>> rick: hello and welcome to a brand new hour, inside america's news headquarter, i'm rick folbaum. >> arthel: i'm arthel neville, ends of an era, what is happening at the compound where usama bin laden came to justice and was killed by u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s. >> rick: wild and dangerous weather and the danger not over yet. we'll have a live update, from

the fox extreme weather center. >> arthel: the last weekend of campaigning before the next big test, in the race for the republican presidential nomination. but, could someone spoil the party for these four candidates? >> rick: we begin with a "fox news alert." from afghanistan. a gunman killed two high ranking american officers inside a heavily guarded building in the heart of the capital city today. nato responding right away, pulling out the staff from government ministry offices as the country erupts in a 5th day of violence, and plunging deeper into crisis, the violence following the american military burning of korans at a nato base, connor powell is streaming live from kabul, afghanistan with the latest. >> reporter: rick, this crisis has rapidly become one of the biggest challenges for u.s. forces in afghanistan during this more than ten-year war, today two american soldiers, a colonel and major, were shot and

killed, while helping and advising the ministry of interior. this is generally a safe place, downtown kabul, very well guarded and accord to u.s. military officials an afghan gunman shot and killed the major and colonel, while advising afghan police officers in downtown kabul, the gunman is still on the loose, military says there is a manhunt on the lookout for him but he's still apparently missing. now, the exact reason for the shooting is unclear, but, most u.s. officials and afghan officials believe this is connected to the burning of korans by u.s. troops. we have seen weeks of protests, days of protests, here, all week, they have become large and violent, and have spread across the country. we saw again today, three afghans were killed in kunitz province after they -- kunduz provinces after trying to overrun a u.n. facility in kunduz and we are seeing it across the country and have seen large protests, trying to attack

embassy, consulate and u.s. bases in eastern afghanistan. this is a situation, that is getting worse by the day. now, to put it into perspective how bad the crisis has become, general john allen removed all u.s. and western advisors, from the ministries here in kabul, out of fear for their safety. the entire mission here in afghanistan, depends on training afghans. and teaching them skills of security and ultimately handing over responsibility, security responsibility to those afghans. if u.s. and western trainers are in there training them, that entire strategy and mission here in afghanistan grinds to a halt. right now, the level of distrust and anger between u.s. and afghan forces is at an all-time high and, right now, there is very unclear -- as to where the mission is heading, rick. >> rick: connor powell is streaming live for us from kabul, afghanistan. connor, thanks so much. >> arthel: a location that will certainly go down in u.s. armed forces history. and, today, it is being

demolish. the pakistani compound where usama bin laden was killed by navy s.e.a.l.s, back in may, now coming down, piece by piece. demolition started today, in the northwest city ofand, officials would not give a reason for the demolition, which was not announced ahead of time. >> rick: in the war on u.s. gas prices critic say the president is not being proactive enough, according to the aaa, the national average for a gallon of gas is $3.67 a gallon. prices are going up, the president says, there is no quick fix. but, according to one gop senator there are a few quick fixes, none the president is willing to use, doug mcelway is live in washington with more. >> reporter: that's right, rick, the rising price of gasoline is proving to be a lot of fodder for an election year political battle. here's what the president said

in his weekly address today. >> president barack obama: now, some politicians, always see that as a political opportunity. and since it is an election year, they are dusting off their same three-point plan for $2 gas. i'll save you the suspense, step one, according to them, is drill. step two is drill. and step three is to keep drilling. we hear the same thing, every year. >> reporter: the administration is pushing its all of the above approach to energy policy, that includes conservation, alternative and renewable energies, nuclear and more drilling, and many republicans and oil industry executives dispute the administration line that domestic production is up in the last three years. >> that production is a direct result of leases issued before this administration. and as a result of the ge on private and state land. today, on federal lands, the area where the president has control, production in the gulf of mexico has down, 30%.

lease sales in the rocky mountains on federal lands are down, 70%. >> reporter: republicans bolstering their case with the words of steven chu before he became the secretary of energy. >> i quote, somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in europe. well, this administration is certainly trying their best to do just that. >> reporter: the oil industry believes that new drilling technologies put to use domestically would make the u.s. independent of middle east oil in only 12 years. >> we have more combined oil and natural gas than iran, iraq, libya and kuwait combined. >> reporter: still there is some agreement that the fundamental cause of rising prices is uncertainty in the middle east, saudi arabia attempting to reduce that uncertainty by increasing production, one of the few middle east countries with reserves and capability to do so. rick? >> rick: thank you, doug, doug mcelway in washington.

