you can see tare ek and our team. jenna: thanks for joining us, -frbg. jon: "america live" starts right now. megyn: fox news alert new reports of increased fears and growing violence for our troops as protest -d rage aeu kroz afghanistan. welcom protests rage in afghanistan. i'm megyn kelly. the dead include two u.s. service members, killed we're told by a member of the afghan army. we, american soldiers, train the afghan army. angry afghans throwing rocks, setting fires and chanting, death to america. here is a look at how the situation has grown so deadly over the past week. it started on sunday when korans and other religious texts were set to a garbage burn pick.

two days later afghan workers at the u.s. base noticed the korans and tried to salvage them. those base employees were among the first to stage protests claiming the burning was meant to offend them. on wednesday nato officials told fox news that the books were removed from a library because detainees had written in them and were passing extremists messages to fellow detainees. that is still being investigated by officials in afghanistan. defacing holy text is also considered blas blast ma blasphemy. president obama sent a serpb a personal apology for the burns it has done little to stop outrage and now there is a push back on american leaders for issuing an apology at all.

conor powell is streaming live for us. >> reporter: it was the fourth day of proeu tests an protests, the afghan authorities have raised the death count to 12 people who have died across afghanistan, more than 50 or so wounded in different protests and riots across the country. seven of them happened in herat, as part of a group of protestors who tried to storm a u.s. consulate in one of the larger cities here. the protests have grown every single day each week. they have got even worse and worse and it is beginning to have a real impact on the relationship between the united states and the afghan community here. today general john allen, the top commander here in afghanistan went to the outpost where those two u.s. soldiers were killed yesterday. he spoke to american soldiers and told them, now is not the time for revenge. it tells you about the state of mind of those troops right now, that the top commander has to sort of walk them off the ledge and to remove those feelings of revenge. there is a lot of disinstruments

andistrust and anger and unhappiness between the u.s. and afghan authorities right now. president obama has apologized, general allen has apologized. that feeling of anger among common afghans, the police forces, particularly the police and soldiers that are working with u.s. forces it has not gone away and it is only getting worse here. the big question is how long will this last over the next few days? we are watching to see if there will be more protests. right now it's the hope that today was the peak of the protests. nobody knows yet how long this will go on, megyn. megyn: thank you. some are questions president obama's response to this situation. republican presidential candidate newt gingrich saying this. >> the president apologized for the burning. but i haven't seen the president demand that the government of afghanistan apologize for the killing of two young americans. [applause]

megyn: he went on from there. does the former speaker of the house have a point? or did the president do the right thing by apologizing? our panel debates it fair & balanced coming up. four days before a crucial contest, mitt romney is turning up the pressure on sant rick santorum. voters in arizona and michigan go to the polls for big and important primaries this tuesday, and mitt romney is working very hard to keep this week's debate fresh on their minds. >> what happened was we saw in this case senator santorum explain most of the night why he did or voted for things he disagreed with. and he talked about this as being taking one for the team. i wonder which team he was taking it for? [applause] >> my team is the american people, not the insiders in washington. and i'll fight for the people of america, not special interests. [applause] megyn: romney of court referencing rick santorum's explanation the other night as for why he voted for president

bush's no child left behind plan. here is what senator santorum actually said that night. >> i have to admit i voted for that. it was against the principles i believed in, but you know, when you're part of the team sometimes you take one for the team for the leader and i made a mistake. politics is a team sport, folks, and sometimes you have to rally together and do something, and in this case, you know, i thought testing and finding out hoho bad the problem was wasn'ta bad idea. megyn: you heard romney's reaction to the team sport comment. rush limbaugh said he kreupbld when he hearcringed when he heard it. what will rick santorum say about this. i'll ask him live in our 2:00 hour. home you stay for that. new developments on gas prices. overnight gas skwrup jumping. as you feel the squeeze, so too does the white house.

more lawmakers are urging the president to tap into the strategic petroleum reserves to help and that tank is getting pretty big. trace gallagher live in l.a. with more. >> reporter: that strategic petroleum reserve is 696 million barrels of oil about a 35-day supply here in the u.s. it's meant to be used during national crisis, like hurricane katrina. president obama tapped it last year for 30 million barrels to help ease prices. the same three members of congress who asked the president to release it last year are now asking him to release more this year, we are talking abouted marquis of massachusetts, peter welch of vermont, and rosa deloro of connecticut. this has nothing to do with supply, it's about easing fears. in a letter they say, as we approach the summer driving season we must carefully consider all immediate options in order to prevent a runaway increase in prices. well, republicans say this is trying to mix oil and politics,

and that the reserve is only meant to ease a tight supply. lisa pheur could you skmerck lisa murcowski says ... we all talk about the national average being $3.65 an hour. five of the highest states are california, hawaii, alaska, new york, and connecticut, above or close to $4 a gallon. the average price in those 20 states is $3.79 a gallon. but keep in mind, 54% of the population lives in those 20 states, so, megyn, when we say the national average is 3.65, half of us are actually paying $3.79 or higher. good context for the whole

thing. megyn: if week we are talking about 4 publication, 5 bucks a gallon in places. unbelievable. thank you. weather alert for you now, tornado watches issued at this moment stretching from parts of the southeast up into the mid-atlantic as a major winter blast is on the way. meteorologist janice dean has more live from the fox weather center. >> reporter: it's affecting much of the east coast, megyn, and winds in excess of 50 miles per hour, as we go through the overnight for a lot of the big cities. right now the imminent concern is tornadoes. three tornado watches the most recent of which is posted for florida, georgia, alabama, up towards south carolina and our most recent tornado warning right here for southwestern georgia, camilla, south of albany, watching this very careful flow we are seeing strong rotation on doppler radar. we will continue to monitor throughout the afternoon and evening hours. peel really need to be paying attention as it can be really deadly in the overnight hours

