last call. lights are blinking and we're closing down shop. we'll see you again tomorrow go greta wire.com. tomorrow night rick santorum will be right here on the record. good night from washington, d.c.. captioned by closed captioning services, inc >> eric: hello, i'm eric bolling with andrea tantaros, bob beckel, dana perino, greg gutfeld. it's 1:30 in the morning in tehran. this is "the five." ♪ ♪ >> eric: gasoline hitting $3.52 a gallon for the first time ever in february. if they include all surcharges $1 a barrel to staggering $102 a barrel. meaning much more pain at the pump headed our way. what is causing run-up in prices? tensions in the middle east are palpable. iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad personall personal g

the switch on the nuclear plant and showing the bird to israel. they are announcing that they are ready, able and able to drop a bomb on iran. how does the tension translate to high gas prices here? take a look at the telestrator. we broke out the telestrator for the first time. check out the world's most sensitive and dangerous oil choke point. 17 million-barrels pass through the strait of hormuz. more than 20% of all the world's consuming ability. all the production in the world passes right through the area there. 20 miles wide. here is the problem, though. here is the -- >> greg: i want an aisle seat. >> eric: you can come over and look. i will let you draw on this. iran, one side. saudi arabia on the other side. the problem is iran says and they try to in the past that they want to cut off the 20-mile choke point, that would mean the oil prices would skyrocket. and my guess, guys that would happen $10 a gallon.

>> dana: like in england. >> eric: where is the nobel prize winner with all of this going on? why can't he get peace in the middle east? >> eric: you really do like an airline agent. >> greg: you look like a travel agent. >> eric: take the map one more time. >> andrea: uh-oh. oh, no. seriously, problems going on this means, this is huge to the american main stream. >> andrea: it's true. where is the president? this is a complicated situation. it's not easy. but this also is not something you can solve by the carpet bombing. libya can't send in the seals for this one. a lot of people say the best hope for to us deal with iran was regime change. we had that opportunity in 2009. green revolution. that was one revolution that the president decided not to

stick up for and not to back. that was a missed opportunity here. it was also a missed opportunity of a president not pursuing the keystone pipeline. been in office three years and had opportunities to make us less reliant on foreign oil and didn't do that. as you point out with the threat of gas prices skyrocketing we have a president who really sat on his hands and made us more dependent and more volatile when it comes to the situation in iran. >> bob: i'm listening to this. first, of all, obama put the greatest sanctions on iran, the most workable sanctions, the european union joined in the sanctions at their great cost. much of their oil from there. but not only has he done a lot here, green revolution i'll point out the chances of us participating in green revolution, were near zero. the idea we could get ourselves mixed up in that. by the way, libya last i saw, gaddafi was dead. >> andrea: how is it working out with the sanctions? >> bob: fine.

they're fine. >> dana: i used to talk about this issue a lot. it's probably unfair to president obama and the white house to say they haven't paid a lot of attention to it. think they probably have. it's been behind the scenes. i don't think there is any question now as a lot of the intel people for a long time cautioned everybody to say the possible nuclear weapons program in iran. i think that's over. i think we know they have one. the question is why now? why aren't the sanctions working? the e.u. and the united states now realize israel is not bluffing. israel's clock, they are looking at is within the next couple of months, they want to see a complete freeze on the nuclear program. if they don't have that, they are concerned. so the e.u. extraordinary step of embargo. and the united states is backing them very strongly. and there is not a lot of slack in the market. that is the problem. >> eric: that is a huge problem.

greg, that probably the only problem here is because there is no slack in the market. why is there no slack in the market? >> greg: why there are no slacks in the market? hagger slacks. i can't get them anyway. the big countries should have no problem with the embargo, because all of that green technology they have been working on will take care of it. don't worry about it. here is my theory we must employ. the sandcastle theory. you are on the beach and you don't knock over a kid's sandcastle until he is done building it. you just wait and wait until they have the nuclear reactors built and then you blow them up. that seeps to be the most sensible option. you wait until they put enough time in it so they work it. >> bob: the iranians cut back production by 20%. the saudis will fill in whatever they they can. the last people to see it is saudis. there is more than meets the

