see you next time. >> greta: tonight, donald trump he is here and he is smoking mad at barack obama. donald trump will tell you and obama administration announces changes to contraception rule. is everyone now happy? this controversy is getting hotter. and.... >> thanks for having me. >> greta: oscar winning movie star hauled off to jail. was it something he said the white house dinner two nights ago? we'll tell you what it really was. right now, donald trump. >> nice to talk to you. and interesting exchange between your twitter account and president himself. you refer to the president as

iknoramous and you talked about leaders being dumb and president is getting right into it. he is insulting people, if you disagree with his energy policy you are part of the flat earth society and opponents only help the rich. you have to sort this out for me how do we get above this? >> his energy policy is a complete and total disaster. it's going to lead to higher prices all over the place. i can't even understand how he gets away with saying it with a straight face. his energy policy, there is no energy policy. frankly, we're going to be in worse trouble in two years, three years, four years if this continues. as far as this campaign is concerned, all he does is campaign, that is all he does. he goes on a boeing 747 called air force one, most expensive plane. he travels all over by boeing in order to raise money for his campaign. at some point, somebody should say, how do you do this?

how do you allow a president to use air force one as campaign vehicle. he has millions of dollars of buses he can travel nicely to different destinations. the whole thing is a sham. >> greta: $5.5 million is what he was raising today. when they go to the gas pump but he utah's did have to raise money for the campaign. would you agree to that? >> he can raise money for his campaign but pay for the transportation. $5 million is a lot of money but nothing compared to the cost of a 747 flying over the country. i guarantee you that is much more money than the money he is raising. it's actually costing the taxpayers more money than the amount he is raising for himself. don't you think he should reimburse the taxpayer? >> greta: and campaign does have to pay for that portion which is for campaigning. i think that does have to happen. some people are focused on the

fact the amount of time he is spending campaigning right now. >> he is not reimbursing the real cost. he is reimburse ago fraction of the real cost. if he was reimbursing the real cost he won't be campaigning with a 747, believe me. he is not reimbursing the real cost of travel. with all of the security, with that tremendous plane. he is just reimbursing a certain percentage and it has nothing to do with the actual amount of that certain percentage. >> greta: let me ask you about something vice president biden said. this is what he said yesterday. he said, mitt romney, rick santorum and newt gingrich, these guys have a fundamentally different economic philosophy than we do. our floss at this fi values the workers in success of business and success of company. simply stated we're about

promoting the private sector, they are about protecting the privileged sector. there are no rules and no accountability. what do you say to him about that? >> it's absolutely ridiculous. frankly as far as mitt romney is concerned. he the is the most -- you get into the words free enterprise, there is nobody better than mitt romney. he understands big better than any of them. certainly better than the president and vice president. i think he will end up get the nomination. he shut should get it sooner. >> greta: with the republicans facing, democrats of saying they only care about the rich. >> i think it's ridiculous. look, they don't want tax increases, the republicans. that is good for everybody. they don't want tax increases and they are right. because the economy is so weak right now, it's so fragile, that

if you start giving tax increases on top of this weak economy, you are going to have a major problem, maybe a problem like we had three years ago. so if you look at the republicans and in particular, mitt romney, he doesn't want to see taxes raised. that a good thing, not a bad thing. that has nothing to do with the rich. it has to do with everybody. >> greta: gas prices are soaring and they affect everybody. it's going to be a drag on our economy if the prices continue to go up. are you critical of the president in terms of what he is doing or not doing about gas prices. is there something he could do now? >> i think he did a disastrous statement recently when he essentially said the president of united states has absolutely no power over gas prices. he is totally wrong. if he had whatever it is that ability that you are supposed to have as a leader he would get opec to stop rimming off our country. he would get opec to behave.

