>> gretchen: have a great weekend. see you tomorrow -- i mean monday. bill: nice show, guys. good morning, everybody. this could be a double deadly dose of disaster. word just in of a high risk for severe weather. that risk warning only goes out a few times a year and today is one of those days. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." i'm bill hemmer. martha: i'm martha maccallum. bill: we heard from the storm victims and they are trying to save anything that's left of their ravaged lives. >> so much happened in basically the blink of an eye. it was there, it was loud, it

was fast, it was furious, and it was gone. >> we woke to the roof coming down and the garage coming down. we ran to the back of the house to get the girls. they were screaming on top of their lungs. i hate thinking about it. i ran fast i could and my heart stopped. >> we are working together. we have to help each other. that's how we survive and move forward. bill: janice dean has been watching this every hour of every day. >> reporter: the storm predictions center issuing a high-risk area. maybe we see this a couple times a year. that means they are very certain we could potentially see

long-lasting tornadoes. a significant outbreak expected across the tennessee river valley. you have some warning now. if you live in this area. i don't want you to just focus on that white area because the area shaded in red and the yellow shaded areas we could see long track destructive tornadoes. so noaa radios on. we are pretty certain almost sure that we are going to see a significant severe weather outbreak including tornadoes. so nashville, i want you to be on alert. louisville, rexing on, they are sending kids home today at noon in anticipation of this severe weather outbreak and it will be long lasting. not only the afternoon, but overnight and into tomorrow. we have got a moist unstable air

mass right there. our of and low pressure which is the trigger. then we have a strong jetstream that will add to the punch. that will give us a destructive potentially deadly outbreak. bill: this is set up in a classic example of weather you do not want, warm air from the south and cold air from the north. they are going to hit at some point. and when they hit and where they hit you hope is not where you live. >> we want to make sure people are aware of the potential. the videos we have seen of the destruction. we had deaths, we had shopping centers completely annihilated. this is a foreshadowing of what we could see today, march, april and may. april and may are typically the

busiest of months. april and march it's -- the end of february it's almost unheard of. bill: coming in like a lion. thank you, janice. martha: these folks in kentucky prepare for the next round of severe weather. people already hit hard are sifting through the damage. the national weather service confirms at least 11 tornado whipped through the state of kentucky. these pictures are coming to us from elizabethtown, kentucky. officials say the power of these storms was incredible. >> the doors opened. we watched the old freight train go by. >> it's unbelievable how the wind can do this and a tornado. it weighs probably 1,000 pound. it was lifted up and carried

over into another man's backyard. martha: it's unbelievable what the wind and power can do. the governor of kentucky has urged people there to stay vigilant. he wants them to be on the lookout for what could be more severe weather head their way. bill: janice is talking about the school kid going home at noon today. if you have pictures you want to share with us we'll perhaps take that and share it with our audience. go to foxnews.com/ureport. consider your safety first, especially after what you just heard. martha: from the tumultuous weather to the tumultuous election, super tuesday is just days away and the key battleground state of ohio is getting lot of attention. rick santorum leads the way in

ohio right now. he's got 35% of the vote to mitt romney's 31%. newt gingrich 17%. he has high hopes for the south. ron paul always hopes to be the wildcard in any one of these races. he's at 12%. ohio is a crucial state on the road to the nomination as it always is, in this case because it's a tight race between santorum and romney. a lot of folks in ohio are starting to look at this and think about who they want to vote for. 65% say their mind are pretty much made up. but 35% say they could change their minds based on what they hear in the coming days. you have got to get to 1,144 for the delegate race. we are going from 183 with which

for mitt romney in his column. so this will be a significant moment. many would expect -- unless it gets spread out evenly. we'll get to some kind of resolution. bill: ohio will get a lot of attention, and so will georgia. gingrich put a lot of his focus on winning that state. santorum telling voters the government has to stop taking your money and giving it to other people. >> they are taking wealth from some and redistributing. saying everybody has to be equal, otherwise it's not fair. bill: as you can guess, santorum's campaign saying he's the more conservative option, saying if republicans use a moderate they won't win the white house come november. martha: head to our web site for

the up-to-the-minute headlines. the headlines bubbling in there all the time. you can find at foxnews.com/politics. how about gas prices as you get ready to fill up for the weekend they are up for the 24th straight day. in relief in sight. the nation wade average $3.45. in the u.k. they are paying nearly $10 a gallon. $12 for premium in the u.k. who better to bring in than stuart varney who is so glad he lives in new jersey. >> that's correct, martha. $10 for regular in britain, $12 in premium. most of that is tax. let's not forget that. but can you imagine driving up

in an suv filling up at $12 a gallon? in america the price has gone up again today. odds with, it will go up again next week. i say that because the price of oil this morning has gone up to $108 a barrel. that oil price has not yet benefactorred into the price at the pump. most people who live now california, illinois, connecticut, or oregon, they pay $4 a gallon. martha: the reason we are seeing this recent spike, what is it? >> because of iran or the threat of a cutoff in the supply in the world market. a development in and around iran

that will take oil off the market. so there is an expectation of a constriction of supply down the road. that's why the price is being bid up and the price at the pump is going up right now. martha: thanks, stuart. we'll see you soon. bill: what can be done about the surge? new york center in chuck schumer looking to saudi arabia asking them to pump up their output. interesting conversation on this with the energy secretary coming up in 30 minutes. martha: for president obama the average for his first term, $3.04. but so far in the fourth year $3.47. for path george w. bush, the average for first term was $1.55

a gallon. in 2004, his forth year prices spiked to $1.85. a far cry from where we are today. bill: once you hit the weekend you feel the pain because you run around with your family trying to get everything done. the republican front runner mitt romney out of michigan telling the voters he won't quote embarrass them if he's in the white house, and to whom is that directed? martha: a runaway on the runway. a high-speed chase on the tarmac at an airport and an emotional return for students at chardon high school. they are back in class for the first time since the shots rang out in their hallways and these

three classmates lost their lives. >> i'm a football coach and study hall teacher. the law enforcers and first responders to came to our aid that day are the heroes. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.