when people aren't paying as close attention. looking at our severe weather threat there is the yellow the slight risk but really honing in on the mid-atlantic region where we think we will have a concentrated severe threat as we go through the overnight. wind gusts in excess of 50, 60, 70 miles per hour from much much the big cities from new york city up towards boston into the overnight and into saturday. so that is going to be a very dangerous situation as well. we'll bring you the very latest from the fox weather center back to you. megyn: thank you. massive sovereign debt in greece leading to riots in the straoeuts there. now a tupb streets there. a stunning new report saying the united states is even in worse saeup whe shape when it comes to depth than greece. what does it say about our future? and a suv built to protect our

officials. but this agent died in a shootout in mexico. what might have been the flaw. the empire state building in new york, lighted up free for poppye. but they will not do it for timothy dolan, a man who may one day become pope, and they refused to do it for mother teresa. if history is any indication you don't want to miss this segment. >> she has won 124 awards, the nobel peace prize. we'll go to the congress, contact the people in india, we'll contact catholics worldwide. i have the money, the determination. i'll takeout ads. they don't know what they are dealing with, these little preppy boys. diarrhea, gas or bloating? get ahead of it! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day

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well what just might be one of the most troubling numbers regarding the country's economic situation. startling new numbers from the ranking member of the senate budget committee. a new analysis by alabama republican senator jeff sessions claims that to pay down the massive u.s. debt every american would have to kick in nearly $45,000. that is more than any european nation, including greece. it's per capita, or per person debt burden is just under $39,000 in greece that is. here we are 45,000. joining me now matt mccall the president of penn financial group. this is something put out boy a republican that has an issue with president obama and his would be budget. is it believable? >> the numbers that sessions took came from the imf. he went a step further and basically looked at how many people live in our country and how many people live in greece and they break it down her

person how much debt we're carrying in the country. from the numbers i crunched from this morning to now it looks good to me. megyn: if we wanted to eliminate the $15 trillion debt each one of us would have to fork over 45,000 he says or if barack obama's budget became law it would be $75,000 a person by 2020. >> you take the $15 trillion that we oh, if we're the country, consider we are the country, we each owe $45,000. we each write a check to the u.s. government for $45,000, then we don't have the problem any more. megyn: in that per capita debt burden is even worse than what the greek folks are operating under, where it's less, it's 39 grand, then why are we seeing riots in greece and not so much in the united states? what different yate differentiates the two. >> in greece they went to austerity. they said we're going to cut entitlement programs, whether it

be their retirement-type plan. here in the united states we say it's not that bad yet and keep printing money. megyn: they do not have that a abouthat ability. >> they do not. they are part of the eu. the problem that i see going forward is, we can get out of this by printing money, yes, but the issue is, the value of our dollar, every time we are printing one more dollar is worth less. suddenly our u.s. dollar will be worth nothing if we keep doing it. then it leads to hyperinflation. basically you'll be paying $8 for aloof of bread. the ramifications longer term are drastic. megyn: they talk about how in gross this crisis snuck up on many of the people there, that they didn't realize how bad a shape they were in, how dependent they were on borrowing, and they were not really paying a lot of attention to their debt number. is that happening right now in this country for many? >> i think we talk about it more

and more, it's coming to light that x do owe we do owe a lot of money as a country. it's apples and oranges, greece is a little bit different than the united states. this is the most troubling number i've ever seen. the fact that we can break this down and realize that every person in this country would have to write a check for $45,000 to get -- megyn: aoubg talking babie you're talking babies as well. >> every person in this country, that is mind blowing for me. megyn: how are we going to get out of this debt? how have we done it historically and how are we likely to do it over the next eight years let's say. >> it's going to be very difficult. if we get out of it in the next eight years. megyn: pay some of it down. we are not going to get out of it. isn't it going to require massive, massive spending cuts and maybe arguably tax hikes? >> yeah, there are two ways to quit out of debt.

we have to bring in more money at same time, stop spending money. that is going to lead to austerity here in the united states. it's going to lead to entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid, has to be cut, social security has to be cut. we have to realize we can't rely on the government any more. we can increase revenues through raising taxes, unfortunately or get more tax revenue by having our economy get boosted. our economy is growing at 1%. megyn: that is one of the major problems we have right now. one of the things that differentiates us from greece is our productivity. we are may more productive than we are. we have been raised to be workers most of us and that's part of the american ideal. if you don't have a job available to you, if you've been looking and looking and looking and can't find one there is only so much -- so productive you can be. >> we have to create goods or services. we need to do something to get the economy going. that leads to more jobs and people spending more money and

more tax revenues coming into the u.s. government. the problem is it's a vicious vike he will righ cycle right now. if we want to bring more money in reraise taxes. it could slow the economy down and have the exact opposite economic. we have to cut number one. megyn: does this become demoralizing. when i was in law school i had no money, i had tons of debt, bill collectors were calling. you look at the mountain of debt, you say i can't even make a dent in it. i'm not going to answer the phone calls from the bill collectors, i realize i can't pay the bills and i'm not going to take the phone calls until i can. are we getting to that point as a nation. >> i think we have. they are going to keep printing this money and that's how they will pay their bills. megyn: i could have used one. >> i tried to make one. megyn: i ultimately graduated from law school, got a job and started paying down the debt and things turned around. let's hope america gets the same kind of job and opportunity. thank you, matt. when the rescuers, become the

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megyn: some incredible video now showing a rescue helicopter breaking apart as it lands. watch this.

