greta is next. >> greta: tonight, governor mitt romney is here and the polls open in wisconsin in ten hours. we're live on the battleground state on the eve of the presidential primary here. but that is not the only big news in the conference. governor scott walker and lieutenant governor rebecca kleefisch facing recall. she will join us. and paul ryan goes on the record. and you will never believe what the gsa just did to you. we won't tell you part of the it now, you will get upset. we'll tell you the whole story in a few minutes. that's coming up. but now, mitt romney. nice to see you, especially in my home state. >> thank you, good to be here. >> greta: first time i've done an interview among oil drums. >> yeah. this is a moor oil company distributor of oil products. happy to be here. hopefully we can get the price

of this down. >> good place to start. one question you were asked is about oil in the town hall. the president's super-pac is running an ad against you saying that you pledge to protect the billions in profits of oil companies. so i'm curious. in light that gas prices are so high, how does the government justify tax breaks. millions of billions in profits. that is taken from us. >> well, i think it's amazing and actually troubling for the president of the united states to be looking for someone to blame. a lot of qualities that you look for in a president. blending of the people is not one of them. he is the president of the united states. he is the one responsible for energy titles in our country today. and by virtue of his policies we have seen something he predicted in the campaign. he said with his energy policy, energy prices would skyrocket. frankly, what he has done is made it harder and harder if the small operators, the drillers to get more oil, more gas, more coal.

to develop the american sources of energy. he is responsible in part of what we have seen around the world, people conferenceed of prices of oil will go up. >> greta: it's not necessarily -- not talk about the middle guy. but big guy. the really big oil companies. look at the product. the profit, something like $20 billion or $30 billion of profit. that is a lot of profit. because they get tax breaks. and i wonder because every time they get tax breaks that means the rest of us don't know how to pay for it indirectly -- somehow pay for it indirectly. the president doesn't want them to get the tax breaks. do you support those tax breaks? >> i'm not sure precisely what big tax breaks we're talking about but i do know the that the right course for american production generally, not only of oil but all things, agriculture, machinery, everything we make in this country is subject to the highest tax in the world. corporate taxes in america are the highest in the world. then there are various breaks in induction and exemptions that certain industries have been able to win through

lobbying over the years. what i'd like to do is get the tax rate down so we're come pettive with places like europe for pete -- competitive with places like europe for pete's sake. get tax rate down and eliminate reduction and special deals a lot of industries get. look at them one-by-one. there are reams of them. let's simplify the tax code for our employers of all kinds. particularly for small employers and get our tax rate competitive with other natio nations. keep jobs here. >> greta: a lot of discussion about jobs in this campaign. and i'm not going to ask you a specific question about jobs. i think i know where you stand on jobs. if you create jobs, someone to get job has to fill out an application, be able to read and write. the state of the education in this country is atrocious. a lot of people can't fill out an application. there has been very little discussion in this campaign so far on education. is there anything you can do about education to help those people?

>> as a governor i had responsibility for education in my state. it followed terrific governors and legislators that cared to get the schools competitive. and do the job they were supposed to be doing. we drove our states to be number one in all 50 states in the nation. we did it by having more school choice and more accountbility in schools. with tested our kids every year to see who was succeeding and failing in the classroom and the particular school. if a school was failing consistently, the state was able to take over the school. also eliminate provisions that were in the union contract if they were deemed to be interfering with the education of a child. we implement english immersion in our schools. so our kids were not taught bilingual or foreign languages first. we were taught english. we were able to do things to make schools more effective. you will find it across the country recognition that the teachers union have to take a backseat to the interest of our kids. and the parents and the localities. i want schools to have the power to make decision at the

local level but i think the federal government can play a role in standing up to the federal teachers union. >> greta: would you agree that the education system has hit the skids? general? not the private schools and some of the public schools a the wealthier in country but a lot of our schools have hit the skids as a result the kids hit the skids? >> yeah, a mixed picture. in various cities and states in the country. better than others. florida for instance. under governor jeb bush was able to put in a series of school choice measures. measures to test quality of education for the children. that had a big impact and drove their schools to be far better than they had been prior to the policies being put in place. in my state, getting driven to be number one came as a result of the school choice and testing. and higher rewards for students doing particularly well on their tests. in terms of getting scholarships for school, or college afterwards. we know what works in

