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good morning, everybody on a friday. fox news alert. a brand new video showing federal employees mocking you, the taxpayer for the money the government spends. watch here. ♪ . bill: that is a government employee in a video uncovered by a house committee who later won an award for all that. good morning. some days you can't make it up. martha: it would be funny if it want so sad. good morning, everybody. good morning, bill. i'm martha. the gsa is even in more hot water right now after a lavish las vegas conference that cost nearly a million dollars of your taxpayer dollars. that paid for also among all of this, a $2,000 party that was apparently hosted by the actual commissioner. if you're a vip come up to the lotf suite for the party
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with the submissioner. $6,000 for one of these. doesn't everyone need a commemorative coin set to recognize the occasion. and 2,000 for the mind readers. send in the clowns. bill: the mind reader would tell you this is not a good idea. the video surfaces and the controversy far from over. we'll talk to a congressman in moments. says that agency is treating your tax dollars like it is your own private slush fund that is coming up. fox news alert. monthly new jobless numbers out. the economy adding 120,000 jobs in march. the smallest increase in five months. at the same time, unemployment rate dropping slightly, 8.2%. down a .1 from the month of february. stuart varney host of "varney & company" from the fox business network. you do not like this number. why? >> it is a very weak number. it's very disappointing. it suggests that the
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recovery has stalled. 120,000 new jobs is a very low number. it means job creation in fact has been cut in half since february. bill, you may be seeing the very first signs of an impact from much higher gasoline prices. that may be why job creation is so far down. bill: let me come back to that point. why did the rate go down if that number is so weak, stuart? >> there is explanation for that one. 164,000 people dropped out of the workforce. the labor force shrank by 164,000 people. when you do that, you tend to get the rate down. that is what happened. that explains what might appear at first site to be good news. a small drop in the unemployment rate. but dig a little deeper there is a big negative there. people are walking away from the work to force. bill: you mentioned this a lot in the past week. you think gas prices are a problem? >> i'm looking for a big explanation. why was job creation suddenly cut in half between
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february and march? why is that? you can talk about the weather. it was pretty good. that would ensurge job creation. the only explanation i come up with seeing these numbers for half an hour, the higher gas prices are beginning to take their toll. bill: stuart, thank you, see all the 9:20 on fbn a lot to talk about for you today. martha. martha: let's put it in context. all the numbers we're talking about are in the thousands. in reality unemployment affects millions of people in this country. right now there are 13 million unemployed in the united states of america. five 1/2 million have been out of work for more than six months. and that first number, 13 million, that number could be deceiving as well. there are an additional eight million who are considered to be under employed who are working part time or who are working far beneath the level they were previously employed at. so context there for you in the numbers. how about this? huge story today. bombshell revelations in the nfl bounty scandal.
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this morning we have new audiotapes that have surfaced. they capture gregg williams, the former defensive coordinator for the new orleans saints not only urging his players to injure opponents but to take shots at the head and the knees of specific players. >> hit the body. make sure we kill frank gore's head. we want him running sideways. we want his head sideways. martha: we want his head sideways. unbelievable words coming from that defensive coordinator. those tapes have of course added fuel to the scandal that has been rocking the nfl. so far the nfl suspended the new orleans saints head coach sean peyton for the entire year. the team's general manager and assistant head coach also face suspensions once the season gets underway.
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julie banderas live in our new york newsroom. she is covering this story for us. julie, how did this audio get out there? >> reporter: basically a documentary filmmaker there when it all happened. he was working on a project, the huddle, when all the players get together in the locker room before they run out of the field. he was being recorded. the coach knew he was being recorded. that audio of new orleans coach gregg williams he is trying to amp up his players as you heard what was supposed to be a motivational speech prior to a playoff game against the san francisco 49'ers last january. the full speech was actually 12 minutes long but that sample recording of four minutes was released. on it you can hear williams instructing his defensive players to injure quarterback alex smith, running back frank gore and tight end vernon davis and receivers michael crabtree and kyle williams. on smith, the quarterback, he said quote, every single one of you before you get
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off the pile, affected head early, affected head. continue touch and hit the head unquote. according to the filmmaker, gregg williams pointed to his chin he would cover the bounty to hit smith right there remember me i got the first one. i got the first one. go lay that mother expletive out. end quote. williams used one of his favorite slogans in the speech, kill the head and the body will die, martha. martha: it is chilling. listening toe these audiotapes. so what is the nfl going to do with williams? the whole, many members of this whole organization are under scrutiny. >> williams left the new orleans saints two days later but they never came out and clarified he was fired. he just left. we didn't know exactly why he left in the first place. then he went to the st. louis rams to coach there with a buddy of his. he was been suspended indefinitely from the league for a year. the saints were fined $500,000 and forced to forfeit second round picks
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in the 2012, 2013 draft because of bounty scandal. nfl commissioner roger goodell and league security met with the nfl players association officials to discuss the investigation and possible penalties for others. now that audio is out there i'm sure there will be more penalties to come. martha: boy, this is a huge story, julie. thank you very much. julie banderas. >> reporter: sure. martha: we'll have more coming up later on that. saints lost the game by the way against the 49'ers. bill: this is why the commissioner was tough on penalties. he knew the audiotapes would come out. there is new reaction from attorney general eric holder about comments president made about the health care law. writing letter to the administration that the does respect the authority of the supreme court. early in the week the president set off a flurry of reaction when he said this. >> i'm confident that the supreme court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary
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step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected congress. bill: peter doocy. more reaction in washington. peter, good morning. what is in the letter by the way? was it three pages or four pages? >> reporter: it was three pages almost, bill. in it the attorney general backs up his boss president obama by making clear the two of them are on the same page. he writes at the end of this letter where the justice department's position is made crystal clear the attorney general writes that the power of the courts to review the constitutionality of legislation is beyond dispute. so there may be no dispute but there is a suggestion that the branches of our government should respect the work of the other branches. here's another quote. while duly recognizing the court's authority to engage in judicial review, the executive branch is often urged the courts to respect the legislate tiff judgment
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of congress. a former clerk for the fifth circuit court of appeals for judge smith who asked the attorney general for this letter says that its content shouldn't be surprising. >> there's no other answer the attorney general could have given. taking any different position would have been an earthquake for our constitutional structure. this is the absolutely only answer there is, the only answer he could have given. >> reporter: and about that letter's length again, bill. judge smith asked for three pages single-spaced. even though on three pieces of paper there is a lot of room at bottom on the third page. bill: a lot of room for notes in the future i would imagine. is this satisfying republicans are they okay with it or not, peter? >> reporter: doesn't sound like they're okay. an hour before the letter became public the senate's top republican if the president will challenge the judiciary branch the system, the american system is in trouble. >> i would respectfully suggest that the president needs to back off, back off.
