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i'm greg gutfeld. let's go to tv's andy levy for a pre game report. andy, what is coming up on tonight's show? >> our top stories tonight, the head of the bbc is far more likely for islam than christianity. >> it is my experience that new polls never lie. and a new program would allow inmates to have mp3 players, but are they arguing that forcing them to listen to the black eyes eyes -- black eyed peas are cruel and unusual punishment? wild race night. >> it sure was. i thought they would never catch them. >> what? >> i know, i can't believe juan pablo almost got away either. >> are you talking about when
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juan pablo montoya crashed? >> i don't know juan possible blow's last name. all i know is he came close to winning his freedom last night. >> what the hell are you talking about? >> the 12th annual race for freedom which i held in my apartment. what would i be talking about? >> the daytona 500. >> what the hell is that? >> never mind. >> go away. let's welcome our guests. she is so adorable that cute things around her commit suicide. i am here with jill dobson. check out her website, jill dobson.com. if intelligence was bruises i would wake up with him all over my body. kevin williamson. he is the author of the politically incorrect guide to socialism. and his tapeworm is on a liquid diet. it is my repulsive sidekick, bill schulz. and even his substitute chamber pot is a 1 percenter. new york observer contributor dana vachon. and he is a talking paper who
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is out of shaper. our new york times correspondent, good to see you, pinch. >> republican candidate mitt romney admits his gaps are ending his campaign. he walked over on to an aids back so he could get to his already running bentley and he raced to a meeting at the four seasons. ♪ all the news that's fient to print -- that's fit to print, yeah ♪ >> that did not happen. >> it may have happened. >> i don't believe it. >> i was told to not comment further. >> all right then. >> yes. >> they admit they cower for they fear power. that's the message as seen here. so why is that, why is thatters? thompson spated crap about how they are having a close
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ethnicity. and when it comes down to the difference between polite complaints and death threats, he is scared of the threats. he said, without question, i complain in the strongest possible terms is different from i complain in the strongest possible terms, and i am loading an ak-47 as i write. this definitely raises the stakes. thompson says the murder of theo van gogh made the broadcasters realize their actions could have consequences, and when asked if this meant the bbc would never air a program about mohamed as they did jesus he said, quote, essentially yes. let's go live to the senior media correspondent, slinky on the treadmill, sot sph?
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>> conceivably that could go on forever. that lit brawly blew my -- that literally blew my mind. so the head of the bbc is saying if you threaten us, the network, we will give in to your demand. >> yes, terrorism works. i used to have a paper and we had a rule that you couldn't refer to terrorists as terrorists. i said why? they are terrorists. it was like clarkent kent talking to his boss. that's terrible. that's why they call them terrorists. if we called them that, they would kill one of our guys. and so we didn't do it. >> it is amazing. so actually other religions could learn from them. >> the more irresponsible you are, the better people treat you. it is just like the rest of life really. >> it is like instead of being the squeaky wheel rut squeaky terrorist. dana should thompson be commended for actually saying something, actually admitting it? >> i think we all know that
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the logical crime of any kind of bias is equivalent, but the cultural impact of that varies widely. kevin explains why m. when you are with such a majority it doesn't make sense for any one christian to expenned some imagery policing the christians. it is not like the christians are going to turn on the christians, but some may say they already have. >> an interesting point. however, living in europe for about 40 years how -- now, now it was four years in england, there are a lot of muslims. there are a lot there. >> like a majority? >> no. >> they are not a minority. there is a lot of them. >> they are a big minority. >> exactly. what would you call them? >> well, i don't think there are that many. a bit minority. >> or maybe it is because they are so outspoken you think they are a majority, but they
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are a minority. >> it is like swedish americans. they are a small minority, but they are still loud. >> you can begin with something that nothing is at stake in terms of shaping identity. we get closer together and a lot is at stake because it is the air we breathe. >> jill, when a religion -- when you are scared of religion and it makes threats does it mean it is insecure? grow up, rye lig general, other religions don't get mad. >> be cool. be cool. >> i do think, and i also think journalists should see this as an equal opportunity. you shouldn't be pleasing any of these. you should be president aring in an unbias way as possible. and i think we should take a note from air force one. i do not negotiate with terrorists.
