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listen very carefully. now long does a one-hour ribbon cutting ceremony take? if you work for the gsa and it's in hawaii, the answer is apparently at least five days. not only are you paying more than $800,000 for a lavish gsa convention in las vegas, you also paid for workers to scuba dive in hawaii but there's no much more. we are here with the very latest. let's start with the hawaii trip. what in the world happened here? >> greta, essentially five or six senior-level employees going to hawaii, multiple trips, staying for about a week, doing a meeting here or there, a little scuba diving and essentially doing it like an hour-long ribbon cutting, as you mentioned, for fbi office space in hawaii and then basically taking a week away from the job, five or six senior-level people on the taxpayer dime. >> is every single night they are in hawaii billed to us or
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are they only billing for the one hour? >> we have transcripts to what was told by employees to the inspector general. what they are saying is these people commonly went, extended their trips on the taxpayer dime and frequently spent a week when all it was was a cutting ribbon on some space the fbi was renting in hawaii. >> and i don't know why they couldn't have a member of congress or some federal employee who was in hawaii do the ribbon cutting. that's the trips to hawaii. now for some reason, i don't know why this one outrages me more, it's probably not even as much money, but moving someone from denver to hawaii and the taxpayers paid how much money? >> $330,000. one employee, a realtor. so you might say to yourselves, aren't there any realtors in the state of hawaii? well, the government moved one, $330,000. the taxpayers paid. and the employee, we are told, stayed for a year and then quit.
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>> who authorizes to pay to move a realtor from denver to hawaii for $330,000? >> you can bet that would be one of the central focuses of at least three congressional hearings next week. it's knot clear whether some of the people who have lost their jobs have been separated from the gsa for the las vegas debacle may have been involved in this. there are plenty more questions to be asked but there are a lot of interested folks in the capitol behind me who are going to ask those questions next week. >> last two days we find out they pay the $330,000 to move someone from denver to hawaii, they fly to hawaii for a one-hour ribbon gut cutting and a bunch stay one week on our dime, and they have an $825,000 lavish party in las vegas, and they have bonuses awards, and they give to to themselves, and the other one is the guy who went to the vegas party paying $93 a night, the government rate, but he decided to stay another night and how much did
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that cost us? >> another thousand dollars or so. it's like they thought nobody was watching. here in washington -- >> and nobody was. >> right. here in washington the gsa doesn't get a whole lot of attention. they are typically the government's landlords, if you will. now they have gotten everybody's attention. >> is there any reason to believe this is the fine night you've verse of boondoggles? >> well, asked they are going to ask every government agency for their travel records for the last five years see if this is a systemic problem across our government. we will find out. >> who discovered this? is this the inspector general at the gsa, most of this stuff. >> employees coming forward, talk to the inspector general and saying this is what i've seen. now a letter went out today for those still working there if you see something, say something. there will not be payback if you come and report it, but they are trying to clean up the mess, those who are still working there. >> i would have sent out a letter that said if you hear something before it happens, you
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know, could you please tip us off. none of this money can be collected. we are out this money. there's no way. >> absolutely right. >> mike, thank you. you have a busy week next week doing this. >> thank you, greta. >> now from taxpayer funded vacation toss lavish party there's no news about the gsa's vegas convention that will make you spitfire. words that dozen of gsa employees got bonuses for arranging the conference. yes, they got paid extra for spending your money on clowns and mind readers. and good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> you are going to have quite a week next week. tell me, who do you intend to call as a witness before your hearing? >> we certainly want to call in all of the individuals who have already been fired or are on administrative leave. but we want to go much deeper
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were we want the new acting director to come in and explain how he's made the changes so that this will never happen again. we also want to have the cfos that approved all these various expenses, everything from the latchish las vegas vacation to last year doing a trip to hawaii. this is something we've been asking for an audit on for the last year and a half. i'm a freshman, i chair the committee. we've been asking for this information and now we are demanding it. we are going to change the culture. it stops with us right here at this committee. we are going to continue to dig, and then we are going to put some transparency in lace so it never happened again. but people are outraged. i'm home in my district and people are asking me how does in happen when we've got double-digit unemployment, how is government able to do this? >> here's another one of my favorites. they deep -- i say it sarcastically. 50 employees got cash awards of $500 and a thousand dollars for their work averaging the vegas