can you imagine? it happened in brazil. the chopper begins to shake and spin and then crumbles into pieces. the door and tail section break off as the row tar blades continue to spin. the crew members not daring to leave, staying inside the whole time. fortunately there were minor injuries but no one was seriously hurt. they say there are forces on the ground that sometimes do that. new information today on the tragic security flaw that may have led to a ice agent's death. he was driving along a notorious stretch of highway in mexico when he was surrounded by dug cartel gunman. he was riding in a $160,000 suv built to withstand bullets, grenades, even land miness. so what went wrong? we are learning more now. trace gallagher has the details

from l.a., trace. >> reporter: he was driving along with his partner on that dangerous stretch of road in mexico. they realized they were being followed, right? the next thing they knew there were two other cars, suvs that had boxed them up. what jaime did is he pulled over to the side of the road, he stopped, and those bandits then surrounded them, and he put the car in park, and what happened next, the automatic door locks opened. and that's when the bandits got out, were able to open the passenger door and roll the window down late bit. little about i bit. the window was down enough to put an ak-47 inside and spray bullets that killed jaime zapata. the other agent was able to get the window rolled you will. the drug bandits rolled back and

fired 45 more rounds into an suv. not a single round peered th pierced the verdict. they said zapata should never have stopped the car, but the door lock system should have been disengaged which is easy to do. and all of the vehicles in foreign lands have them diseve disengaged. one of the guns found on the ground was in texas. authorities are investigating whether the gun had been allowed to walk across the border. the locks have been fixed, the gun is in question. megyn: unbelievable. newt gingrich calling out president obama for his handling of the riots in afghanistan in the wake of these koran burnings, riots who have lead to the murder of at least two u.s.

soldiers. >> my hunch is that the person who killed them was armed with american money, trained with american money and paid with american money and there is something profoundly wrong when the commander-in-chief refuses to protect the lives and crawls to apologize to a country whose religious fanatics. megyn: so does gingrich have a point? is he right about the way that the president is handling this crisis we've seen this wea week in afghanistan? could his stand help him at the polls? a fair & balanced debate next. late breaking details just out of of the u.n.'s nuclear watch tkaubg group. remembe watchdog group. they've got refused access to some sites this week. they've written up their report and we have them. the new york giants, they are good enough, but mother teresa and cardinal timothy dolan are not. outraged after the empire state

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megyn: serious new concerns about iran's nuclear program and the possibility it could be closer to building a bomb. the u.n.'s nuclear watchdog releasing a report saying iran is ramping up its nuclear

enrichment. they also found a significant amount of uranium is mission. some diplomats say the quantity is enough to test arm a nuclear missile. back to our top story. the death toll is rising in fan * in connection with the reportedly accidental burning of the koran at a u.s. air base. angry demonstrators taking to the streets. two u.s. service members were killed in the riots reportedly by an afghan army member. president obama has issued a personal apology to the afghan president but it has done little to stop the violence. >> president obama surrendered twice today and i think it deserves to be brought to the

one trips attention. the president apologized for the burning. but i haven't seen the president demand that government 6 afghanistan a -- the government of afghanistan apologize for the killing of two young americans. [applause] furthermore, my hunch is since the person who killed them is an afghan soldier that that soldier was being paid with american money, armed with american money, trained with american money, and there is something profoundly wrong when the commander-in-chief refuses to defend the integrity and the lives of those who serve under him and instead abjectly crawls to apologize to a country whose religious fanatics -- there is simply nothing radical islamists can do to get barack obama's attention in a negative way and

he's consistently apologizing to people who do not deserve the apology of the united states, period. if karzai, the president of afghanistan doesn't feel like apologizing we should say good-bye, good luck. we don't need to be here rising our lives and wasting our money on someone who doesn't care. megyn: joining me now is alan colmes. so a fired up newt gingrich tapping into an issue that very sensitive. we have seen two american soldiers killed this week according to the reports because of this. the irony, alan, you can see it, they train it afghan army and they turn around and start shooting us, not because we kill civilians, but because of the burning of a holy book that they consider more sacred than anything.

were we right to apologize? >> absolutely. newt gingrich all of a sudden no stranger to hyperbole mass become a dove. saying if karzai is not going to apologize we should get out. karzai has been an ally. he's not an enemy. the notion that we should not say the right thing to protect ourselves, his apology to tamp down the outrage is to help preserve the well being our soldiers in battle. it may not have worked, but that certainly is the goal so you don't further outrage people. we are in a foreign country on their soil burning their holy book. he did exactly the right thing. megyn: gingrich seems to be suggesting obama is an

apologist. >> this is gingrich at his best. this is the tone the american people expect from a gop candidate who will challenge his apologist president. is there not one single apology yet that any of us have heard, alan included, for the deaths of anyone killed by religious fanatics over the burning of a koran. that is the big problem. the challenge will be how do we wrap our brain around the fact that we are fighting an enemy that thinks violence and bloodshed and murder is the justifiable outcome of the burning of a holy book. no one is defending the burning of the koran. but for president obama to go crawling to karzai and say we are sorry this koran was burned, where is the apology from the afghan president? where is any apology for the death of these americans? it's outrageous. this is where gingrich shines.

from a political standpoint it's good timing on the verge of the tuesday primaries. the american people stand up and cheer for something like this. >> maybe the right wing does. we present ourselves as a moral leader in the world. we present ourselves as a beacon of integrity and beacon of light. we go by our standard. we don't go into a country and burn the holy book by accident or not of another culture. when we are right we acknowledge it it am not dependent upon whether somebody on the other side a does the same thing. megyn: was it too soon? they say there were reports that the prisoners that we detained were passing messages to one another in these korans. and that's desecration of the koran is offensive to islam, but also there is a question about whether we were doing this as part of a security measure -- let me ask you about that, alan.