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let the court do its work. let our system work the way it was intended to work. the stability of our system and our laws and our government depends on it and duties of the presidency demand it. >> reporter: we still don't know if judge smith is going to include this letter from the doj in his opinion but holder writes on page one it should not be regarded as a supplemental brief. back to you. bill: we'll let them interpret that. thank you, peter doocy live in washington on that. so you almost got three pages. 2 1/2. three physical pages. martha: when teacher writes at the bottom, see me. we may see some kind of follow-up on that in that forum. those are a few of the stories we're following for you on this friday morning. how about this, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell saying that the president quote, crossed the line, with his comments on the supreme court case. did he really? a fair and balanced debate coming up. bill: a dangerous epidemic
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inside america's medicine cabinet. a shocking report on soaring painkiller prescriptions and the toll that is taking. >> more on that. video that has sparked outrage over wasteful government spending. republican congressman jeff dunham says your tax dollars are being used as a slush fund. oh, boy. he is next. we'll be right back. ♪ . call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm.
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martha: texas governor rick perry issuing a disaster declaration for three counties. they all sustained widespread damage following this week's tornados. governor perry says early assessments show nearly 650 structures were affected. as many as 12 twisters tore through that area on tuesday. the governor also suggests
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that the state will eventually ask for federal disaster aid to help rebuild from the storm losses. bill: there is new outrage now over a video showing federal employees bragging about the money they spend by the federal government. it is your money. watch here. >> ♪ a brand new computer and corner office with a scene ♪. bill: the video actually mocks the lack of oversight over the spending that is conducted. general services administration known as the gsa, already in big trouble for spending nearly a million dollars at an event in las vegas back in 2010. republican congressman jeff denham out of california is hot about this. good morning to you, and welcome to "america's newsroom." you say this government is using taxpayer dollars in a slush fund? explain that. >> it is a slush fund and it's an outrage.
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people across the nation should be outraged at this. it's over a million dollars that they have had this lavish party. they have given out gifts to employees and now recently we just found out that the director of the region got a bonus. he wasn't supposed to get a bonus. they had denied him the bonus. then the director came in and said you're going to get 10% plus bonus this year. so --. bill: is this why americans have such a hard time trusting government? because what it begs, it begs the question how much more of this is being spent that we don't know just yet? >> absolutely. the fact that they're bragging about not having an investigation and then we have an investigation and find this out, you know, it's, it's amazing there is this kind of waste out there and even more amazing they're out there bragging about it. it has to stop. the obama administration let this go on for too long. this was back in 2010 this
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came out. this is one region. there are 11 regions just in this one area for gsa. this money should be going to redevelop our buildings, sell off some of the wasted buildings that we're not using right now. these vacant buildings that we're trying to liquidate across the nation. bill: a couple of people have been fired. a couple of people resigned too. here is what the gsa said in a statement on screen. this video is another example of complete lack of judgement during the 2010 western region's conference. that was in vegas as i mentioned. our agency continues to be appalled by this indefensible behavior. we're taking every step possible to insure nothing like this ever happens again. remember 2008 everybody was railing against these conferences. this is 2010, only two years later we were still really in the depths of a tough economic time. to you and all the folks in washington, you're going to investigate this but what can you uncover and what can you stop in the future? >> well, i'm not convinced they have changed their ways. again this started in 2010,
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from this investigation. they have had two years to clean this up. so they knew that this happened. they knew that these people could have been fired two years ago and yet they have let it go on. so i want to see greater transparency. again this is one region. there are 11 regions just in gsa. there are many other agencies that spend money like this. we've got to make it stop. right now we have huge unemployment. in my area we're double the national average. people are hurting. people want their potholes fixed and to have this kind of spending going on, i think taxpayers across the nation should be outraged and should voice their opinion. bill: we still have the connection, if i do i will ask you one more question. $6,000 on commemorative coins? it is tone deaf, is it not? >> it is. and i do find it somewhat comical that the chem mem a tiff coins were on the stimulus package. bill: that is ironic. jeff denham, thank you, republican out of california. have a good weekend if you can. >> thank you.
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bill: martha, what is next. martha: he said the president quote, crossed a dangerous line. mitch mcconnell calling out president obama. a great panel on this whole supreme court issue coming up straight ahead. plus a new report has sparked fears of a nationwide epidemic in. how prescription painkillers are threatening to become the new drug of choice in this country. back in "america's newsroom" after this. [ grandfather ] that a boy!