education. the funny thing is, there is not a mystery about how to improve schools. we know that what drives success of the student and the school is the cult of teaching. >> greta: what happened to the school system? >> we gave the school system over to teachers unions. the teachers union are by far the largest contributor to political campaigns and give almost exclusively to democrats. democrats as a result feel behold on the do what the teachers union wants. they get, they can in some cases elect a mayor that sits across from them at the bargaining table, and agrees to various provision to protect the teacher, nothing wrong with that. don't put interest of the kids first. >> greta: when i talk to teachers, the thing is, they all really want to teach. i mean the system for whatever reason seems really broken. every teacher that i meet, whether the union or nonunion wants to teach. we have to do something about making that you are young kids competitive so they can fill out the applications. but it has gotten almost to in some ways catastrophic in some

areas. >> no question about it. look at california. it's you used to have some of the best schools in the country. now ranked almost at the very bottom. what we have to do in my view is make it more attractive for young people to go to teaching. we have don't have the right starting salary. i'd like to see the higher starting salaries for teachers and the benefit and tenure we pile on at the end and retiree benefits, these things are designed to care for the big players in the union movement and not take care of those coming in to teaching. we need to hire from the best and brightest from the colleges and universities. we need them to have expertise in the subject they're going to be teaching that makes it a subject of interest for the kids they are going to be teaching. >> greta: now the unemployment rate is high. a lot of discussion as i noted about jobs. but one thing it doesn't really get discussed right now is poverty. and poverty, moral issue with poverty, but poverty is very expensive. whether it's food stamps. food stamps have gone up 14 million since president obama has been president. went up during president

bush's presidency as well. it keeps growing and growing and growing. but it really does send a message to americans that we're not winning the war on poverty. it is getting worse. that costs all of us. >> no question this president failed. when it comes to caring for the american people. as a result of the president's policies we see higher record of poverty. 30% of single moms are living in poverty in this country. record number of people, 47 million people on food stamps. 2.3 million homes closed upon. the president's policy failed. economic policy has been a bust. the right course for the american people is to have an economy that is growing and putting people back to work. >> greta: there are those in the unemployment rate looking for a job, in 8.1 or 2%, whatever we are, looking for work. but there is a huge segment of population in dispair, not counted because they're not looking for work. a lot of them fundamentally,

maybe some people are critical saying they don't want work. i believe a lot of them do want to work, they want to succeed and they have for whatever reason, they haven't made the cut. they have been left behind. i'm thinking in order for all of to us do well in the economy, you know, we don't need this expensive poverty we're paying for. i'm curious, moral issue, what could you do to help lift those people up and get them involved? >> again, this is not a mystery. give people equal opportunities. great schools. terrific education. some people have the skills to participate in the modern economy. number two, if they need help getting in to the labor force, you give them job training, skills that allow them to be hired. of course you have to have an economy that wants to hire people. looking to hire people. we have an economy right now that is not creating jobs that americans need and want. part of that is because this administration made america a less attractive place to start a business, grow a business.

businesses today feel they are under attack because of the administration. you are not going to create jobs if entrepreneurs decide not to start new businesses. thunder president, startups dropped by 100,000. the larger businesses are moving operations outside this country because they feel by virtue of the taxation, the highest in the world now. lack of the energy policy the take advantage of resources. they're causing resources to go elsewhere. killing jobs. i smile at my liberal friends. they love a strong economy. they just don't like businesses. but the economy is nothing but the addition of all the businesses in the country together. you have to love enterprise, small, large, middle size. encourage it. develop it. government sees itself as the opponent of this. it has to be the ally of enterprises, of all kind.

what we have is a growing government society. government cannot create jobs that the american people need. to get out of poverty, have rising standards of living for the middle income america. that is what has to happen. a new attitude that has to come to washington. >> greta: it sounds like a trickle down. that, the economy is going, that all of a sudden those who are at the lowest of the rung economically that will somehow do better. i haven't heard anything since jack kemp days, the zones to go in and dig in the areas. have enterprise zones. get them revved up. >> there is a lot of ways to say how can we manipulate the market? you have seen president obama saying i'll give $00 million to solyndra and that will get things going. i'm more inclined to say let's make america the best place for small business. make it easy to start a business and easier to get a loan for a small business.