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>> that was an amazing impression. that was unbelievable. you could tell the total differences between the president and jones. you nailed it. that was good. >> they worked with a drama coach for months to say it like that. >> the only thing missing was the midlife crisis. >> since you brought up movies i would like to transition to a recent event in the past. it is not just the bbc who fell prey to this cowardly thinking. he directed the film "2012" and they were talking about how in the movie of 2012 they destroyed everything. they destroyed the vatican. they destroyed buddhist temples, but the one thing they didn't destroy was the kabomb, a holy site in mecca because he said, i will not have it on my head because of a movie. so i guess this is just the
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way it goes. >> i respect that snow. -- respect that though. i respect them for admitting to doing something everybody else does, but goes about the day without actually copying to the fact that this stuff works. what did they do when they did the whole mohamed thing? they pulled it and were silent. at least these guys were saying how it is. >> or they are saying, what would comedy central do? >> and roland emerick is right not to risk his life for 2012 because it was a terrible, terrible film. if it was a good film, i can see it happening. but i don't know. i guess i don't give the bbc any credit. they have never said this before. they denied this. >> that would be fine. you make a movie like "american beauty" who are not white people in the suburbs and people talk about how are you courageous and brave. you are cow ray jus and brave if you pick a fight with a muslim. your nay -- your neighbors
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will not come over and shoot you in the face. >> very true. >> from coward to commanders, he is talking trash. he is using a car that shuns gas. it is perhaps the first brag ever involving a chef revolt. the president said he will buy the hybrid car after his second term in office. here is obama speaking to a crowd of united autoworkers activists. is there any other kind? >> i have to get inside a new chevy volt fresh off the line even though secret service wouldn't let me drive it. but i like sitting in it. i bet it drives real good. and five years from now when i am not president anymore i will buy one and drive it myself. >> at least he is not pre sum shoes. you are probably wondering how did shocked mouse react to the battery powered boast? >> in five years now when i am
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not president anymore i will buy one and drive it myself. >> see that's how america feels. shocked mouse speaks for all of us, jill. don't you find it weird that obama -- president obama is rooting for a car that is subsidized? nobody wants that car. >> if you want to get to work and back home again you need to do more on it. >> it is not a pure electric car. you will get 300 miles to the gallon and make it through the lincoln tunnel. >> i don't know if that is true. >> there is. >> there are other variables in that. >> there is the old man that stands there with the big liquid thing that he claims as water. >> it is a hybrid.
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>> do you think this car is a good idea? >> i know gm is on pace to make 10 billion and they made 7 last year. and i know the state subsidized capital is something that is working and the chinese are doing in terms of fuel efficiency. and i don't cheer for the catastrophes but we need to do it in some capacity. >> it is running a police state, and you can really make stuff happen on a short schedule, but it is not really the best. they had to recall more cars than they sold. if the volt survives for another five years regardless of whether he is present or not it is because of subsidees and requiring people to buy those cars. it is a tremendous miss allocation of capital. it is something that lowers the national income in the long run. it is just a terrible idea. >> volt may or may not be a
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success, but look at the space program. when they needed them they found the americans were the only ones who made them and they were expensive. as a bright idea government needs to be involved. the market isn't totally efficient. these guys in detroit move quarter to quarter. >> shouldn't they gettish ped by investors? >> they may or may not be a hit. >> people look at the chinese example and they forget all they did was a one trick pony thing and the soviets did the same thing. it was using the police state to industrialize on their very short period of time a massive cultural company. you can do that with great results, but you only can do it once. transporting a society like china or russia after the revolution is one thing. saying "have i a good idea for the car and here is huh we do it" is another. >> he is not my proxy. it is john kennedy.