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bill: 22 minutes past the hour. i ace mac attack. ago fwres sieve kmoou new computer virus affecting apple computers. normally known for not being affected by computer viruses. the nuclear plant in southern california, two reactors there have been sidelined for months. the self-proclaimed mega millions winner in maryland
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now saying she can't find her ticket. merlande wilson previously said she was hiding the ticket at the mcdonald's where she worked. i am shocked, shocked that she can't find the ticket. martha: call me crazy i'm skeptical about the story. bill: does the ticket exist? the lottery officials believe they sold the ticket, right? martha: where is it is the question. she thinks she locked it now. it was at mcdonald's. maybe someone got it in their french fries. bill: maybe she needso supersize that. martha: there is a new ap report that shows that americans are downing massive amounts of prescription pills. this is fueling fears of a nationwide epidemic. listen to this. right now seven million people in this country use prescription drugs for nonmedical reasons. seven million. this dwarfs the 1 1/2 million people in the united states who are addict todco cain. it is a huge problem. deaths from painkillers,
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nearly quadrupling in the last 10 years to nearly 15,000 people who have died from addiction to these painkillers, far surpassing number of those who decided from heroin and cocaine abuse combined. think about that. we're joined by a doctor who is a former emergency room doctor and former chief operating officer for blue cross blue shield and former assistant secretary of defense for health affairs. doctor, good to have you here today. >> nice toe be here, martha. martha: i think it is important to shed light on this issue and talk about it because it is in many ways sort of the sleeping killer in this country right now. >> there's no question about that. it is a big problem. it's getting worse and, we need to be more aggressive in dealing with it. the volume of use of prescription painkillers has gone up by over a thousand, 500 to 1,000% in the last decade. i will add another statistic
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to the one that you shared and that is that in 2010, the most recent year which we have information, 110 tons of oxycodone and hydrocodone, the two active ingredients in these narcotic painkillers, was prescribed. that's enough for 65 pills for every single american. martha: wow. >> think about that. i mean it is just stunning. martha: it is. >> it's a big problem. martha: when you look at it you think about marijuana, you think about cocaine. you think about other drugs. when you go after them you try to crack down on them getting illegally into the country, for example. then the drug trade in those is illegal. a lot of it fueled by cartels. you put that to the side and you look at this issue, in order to get them you have to have a prescription from a doctor or a forged prescription at the very worst from a doctor. then you've got to get it from a pharmacy that apparently should have some kind of record about your prescriptions and when is the right time for them to be filled. >> well, that's right. and in this case, there are
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pretty good records, electronically for the volume of these medications and, in this case the story today was about the dea actually looking at the chain drug stores, the cvs. they looked at recently, cardinal health, now walgreens and others and surely there is a need to look at that. but i would say speaking as a physician you start with the doctor. the doctor has to write that prescription. that's where it starts. i think the state medical boards, as well as the health insurance plans who also know what these doctors are doing, they have records they can get at, they need to go after these bad actors. some of it really is truly bad actors. others of it mom or dad has surgery and really probably too much prescription painkiller is given post-surgery and then the young child goes in, the teenager, to steal pills out of mom or dad's medicine cabinet. and that's part of the problem as well. martha: as you point out you
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have to get it every step of the chain, the doctor, pharmacy and then the use at home. a lot of times people are prescribed these things for legitimate purposes and they have a really difficult time getting off of them and become addicted to them. doctor, thank you so much. good to speak it with the you. we'll talk more in the future. >> thank you. bill: they get so much attention. this is not one of them the only getting worse. can you refuse to hire someone because they weigh too much? a new controversy over a business saying that the obese need not apply. we'll take you there. martha: plus there is new fallout today from the president's controversial statements about the supreme court's consideration of his health care bill. the stakes could not be higher in this fight right now and now mitch mcconnell says the president has quote, crossed a dangerous line in his opinion. >> i won't mount a political campaign to delegitimatize the court the way some in
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bill: huge plumes of smoke in the town of homs. that has been a flashpoint for months. the fighting comes days after a troop pullback was scheduled and agreed to by syrian president assad. amy kellogg live on this in london. continued fighting there clear from that video. what are the chances that this brokered peace deal works or even sticks, amy? >> reporter: bill the skepticism mounts as these attacks seem to get harsher. what seems to be happening is ba'asyir assad's armeys are using last days before the april 10th deadline for withdrawal to gain as much ground as they can. they are afraid when they start to pull back the rebels will gain ground. they want to weaken the opposition as much as they can before april 10th. this amateur video which appears to show fresh fighting in homs. the usual caveats with
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foreign journalists have little access to syria the veracity of footage is hard to assess. the raids in damascus of suburbs of damascus. 2800 refugees poured into turkey yesterday from syria. that is twice the highest number to date of an exodus. they carry stories of, horror stories of helicopter gunship attacks and that sort of thing. the u.n. saying that 9000 people have been killed by oilist forces inside syria, bill. bill: remarkable. you are still four days away from that deadline. amy kellogg in london on that. >> the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell called out the president over his comments on the supreme court and their decision about his huge and important health care law. listen. >> the president crossed a dangerous line this week and anyone who cares about liberty needs to call him
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out on it. martha: strong comments from mitch mcconnell. just yesterday, attorney general eric holder wrote that letter that was requested from the fifth circuit assuring them that the administration does indeed respect their authority and he went into more detail there which we'll get into in a moment. joined by a great panel to discuss this. juan williams, fox news political analyst. brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to president george w. bush and jay sekulow, chief counsel for the american center for law and justice. gentlemen, welcome, good to have you here. >> good morning. martha: good morning to all of you. i want to start with you, jay. when you look through some of the comments that are said in this eric holder letter which we all remember was requested about by the fifth circuit judge who basically said he wanted a three-pain paper on what the president had said. give me your response to the letter and i want to you ask in detail about it. >> well, you know, of course the attorney general had no choice but to respond. the fifth circuit had the authority to ask for a letter brief on a topic
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raised by the administration. that was whether the court could strike down a law as unconstitutional. the president seemed to be questioning that. so the department of justice wrote that letter brief but they hedged it. they didn't back away from the president's position. they basically tried to put it in a different context or a more complete context. but the end result was this was a injury, if you will, brought on by the administration itself. the fifth circuit i think like a lot of judges were really put off by the president making the statement about it would be judicial activism if a court declared a act of congress unconstitutional which has never been considered judicial activism since 18 owe 3, marbury versus madison. they thought they had to do they responded to the fifth circuit. they hedged their bets. that's why we're still talking about it on friday. martha: one quick question for you. this sentence in the letter because we have raised the whole issue whether or not the court has the right to
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overturn something that congress has passed, right? here is quote from the letter. the supreme court further explained this power may only be exercised in appropriate cases. if a disput is not a proper case or controversy, the courts have no business deciding it. i would raise the question, didn't the courts by virtue of the fact they decided to take this case on, to hear this case and beyond that to hear it quickly, didn't they in that action decide that it is in their power to make that judgement about whether or not the law's constitutional? >> well sure. you know, in appropriate circumstances what the court was talking about i can not believe the department of justice put that in the letter because in that kind of situation they're talking about the court will not give advisery response opinions there has to be article 3 case in controversy, a real dispute. trust me on the health care issue there has been a real dispute between the lawyers representing the states and the department of justice. so i think it was, again, kind of a misused, interesting, martha what that sentence really means
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when the court says in appropriate circumstance. >> very, very interesting. let's talk about the politics as well. let's talk about mitch mcconnell. brad, i want to get your thoughts on this because he has clearly laid down the gauntlet on this issue in terms of the presidential political race is not going to go away. >> absolutely not if anything it turned the heat up on the president. as a lawyer i saw the president's comments as extraordinary. i see it akin to jury tampering the case put in was put in by his representative the solicitor general. oral argument was had. briefs submitted. the jury is out. the nine justices who can make their determination quickly or make it over time as the opinions are circulated amongst themselves. for the president to directly make this communication to the court was wrong. it was way beyond the bounds of what a president should do. the president and his staff knows that the president overstepped his bound. but they're digging in on it and politically it will hurt him. martha: they are digging in on it.