>> arthel: no one will argue stakes are high for all four candidates headed into tuesday's primaries. especially mitt romney, who is in a tough fight with rick santorum for his home state. michigan. this is a live look now at mt. pleasant, michigan where ron paul is addressing his supporters. someone is up there now. anyway, he's not giving up, congressman paul, the great lakes state. despite trailing in the polls. i'm not sure who that is, we'll move on, steve brown is there live at troy, michigan. steve, i think you have a better vantage point, not sure who is up there, you are outside. let's go to the question, ron paul. of course, he has a following everywhere he goes. i ask you, is it strong enough to make an impression on michigan, come tuesday. >> reporter: the congressman's actions might suggest he

believes his better bets are in other places and spent a lot of time in washington state this week, campaigning there, that is super tuesday a week from tuesday contest. so, it may be difficult for him, based on polling numbers, to even pick up delegates in the state. keep in mind they are handed out two per congressional district which means you have to win a congressional district, again polling numbers suggest he's not all that strong here and different story for mitt romney, the native son in this particular race, born and raised here, son of a governor from here, son of a man who ran an auto company here, but he's in a neck and neck fight with rick santorum. but, mitt romney has a base of support, suburban detroit area, basically where we are, suburban where he should be able to pick up delegates and, certainly, votes. mitt romney is going to be spending tomorrow, however, in florida. at the daytona 500, a race which a lot of folks in michigan will be watching. the auto companies here state side are going to be represented in that particular race.

and there will be one campaign representative in that race, car number 26, whose sponsor is none other than rick santorum. the sponsor of tony rain's number 26 car and will be starting fairly back in the field. 42 out of 43 vehicles. but, santorum has a car in that race. arthel. >> arthel: the arizona primary doesn't seem competitive but now the governor, jan brewer, is weighing in, right? >> reporter: she's let it be known and confirmed tomorrow she'll announce her pick for the arizona primary coming up on tuesday. as you noted it's not seen as much of a race and the last several polls, mitt romney had double-digit leads in that state. but, governor brewer is expected to weigh in and work on behalf of a campaign. so, that mean a couple of delegates out of the state of arizona, for whoever it is she backs, we don't have a clue who

that might be, right now. >> arthel: we'll be waiting to find out, steve brown live in troy, michigan and i want to remind everybody we'll have complete coverage of the arizona and michigan primaries beginning at 6:00 p.m. eastern on tuesday. plus, next saturday, it is huckabee forum number 3. the candidates will discuss the crucial issue of jobs ahead of the super tuesday vote. that, again, is next saturday at 8:00 p.m., eastern, only, right here, on fox news. >> rick: in syria, now, the red cross failing to gain access to the embattled city of homs, trying to evacuate wounded civilians and there are a lot of them and yesterday the red cross managed to bring out 27 people from thed activists say 77 people have been killed across the country today alone and secretary of state hillary clinton with strong words for the syrian president, assad: >> we must stand against those leaders whoever they are and

wherever they are, who used violence instead of negotiations. and, i am convinced that assad's days are numbered. i just regret, deeply, that there will be more killing before he finally goes. >> rick: secretary clinton was speaking at a conference in tunisia, trying to end the violence in syria. >> arthel: the u.s. navy is boosting its defense in the persian gulf, reportedly undertaking land and sea preparations, ahead of growing threats out of iran. the u.s. stepping up its presence in the region. hoping to stop any attempt to close the strait of hormuz, the strategic gateway for 1/5 of the world's oil supply. peter doocy has more from washington. >> reporter: the u.s. navy is adding guns to destroyers and ships to counter any iranian fast boats or cruise missiles that might be used to close the strait of hormuz, defense sources told jennifer griffin