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bill: did you hear this? republican presidential hopeful mitt romney campaigning in idaho taking a swipe at the rest of his rivals in the republican field, or was this directed for somebody else. >> we are people who are patriotic willing to serve each other and when called upon to sacrifice we'll do it. what we need in leadership is people who will tell the truth and live within teg right. i'll not embarrass you in the white house. bill: that last line has people

talking. i will not embarrass you in the white house. many people say that was direct at a begin privilege or santorum. do you agree with that logic? >> romney is in a campaign specifically aimed at santorum. he hurt himself with missteps with female republican voters having to do with everything from the business about jfk and he wants to throw up and the business about wanting to be able to afford college for your kids might make you or the president a snob. i think people felt this was the beginning to damage the brand. and i think romney was speaking in those terms. bill: i'm not so sure about that, juan. i think -- if you listen to obama's speeches he's not talking about santorum and

gingrich that much. you mean romney's speeches. bill romney's speeches. he's trying to pair himself up with the current president. when he says i will not embarrass america in the white house, do you think he's really talking about rick santorum or was he talking about the current man in the white house or a former in the white house. >> we should not be in doubt about who a candidate was talking about on the stump. it was vague enough i understand what you are saying. in the aftermath of his victory in michigan he directed his fire at president obama. at the beginning of those remarks he was talking about being patriotic and you wouldn't think anybody would doubt santorum or gingrich on the issue of patriotism. bill: here is another clip. this goes -- not to support my

argument for the current discussion, but i think it does. this was from earlier in the day in north dakota. listen carefully. >> he doesn't get the credit for the increase, he instead has tried to slow the growth of oil and gas production in this country and coal production. so far from taking credit he should be hanging his head and taking a little bit of the blame for what's going on today. bill: that is only 36 hours after he beat santorum by 3 points in michigan. what's he talking about? >> he's talking about obama there. that's very specific. but again what he's trying to do, i think, in that scenario and he tried this right in the aftermath of michigan, rise above the rest of the republican field and make it out he many the one ready to take on president obama. play to this strength in the polls. the republican candidate best positioned to challenge president obama. i don't think that mitigates to

the jury we are speaking to this morning the idea that he's also whenever he can throwing an elbow in rick santorum's side. enjoy the, it's springlike here. they are talking about cherry blossoms this month. that will be early. bill: take a picture and bring it up to new york. we'll see you monday. martha: there are big changes that may be coming your way on your cell phone plan. why your unlimited plan just got a whole lot more limited and what it may cost you. bill: students in chardon, ohio trying to get back to normal. honoring a coach who is now being hailed as a hero. >> he charged at him. that the most courageous thing i have ever seen anyone do. >> we need adults willing to do

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martha: classes are resuming today at chardon high school which was the scene of the deadly school shooting we covered this monday. a basketball game had been set for monday night. that was the day the shooting happened. so they postponed it. they played that game last night. and what a remarkable scene it was. watch this. boy, just look at that young man. what an an emotional moment for this school as they try to pull together everything that has been lost to them in these three young students who were just

senselessly murdered in their midst. they sang their alma matre at the end of the game as they tried to pull together as a group. we are hearing from the hero coach. the more we hear about this man's story and how inspiring he has been to the families and these children as they try to cope with what's going on. he truly prevented the carnage from being much, much worse. julie banderas is in our newsroom right now. tell us more. >> reporter: you can see by that video, and you didn't have to be there to see what an emotional night it was for chardon high school and the players who played for their friend who died before a cheering section louder than ever heard before. even the opposing team wore shirts in support of the rivals who have been through so much this week. as the game ended a flood of emotions as some players were in

tears. but as students gathered at this basketball game was the assistant football coach who was everyone's mind. student credit frank hall with chasing t.j. lane as he began shooting student. they say the coach charged and yelled. he says' no hero. >> the families, i prayed with them, i wiped their tears, and i know god was with them. i'm not a hero. but i'm a football coach and study hall teacher. the first responders who came to our aid that day, they are the heroes. >> no mat wear he said everybody will look at him as a hero for what he did that day. >> reporter: teachers, the

administration, parents in the will all be there to support him. martha: those children and families will never forget what that man did to support them, even after that heroic moment. turn your attention to t.j. lane. what's next for him? >> reporter: yesterday in juvenile court he was charged with 3 counts of aggravated murder, two counts of attempted aggravated murder and one count of felonious assault. he admitted to taking a .22 pistol and knife to chardon high school and firing at a group of student sitting at a cafeteria table. today marks the start of memorial services for the students. one student who was hurt remains

in serious condition, another was released from the hospital. martha: your hearts go out to those families as they try to mend what happened this week. thank you so much. bill: 27 minutes past the hour. vice president joe biden said we screwed up, but then we fixed it. but is the contraception battle over? martha: a high speed chase right by the planes on the tarmac of an airport. wait until you hear what this buy was up to, folks. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.

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of danger. they allowed the americans, including sam lahood, the son of transportation secretary ray lahood to come home. but the lingering damage still exists. >> certainly what was so frustrating was to hear these people who are only trying to build democracy. they weren't there to make money. he were just trying to help them build democracy. >> we remain concerned about the prosecution of ngos in egypt and the ultimate outcome of the legal process and we'll keep working with the egyptian government on these issues. >> reporter: senator lindsey graham says the allegation that they were involved in espionage was offensive and without merit. bill: does this jeopardize the aid money?

>> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton warned $1.3 billion in military aid and $250 million in economic aid is in jeopardy. the court case against the no democracy groups is not over so that aid remains on hold. the incident point out the fragility of the democracy movement in egypt saying the military leaders are using the same dictatorial tactics as hosni mubarak. martha: it's a mea culpa of some sorts by vice president joe biden. he says the administration screwed up. >> what is happening now is that

we have [inaudible] hard to set up, security up in the first iteration is that any -- martha: he's saying it got fixed in the first iteration those catholic bishops will not agree with that interpretation. they are calling it an attack on religious freedom and they are not happy with the white house's compromise plan. good morning, good to see you today. i want to take this from the broader perspective with both of you. brad, is it wise that in the middle of this gop nomination process we are sort of splitting

hairs and talking about the issue of contraception at a time when we have a federal debt of $15 trillion? is this a wise place for this conversation to be? >> it is not, but the white house picked this fight with the biggest super pac in the united states, the catholic church. they are well organized and they vote. it should all be about the economy. but they are ruling out of ideology. we have seen it with healthcare, the stimulus bill, immigration. it's one issue after another where they are not dealing with the root cause of what's ailing america which is joblessness and debt. martha: when you look at the primary process what are you seeing about how this is resonating. >> i see a republican party moving way outside the mainstream of america, and i see moderate republicans like oh