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juan, that raises the question of why? is this an election year political play to say to the president's supporters, look, you need me in this job for another four years because look at the way these judges ruled on something that he believes is so important in terms of the coverage for health care of americans? is that part of what we're seeing here? >> the court hasn't ruled, martha. the issue is still under their consideration. i think the bigger point for the president is simply that if this court lacks independence, if it has become a political mouthpiece for republican talking points, which is, a lot of the arguments that was heard on the court on the, the mandate issue on, on the affordable health care act, really hurt the court's image. if you look at polls, americans felt that became just a political argument as opposed to an argument on the facts of the case and, and i think people think that the court should act with some deference to the
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congress and to the president. but here was a case where people felt, you know what? given what's happened in the recent history, bush v. gore, citizens united basically said corporations and the rich can control much of the political process, i think the court has been hurting itself. the court lacks independence. someone should call them out on it and this is case where the president did. whether the president stepped over the line and is trying to influence the jury as we heard this morning, i think the president clearly sent a shot across the bow of chief justice roberts by saying --. martha: interesting take, juan. >> he is going to get a shot across the bow back, martha. juan, with due respect, i wouldn't be questioning the independence of the supreme court of the united states. they have shown themselves to be independent. number one. >> come on. bush v. gore, 55-4 vote. every vote, 5-4. >> we live in public. not every vote. >> every vote on the court is going to be purely partisan and extension of
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the kind of pole la race we see in congress. >> you know what? juan, when you have elections there is consequences. presidents get to nominate and appoint justices that they agree with on judicial philosophy. that is number one. number two the fact you disagree with the opinion of the supreme court doesn't make it, and we don't even know what the opinion will be. >> that's right, i don't know. >> he called them unelected judicial activists if they strike this law as unconstitutional. give me a break. >> aren't you mr. judicial restraint, jay? aren't you one judges should stay out of politics? >> let's remember one thing. martha: that is the reason they're unelected. they're in that position for life and will be unpolitical and driven by their interpretation of the constitution. >> exactly. martha: when they make that decision. it is interesting, you guys. and great discussion on it. we'll continue this in days to come. >> thanks. martha: thank you so much. >> you're welcome, martha. martha: we'll look for you in the big chair tonight on
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"the o'reilly factor" filling in tonight. thank you, gentlemen. see you then, juan. bill: power panel right there. they start a fraternity. >> excellent. bill: kind of. an employer has a message for those who are overweight. do not apply here. and did you know that could be entire letter legal? a wild police chase that could not have come at a worse time. whoa. [ male announcer ] capri sun has 25% less sugar than leading regar juice drinks. because less sugar is a better way to fly. ♪ just not literally. capri sun. respect what's in the pouch.
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i bet. this is the hubos. a group of robots performing a classic beatles tune, "come together". with no apologies to john lennon apparently. students at drexel university developed the software and that allows all the robots to hit the right notes. i feel comfortable robots will not take over the music charts when they listen to this. bill: how come? martha: technically interesting. that is no beatles. bill: you know what is next? martha: what's next? bill: robots? martha: yeah. bill: cable news anchors. martha: no. bill: new questions now surrounding a hiring policy that tells people who are packing on too many pound to look elsewhere for a job. citizens medical center, victoria, texas, refusing to hire anyone with a body mass index of 30 or higher? is this legal. a business law attorney. lis weill, former federal prosecutor. fox news analyst. how are you both doing today. >> happy friday. bill: to you as well.
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lis, what do you think of this? >> technically under the texas statute it is legal and it is wrong and shouldn't be legal. it is discrimination. no reason that somebody who is overweight can't do that job. unless you're on the rockettes in radio city music hall and have to look like everybody else and part of your job, is being overweight you can't be in the medical industry. bill: the hospital is saying they have to set the example for health. what do you think, seth? >> i agree it is not a smart or diplomatic policy. when you do something like this you eliminate the best and brightest but doesn't make it illegal. employment law are very specific. they talk billion protected classification. congress might change their mind and add this down the road. it is not unlawful discrimination. there is no such thing as weight discrimination following under employment law. i do agree, when running organization and apply human resource guidelines you have to apply what is legal but what's smart.
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don't eliminate the best and brightest so your organization can be successful. bill: that is the big difference there. what is smart and what the image is. what the hospital is trying to do is cast an image that is favorable for their patients. body mass index, by the way, here's what they say. if you're less than 35, if you're 5'5" and 210 pounds you can't work here. if you're 5'10" and greater than 245 pounds, you can not work here. bmi by the way measures your height and weight and reveals level of body fat you have. >> bill, think about it, fill the gap? cases where you can't go in, look a certain way. abercrombie & fitch has been sued time and tile again because of that. it has nothing to do with doing the job, to look a certain way. the other point is, i said first, probably legal under texas statute but i think it is illegal under federal law. here's my analysis on that. if you're obese that can be considered a disability. americans with disabilities act which is federal statute says you can not
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discriminate for disabilities. voila, if you're obese that is a disability, you can't discriminate under federal law. bill: is that a legitimate argument. >> that is interesting argument and i understand that the problem under the ada, americans with disabilities ability, you have to have a specific disability that actually impairs daily life activity. just because people have a weight problem doesn't mean they qualify to have an impairment that limits substantially daily life activity. so i agree it is an interesting argument. they could try to argue that but it really doesn't meet that qualification. bill: doesn't look like the hospital will reverse itself. michigan only state that. >> washington state as well. >> santa cruz, cities across the country. combination of the federal law the fact that this is lookism, discriminatory, wise up, texas hospital. bill: seth, last word of the does the hospital have a point when trying to promote good health. >> i understand they want to
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rear tires. that is hard to do at 75 miles an hour. the suv eventually coming to a stop. officers draw their guns, this is how it ends, like they all do. the suspect taken into custody. martha: so christians are marking good friday today in many places around the world. of course in the holy land as well. thousands of faithful, remembering crucifixion of jesus christ in prayers and processions throughout jerusalem's old city. look at those images. just incredible. leland vittert joins us live. he is in jerusalem. leland, tell us a little bit how people are commemorating this day in the holy land? >> reporter: martha, the biggest march down the via dolorosa, translates the way of grief. that is the way jesus walked through the old city. people from all over the world are here. it is a celebration of jesus's life but remembrance of the man who paid the ultimate sacrifice for something he believed in.