today, and sources say the pentagon asked congress to reallocate $100 million of the defense funds to make sure there aren't any gaps in our military's capabilities in the persian gulf. the news comes just about two weeks off the pentagon asked for 85 million more dollars for bunker-buster bomb upgrades, and, just within day after the international atomic energy agency said it has serious concerns about iran's nuclear program. near the end of the 11-page report it says that the agency continues to have serious concerns regarding possible military dimensions to iran's nuclear program. check this out: uranium needs to be enriched at a 90% level to be used in nuclear weapons. 20%, is all that iran has produced, so far, but, friday's iaea report notes that since november, iran's 20% production has tripled and that is the level that once reached makes it easier to enrich above 90%, but remember as this is going on our director of national intelligence said, just last

month, iran hasn't decided to build a nuclear weapon yet. >> we don't believe they've actually made the decision to go ahead with a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: a state department spokesman said yesterday they're concerned about iran's lack of willingness to engage with the international community about its nuclear program. >> arthel: peter doocy reporting from washington, thanks. >> rick: a weather alert now, twin tornadoes leave a trail of destruction more than 8 miles long and you can see the homes ripped to shreds in aiken county, thousands left without power as severe storms ripped through the state, winds blowing well over 100 miles per hour. elizabeth pran is live with more. >> reporter: violent thunderstorms and tornadoes leaving people without power and causing flash floods and leaving quite a bit of damage and north

carolina, that state is feeling temperatures, 25 degrees cooler than yesterday and with that quick shift, came a very violent storm, people reported seeing quarter-sized hail as well as heavy rainfall, lots of falling trees, and, downed power lines, leaving thousands without power. also, in south carolina, folks there were also left in the dark, forecasters confirmed two tornadoes touched down there, one storm, an ef-2, winds blocking in at 130 miles per hour. and, as the storm carved an 8-and-a-half mile path, parts of the state seeing power outages as i said as well as damage to homes, and businesses, the cleanup efforts there are looking a lot like the cleanup efforts in parts of georgia. rome, georgia, folks there are still cleaning up after a tornado ripped through that area, on wednesday night, it was ef-2, ef 1, a 73-year-old woman died of a heart attack after she left her home for safety and the

red cross reports that area has been hit by tornadoes, five times in the past five years, here's what a woman said about the reoccurrence. >> any time there is lots of wind, people feel apprehensive and i know in this they beed with our beautiful, wonderful trees, you don't know when it will happen. >> reporter: forecasters say the storm hit at such a low altitude they were not able to accurately predict it and people there had no warning. rick, back to you. >> rick: scary, elizabeth prann for us in atlanta. thanks. >> arthel: hate to see those pictures, those people's lives have been totally ripped apart. coming up the g.o.p. slugfest may be opening the door for a new contender. so could the opposition to the president turn into a party of five? we'll tell you about the argument both for and against the third-party candidate. rushi rushi >> rick: and a childhood staple banned by law, john stossel joins us and asks if there is anything americans can do that

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>> for years kids set up stands like this, but, today, watch out. the police may bust you. >> i was like really scared because i didn't know it was going to happen, we were selling lemonade in our front yard, three days and the third day the police decided to shut us down. >> reporter: their mom heard the police yelling. >> they could hear them from inside my house, yelling at them, girls, you have to shut down the stand. >> made me want to hope my own stand in fox's front yard. a cop over there. will the police bust me? >> arthel: john stossel, they are taking a sobering new look at one of the many laws americans may not even know they are breaking. opening up their lemonade stand, for instance, now raising serious questions, over whether anything americans do can be considered actually legal. john stossel is the anchor of "stossel" on the fox business