eye. there is a lot of diplomacy. >> eric: nonetheless, $102 a barrel. reaching record oil prices. it doesn't have to be that way. >> greg: don't they want the see more for gas? we are drug addicts and oil is the drug so why not pay more and wean us off our addiction. i remember that. >> dana: the problem is it doesn't work. >> eric: this is how it doesn't have to be that way. 1970 we produced 9 million-barrel of oil per day in this country. now we produce 5-1/2 mill barrels per day in the country. we dropped 40%. we don't have to -- >> bob: wells going dry? >> eric: nothing to do with that. it has to do with the permitting process, and the refusal to do the xl pipeline. >> greg: more scare of caribou than pipeline. >> dana: that is an longer term play. i advocate for it and good idea and it sends good signal

to the market for long-term things but go back to why now? the clock speeded up. i think that they realize now israel is not bluffing. i always understood israel would not act if they thought united states had its back. unfortunately in the last few years you had a breakdown if trust on the political level. i still think the military has trust but on the political level there is tension. >> bob: there is tension. remember that the united states, cia and assad taken out the nuclear engineers. and some bold moves. i think we will find out in the report, the marketable things going on. one thing that the aircraft carriers are moving in place is not just to protect the strait of hormuz but to backup israel in case of a -- >> dana: yeah. >> andrea: take at it step further. safe that israel does act. are we confident that the europeans with us have the stomach for conflict in the middle east? are we going to have their back? >> bob: sure.

we'll ensure not a plain takes off from iranian soil to intercept the israeli planes. we will provide command and control facilities and ensure that strait of hormuz remains open. >> eric: can i ask why do you think sanctions are working? >> bob: why? >> dana: i know why. >> dana: iranian currency is valued at half of what they were. >> dana: they changed it. went after the central bank. >> eric: what is working? it's $102 a barrel for the first time ever in february. what is working? >> bob: what does it have to do with anything? >> eric: how is the sanction against iran working -- >> bob: so we shouldn't have sanctions against iran? >> eric: personally, i'll ask you guys but i think obama should go to israel and say look, you go, we have your back. >> dana: a former colleague and friend of mine runs united against nuclear iran. they helped write the new sanctions bill that went in place. they do look at that. in the past few weeks you start going after the particular money men in charge, it puts pressure on them which is possibly why

they are starting to -- you see agitation in ahmadinejad's announcement. >> eric: why is gallon of gasoline $3.52 today? >> dana: you are the expert. there are a lot of reasons but partly because people are nervous. >> eric: sanctions aren't working. switch to nuclear enrichment plans. >> bob: of course. the way they're working is not selling the oil. stabilization in the economy. they have had a terrible situation. it's starting to crack apart. you know what? >> greg: geithner and krugman, worse tan any sanctions. the economy would crumble. >> i'm trying to figure out what is working. if that is working stop working. >> bob: you don't take in account the bush administration and administration both let iran know in no uncertain terms that the nuclear strike on israel you will cease to exist. >> andrea: in no uncertain terms? 1967 border did not -- >> bob: they don't come and tell you, andrea, that, they

will do it. they do it in quiet conversations with them, and cease to exist. got to go. >> directly ahead, sarah palin says obama's contraception mandate is un-american. i tend to agree. we'll show you what he is said coming up. don't forget to e-mail us at thefive@foxnews.com. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ [♪...] >> announcer: bank robbery

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> andrea: welcome back to "the five." all right, the controversy between the catholic church and the obama white house continues. in an interview with "associated press," archbishop timothy dolan was asked if he feels that the president is antireligion? here is what he had to say. >> i don't want to believe he is antireligion. he assured me personally and i believe him he highly respects the work of the churches. >> eric: okay. some are making hey about this, saying he doesn't believe it. but he didn't rule it out in the interview. >> greg: you have to be careful. i don't think president obama is being antireligion, i just

think he didn't think about religion when he was doing it. to him he thinks about votes, women's rights. he doesn't understand the kerfuffle. >> andrea: what is a kerfuffle. >> dana: when you rub a chicken the wrong way. >> greg: i'm exhausted by this topic. i think that is the strategy here. to wear you down because they assume you won't fight over it. and it won't exist. i'm not sure about that. >> andrea: the president has come out and said, the advisors said he is not backing down. they made concessions and that is it. so let's say he does concede. is there any chance that -- that it would happen or is he just done? >> dana: i think he is done and they don't care. they are going to move on. to me, it's not contraception. to me it goes to the religious