would you see a change in places like you wouldn't believe. number two, he would let people drill. he would let people take out the natural gas and the gas and the oil right under our feet in this country. he would have approved the pipeline which we don't need if we allow number two. and let us drill in our country, but to not allow the pipeline from canada not only in terms of bringing the oil, but maybe almost as importantly the jobs. i don't understand politically it would have been great for him. he doesn't allow the pipeline, that is real negative for him. to think that the president actually made the statement last week that the president of the united states doesn't control oil and there is nothing you can do about it, if that is case, we need somebody else. the president, right president could have a huge impact on oil. if they don't get the price of oil and knrn down, we're going to have another depression in

this country like we had three years ago. >> you are critical of this green energy program. look, solyndra has been unmitigated disaster costing taxpayers over $500 million. that was bad investment to begin with. everything about green energy that you don't like or is there some parts that are worthy to pursue. >> right now, green energy is way behind the times. you look at the windmills that are destroying shore lines, it's very poor form of energy. solar hasn't caught on. a solar panel takes 32-year payback. the technology is not there yet. wind farms are hurting. there are a lot of problems with the green energy. i told you the story where a friend of mine moved into a green office building and he freezes in the winter and he is hot in the summer and he is

losing his vision because there is not enough light. give me a break. green energy is wonderful, it sounds great but you need oil and you need natural gas. we have so much natural gas in this country and we're not allowed to get it. we need somebody that knows what he is doing and we need it fast. our energy policy is a total and complete disaster. >> greta: now let's move back to the recent tweet what you said about the president that he is an economic ignoramus. i looked it up. >> if you look what is happening with china. they are eating our lunch and laughing at us like we're stupid people. i have many friends in china. i do a lot of business with china. they can't believe what they are getting away with. china is ripping off this country, manipulating the currency. >> greta: is that any different policy, with bush 43 or the in

terms of clinton? >> as far as bush is concerned, we don't have to get into that. the fact is that china is we are rebuilding china, they are taking so much money. this year they are going to make $350 billion but worse they are taking our jobs, they are manufacturing our products. what they are doing is incredible and they are doing it through brilliant manipulation of their currency. it's a very simple thing. somebody with base you can understanding of business and knowledge would be able to put an end to it so easily. they are worried that china has our debt. trillion dollars of our debt, that is such a small amount to the overall economy. we have power over them. if we stop doing business with china, china would go into a depression the likes you've never seen. so we have all the cards. they don't have the cards. we have a president that doesn't know how to use the cards i

don't think he understands it. >> greta: you've also tweeted that rick santorum is not a team player. are you suggesting he should get out of the race? >> he can't win under any circumstances. he can't get the votes and delegates. mitt romney has the best chance by far of beating obama. i think what is going to happen and if gasoline goes up, when it hits 5 or $6 a gallon, republicans in the form i believe of mitt romney is going to win the election. i don't think it's going to be that close. santorum is a man in pennsylvania lost by the largest amount running for senate largest amount in the history of the modern day senate. i don't think she should be and no knowledge of the economy. he has no knowledge of economics. he has no knowledge of business. >> greta: what about speaker

gingrich. >> excuse me. more importantly he won't get the women's vote. the women will vote against him. gingrich is a friend of mine but it will be hard to win. he is a member of my club in washington. how can i dislike him? the fact is it's a tough road for newt. it's going to be a tough road, but i will never speak negatively because he a friend of mine. >> greta: nice to talk to you. >> birth control fight, obama administration making it's next move in the battle and seeing new changes in the contraception rule. but will these new changes work or will they serve more trouble. malika henderson joins us. and are they changes or explaining? >> it's explaining. the fact they released this on friday we get those, it's like a

document dump and they are hoping, i'll pay attention. they aren't sure about this. this isn't really planned. it looks like they released new guidelines that look at students being covered for contraception. religious institutions having a way to wiggle around the rules. >> greta: is this going to end the dispute? >> no. it is not going to end the disputes. catholic bishops are still not happy with the stance on this. i think it's clear republicans want to make an issue about religious freedom and government and this is giving them a perfect argument health care and encroaching freedom. this is a fright that isn't going away. this is an issue, you've got a situation in arizona where a

legislator there put forward a bill that would make it okay to deny women contraception. at least republicans still think its winning issue for them. >> greta: tell me if i have had right. under the rules the bishops objected to, the catholic institutions would have to pay for the insurance for contraception? >> right. >> greta: under accommodation, president said, they insurance companies would pay for it instead? >> exactly. >> greta: have you found any insurance company that has been so magnanimous, we'll pay for anything. we won't pass the costs on? >> the argument here by paying for this contraception they will not have to pay for unwanted pregnancies and pay for the cost associated with women getting pregnant. >> greta: it's like the pinto,

