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expert behind the camera says he's going to the titans. we'll see. thank you for joining us. jenna: "america live" starts right now. megyn: fox news alert on president obama's re-election campaign ramping up the fundraising as new questions come up about the campaign's cash-flow. well tomorrow to live live on a friday, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the president stepping up his fundraising now as his campaign burns through some serious dough before a g.o.p. nominee has even been chosen. we are awaiting the president's remarks at a campaign event in his adopted hometown of chicago. it is the first of two events that he will do there, then he will attend another three fundraisers in atlanta tonight. he has held 103 fundraisers in under one year. that amounts to about one every three days. as of today he will have done 12 this month, averaging about one a day. chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politicsed tore and host of power play on foxnews.com.
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he is increasing at a serious rate his fundraising efforts, and at the same time, chris, we are being told that his burn rate on the cash is unusually high. he's going through -- he's already spent 25% of what he raised in the second quarter of 2011. compare that with what president bush was burning at this point in his re-election effort. which was only 9%. 25% to 9% burn rate. how do you plai explain it stph-frpblgts you explain it this way, th. >> reporter: you explain it this way, the president is building an expensive base, an expensive operation, if they invest in that now they will be able to blow away any republican, or crush any republican who challenges him. the hunger for cash is immense -- megyn: mike emanuel, how are you doing?
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[laughter] megyn: stirewalt is gone. there he is, i see him on the preview. he's back. sometimes you've got to laugh. i love live television. >> reporter: always fun, always fun. megyn: you were saying mr. stirewalt? >> reporter: i was saying that another difference between bush and obama, bush was spending less but he was raising more. he was doing a better job with fewer fund-raisers, his dollar per fund-raiser ratio was higher. obama is really having to hustle to get this money. when you look at things like their campaign video that they just put out that they are calling a documentary, but it's like a 17-minute long campaign commercial, they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars just to to that. everything that they do is gold plated, very expensive and they have aspirations to build an undefeatable juggernaut to take on the republicans in the fall. megyn: how are they going to do that? first it was supposed to be the billion dollar re-election effort. then they said the numbers are overstated. now we learn the burn rate is
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high and the miss is going to fall over he's doing so many campaign events to try to raise funds for the coffers. >> reporter: what they are going to do is try to get the base engaged. democrats aren't taking the republicans that seriously right now. he's going to try to get democrats to believe that he really is vulnerable early so that they can sock away the money to use for later. but, again, what they are talking about, they always think in transformative terms, big terms, game changes, one of the phrases they love, they wanted to do a game change re-election. you heard his rea remarks. they are going to be as aggressive an expensive as possible even if it means like today doing five fundraisers in one day. megyn: you're a handsome man. i don't know if you're as
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handsome as mike emanuel. apparently the control room doesn't think so. thank you, sir. there are things you love about fox news channel, that is one of them. the 17-minute campaign ad on the president's first term was released today, narrated by tom hangs and put together by the director of invent truth. it is called the road we've traveled. here is a clip on the issue of jobs. >> he acted quickly with the recovery act giving help where it was most urgently needed. the country had been hemorrhaging jobs, more than 3.5 million lost in the six months before he took office. middle class jobs and economic security were vanishing. the funding would keep teachers in the classroom, cops on the street, and first responders ready. and for those who were hurting small business incentives, tax cuts for the middle class, and job training.
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megyn: so bottom of the hour we will have our panel debate the road we've traveled. and whether it makes the president look like a great navigator, or if it reminds independent voters just how rough the trip has been. members of congress demanding answers from the department of homeland security over deportation policies. they are asking, why the dhs suddenly stopped deporting some illegal immigrants from alabama not long after the department of justice challenge alabama over its new immigration law. trace gallagher live in our west coast newsroom with more. trace. >> reporter: so, megyn not only is the administration suing alabama over it's anti-immigration law but now the administration is admittedly shortchanging the state when it comes to enforcing existing immigration laws. the deal is secure communities make sure that all fingerprints of those booked into local jails are automatically sent to immigrations and customs enforcement, ice, ice then takes those fingerprints and cross matches them into a federal
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database to make sure they are not illegal immigrants. now, alabama has 37 of its 67 counties already in the secure communities. during a hearing before the house homeland security committee the republican congressman there, mike rogers asked dhs secretary janet napolitano why the rest of the state wasn't in secure communities, and here is what she said. listen. >> given the pendency of the litigations we decided to just hold off on the remaining quarter. i will say, however, that it is our intent to finish completion of secure kphurts by the en communities by the end of this year. >> reporter: in response mike rogers said, i was not satisfied with janet napolitano response to my questioning and demand to know why the obama administration has put the brakes on the security communities program in an election year when it originally touted it as a way to crackdown on illegal immigration. so the feds are planning to wait
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until after the supreme court rules on the arizona law, which is of course the benchmark for both the alabama law and the south carolina law. but here is the thing. arizona, and south carolina all have secure communities implemented throughout the state. when she was asked about that the homeland secretary said, well, it was already done before the lawsuits were filed. now alabama is in-kind of a wait and see mode to see what the supreme court comes out with on the arizona case, megyn. megyn: interesting. trace, thank you. mississippi may become the latest state to pass tough new i will leaguele immigration law. the republican house there approving the support our law enforcement and safe neighborhoods act. the bill now heads to the senate for the final okay. the law would require police to check the immigration status of people they arrest, and it would prohibit illegal immigrants from renewing driver's licenses among other things. fox news alert now just breaking on the news wires we are getting
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reports that the supreme court will not tell vies the healthcare arguments scheduled for later this month, the arguments on the president's healthcare law. this is a huge, huge case. but the associated press is reporting that the court will provide audio on the same day. well that is no big deal, they've done that in big cases before. the big deal is whether they would allow this to be televised. why shouldn't you see what goes on inside the supreme court, it's public. you're able to walk in there if you can get a seat, which is kind of difficult, so people want to see. supreme court justice is say, too bad. virtually all of them oppose it and several lawmakers had pushed them to allow these hearings to be televised, america wants to know and they don't want to just sit there with the audio like it's 1930 but they are going to have to. that is the latest news. new action from congress cracking down on young drivers. the senate approving a measure that urges states to pass touch every laws, everything from a three-stage licensing program to
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anti-texting rules, washington telling the states get tougher on these teen drivers or else. joining us now our own teen driver, peter doosey, not really. he has a baby face but he's not in his teens. how old are the kids before they can get a driver's license. >> reporter: 18. some kids couldn't be driving on their own unrestricted until after they graduate from high school. on the 100 bill dollars transportation bill that the senate passed there is provision that tells states they will get extra grant money, no penalties right now but extra grant money if they set up a graduated licensing program with minimum standards which means teens need a learners permit, an intermediate permit not before age 16. they can get a driver's license at age 18 but that is not all. their night driving would be restricted, they can't have more than one passenger who is under 21, and shouldn't even think
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about using a cellphone unless it's an emergency and some sets can set exemptions. at least one insurance company already says they think it is great. all state says car crashers are the leading cause of death for young drivers. this is a bi-partisan issue that affects american families across the country. and i just spoke to aaa, they like this too, but they say in a few states, a few dozen states, rather, maybe 40 basically anywhere except the northeast the minimum driving age here is going to be a big issue especially in rural areas. expect some major push back at the state level if this even becomes a law because it faces an uphill battle in the house just because that you are transportation bill right now is a mess. something that is interesting that aaa told me there have been some elements of these licensing programs in all 50 states since 1996, the feds just want it to be stricter in all 50. megyn. megyn: thank you, sir. bell both republicans and democrats are today arguing over the president.