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conference. not only do people get the free conference, $825,000 conference but they were handing out ipads and getting clowns and mind readers but there were bonuses to the ones that swindled us out of the money, bone fusses for those who arranged it. >> absolutely. at a time when the president and his administration said there are going to be no more bonuses, he made that executive director two years ago, and yesterday you are seeing an agency that not only gave out bonuses but this is corruption. this is fraud. they are taking taxpayer dollars and spending them lavishly on all these different vacations. >> if it's corruption, if it's fraud, do you have any back off if you think it's a good thing to do, to do a referral to the justice department? if they are taking money without permission, any way that suggests it is corruption or fraud as you have described, do you have any problem referring it to the justice department for an investigation? >> no. if there have been laws that are broken we absolutely need to turn that over to the authorities. and we need to prosecute to the
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fullest. we need to make an example out of people who have created this type of distrust with government. >> i'm particularly curious, maybe you will be asking about it next week, about paying the $330,000 to move someone, a realtor, apparently they don't have realtors in hawaii, to move a realtor from denver to hawaii. it cost us $330,000, and then the realtor quits in a year. i'm curious for going to particularly zero in on that one. i don't understand how you spend $330,000 in a move like that. >> no. it's embarrassing. and we are going to continue to not only dig and get a lot of this out at this first hearing, but we are going to look at possibly holding several hearings. if individuals don't show up to this hearing, we will s&p them. the bottom line is it is going to stop right here in this committee. we are going to introduce legislation to make sure we have the transparency and the american public can see. the frustrating things about this, these are all of our federal properties that we
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either lease out to other government agencies or private individuals. that money goes back into the public buildings fund and now this group in gsa has spent this money, billions of dollars, that goes into this account with no accountability, no transparishcy, no budgeting and we want to know exactly what has been spent which is why so important to have the cfo actually at our hearing to testify. >> do you know what account this is? or are there multiple accounts paying? is there a party account -- they probably don't call it a party account, maybe an incentive account or promotional took. do you know what they are called? the money is coming out of something and it is being funded from someplace, someplace on capitol hill. i'm curious do you have any idea who is writing the checks and who is saying yes and no on these? >> what. we are trying to clarify that further. but the majority of the money is being spent out of the public buildings fund, which congress does not get a chance to see. it's not an annual appropriation. it's because we have all this
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money coming in as rent being paid and billions of dollars sit in this account. you know, it should be used to redevelop buildings or sell buildings off that we aren't using. instead, you know, you can see the wasteful spending here. >> who is in charge of the public fundings fund? do you know. >> well, it went to the director at the time, which was bob peck. but certainly martha johnson, who is the president's appoint tee who was just confirmed by the senate late last year, she signs off on everything and signed off on a lot of these things. >> literally signed off? it came to her, here's -- i shouldn't say party, that's me being sarcastic but say it's a convention in las vegas, we need $875,000. is that something she would see and sign off or is it more laundered and nuance so you don't know exactly what you are signing off on? >> no, we believe? accord together inspector's general report that not only did she have direct seen off but she
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knew exactly what the line items were. and this was a party. we not only have the documentation but the videos to prove what they were doing was not something that, you know, helped out the taxpayer by any means. this was a party they got paid to show up to. their rooms and expenses were all paid for. these are penthouse suites at the m resort, 2200 square foot rooms paid for by taxpayers. >> is there any reason why -- i don't even know, scuba diving, i take it there's no sorts of good business, government reason that we should be paying for scuba diving? we made probably for their time being there but i don't know if we even paid for the scuba lessons but i guess you would agree that would be a sort of unusual skill that anyone in the gsa would need? >> absolutely. when they extend their stays as well and have their families stay over and yet that family vacation is paid for by taxpayers, absolutely, that is all fraud. and certainly the abuse that
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each of these individuals not only should be held accountable for, but should be paying them back. >> thank you, sir. good luck at your hearings. >> thank you. >> now democrats say fair share. republicans say class warfare. and they are blasting president obama's push for the so-called buffet rule. the rule would increase the capital gains tax rate for the highest earners. rnc chair try an joins us. nice to see you sir. >> hey, greta, how are you? >> good. you don't like the buffet rule? >> what you are saying across america is a picture into the world of barack obama. this president has now spent 21 public appearances, most of which have been paid for by taxpayers, on the issue of this buffet rule that does almost nothing to move the dial as far as getting our debt and deficit under control. almost nothing. >> we did a little mathematics. because i was curious whether or not you were right on this. according to the information that we've received, and of
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course, all the way sort of people do math around washington i'm careful or i hate to use any. these numbers, but $47 billion is the savings over ten years which is almost $5 billion a year, 4.7 a year. and i was also told that if it's $47 billion over ten years, if we had that money, that we could fund seven days of the federal government. >> correct. >> so it's not a very impressive number. >> but i think to the viewers i think what is most important is to see the campaign tactics of this president. that he would spend 21 public appearances on an issue that doesn't move the dial. he initially said it was to get the debts and deficits under control. now he's saying this is about fairness. >> how do you define fairness? >> fairness to me is the president trying to divide this country. that's what i think ice mode dust -- his modis operendus is