liberty issue. i worry about taking away that one step and what could come next for any religion. archbishop dolan, we didn't hear the question. you don't repeat the negative. do you assume president obama is antireligion? sometimes if you don't want to be edited you should not repeated. i think he probably did. i don't think he meant that it way. not a kerfuffle. you didn't know that? >> greg: no. >> andrea: they may be hoping that republican and conservatives talk about it. >> dana: they think it's helping them. they probably think it's helping them. >> andrea: your buddy sarah palin came out and called it uncertain. take a listen. >> this is un-american act of the president. anything that blatantly violates the amendment is un-american. barack obama needs to rethink what he has done to america

because we are rising up on this one. we are not going to back off. >> this is a message by conservatives leading up to election day. help or hurt them? >> eric: it hurts. especially over the summer when obama care is going to come up in the supreme court. they need to focus in on what obama and sebelius want to do. the religious freedom thing will come and go. but you're telling insurance they have to provide a product. it might violate the commerce cause. if i'm on the right, or the g.o.p. nominee, i would - would --overtal -- [ overtalk ] >> eric: you still don't mandate. >> bob: of course you do. why should you not mandate -- >> eric: name one other thing that is mandated by the

government? >> bob: what do you mean? >> eric: ther is nothing in the world -- >> dana: you make someone give to someone for free. why are you willing to subsidize the 1%? all women get this for free? why should women earning in the 1% get free contraception. aside from my strong concern about the religious liberty point, why should the federal taxpayer subsidize all women? >> bob: insurance companies provides this. >> dana: who pays for it? this is why obamacare falls apart like a house of cards. >> andrea: people say what is next? what do you subsidize? condom? >> bob: the premiums have gone up 30% without obamacare because insurance companies rip them off and you stand back and defend them. >> andrea: i have a poll for you. >> bob: 2-1 support obama, right? >> andrea: they asked for affiliated employees, hospital

or university do you support or oppose the federal requirement to cover the full cost of birth control? support 61%, oppose 31%. this is worded funny. i know you don't believe this. but what if they would have said against their religious beliefs? the number would have been lower. >> dana: i think that's biased. >> greg: they polled people in the "new york times" lobby. >> dana: the cafe. >> greg: you said something about condoms and it's logically, why not condoms? why not alcohol? alcohol reduces sexual performance for a lot of people perhaps that contraceptive. >> andrea: that is my point, what is next. >> greg: that's true. we all know that. >> bob: what about crack mother that shouldn't have done it. he is has a baby. do you think the baby has equal chance of someone in harlem -- >> dana: what does that have to do with -- >> bob: everything.

contraception, he is won't have a crack baby. >> dana: oh, my gosh, that is -- >> andrea: you remember to take a birth control pill every day. >> bob: he is could take the day after pill. >> dana: oh, my god. oh, my god. >> eric: that is not available to any woman that wants one? nay can walk in any planned parenthood office to get one. >> bob: does every woman have access to free contraceptives? >> dana: why should any taxpayers dollars, if you believe life begins at conception, then why should a federal taxpayer have any of their money to go to do something they consider murder? i think that's fundamentally wrong. >> greg: but bob is hitting on something that the left makes it availability of the poor. this is more about getting rid of the poor. >> bob: what? >> greg: getting rid of the poor. >> bob: did you say that? >> greg: yes. >> dana: it's not a bad point. population control. >> greg: the difference