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yesterday mocking those who are spec ca spectacle about his green energy policies. >> if some of these folks were aeu hroupb when columbus se were around when columbus set sale. [laughter] >> they must have been founding members of the planet earth society. they would not have believed that the world was round. megyn: next we break down the facts on solar power, wind power and why we won't be able to get off oil any time soon. plus, some creepy surveillance video shows what happens when a divorce lawyer goes the extra mile for his client. first, breaking into her ex-husband's apartment to get her stuff, then consoling her as she deals with her grief, holding her close, and, wait with, what is he doing? the whole story just ahead. >> i need a hug. i need a hug. i need some relaxation.
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megyn: new controvert controversy after the president mocks some of his opponents of his green energy initiatives, comparing them to people who believed the world was flat before christopher columbus set sail. >> they have been talking down new sources of energy, they dismissed wind power, solar power, they make jokes about bio fuels. they were against rating fuel standards. i guess they like tkpwaz guzzlers, they think that is good for our future. we are trying to move toward the future, they want to be stuck in the past. we've heard this kind of thinking before. let me tell you something, if some of these folks were around when columbus seat sail they
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must have been founding members of the planet earth society. they would not have believed that the world was round. [applause] megyn: joining me now eric bolling, cohost of the 5 right here on fnc. solar, wind what is the answer? if you are opposed to those then you are a member of the flat earth society? >> it's amazing that president obama has resort towed name calling but he has to. they have no answers. megyn: they do, solar, wind, renewable energy. >> reporter: they aren't producing any, any, i mean the increase in subsidies to solar, wind, geothermal, bio fuels like alskwraoerbgs go ahead, knock yourself out, spend millions of dollars, they are not producing the fuels we need to put in our cars and homes. megyn: what percentage of energy is produced by solar or wind in our homes. >> reporter: i don't have the
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exact percentage, i tell you it's probably under 5%. if you had a solar wind, geothermal -- the three big alternatives, it probably is less than 5% of our total energy use. look at it this way, under -- can i show you this. megyn: i love props. >> reporter: under president obama the price of gasoline has gone -- these are the numbers, i mean you can listen to the pundits speak, these are the actual numbers. when he was sworn in it was $1.83. megyn: why is he mocking newt gingrich when he says he could get it down to $2.50. >> reporter: i can. i have one answer that could bring it down a dollar over night it's $2 a gallon higher than when he took office. we use 138 billion-gallons of gasoline a year. 276 bill dollars a year i billion dollars a year is coming out of people's pocket. it doesn't matter if you're
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rich, middle class or door it hurts you equally. megyn: wrist the money going, like a tax. >> reporter: it is in effect a tax, a higher price of economy. it's coming out of the economy. 65 to 70% number goes to the crude oil price, which means more than half of that is being shipped directly overseas to middle eastern sheiks that frankly don't like us. megyn: he keeps saying, look, he knows that we are still oil dependent but he's trying -- i said before it's when the parent -- they know the kid will only eat the stuff that is bad for him, the kid loves to have a sugary snack or dessert and the parents just trying to introduce the broccoli, just try it, try a little, it's better for you. >> reporter: you mean solar, wind and jeo? megyn: yes. >> reporter: the answer is bringing our gasoline price down. we don't have accrued oil problem. there is plenty of crude oil being produced in the world today. it's flowing right now. the answers are, number one, you need to get one blend, a national blend for gasoline, so it doesn't matter in you're in l.a., chicago.
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megyn: no summer blend, no winter blend. the regulations and restrictions get tougher in the summer. >> reporter: he says there is no secret bullet -- silver bullet there is a silver bullet to bring gasoline prices down a buck. i forgot more about energy than steven chu knows. i'll sit down with them and give them the silver bullet. megyn: what is it. >> reporter: they can have it, i'll go to dc. megyn: you're not going to tell us? keep talking you'll put mike emanuel back on in a heartbeat. >> reporter: he'll probably get reelected. megyn: now, not only are people taking obama -- president obama on about his flat earth society thing but guess who else he insulted wrongly? rutherford b. hayes. listen to this. >> one of my predecessors, router ford bhayes reportedly said about the telephone, it's a great invention but who would
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ever want to use one? [laughter] >> that's why he's not on mount rushmore. [laughter] because he's looking backwards, he's not looking forwards. [laughter] megyn: oh, no, oh, no, president hayes wasn't looking backwards says nan card, who is the curator of man scripts at the rutherford b. hayes museum in ohio. >> reporter: what was that comment all about? does that mean president obama is looking for another president's face to be on mount rushmore. megyn: he thinks there is still room up there. >> reporter: do you think there is room. megyn: i don't know time will tell. >> reporter: kick prices down to $2 a gallon maybe you'll get your face on mount rushmore. megyn: you two can could have a meeting like they did in the movie dave, played by charles groden, they had roast beef
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sandwiches, and you could tell everything that he needs to know. >> reporter: i'll settle for a blue moon and a summit. megyn: eric bolling check him out on the 5 tonight. we brought you the breaking news on the supreme court refusing to televise hearings on the healthcare overhaul. just ahead a bigger story as we learn about a major strange in strategy for the administration for the law team that is defending the healthcare law. wait until you hear how they are now planning on arguing this case. have they significantly helped or hurt their chances of winning this crucial battle? plus, a michigan lawyer and his two sons were hurt when someone blew up his car in a remote control blast so powerful it was heard a mile away. up next the chilling new details on this attack. >> it was mayhem within side the car. we were all dazed, and some screaming that was occurring, but i had noticed that there were flames that were coming up on both my side, and then the side on the passenger side.