make it easier to hire people and give people greater visibility and the cost of a hire will be. if you do that people will get a great job. we can encourage in certain sectors of the economy. places for job growth. i was pleased in my state to pick an area where military plant had been removed and we said let's the our best to get jobs to move in those areas. you have policy state-by-state you are trying to focus on, creating economic empowerment zones. the right thingover all is to be competitive on taxes and regulation that encourage enterprise as opposed to crush it. energy policy to take advantage of the natural resources in the country. keep energy prices down. or come pettive. to have trade policies that open up new markets for the goods. crack down on cheaters, including china if they are going to steal our intellectual property. patent, design, know hof how. we have to make america attractive for small business. those 100,000 new employers

per year make a difference in putting people at every rung in the economic ladder back to work. >> greta: what is the difference between running a business and running a state? you were a governor. what are the -- i mean you get to say a little bit more when you run a business. i'm curious where the, what is the more difficult part of governing? >> actually, the more difficult job is working in business. because business is not forgiving. if you spend more than you take in, year after year you will be out of business. if you make serious strategic errors you will be gone. the government borrows more money and tax more people, blames opposition party. people in business are doing the harder job. people in government, you have to learn to work with folks. people think oh, if you are the head of a company you don't need to work with others. you can make all the decisions on your own. not so.

shareholders, bankers, competitors, you to listen to others. my experience is if you are in business you are a fiscal conservative and you know you have to balance your books. we need people from the real economy to go to government and use their skill learning how to live with an nick framework to hold down spending and not borrow more than you're taking in. >> greta: one last question. president obama today talking about the healthcare said unelected group of people would somehow overturn a dually constituted passed law. it's a good example. talking about the judicial activism. your thoughts about the remark about much broader? i showed you the longer quote. calling the supreme court unelected group looking at the healthcare law? >> isn't this wonderful haveto have a liberal talking about judicial activism. if we come together on this, we have been concerned about this for years and years and years. the president is concerned that the supreme court might apply the constitution to bill he passed.

the purpose of the supreme court is to make sure that congress does not pass laws that are in violation of the constitution. so judicial activism is not following the constitution. judicial activism is departing from the constitution. i applaud the fact that the supreme court looks to be taking the responsibility of following the constitution seriously. if the president complains about a supreme court following the constitution he is coming from a different world than the world that the founders and the judicial history has described for america. >> greta: up next, what happens in wisconsin doesn't necessarily stay in wisconsin. scott walk irand rebecca kleefisch fitzing recall. it could have an impact on the election. lieutenant governor is here next. paul ryan goes on the record in a few minutes and says the

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>> greta: the presidential primary is hours away and wisconsin is gearing up for another election. recall election. you will remember last year at the union protesters storming almost seizing the state cap tcapitol. they are assuming that governor walker strippeded their bargaining rights. now walker and lieutenant governor rebecca kleefisch face recall election. lieutenant governor kleefisch joins us. >> nice to see you. >> greta: when you ran originally did you run on the same ticket with governor walker? >> it's kind of confusing. we are elected separately in a primary and paired together on a ticket in the general. so folks cast one ballot for us in the general election. even though they cast separate ballots for us in the primary.

the funny thing is we are being recalled separately. when they changed the constitution when we elected by that in the first place, they never went to the recall function of the constitution a changed that. even though we are elected together, we're recalled potentially in separate questions, potentially on separate ballots on different days. >> greta: you are the first lieutenant governor in history to be recalled? >> i am the first lieutenant governor in national history to face a recall. >> i'm not going to say something you necessarily want but interesting historically. >> i'll be the first lieutenant governor to be elected twice in my first term. somehow that? >> greta: that is good. i want to call the recall petition. this was stunning, it had just been revealed, disclosed, exposed how you want to describe it, judges, 12% of the state court judge signed recall petition. since that, now i learned that

journalists signed the recall petition against you and the governor. >> so much for impartialality. i was a former journalist. i was a news anchor years ago. spent my first career as a journalist, it's disconcerting when you have people covering this signing petitions, signaling their political intent. same thing when you talk about the judges signing. it's concerning for the folks who are going in to the courts expecting impartialality. >> greta: has any of the other newspapers come out and journalists said this is wrong to the ones that are offenders? my local newspaper where i grew up -- >> they did. >> greta: the other newspapers are policing each other about this? they are. the biggest newspaper in the state "milwaukee your mall" came out with a statement. one thing that concerns us is they did it in the first place. when i was a newspaper we signed ethics forms and we declared we would be impartial. that's how we were going to