between the left and the right, the right wants the left to get rich and the left wants poor not to exist. >> dana: name one thing. >> bob: they cut back on the welfare program, training programs. >> dana: we feel? wait a second. wasn't that bill clinton? >> bob: they cut back on everything they can to help those people. what they do is keep tax break for rich people. >> dana: i would love a fact check on that statement. >> andrea: we're going to do that. by the end of the show. good news for president obama means good news for bob. and good mood for bob. bob beckel will tell us why he is so happy next. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> bob: welcome back. the good news continues to pile up on the economy for president obama. most striking is the number of people today who think the economy is getting better as opposed to getting worse. it's now 3-1 -- 2 to 1 in favor of it getting better. last september, 3 to 1 thought it was getting worse. congratulations on the recovery, mr. president. but when asked about the length of the recession, president obama ran in difficulty trying to explain it. we show you what he said in north carolina. >> this recession turned out to be deeper than anyone realized. if you look back at the estimate in terms of how the jobs we lost or how it contracted since i took

office. everybody under estimated and the die had been cast. we didn't understand how bad it was going to get. >> bob: had the die been cast? >> dana: no. republicans, have a tougher job to do. it's difficult to one against the incumbent. and when they start to feel like okay, maybe things aren't as bad as they were. you try to prove it won't get worse. this is a reason they are tuning out. they are tired of it. in your segment it was like back here, winding up eric bolling. now set him on his way. >> andrea: how can you say that he undermast ited when trying to pass the second part of tarp. screaming this is a crisis. what are you reading? harry potter? >> i think what he underestimates was the extent of the recession.

>> andrea: but bob, when he took office and right before he took office, he was screaming from the rooftops, all over the media saying this is a huge crisis. we need to pass it. this could be catastrophe. >> bob: he was trying to avoid a depression. he did. >> eric: we are so screwed. you have no idea. in three years -- no, not "the five." obama attached more debt on national debt than any other president including bush at a faster rate than any other president. gasoline prices up 91% from february 20, 2009, the day he took oath to today. >> bob: can you sit there with a straight face and say we're barreling toward it?

>> eric: barreling toward it. >> greg: if the government was shrinking he would be wrong. but it's not. it's expanding. >> bob: look at the american people of what eric think. got a poll on president obama job rating. >> andrea: eric is not an american person? >> bob: sort of. approve for the first 50% since 2010. disapprove 43%. it's up considerably than a few months ago and continues to gain. the guy is -- people are -- is that humorous? >> dana: i think it's funny like basically the -- yeah, it's over. walking into this victory. >> bob: that is a poll. i don't find it funny. >> dana: the magical 50% from the "new york times" poll for obama. it could be true. >> bob: not just them. >> andrea: when you have headline writers thousand of them that will vote for you, your base, writing great headlines. >> bob: cbs and "new york

times" are falsifying this poll data? >> andrea: they exaggerate a lot of headlines about the economy, just like you did on the show when you said we're done. out of the recession. >> eric: i don't doubt that the poll is turning around. that won't matter if gasoline goes four or $5 a gallon or china says you know what? at $20 trillion i'm not charging you 2% on the money. i'm going to charge you four or five. then the servicing of the debt is not $300 billion or $400 billion, it's $1 trillion a year. where are we going then? >> bob: they have no trouble selling the bonds. >> eric: you better pray china keeps growing. that's all i got to say. why are they going to buy anything? they're kicking our ass. >> bob: what do you mean?

>> eric: they're growing. >> andrea: there is talk they will have trouble growing inventory. the growth is not going to continue. japanese earthquake took them offline in manufacturerring. >> bob: the projections now that growth is 3% as opposed to 2.5. you can argue it won't happen. >> dana: they are basing the budget assumption on 4% growth. >> bob: yes, they did. >> dana: it's all smoke and mirrors. >> bob: i'll stay out of this. you would be happy to see this. approval rating on the economy and how he handles the economy. it's not very good, still. approve 44%, disapprove 50%. this is decided like better than a few months ago. we can argue that the polls are falsifyed and phony and a

joke. the average, the idea we're coming back, american people share it. that's good. don't we want to be optimistic and share it? >> greg: look, you know, when we were winning the war in iraq, i was optimistic and the left and media painted it as dismal failure. i refuse to say the economy is in the pooper. but i'll question whether it's real. it's being exaggerated. look at the payroll tax cut. matchion giving us more of our money back. it's like rebate for overpriced car. >> bob: one thing that takes advantage of is we find out because you have to have an election. >> greg: true. >> bob: you will have your way and if not, you won't. should the food police tell your kids what to eat? it's happening. greg will tell us about it coming up. stick with us. ♪ ♪ 5-hour energy?