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heads up, folks, we mentioned the president's fundraising efforts at the top of our hour. president obama right now speak at a campaign event in his adopted hom hometown of chicago. it's the first of five campaign events today. if you'd like to see his speech in its entirety it is streaming live on we foxnews.com. new clues today in an unsolved car bombing in michigan. do you remember this story? here is the video from last fall. a homemade bomb exploding, an attorney's car engulfed in flames. he and his two young sons barely escaping. now new evidence suggests that the bomber may have known the
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two children were in the car. trace gallagher has more. trace. >> reporter: an investigators now say this bomb was placed in a way to inflict as much damage as possible. it also had shrapnel in it to try an increase how lethal this thing was. the investigators say they believe this was actually built using parts from remote controlled cars and trucks, and that it may have been triggered by one of the remote control devices, and that is very key, because those remote controls have a very limited range, so the bomber had to be in close proximity to the car and would likely have known that eric shapel had his two young sons in the car with him. remember this 911 call by shape. >> 911. >> we had a bad accident. my car blew up with two kids. you've been called already. i'm telling you what is going on with the boys. i've got two significant leg injuries, they are bleeding, i need someone here now.
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>> reporter: clearly you see the car errupted into a fireball, there you can see it burned all the way down to the metal frame. for the first time eric shapel is speaking out publicly. here is on good morning america. >> it was mayhem within inside the carment we were all dazed, and some screaming that was occurring. but i had noticed that there were flames that were coming up on both my side, and then the side on the passenger side. >> reporter: he believes he knows what is behind the bombing he, he won't say so publicly. atf has doubled the reward amount leading to an arrest. they say the suspect clearly would have known a lot about electronics, about radio control, about metal workings and would have had some private kwraeur that he could actually build the bomb. we should also note as you look at these pictures the two chapell boys, megyn have now fully recovered, as has eric chapell. megyn: was that the case where the 191 operator came under fi
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911 operator came under fire for the apathetic tone. >> reporter: remember he kept saying, i need help, i need help and there was this long 911 call. there was some criticism. never any action taken against the dispatcher but yes criticism as to the dispatch and the response wasn't as quick as it should have been. megyn: a 17-minute political ad for president obama costing $20,000 a minute to produce. who exactly is the president trying to sell? who is going to watch this. and what exactly do you make of the claims that are in it? our panel debates. plus, drama ace building in the "desperate housewives" court case. why revenge may be within reach for one of the women from wisteria lane. the jury is having a tough time, folks. we'll update you in "kelly's court." and oliver north has been to calm leatherneck in afghanistan
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jo a couple of developing stories we are watching for you this afternoon. new numbers out today show the big jump in gas prices is driving consumer prices up too. the government saying the consumer price index rose 4 tenths of a percent. guilty on all counts for a former rutgers university student. a jury convicting him for using a web cam to spy on his roommate's sexual encounter with another man. his roommate later committed suicide. ravi could get years in prison and even be deported since he was born in india. president obama's re-election team just releasing its full 17-minute documentary called "the road we traveled." it is narrated by hollywood superstar tom hanks, apparently cost over $20,000 per minute of the production, the video meant to highlight the president's
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successes. between the stimulus, bailouts and healthcare critics are arguing it just reminds voters of how bad things have been. check it out. >> he acted quickly with the recovery act, giving help where it was most urgently needed. the country had been hemorrhaging jobs, more than 3.5 million lost in the six months before he took office. middle class jobs and economic security were vanishing. the funding would keep teachers in the classroom, cops on the street, and first responders ready. and for those who were hurting, small business incentives, tax cuts for the middle class, and job training. building bridges, highways, and infrastructure, laying the groundwork for a new economy and restoring the possibility of growth. megyn: joining me now alan colmes the host of the alan colmes show and mike gallagher who is a syndicated radio host
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and a fox news contributor. all right, so let me start with you on this. mike. a documentary is supposed to be a factual recitation of events. you could make the case that this is, but they normally include everything. this has none of the shortfalls, none of the president's failures. it is accurately termed a documentary. >> reporter: it's a 17-minute campaign commercial. i have to say i sure liked tom hanks so much better when he was saying stupid is as stupid does. oh, for the days of tom hanks reading the script and sticking to the dialogue. this is a taste of what we are going to be up against, the hollywood machine is going to be in full throttle mode on behalf of barack obama. look, i think republicans like me can do one of two things, we can either go attack the material of the 17-minute propaganda film documentary like this or we can try to fight fire with fire and urge our side to do exactly the same thing. there are a lot of solid
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conservative filmmakers in hollywood. they are kind of under the radar, but they are there. they ought to make the same kind of device and use the same machines. megyn: who is going to go see the 17-minute documentary, alan and who would see a republican rebuttal. >> good patriotic americans would see it. megyn: really? maybe it's because i'm a mother of two kids under three. going to the movies would be such a luxury never mind seeing a 17 minutes of a political documentary. >> this is what happens in political seasons. look, you say they spent $20,000 a minute. this cost $345,000 to make compared to on super tuesday alone collectively republicans spent $12 million on ads. this is no different than an ad. narratives of this kind of film making for a narrative for a presidential campaign goes all the way back to dwight eisenhower. this is what is done. republicans he free to do the same thing. they are creating a narrative to get their message out, the same thing that a republican, you know, in the world of free speech has a right to do.