>> the me tricks or optics hereby and the imagined optics if you can see the pictures. where there is a burning of a holy book, regardless of what might have led up to it and the net result is that's what happened. we should not be in the business of burning somebody else's holy book, any more than someone should be burning a bible. if that happens, whether intentional or not. we should acknowledge it, express regret. that is exactly the right thing to do, with the motivation of hoping that leads to a calmer atmosphere so our soldiers in harm's way are safer as a result. megyn: i want to tell our viewers we lost mike gallagher's feed because he unless greeneville, south carolina where there is a tornado watch in effect. we hope he's okay. we are trying to reestablish a connection with him. alan, given how seriously they

take it burning of the koran over there, we understand that. it's not that we killed a civilian, not that our troops try to kill civilians but in war that can happen. but they take the burning of the koran -- we don't see them do this in the wake of that. but the koran is a different story, nonetheless, it doesn't seem like the apologies have tamped it down. >> maybe things would have been worse if there had not been an apology, we'll lever know. but as you point out, megyn, the outrage about this kind of an act supercedes so many other things that happened in the course of a war whether rightly or wrongly. megyn: this doesn't seem like there is any institutional knowledge of all the good our troops have done. they forget all of that because of the actions of a couple. it does raise a question about whether we are in a position to

be apologizes or whether that was a strategic move which our president to protect or soldier's lives. >> it's important to acknowledge this was not the right thing to have done. megyn: our apologies to make. hopefully he's okay and the folks in greeneville are okay. but i want to tell you general jack keen will join us on his take on whether the president did the right thing and how we are going to tamp this down. there is still a real question about whether this was done to stop the passage of messages between detainees. so more on that in just a bit. the empire state building, all aglow, red and white to honor japan's women's soccer team after they beat the americans in the world cup. the japanese who beat the

americans, and now they have refused to honor new york city's newest cardinal. timothy dolan. a man they are saying could be pope some day. it's a huge huge deal for him and for kat application this country. the catholic league is not happy. cameras rolling as a train crushes a car stuck on the tracks. you will not believe what happened seconds before the collision. we'll show that to you right after the break. with a crucial primarily coming up on tuesday the gloves are off. rick santorum accusing mitt romney of lying in this week's debate. but did he? >> congress has a role of allocating resources when they think the administration hates wrong. i defended that at the time. i'm proud i defended it at the time because i think they did make mistakes. i did think there was abuse and

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megyn: new controversy after the owner of the empire state building refuses to honor the newest cardinal timothy dolan. the lights often change for special events and not so special. the super bowl winning the new york giants and they glowed gold sport after school alliance. they turned red for the communists in china. but the owner said no to honoring cardinal dolan. here they go again.

no to mother teresa, no to cardinal dolan and yes to japan after they beat us in soccer? >> you do have public responsibilities. to dis a large section of the population which is catholics, it's bad public relations. maybe he wasn't a mass murderer, maybe then he could have been honored like they did mao. megyn: anthony malkin, do we know anything about him? >> a harvard law graduate born with a silver spoon in his mouth. when he tried to stiff us with mother teresa what bothered me more than just stiffing us was he lied. when i filled out the

application in february 2010, there was no rule saying we don't light up for religious figures. they added that after they denied me. they changed the wording of it and invoked this expostfacto to say you can't have lighting up for mother teresa. they even got their bully lawyers on park avenue to try to intimidate me. there is a mess there as far as i'm concerned. i brought 3,500 people to protest in the streets in 2010. megyn: they say we may turn it green and blue to honor the national eating disorders association week. we may turn a color to honor malaysia for competing in the olympics. we mahonor the rutgers football team for beating louisville. we'll turn it colors to honor gay marriage, but we do not turn

colors to honor a religious figure or to honor a request by a religious organization. >> they recognize dr. martin luther king and i would be the first one some i they should recognize him. he was a religious figure. he with us reverand martin luther king. now for three days, the st. patrick's day parade. three days before and one day after st. patrick's day they are going to light up the towers in green for st. patrick. megyn: for who patrick? >> saint patrick. i guess they think he was a closet secularist. you have got people handing out statements about what we can and not say about jeremy lin.

i agree with a lot of this stuff. but when it comes to catholics there is no sensitivity at all. when you put the whole package together, never mind what's going on in washington where our:president is trying to tell catholic institutions what doctoral prerogatives they can exercise and which ones they can't. it has an odor to it which has made a lot of catholics angry. megyn: the catholic church does a lot to help the poor and the downtrodden. they are saying he could wind up being pope which would be an amazing thing. after several battles went down to the wire. could see see another before election day? they tried to prevent it, they may have failed. >> * a third grader accused of shooting another girl at school.

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megyn: we have incredible video much a pretty common mistake that could cost you your life. you can see this driver spinning her wheels after a wrong turn onto the railroad tracks. if it had not been for the quick thinking of good samaritans it could have bench worse. >> reporter: these women didn't really know their way around the town. they thought they were turning right onto main street. you saw the car it was high

centered and the wheels were ocht ground and spinning. the passenger gets out of the car and starts push it. the train you can see -- you can't see it here, but this is being filmed by a surveillance camera across the street. two passersby * try to help. the passersby * come by, no luck. now i want you to watch because the driver is still in the car. watch the amount of time they are yelling as the her between the driver getting out of the car and the train hitting. she is out of the car. they pull her out. now watch what comes by. the train, boom, 3 seconds went time she got out of the car and the train hit. >> she didn't not was coming that fast. she thought i had time to get my

pocketbook, it would have been too late. >> reporter: take a look at damaged car. the damaged car was really bad. that surveillance camera that was taping this across the street. the owner of that store says he has video tapes of at least 10 different accidents of the trains hitting cars people people have made a wrong turn and apparently the signs are not clearly marked in that area, but they will be now. megyn: trace, thanks. coming up he's mad at all getout, he's live right here. rick santorum says the gloves are coming off. he joins us in 30 minutes with what he says were lies mitt romney told during this week's debate. the plot thickens in the death of a reality tv producer. now why drug charges are a possibility in the apparent poisoning of an amazing race employee and his