report the news. >> how many opponents do you have? >> right now i have one opponent who is backed by the democrat party. the head of the state firefighters union. already -- >> greta: we interviewed him. >> you did. >> greta: the only candidate you have? >> there are others, actually we know that there is a gentleman from portage, mianett, private investigator from milwaukee, all who have declared their intention to run against me in the recall election. but to be honest with you, i am confident. because we have the facts. we have facts to go voters. >> they came out with tremendous numbers to sign a petition. 800,000 signed yours. 900,000 signed the for. it's not there isn't a ground swell of enthusiasm to the recall. >> we are passionate folks in wisconsin. i will admit that. that is one of the reasons i excel wisconsin from economic -- sell wisconsin. we're ethical and

compassionate and hard workers here. i will say the 800 number i care a heck more about is the fact we saved $848 million from the reform in state and local government. for the first time, five years and 5% tax hike we are seeing a tax freeze in state. we have good stuff. >> greta: we'll be watching because it's indicate what the republican party can expect in november in the stakes after the two, or whatever -- june 5 is the recall? >> june 5 is the recall. may 8 is the primary. so we urge people to keep their eyes focused on wisconsin because we're a harbinger for what is to come in the country. >> greta: we'll watch. thank you for joining us. nice to see you. up next, president obama saying something pretty weird about the united states supreme court. yes, it's the same court that is now deciding his healthcare bill. what happens? that is coming up. also we have a story about the bsa. if this does not set your hair on fire, nothing will.

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biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint. unelected group of people would somehow overturn a dually constituted and passed law. well, a good example. and i'm pretty confident that this court will recognize that. and not take that step. >> greta: unelected group of people. really? the president failed to mention the unelected people we should really be worried about that. is the h.h.s. workers who are implementing the healthcare law. we don't even know their names. they're writing the rules. senator jon kyl from the committee joins us. good evening. your thoughts about the president's apparently doesn't like the fact that ton elected group, being the nine justices will make the determination on constitutionality or not. >> yeah.

your first word was weird. and it is kind of weird and incoherent. the liberals have no problem at all with the unelected group ruling in cases in their favor. they were all for the court deciding this case when they thought it was going to rule in their favor. but strangely, after the oral arguments when a lot of observers felt that the liberal case wasn't made very well by the government lawyers, they seemed to be in a panic mode. and a lot of folks both political and media now appear to be as the "wall street journal" said mau-mauing the supreme court even before it's ruled, intimidating the justices, in effect accusing them before they have ruled of judicial activism. it's a rather strange thing for the president to do. i think he did this in the presence of two foreign leaders to be criticizing the court. i would call the "state of the union" speech when he called out the court. he seems to have a habit of this. this is not a good thing for president to denigrate the

third branch of government. >> greta: there something odder than that. this is a guy -- i don't mean to be disrespectful. he went to harvard law school. every person in law school hears marbury versus madison that says the function of the supreme court is the power includes the right to review whether a statute is constitutional or not. i don't know why we are criticizing the one group in the city -- no disrespect to you, sir -- but they're doing the job they're supposed to. >> that is right. what was the holding in marbury versus madison, the first great case from the supreme court. you could contend that the supreme court would be judicially active if it supported this stretching of the commerce clause as the congress did in the obamacare legislation. and the court in effect was

asking the litigants how far can this be stretched? is there no limit? i think the court would be imposing some judicial restraint. on the congress, on the federal government if it drew a line here. the court has never been presented with the case where congress forced citizens to buy a product so it could then be regulated. the court didn't ask for this case. but it came to the court and it what to make a decision, one way or another. it's not judicially active. if it says on the congress whoa, you gone too far. >> greta: the other thing president says in part, the extraordinary step of overturning a law that was that was passed bay strong majority of democratically-elected congress. number one, it was not a strong majority. in fact, it was really close. number two, democratically elected congress but the democratically elected congress didn't read the statute and fawned it out to h.h.s., the people who are writing the rules and regulations.