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here. what he is doing by his actions, going around the country on air force one, he's trying to play the game of class warfare, class envy. these taxpayers he is referring to are the same taxpayers he's trying to raise money from. this is a president that spends all of his time campaigning and raising money from the very same people. here's the other underlying problems with all of this. there's a lot of businesses out there in this country that will get hit with this tax. i think the last thing we need in this country is to make doing business in america even more difficult than it already is. this rule, offer whatever you want to call it, this gimmick isn't going to provide a single job to a single person in this country, but it does play into the game of barack obama spreading hate across america to divide this country. >> the way that i understand what you are saying, you are not saying that the president has a different ideology, a different
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idea how to rev up the economy or to get it rolling, if i hair correctly, you are saying he has a bad motive? >> yeah, his motive is to divide this country. >> you don't think that he thinks like every night when he gets to bed he would like to figure out a way to make this country go really right and i have a different view than the rnc. >> i'm not saying he wants things in the country to do poorly. what i'm saying is he will do anything he can to divide the country in order for him to win an election. let me put it this way. he's made a cynical, political calculation. he's look at the policy and he sees independence in america, on their poll, said i don't like the direction this country is going and i don't like the direction that barack obama is taking our economy. so what does an incumbent president do about having this group in the middle, six out of ten don't like the direction he's taking the middle, what do you do with the middle? you divide the middle. you force -- you shrink the
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middle. you force them to choose sides so the middle is smaller and he can roll his dice and take his chances across this country. >> how do you grab those votes on the middle you are talking about for your party? because i assume some of them think the republican party -- they don't want to take the tax dollars from the rich people. how do you reach out to those people? >> what you do is hold the president accountable to the words and the standards and the promises that he made to the american people. not the standards that i'm trying to -- that i'm playing politically or any sort of republican national committee type advising, but take the words that come out of barack obama's mouth four years ago. cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. create the millions of jobs from passing the stimulus. all the proms and standards that barack obama made to the american people, you show the american people those promises, and then you show the american
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people the facts on where we are in this country. and 23 you have a president who has made grand promises, simple promises, but those promises haven't been met, and you show people the facts, i think we've got a very good chance of showing the american people that you are not better off than you were three or four years ago, and more importantly, this president didn't fulfill the basic and major promises that he made across the country. he will lose in november because of that. >> ryan, thank you. nice to see you, sir. >> thank you, greta. >> straight ahead a serious medical crisis happening right now. hospitals, they are frantically trying to deal with a shortage of drugs. drugs critical to emergency room care. why can't the doctors get all the drugs they need to treat you? that's next. and our legal panel is back. there's break news out of florida more than 40 days after the shooting death of teenager trayvon martin. prosecutors made their move. find out what they did, why they did it and what is next for george zimmerman. plus it's become a big sensation
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>> this is a medical emergency. right now hospitals around the
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country are scrambling to deal with a critical drug shortage. emergency rooms are especially hard hit. an er physician joins us. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> is it true there are drug shortages? >> absolutely. every day you hear about them. especially the generic drugs that are injectable drugs. they are not profitable. turns out a lot of companies stopped making them. nobody really realized how few companies make them. some start your heart back again, all these drugs that we run these codes that ems even uses. critical drugs, drugs that stop seizures. and every day you are faced with shortages. >> real shortages where you go to the shelf and it's just not there? >> yeah, just not there. in the er we don't have the luxury of it's not an elective thing. we don't have the luxury to try to figure out another drug. and because they are generic, there are no new drugs for
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these. these are very old, old drugs of that been around a long time and nobody is making them. >> and it's all because of the profit margin? there's no profit margin so no one wants to make them? >> that's what happened. it was partially the federal government, the reimbursement was so low so the profit margin was low and they were all generic drugs and nobody was really watching how many generic drugs was making them. when it was down to a couple companies and there were manufacturings problems, supply problems. >> and i always hear these stories, someone goes to the hospital and finds out i paid $200 for an aspirin. is that just like -- is that just not true? seems like you pay an awful lot. >> i don't know about $200 -- i'm exaggerating. >> but you pay a substantial amount for an aspirin when you think it would be cheaper to send a family member down to the drugstore. >> the reimbursement is probably not that high to the pharmaceutical company and then there's other issues for that.