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megyn: fox news alert. an alarming new report on our nation's debt. it could top its limits by election day. last year's big fight over the debt ceiling brought this nation to the brink of default and resulted in the first ever credit rating downgrade by standard and poors. the politicians under estimate the rate at which they are burning through our cash. analysts predict our debt could reach $16.4 trillion by the november presidential election. that mean the president may have to come back to the taxpayer bank before voters go to the

polls. there is a reason, chris, that both the white house and the politicians on capitol hill try to postpone this until after the elections in november. it turns out they may have failed. >> they may have failed because the economy may be slower. if the economy is slower then tax receipts are down and the treasury doesn't have enough fresh money to compensate for borrowed money. if that's the case, this is going tone an absolute catastrophy. in terms of a political moment of crisis it would be a very big deal if this happens before election day. megyn: for both sides. we saw the republican numbers fall precipitously. and there was a question about whether they should have dug in as much as they did. so what is likely to happen? >> if the economy is so sluggish

that the president needs to come back for an increased credit limit, that probably means his election chances aren't so great. he may try to pick a fight with the republicans. saying if you don't give me this debt ceiling increase you are jeopardizing the american economy. by that is fraught with peril. the headlines are obama needs to borrow more money. all of these trillions of dollars later, the president wants more borrowing authorities. if he's ahead in the polls or doesn't want to take a risk. he can have the treasury hoard money. so the debt ceiling would fall after the election instead of before. megyn: it may just be smoke and mirrors. it's not like they are not going to know that we burned through

the cash or however you want to phrase it faster than we even predicted and we are now look at $16 trillion worth of debt and going back to the american taxpayer and asking for permission to let it go even higher. >> huge risk. but for the president, if he's hurting and needs a boost in his bid for a second term, a chance to try to vilify republicans and say, these people are trying to keep the country from succeeding, they are causing this crisis, they won't give me the borrowing authority i need, i think the president feels good about the way it went down in the fall that he was able to get this money in a way he could paint the republicans as obstructionists. remember this. this is important. washington can't run without smoke and mirrors. that's the cornerstone of this city. so we can't take those out of the discussion. megyn: sad by true, chris, thank you. as president obama faces increasing pressure to do something about rising gas

prices, he has been quick to point out the u.s. is producing more oil now than any time in the last eight years. but the president's critics are saying not so fast. >> well, as you say, the president and the white house have hardly been shy about claiming credit for oil production, but those in the industry say the truth is about the exact opposite of what the administration says. take this statement from the white house. >> oil and gas production in the united states has risen every year since president has been in office. oil production is now higher than it's been in 8 years. >> the administration argues nothing it could do now would help with prices over the short term because it takes years for such decisions to have any impact. exactly right say analysts which is why oil production is at an 8-year high, not because of the president but in spite of him. >> it's the direct result of

leases issues before this administration and the result of development on private and state lands. today on federal lands, the area where the president has control, production in the gulf of mexico is down 30%. lease sales in the rocky mountains on federal lands are down 70%. >> reporter: and he says the president has put 85% of the continental shelf off limits. overall the president is only making 3% of the areas under his control avail and for development. but on private lands oil production is booming. in north dakota. it's gone from producing a small a. oil to 450,000 barrels a day. so unemployment there is also falling, down to 3.3%. the lowest in the country. get this. the u.s. and canada have so much energy both oil and gas that combined with renewables the u.s. could produce all the

energy we need. listen. >> we could be energy self-sufficient right here in north america in 12 years. but that takes political courage, it takes political will, and the president could lead that effort if this policies were consistent with his messaging. megyn: jangle, thank you. megyn: the potential witness in the death of a tv producer may not be leaving uganda soon. first we were told this might be a murder. then we were told it might be an accidental overdose. was it a forced overdose. he died. and she is recovering. but she may have to stay in you

began today while the police determine if she broke that country's drug laws. trace gallagher has the latest. >> reporter: we know that they ingested a large a. cocaine. but what we don't know is why. they were both found on the balcony of hire luxury hotel in uganda. there were first reports they were attacked and forced to eat this large amount of cocaine. ugandan police say they were not attacked. there is no evidence of attack. no bruise on any of the bodies and they were not poisoned. but because a large amount of cocaine was found in jeff rice's stomach experts say it's unlikely that he snorted it. it's more likely he a terks the cocaine. why would he eat it? catherine fuller is the best chance of solving the mystery. she is now recovering. she is not talking to

authorities because she is unable to. but now they are saying she may not be able to go back to south africa because she tested positive for cocaine and therefore broke ugandan laws and when she gets out of the hospital may be placed tennessee custody. her father is trying to work it out so she can go back to south africa and get better treatment. abc nice reporting inside the hotel room they found heroin on top of the cocaine that was found in their stomachs. so the mystery thickens as to why all of this cocaine was in their system and it wasn't snorted, it wasn't taken apparently for recreational value. megyn: thank you, trace. rick santorum taking the gloves off reacting to some of mitt romney's attacks. he's not happy. he will join us live with what he says is an effort to set the record straight right here. plus a third grader dressed in