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i think the government needs a higher vision of a society than the consumers model would have. i don't think people will take great risks. i don't think ibm would have moved their computing program along if they didn't have a guaranteed government contract in the time they did. so i don't think we should dismiss the idea of government providing vision for the market place out of hand. >> they throw off technologies and investments that are useful in the long-term. that's fine. the chevy volt is not a public good. it is a public piece of crap. >> well, let me ask you, jill, if it is a puppies of crap, i think it is a good thing to buy like your grandmother. she can tool around in it, and she won't get far. it is not something for the president. >> it has me wonder figure michelle obama is like, you promised me a do nationally
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and now because you made this quote and somebody picked it up, now we have to get a volt. >> i am from michigan so anything that helps the home state is a good thing. >> it is the only way it works. the guys who invented the steamboat didn't get rich. it was the second guy who perfected it it. they are part of a larger creative process. you can't view them in and of themselves. >> that excuse is always used in the same of failures. >> who has a palm? you better believe that a lot of the money that was wasted in palm winds up allowing us to have kindles for $80. >> but we didn't bail out palm. >> well g -- gm is returning nicely. $10 million is nothing to sneeze at. >> i could sneeze on it, but i don't know what it would do. >> it would infect it. >> bells are not living thing.
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they are not flesh and blood. >> which does not make the volt a homerun, i agree with you. >> to use a sports metaphor, it is a strike bunt. chevy vans to back up plans, will economic malays lead to the end of days? what to do if there is a complete economic or political collapse in the u.s. the so-called dooms day bill would crow 80 a task force to look at catastrophes from disruptions and food in energy supplies to a melt down of the federal government. said one state representative, quote, i don't think there is anything in this room today that would say this country is in good shape. to put your head in the sand and think nothing is bad going to happen and we have no obligation to the citizens of the state of wyoming to have the discussion, well it is not healthy. sadly they were overruled as on tuesday the state's house of reps -- that's a great name for a gym -- was shot down 30-27. house of reps would be great at capitol hill. so wyoming must stop training
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the dooms day army which we have tape of. >> i wish i could do that, with him actually. >> the world is going to end at some point. that is fair. why not prepare for it? and if you have preparations, can i go with you? >> yes. we have our own dooms day bill. >> i like that nickname. it has a certain ring. and do you know who lives in wyoming? harrison ford has a place in jackson hole. would he not make a perfect president of wyoming one day? we saw him in "air force one." >> he is not going to do an
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interview for your blog. i don't care how long we continue this charade. >> you have a dooms day plan and you look like somebody who runs a secret underground layer. >> what is wrong with it? you keep batteries in your flashlight and i keep a bullet in the gun. it is because you are afraid you may need this stuff. economic collapse and things like that, there are all sorts of possibilities. but it is a nontrivial one. you have things like natural disasters and wmb strikes and things like that that could disrupt the social functioning for long periods of time. it may not be affecting yoap yom which is not first on anyone's terrorism hit list. why not deal with the situations ? it happens other places. there is no reason it couldn't happen here as well. >> you and i talked about this many times. are we short sided for voting down this bill? >> we? >> we. we the general we.
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speaking french. >> shouldn't the authorities have some kind of plans in place for a broad anarchy? you would think it is just part of running the government and it would already be there. the fact that it would be put through explicitly sounds like a fantasy like a wish to be included. when a break down of systems might leave large parts where they are. >> terrible. i love wyoming. never been there. >> here is the thing about dooms day, how come it is seen as negative? >> there is a lot of freedom involved. >> these people haven't seen mad max. it is awesome. i want to see dudes with three eyes. i taught transformer cars. that would be cool. why is it that it is the states or the towns the terrorists don't even know
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exist that are the ones. >> those are the places i want to be. i want to be in wyoming, but i hear it is a great place. >> you are safe in wyoming. coming up, should newborn babies figure out stuff on their own? with his little -- with as little parental interaction as possible, she discusses, i don't know where my baby is and i don't care. but first, what states do americans hate? i bet it is canada.
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likely voters believe they should pay lower and not higher tax rates. only 4% thought it was appropriate to take 40% away from those making 250 grand a year. obama is seeking from january 2013 onward. the data found 75% believe the corporation should pay a lower rate than the current 35%. one explanation of the study conducted by the hill.com versus other surveys is that it specified how much the nation's top earners are already paying. says the former reagan advisor, it might be that people are underestimating how much the rich pay now. true. bottom line these findings are surprises and i don't like surprises. guess who else doesn't like surprises. proves my point once again scary cat.