limb ia snow -- olympia snow deciding to retire rather than deal with the rubio amendment. americans are past the point of wanting their employers involved in their healthcare choices. even if their employer is the pope. >> you picked the fight. you can't blame the republicans. it's your administration who decided to take on this issue. we are reacting to a federal mandate which violated the separation of church and state. martha: joe biden and bill daly both advised the president this would be a hornet's nest. >> it worked to our advantage. martha: it may be. >> it made the republican primarily far to the right for most americans. martha: one thing that strikes

me, maybe the discussion should be more about should the government be paying for anyone's contraception? is that a personal responsibility in or is that a mandate? is that something that is due everybody. does everyone deserve to have contraception coverage? and if that's the case, are condoms in this plan? is it could comprehensive plan to have government coverage all contraception. is that central to the role of big government perhaps? >> absolutely. but this is the modus open ran ran -- operandi of this president. we'll see i think the supreme court deal with this issue in june which will be a tremendous setback for a president who put all this marbles on healthcare. martha: when everybody is going to get healthcare and the government is going to make sure

it' covered. you will have the church stand and say you can't ask us not to be catholic. >> the insurance providers they get their coverage from would rather pay for birth control and other things. it reduces healthcare costs and they will gladly give to it their subscribers. the catholic church doesn't have to pay for it. the catholic church eventually come around on issues where they are wrong. >> they are not going to come around. they don't have to come around. martha: you can debate that all day long. but they don't come around. >> they do come around. ask galileo. the world is round according to the pope. >> you just set an example of you telling the catholic church what they should be believing in, what they should be

preaching. >> 98% of their parishioners use birth control. >> that's not the issue. martha: to crisp point, i think this has become mitt cally difficult for the gop contenders because it's become about this and not about what many americans wish it were about. >> they lost the chance to take the senate. they are going to lose maine, they are going to lose some other moderate states because of this issue. rubio's career as a vice presidential nominee is over. martha: save the tape on that one. thanks, guys. bill: in a moment, brand-new polling numbers for the republican nomination. only days away from the all-important super tuesday. will one candidate break away from the pack? some republicans argue the white

house wants higher gas prices and wants it for a specific reason. >> to undertake policies that will drive up the cost of oil and gasoline, and because of their hope that we'll somehow live a world where only wind turbines and solar panels are necessary. martha: why the secretary of energy says he deserves high marks on how he has handled gas prices. wake up! that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. for half the calories plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.

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martha: these are some of the stories developing right now in america's newsroom. france is the latest country to close its embassy in syria. the u.n. saying they are alarmed by reports of execution-style killings in the city of homs. the coast guard say they recovered the body of two

crewmen from a helicopter crash in mobile bay. prince harry is on a tour of belise. he's set to visit the bahamas and jamaica. good time to do that during the queen's second jubilee celebration. it's 60 years on the thrown. >> i follow the queen and twitter. she picked a good country. beautiful. bill: republicans on the hill and many americans furious when they heard the energy secretary steven chu says lowering energy prices is not overall goal of this administration. >> i do not want to raise the

price of gasoline, i want to lower the price of gasoline. >> when asked whether your overall goal was to lower the price of gasoline, you said no. do you want to retract what you said yesterday? >> we have much want to not only slow the price but we verse the price -- increase in gasoline. if one reads my entire statement, it was very consistent with that. they said in my opening remarks, we definitely feel the pain that every american and every business feels. bill: does that make up for it? is that a redo? congressman allen nunley is a mississippi republic cash on the house appropriations committee. welcome to our program. america's newsroom. are you cool with this now? >> i'm not surprised. they are doing exactly what they

told us they would do. the secretary of energy before he was put in office said we need to find a way to get gas prices in america up to european levels. right now that'sst -- that's $8 in europe. the president said out of necessity electric rates will skyrocket. bill: do you think the secretary wednesday was misinterpreted. he said we are work on bringing gas prices down. do you believe that? >> in my question i said i can't judge motivations. what i have to do is look at results. result under this administration is the price of gas at the pimp has doubled. that's a particularly cruel tax on the people i represent in mississippi. they are trying to drive and get back and forth to work.

and the prospect of $8 a gallon gasoline like they have in europe makes them afraid. bill: why don't we try to get at the motivations here. i know you have thoughts on this. er on hatch was talking about that this week. i'll ask you a specific question after you listen to this from the senator. >> the president is putting the preferred lifestyle policies of wealthy urbanites ahead of blue collar workers and middle class americans. president obama traded in the lunch bucket americans for a fedora and latte. bill: the implication is the white house is play together rich environmentalists. is there proof of that? >> you have to look at what happened the last three years of this administration.

they used a lot of political capital to get cap and trade passed through the house of representatives. they weren't doing anything they didn't tell us they were going to be doing. they got that past the house. the results since then, the price of gas has doubled. they restricted drilling in the kufl. they restricted drilling on federal lands. the result is we are not capturing american energy. bill: we are showing our viewers images of the price at the pump while you are talking. with all the pressure brought on by keystone and a few of the concessions made on that pipeline at the minor level. would you expect a complete reversal of the keystone pipeline under this administration? >> i would hope the administration would revisit keystone. i don't look to that anytime soon. so far what we heard is a

short-term band-aid approach, release oil from the strategic petroleum energy reserve. god help us if we have a serious natural disaster and we depleted that reserve. bill: thank you for your time, sir. here is martha. martha: there is a high-takes meeting set for the oval office. president obama will sit down with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and at the top of the agenda is what kind of warning if any israel would give the united states if they were to go after iran's nuclear facilities. bill: how's this for a road trip. we'll go under the sea. as far and deep as you can go. ♪ somewhere beyond the sea [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego.