they would pay all the dead bodies instead of paying the $8 part to make it safer? >> it's not a perfect argument but that is the argument that the white house is making, we'll have to see. >> greta: do they believe the insurance company will sit there and make an analysis, it's cheaper to avoid the unwanted pregnancies than to have the pregnancies? and white house truly believes that the insurance company wouldn't want to gouge everybody else, even the tax paying catholics who won't like it. white house really believes this? >> this is the argument they are making so far. again, i think this is something that is going to drag on. it's going to be in political discussion. i think it gives republicans a real shot in making this argument about health care and about the heavy arm of health care and heavy arm of government raising people's premiums. raising the people's insurance

premiums. >> is there reconciliation between the sides, birth control pills can be used for contraception but other legitimate conditions. would everyone would be happy if the insurance paid for the legitimate medical use of hormone therapy and then the other is paid for by the individual? is that something that would make both sides happy? >> that could, maybe you should send a memo. [ laughter ] >> it doesn't look like they have reached a compromise. >> greta: what has intrigued me a lot of insurance companies, they object about the payment for men like viagra. >> i don't know about viagra.

i think it's free. you but contraception is preventative health care and should be free. >> so if somebody is paying people -- moving right along and bottom line this is not solved. >> it will be on again, i'm sure because it's going continue. >> greta: i hope you do come back. thank you. >> on the record is headed to wisconsin on monday night. we're going to live from the great state of wisconsin. we're going to milwaukee, scott walker is going to join us. he faces an historic recall election. that is coming up in june, of public workers and unions continue to protest against governor walker. one year ago the state passed legislation stripped public workers of their bargaining

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... >> greta: north korea announcing new plans to block a long range rock into space. after they agreed to nuclear concessions, john bolton joins us. >> glad to be here. >> greta: the country was hoping to an inspection for food. >> you rightly said that the state department was stunned today that north korea simply two weeks later had announced it

was going to violate the agreement. all i can say, i'm stunned that the state department is stunned. i know people who have studied north korea's history and concluded in entire history they have never once honored a single agreement they agreed to. why anybody thought they would honor this agreement is stunning. it's equally stunning it only took them two weeks to violate it. >> greta: a number of times, and i think the plan to launch this. they say satellite and it's a peaceful thing. they were going to do it between april 12 and april 16 and they cancelled the trip on me because of this. that happens to be hundred year anniversary of il song.

they are starving. they were really looking forward to this food. this is enormously unfortunate for the people of north korea. this is the north korean government. this is the military and not the people. that is the nature of the regime. if you look at statistics comparing about north korea and south korea. the average north korean is four to six inches taller than the average north korean because of the inadequate diet over decades. when people say we need to appeal to the leadership of north korea to open up so people can have a better life in exchange for giving up a nuclear program, it doesn't fit in that context. >> greta: it's interesting how different the way they look at the world. this is a place that is sealed.

we are still at war with them, they see and i'm so disappointed of this missile launch, i thought it was beginning to feed these people. >> absolutely. in every prior feeding effort, u.s. food, japanese food, other humanitarian agencies, nobody has been able successfully to monitor the distribution of the food to make sure it really goes to the starving civilians of north korea. every time either been diverted or monitors have been blocked from observing. >> what i was told last may, we talked to the people who are part of the world's food organization who met with us. these are the world food people. she said that at the time last may and lots of things happened since may, for the first time to

actually monitor where the food was going. i have no idea if that is remitly happening now. all i know this is a profoundly bad situation for the people of north korea. >> i think it's worse than it has been in the past few years. back in the 1990s it was even worse than it is today. this is the consequence of the kind of society they have there. that is why countries like china and even south korea fear massive flows of refugees if the situation gets worse. i think the u.s. position with china has to be long term solution is reunify the peninsula. >> greta: china is horrible with this. they will never listen to south korea or us but they do trust china. they have been friends. they big celebration, 60-year friendship and china doesn't want all those refugees flowing

over the border. china has done very little to influence the situation. they have a foot on their neck and our income on this and china could really help. >> china could solve the problem. china supplies 80-90% of north korea's energy. that could get their attention. they closed the pipeline and it did get their attention. they supply substantial amounts of food into north korea because they would rather feed the people there. >> greta: it is in china's interest? >> it is. to end the nuclear problem. what they fear reunited north korea will put troops on the river. here is the ironic --. >> greta: they are not going to like nuclear weapons in japan? >> china stated policy they don't want north korea weapons