they aren't elected at all. so the president's really got this one wrong. >> greta: two points. the deckicly controlled congress almost couldn't pass it because every republican voted against it. when scott brown was elected from massachusetts, the liberals thought they lost until nancy pelosi pulled out the procedural gimmick of the so-called budget reconciliation process. sending it back to the senate that could pass it with less than majority that is normally required in cases like this. at the time it was passed and this day the american people oppose it by 2:1. it's not exactly like it's a really popular thing that the court would be overturning here. >> greta: no, it didn't. unusual for president to strike out at the supreme court. thank you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> greta: up next, wisconsin's congressman paul ryan. wisconsin republicans are gearing up for two big fights in the badger state.

primary followed closely by the recall election. congressman paul ryan goes on the record. and senator santorum takes his campaign to my hometown appleton, wisconsin. and we hear he is doing a little dishing about me. what does senator santorum tell the crowd? well, we have it on tape. you have to hear it. it's two minutes away. [ male announcer ] this is lawn ranger -- eden prairie, minnesota. in here, the landscaping business grows with snow. to keep big winter job on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone

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so explain this to me. >> we don't have party registration in wisconsin. you ku walk in whoever you are and say i want the republican ballot or the democratic ballot and vote for whoever you want in the republican or democratic party. like you heard in michigan, you know there is a concern about the crossover voting. democrats voting in the presidential primary for republicans to vote for whoever is the worst candidate for obama to face. that is a concern we have in wisconsin. >> greta: are you hearing any noise? >> i don't know the answer to that. i have not heard of anything. sometimes you the robo call campaigns about the crossover voting. >> greta: this is a big primary. if mitt romney wins tomorrow could -- >> yes. even if romney win wins in al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula rom -- i think rick

has to win 82 of the rest of the delegates and i don't see how he can put it together. this is among the reasons we're endorsing romney. he is the best person to be president. i spent time with him, going through details a the budget, time of year, 2013 has to be to get america back on track. i am convince ed he has the conservative principles to put it in action. he is the best president. i think he has the minneapolis of becoming president. beating barack obama. tuesday, tomorrow, we think we can make a difference in that. if he wins wisconsin and the other two states it's far out in the lead. he's the prohibitive nominee. we coalesce around the nominee. the primary has been productive but we are moving to the counterproductive stage. if this drags out longer it will be that much harder to beat obama in the fall.

>> greta: if you look at history, you might have an uphill battle. in 2008, president obama took the state by 14 points. two years later, republican governor scott walker won by five points, which is a big turn-around. now he is taking a lot of heat. he has a recall in june. things seem topsyturvy here. >> george bush lost wisconsin by one-half of one point both times. last time with obama, john mccain stopped campaigning here in september. the campaign didn't exist. so obama ran up the score. the last election where scott walker and ron johnson won, took two house seats and the senate. we have feel like we have a chance as republicans. i think mitt romney is in the best position to win states like ours. ohio and wisconsin. which are the states to determine this whole thing. >> greta: what about governor walker? this recall in june. this is going to -- i mean it seems like it's gotten ugly. going to be a fight on both sides. >> greta: huge fight. we're told that the unions around the connecticut are going to spend something like

$40 million in wisconsin between now and june 5 with the recall ends. a massive effort. a big fight. i think scott will win. you know why i think scott will win in it's working. the point of reform -- >> greta: there are almost a million signatures for recall. >> sure. >> greta: a lot of journalists and judges. >> did you notice that in the reporters and judges signing the recall position, objective people. more to the point. it met with the school district superintendent of a small school district of a district i represent the other day because of scott walker's reforms. saved $1.6 million. just in her school district. on being able to put health insurance out for bid. she doesn't have to use teachers union monopoly insurance plan anymore. she saved $1.6 million. she put reforms in the class room to make education better because of the reform. walker reforms kept taxes low, didn't require massive layoff of teacher and public worker

osrequiring the government services. it helped balance the budget without raising taxes. those reforms are working. >> greta: i guess if i were governor walker to have the confidence you have, but for the fact that the recall petition has so many signatures on it. even when i was doing reporting on it, i got an e-mail from a friend of mine who teaches at the university of wisconsin. haven't heard from her in 25 years, practically took my skin off she was so angry. there is real anger toward the governor. >> very angry. i think as people learn the facts if they learn about how the reforms are working, not just the state level but the local level, i think by and large, wisconsinites will not vote to recall. recall over policy dispute i don't think is called for. people don't like what scott walker did which is what he said he'd do in campaigning the normal course of election is when they should vote for somebody else. >> greta: outside money coming to the state for his opponent and outside money coming for -- >> i imagine so.