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go do it. megyn: does it accurately portray the president's time in office, mike? because. >> reporter: no. megyn: there is a peace in there -- obviously it helps the property because it is made by his supporters. there is a piece in there talking about the president getting the healthcare passed. i want to show the viewers how they describe those americans who opposed the healthcare law. [chanting] >> but he faced a fierce opposition, hostile to compromise. >> it will be a cold day in hell before he socializess my country. >> after months of negotiation it was unclear whether he could get the necessary votes. some advised him to settle [chanting kill the bill ] megyn: it goes on from there. i ask you, mike is that fair, a fierce opposition that was
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hostile to compromise and a man standing up and saying, it will be a cold day in hell before they socialize my country. >> reporter: it's not fair if you're like me and love and embrace the tea party. he's preaching to the choir. to a lot of liberal democrats the tea party is the enemy and these guys are awful, destructive anti-american forces. the bigger question i think too, megyn and you're touching on it is whether or not this wins over people who maybe on the fence. i don't know how it does. they do this movie at their own peril. number one your risk reminding people of really the condition of the economy as people are spending 80, $90 to fill up a gas tank and we know how many challenges we have, and number two do people on the fence who are kind of ambivalent about the tea party movement like to see the tea party movement demon iced like this. i don't think so. that to me is the big question. megyn: they did choose more of the extreme moments from the opposition to healthcare law. there were people who were saying what that guy was saying. >> reporter: people did say --
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megyn: does that alienate the people? if you look at the statistics the polls more than the majority of the country still oppose this law. are they going to take issue of being characterized like that. >> reporter: many of the people who are opposed to the law are progressives who wanted a single payment or release of public option. to say a number of people are he 0 posed to the law is true, they are accurately representing parts of the opposition. those people aren't going to vote for the president any way. so you're not alien kwraeuting people who would otherwise vote for the president. the people who think that way are never going to vote democratic. megyn: another piece of the ad talks about the president's bailout of die troeut and he tells what he did there. and he goes after mitt romney and his opposition which is interesting in and of itself that he goes after romney, doesn't mention the other guys. i want to show the viewers a little bit much that. >> he decided to intervene. in an exchange for help the president would demand action. the bush administration had given the car companies $13 billion, and the money was
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now gone. megyn: and president clinton is featured prominently throughout this. that will be a big issue in this campaign, and they are already seeing this as a way to differentiate between president bush and mitt romney. >> reporter: if this movie and obama's strategy is to blame -- lay the blame for everything at negotiate bush's doorstep that is going to backfire because the american people are smart enough to know that a lot of the mindset that led to the bailout, that's been continued by the obama administration and everybody knows it. and so i think that falls flat to try to blame everything on george bush. >> reporter: the president turned the economy around. look at the stock market today, look at it every day. look at the jobs coming back. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. have 25, 26 months of job grow
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growth. megyn: they say that right now it's going to be on the pam pain website and there are no plans to screen it at a large number of commercial locations but that could change. so alan you may get your wish, owe you could see it for free at your computer terminal. >> reporter: stupid is as stupid does. megyn: see you. recent polls show one nation divided over that healthcare law we were just discussion. now just days before the supreme court takes up this case it's about to happen, folks, we are hearing that there has been a significant change of strategy for the administration, for the lawyers who are defending this law. we are not just hearing it, i can tell you for a fact it is true, they are shifting their defense, and we will tell you how and what it means right after the break. and torn apart by a twister. dramatic video, look at these skies coming into the fox newsroom of a rare winter tornado, updates from this scene and where the recovery effort stands right now. [ woman ] my boyfriend and i were going on vacation,
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megyn: big, big developments today in the legal battle over the president's healthcare law. ten days before president obama's signature legislative achievement goes before the u.s. supreme court there is a major change in how the white house is defending this law. we are going to talk about it and we're going to ask, does this new strategy help or hurt the law's chances of surviving. joining me now, john tphrapb reformer federal prosecute irfor the southern district of new york. and special counsel for the senate and house judiciary. and hapbs. most folks haven't had the legal experience you folks have had. can you complain, i'll start with you on this hans how the administration is shifting? before we were hearing the commerce clause, the administration could pass this individual mandate if it touches
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on commerce we are allowed to regulate it, therefore the mandate is constitutional. now, how are they shifting? >> it's not so much that they are shifting, they are emphasizing the necessary and proper clause more, but in fact they've been making that argument since the very first briefs that they filed in this case. megyn: okay, hold on because the necessary and proper laws is part of our constitution that gives congress the power to, you explain it hans. >> it comes at the end of clause 8 which outlines all the specific and enumerated powers that congress has. then it says congress can basically do what is necessary and proper to carry out those enumerated powers. now the administration is trying to read this as some kind of extra clause that gives them many additional powers. it's not. it's simply there to say that congress can do what they need to to carry out the specific powers they are given. if they don't have the power --
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this they don't have the power under the commerce clause that doesn't help them. megyn: here is the thing that is interesting to me, john. they use this now saying we had to pass the mandate, that is an important piece of the legislation, it's necessary and proper and they argue how it's indispensable to the healthcare law. now they are saying, it is necessary, the individual mandate is a necessary part of the healthcare law, but is it proper? you have to prove that it's both necessary and proper, meaning it's constitutionally authorized. >> i don't think it's very heavy lifting. i'm glad to hear that hans and i agree on the structure. congress has certain powers, the power to tax and regulate interstate commerce and to provide for the general welfare, that is the tripod, if you will, the shamrock on st. paddy's day, that is the shamrock of power that they then seek to exercise as necessary and proper. anything they have to do that is necessary and proper to protect the welfare to tax, or to regulate commerce is appropriate. medicare is a good example.
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we've had it and some would say it comes under the taxing powers, some would say it comes under the general welfare power. insurance, health insurance i is interstate commerce. i won't get into the legal argument,. megyn: let's not get too deep in the weeds. megyn let me ask you about this hans, do you think it helps the law's chances, hurts the law's chances or doesn't change their chances at all. >> john is confusing and running together the word necessary and proper. look it might be necessary for congress to regulate insurance policies and have certain standards for them, but that doesn't make it proper for them to tell individual americans think then have to buy that product. the two of them doesn't go together. i don't think that helps them at all in getting this done. megyn: as the it stands now look
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at this supreme court as it now sits, what do you think the odds are of them upholding this law? >> i think it's very high, because if they throw this out all of the legislation we've had going back to the 40s, that has to do with the general wael fair and interstate commerce and so forth, all of it is at issue. and i just don't think they are going to do that. i think that they are going to uphold it. i think there is very good reason to uphold it and i question the motives of anybody who challenge it. i think it's a first year law class that says this is fine and okay and the powers of congress and the president to sign such a bill cover all of this. megyn: the speculation is that they changed the argument, they are more emphasizing necessary and proper to appeal to justice scalia based on opinions he's written in the past. do you agree with john that the court as it now sits is likely to uphold this law? >> no, i don't agree with that at all. and i think the reasoning that the 11th circuit held when it
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threw out the individual mandate is something the court will look at very closely and i believe they are going to follow that. >> we pay medicare ever week and that is mandated. megyn: i have to go. disappointed that they are not going to allow tv cameras in the court for this. john. >> i think they should. i always thought that about the supreme court. i'm 1st amendment. megyn: amen, hans do you agree with that? >> no i don't. >> get rid of hans. megyn: we've got to go. thank you guys. >> good to see you. megyn: fox news alert on a story breaking right now. we are just learning that documents found at osama bin laden's compound in pakistan show that he directed operatives to kill president obama and general david petraeus. we will go live to washington for the details in just a bit. and up next, some very creepy surveillance video shows what happens when a divorce lawyer goes a little too far in defending his client.