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i think that is happening much less now than maybe it was a long time ago. >> so what's the solution? >> i think the federal government has to work with the pharmaceutical companies and the fda, they have to make sure that enough companies are making she's generic drugs. there were manufacturing problems, they have to go -- some of them are minor things like drugs have to be thrown out because of expiration dates and things like that. >> realistically in some instances, drugs have a longer life probably than the -- >> than the expiration dates. but it's a multi-factor problem that will take a lot of people working together. >> offer the top of my head, i think if you raised the price of the drugs more people want to transfer them, right? fair enough? but then you have healthcare costs and now healthcare costs have gone up higher than we anticipated. >> it's not a simple supply and demand. it doesn't have the same economic drivers. because a lot of it is the federal government will decide on a cost of a drug through
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their agencies, and that kind of drives it down. and then, you know, there's not research going on for drugs like epinephrin to get your heart going again. >> but it works. >> it does work. >> so if it does work and for the right price, why wouldn't someone want to manufacture it? >> i think maybe there were some manufacturing glitches. injectable drugs have to be sterile. sometimes the fda comes in and inspects plants and such. they have to make sure they are happening the plants reach the good manufacturing practices that are required for these types of drugs. they have to make sure that enough people are, enough plants and generics are making the drug. they have to not completely drive the price down. >> i read an article that stated that hospitals were almost watering things down to try to make them -- to extend them a little bit, try to deal with the problem. >> well, they were not
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watererring them down so you were get, -- >> that's my nonmedical description. >> you were getting a lower dose than you should like people who break their pills in half when they can't afford them. they were making the correct dose but making concentrated doses. then you are mixings them. we know what happens when you are using the wrong doses in infants. they were using stronger heperine and watering offing it down to the correct infant dose but there are problems. >> well we need to fix it fast. dr., thank you. >> my privilege. >> the legal panel is here to tell you about what is coming up out of florida tonight. the legal panel is next. and also didn't we learn our lesson? it was risky bank lending that shoved the nation to our current financial crisis and now risky lending, it's back. isn't a red flag? that's coming up. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro.
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custody. >> where? >> i will not tell you where. that's for his safety, as well as everyone else's safety. >> we simply wanted an arrest. we wanted nothing more, nothing less. we just wanted an arrest, and we got it. and i say thank you. thank you, lord. thank you, jesus. >> i think he's troubled by the fact that the state decided to charge him. he's concerned about getting a fair trial and a fair presentation. >> a short time ago george zimmerman was transferred to a county jail in sanford, florida. so what is next for mr. zimmerman? our legal panel joins us. defense attorneys ted williams and diane tennis joins us from florida. diane, since you are the florida lawyer, give us the process, lay it out. what can we expect procedurally and what is the speedy trial act in florida? >> a speedy trial gives him six months to try mr. zimmerman if
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he decides not to waive that and have it take longer. oftentimes a murder trial can take longer that six months. you can demand a speedy trial and get it as soon as 60 days, which would be very unusual. likely he will qualify for a bond t it probably will take a motion being filed and a hearing set up in the next few weeks. i would anticipate if his lawyer pushes for one he probably could get out. i would be a little concerned about his safety but hopefully they can set something up that will keep him out of harm's way until they get to trial in a number months. >> is the next procedure, the next step, a preliminary hearing? is that the next procedure in florida or is it done differently? >> he would have an initial appearance that will happen probably tomorrow or possibly friday. typically not a lot goes on at that point. theoretically you can ask for a bond, but usually the bond would go to the actual trial court and would happen in a much longer proceeding. he has a right to a preliminary hearing, but again, that's not typically taken advantage of