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you do not buy this research -- >> no, i buy the research. they gave them seven options and if you look at the options if you get a standard distribution, most people will say obama's numbers are too high and he twisted it into a headline. it is the easiest thing in the world. >> it would have been fairer if they added another option that was above obama? >> the way the question was presented was like it was a break down between 20% and above 45%. the standard of distribution would be too high. the better thing to say would be do you think it is too high? >> interesting. do you agree or disagree? >> i think most polls say where it matters is where you phrase the question. they would have asked the people, do you know what rich people pay in taxes? do you know what the corporate tax rate is? the appropriate right answers are 0. and the corporate tax rate is a stupid thing. the nominal rate is paid by basically nobody. it is a complicated, stupid
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code that a lot of people pay nothing and some people pay 7%. some industries are running an average of 8%, 9%. and very few companies industries pay anything like 35%. >> i paid 85%. it makes no sense. i don't understand the point of cheating. >> it is a joke. jill, shouldn't taxes be based on hue cute you are? if so -- on how cute you are? if so you would be in the top 1%. >> is that a compliment? i get confused. i have to agree. it has to do a lot with wording. and i was thinking, what if there was a poll that says isn't bill not the worst thing that hasn't happened to red eye? he will say he sbt the worst -- he isn't the worst thing that happened. >> you are pro harrison ford and you hate me. >> in case i didn't answer your question, yes to cuteness. >> shouldn't ug le, poor people think they shouldn't
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live where there are handsome people like me. >> no. i will say that everyone hates polls until they find one they like. >> the reason it is sucky is they don't meption capital sales tax. they brings the buffet rule. they never talk to the people they poll. it wasn't a question. they never talk betted fact romney paid 14% even though he made 42 million because nobody tax -- taxed the investments. if they did the results would be a lot different. >> then you have to explain capital gains taxes. >> i think you are speaking for people that don't want you to speak for them. do you have a comment on the show like how stupid bill is? e mail us. it is red eye at fox news.com. and leave a voicemail on my direct line. still to come the half time report from andy levy. >> tonight's half time report is sponsored by the lawn mower
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save on this document here i thought it was all gone. >> you are not pregnant? >> i don't know. i have no way of knowing that, jill. i am dealing with one emergency at a time here, please. >> he is not supposed to talk about it until three months in. we have to bleep all of this. >> they are more sensitive to islam because of threats of violence. can we call this what it is? it is islam aphobia. >> it could be islamaphobia, phobia. >> that's exactly what this is islamaphobia. >> phobia? >> no, just one phobia. >> phobia. >> greg i want to check on something you said. you said, quote, when asked if this meant the bbc would never air a saw tear cal program about mohamed the way it has about jesus he answered, essentially yes, awesome. the awesome part was you, right? >> yes, that was me commenting
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sarcastically. >> that's what i thought. i just wanted to double check. christians are a majority group and, okay, in the majority muslim countries they killed people who do this kind of thing too. >> yes so france is a catholic country and go to a french church and you won't see many people there and talk to french people in a cafe about god and they will speak about him in the hypothetical. you go to a muslim country and religion plays a different role in people's lives. they regard the treatment of their images differently because they are less sacred. >> great for them. but it shouldn't affect how i have to treat it. >> i don't think so either, but it does. >> not to coin a phrase, but life isn't fair. jill you said all journalists should be equal opportunity
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offenders, but it is not about journalism. it is about programming. the bbc ran a show that a lot of christians found deeply offensive. the head of the bbc was admitting he would never run a show like that about islam. >> as a highly regarded journalist my goal would be an equal opportunity offender, equally offensive, and i think that the bbc should apply the same thing in the journalism and it is the programming too. >> i should point out you are regarded as one of the most equally offensive journalists. >> i got a statueett. >> i am impressed when you go up to the saw 11 bra tee -- the celebrities celebrities and say in the eye, who are you wearing? >> who made those shoes? >> between britney and lyndsay which is christianity and which is islam. >> britney is christian january tee. >> lyndsay's suffering is much
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more catholic and britney is a born again. there is a higher beta. >> andy, what do you think? >> can you stop pretending you understood what he said. >> just roll your eyes. >> i went there once. >> britney has been to hell. >> so neither is muslim. >> britney could become -- >> or i could just move on. obama says he will buy a volt after he is president. you know when he will buy a volt? after he closes get mow. gitmo. by the way, can we talk about how much sarah palin would have been mocked if she said i bet it drives real good. >> yes ssments i. >> it would have been unending. but he gets a pass. why is that? >> i don't understand. >> i don't understand either. these are important questions and you are asking them. >> but are you not answering
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them. >> i can't answer them. i am limited intelligence. >> that's because you can make fun of whites southern accents. >> but she doesn't have a southern accent, but i take the point. >> i meant a hick. maybe being a little regionalful regionalful -- regional there. socially blacks are a protected class of people. you can't make fun of things that have to do with blackness. and it is probably good reason. it is socially healthy. but you would think the president you can make fun of because you can't protect the class. it is the president. >> the press interpreted it to be a joke when obama says it, but when pa lynn says it it is, we got her. >> the people who should be pointing it out arey advice rating one another. there is a questionable car.