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bill: this was one wild police chase that did not take place on the highway. this was at the airport. the driver said to be drunk when he crushed his jeep through a fence. drove down an active runway. air traffic controllers held off all the flights take off and landing. >> we have a rogue vehicle on the airport. >> roger, going around. >> are you okay if we pull off the runway in case he comes at us? bill: the driver faces charges for driving under the influence,

reckless endangerment, resisting arrest. >> it's the most beautiful thing i have ever seen. martha: those are scenes from the movie "the abyss." they are work on a one-person success -- submersible that will go 7 miles glow the surface. when you think about going 7 miles into space and compare that to 7 miles below the ocean. i find that idea fascinating. how would this work? >> it's a remarkable submarine. it's exotic and high-tech

materials it's a main challenge to resist the pressure. when you get down to 7 miles beneath the surface of the ocean the pressure is 16,000 pound per square inch. imagine a large elephant standing on a postage stamp. martha: where would it be going? what area of the underworld, and has it ever been tried before? >> this is the mariana trench. it runs north-south by guam and japan. it's been explored by humans once in history. in 1960 the u.s. navy sent two guys down and they spent 20 minutes on the bottom and came back up. that's the only time we have had human beings down at the bottom. it's more unexplored than the moon is. martha: part of our own earth

and this area we know so little about. how far away are we from seeing this happen? >> there is a good chance it will happen this year. virgin oceanic hopes to get down there by the end of the year. they are racing another team. james cameron who directed movies like "avatar" and "the abyss," he's also building a one-person sub. he says he may be testing it in the mariana trench this month. martha: you have got to love these guys. it's pretty cool. thanks for turning us onto the whole idea. bill: if you are ready for a big dplaing your smartphone, the new unlimited plan that's not so unlimited after all. yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol.

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martha: well, this is being called a critical moment in the nuclear standoff with iran. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu will meet with president obama at the white house amid the toughest talk that we have heard from the president about the rogue islamic republic and that's how we start this hour of ""america's newsroom"". good to have you with us, i'm martha mccall. bill: i'm bill hemmer, the president saying he intends to draw, quote, sharp lines referring to israel, and a good will approach with iran. martha: ed henry joins us live from the white house. so ed, it seems that the president is going a bit further in the way he's speaking about this than he has in the past. >> reporter: sure martha, this is an exclusive interview he did with the atlantic magazine just being published this morning. the president is blunter than before, no doubt about it. he has said some of this before. he has said all military options are on the table in terms of u.s. military options in dealing with iran

in trying to prevent them from getting nuclear weapons. the injureient question ask whether or not israel believes that and believes whether this is talk or believes there will actually be u.s. action behind that. the question is whether israel is going to act unilaterally. if they do not believe the u.s. will act, to try to prevent iran from getting nuclear weapons, this is of course also all about timing. on monday, prime minister netanyahu will be at the white house for face to face meetings with president obama. they've had tough relations before. also on sunday the president will attack apac, israeli public affairs committee at their annual conference and the prime minister has said he wants the president to draw red lines about what iran has to do, otherwise, this will happen militarily, so maybe the president in this interview is previewing some of the red lines, martha. martha: we've seen benjamin netanyahu basically lecture the president in the white house environment in the past. i want to pull up that quote that you referred to. it was from an interview

with the atlantic. and they recognize that as president of the united states, i don't bluff. and then he goes on to say, it is unacceptable for iran to have a nuclear weapon. we mean what we say. as you point out, the big question is whether that means militarily or tougher sanctions or exactly what actions the president plans to take in regard to that. >> reporter: absolutely. that's why this is so critical, the timing of it, coming before the president's speech on sunday here in washington but also that face to face with the prime minister on monday. you can bet the prime minister is watching the speech closely on sunday, going to be measuring the president's words in private in the oval office on monday as well to see whether or not there's going to be action behind this. critics of the president, like ambassador john bolton from the right have said look, there's only one of two options here. john bolton has said either iran is going to get nuclear weapons or someone is going to stop them militarily, either the u.s. or israel. the president in this interview repeats there's a

third way, that sanctions are crippling iran right now and maybe they'll make the strategic decision it's in their self-interest to stop this nuclear program. martha: no doubt this could become a front and center issue in the general election period heading into november. so ed, we thank you very much. ed henry. >> >> reporter: you're welcome. bill: meanwhile the president reacting at this fundraising event when a heckler pleaded not to invade or start a war with iran. listen carefully: >> we apologize about that. that's when something does not go technically correct. wee try again in a moment. you can see the words on the bottom of your screen. as the plea came from the back of the room, mr. obama quieting that person down, then saying that no one is going to war here was his comment, defending his foreign policy. his national security record will now weaken the line of attack from republicans come

campaign 2012. martha: and breaking this morning in pakistan, a suicide bomber targeting a rival group of militants, killing 23 people, the bombing happened in the shirah valley region close to the border with afghanistan, the commander of the taliban is claiming responsibility for that attack. bill: now getting this word from at&t. putting the brakes on some of its biggest smartphone users. the country's second biggest wireless carrier, telling customers they will see slower speeds if they exceed a new monthly tap on how much data they use. ashley webster, fox business network, live in our newsroom in new york. we all use one, ashley. >> reporter: we certainly do, bill. bill: what does this mean for the average customer? >> >> reporter: it's going to impact some 17 million customers and basically at&t is pulling the plug on its all you can eat data plans. in fact they did away with it several years ago, but there are still many people on the so-called unemployment dollars plans.

what happened is for the smartphone users on 3g, if they exceed three gigabytes of data, which apparently with the phones that are like mini computers, it's not hard to do, your download speed will be slowed down considerably. speeds will be slowed down for 4g users after five gigabytes of data. they will get a warning message, a text message when you get close to that cap on the data storage. essentially carriers are not happy that they've been spending billions of dollars on building up these networks, but a lot of the profits go to internet companies like google and the device makers like apple. now they want to get their slice of the pie. bill: i bet they do. what are the options for a consumer? >> reporter: several things. obviously the first one, you can they say use wi-fi connection, that means you're not accessing at&t's network, so that will save data for you, you can actually just put up the slower speeds once you can, once you've peed dollars the monthly limit. you could also switch to one

of at&t's tiered data plans. that's exactly what they want you to do. that could be up to $30 a month on the three gigabyte the and $50 a month on the five gigabytes and you could simply switch to carrier sprint, the only carrier that offers unlimited plans. verizon doesn't, t-mobile also imposes data caps, by the way, t-mobile doesn't even carry the iphone. it's all about the money, bill. bill you're right about that. go wi-fi! it's spreading all across this country. thank you ashley. >> reporter: thank you. martha: we have got brand new polls to take a look at in the race for the republican nomination. we are just a few days away from supertuesday now, 400 delegates are at stake on that very big day in this process and mitt romney is taking the lead nationally in these polls over the gop field, but take a look at the gallup poll, romney takes 35 percent of the support, followed by rick santorum, 24 percent, newt

gingrich at 15, ron paul at 11 percent. and here's the rcp average which groups them together, or several of the polls together, romney, 35 percent, santorum, 29, followed by gingrich and paul respectively. here now, fox news contributor ed rollins who has worked on several high profile political campaigns, including the reagan-bush campaign in 1984, also with mike huckabee and michele bachmann. good morning, good to have you here. >> how are you this morning? >> martha: doing well. we started to get the feel for this yesterday. yesterday we had a "rasmussen poll" that looks like mitt romney had done very well indeed in the michigan and arizona races in terms of momentum. what's your take on how the momentum is moving right now? >> there's no question the momentum is moving towards romney. he's had a good solid campaign organization, his win in michigan was gigantic. it was santorum, not his last chance but certainly a critical chance for him to basically turn this race around and he failed to do that. a close race, but it was his failure as opposed to anything romney did himself.

