pulling back the curtain at the supreme court. what is really going on behind closed doors right now. have they decided the health care case already? could that be possible? hear from an insider. a $5,000 stomach ache. hear one family's emergency room nightmare. another sign that our health care syste is a disaster. you don't want to miss this, in just minutes. but first, a sharply divided house passes paul ryan's $300 trillion budget, mostly along party lines. and the burning question, will the senate jump into action and take up the budget plan? our thought -- don't hold your breath. the senate hasn't passed a budget for 3 years and we spoke to paul ryan earlier tonight. congressman, nice to see you. your budget passed. >> we did. >> greta: how did you do? >> we had a great vote count? you lose any republicans? >> a few. but what we expected.

we had a very, unanimous consensus, i would say. we are really happy with the outcome. >> greta: draw any democrats? >> no. >> greta: okay. now, this is for what period of time, the new budget? >> so every year, the budget act requires by april 15, the house and the senate pass a budge budget. it's this year's budget for 10 years. so it's your map what have the country should do fiscally for 10 years. we update that vision every year. that's the way the budget act calls for. that's what we did. unfortunately, the senate hasn't done it for 3 years now. >> greta: your budget will go to the senate, essentially for the senate to error and it's dead on arrival. >> the way it's supposed to work. the house passes its budget and the senate's posed to pass theirs and they reconcile the differences and bring the conference report back to pass jointly and proceed to implement it. but if any of the stainless steels is disrupted, the process stops. >> the president has a budget. >> he does. the law requires that he submit

a budget? >> the only one who is not putting the cards on the table is the senate. >> that's right. that's right. >> greta: do you have an explanation for that? >> i don't think they want to show the country just the kind of taxes you would have to raise to implement their budget, to implement their vision. the president gave us a budget with net spending increases. the president gave us a budget with a $2 trillion tax increase t. never, ever, ever balances the budget. he chooses to ignore the drivers of our debt, which means we will have a debt crisis under the president's budget. i don't think they want to follow suit because that shows that all democrats in washington are supposedly compliceit with the debt crisis. we see things differently. we think we are on the wrong track and that the president is bringing us toward a debt crisis by not acting and taking responsibility for this problem. so we are acting. we are passing a budget and showing the country specifically how it fix this mess we are in, how we would grow the economy, save medicare, get spending under control and get the debt paid off.

>> greta: at least the president will, quote, play. he has a budget to negotiate the debate. the senate has essentially a pocket veto. the senate not having a budget, actually stops the discussion, right? >> so the conversation we are having is the president's plan and the house republicans plan. there is not a third playener this, meaning the senate democrats. so all we have to look at is what the president has proposed which is four years of budgets, four $trillion deficits and under the president's own budget, he shows the debt exploding. >> greta: the give and take in washington is stopped without the senate. so the senate has stopped this. do you think the president and the senate are on the same -- are they -- conspiring against you? or do you think the president wants the senate to have a budget? >> our government hasn't passed a budget since 2009. what was going on then that we don't have now? harry reid, barack obama and nancy pelosi ran all of

government. nancy pelosi is not the speaker of the house, john boehner is the speaker. so they valid to negotiate with the republicans to get a budget into law. they are not willing to do that because they have their vision passed. so we are still living under that 2009 obama/pelosi/reid budget and we are underneath that. implement obamacare, do the stimulous, have the tax increases in january. all of those things are coming into law and that's the budget we are living under. >> greta: is there any difference between your budget this year that was just passed and the one last year, besides the numbers have increased. the programs themselves? >> sure. we added some components to the medicare reform plan that have enjoyed some bipartisan support. in the system, which the younger people get, 54 and below, theyville a traditional medicare program and a guaranteed coverage option that they can choose from. we get rid of obamacare, its

cuts to medicare that you used to spend on other programs, we keep that money to make medicare solvent and get rid of the board in charge of price controlling medicare and we leave medicare intact for everybody who is 55 and above. but you have a traditional government option with the new benefit for the younger people-- let me see. if you are 55 and over, nothing champings for you. absolutely nothing in terms of medicare. >> that's right. >> greta: if you are under the age of 55, it is different. >> yes. >> it's a plan like the one we have in congress. you have a choice of guaranteed options. and among them is the medicare program and medicare subsidizes your premiums, more if you are poor and sick, less if you are wethy. medicare's going bankrupt. if we want to keep the dmoiment seniors, you must reform it for the younger generation to cash flow the current generation. if we have a debt crisis and