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many of the groups here representing a cross as they make this pilgrimage here. people pray and sing in ever imagineable language it shows how diverse the community is here. people come from all over the world to walk in the footsteps of jesus and they say being here on these stones makes them feel so much closer to their faith. >> to follow the life of jesus, this person that you read about your whole life, who you have prayed to and follow his life as a real person is just an amazing experience. >> reporter: there are a total of 14 stations of the cross where jesus was convicted. this is the third station of the cross where the bible says he fell down, carrying his load. and then proceeded off to the church of the holy sepulchure where he was crucified. >> for all christians you can't help it but grow spiritually to love him more when you actually follow in his footsteps.
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>> reporter: this good friday is also the eve of the first day of passover which begins tonight at sundown. security here in israel is incrediblely tight just in the old city. there were hundreds of soldiers and police. across the west bank the israelis sealed it off preventing palestinians coming here into israel. also, martha, we heard the israeli army canceled their annual holiday leave to keep more soldiers on base just in case anything happens. back to you. martha: understandable. what an incredible experience for those christians making that walk. leland, thank you so much. great, great video. great pictures. bill: something you remember for an entire lifetime and for good reason. god breaking news from the white house. president obama set to speak at a women's economic forum. after accusing republicans on a war on women, republicans are fighting back. we'll tell you how. martha: it is 100 years since the sinking of the titanic. we have brand new pictures of the luxury sea liner in a
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martha: this is fox news alert. the president business to take the stage at a women's economic forum. that stem narcotic will feature panels about business, women's education, jobs and healthcare. the event is being called a stunt by some republicans, after fighting back after saying they are in a war with women. brian briebus says this is a phony scandal. we have a fai fair & balanced debate a few minutes from now. is the white house and republican party at war with women? a second round of green loans is
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on the way. the obama administration will take applications just months after the so linda compan solyndra company and other companies are under a massive investigation. a gorgeous spring day. we start a new hour of "america's newsroom" with me, martha maccallum. bill: and me, bill herm. you look great by the way. martha: you do to. bill: happy easter to you. the republicans say the white house energy plan is draining your taxpayer dry. the president may actually agree with that. we found this from four years ago, 2008. >> if somebody wants to build a coal power plant they can, it's just it will bankrupt them because they will be charged a huge some for all that greenhouse gas that is being emitted. under my plan of a cap and trade system the electricity rates would necessarily sky pocket. martha: great, that sounds good,
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char here hurt joins us now, a columnist for the washington times. good morning, charlie. martha: good morning, martha. >> that doesn't sound like an awful the above strategy. >> i don't think president obama would like team to replay that snippet too often right now as people stop by the gas station and see gas prices at $ $4 a gallon. i think this is a strategy by president obama to play for his base, to play for the kind of double down on this whole strategy are spending money that we don't have, on gam gambles that we don't know will work and have a very bad track record so far, like solyndra where we lost so much money in loan guarantees. other people who support these projects that are in line to get more federal loan guarantees are
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huge supporters of obama, and they are rounding up money as we speak to su support his re-election bid. while it's a very dangerous strat yee strategy. they are looking at their re-election calm main and they know what they need to do is shore up the base. martha: it brings in fundraising dollars and works to rally the base and environmentalist who are clearly part of that business and supportive of these kind of prope projects. what it doesn't speak to is the independent voter, which has been up in arms not to do the keystone pipeline, which has become symbolic of a true awful the above strategy, right? >> absolutely. martha to me it's so startling because the 2008 campaign was a very smart campaign that he ran
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and he had a very good ear for things. this right here is such a tin ear, i cannot believe that they are actually sort of going forward witness. a with it. as you say it is the independent voters, those that aren't necessarily politically set, and they do fill up their gas tanks and they don't like high gas prices or a bad economic. if this election turns out to be the economy and gas price, as i'm sure it will be -- let's not forget the energy prices are the single most important factor in terms of the economy recovers or not. if the election is about that this is a terrible strategy. i think that -- and especially with a nominee like mitt romney who may not be the sexist guy on earth, the greatest speaker on earth, but he knows business and people trust him on these sort of economic issues, and i think that the contrast is it couldn't
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be more stark here. martha: it could shape up to be a very interesting general election debate. charlie hurt thank you very much from washington. bill: uncle sam putting big bucks on the table for the first person who can invent something that already exists. they are offering a $1,000 nor a mobile lamp to tell consumers how much electricity you're using. you'll find two dozen programs that do exactly that already through apps. some of them are free. they can remotely control your lights, curtains, turn air-conditioning on, off when you're not around. martha: you're saying they already have that and they are spending a hundred thousand dollars to have that developed. bill: i think they call this a duplicate. martha: i think they do. bill: fox news alert where the white house is now responding the unemployment numbers just released last hour.
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this is what we got 90 minutes ago showing a slow down in hiring last month, employers adding only 120,000 new jobs in march, the smallest increase we've seen in five months. gene sperling director of the economic council says the economy is recovering but still has a long way to go. republican presidential candidate mitt romney says the white house is running out of excuses. let's bring in liz claym ark n here, fox news. there's economics to talk about here. why can't we get it going at a better pace. >> we had it started, and this report is how teenagers would say is a total buzz kill. it's a disappointment to see job group that is nearly chopped in half from the expectation. the expectation was 203,000, we got this 103 that you. when you tkeul dig in there and
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start to pull it apart. i spent all morning looking for the silver linings here because we like to be optimistic in the business world. bill: did you find one. >> manufacturing growing at 37,000. retail jobs fell by 34,000. there is this believe because the weather has been so good on the east coast people push their hiring up to the front part of the year and they kind of stopped in the front of march. bill: you find 164 americans stopped looking for a job. and they do that when what, the unemployment benefits run out, what they get discouraged or both? >> exactly. a little bit of both. people ran out of unemployment be benefits and that starts to play into the picture. they do get discouraged or go into training programs. again, we try to be optimistic but it's very tough to spin that into a positive number. bill: stewart varney was talking last hour.
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he really this is gas prices as a lot to do with this. >> very much so. we spoke with timothy geithner, and he said this is one of his concerns that high gasoline prices suck up whatever wage growth is seen. average hourly earnings ticked up, then that gets absorbed by higher gasoline prices. bill: mitt romney says the market remains stagnant and the president has run out of excuses. look for this to be an ongoing deal. liz, love your peurpl by th purple, by the way. martha: democrats claim they are waging a war on women. this is a hot catch phrase of the work. they say it is actually president obama's policies that are leaving women behind. we'll have a fair & balanced debate coming up on that one sthao there i.