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megyn: now tow an eye-opening story involving some new rereleased surveillance tape that reveals why a divorce lawyer got sentenced to jail. the video shows the attorney hammering on the front door of his client's estranged husband's home and then helping her break in, and that's when things got really interesting. trace gallagher has more, trace. >> reporter: this guy was actually the president of the county bar association, megyn and there was a court order clearly placed on the window saying the wife had to get permission to get inside the house. well, as you saw the lawyer didn't really want to wait. listen. [sound of hammering ] >> reporter: he decided to go
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and light up a significance remember. the husband comes out and gets this his car. when he gets in the car, and the lawyer decides he's going to come over and confront the husband. so he walks over, he pounds on the window, and the husband finally decides he's going to roll down the window, and when he does listen to this very interesting little back and forth, the husband backs out a little bit, now he stops to roll down the window. >> camera number one, camera number two. >> reporter: number two as the lawyer mocks them. there really was a camera one and camera two and then the lawyer decides to go in the back and bust down the back door to get inside the house, right? so he breaks down the back door, i think we have that, breaks down the back door, boom, there it is. busts open the back door, he and the wife then go inside and at this point, megyn he decides for some reason when he gets inside the house that he needs a hug from the wife. so he hugs his client, the ex-wife or estranged wife and then they bring in several other
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people and they start packing up all this stuff in the house. ha they don't pack up, well they just decide to knock over. they finally decide to leave and here is the final exchange between the husband and the lawyer. >> you're trespassing. >> really? >> yeah, really. >> wow, you should call 911 right now. >> oh, i did. and by the way, you just destroyed private property. papers were in my window. >> wow, destroyed private property. >> reporter: there you have it. by the way he did call the cops, the cops showed up and arrested him. 30 days in jail, and a $5,000 fine for the lawyer. megyn: most people can't even get their lawyers to return their phone calls, it's unbelievable. that's what i call zell just advocacy, not really over zealous. oliver north has traveled to camp leatherneck in afghanistan dozen of times. he knows the marines there very well. he joins us live and the story behind the disarming of our own marines ahead of a speech by the sp*ebg of defense this wee
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we're there when you need us. megyn: a fox news alert on this terrorist who was once the most wanted man in the world. i'm megyn kelly. u.s. officials are reviewing documents that show usama bin laden targeted president obama and general petraeus. bin laden reportedly saying at one point that the reason for concentrating on president obama was because, quote, killing him automatically will make vice president joe biden take over the president. and the terror leader went on to say, quote, biden is totally unprepared for that post. end quote. we'll have a live report with
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our chief intelligence correspondents moments away. another fox news alert. new stories of survival are surfacing after a series of tornadoes ripped two small towns to shreds. mother nature leaving a 10-mile path of destruction. winds topping 135 miles an hour, downing power lines, trees, sparking fires and floods. >> oh, my god! megyn: meteorologists believe up to 3 funnel clouds touched down. many families have no choice but to stay in shelters as emergency crews assess the damage. >> i could hear the noise, i
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could hear the freight train. view around don't have enough time to prior kiss yourself good-bye. you just sit there and wait and hope you will be there at the end. megyn: trace gallagher live in our west coast newsroom with more. >> reporter: when the local sheriff arrived he says he saw a hand reaching out of the ke bree. he went over and grabbed that hand and pulled out an elderly man who was able to walk away under his own power. the residents saw three tornadoes touching down all at once. the biggest one was winds of 135 miles per hour. it was on the ground for more than 30 minutes. >> it just kept swirling. it didn't look like the was moving. >> we shut the attorney prayed and held hands. we kept calling our husbands,
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telling them not to come home. >> reporter: 10 miles on the ground, 30 minutes. the lengths of that tornado was a blessing and a curse because it did a great deal of damage but it also allowed for plenty of warning. that's why authorities believe nobody was killed in this. >> i asked if he wanted to get the porch furniture off. then we saw it slide across the patio and i said get in the bathroom. >> by the time it hit i was back here. i was pushing her to get her in the bathroom. i wanted her in here and protected. >> reporter: they say the, they heard the sirens. more than 110 homes as you see here damaged or destroyed. they call dexter tree city, u.s.a. many of those trees are scattered about along with power
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lines. the storm brought severe flooding to parts of michigan. local stores are allowing people store their food and allowing them to have freshwater. no fatalities so far. they are still checking the outlying areas. march tornado outbreaks in michigan are rare. that state has had 13 of them since 1960 which means they occur once every five years. michigan has had five deadly twisters since 1990. last year 11 tornadoes were reported there. that's a total of 1,900 nationwide. now we are on pace for an epic year of deadly twisters. meteorologist janice dean has more on that from our fox weather center. >> look at probability. it's incredible that we saw a tornado we think of ef-3 strength. and that is certainly a rarity to see a tornado that strong
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moving across the great lakes region. typically if we see tornadoes it's over the deep south and the going. there is a tornado around the dinner time hour as the storms began to erupt and move eastward towards the detroit area and there is an arbor and dexter. you can see the cell blowing up around 5-6:00. people had warning, ample time to seek shelter. look at what we are dealing with in terms of numbers. way above average in january. above average in january. we are halfway through the month of march, way above average and we don't typically see the busiest time until may into june. so we have a lot of time to track these storms. unfortunately with the unseasonably warm temperatures, that's one of the main ingredients. we are seeing record-breaking warmth, 81 degrees in chicago. 20-30 to 40 degree above average
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today through tomorrow. so you have got that unstable atmosphere. you have got the fronts moving through and the possibility for tornadoes. unfortunately we have months to go of this tornado season. look at some of these records. d.c.82 degree. really off the charts. 30-40 degree above what we see this time of year. saturday expecting 73. unbelievable. megyn: new fallout to a public exit from goldman sachs. gregg smith wrote pane op-ed in why he was quitting this job. now paul volcker is chiming in, saying smith's letter is a reflection of how the trading culture has changed. he wrote, quote, i believe i have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of
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goldman sachs' culture, its people and its i don't i. i can say it's as toxic as i have seen it. we wanted to ask you what you make of this guy. is he a villian or hero? >> i think he's a villian. you can't take a company of goldman's size that employs 30,000 people and stick to any of the claims this individual. megyn: when you read the op-ed, the folks who work at goldman want one thing above all else, that's to make money. should we runt alert animation? bankers at goldman action would like to make money. it seems like if you want to work for a charitable organization you know not to