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>> it could also be be i am the only person in the country with the courage to point these things out. >> that is true. >> check plus for me. dana, don't you think one of the reasons china has been so successful at state run capitalism is they don't care about labor laws? >> that's one of them. i think the market is not to be confused with a god. we learned that at great costs over the last several years. the market needs to be guided in a grex that will cause wyoming to not need a total destruction plan. >> but in china isn't the state the good and then it is using the markets or the businesses in the service of that god? >> china is godless. >> is it the exact word? >> i was ntd comparing us, i was envoking the sprays program. or even some of the graphic stuff of the regan years.
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it gives us the video gaming industry. >> all of that said, kevin i said this before, i don't understand the attitude, and maybe i am wrong, but i feel some conservatives are opposed to green technology. don't we need to move in that direction if you believe in global warming or not, for national security purposes, don't we need to get away from being dependent on oil? >> no, i think the idea is one of the dumbest ideas in american politics. if you want to see a country that is independent go to north korea. you don't want to use that as a model in your energy sector. you do better. >> it doesn't change. we would move to coal to oil. energy evolves in the way the commodity doesn't. it can become stronger.
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>> kevin we changed the way we make houses in that we have different materials now. isn't it the same thing with energy? >> who knows which way you want to go. the markets work so you can find organizations. if you want something cleaner we have tons and tons of natural gas. we have a lot of shale and frabbing to get it out of the ground. it is a fairly good thing, but people say we need the giant wind mills and solar farms that don't work well smed. you put politics in decision. >> i don't think it is the government that should be deciding. it but the train of conservism has decided to poo-poo -- >> look, they don't liken viern mental lists. it was the protest against the iraq war. we see the rif-raf coming into the street.
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it stopped people from asking important questions about the build up to the war. i feel the same about the environmentalists. you have to keep your critical thinking of despite the revollion you hear. >> me shots out a doom -- dooms dale film. have you seen him lately? >> no. >> a lot of that going on. >> kevin, you said why not have a plan for dealing with situations in which there is a large scale national disorder? the original version of this bill had the task force they were 2ing to buy look into an aircraft care yore. i felt like this bill -- for one i wanted to see where they were going to put an aircraft carrier. and what they have done is the future will belong to idaho. >> every state should have an aircraft carrier, even oklahoma. that was crazy.
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>> to not until you put it on wheels. until you use it, it is a great indoor mall. >> if you are toeing it behind an f-150, that might work. >> never trust oregon. >> that's always a good point. >> and lastly, you said the collapse of american society would reap large areas of wyoming. i'm not sure you intended it and it is a huge come plaw mebts. -- come plaw -- complement. >> i felt like you were bashing wyoming. >> i was doing that too. >> i am done. >> he puts the y in wyoming. see you later, andy. >> coming up, does your butler need a butler 1234* dana vachon discusses his new book, "even my help has help." and new terrorists at gitmo deserve a soccer field? these are two things i hate most which is soccer and
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should the wrongs be rewarded with songs? should those who are not 3 be given mp3's? the u.s. bureau of prisons is testing a program that would allow 200,000 inmates to carry digital music players as a way to deal with, quote, idleness, stress and bore dom associated with incarceration. the icon as i'm calling it may expand nationwide by this year's end. the device is being sold in prison comma satisfactories. commisarries. clearly this must be discussed in the -- >> lightning roooooouuuuuunnnndd. lightning round.