makes sense but they aren't doing what they need to do to solve the problem. we could make a deal on the american forces in korea. we don't want to be on the river we want to be on the southern tip of river to deploy elsewhere in asia. but china's concerns could be satisfied but neither in the bush or obama administration doing anything. >> greta: is china playing us both ways? >> definitely. the irony what they are doing i think is actually contrary to china's own interests. they say they don't want north korea with nuclear weapons because instability of asia. as long as north korea has weapons it's an incentive for japan and taiwan to get weapons. >> i don't have a sense that the diplomatic part of the north korean government and the military part are on the same

page a at all. >> i think that entirely possible for a couple of reasons. number one i would doubt that the diplomats are clued into what the military is really doing. that is typical for authoritarian societies. diplomats are more effective lying about the position if they don't know what the real facts are. >> greta: you know what is going to happen. they are going to cut off. we're going to send 240,000 tons, that will be cut off. these people are going to starve. worst nightmare for china, get ready china because that is inevitable. these people are on the road to starving. >> i think that is going to happen. that is why we need to have diussions with china. it's going to take time to convince them about reunification. the longer we postpone it the harder it's going to be. >> greta: does anybody believe

it's a communications satellite. >> i'm not sure they could build a communications satellite. this is to test possibly a delivery system for a nuclear weapon and they could be making more progress. >> greta: i don't see they are going back down. they are going to be launch on 100 anniversary. it would be so much interests to back down to get that food, i cannot see them doing that? >> if they wanted to launch the. my on the anniversary of the birth, that is typical of the way they behave, why they didn't wait a month until they got the agreement. >> greta: off at least gotten the food. it upset the state department and upset everything and the north korean people. >> they will suffer. they are the ones suffering the most under this oppressive

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... >> greta: no red carpet and there was no go. george clooney was taken directly to jail. he was handcuffed and arrested outside the sudan embassy in washington, d.c. he a long time activist for sudan and protesting the blockade of food and aid. he and his father and several members of congress were all arrested. later they mobbed clooney. he wanted to draw attention to his cause. >> we're trying to bring attention to ongoing emergency, six week timetable before the rainy season starts and lots of people are going to die from it. our job is trying to bring attention to it. one of those ways was apparently getting arrested. we're not allowed to hang out

the embassy. real danger there are people dying every day. pretty decent number. 34 people were killed in one village alone. about 500 people injured. that is from random bombing of civilians. these are not military targets, these are flying over the tops and opening up their cargo doors and dropping bombs out and new 300 millimeters rockets. so first and foremost, they are immediate danger of that. what is the real looming danger is this -- they are trying to choke these people out and get them to leave. they have lived on the land, oldest society in the world. they are not leaving their land. they are hiding in caves while the bombs go on. in the meantime, they have been able to farm their land. their land and farms were burned.

what we are facing now is hundreds of thousands of people who are looking at the possibility of starvation because the rainy season is coming. when the rainy season comes in six weeks, even when the government of sudan we'll allow aid in it will be too late. >> do you think you did something accomplish something? >> we're trying to bring attention to a moment in time that is actually important. >> how did they treat you in there? >> it was really rough, you can imagine. [ laughter ] >> have you ever been in a cell with these guys? >> is this your first arrest? >> this is my first arrest. thanks for asking, let's hope it is my last. >> greta: george clooney's arrest comes one day after he met with obama about the crisis in sudan. coming up, does it surprise you?

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. >> greta: new plan to give condoms to 12-year-olds. but let's go to our newsroom. attorney for army staff sergeant robert bales is confirming the suspect is the one that killed 16 civilians in afghanistan. the ba flown to us is for trial. >> narrator of 2012 viral video

was detained and hospitalized in san diego. police decided that jason russell needed medical attention after he was running through the streets naked and actinger raisely. his film became an internet sensation. >> i'm elizabeth pran in new york. iem now back to greta van susteren. . >> greta: free condoms for a 12-year-old. sound shocking? the plan could be a reality o in a massachusetts school system. they are considering making condoms available to students as young as 12 years old. the proposal has passed first vote. so why do people think this good idea. peter dugan joins us. >> good evening, greta.