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work sat wall street. >> it's okay to make money. his saying that goldman is ripping off the client is not true. you don't get to the size of goldman saxby ripping off clients. this employee who didn't perform. he got to a day where he wanted to write a negative op-ed about his employer. megyn: the left like regulation of wall street. they don't like people like yourself, the 1 percenters. we have seen people taking to the streets to oppose making that money for months now. is this that big a story? >> this is one employee out of 30,000. megyn: how many vice presidents are there at goldman sachs. >> one out of 30,000 want to say
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something bad about goldman sachs. the papers are picking it up because the financial community has a bad name for it. but i don't believe anything -- megyn: in the rank of goldman sachs where does this guy fall? >> he's probably the lowest on the totem pole. megyn: how does this get made into a major story. you have a middle-level employee who leaves, how does this wind up in the "new york times" getting this much attention. >> it's a sexy story to a news report. with what's going on in the financial services industry they pick it up and want to roll with it. megyn: he talks about an attitude of callously ripping off the clients. is it true just because he writes it in a way that's not that kind to goldman doesn't mean it's false. is it possibly true it's
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something we need to look into, whether one of the nation's biggest, respected banks is basically playing its clients for a bunch of chumps? >> the list of clients span the gamut from high-network individuals, and sovereign nations. they wouldn't be at goldman sachs if soldman action was ripping them off. they would go somewhere else. megyn: is he going to work on wall street again? >> i think he will have a tough time. megyn: if this is what he does when he leaves, are you likely to hire gregg smith? >> that's right. megyn: thank you, sir. we appreciate it. what did you do in "wall street never sleeps." you are a power broker. what do we have? there you are. oh, yeah, we remember you. freight job, thank you very
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much. coming up, the congressional budget office released a new report yesterday saying up to $20 million working americans could lose their healthcare coverage in the next few years. several years. and that's not the whole story. we'll bring you the whole story and talk about president obama's promise if this law became law you could keep your doctor. we'll investigate the truth just i head. the real life trial imitating the tv show as drama build over the firing of one of abc's "desperate housewives." the jury is having a tough time. new fallout after hundreds of u.s. marines in afghanistan are asked to disarm before attending a speech by the american defense secretary. why would they do that? what message are they sending in lieutenant colonel oliver north knows this base an has unique
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>> an unpress don't picture of american soldiers leaving their weapons at the door when listening to a speech by their own secretary of defense. that's the diplomatic equivalent of helicopters on the roof of the embassy. megyn: that was charles krauthammer upset that soldiers were required to disarm before a meet and greet at camp leatherneck in afghanistan. officials tried to down play the highly unusual move as voices
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like krauthammer chimed in. colonel north, thank you for being here. what do you make of it? it's a startling image to see the faces of those marines without their weapons as defense secretary panetta addresses them. >> it's unprecedented. i have been there when officials from the senior level of the united states government have been there. i have never seen anything like this happen before. that includes presidents, former secretaries of defense and congress. it is unprecedented. the story on why it happened has been mixed coming out of the pentagon and various spokesmen. it was either done because of the incidents that occurred just as secretary panetta was landing where a stolen pickup truck crashed and caught on fire. it was sit was done in fairness
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to the afghans who weren't allowed to carry weapons and they never are in those engagements. the bottom line of it is it's emblematic of what happened in this war with this commander-in-chief. the one we hired to promise to win the war no longer wants to. it's clear to me what's gone on right down the hill from where i'm sitting today on pennsylvania avenue, this administration has decided their only strategy is to get out quickly and that is affecting everything else to include events like this today. megyn: describe what it means to a marine when he's told he has to lay down a weapon. >> i have never had an experience like that covering this war for 11 years. megyn: you take your gun with you everywhere in afghanistan. >> all the interviews i have done with you from the various
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bases, all the places i go to cover american troops, they always have their weapons. it's not just americans. the by trish soldiers were told, leave your weapons outside as well. they had to exit the tent, leave guards with their weapons and come back inside. megyn: if this is true they did it because we made the afghans do it, if that is true even though that's not how we have done it in the past, the afghans have always been forced to leave their weapons and the u.s. marines and soldiers have not, is this a new policy? are we likely to see this when the president speaks to the troops or some dignitary speaks to the troops? >> there was a review with the president of the united states and the prime minister of great britain happening in the united states at that very time this event is occurring in afghanistan. all those soldiers, sailors,
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airmen and marines had their weapons. what's important here, megyn is this is emblematic of what's happening in this administration. they are disarming the young americans fighting this war. take away from them the latitude they need to fight and win it because they no longer intend to win. megyn: do you think the morale is hurting among our troops? >> i talked to them the last 24-48 hours. i spent almost the entire day yesterday at the walter reed center. one of the mothers of a severely wounded marine said to me in the aftermath of all we have been covering, i certainly hope my son's sacrifice is not in vain. i have not heard those things from anybody since the vietnam war. megyn: yesterday we wanted to talk to you about this story and we called nut morning and we found out you were going to
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walter reed and you told me i never cancel that, i'm going fn we appreciate you coming on today to talk to us about your views today. see you soon. we are taking your views on it soon. follow me on twitter and let me know what you think@megyn kelly. new documents found at usama bin laden's compound in pakistan. documents show bin laden planned to kill president obama and general petraeus. the congressional budget office predicting up to 20 million americans could lose their coverage at work because of this law. but that's not the full story. we'll take a look at who was most at risk and we'll bring you all sides of this coming up. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep that, too. if you like your healthcare plan you will be able to keep your
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megyn: fox news confirming u.s. officials are reviewing documents that reveal usama bin laden targeted president obama and general petraeus. those document collected about it u.s. seal team back in early may. we first learned of these document last summer. but days the first day they have been shown to a reporter. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge joins us with the questions that's raising. >> reporter: what is worth noting is the timing. earlier this week a filmmaker released a documentary about the obama administration which highlights the strike that took out usama bin laden.