so i think the momentum going into supertuesday is all romney at this point in time. martha: what specifically, ed, do you think has hurt santorum who had tremendous momentum going into michigan? >> he's off track on his message. he's talking about a variety of things that people don't care about at this point in time or it's a very small, nay are narrow base that cares about them. he needs to be talking about the economy, jobs. he's perfectly positioned to do that. when you start getting off on some of the more social issues, you're going to start losing some of the blue collar democrats, which he obviously did in michigan. martha: you think there's a measure of glee in the white house among democrats that republicans are finding themselves battling over things like contraception and mired in conversations that perhaps should not be front burner right now? >> well, obviously when the country wants to talk about jobs and the economy and you're talking about things that are important to some voters but not the vast majority like contraceptionives i think they have to northbound a good position. i don't think they can basically get overconfident here, if they do, they'll basically suffer the

consequences, but they're pretty smart people and there's nothing that i've seen that basically shows that there's not going to be a very close election in the fall. martha: ohio has been resistent to mitt romney. do you see that changing? what is the biggest thing that you want to watch for tuesday or the biggest surprise or potential outcome that you're going to be watch something. >> well, this is a big opportunity for both gingrich to get back in the race, winning his home state and when he fails to do that, he's gone, if santorum does not win ohio, there's no place else that he's going to make a big impact, so if romney wins ohio and wins virginia and wins some other places, he's pretty much on his way, without making the convention -- without making the convention speeches and dropping the balloons. i think people are seeing the inevitability that he's talked about is coming to the forefront for two reasons: one, if he does have the organization he can compete in ten states at one time, where everyone else is targeted in one or two. i think that's a big difference. martha: ed, we always love

your insights. good to see you. see you soon. >> thank you. bill: i'm expecting a surprise! we'll see. breaking news on the severe storm system developing in the ohio river valley, this screen left is a shot of a darkening sky in nashville, tennessee and screen right is the radar system. the storm prediction center, issuing a high risk alert for the same area that was ripped apart by deadly tornado, only 36 hours ago. we'll watch nashville, we'll go up the ohio river valley into places like cincinnati, forecasters predicting large hail and damaging winds, possibly violent tornadoes. so keep a close eye on this throughout the day as that weather pattern continues to collide. martha: a lot out of ohio this morning and we're hearing about a poll dog fight in ohio, where rit rom -- mitt romney may be looking over his shoulder in the buckeye state. we're going to talk about that. bill: health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius says if we just had fewer babies we could pay

for health care. is that what she said? >> the reduction in the number of pregnancies is -- compensates for the cost of contraception. >> bill: well, that sparked a heated exchange with our next guest, this man here. congressman and doctor tim murphy took issue with that. we'll ask him about that in a moment. martha: and a bank heist in broad daylight, folks. watch this video. how this brazen thief clearly underestimated the local s. w. a.t. team. stick around. we'll show you what happened. we'll be right back. we're america's natural gas

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martha: there were fire works inside a hearing on this hot issue of contraception coverage. health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius, being grilled on how the feds plan to pay for government mandated birth control coverage for all women. watch. >> who will pay for it? there's no such thing as a free service.

>> the reduction in a number of pregnancies is -- compensates for the cost of contraception. >> but wi not having babies born we're saving money? i just want to get this on the record ms. chairman, you're saying by not having babies born we're going to save money in health care? >> providing contraception as a critical preventive health benefit for women and for their children reduces health -- >> not having babies born is a critical benefit. this is absolutely amazing to me. i yield back. martha: tense moment there between kathleen sebelius and the gentleman who you see on the screen here, republican tim murphy is a doctor and the person questioning her moments ago. good morning, congressman, good to have you here. >> good morning. martha: what got you so fired nup that exchange? >> for the longest time, i couldn't understand after weeks of this hanging on, where religious institutions in this country were saying don't mandate that we do something that is against our faith principles. the 5d managers -- the

administration wouldn't do it. they did offer services for free, which is a distinction without a difference, and i couldn't understand why the administration is pushing this. well then i undersphood it. when secretary sebelius said that pregnancy is basically an expense and that means by not having to pay for prenationallal care, not having to pay for delivery and pediatric costs of raising a child they figured it could save money and it baffled me how we were going to expect to have to pay for health care by not having babies. i thought that was one of the points of providing health care for women. and quite frankly, it doesn't make sense financially, and it certainly is an offense to the faiths that all along were trying to bring this up. martha: it comes down to this, perhaps. she's arguing it's sort of a general welfare issue and she believes that everyone should pay for this coverage, you know, for the greater good of everyone, and that the fewer babies that are born, more contraception that's out there and fewer babies that are born, overall the cost

for health care will be lower across the board, and that's one of the missions of the health care reform is to put a lid on health care costs overall, right? >> well, that's what she thinks, but according to reimbursement intelligence and online survey of 15 pharmacy benefit representatives who represent 100 million employees, 50 percent of them actually said it would increase costs, 30 percent said they didn't know, and 20 percent said they thought it would remain the same, so this idea may not be borne out in the actual numbers and you know, quite frankly, if it did save health care dollars why did insurance companies provide it as a free service in the first place. martha: is there a slippery slope in terms of government infringing on peoples' decisions to have children? you think about the way things are in china, and no one is suggesting that that's where we're headed here, but i give that as the most extreme example in terms of the suggestions that might be made for lowering the cost of health care overall. open question. >> well, it has to do with what is being raised by the

independent payment advisory board and making decisions about what is paid for and what is not. what the administration has now laid out, it will be making decisions in terms of what is going to cost money and you're absolutely right raiseing this question which others have raised, what comes next. if churches and religious institutions are saying they are very concerned about heading down this road, the morning after pill and others paying for that, what comes next? what do we do with people who are very ill, terminal -- termally ill people, developmentally disabled children? it raises those fundamental questions. i'm not suggesting the administration is pushing those directions, but it does continue down that road, which is one of the reasons why so many church officials are deeply concerned about it. martha: understood. i go back to that issue of whether or not contraception in general is a personal responsibility or whether it's a general welfare issue that all americans need to pay into to cover for each other, and i just put that out there as something for people to think about and decide how they feel about it.