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♪ ♪ >> greg: welcome back to "the five." a north carolina preschooler forced to eat chicken nuggets because the woman serving it told her mother's lunch didn't meet the mark. they billed the mom for the food. now we have another war, on the brown bag. the government assumes feeding your kid because you can't be trusted. it eliminates crucial charm of childhood like the joy of watching your hungover mom

using ketchup to make your pg&j. i never told her. of course, the fun of trading a ho-ho for a ding dong. it has nothing to do with food. it has something we did in prison. but it reveals the maturity of the government justifying its life by controlling yours. the real hypocrisy is when the liberals say get the government out of our bedroom and then they stand by for this stuff. i want to guess what kind of lunchbox you had as a child. >> dana: okay. >> greg: strawberry shortcake. >> dana: no. too old. it had holly hobby. not long ago i was at the eastern market, flea market on sundays walking by and someone that sells antiques was selling a holly hobby lunchbox. one with the thermos.

>> greg: i had three older sisters so i knew everything. did you have a bag or lunch pail? >> andrea: i started off with a snow white pink lunchpail and then i went to brown bags. i matured. this was last month. >> greg: eric, did you have ted nugget live free or die, holster. >> eric: i had a holster. >> greg: exactly. >> eric: no, i had brown paper bag. if i had a choice at that age i would have had muppets. >> andrea: really? >> dana: which muppet? all of them? >> greg: bob, this falls under the department of agriculture, isn't it time to get rid of department? going after people's sandwiches? giving them nuggets. >> bob: terrible. i used to make breakfast for my brother and sister and me and it was horrible.

they finally forced schoo food n school. we had to eat fish sticks. that's why i never eat fish because of that. >> greg: i don't eat fish that, and other reasons but fish sticks. >> bob: horrible. what i do question is what do you do is someone is sent to school with no lunch or very little lunch? is there a way to enhance that? >> andrea: look at the lunch packed, turkey sandwich, apples. this would have had a launch my mom would have packed. dana and my mom used to pack a note. thanks, mom. i remember the chicken nugget day with buttered noodle. the grease on the plate from the chicken nuggets? what is the alternative. >> dana: you might find that

the state employee could be a shareholder of the chicken farm. if you think about it, why would you -- >> greg: nuggets. what happened is they gave an extra meal to replace this one so he is had two meals but he is only ate the nuggets from the second meal. a smell a pulitzer. >> eric: get out of my nuggets. >> dana: for you or the one who wrote this? >> greg: the person who wrote it. it's incredible. it's incredible. this almost feels like a parody of a story. >> eric: what is wrong? >> bob: i'm thinking about fish sticks. this has gone overboard. does it change the situation, that kids go to school that don't have nutritiousal meals. it has to be supplemented. they carry it too far.

there has to be a meganism in place if they don't have meals they get them. >> eric: every school in country has mechanism. >> andrea: absolutely. >> bob: good. b. i remember my teachers, they weren't that healthy. for a teacher to come over. i should leave it at that. >> bob: my teacher smoked in glass. not dope. cigarettes. >> dana: open the window? >> bob: no. >> andrea: what grade was this? >> bob: third. they had ashtrays. seriously, ashtrays on the desk. >> greg: those were the day days. n.b.a. sensation jeremy lin is on fire. that's highly dangerous. that's a metaphor. he hit a game-winning home run in the basket match they play with the orange board. we'll discuss it next. leave now and i'll cry myself to sleep.

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>> dana: all right. the reason i have a confused look on my face, i studied all day to talk about basketball and jeremy lin but we're not talking about it because we have a surprise guest we're welcoming in the studio. and the five of us have no idea who it is. looking, you are going to get a special treat. [ applause ] governor sarah palin. >> that is fantastic. oh, bob beckel. >> eric: nice to see you. >> hi, governor. good to see you. >> i love you guys. >> dana: hi, governor. good to see you. how are you? >> greg: good to see you. >> dana: welcome. >> in the neighborhood. i thought i'd stop by. >> bob: i asked you this yesterday, can i do it again? can i call you say ra? >> you may. >> andrea: be nice to her. he is gave you box of chocolates yesterday. >> bob: you're not supposed to say that. >> i heard you had no valentine.