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megyn: new controversy in the wake of u.s. soldiers burning some copies of the koran. crowds in the streets chanting "death to america." this despite the apology of the u.s. president and other officials. nato admitted soldiers burned the books. they had been taken from a library at a detention facility reportedly after extremist messages were found written inside of some of the books. there was concern they were being used to pass messages back and forth between terrorists. that's the claim being investigated afghan president's hamid karzai releasing a letter, in that letter it says the error was inadvertent, we'll take appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence to include holding

those accountable responsible. general, i want to talk about the response to this. there is no question that burning the koran in afghanistan is a severe and very controversial thing. that's clear. but why did we apologize and were we right to do so? >> absolutely. we made a bone headed insensitive mistake dealing with this significant holy book representing one of the great religions of the word. all the holy books representing religions are very sensitive. but in the koran it's even more so for the muslim people. there is always going to be charged situation as a result of this. this -- there are stakeholders trying to undermine karzai's

government. there are stakeholders trying to undermine the united states of america. the president is trying to give karzai a tool to help him diffuse the situation. that's what the apology is all about. karzai goes before the parliament and asks the parliamentarians to help him with the situation and quotes from the letter the president's statement. he's using the president of the united states as leverage to accomplish what he's doing. karzai is not the strongest leader we have ever dealt with, quite the contrary. he's a her -- he's a mercurial figure and at times drives us nuts. megyn: there may be other forces at play and there is a question whether this is being used by some forces in afghanistan as prop began today, a reason to turn against americans and fuel

the tide of anti-american sentiment that's felt over there. >> that's absolutely going on it's an opportunity as others have arising in the past to undermine the united states and nato's effort and also help weaken the authority and effectiveness of the karzai government. that's part of what's taking place. i'm not suggesting there are not genuine muslims on the street who feel insulted by this act because in their mind shows a lack of respect for them. therefore, they are willing to get out in the street. i think there is a representation of that. but i think largely it's much more complicated than that. megyn: some americans say they have a problem with this, general. while they don't condone the burning of the koran, they see all we have done to help the afghan people. they see our troops sacrificing blood and treasure. we see some people burn the koran. there are reports that are not

confirmed one way or another. in response one of the afghan army members who we trained unleashes and kills two of our soldiers and we are apologizing to them? people are saying what is going on? what ishis for? >> i think they are separate events and we should trite that way. we have had over 70 americans killed as a result of afghan security people intentionally shooting at americans. and they are obviously taliban people who have infected the ranks of the security forces. that's an issue we are dealing with. but in america where we tolerate intentional abuse of our major symbols to include religious symbols, american patriotic symbols and write laws to permit the intentional abites may be hard for to us understand why there is such a reaction like this. this burning of the koran, for

example, is getting more reaction from the afghan people than when we kill unintentionally afghan civilians. you try to get your head around that and it's difficult to do so. but you have to put yourself in their shoes and what this symbol means to them. megyn: maybe this is a clueless question. you look at all the good we have done. all the help we have given the afghan people. you see the video our troops with their kids. does all of that mean nothing in the wake of an incident like this? do they have no concept of okay there was a bad incident involving a couple of guys, that doesn't warrants thousands take together street and chajts "death to america." it hasn't been totally confirmed that was somebody retaliating against our u.s. troops but the circumstances sitting was retaliation. is there no big picture concept over there? >> you mention, i have been in

afghanistan four times in the last 18 months. most of the time i spend on lower unit levels and villages. the relationships that we americans have, our troops, our civilians and contractors with the afghan people is remarkable. we respect their customs, respect their traditions, and as a result of that we have forged close relationships with them based on mutual respect. i have seen it time and time again in the meals we eat with them, how they re create with each other. that is the norm in afghanistan. this is by far the exception. we should not let it distort what the norm is. i get frustrated how much the media jumps on his incident and there is very little reporting of the fact that we have turned the war around in afghanistan. we are succeeding in stan there are south and southwest.

now we are starting to see it in the east. and there is not a lot of reporting about the most significant event that's taking place in afghanistan which is the turnaround of the war. megyn: . thank you so much for your expertise. we'll see you soon. the white house spent $800 billion on the stimulus program. where are the $800 billion worth of jobs? we'll have an eye-opening report next. 100 cops in riot gear responding to break up a brawl. wait until you hear what started it? rick santorum says the gloves are off and he wants to address some comments made by mitt romney at this week's debate. rick santorum will join us here in moments. [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of.

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megyn: the "wall street journal" report on stimulus spending. $10 billion spent on green jobs created just a fraction of the 100,000 jobs the companies say they created. >> reporter: this report about it journal is fascinating. they looked at section 1603. this is $10 binl that act to go to renewable farms. geothermal plants, wind farms. they looked at, were jobs created where this company said they created these jobs. the "wall street journal" found that did not happen. one thing that could be a law breaker. on federal applications companies said they created 100,000 direct jobs and the

journal foingtd was only a fraction of that. the white house said the $2.2 million jobs would be created. the journal said that is not hamming. one of the things these companies are doing is they are going in on federal applications and reports to our government saying, 100,000 jobs were created at this city. what the journal found is what's happening is they are estimating these jobs to be created whether it's job that restaurants, hotel, economic activity that you can't quantify at the end of the day. what is the number that we quantify when it comes to job creation? iting the jobs report. we are still about 8% unemployment. so basically what the government is going to have to do is go back and start to investigate these applications. did these solar wind companies lie to the u.s. government about job creation? the journal and these facts and

figures tell us they did. megyn: the gloves are off. former pennsylvania senator rick santorum is fired up, saying mitt romney told lies during this week's debate. he wants to set the record straight. plus a third grader accidentally shoots his classmate. she is in critical condition. he is going before a judge who will decide whether this child will face criminal charges. and wait until you hear who gave him the gun. in "kelly's court." view are i talked to his sisters. they said he said something about it. but my son is a 9-year-old little boy. we played football, we were active, we had barbeques. this out of character. i just need my son to come home. i apologize to everybody. >> i'm going to grant the request for bail. i'll rediets from $250,000.