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>> dana, isn't the whole point of prison to experience time passing, not being -- not having your time aided in its passing with diversions. you are supposed to experience the slow crawl of time. >> no, i think we need -- you want to reform the character. i am brushing up on my plato and nothing does it like well chosen music. we want to reform their algorithms. >> but you will not reform the algorithms with the black eyed peas. >> and actually most of the ipads will be sharpened into vhives. >> they need to make them out of you are in of. >> and then they would like to eat them and choke to death. isn't the point of prison to lose the privileges you have? >> in a sense. people who really belong there are forced to listen to
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barbara streisand. whether they are listening to a song on the mp3, it has to be low on the list of things to worry about. >> the state of the prison and the role is to reform you. >> their penance is as a way of admonishment. you, jill, unlike everybody has done hard time. they don't de soift mp3's but it does curb violence. should we over look the fact that it is a pleasure? >> we are like, yes, give themth i-pod. it might help with reform, and these guys are pumping iron in the gym at the prison all the time. can you imagine working out without the black eyed peas? they need it. >> you people make me sick to my stomach of i am not paying for that stuff. i'm not sure who s.
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>> who else would be paying for it? >> it is money they make for beating each other up jie. >> but who pays the pages 1234* we pay the prisoners wages. disuse it bather you that inmates own more things than you will ever have. >> inmates have a better life than this out mate. i would also say that according to recent studies listening to a black eyed pea record willower id. >> let's get it started indeed. >> it is time to take a break. don't even think of leaving me now.
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just in time for spring, gitmo is getting a new soccer field at the cost of $17 billion. >> what? >> no, it is $750,000. >> what? >> yes, still. it is about half the size of a football field and was selected because of the sport's popularity among the alleged terrorists. the field has been constructed so detainees can access it up
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to 20 hours a day through special passageways without being escorted by the military. dana, are you a country clubber. i'm sure you think this is awesome they are turning gitmo into a country club. should obama be impeached? >> what? >> i strung those two together 689 say yes or i will care for you. >> nobody said doing our duty would be cheap. you have 20
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hours of soccer. >> how screwed up a culture is when soccer is used as a bribe. >> this is a gift to the historians who argued for us. it is inexpensive when you think of it that way. >> forcing inmates to play soccer is cruel and you are into into -- is cruel and unusual punishment. >> sylvester stallone is on his way to gitmo. he hillary gain his glory. >> that is a great idea for a movie which will never be done. there are not any great movies like that. >> and you can't talk about muslims and movies. >> you can change it to where
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it is a christian soccer team in egypt. >> one official says these outdoor activity will reduce behavior problems. >> is it the mp3 players too? i think it is great we have a soccer player. we should send the soccer players there. and we have threne tee of work down there. and we are ever, ever, of leaving gitmo. we are never leaving ever. >> make it a spring break destination. it is here and it is wonderful. >> dressing up in an orange jump suit with a frog mask. >> this is america. we will have a casino. >> rides and a casino and an all you can eat buffet. >> it could be mitmo.
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i will see you back here at 5 p.m. eastern time for "the five" and andy will be on" hannity" at 9:00 p.m. eastern. coming up tomorrow, look who is here, jim norton, dana perino and terry safford. >> time to go back to tv's andy levy for the post game wrap up. hi, andy. >> hi, greg. jill, are you excited for this year's "dancing with the stars." >> super psyched. there is a lot of tv talkers. you know who they are missing though? a certain cute, perky, rhythm filled tv talker named greg
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gutfeld. i stuttered over your name but i meant it. >> i will never dance for anybody. not since the accident. >> you look so good in sequence. >> he does do a lot of dancing in the bars. >> usually on the bar. >> put a few pino cola dos in me. >> and we have a long story about the development of casino gab belying which is a sad and exploited business. they are throwing aware their futures, so read it. >> ien jo i gambling and think it should be legal. i hear you are playing shows on the road? >> i will be opening for paul mccurio, and then we will be at the radisson in new london at acers players court. and then up to the giggle box. everybody come out.
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