>> dana: i love it. how is he doing? >> he is getting glasses today and i'm not there to pick them out. >> greg: how about these? kimberly got me these. >> he's a 4-year-old. >> what time is "the five" on in alaska? >> at night. >> in the morning? >> no. >> wait. >> it's 2:00. >> then you repeat. >> is that the one you have a chance to see? >> yes. >> we get to see "red eye" at decent time. >> greg: at 11:00. >> yeah. you watch it every night. >> it's take men the longest time to figure out that show. >> andrea: c we get into politics with you? a lot of people say that your comments right before south carolina where you encouraged conservatives to come out. you were the voice for all the conservatives that were unhappy with what was happening. stand up, we need conservative

candidate. that you changed the nature of the race. a lot of people say gingrich should get out and rick santorum is the real conservative. who are you putting your money behind? you are not happy with mitt romney. >> i truly believe in competition, it will elevate each one of their games. that's what they need. they need to start focusing more on the main thing. the main thing being how is it that they can contrast their ideas with president obama failed ideas? that is what i am a proponent of. more competition, more debate. >> bob: tough having 4 to 1, let alone 5 to 1. i want to get off politics. thank you for the material you have given me. it's been great. now talk about politics. this should be competition, but doesn't it make since to whittle down to two people going after each other? we had a conservative alternative to mitt romney,

let them fight it out. less ambiguous and more clear, isn't it? >> we have 300 million some people and only 1 million to cast a vote or primary process. we have people with a say. yeah, it gets whittled down, but not yet. there is much to be discussed. >> eric: we talked earlier and we did an interview. fantastic 15 minutes. you told me you like "the five." you watch it. >> i do. >> we have a side bet whether they're thinking of brokered conventions this year. i say yes, he doesn't think so. what do you think? >> i think so. >> there can be, especially if it's going the way they are going without specifically romney being able to get over the hump. convince the majority of g.o.p. participants that he is

the one to be able to handle what it is that barack obama campaign machine is going to throw at him. >> dana: if you go to 2008 campaign there is a friday night i watched from the press secretary's office. i don't know if you remember this. you did an interview with savannah guthrie. he is followed you around. it was for trig really. there was a moment where he is asked if you felt responsibility as a mother with a son with down's -- you felt responseability to other kids. all the trig t-shirts. it wonder if you could share that moment. i remember thinking that was an excellent moment, i think told people this is who governor palin really is. >> it was a moment where i think i could connect to other people who maybe face challenges, not necessarily having a child or a family member with special needs, but knowing that everybody has channels in life.

and mine just happened to be played out sometimes on the cover of the "national enquirer" or whatever, but relating to people who learn through the school of hard knocks and don't have the perfectly coifed persona or family. yet you are strengthened and you learn from the circumstances around you that are not necessarily ideal. i felt a connection to people through that. >> dana: i remember that. >> bob: i'm the last middle age white guy liberal. think about me. you look terrific. >> thank you. so do you. >> eric: i asked the governor if they go to brokered convention and tap the governor, what should he is say? i won't reveal it now.

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>> eric: we are back and honored to have one of my favorite people on the planet. >> greg: you mentioned "red eye." i'm curious why it took a while to start liking it? >> i couldn't figure it out and wondered what demographic was attracted to it at 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. you said one time sarah palin would never come on the show or never run for president if she was on this show. that's always struck me as indicative of this weirdness of it. >> dana: therefore you are on tonight so you'll challenge him. >> bob: sometimes he opens up with monologues and we'll go what is that all about? >> greg: because you fall asleep. >> bob: i don't. >> greg: you text. >> bob: i don't read them.

they're 18 to 1 against me. >> andrea: i asked her before going to break if you'd run for office again? >> after you said that, i said i need to get on that show. >> dana: we might have to medicate bill schults. he would paint from the beaut beauty. >> you are so good. you are. does your wife call you that? >> greg: guth. >> bob: they call me a lot of things. this young lady called me a doofus but nice enough to own up to it. once in a while i used words. we'll put it under the table. won't we?