network and i may be part of the incorrigible crowd and i'm breaking laws all over the place. >> one guy says the average american commits, people like us in the public eye, maybe 6 fell lan -- felonies a day and the specialists aren't sure what is legal. clearly, some things are legal and it took me 65 days to get legal permission to run the lemonade stand. >> arthel: maybe it was the location. >>you know, food servers law, i have to take a 15 hour course in food safety and had to have a big fire extinguisher. >> arthel: even though you were outside. >> government is a blunt instrument. >> arthel: tell me other examples. you looked at trying to open the lemonade stand. >> the pictures you see how are people who want to sell raw milk. cops come in, guns drawn and people who drink raw milk are

silly food faddists but in a free country have a right to be silly and the government says, no. and, the rest of those people, for selling raw milk or, if you grow chickens and want to invite this neighbors over, you can have a big chicken feast, but if you charge somebody one nickel, illegal. >> arthel: what do you think is behind this? what is the purpose. >> well-intentioned laws and they add a thousand a day, a thousand a day. it is impossible to keep track and they almost never repeal anything. obama got the attention about the silly rule about spilling milk has to be treated like an oil spill. but that rule has been in effect 30 years. even when the president makes fun of it, it doesn't get repealed. >> arthel: obviously you found fascinating examples and we'll watch the special. bottom line, there are all of these laws and we're breaking them without knowing them and having the cops show up would be probably an extreme example, is that right. >> it would be, but now and then it happens. we'll show a guy who served six

years in jail because he imported seafood in the wrong kind of bag from honduras. honduras later said, we don't care about the law, we repealed that and he fat the prosecutors and they fought him, six years in jail. the prosecutors have endless money and endless time. and, if they want to get you for trivial stuff, if they don't like you, they do. >> arthel: any good news? >> the good news is that now we have our cell phone cameras and if the police were -- afuse their power, people -- abuse their power, people can take pictures and it protects the police, you accuse them of false arrest, there is a record. more things are open, otherwise, no, no good news. a thousand new laws every day. >> arthel: that's a lot. who is monitoring this. >> i'm doing my job, passing laws, regulating. i'm making it safer. >> arthel: you do a lot of research. how long did you research this particular special? >> four months, this is my three times a year special.

>> arthel: was there anything you found that actually shocked you? >> i was shocked at portugal, legalized all drugs. not just marijuana, hard drugs, crack, heroin and drug use has not gone up, drug problems have gone down, the police, who were skeptical at first, now say it is working. we like it. >> arthel: the drug dealers are now taxpayers. >> right. it is still... still a criminal act but like a parking ticket. but, the crime is gone, the fear that you have to arm yourself and shoot at the police, you don't have to anymore. >> arthel: by the way, i wasn't putting a big stamp on anything there, just making a comment. john stossel, good to see you, as always and we'll make sure we check out the special. and of course you want more stossel you can always catch the special, illegal everything, is happening 10:00 p.m. eastern, tonight, right here, on the fox news channel. i'll be watching.

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>> arthel: the bottom of the hour, time for the top of the news, afghanistan, a gunman kills two u.s. military advisors, inside a government building. the taliban saying it was behind the attacks and this as protests break out across the country for a 5th straight day over the burning of korans at a nato

base. >> rick: nelson mandela is said to be in good spirits after being hospitalized for an abdominal condition. a spokesman for the 93-year-old former south african leader wouldn't go into details but said that he is doing well. >> arthel: the trial begins monday, over bp's catastrophic 2010 oil spill in the gulf of mexico. bp could be facing billions of dollars in fines for the worst offshore oil spill in u.s. history. >> rick: there are reports out in the last hour, mitt romney's campaign advisors are warning donors it could be a long campaign and could drag on into may but as the candidates begin to trade crippling blows, some in this say that the winner in the scenario may not be who you think. former candidate jon huntsman who dropped out, said this on msnbc: i see zero evidence of people