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now "the washington post" columnist david ignatius is reporting on intelligence gathered from the compound. he's emphasizing the bin laden plot targeted general petraeus and president obama. accord towsmght s. officials these plots were not advanced and never seen as anything more than wishful thinking by bin laden. in a news conference with prime minister david cameron the president once again mentioned the takedown in pakistan. >> there is a reason why usama bin laden and his lieutenants are not in a position to execute plots against the united states or great britain.
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>> reporter: a senior administration official told fox that the obama team is working to to declassify these documents and they are trying to do that as quickly as possible. but of course the key question here is going to be the timing of that release and whether it bums up against the election in november. megyn: drama is building in the desperate housewives court case. the jury says it is deadlocked. but the judge ordered them to get back to work. what does this mean? could revenge be in reach for one of the women from wisteria lane? and during the healthcare debate president obama told americans the overhaul posed no threat for people who want to keep their own doctor and their current healthcare plan. from the congressional budget
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megyn: new developments on the big healthcare law. remember how we heard president obama say a lot during the fierce debate over the healthcare overhaul. >> if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor be period. if you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. no one will take it away be no matter what. >> let me be clear, if you like your doctor or healthcare providers you can keep them. if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep that, too. >> first, no matter what you heard, if you like your doctor or healthcare plan you can keep it. >> i said this once or twice but it bears repeating. if you like your currents insurance, you will keep your current insurance. no government takeover. nobody is changing what you have got if you are happy with it. if you like your doctor, you
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will be able to keep your doctor. megyn: well it turns out that may not necessarily be the case. a report just yesterday from the non-partisan congressional budget office find that in a case scenario, 20 million americans could lose their employer-provided coverage. joining us to discuss it be melissa francis. dr. marc siegelle, a professor of medicine at nyu, and bernard whitman is a former pollster for bill clinton. this was the concern, even though he said it's times, it wasn't going to prove to be true. now the cbo has given us a range. they say -- you have got to love the cbo. as many as 20 million americans could lose their coverage or several million americans can gain coverage. >> a lot of people say the number is 3-5 million who had
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employee health coverage won't now. an employer only has so much money they can spend on healthcare. healthcare isn't free. if you are going to mandate more healthcare that money has to come from somewhere. either the employer will pay people lessor lay people off. i spoke to a ceo at the time and he said he would have to lower wages and bonuses to pay for this. another said she will have to make her employees part time or contract players because she can't afford it. it's not free. you have got to pay for it. megyn: worse case scenario 20 million people. every year from 2019 through 2022. dr. siegel. you suggested this would happen at the time. what will that mean? what does the world looks like if those people lose their coverage?
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>> the mckenzie report last year says 30% could loss their coverage and they pointed out 85% of those would probably stay at their jobs. megyn: you can't necessarily quit your job because they take away your healthcare. >> half of doctors are not taking medicaid. if you get shoved onto the state exchanges. you will get to keep insurance if the individual mandate stays in. so you will get subsidized insurance that i might not be able to take in my office or medicaid which i don't take. megyn: it doesn't mean your doctor will participate in that option. >> the idea that you get to keep your doctor has always been not true. and now we are seeing you are not going to get to keep your plan. and the new plan you get i'm probably not going to take. >> let many get the facts straight here. before the healthcare law if an
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employer chose for whatever reason not to offer healthcare, you were out of luck. under this obama-care you will be covered. 30 million people who do not have insurance today will be covered by 2016. megyn: let me say this. there has never been a question people who don't have health insurance will be better off with the new healthcare law. the question is people who have employer-based coverage, are they going to be better off. >> those people who work for employers that decide not to offer health insurance will be covered through the exchanged or medicaid. the cost of the healthcare law has been reduced by $50 billion. megyn: we are not talking about the cost. we are talking about whether that promise we heard president obama make was true or not. he said you will be able to keep your healthcare. >> if you like the healthcare you are getting from your
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employer then you can keep it. he said let me be clear. if you like your insurance you can keep it. it was a lie. >> you think government should force employers to provide healthcare. >> i'm suggesting he was misrepresenting the truth when he said that and we knew that at the time. a lot of these plans will ends up going away. if i have to pay more i'm going to be offering its to fewer people. i only have $100 to spend on healthcare. >> the president will agree that 16 million are getting immediate acai. the other 16 million are not going to end up on employer-based insurance. there is an open mandate to get people at those exchanges. the point i'm making. a lot of the exchanges will have federally subsidized insurance
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coverage which comes out of the taxpayers' pocket. megyn: you claim the cox for this healthcare program has gone down. >> let's talk about the real world. we know the cbo makes wildest mats. i'm shocked to hear republicans laud the cbo. megyn: this is an article on the hill. they are not republicans. >> what happened in romney care. enrollment went up. the on example we have of this playing out in practice ends up adding to the number of individuals being covered unemployer plans. i think we out we ought to see what happens in the real world. megyn: melissa, then doc. >> it seems like the point to drive people to these government-controlled exchanges.