megyn: next tuesday gop votessers head to the polls in arizona and michigan. this could be a game changer in the republican race for president, especially for rick santorum. if he can win mitt romney's home state of michigan some say he will have fired a devastating

shot. rick santorum is with us. there is lots we want to talk about. we all watched the big debate wednesday night and you have been taking heat ever since then for your so-called team player comment. you were getting hammered for voting for no child left behind. you said it was a big policy initiative, then you said this. >> i have to admit i voted for that it was against the principles i believed in, but, you know, when you are part of the team sometimes you take one for the team for the leader and i made a mistake. politics is a team sport, folks. sometimes you have got to rally together and do something. megyn: they booed you, then you doubled down and talked about politics being a team sport. do you regret that answer? >> who was the tame was

supporting any was supporting president bush in his attempt to get education testing in the schools to make sure we weren't having children as we have seen drop out and fail. i think that bill passed by 90 votes in the u.s. that and 400 in the house. and governor romney supported it. when i saw it implemented. i said it was a mistake. way too much money was spent. the principle that it said i was against was the principle of spending all this money on education at federal level. when it got out of control i said it was a mistake, it was something i shouldn't have done. governor romney continues to support no child left behind. he's attacking me on something he supports and supports today. i at least have the courage to admit when i make a mistake. he doubled down and said he's for more government control of education. i said i would repeal no child

left behind. he said he will not repeal no child left behind. he's attacking me -- megyn: there is no question mitt romney has supported no child left behind. but you are taking fire from him and his surrogates like chris christie who came out yesterday and said the after the compromise is understanding you can't get everything you want, but not compromise your principles. he says if you do that, people won't know who you are. >> if there is anybody who has compromise his principles. mitt romney is supporting a government-run healthcare system. mitt romney is someone who ran as a pro-choice gay rights supporting governor of massachusetts. mitt romney supported big tax increases in the state of massachusetts. huge spending increases. you look at my track record. i have a track record of being a

strong consistent conservative. for mitt romney to attack me as not being conservative is laughable. mitt romney when i was out there fighting no child left behind he was out there supporting and going planned parenthood fundraisers. i'm standing up here as the consistent conservative in this race who with president bush's biggest initiative of his campaign that the american public supported along with 90 other u.s. senators. it was a mistake, i admit it and unfortunately governor romney continues to support those big government programs. megyn: i wanted to talk about earmarks. he accused you of pushing for earmarks in a non-transparent way. and then you claimed that the earmarking process was open, and transparent, and then fact check.org, karl rove and others have said that's not true, and

they say, quote, santorum is the one misrepresenting the facts. the rules requiring public disclosure of earmarks did not go into effect until 2007, after you left the u.s. senate. did you misstate the facts? >> i was always transparent about the earmarks i requested. i would make them available for people to take a look at. go and look at debates on the senate floor. they were debated. john mccain would come out analyst all the different earmarks in the bill. megyn: it was up to the lawmaker it wasn't required. >> that correct. once the bill came to the floor the earmarks were in the bill. it was not something that was a hidden thing. every member knew when they were voting on the bill they were voting for these things. the idea that these were hidden and nobody knew what was in the bill is simply false.

everybody knew and i was particularly transparent and being public about what i did and what i requested. as i mentioned before, i have said that earmarks should be stopped and i would support stopping earmarks. and that's the issue in this race. meg around and romney going after each other is a theme. >> on the issue of earmarks he supported earmarks himself. it's the hypocrisy of attack me on things he himself supported. to say i'm not conservative because i was doing the same thing that he himself was doing. and that's the issue that i think people have sort of failed to see in that debate. i wasn't attacking governor romney for doing things i was doing at the same time. but he's attacking me on things he agree with me on which is the high of hypocrisy. he's going you have a on a land

specter. he finds himself back in the race. here is a snippet of a political ad romney is running against you. >> when rick santorum couldn't say no to liberal arlan specter, can you trust him to change washington? megyn: you said you had a deal with specter you would back him but only if he agreed to get behind president bush and his judicial nominees. then specter goes on another network, senator, and says this. >> that is flatly not true. we never had any such conversation. it would be improper to make a commitment on a vote before i knew who the nominee was and whether i thought the nominee was qualified. megyn: what's the story.

>> reporter: we just found a press article where he admitted he pledged to his colleagues that he would give the president's nominees a fair hearing and he would move their nominations out. he's entitled -- he's now a democrat and a big obama supporters. he can say whatever he wants and rewrite history. but the fact of the matter is he was publicly saying i'm going do this because his colleagues wanted that assurances. it's in the press that he did say that. number two, he did it. he stood by justice alito and justice roberts. and stood by them and helped shepherd them through the process. i'm sure now he feels bad about that. but you can't rewrite history. i knew i would take a lot of heat for doing what i did, but i wanted to assure we had a majority in the senate with we had a republican chairman of the

judiciary committee. we have done that and i'm proud of the fact that we have alito and roberts to hold down those positions on the court for the a long time to come. megyn: specter said he thought president bush's endorsement of him meant more than your endorsement. >> i'm sure it did. i want to give you this statement that the romney camp put out to all the media knowing you were going to be speaking today. they say rick santorum is a washington insider who is lashing out at mitt romney because he had a terrible debate perform answer. >> there was a story this past week in one of the papers that mitt romney has contributions from 300 lobbyists, many of them

are key advisers in his campaign. they are all lobbyists, washington insiders. i don't have anybody. he has all of these people who want to keep the status quo. none of them are out there supporting me. i don't want their support. i'm running for the american people. mitt, look at his tax plan it many timid. we have a dramatic damage in the tax code. we'll upset the special interests. we are the guys making and calling for the big changes. mitt romney is for an outsider he's got every insider in the country running his campaign who is trying to protect the special interests in this country. and we are out there, we have -- as you know, no advisors, no washington people involved in working in our campaign. we have folks from across this country in the states who are volunteers who are making a difference. and trying to overthrow the establishment big government

republicans that mitt romney represented when he was a governor. and he certainly continues to represent those values in this race. as far as my endorsement, you know what? fool me once, shame own, fool me twice, shame on me. i supported mitt romney with it was down to romney and mccain. i knew john mccain. i knew what kind of conservative he would be. so i landed with romney. he proved me wrong. he went out after the campaign was over and endorsed the wall street bailout. he was for big program and he defended romney care and i wasn't going to be a part of someone who was going to run a campaign where we didn't have a clear contrast between himself and president obama. that's what we need to win this election. megyn: you are still the front runner nationally according to the real clear politics average of all polls. last miewns came out with polls in michigan and arizona.