congressman and doctor tim murphy, always good to see you, sir, thank you very much. >> thank you very much. bill: with 19 minutes past the hour. what happened when your doctor is the patient? and a patient in need? do doctors die differently? we're going to talk to a member of our fox news medical a team to answer that for us. interesting study. martha: plus, this man, many believe, should have died in this situation. how a base jumper survived a 600-foot drop after doing what he should never do. packing his parachute the wrong way. flush sometimes bad things happen up there and it's one of those cases. >> it was getting kind of tough. my light was dimming on me. so trying to find batteries and that kind of stuff while you're dangling from 600 feet of rope makes it a little interesting. when i grow up,

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martha: well, some bizarre video from north korea this morning shows armed soldiers threatening to kill the president of south korea. watch this. >> state tv in pyongyang released this video, the soldiers expressessing their anger after accusations that south korea's military wrote critical remarks below portraits of north korean leaders. that gives you an indication of what the tensions are like between those two countries. bill: 23 minutes past. when the doctor is the patient, when your doctor is the patient, does the doctor choose to die differently? these end of life decisions need to be made, and doctors know better than anyone what your quality of life could be, and in turn what their quality of life could be. what is surprising not how much treatment they receive, but how little. dr. marc siegl, member. fox news medical a team took a look at this study. good morning to gliew good

morning. bill: is the premise true, do you agree with this? >> i do. there was a study in 2003 that showed 65 percent of doctors actually make advance directives, where they say this is what i would want and they tell their families, and only 20 percent of the general public do that. i agree with that main idea. but let me say it in a different way. doctors are in the know. we know what happens, bill, we know what the statistics are, we know if we're going to recover from something or whether we're not and my favorite question that everyone out there should ask their doctor is what would you do if you were me. what would you do if you were me. what would you do if you were my parent. that's what i want to be asked. bill: ask your doctor what you would do in my circumstance. >> theat. bill: why? >> have a doctor that answers that honestly. you need a doctor who will tell you. that's how you get your guidance. because doctors are thinking that all the time, well, this patient has a kind of cancer they can't recover from and the statistics are x, y and z and this is what i would do. there's another study that shows that doctors are bound by their faith, bill.

that's another important part of this. you need to know if your doctor is religious. bill: meaning what? >> if your doctor is religious u. he may say to you i want to give up because i don't believe ethically i should give up so you have to honor that. if you're religious, you want to know if your physician is. in other words, what is he guided by, is it the idea that he loves technology, he or she believes technology is going to save you or is he or she bound by faith? what i'm most concerned about here is the public is getting the wrong information from television, and i don't mean a show like -- >> bill: what? >> they watch house h -- md, e.r., or it shows everybody recovering from cpr, everybody gets pounded on the chest and suddenly the next day they're going home. bill: or swimming in the pool and hanging out. >> studies show seven a's of the time on tv, they recover. in the real world, it's 8 percent. we doctors snow that. we know people don't come back. bill: i saw the story and read the study and i thought you know, if i'm 80 years old, what my quality of life will be. but i don't.

and since you know it what my quality of life will be, you choose option b. >> well, yes. but i want to add in the religious part. bill, i can see the future better than my patients can and i have to be honest with them but i'm also a religious person and i believe it's in god's hands, so i factor that in, too. you got to know what your doctor's faith is and you got to know what his belief in technology is, but having said that, you have to know what he thinks the chances are. what are the probabilities here. bill: i think the takeaway is a good one, ask your doctor, if you were me, what would you do. thank you, doctor. marc siegl. martha: how many times the doctor says they're going to live for three months and they live for three years? >> that's got to be factored in, too. martha: that as well. lawmakers demanding answers. are taxpayers really footing the bill, and footing is in play here because we're talking about a soccer field. you're not going to believe how much this will cost, for the detainees at gitmo!

>> bill: come on! >> martha: they're looking for a new soccer field in my town. how about that? >> bill: the battle is on, a tight race between romney and santorum. there are brand new polls to share with you, and these are fascinating. how critical is ohio? listen: >> rick santorum is a nice guy. but he's an economic light weight. he doesn't understand what it takes to make an economy work on a personal basis. and so i'm asking for your vote. i'm going to get your questions in a moment but i'm asking for your vote right now. i want to have your help. i want ohio in my column. i need your delegates. this mio energy is completely crushing my game.

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bill: got a fox news alert rmt you're going to hear about this throughout the day. new tornado watches and warnings in parts of the southeast, janice dean has it in the weather center. where are they? >> reporter: a watch just issued for eastern tennessee and parts of alabama. this is actually ahead of the main event that we're really going to start to see fire probably late this afternoon into this evening. so watch in effect until 3:00 p.m. central time. this is a thunderstorm watch here for parts of illinois and missouri, in towards indiana, but more concerning right now is we have a tornado warning just north of the huntsville area. it looks like we have another tornado warning, possibly towards the kentucky region, and we'll get to that in a moment. but watches mean the conditions are favorable for tornadoes. warnings meaning we are seeing some strong rotation on doppler radar or trained weather spotters.

again, this is just ahead of what's going to be perhaps a very destructive, long lasting tornadic event. here's our severe weather ingredients, we've got the slight risk for much of the southeast across the ohio river valley, tennessee river valley, our moderate risks are in the red, then a high risk area, something that they rarely issue unless they are completely certainry -- we are going to see long lasting, destructive tornadoes, louisville, lexington, nashville, tennessee, you're within that area of high risk. back to you bill. bill: so northern alabama, tornado warning, which is different from a watch, because that means one has been spotted or is on the ground. >> reporter: that's right. bill: if you're in that area, heed that warning. janice, thank you. we'll get back to you in a moment, okay? >> reporter: you bet. martha: well, lawmakers are wanting some answers today, following a fox news report on a new soccer field being built at guantanamo bay. you heard me right. it costs american taxpayers nearly $750,000.