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do you want to be in the government-controlled exchange? >> this is more your point. the economic climate is different than it was in 2006. employers can't afford the health coverage anymore. the draft regulations are making them offer the kind of plans that have loco pays and low deductibles and higher premiums. employers can't afford the kind of insurance -- megyn: we are talking 2019. this is not the too distant future. if my employer drops my health insurance coverage and i'm forced to go on the exchange and maybe four my five existing doctors don't take that insurance or won't service me because i'm on the exchange, where do i go? >> your new doctor will be called an emergency room. >> or if you are a wealthy person you will pay out of pocket and go to that same doctor who doesn't take insurance. we'll end up with a two-teared
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two-teared -- a two-tiered society. >> can we talk about some of the benefits instead of the negative hypotheticals? megyn: no, that's not what our segment is about. bernard. that's not what this segment is about with all due respect. our viewers know what the benefits are of the healthcare law. it will insures a lot of people who need insurance. this segment is whether people who have existing healthcare are going to lose it contrary to the promises that were made. is that true? >> we have to look at what happened in the real world. if we look at massachusetts, that did not take place. megyn: the employers didn't suffer these costs? >> enrollment under employer sponsored care went up. >> it was a different economic
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climate. and the plans under obama-care are expensive because the copays have been gotten rid of. and the other thing -- megyn: in massachusetts they put more of a copay on the individual patient. >> absolutely. megyn: under the president's healthcare it's the company. >> now the premiums are going through the roof. in massachusetts there was a long waiting line for doctors after romney care passed. here is the bottom line. doctors cannot afford to work with this insurance and are not paying us enough to keep our doors open. megyn: there will be some doctors who will take this. he said my new doctor will be the emergency room. but some doctors will take the understand about it exchange. >> but we will see the two-tiered doctors, the great doctors you want to see, they will be paid about it wealthy people. megyn: the president said he has
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been trying to get around the two-tiered system. >> the real answer is that you have to get people closer to paying for what they are serving. the whole idea of insurance where you pay a premium for the year and you go and it cost you nothing to have a baby. that was not sustainable over time. megyn: what do we make of the cbo saying -- you have to love these numbers. this 20 million is the worst case scenario. quote, the law could just as well increase the number of people who have employer based coverage by 3 million. what are the american people to believer? >> the headline was they don't expect significant changes in the number of employers offering insurance. they are estimating things happening 10 years from now. who could have predicted in 1999 that the bottom would fall out
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of the economy in 2008? the answer is we don't know. we have to look at recent models. megyn: there is a guy who advertise on fox who predicted that. he claims he predicted that. >> your doctor may not take the insurance, doctors are not staying in private practice. megyn: i can see him when i go to the emergency room. if only you could make that same guarantee to our millions of viewers. thank you all so much, it's a pleasure. coming up, she was famous for her character's cat fights on desperate housewives. now a dramatic turn in the million dollar showdown between sheridan and the show's creator. >> plaintiff has presented this mysterious witness and a
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visit a local office, or go to libertymutual.com today. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? megyn: desperately deadlocked. a judge telling jurors get back to work. they are split over how to decide wrongful termination lawsuit nicolette sheridan filed against "desperate housewives." the creator of the show claims her demise was scripted all along. she claims he whacked her in the face to show her how a scene was supposed to work. she complained and he retaliated
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by firing her. he claims it decision to can her was made bell before the blow. she is suing for $6 million and the jury may not be able to reach a verdict. joining us jonna spilbor and kill kimberly guilfoyle. sheridan suffer sad blow to her case when they dismissed mark cherry from the case? >> they did. i don't think it's as big a blow as we might believe it to be. basically what she said was there was an assault. he hit her in the head during a rehearsal. the judge said even if he hit you in the head, there aren't any damages. the damages are $1. let's focus on the wrongful termination. megyn: her big money case, the $6 million case is still alive and well, or is it in the jury
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come back after a day and says they are hopelessly deadlocked? >> they have to have 9 jurors agree in order for her to prevail on her wrongful termination claim. apparently someone need convincing. the fact that they sent that note out, they have a specific question as to define what complaints mean. to me i'm surprised. i thought by now this case would have been done and she would not have prevailed. megyn: what does that tell you? her theory is, he smacked me on the set. and i complained and they fired me in retaliation. >> that was their claim that they decided in may. prior to the alleged assault. megyn: the jury wants to know what complain means? >> this says the jury is
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inclined to vote in her favor. it sounds like they have one juror who is hung. i think this looks like she could prevail. if they are able to get that within juror and the judge sort of gives them a little push, where the judge goes back to the jury and goes, no, i don't want a deadlocked jury, we reach verdicts. megyn: it has to be nine either way. nine in favor of sheridan or nine in favor of touchstone. >> right, because this is a civil case. it's not criminal where you need a unanimous verdict. they haven't been deliberating that long. megyn: we have been deliberating for five minutes, can we go home now? this is too hard. let me ask you this.
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even with the message that's been sent after one day of deliberation. you tell me, they are going to settle now, aren't they? >> you think outside the presence of the jury they will try to settle? melling * i think the defendant goes to sheridan and says you are close enough, how much is it going to take? >> it would be a great idea, but i don't see that happening. megyn: kimberly would you advise your client to check? >> >> if you have got a little bit of leverage to show touchstone and abc we have gout on the ropes. she hasn't been able to get a job. i'm sure she can use the cash. why not do it. you retry this again, she can get a jury to say we had enough of this. megyn: it will cost a million bucks to retry the case. coming up. it's no secret google wants to
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megyn: it was a good run. encyclopedia britannica publishing its reference guide for 244 years. now it's fading into history. >> reporter: this doesn't mean the encyclopedia is going the way of the dinosaurs. quite the opposite. they are evolving and adapting to a digital world. all that's gone is the row of leather books in your living
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room. the sales were down dramatically now that every one, can search up things on the web. 2010 they were down to 12,000. online half a million household and 100 million schools were subscribing to britainia today digital services. so from the time the internet was conceived until this transition happened it was inevitable. the people at britannica told us they laid off no one in the process of making this transition. they are reinvesting in other areas. when you get the encyclopedia it can be updated automatically. you don't have to wait for a new version and there is interactive stuff. when i was a kid interactive meant we wrote things inside the encyclopedia and my dad's head would explode.
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megyn: maybe they are cheaper now that they are online. a bobble head doll causing some people to shake their head. whose idea was it to sell this bobble head of president lincoln's assassin. you always have homework, okay? i don't have homework today. it's what's right here is what is most important to me. it's beautiful. ♪ ♪
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>>megyn: and now pulling a popular bobble head off the shelves after receiving complaints. president lincoln's assassin, bobbing his head, holding a pistol, and eversized scowl. some called it "tasteless." the manufacturer say it is meant to be a gift. gift, no more. what do you think ofjf it? let me follow on twitter. just sign yourself up and then "follow," and we can chat in 140 characters or less. have a great weekend,
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