he shows the race tightening in michigan * you were ahead by four points now you are behind by 6 points. so it's been a 10-point sphwhing the wrong direction this week in michigan. what do you think accounts for that and what is going to happen tuesday? >> we feel good. we feel comfortable that we'll do well in michigan, and we'll prosecutorly exceed expectations in arizona. those are two tough states for us. we are going to be outspent and we are. romney's super pack is outspending us 3-1. it's very tough. it's his home state. we understand that was not going to be an easy place for us to be successful as far as winning the race. we just thought the key for us was to finish well and do well there. i think we will do well there.

i feel confident our message is resonating. the fact that we are in the race at all in his home state and being badly outspent the past two weeks, i think we are doing fine. megyn: they are telling me we have 60 seconds to a hard break. do you believer romney and paul have a deal not go after each other but to go after you and newt. >> i don't know. why is he running ads in michigan when's not campaigning there and the ads are negative against me. you explain that one. thank you very much, megyn, it's great to be with you. megyn: it seems like yesterday you were on doing political commentary, now look at you. front return and number one. >> we are working hard. trying to work hard for the people in america and we'll keep eight. megyn: see you soon. coming up next in "kelly's court." a little girl in critical condition after she is

accidentally shot by her third grade classmate. the little boy pleading with the judge saying he made a mistake. did he really know what he did was wrong?

megyn: "kelly's court" is back in session. on the docket, a-year-old boy who is facing criminal charges. a washington state judge is decide whether he will face charged for accidentally shooting a classmate. he brought a gun to school and it accidentally discharged when he slammed his backpack down on a desk. did this boy know what he was doing was wrong and who if anyone should be held responsible. there is no question this is tragic. and there is a question, however, about whether this child should be facing criminal charges. here is what i want to know. where did he get a loaded gun to

bring with him to school? >> that it. what we are hearing it came from the mother's home. unfortunately washington state does not have firearms child access preventative laws which means the parent cannot be held responsible criminally for leaving a loaded firearm -- megyn: tell us about the mother, she is charming. >> when this little boy was 2 1/2 she was caught with drugs and syringes in her purse. he was living with him mom at the time. when he was 3 1/2 his mom was arrested for selling drugs. this is the life this poor little boy has led. now it's where he's faced with these charges. i have to say the prosecutor, as heart breaker as this story is, we have to as law enforcement enforce the laws. washington state a-year-old is

chargeable in -- a 9-year-old is chargeable in juvenile court. if he didn't know what he did was wrong, the case will be done right there. if not you can get placement that takes this child out of harm's way. he's on a road to disaster at no fault of his own at this point. megyn: the report was he told a classmate he was going to bring his dad's gun to school and run away. he had been put in the custody of his grand mother and she died. now an uncle was watching him. this kid should go to jail until he turns 18? >> this is so sad. there will be a capacity hearing in washington to determine whether this 9-year-old really understands that we did was wrong. when we look at the fact, the fact that he put it in his backpack because he was going to run away. he slammed it and it accidentally discharged.

this kid doesn't know much more than how to catch frogs and play kick ball. the parents on the other hand should do some time. they are the reason this happened. megyn: i'm surprised it has gone this far. are you surprised it's gone this far? could they be using this as an excuse to get the kid out of the uncle's custody? >> the law is on the books. now they have discretion, prosecutors decide to enforce laws. hopefully they tights help this little boy. i can't believe anybody wants to see him hurt more than the damage the parents have already done to him. megyn: everybody's heart goes out to the little girl and her family, but you can't look at that in deciding whether to charge a 9-year-old with a crime that requires intent. anna says there are no laws in washington state that speak to

the parents' responsibility when it comes to the guns. but that may not be the end of the story when it comes to charging the people who let the gun get in his hands.

megyn: just to clear up. the boy has been charged with bringing a dangerous weapon to school, third degree assault and unlawful possession of a gun. couldn't you go after these parents for reckless endangerment? >> i'm sure that will happen. get them for reckless endangerment. endangering the welfare of a child. what is more reckless and what is putting a child more in harm's way than leaving a loaded

firearm in a place where he or she could get to it. i'm quite sure it's certainly hopeful when they can narrow down with happened, when they put the caregiver responsible. megyn: the gun lobby doesn't want to see this kind of thing happen. they want people who are responsible to have guns in their homes and keep them away from children. if this case goes forward. i said he might go to jail nell was 18. i think he's facing far less time than that. how much time would he be facing? >> he would get up to 30 days in jail, being a juvenile detention facility and up to a year and probation and he would have to do community service. he's 9. i don't know what kind of community service it would be appropriate for him to do. but that's the max he would face. megyn: they can't even

understand if he knows what's going on. the judge asked, do you read at grade level? an looked at his dad and his lawyer and uncle and didn't understand. they had to rephrase and he said i have a little trouble reading. his dad hand him a tissue. >> what is the world coming to. you tell me. megyn: if this kid goes to jeffy -- goes to juvie for 30 days. do it do him any good? >> that's not what the criminal justice system is in place for. we have to go forward with the laws, but i'm sure they will try to help this little boy. the children in juvie hall are not kids you want a 9-year-old little boy to be around. hopefully the case end quickly and they get him out of harm's way. megyn: and they revisit his custodial arrangement. ♪ [ doug ] i been lobstering about all my life.

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