>> greta: interesting how this is becoming a national election. >> it was said in a major newspaper the other day. this is the most important election this year after the presidential election. courage is on the ballot. what legislators has the courage to address problems in the state if they do this this is what happens to them. that's profound. he is taking on drivers of the debt in wisconsin. we're taking on our drivers of debt in washington. we're going to be attacked from the political adversaries. more debt and decline, we're offering the solutions. we will be attacked for offering solutions. people are bigger than that. i think the american people want to be treated like adults not pandered to like children and ready for real solutions and honest talk. >> greta: thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: straight ahead, members of congress calling it outrageous. unethical an gross abuse of the taxpayer dollars. tonight, heads are rolling at the g.s.a. why is everyone so peeved in

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>> greta: this will leave you speechless. if you are not outraged there is really something wrong with you. listen to this one. 146,000 for catering. $75,000 for team building exercises. $6,300 for commemorative coins. 8,100 for conference books. those are some of the expenses that the general services administration racked up for a training conference. and guess who paid for this? you guessed it. you did. taxpayers. we all paid for it. the lavish government employee convention cost total of $822,751. tonight heads are rolling at the gsa. abc news senior washington editor rick klein joins us. this can't be true. >> it is stunning in every detail. you read this and think it's parody of bureaucracy run wild. there are 300 employees in the las vegas area to spend this money with these stunning expenses you're right, jaw

dropping. >> greta: a list of things. while waiting for the segment i got a tweet from the "washington post" that said we paid for a mind reader and a clown to attend this. go figure. senator tom coburn who is so corn certained with waste, who does he commission to do the waste and fraud studies by the gsa. now they have a new chapter themselves. i'm equally angry at congress. they are the ones who weren't doing overseeing on fannie mae and freddie mac and weren't overseeing on the sikh a sec as lawyers were downloading porn on our dime. it doesn't stop. >> it gives you some indication of how hard is it to wrang the federal bureaucracy. the fact that it happened in october 2010, just says before the tea party takeover of congress, there is no time maybe in american history where this there is fervor over the taxpayer spending. to see this thing where the people, first of all, they got all this tens of thousands of dollars spent on meals and room and board and everything.

$8,000 for the yearbook and mo momentos on their way out. they went line by line to find a way to charge additional line items. >> greta: head of the gsa stepped down. two people have been fired. this is a presidential appointment, confirmation in senate. they're all up to their eyeball in this. the white house, senate, they're in charge of the government agencies. they're supposed to be the stewards of the government. $830,000 washed away of american taxpayer money. deplorable. >> the angler continue on this. there are people directly involved in setting this up. imagine that a lot of folks up the food chain involved in this. other conferences like it. it will spur congressional oversight. chairman issa of the oversight committee has shown interest in this investigation. you are right, just the kind of thing you think can't be happening anymore. not with the taxpayers dollars in this day and age. >> greta: we talk about the

oversight we want overtight before these things happen. we have want monitoring before these things happen. this was planned before october, before it happened. you think someone would get wind of it. what i put on the greta wire is the list of the two committees on capitol hill with oversight with a list of all the members of the republicans and democrats, everyone who voted on greta wire.com, see if your senator or member of congress is one of those that didn't do oversight and cost incredible money. think of what this could do for any community. we wonder why we're in debt in this country. >> indefensible. you're not seeing anyone try to defend it. that's why the white house is trying to get in front of it. the report got released today, they announced martha johnson the head of the gsa was stepping down and two deputie deputies. there is possibility of other people that will lose their job over this as well. this is 300 government employees who had a heck of a great time it sounds like in the las vegas area at a time where everyone is cutting back, everyone knows that the government has to do more with

less, we get a lot of promises about efficiency. see something like this is just something that rubs a lot of people the wrong way. >> greta: rick, thank you. >> thanks. >> greta: coming up, the last call before you reach for that soda. yes, even a diet soda. you want to hear a new warning. that's next. in florida we had more suntans... in alabama we had more beautiful blooms... in mississippi we had more good times... in louisiana we had more fun on the water. last season we broke all kinds of records on the gulf. this year we are out to do even better... and now is a great time to start. our beatches are even more relaxing... the fishing's great. so pick your favorite spotn the gulf... and come on down. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home.

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