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bill: there is damaging information about the coach who has since been given the death sentence for his coaching. what does it say about the league and the smoking gun that you will hear live in "america's newsroom." bernie goldberg joins us to anal hraoeutz impact of that. martha: we have a follow-up on a story we did for you the other day, about a school that wanted to take the word "god" how the of the song, "god bless america." why they are now singing a different tune on that. ♪ i won't forget the men who died that gave that right to me. ♪ i'd glad destand u gladly stand up next to you. ♪
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martha: we are waiting for a white house forum to get underway, the subject of the day are women, the economy and business matters related to that. the g.o.p. is slamming the administration calling this forum a stunt that is part of a fabricated war on women launched by the republicans is the background here, let's listen. >> according to jay carney it has nothing at all to do with the election. they actually think they can say that and do it with a straight face and get away witness. i mean all administrations use taxpayers money to promote themselves in an election here but this is pretty shamless and over the top. martha: charles krauthammer last night on special report. joined by mary katherine ham a columnist for a paper and the fox news contributor. and doug schoen, an author who has a new book coming out. mary catherine, you're a woman, doug your not.
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let's make it clear from the outset here. what do you think of this forum? is it ramped up, is it a good time? i think eye been planned for some time before this conversation came up. >> all of these things are political. that's the way things go. it's part of his campaign. they see a vulnerability in the g.o.p. democrats are a little bit scared on this issue. i think this is part of the reason for this being so ramped up because the g.o.p. had a slight edge with women in 2010 partly because of economic issues. i also think that the president wants to stay on this distraction, such that it is and maybe spend the entire rest of the month talking about the policies at augusta national instead of the policies of his administration which have unemployment up among women. i think that's what might be behind this. martha: deal with the headline for us doug, first here. you're a pollster, when you look at the numbers is there any real problem with women? >> absolutely. a, it's a political event, i agree with that.
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the gallop data from swing states shows an 18% advantage for democrats among women and men effectively tied or a slight g.o.p. advantage. bottom line, women are providing more than 90, 90% of the margin that president obama is now enjoying over mitt romney, and that's why the white house is going to continue driving this message that there is a war on women. martha: why do you think the is, doug? >> i think three things. first, the issue of contraception, economic security, and a perception as lisa murkowski said, go talk to your children and grandchildren and you'll see that they perceive republicans as hostile to women, and that's the argument that the obama administration is going to keep driving. martha: i'm not sure that is the case. i've also seen polls that show that women did not think that the contraception issue was a huge issue for them when it comes to the 2012 election. most of them do not think there is any threat of that kind of
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coverage being taken away from them. they are not overly concerned with that. when you break down men and women they are concerned about the same things men are concerned about, which is the economy. >> the economy has to be the number one issue. i think the continue september tiff thing was holy elected. the left decided two months ago that it was a violation of your rights as a women to have to pay a co-pay for contraception. the coverage of it was very biased. that doesn't change the fact that it's a problem the g.o.p. has to overcome. talking about economic issues and saying, look the president hasn't done you a lot of goods when it comes to unemployment, healthcare rising, you're premiums going up. talk to women about those issues and you'll get their attention. not the much on the left you like is voting on this contraception scare is what it was. martha: one thing that come up is the security, they are
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arguing that the administration has provided for women, in terms ever education and retirement, basically the same that they secured for men and women. employ tebgting alprotecting those is one of the cornerstones and motive. >> politics is compared to what? while you're absolutely right, both of you are correct that the obama administration is vulnerable, because the republicans have had a devisive primary and mitt romney has focused on negative ads he hasn't articulated a clear message and women are particularly sensitive and supportive of entitlement programs, medicare, medicaid, social security, that's why the democrats are going to drive this issue which ultimately could bring them to victory in december. martha: this is the most essential issue of this discussion. should augusta allow women to be members. >> absolutely. i think it's high time that
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augusta have women, sure. martha: mary catherine, what do you believe? >> i can't believe we are talking about it. it's a private club in augusta, georgia. martha: absolutely, i'm on board too. sign up augusta women at augusta. obviously it's up to augusta to decide whether they want to admit women. i think it makes them look silly not not have women members. bill: as sure as the dog woods bloom in early april. martha: i didn't hear you say what you think so. bill: i think augusta can do what it wants. if the members want to change it they can change it, and if they want to drop their membership they can. look, if i were a member at augusta i would gladly invite you to be my playing partner. martha: let in a girl. isn't that nice of you. i didn't hear you say i would be a member. bill: if you wanted to be a member i'd take the up with the guys. i think i'm in trouble.
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martha: i think you are. i think you are. half a dozen names being tossed around as potential running mates nor mitt romney. if romney is the nominee we should add. who do you have your money on? we have a short list we believe 0, right? martha: a school official says he was planning to bul bully a fellow student. >> i've had a lot of support so far. i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different.