>> greta: tell me is this a program that people are in support of and how did it happen to come about? >> i think it's very mixed right now. that is quite evident with online newspaper, mas live.com. the comments seem to be split. you are very in favor of it or very opposed. it really goes back and forth. it's been going back and forth, very strong comments, long comments. people very upset or not happy but just glad that something is being done. other folks are saying, no, we can't do this. >> greta: has there been an incident or series of incidentss that have provoked a discussion to include 12-year-olds in this? >> they wanted to have it in high schools, starting so young, they wanted it in the middle schools, too. they figured out that is

12-year-olds and up. that 12-year-old age is what really caused a lot of stir in our area. >> greta: as i understand it, there is a discussion, parents could opt in for the children but now the way it's drafted parents will have to specifically opt out. if you are parent that doesn't want this, you are busy and work and didn't know this was happening. it's gained so much attention in the community. that it's automatic unless you opt out? >> yes. one of the school committee members for quite sometime in a subcommittee meeting argued that parents should sign permission for the child to get the condoms. the supporters said you are not going to get all these parents to sign in. so we're going to assume that they are okay with it unless they opt out, deny permission

for their children to have condoms. >> greta: committee is the committee of six that were for this. 5-1, there was very little dissent? >> a couple members that ended up voting for it had reservations about it. one of them, no, all parents should sign in or consent for their children, but then she came around and agreed with it. another committee member said, it might be personally against his own beliefs but he thought it was for the best interests of students. so after quite a lengthy discussion, it was 5-1. >> greta: do any of people on this committee have 12-year-old children in the school? >> i don't know to it will you the truth. they are different ages, middle-aged and older.

the mayor, he is the chairman of the school committee and he does have younger children. he was in favor of it. >> greta: peter, thank you. we'll be watching this story. i'm suspicious this one is going to get pretty heated. >> thank you. >> straight ahead the search is on for a stolen bunny in new york city. latest on the bunny napping. that is next. @? buy one spectrum by lg, and get one free ?

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>> reporter:. >> greta: something you might want to know before you vote in november but both political parties would rather you didn't know about this. a major fiscal crisis is expected to hit soon after the election. according to the cbo the debt is exploding worse than we thought. cbo says the budget plan will increase total deficits by 6.4 trillion. house republicans unveiled their budget plan next week. byron york joins us. >> president obama was holding a fund-raiser at tyler perry the hollywood director and it shut

down a lot of atlanta. >> greta: you live here in washington you get it on both ends. now to the story about the exploding debt. this is a fiscal crisis after the election, is that what they are saying? >> there are a lot of decisions that have to be made this year. there are automatic spending cuts that may or may not take place in january. what about the bush tax cuts? those are set to expire at the end of the year. are they going to be extended, are they going to be ended or half and half? so all of those decisions have to be made and they are not going to be made before the election. as a matter of fact that is what the election is going to be about. >> greta: that is what is so appalling. they should all be working two nights to make can those decisions, it's going happen after the election so they can have the cover between now and november. it's exactly like the super

committee, draconian cuts by the super committee don't go into effect until next january after the election so all those politicians can dodge the rather of the voters. >> the super committee itself was an effort of congress to say stop me before i spend again and put it into some outside group that could somehow enforce spending cuts that congress has the authority to do as we speak. they could do it right now. these new reports we've gotten from the cbo of the explosion of debt 6 tripled in the next several years and, did $6 trillion and interest rates are going to double and triple. we're going to spend more on our interest on our debt than national defense, it's all coming. >> greta: i guess what is appalling, yes, it's all coming, yes, it's all horrible.

wouldn't you think that the people that responsible would at least be working over my left shoulder. i'm working tonight, you are working and we have everybody out of town doing god knows what. they know this is not going to come to fruition until after the election. so they have now until november not even to attempt to do their work? >> there are three reasons. there are costs associated with the economic downturn. costs like unemployment insurance, food stamps, more people on medicaid. there is the beginning of the explosion of costs for the babyboomers, retirement, we're going to see massive increases in medicare, social security costs in the coming years. then the last they are just plain spending. there was an explosion of that, as well. the first one, the costs associated with the economic downturn, those will actually go

down if hopefully the economy improves. the others are going to have to be taken care of by congress. they have shown no inclination to actually do something about either of those. the entitlement spending or the growth in plain old spending. paul ryan that will unveil another plan next week has been talking about reforming medicare doing something about social security but so far zero, zero has happened. >> greta: byron, i hope you make it home through the traffic. [ laughter ] >> thank you, greta. >> greta: a bizarre kidnapping. its bunny happening. see the video and find out what happened. that is on last call. choose control.

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