medicare goes bankrupt, everybody is hurt, including current seniors and we want to avoid that. >> greta: all right. somebody's got to get cut. >> who is getting hit? who will be unhappy? >> every government agency, across the board gets cut. from the pentagon? >> greta: how much? >> $300 billion off the base budget. >> greta: how did that compare to the president? >> he cut its deeper. we think he goes deeper to the point where he will hollow out the military, $500 billion. >> greta: is this different from the automatic cuts? >> yes. this is separate. >> greta: okay. >> so what he what we say, the president says ignores or raises taxes. we say, let's pre-e. this other spending cuts, instead of sharp, disruptive cuts. we are moving spending cuts across all government agencies and citing the waste and the abuse with the gao and getting power back to the states,

getting welfare reform to get the programs wired to get people on to lives of self-sufficiency. so we think a lot needs to be done to get us back to growth and repair the safety net and reform medicare and medicaid so they are sustainable. all of those things means we have to stop spending money we don't have. we have to get spending under control. we propose that this cuts $5.3 trillion in spending over the president's budget and it gets the debt under control and paid off over time. >> greta: let me look at the extremes. food stamps. there are some people who live on food stamps and need them. some people are critical and say some don't. but some genuinely need food stamps and they are trying their best. do you do anything? >> we get savings from food stamps $133 billion. food stamps have quadrupled over 10 years, that's more than enough to make up for the recession because states were

incentivized under the stimulus package to sign people up continuously and never checking whether they should go off of it or not. so we want to black-rent -- what? >> bloc grant this in the states and give them more accountability so they are not incentivized to continually send people more for food stamps. in the key is this, like welfare reform, work requirement, time limit, job training requirement, those kinds of incentives that encourage people to get to lives of self-sufficiency and the means to get back to work, those were really successful in 1996. that was just one welfare reform and one program. we want those reforms to these other programs. there are about 69 welfare programs that have not been reformed, food stamps is one of those and we want to replicate the successful reforms of the 90s? >> greta: this is separate but it has to do with our money is waste in the city.

there is a gao report that senator tom coburn commissioned that is scandalous, the waste. is there any way that it's reflected in your budget? where this money is and how we pick it up? >> we cite that gao report and the coburn studies in our budget and put the savings in the budget by going after cutting discretionary spenning and we fund accounts, meaning to go after that. we fund what we call program integrity. we fund more auditors to dig up the waste to get that spending cut. >> greta: last night, there was a vote on the budget -- >> zero. >> greta: but do you agree it was a stunt? >> they said let's have a vote. we took the cbo, the congressional budget office says, here's the budget and the numbers. we put it in the bill, brought it to the floor and nobody voted for it. >> greta: how much politics. >> we wanted to see if people will support the budget. >> greta: you knew they wouldn't? >> no. i thought the democrats might

support it. >> greta: so that wasn't a stunt? >> it was to show the contrast. if the senate's not going to give a budget, let's get a vote on the president's vote and the house budget. i thought democrats might vote for the president's budget. none of them wanted to vote for it. >> greta: you are the ranking member, you seem to like each other. you are good friends. >> yeah. >> greta: how come everybody's so far apart. why can't you work it out? >> i think it's important not to impugn people's motives and not to be disagreeable when you disagree. i think it's important to work with people where you can and to get along well with people personal tow set the stage for being able to cooperate. chris and i disagree-- i would think of any two men i know or women in congress, you would be able to bring it closer? >> he likes to talk about balance. but what balance means in washington today is spend more