getting out there and addressing the economic deficit which is a national security problem, for heaven's sake. i think we're going to hatch problems politically, until we get some sort of third party movement or some alternative voice out there, that can put new ideas forward. could a third party candidacy really happen and, here now for a fair and balanced debate, cal thomas and former pennsylvania congressman joe sestak. good to see you both. thanks for coming in and, cal, it was almost 20 years ago, to the day, february 20th, 1992, that ross perot jumped into the presidential race. is there another one out there? could it happen? >> i remember that well, third parties, dob have a history of success in this country, you mentioned him dividing the vote between bill clinton and george h. w. bush and giving clinton the election with less than 50% of the popular vote. go back to 1968, 1972, the

alabama governor, segregationist george wallace, divided the democratic vote, giving democrats richard nixon, for two terms before he resigned and bull moose party of teddy roosevelt and the frustration of voters is understandable and i understand what john huntsman is saying and people vote for people and they think they'll do what they say when they get to washington, especially, republicans. you have one party to grows government, the democrats and other party that limits the rate of growth of government, the republicans. they are disgusted with both sides and a third party i don't think is viable. >> rick: congressman sestak, perot caused george h. w. bush the election and look at ralph nader in 2000 and say he cost al gore the election. a third party candidate from the left could certainly do a lot of damage. perhaps even to barack obama. do you see it happening? >> well, i have a little different take although i thought the points cal made were extremely good.

i honestly believe the failure of a political institution, has outraged americans across the spectrum of politics and has given the impetus for outside forces from tea parties to occupy wall streeters, to actually be the agent for any achievement that we presently are having, because, americans really do believe that these parties, leadships, are more concerned about the politics of survival of their party, than they are about the survival of the american way of life. that is the american dream. and what people are looking for, and why you see them in the republican primary, jumping from one candidate to the other, someone who eventually says, hey, look, here's where we are. this is what we have to do, based on the facts. and, these are the benchmarks we have to hit and i'm willing to be held accountable for that. they want a leader who actually understands, not just about authority and responsibility. but about accountability for that. and i honestly believe the dna

of politics changed more than people recognize out there, like where i come from, pennsylvania. >> rick: cal, ron paul is speaking, i think right now, as we speak, campaigning in michigan, ahead of the primary there, next tuesday and we heard this week from a nonpartisan group that his economic plan is the only one of the g.o.p. presidential candidates that doesn't plunge the country into more debt. seems like a message like that -- and i'm not talking specifically about ron paul running as a third party candidate. he said he's not interested in doing that but seems like a fiscally conservative message might resonate right now. >> well, possibly, but we have to understand why we are in the debt we're in. people rely too much on government and ron paul is right about that. politicians don't want to tell anybody they can't continue to have what they have been hatching. social security and medicare, we know those are the driving forces behind this debt and the

deficit. but, nobody wants to do anything about that, because they are afraid to tell anybody, no you can't have your government check anymore. and, this is a problem. the other problem is, too many voters are looking for a savior and believe the promises of the politicians and they get to washington and can't fulfill them, they don't have the power to, they get cynical and look for the next person and next election, the "new york times," two weeks ago, actually had a feature story about who might be running in 2016. come on! give me a break! >> rick: back to that point, though, congressman sestak, what cal talked about, i mean, i've heard from a lot of democrats who say they are just as disappointed in barack obama's first three-plus years in office. then you also hear from republicans who aren't happy with the field. it seems like there's a lot of discontent on both sides of the aisle. >> without a question. look, on the whole, i don't think americans care if you go left or right. they want something to work. and the reason that ron paul has

been so able to have such a cohort around him, to use his own words in the debate, the other night, he's consistent and when someone asks him a question, he'll give them a straight-up answer he's willing to be accountable for. i also believe this: that this america of ours is not just about rugged individualism. it is about being an alliance, using resources to create ladders, people are brave enough to walk up on their own is the wonderful alliance we have to get and the debt, i think you can see that when the bipartisan commission came out, the bowls simpson commission, it was a pragmatic way to have revenues raised and spending to be cut rightly in order to get a sustainable budget which neither the president, nor now, any republican candidate except, as