that is some soccer field! right? >> chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins me from washington, digging into this. catherine, a lot of questions on this one. >> reporter: there are, good morning. since we broke the story of the gitmo soccer field on fox we know of four congressional queries about the project that cost nearly $750,000. a military source at the navy base confirmed to fox that a staffer with senate appropriations has contacted the defense department, two congressmen want to know why the money was approved, and there was this exchange at the budget hearing on wednesday, at the same hearing, secretary panetta defended the plan to increase health care fees to the military. >> i've had my constituent contact me today about a news item, did you know that apparently our federal taxpayers are paying for a $750,000 soccer field at gitmo. is that something that the department of defense knew about, orioo. >> i'm sorry, what was that? >> a $750,000 soccer field

at gitmo that was just announced by the department of defense. is that something you were aware of. >> no, i wasn't. >> reporter: in at least one case the congressman is calling for the defense budget to be cut by about $750,000. the exact amount spent on the soccer field, martha. martha: i mean, enough said! you know, this soccer field, is this a normal price for a soccer field, 3/4 of a million dollars? >> what weapon told by the military is it always costs more to build on the island because they have to ship everything in and they also confirmed this is the largest construct project going on right now with the navy base. we are also told that from their perspective it made sense because it encouraged good behavior by the detainees and it reduced the amount of direct contact between the detainees and the guards. in addition, we were told that most of the detainees were wesly -- were recently moved from a large open care camp to a new camp. let's listen: >> what the colder here was trying to do was make sure we continue to maintain the same standards that we've always had here, and

recognizing, again, that when the detainees move from four to six, this was one of -- again, this was the first new camp, this was one of the things that the detainees enjoyed the most was the large recreation area. >> reporter: well, there are two key takeaways here. number one is the price. what i was told down at the base is that anything over $749,000 needs congressional approval. this project was actually $744,000. you can decide whether that is a coincidence or not. the second thing, and i think the most important, is that as recently as last fall, the attorney general said they plan to close gitmo and a soccer field is just more evidence that in fact they plan to be holding detainees there really for the long term martha. martha: boy. this story is incredible on a lot of levels. >> it is. martha: catherine, it truly is. and as long as they enjoy that recreation, as she pointed out, i guess that's the most important thing. catherine, thank you very much. >> >> reporter: you're welcome. martha: send me a tweet about this, folks, at martha mccall. what a story that is,

$750,000. because they enjoy the recreation at the new facility, and that's important. bill: go figure. countdown is on to supertuesday, 419 delegates at stake in ten states but the hottest battle might be ohio. brand new polling numbers show that rick santorum clings to a lead with 35 percent, mitt romney at 31 percent. newt gingrich at 17, ron paul at 12. that is ohio specifically. gail gitcho is communications director for mitt romney, out of boston. how you doing, gail, and good morning. >> bill, good morning. bill: based on that polling, you've got work to do. what do you think of those numbers? >> well, we do, but this is exactly what we saw going into michigan, governor romney was significantly down, then when he went into michigan and he campaigned, and he shared his message, his progrowth message of creating jobs and shrinking government and cutting spending, he ended up winning, and i think we'll see the same thing in ohio. governor romney was there yesterday and he'll be there

again tonight and tomorrow and he'll be sharing his message of restoring america's promise and creating jobs, shrinking government and cutting spending. bill the other three guys -- and will ultimately win. bill: the other three guys, what they'll say is the only reason you were able to watch somebody like rick santorum in michigan was because of the amount of money spend on -- on the ads and the advertise mens. there's a number in ohio specifically that the romney team has spent $3.9 million in ohioan santorum and gingrich combined have spent $1.6 million. so you've got them by half. is that the only way to win in places like michigan and ohio? >> oh, of course not. a lot of it depends on the candidate's message, and governor romney's message certainly has resonated, not only in those states, michigan and ohio, but if you go back and look at florida and you look at arizona, where he won in double digits, we had a very good showing there and that was because of his message, his progrowth message. the republicans, according to exit poll data, they look at governor romney is the

only chance that we could take back the white house, and they also look at him as the only one who's really able to turn the economy around, based on his background and his experience in the private sector. bill: well, cents -- >> that's a big difference between him and his opponents. >> bill: those will be the arguments we're going to hear about over the weekend, and folks in ohio will decide tuesday and there will be drama like there was this past tuesday night. the former bill clinton had a suggestion for governor romney about the auto bailout. he was suggesting that if his father were here today, the former governor of michigan, that he would be turning over in his grave based on his policy. ann romney was on fox a bit earlier with gretchen karlson and was asked about that. i want to get your reaction after we hear this. >> sure. >> mitt's father would be cheering and would be with mitt100 percent, because what mitt suggested, finally what happened, is that they went to a structured bankruptcy. it's exactly what ended up happening. mitt has said to do that

before they already spent $17 billion. so no, mitt's father would be cheering. cheering with mitt. bill: how is the campaign handling that? or was that the message that we just heard? >> ann is exactly right, mrs. romney is exactly right, governor romney's father would have been cheering for governor romney's position on the auto bailout, which is ultimately what had happened, so if the administration would have listened to those suggestions in the first place, then the taxpayers wouldn't have been out those billions of dollars. ann romney is exactly right. bill: gail, thank you for your time, hope you have a good weekend. we're looking forward to tuesday. who knows what will happen then, out of boston. >> thank you bill. martha: it was a dramatic end to a hostage situation in one state, as a bank robber held the manager at gunpoint. see the spotlight there on what was happening on the ground. the amazing conclusion, when the s. w. a.t. team came in, you will not believe what happened. we're going to show that to you after this break. bill: that is something else, too. and fannie and freddie

are asking for more money, putting taxpayers on the hook for billions. where is all that money going? >> martha: good question! bill: eric bolling is on the case. i think he has a white board. in three minutes, you'll see it.