money and tax more money and i don't agree with that. >> greta: thought on tuesday in wisconsin. >> i have been so focused on this budget, i am not sure what is going to happen. but i think it will be close? it will be fascinating. >> thanks, greta. >> greta: >> greta: tonight, the nation is on edge awaiting the u.s. supreme court's decision on the fate of the health care law. on monday, the justices trying to determine if -- if an obscure tax law could stop the health care case from being heard. on tuesday, lawyers arguing the heart of the health care law and the source of the funding, the individual mandate -- is it constitutional or not? >> the argument here is that this also is maybe necessary, but it's not proper because it violates an equally evident principle in the constitution, which is that the federal government is be a government with all powers. that it is supposed to be a government of limited powers and that's what all of this

questioning has been about. what is left? if the government can do this, what else can it not do? on wednesday, the sizzling question -- if the court does strike down the individual mandate, does that kill the entire health care law? >> i mean, it's a question of whether we say, everything you did is no good. now we start from scratch. or to say, yeah, there are many things in this that have nothing to do, frankly, with this -- the affordable health care, and there are some that we think it's better to let congress to decide whether it wants them in or out. why shouldn't we say it's a choice between a wrecking operation, chses what you are requesting, or a salvage job. and the more conservative approach would be salvage, rather than throwing out everything. >> greta: so is the supreme court going to tell us their

answer soon? not exactly. most expect we will get the word late june and the decision could come down to just one justice, justice anthony kennedy. christopher walker is one of ken doe's former clerks. >> great to be here. >> greta: we have had the arguments. it is thursday night, what happens tomorrow, friday. >> tomorrow, the justices will go into conference. it's a private conference with just the justicessa the at which they will cast a preliminary vote. >> greta: who is there? >> just the justices, the nine of them. >> greta: so tomorrow, they will know whether they are 5-4, 6-3, whatever. >> they will know preliminarily. >> greta: does it happen that they have their split tomorrow and later on, for some other reason, the split chawnchs? >> the justices are not locked in tomorrow. after the justices have the vote, they are going to sign the majority opinion and the justice and his clerks will work away on it. if that opinion isn't something that the other justices want to

join, there can be movement on which justices go which way. >> greta: hypothetical, it's 5-4 tomorrow and the chief justice is in the majority, he decides who will write the opinion? >> that's correct. >> greta: let's assume, he is not in the majority, who will decide who writes the opinion. >> whoever the most senior justice is. >> greta: all right. they make the decision, whatever it is. the preliminary vote. and they have decided who will write the majority opinion. and then what happens from there? >> so the justice that is writing the opinion will go back to the chambers of the clerks and talk about how to craft the opinion and go through the drafting process. this is a really tight timeline here. usually you have several months. here, you have about 2, or less to write the first draft. once the justice feels comfortable with the first draft, he will circulate it to the rest of the court. >> greta: when would you expect it to be done? is there a proscribed time period? >> it is not like that. here, you have at least four

issues. you could have four opinions, perhaps, depending on how the votes come down on each of the issues. >> greta: i take it in a given supreme court, whether it's this complement of justices or other, there are some clerks and some justices more involved in the writing. is that fair to say? >> that's correct. >> greta: as of tomorrow afternoon, do the clerks have an idea of how the split is? >> yes. yeah. the clerks, usually, each chamber is different. but usually the justices will go back and report how the conference went and start to prepare the opinions they have been assigned. >> greta: is there four law clerks, or law schools, graduated from fine law schools and four to each justice? >> that's correct. >> greta: let me push ahead to june. at some point, they will have a final decision, does it have to be before the end of the term? >> if it's before this term, yes. >> greta: does it ever happen that it doesn't get done, or that it gets kicked over to the

next term? >> not that i know of. there was one cased that re-argued the next term. the judges decided to ask a question to the case. >> greta: let's assume, by may 15, they have the majority opinion and it's passed around to the other justices to look at it? >> that's right. including those who don't agree. at that point, one of those who don't agree will write the dissent. >> greta: suppose somebody doesn't like the majority opinion, can another justice top in and say, i think we should look at it another way. is there a deliberative process that way? >> there are different ways. sometimes it's a memo saying, i think your opinion's great, but you need to change these five things to get me to join. other times, there might be conversations with the justices and the clerks to iron out the differences. >> greta: is it always pleasant and happy? or is there the passion that we see in ordinary life among justices and clerks about these things? >> i found the justices to be