you well know, ron paul actually put on the table. >> rick: we have to leave it there, cal remind me not to ask you your picks for 2016. won't go there! congressman, always good to talk to you. >> great to be with you again and, great to be with cal. >> arthel: an official homecoming for the leader of new york's 2.5 million catholics. newly ordained ordcardinal timo dolan is coming home, after he was at the vatican, and lauren green is outside the cathedral. i imagine the mood there is festive and they are proud? >> reporter: absolutely. you know, all week long it has been a rock-star welcome for cardinal timothy dolan and it continued here at st. patrick's cathedral, because, like a conquering hero he worked the crowd on 5th avenue and then, as

he walked down st. pat's center aisle during the welcome-home celebration of his elevation, by pope benedict xvi, to the college of cardinals, a packed house and he told the faithful, that his cardinal's red hat was a triumph of new york, even with the challenges ahead, and there are many of them. >> arthel: would health care be on the list? any talk of that today, lauren. >> it was interesting, it was a civic service and there are state leaders and members of congress and many people he has been at odds with over the health care mandate and you have to remember, now, the prince of rome of the church of rome, a papal prospect as well that's u.s. conference of the catholic bishops he occupies the most prominent pulpit in america and told reporters that he and the bishops will not back down against the president's policies. take a listen:

>> nothing has been done to temper what seems to be to us and to a good swath of people, unwarranted and unprecedented intrusion into the integrity of the churches and, as far as the government trying to defy what our religious ministry and scope of our ministry should be. so, you bet we'll keep at it. not only challenging the administration, but, also, working with the legislature and the judiciary to see that this is modified and hopefully overturned. >> reporter: make no mistake he's front and center in the latest political conflict over religious liberty and over the next few months will be the greatest test of his as high challenges the obama administration. >> arthel: all right, of course we'll be watching and you, lauren green, will be all over it. and, following the story and giving us follow-up reports, nice to see you. >> reporter: thank you. >> rick: coming up, rick santorum, george mcgovern talk about political opposites, right?

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>> arthel: they come from different ends of the political spectrum but our next guest says rick santorum and george mcgovern may share one similarity. both men riding a wave of grassroots support and neither one getting support from their party's establishment. of course mcgovern lost in a land slide to nixon, in 1972. so is santorum on the same path heading for a big political wipeout? susan estrich is a professor of law and political science at the university of southern california, also a fox news contributor. susan, further connect the dots between rick santorum and george mcgovern. >> well, let me asked barry

goldwater into that, as well, a republican commentator, this week took the same position i think as i did but added goldwater into the mix. i think the question is, who is in charge, the political elite? the establishment, the elected officials? the money people who are going to pick the nominee, based on the electability or the grass roots, who are much more ideological and, you know, the street folks in the party. who are going to decide who the nominee is. and if you go back to mcgovern or back to goldwater, in both cases you had the sort of ideological wing of the party taking control of the nomination process, and, picking a candidate who, quite frankly, most people in the establishment thought couldn't win. this time, you have the republican establishment which is almost 100% behind romney. and you've got a lot of people at the grassroots level, the folks who are party members, party activists, much more

ideological. backing santorum and, there is a real question here. who is in charge. >> arthel: is this an example of the republicans going off-roading and, if so, who would it take or what would it take to get them back on the main track, main road and does the party need to? >> well, you know, it is funny, the democrats did this some years ago. there were all the rules commissions and i admit i was on behalf of them that said we have to give, you know, the insurgents, the insurgent candidates more of a chance in the process. and they adopted rules like proportional representation, and the long calendar for the primary. and, then, finally they started saying, you know, maybe this is not a good idea. the funny thing is the republicans in recent years, did exactly the same thing. now you've got a much longer republican calendar, you've got a bunch of states that give losers delegates, and i think a