bill: scary scene out of california where a hostage takedown just two officers. watch this, videotape from a helicopter, a s. w. a.t. team storming a bank. police say the suspect was holding a gun to the bank manager. the gunman described as a man in his 40s, taken down, removed from inside. he and two officers were rushed to a local hospital. the takedown was successful, but no word yet on their condition. martha: all right, this has been getting my attention

lately, folks. get ready to fork over more of your taxpayer cash, because fannie mae it in the hole for $4.5 billion now the mortgage giant is going back to the u.s. government for yet another bailout. this is the largest bailout in the history of this financial debacle and eric bolling is the perfect person to bring in to ask about this, fox business network and of course from "the five". eric, when i heard this, they're going back to the till for $4.6 million, we already gave them $150 billion, including very nice pay packages for the executives who ran this thing into the ground, they left unscathed and with no investigation into what they did, and now, they're saying it could go to $259 billion. think about $800 million, in the billion dollars stimulus package and what kind of chunk 259 is of that. >> part of the problem is, can you get this white board, 2009, obviously, this

is fannie mae, $32 billion, things looked better, $7 billion, and oh, maybe things are turning around? look at 2011, $16.4 billion. if you add the two of, so far fannie and freddie have taken $150 billion. together you've got the number you pointed out, a quarter of a trillion dollars. that's taxpayer money. here's why. what the government did, right before the bailouts, they made fannie mae and freddie mac government-sponsored entities, basically saying the government had a say in everything that they do. then, they said hey wall street banks, you got bad assets on the books. i'll tell you what we'll do, throw them into fannie and freddie, we'll let the taxpayer hang on to that for you, then the thought was they were saving the wall street banking system. meanwhile, here we are, three years down the road, and the numbers keep churning and 4.5 or $4.6 billion, martha, was for the last quarter. not for the year. for the last quarter. there could be another $100 billion.

now, these are big numbers. we watch president obama yesterday talk about oil company loopholes, $4 billion, which is by the way, their own money already. he's talking about a $4 billion loophole closure. how about the two # $50 billion that these companies owe the taxpayers? >> martha: what caught my eye, i read an article in the paper the other day about how the doj is opening new investigations into hedge fund managers, and you know, cooking the books and making things look like they're not insider trading and all of that. fine. but why is it that this entity was never investigated, the people who ran this into the ground, never investigated, so the doj is spending a lot of this time now investigating hedge funds but they never will look at the folks who let this happen at fannie mae and freddie mac? the blame has always gone to wall street, no blame whatsoever within the government entities. >> not saying they should be looking into it, they should be looking into hedge fund insider trading because frankly that's going on. they'll take care of it, put

people away. martha: but you've got to treat everybody the same. >> fannie mae and freddie mac had executives who right before the financial meltdown walked away with literally hundreds of millions of dollars in bonus money. martha: that's right. >> they were given a hand shake. martha: great job, guys, see you later. >> you really have to say, were they doing their job right, did they lake on loans. the problem is, here's what the obama administration thinks, that fannie and freddie will be the holder of last resort. in other words if you can't get a loan from a financial institution, go to them, you'll get the house you want. that's the mentality of the obama administration, everyone should have a home, or a house. >> martha: that's -- >> it's exacerbated under this administration. in fact, the reason why this $250 billion will probably be low, it could be $300 billion, is because people are not only failing, or default, they're foreclosuring but also refinancing. all these government-issued refinancings, martha, that costs the taxpayer a lot of money. martha: absolutely. we got to go.

>> before we go -- >> martha: thank you! that's a cool hat for the weekend, "the five", is that a new show? >> hot new show, check it out! hemmer, don't look at me like you don't know what "the five" is! martha: it's called "the five" apparently. bill: like give me five! >> five people, at 5:00, on this network! bill: show is on fire, by the way. well done. so were nasa computers hacked? wait until you hear who is being blamed for that. a 600-foot high cliff and your parachute is on backwards. why one base jumper should not be alive today. very terrifying. i was very thankful that i knew the rescuers were doing everything they could to get me down.

martha: we want to get this map back up again for you, because we have reports of damage now in northern alabama, after severe storms moved through that area. right now we have warnings in place in parts of tennessee and parts of alabama. so watch these very closely. they are putting out warnings that if you are in this area, you need to be prepared, with blankets, things to cover up, shelters to get into. very serious watches and warnings in effect right now. we'll keep you updated as we get more. bill: unfortunately i think that's going to be the story throughout the afternoon and evening. if you pack your parachute backwards and jump off a 600-foot cliff you may not be here today but apparently heaven was not ready for this guy, age 38, a guy who survived, his name is sam baker and today he's alive to tell an amazing story about survival. roll this. >> i had a lot of time up there to think about things, and i just love life, and

i'm glad that all these guys could get me down safely. >> the man is very blessed to have handed -- landed where he did. he landed in a very good spot. i went down that entire ledge and there was not a better spot for him. bill: he should buy a lottery ticket orioo tom lunger, an experienced base jumper with the sky frogs out of tallahassee, tom, good morning, how are new. >> good morning, sir, doing well, how about new. >> bill: fine, thank you. this guy was jumping superstition mountain just east of phoenix and his chute got caught on the side of the cliff and he was hanging there seven hours, but you have made 3800 base jumps, all over the world. >> that's right. bill: right? >> i've made 3800 total jumps. most of them are sky dives. i made 330 base jumps. bill: still a pretty good number! so 330 base jumps. what is the thrill of this, tom? >> it's exhilarating. there is nothing in the world like standing on the edge and knowing that it might be the last thing you

ever do on the planet. bill: the last thing. >> it really, it brings all of your focus, it requires all of your skill, dedication, and daring. it is a very good challenge. bill: what is the danger here? for you, if you do not have a backup chute? or do you? >> no. when we base jump, we jump with just one parachute. when you sky dive, you take two parachutes, you have a lot more time, you're jumping in a wide open area, you're landing over top of an open area, you have, just, you know, a lot more margin for error. on a base jump you only have one parachute and a limited amount of time to make it work properly. sam packed his parachute correctly and what a parachute deploys all we need is air and time for it to inflate but occasionally if there's wind or body position or just a freak occurrence it can open up and instead of flying away from the mountain it can fly towards the object.

i've had that happen before, and if you're lucky and you got some wind in your face, you can grab hold of the toggles, back it up and fly it away from the object. unfortunately in this case, it was a cliff base, so there was no wind to keep him from flying towards it too quickly and the line twist prevented him from turning it. bill: this is a massive adrenaline rush for guys like you. i mean, that's what you get out of it, i assume, right? >> yes, sir. it's self-actualzation, taking human achievement and pushing your skills and abilities right up to the point and there are some times where i've backed off a jump, i've showed up and either something is not right or i'm not feeling 100 percent, then we climb down. bill: i hope we talk again someday and i hope it's for the right reasons, okay? i hope everything goes cool for you, all right? thank you tom. >> thank you for having me on. bill: you bet. martha: living on the edge. not for me. not in that way! >> for some, it is not their first rodeo. these young cowboys, going for the ride of their lives.

look at shedown of these kids! we'll be right back. >> i was like freaking out, was like hanging on the side! ♪

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