quite collegial. sometimes the clerks get more excited. but i always found the justices to be quite collegial. >> greta: at some point, down the road, last day of june, work day, there will be a reading of the opinion? >> that's right? and if someone's really unhappy with the majority opinion and someone's dissented that, person, you can tell that because the person read its from the bench. >> perhaps. if there is a justice that wants to read it that feels passionate about an issue in the case, the justice can read it from the bench. >> greta: but there are never any leaks. we won't hear anything, right? >> it's a pretty tight ship. >> greta: indeed, it is. >> great. >> greta: straight ahead, it is starting and it's getting ugly, the supreme court hasn't even ruled and already the health care bill is used as a potential political wmd. byron york is here next. why was an atf agent emailing a

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>> greta: the supreme court ruling is not expected until june, but that does not stop the health care battle as being used as a poisonous political weapon. take a look at this rnc ad, released almost before lawyers left the courtroom yesterday. >> case 11398, the department of health and human services versus florida. >> for more than 80% of americans, the insurance system does provide effective access. excuse me. because of the... the... excuse me. >> greta: washington examiner

chief political correspondent, byron york is here. i have been there in those tough spots in the court. but that was brutal. boy, that was a tough political web ad. >> that was the solicitor general, who had a couple of tough moments in making his case. and the kicker of that rnc ad, was at the end, they said obamacare, a tough sell. >> greta: so, tell me, how is this going to be used as a political weapon? how does this unfold? >> three possibilities. the court could uphold the whole law. it could strike down the individual mandate and leave the rest standing. or it could knock the whole thing down. as far as president obama's concerned, the only good one is if it upholes the whole law because if it does not, you will have republicans saying in 2009-10, when americans were desperate for the president to work on creating jobs, on fixing the economy, he devoted all of

this his time to this massive scheme that turns out to be unconstitutional. this is want good for the president-- although! >> on the other hand, as far as republicans are concerned, if you go to any republican campaign rally, mitt romney, rick santorum, newt gingrich, the biggest applause line comes when they pledge to repeal obamacare and they always do it. now, if the act were struck down, republicans would be like the dog that caught the car. i am not sure what they would do. but if it stays up and in whole or in part, this will do absolutely nothing to stop the republican drive to try to repeal obamacare. >> greta: it seems to me that there is a high risk to the republican party, if it is stricken, that everybody loses enthusiasm, the applause line. the marginal voters think, well, we got t. we got the insurance. for some reason, i think -- if

it is struck down, is that president obama's base is going to be revved up. war on women will be expanded and now it's the war on everybody, on health care, it will totally rev up the base, fund-raising and everything else. so in some sick, twisted way, i think if the law's stricken, it is better politically for the president. >> if it's struck down, the president has a decision to make, which is: to try to appeal to the moderates who voted for him in 2008 and say, we want to go back to the drawing board. we want to come up with something that not only fits the constitutional muster and avoids the problems in our original bill. or whether he goes to the base, attacks the supreme court like he did in the citizens united case and really tries to rev up kind of a left-wing base campaign. he will have to make that decision, if he finds kare-11 stricken down. >> what happens if we have a foreign -- let's say post june, no matter what, there is a problem with iran and israel, do

woe forget -- do the voters forget the health care? is that still going to be front and center? >> you can always have an international incident that overshadows anything else. both campaigns are thinking about what happens if something happens with iran, if israel attacks or something else happens with iran, they are both happening about that right now. but as far as the republicans are concerned, it was the stimulus, the bailouts and obamacare is that really fueled the anger that led to the big republican victories in november of 2010. so unless you see obamacare struck down completely, you will see the republicans continuing to press, press, press for repeal. >> greta: byron, thank you. >> good to be here. >> greta: coming up, why does someone at the white house get the email message -- you didn't get these from me. does that sound suspicious? that email's raising big questions in the fast & furious investigations. senator chuck grassily is here.