lot of republican leaders are beginning to rethink whether that is a good thing. but, you are seeing the polls narrow. mitt romney is picking up some steam in michigan and arizona. and while i think the process could go a long way, i think the message is starting to get through. to rank-and-file republicans, that you have got potentially a vulnerable democrat and you have to nominate somebody who will be able to really make a strong case on the economy. >> arthel: indeed. we have to leave it there. i bet some people wonder if it is representative of a political power-shift or political perspective. we'll get to that another time. by the way, susan, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> arthel: okay. all right, reach susan estrich, syndicated column at newspapers across the country, every wednesday and fright. -- wednesday and friday. >> rick: it can be a confusing process at times, knowing when

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cents ♪ ♪ can hardly wait to get a little mud on the tires... >> arthel: if you have a good set of tires they save you money on gas and even save your life. >> rick: that is why it is important to know when it is time to replace them and when you do, what kind of tires could get. it can be confusing. and, "consumer reports" is stepping up, this month with a guide on what to look for. and "consumer reports" auto program leader gene peterson is joining us. good to see you, thanks for coming in. one of these has a quarter on it. why do you have a quarter on this guy. >> you know, what it comes down to, nowadays, there are over 300 different sizes of tires and it used to be when your tires wore out and you went to the tire store and you bought new ones, the 300 sizes out there, chances are the store will not have the tire in stock that fits your vehicle.

so, you are probably going to end up buying what they have available, not necessarily what you wanted. we say, a better approach, don't wait until they are completely worn out. look at shopping for tires, when you have about one inch tread depth available on the tires. >> rick: that is what the quarter is good for. >> arthel: what do you do? >> it is a simple gauge, look at the top of george's head, that is 1/8 of an inch and when inspecting the tires, take a quarter, but it head-first down into a groove and if you can see his head, just touching the edge of the tread that means you have about 1/8 inch of tread left. this is good, because it still gives you enough depth to have good all-weather grip and time to do research, and, gives you time to shop around for the best price for the tire you want, and, then you can go down to the tire store and say, hey i'd like to get the brand-x tire, if they don't have it they can order it

for you and you have time to buy it. >> arthel: and you talk about tire maintenance, which is -- the whole idea is to try to put off having to buy it and if you need them you have to get them but, proper maintenance, you need the right air pressure. >> that is a common problem, two samples here, the farthest away, this tire has fat shoulder wear, typical of tires that run under inflated. the shoulders of the tire have worn faster and, under inflated tires, people don't realize they lose pressure all the time. >> arthel: hit a pothole, boom! >> and more so, the air seems through the rubber and it gets colder out and the pressure run and they run around on under inflated tires and it adversely affects your fuel economy and, it can mean that you are going to overheat them, because there

is so much flexing and contrary to that. this tire, the center of it is worn out. >> arthel: what does that mean. >> they put too much air in the tire and what happens, probably the person who inflated it didn't have a gauge. and inflated by eye or they went by the sidewall rating on the tire. that is the wrong inflation pressure. >> arthel: inside your doorjamb. >> it's on your doorjamb, drive-side doorjamb and also available in the owner's manual. a lot of people don't rec thogn that and on the tire they see the pressure and think that is the right one to use. >> rick: a minute left. when you buy new tires, they come in all different price ranges, is the most expensive the best? >> not necessarily and people have to understand, buying tires is not like buying clothing, the ig bar the tire, the more expensive it will be and i would

suggest, when looking for a tire, look at our ratings, of course and look for a tire that does well with handling and breaking and then look for something you have high priority on, and, maybe it is tread wear an and. >> rick: gene peterson with "consumer reports," you can read more about it. the latest issue of "consumer reports" magazine, good to see you, gene. very, very informative. >> arthel: that's going to do it for us, stick around, the fox report with harris faulkener is coming up next. see you next weekend. >> rick: have a great weekend, baefsh. bye. [ male announcer ] this is coach parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil no and maybe up to four in a day. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. way to go, coach. ♪ prego?! but i've been buying ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder whaother questionable choices i've made?

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