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learning what kind of boat it was. it's a beautiful day out there in the harbor. somebody out on their boat and apparently they ran into a bit of trouble. we'll see if we can get a little bit more information as it comes n. a beautiful shot of the harbor today. bill: the fate of healthcare overhaul in the hands of the supreme court. we won't have an answer for a few months. questions continue to swirl about what happens if the court strikes this down, including this one. because you idea, bya, donald michaels of oregon says, if obamacare is struck down what happens to the $500 billion scheduled to be taken out of medicare. john f u.n. g with medicare. what does happen. >> a mess. obviously millions and millions of americans depend upon medicare. if all of obama care is thrown out as unconstitutional, because
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they can't figure out to work together without the individual mandate, at that point congress is going to have a problem. a lot of the cause have started, cuts in home healthcare and cuts in home advantage. they are already in the pipeline. the precedent is those cuts will stand, the ones in the first two or year of obamacare. the rest will be thrown out as invalid. the second part is let's say the supreme court doesn't throw out of obamacare, it throws out the individual mandate and medicare provisions, the medicare cuts are almost impossible to push through because they basically resolve around making sure doctors get paid less and less reimbursements for every visit. doctors right now don't want to see medicare patients because payments are being ratcheted down. most doctors don't take medicare
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patients. the real cuts that will happen is to medicare advantage, a program that about 23% of seniors belong to. it's a supplement to medicare, privately managed. it involves wellness programs, gym membership, a whole range of things that aren't part of traditional medicare. the obama administration hates that part of the program because it's managed by private companies. bill: thank you for taking us through that. i think what you show clearly is how much of a mess this indeed is. now is any of the lodgess that you just explained to us, can that at some point, or any point an influence on how the justices decide? >> well, they are supposed to rule on the constitutional provisions, they are not supposed to look at the policy implication. bill: understood. >> it's almost impossible to separate the two. and i think what the oral arguments of the supreme court justices, both on the left and on the right showed is, they are
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very leery of picking and choosing what provisions in this 2800 page plan should be preserved and shouldn't be if they think part of it is unconstitutional. i think the consensus is that they are leaning towards getting rid of the whole thing. at that point i think we have a chance to revisit medicare, then there will be two separate debates, the democratic argument which is we have to expand immediat medicare to more and more people so more and more people get medicare. take medicare down to 55 years of age. bill: what does the republican argument says? >> we go to paul ryan's plan which gives people an individual chunk of money and they can buy their own private insurance and make their own provisions and probably have a lot more choices. bill: we're going to need a manual that thick to get us through this thing. martha: medicare will change. bill: john fun, thank you for your time, american spectator in d.c. if you want a question answered,
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compose it in the form of an email. when thisee situation comes down, waeufrlt is in june that will have a ripple affect in so many different areas. it will be a hot, hot story come summertime here. martha: a disturbing new recording that exposes the dark side of the national football league. ahead, the locker room audio that is absolutely shocking, and it shows how bad the saints bounty program really was. bernie goldberg joins us live on that story next, plus this -- >> when you get the lighting in the right place you get a good sevens the depth of the space. bill: it's amazing stuff here, that is the voice of james cameron. a hundred years ago next week. a new documentary on the titanic when the titanic sank with never before seen computer animation that sheds a whole new light on this infamous disaster.
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martha: let's take you to the white house now. the president is speaking at the women's forum on the economy. he is expected to cover a host of issues. let's listen to the president. >> private sector jobs over the past two years. more than 600,000 in the past three months alone. but it's clear to every american that there will still be ups and
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downs along the way, and that we got a lot more work to do, and that includes addressing challenges that are unique to women's economic security, challenges that have been around since long before the recession hit. that's why one of the first things i did after taking office was to create a white house council on women and girls. i wanted to make sure that every agency across my administration considers the needs of women and girls in every decision we make. and today we're releasing a report on women in the economy that looks at women's economic security through all stages of life, from young women, furthering their education and beginning their careers, to working women, who create jobs and provide for their families, to seniors in retirement or getting ready for retirement. there's been a lot of talk about women, and women's issues lately, as there should be, but
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i do think that the conversation has been over simplified. women are not some mon some monolithic group, women are not an interest group, he shupbltd be treated this way. [applause] >> woman are over half this country and in the workforce 80% of my household if you count my mother law. and i always count my mother law. martha: this is going on right now at the old executive office building next to the white house. you can watch the president's remarks in their entirety at our website streaming live at foxnews.com. bill: now to an explosive story, some are calling it the smoking gun in the national football league. audio tapes of the team's former
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defensive coordinator in new orleans. gregg williams is his name calling on his players to intentionally injure the opposing team. a documentary recorded a message moments before a game before a game against san francisco. what you do not see is williams making hand gestures with his fingers to pay money, to takeout quarterback alex smith. >> sit right there. remember me, i got the first one. i got the first one. solei that. [bleep] on the line of scrimmage we are going to kill. [bleep] every single one of these before you get off the pile affect the head, early affect the head. continue, touch and hit the head. bill: there is a lot more on
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that tape waoerbgs just shared a portion otape. we just shared a portion of it with you. bernie goldberg is with us. you've covered head trauma quite a bit, you've one awards with regard to that. your reaction to that now. >> this is the actual sound of the new orleans saints bounty program, where they played players to put players on the other team out of commission. i heard more of the tape than you were able to lay right now and it's absolutely chilling, and not just because of the profanity, even though coach williams did drop more f bomb tph-s that meeting than the u.s. dropped in world war 2 roam roefpl. worlworld war i. i. violence is inherent in the nfl,
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if you didn't have violence you'd have tennis or golf over something. he crossed the line because he told his players to target somebody on the other team who had suffered a concussion just a few weeks earlier. there is one thing the nfl won't tolerate, not any more any way, and that is head hunters. that's why this is so chilling. it sounds like a tape made by the f.b.i. secretly of a meeting of the mob, that's what this tape sounds like. bill: what it tells me is why the commissioner dealt the finest that hfi nextines that he did. and the suspension of this guy and the permanent suspension of the head coach. you new the commissioner knew these tapes existed and there was a zero tolerance for it. >> you may be right. i'm not sure if the commissioner knew when he suspended williams indefinitely about this. but i'll tell you why the
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suspensions -- when you asked me a couple of weeks ago if i thought they were too harsh i said no, and here is why. there was a time when none of us knew about the connection between hits to the head and serious brain damage. the early on set of dementia, depression, alzheimers and even lou gehrig's disease, nobody new about that. then there was a time i think when the nfl was in denial over the connection between repeated hits to the head and brain damage. but now they are not. the nfl knows about it, and they will not tolerate it. if there is one part of the body that is protected, and that is sacrosanct in the nfl it's the head. and when this guy said go after this player because he had a concussion, and let him decide, those were his words, we want him to decide, well he wasn't about to decide what color shoes he was going to wear during the game, he meant decide if he wants to play football any more. this isn't about -- bill: on top of that there was