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>> greta: do you think the white house is going to answer this one or upons to? here it is, why did someone at the white house get the email main, you didn't get these from me? and what was the information

emailed? new spues picions in the fast & furious investigation and republican lawmakers want to question a former white house aide. we spoke to senator grassily a short time ago. nice to see you. >> glad to be with you, always. >> greta: i know in this fast & furious investigation that you want to hear from a man named mr. o'reilly, who used to work at the white house. why do you want to talk to him? >> well, about several months ago, maybe last fall sometime, we got emails from... that involved a mr. newell in arizona, community communicating with people in high level of the white house, mr. o'reilly was in the national security division of the white house. now, admittedly, newell and o'reilly were friends, but the point is, it's very, very unusual to have somebody in a field office communicating with somebody at the national

security council what the situation is in trord fast & furious. so we heard from mr. newell from the email, as well as his testimony before congressman issa's committee. that's half of the story. we want the rest of the story from mr. o'reilly and we are writing to the white house to get permission. now, mr. o'reilly is in iraq and we will have to communicate by telephone. but we are willing to do so so he doesn't have to come back here. and his lawyer says he's willing to communicate with us, but obviously, he can't come under testimony without the permission of the white house. and we want the white house to say that it's okay for us to question on the roar, mr. o'reilly to get the other half of the story about who in the white house and why were people in the white house involved in fast & furious, when we are led to believe that the white house doesn't know anything about it? here's what i find most curious,

william newell who was the special agent in charge of the phoenix field division, is not communicating with the justice department -- or maybe he is -- but he is surprisingly communicating with mr. o'reilly at the white house. what i find so curious is that the emails he sent, september 23, 2010, he says to mr. o'reilly, you didn't get these from me. that's one thing that i think is suspicious. the second thing is if these two are friends, how come at a congressional hearing, dated july 26, 2010, newell wasn't able to explain why he had direct contact with mr. o'reilly about an ongoing investigation. he wasn't able to explain it. why didn't he say, wewere friends, talking about going out and having a beer. that seems peculiar to me. >> it's very convenient that he will have an absence of mind, under oath before a

congressional committee when he has had these communications, he admitted the communications of he didn't want to go beyond the email. but it also gives us a justification, greta, for asking the white house for permission and authority to interview o'reilly. >> greta: has the white house said, look narcotic interest of trying to get to the bottom of this investigation, we have a border agent who has been murdered, we doll that. we'll let you talk to him and maybe not talk to him on the record, but let him talk to you privately, which is done on rare occasion? >> well, we haven't had a response from the white house yet. and -- and you know, understanding how we have been stonewalled by the justice department for the last year, on this whole issue, getting only 6,000 document when is we know there are 80 thousand documents out there, i wouldn't be surprised if we are stonewalled by the white house. i hope not. i want their cooperation.

the president said he would be the most transparent president in the history of the country. you would think that we would get this information, particularly if there is nothing to hide. >> greta: what i still don't understand eye have talk to the congressman issa about this, when you get attorney general holder, under oath, the two questions i would ask is who is the highest-ranking person at justice or the white house who knew about fast & fur warehouse and who is the highest ranking person who authorized it. those two question, i can't figure out why they can't be easily and swiftly. this has been going on way too long. >> well, and you know, those two key questions you just asked, that you would ask holder are the very same questions we are trying to get answers for. until we get those answers, we really won't have our investigation over. but ift all leads to you believe that somebody's trying to hide something.

>> greta: why not drop a subpoena on them every single day, i realize that you are in the minority in the senate, but congressman darrell issa is in the major in the house. why not drop subpoenas ever day until you get to the bottom of it? the murdered border agent's family probably wants to get to the bottom of this more than anybody else right now. i mean, we're not setting a good example for the victims, the family of a victim, law enforcement officer. >> i would go one step further than you just said, we ought to issue more subpoenas. i think that there has been enough subpoenas that have not been answered by holder that it's fair to hold him in contempt. and that, of course, would have to be done in the house of representatives. but i think it's something that i have recommended. >> greta: have you ever called him and said, i'm in the minority here in the senate. this is unanswered. this has been dragging on for years. the really simple yes. why don't you do -- whatever the contempt is, if you recommend, but something to get this

moving? >> well, you know, i have said so publicly. i hate to tell the chairman of the house committee exactly how he ought to run his committee. but i am telling you how i feel. i am sure he knows how i feel. >> greta: well, terrible tragedy, a border agent murdered. we still don't have the answers and it's taking forever to get the do you mean, forever to get answers. time for the family to gets answers. >> when the truth comes out, holder and justice department people and/or the white house will have egg on their face. >> greta: i hope that's all they have on their face wthis. anyway, thank you very much, senator. >> you bet. thank you. >> greta: coming up, if you think you or someone you love could end up in an emergency room, dont move, you must see this next segment. one family's hear to tell -- here to tell you their disturbing story. this could happen to you.

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give the 68-year-old's lawyer more time to prepare jerry sandusky's defense. he is accused of sexually molesting 10 teenaged boys. he is now under house arrest. now back to "on the record." >> greta: another disturbing sign that our nation's health care syssm is a mess. a california man billed $5,000 to get emergency room care for his daughter for a stomach ache. that's a lot of money. but he was also billed for treatment she didn't get. are hospitals purposely ripping you off? the father is here. i guess i should start, your daughter's fine, is that correct? >> yeah, she's fine. >> greta: also, you are not in any way objecting to the care that the doctors were caring for

your daughter? >> no, they gave us very good, strong care. they were all -- they were on top of everything. we are very thorough. >> greta: she had a stomach ache. tell me what happened? >> we were at home. and she had some stomach trouble. we called our pediatrician. he had some concerns in what we were saying, he said you should go to the emergency room. that's when we decided to go to this particular hospital. >> greta: now, dr. moser, you are the grandfaur, after your son and granddaughter was fine, the bill showed up. it's a $5,000 bill. were you surprised? >> i was appalled by it. i thought it was absurd, some of the charges were off the wall and plain english. this child was admitted with a stomach ache and they did things like a metabolic pag, including studies for blood sugar and cholesterol and billed her $1212

for the blood test. they did a regular blount count and charged $356. these are charges that are not two or three or four times more than they are even in the most boutiquey doctors in los angeles or new york. but they are 10 and 12 times higher. they did studies that made no sense to me. they did a study of blood clotting and bleeding studies, which an 11-year-old girl, made no sense at all. they plained this by saying she had an appendicitis. the doctors would have wanted all of these tests. and the answer, she didn't. why not draw the blood, leave them there, if she had an appendix, go do the study. one is the very high charges. and the second, doing a lot of procedures that are questionable. now, they say that they have to cover the cost of uninsured people. for that, they charge over $1100 to walk into the emergency room.

i think it was $1200. that should cover some of the costs that the hospitals have to absorb for people who are uninsured. but on top of that, they did these other things? john, one of the items on the bill is for an i.v., saline solution i.v., your cart daughter was not dehydrated. did she have the saline solution i.v.? >> no. no. i actually, at the time, i said, is this necessary? they said, it's not. i said, let's not use t. unfortunately, they did bill me for it. i had to go back and say, please, remove this from the bill. we didn't get this. >> greta: i guess, your family is lucky enough that you went back and you were aggressive about the billing, john. the total bill $5,000, after you battled with the insurance company and the hospital, you got it down, right? >> well, that's not quite correct. the insurance company did speak to them on our behalf and the bill is reduced to an amount that the insurance company would

pay. i have a $5,000 deductible. so what they did say is, this is what the insurance pays, so the bill should be around their 2500. that remainder, i did have to pay. >> greta: you know, doctor, we have only 30 seconds left. but the hospital is a so-called not-for-profit and you look at the prices and youking, how can it be not for profit? >> they say they need this to cover the uninsured. but as i say, that should be covered by the price to walk into the room. in addition to the bill, john got for the many, many blood tests, there were bills from doctors for almost $1,000, dlding one from a quote, pathologist, a pathologist who examines tissues. and there were no tissues to be examined here. there were a lot of items on this, over and above the $5,000. >> greta: john, dr. mosser, thank you both and a lesson to take a look at the bill. we have to do something about this pricing. it is a nightmare. i have looked at your bills. >> all over the country.

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