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financial incentive to back it up. do you think -- do you think this is the end of the story, bernie or do you think there is more to the story that hasn't come out yet. >> what may come out is that's not the only team that has ever done anything like this. we are going to certainly find out about the future of this particular coach. he's been suspended indefinitely, but they were going to review that after next season, but after this i'm not making prediction, but i won't be shocked if he was out of football for good after this tape. bill: bernie goldberg, thank you out of miami today. appreciate your comments on that. >> thanks. martha: back to politics now. if mitt romney does become the nominee, who should he pick as his wing man? let the vp's begin. bill: happy days for happy meal fans. we got an update on a legal effort to ban toys from that
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bill: a judge has tossed out a lawsuit that sought to ban toys in happy meals. they claimed they were using toys to lure the kids to eat unhealthy food. that has been thrown out now, the judge says you can forget about that. those french fries are darn tasty. martha: they are the best french fries. bill: and on friday, fish
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fillet, during lent, get it. martha: back to the campaign now with mitt romney's campaign focusing it would appear on the general election at this point. the question does become, of course, who will he pick for his vice presidental candidate if he gets to that point? at least half a dozen names if not store have been bounced around in this process since the early days. you've got jeb bush, marco rubio, chris christie, a whole bunch of others in that mix. now folks are starting to really think about who that might be. bob cusack has been writing about that and talking about that, he's the managing editor of the hill. hi, bob. >> thanks nor having plea on. martha: good to have you back. you have interesting ideas about under the radar folks that you think might be real contenders there. >> i think the republicans have to win or at least do better in the hispanic votes that they are doing now. mitt romney has been criticized by republicans for his immigration rhetoric. i think you've got to look, obviously at someone like senator marco rubio. i think the sleeper is the
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governor of puerto rico, louis fort u.n. o who has served in congress. i don't think romney can pick a member of congress who has been here a longtime. marco rubio only elected in 2010 because he has run such an anti-washington campaign. it would be difficult for him to pick a long-time member of congress, whether paul ryan, or two other senators, i think they are under consideration, but he needs to pick someone not in washington for a longtime. martha: fort u.n. o is a former congressman. do you have any reporting to the fact that they are considering him with any seriousness? >> he has been asked about this. and we recently talked with him about it. now, the reason why i think he could be considered is that his fiscal record in puerto rico, he defied the odds by getting elected to congress as a republican, and he's cut the
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budget significantly in puerto rico. he is is a big backer of romney. he backed rudy guiliani in kpaeut2008, but now he is backing romney. martha: some people think the bushes and the chris christies and the marco rubios might be at a disadvantage because they might over shadow him. >> christie didn't run for president because he said he didn't feel like he was ready to be president. if you're not ready to be president, how can you be ready to be vice president, because obviously you're one heartbeat away. i do think it is an over shadowing issue with christie and bush, less so with rubio. christie can give you a every man a people, connect with blue collar workers, but could he
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over shadow, yes. martha: there's been some talk to the fact that it's very important to mitt romney, that he wants somebody that he gets along with an hasn't been that cozy with his g.o.p. contenders. paul ryan is up there. and so is rob portman, although not as well-known to a lot of people out there. >> rob portman well respected on both sides of the aisle, served as president bush's budget chief, back in the senate after he served in the house. he's certainly under consideration. he's actually helped in the deliberations on debates where he's pretended to be the democratic candidate, whether it's vp or presidential. is he under consideration? is paul ryan under s-rgs? definitely because they get along. mitt romney has to pick someone he is comfortable.
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some say that mitt romney can't pick someone who looks like him, like possibly ryan and also the governor of virginia, bob mcdonald, they kind of look alike. you want a different feel, a compliment so romney can have the strength but also deal with his weaknesses by picking his vp. martha: it's going to be an important pick as it always is in terms of the image of the whole campaign. bob cusack thank you so much. have a good weekend. happy easter. bill: the last point he makes about the virginia governor bob mcdonald, keep own on that. it worke went to obama in two. martha: only ten vf picks have helped win a state. some people say they want to keep ryan where he is in a very powerful position on the budget committee, or ways and means.
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bill: we'll find out in august. that's why we watch. jon scott standing by, what are you working on. jon: we saw the tape earlier in your program, the scandal at the general services administration is growing, the video featuring an employee at the conference rapping about how much money he and his cohorts were spending and bragging about how they would never get caught. we will play it for you again aeu haoefpld the update on the marine who was criticizing barack obama on facebook, what is going on in this case. and it's the club that sponsors the most prestigious tournament in golf, should augusta allow women to join? we'll get into it ahead, happening now. bill: good deal. we'll see you at the top of the hour here. he was accused of being a bully but the punishment his woman handed down might be worse than anything the school could have thrown at him. martha: they call it unthinkable, a hundred years ago a whole new theory now on how
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martha: a florida pheuft grader accused of bullying, finding out that a four-day suspension was just the beginning of his punishment. in fact that was the easy part. his mom didn't want him sitting around the house during that suspension, pretty smart move on the mom. she thought it would be better if he held assigns outside of the school. his mom is a corrections officer and she explained the message on
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that sign, look at that. >> he's standing holding the sign letting everyone know that he was sent to school to get an education, not to be a bully and this was not the way he was raised. martha: go, mom. good idea. the punishment is set to continue through the whole four-day suspension. wow. bill: what do you expect from boys? that's kind of like what we do when we are that age. a hundred years since the sinking of the titanic. new insight now on how the ship went down. for the first time you'll see some of this animation. michael cash ishe executive price president of the program for the national geographic. tell me what is new in this. >> cameron is an explorer at heart, he's been to the site for 30 times or more. he's been working on this for years. he got together all the leading experts and game up with the
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definitive account of what actually happened when it went down. people don't know why it went down so quickly, why it broke apart so far, and he took basically a csi approach, it was a crime scene, worked backwards from the wreckage, it's a pain steaking, fascinating effort. it's a very emotional story when you find out how it broke apart, how many lives were lost, they ask the question could more lives have been saved, and now we know more the physical nature of exactly how the ship went down. it's a fascinating story. bill: how was he able to piece that together, then? >> they mapped the wreckage site where there's debris over many miles. he's been down there 30 times. he got together with historians, architects, explorers, and they plotted where all the debris was, and then worked backwards from there to say, what could have happened when the ship broke apart? because there is still a lot of
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mystery as to why it went down so quickly. it was an unsinkable ship, come on. it was the pinnacle of human achievement and it went down so quickly, and that's why it's so interesting a hundred years later. bill: yeah, a hundred years later. what do you think that tells us either about this disaster or perhaps why the story has drawn on the page natio imagination of so many around the world for a century. >> because the biggest piece of technological advancement ever in the history of mankind. it was admittedly unsinkable. for it to go down it changed american history, the changed the way we look at technology, the world, arguably it's the most important event in the 20th century, because after that we never looked at technology or our ability to create unsinkable ships ever again. bill: we're looking forward to seeing it. thank you for sharing today,
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okay. >> thank you we'll be there sunday night. bill: it is fascinating animation, the titanic, sunday night april 8th 8:00 eastern time on the national geographic channel. that is the big debut. it's something else how a story like this holds on and captures was all these years later. martha: do you ever wonder why it's so hard to get anything done in washington? good question? john stossel has looked into all of that question -- how do they pull it off despite the red tape they have to deal with in washington. he has that. we'll be right back. get from hertz to keep the car you reserved or simply choose another. and it's free. ya know, for whoever you are that day. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz.
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