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here. i would think we would do a bond hearing and then we would head into discovery, which in florida is wide open. get depositions of every single witness, you get statements, you get kind of an open, open discovery process, which is quite the advantage for the defense lawyer in florida. >> all right. ted, your thought on where we are? >> i think it's a great day, specifically for the mother and father. you have to tell you, greta, as a black man who has followed this case, it is my firm belief that if it would have been zimmerman lying down on that ground and trayvon martin would have been standing over him we would not have to be here tonight, there would have actually been an arrest. >> look, the rest -- there should have been justice a lot faster. >> absolutely. and i think the police department down there screwed this case up and they may have screwed it up to the point they have now charged him with second degree murder and they very well may not be able to make that case. i hope. >> but prosecutors always charge
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the grandest charge they can and they may not make murder in the second degree, i don't know what the jury will decide but there are manslaughter and lesser included that can happen. >> right. they can always overcharge and sort of give you the dump truckin' indictment and that's because if the injure compromises they will compromise to the lesser charge. but i've never had a homicide in 25 years where my client got his gun back. and i said, at the, how many homicide investigations did you investigate -- >> he got the gun back? >> the allegations we her is he got the gun back. not only did he get the gun back, but they didn't take his clothes that night. there's a lot of physical evidence that a good defense attorney would be able to work with in this case. >> the problem is, and i've watched the other networks, there's a lot of confusion what self-defense s but the law is every person has the right to use a reasonable amount of force in self-defense if he believes
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he's in imminent danger of bodily harm and he has that belief. it's not back whether looking back you believe the amount of force is necessary, the question is zimmerman under the circumstances, it appeared to him or her at the time of the incident actually believed he was in imminent danger of bodily harm and could reasonably hold that belief. >> then explain this to me. i keep hearing everyone in florida talk about the standard ground part. to me it sounds like just sort of your routine self-defense that's available, you know, across the country. you simply have different words to describe it in florida and everybody is so hung up on it although there's something special about it. maybe i'm wrong. >> this is much to do about a very narrow point. basically what we have done is we've taken the castle doctrine that says when you are in your home and attack, you don't have to retreat. you don't have to run out the window or run out the sliding glass doors, you can stand your ground in your home.
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we've extended is that in florida like many other states have done to basically state you don't to run if you are being beaten and you roanably believe that you need to meet this force with justifiable force. >> but in the district of columbia, someone is beating the living day lights out of you, you don't have a legal obligation to run, can defend yourself. i don't understand the distinct. the distinction is if you were in a situation where you could get away, before you should have gotten away and now you cannot turn your back and flee. we aren't going to second guess whether you could have gotten away. you can stand there and go forward. frankly this defense appears to me to be not necessarily stan your ground, it was i was lying on the ground and getting the poop pummeled out of me and i grabbed my gun out of desperation. if that is legitimately the defense, it doesn't have anything to do withstand your ground, it's the good old-fashioned self-defense we would have had even prior to
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that law. >> but the key here is trayvon martin, also if that defense is available to zimmerman, it should have been available to this dead young child, trayvon martin. >> i'm not saying it's a defense that's a valid one here, i'm just trying to understand the law. i'm not saying that -- i mean, i haven't heard the facts. you know, look, he had the gun and he was pursuing him. that doesn't -- that looks bad. >> how does zimmerman raise self-defense when he put himself in that situation and everybody said 911, don't go there. if i see ted at north capital street with a machine gun i can't go and stab him in the back and claim self-defensism put myself in that situation. >> except for defense of another. we could get overly technical. >> but you can't bring a gun to a fistfight. it's as simple as that. what i'm concerned about here is the prosecution of this case is all we've got to remember in the state of florida is casey anthony, that case. so we know what happened there. so i agree, i think the one thing --
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>> wait, wait. i mean, we only have 20 seconds left but i talked to those jurors in casey anthony. they worked really hard -- >> i agree. >> and being in a courtroom is very different and i felt they were unfairly indicted by people watching on the sidelines. i defend those jurors. it's not about whether we liked their verdict. but i'm taking the last word on that. i'll see all you have quite often because diana told us there's a speedy trial. thank you all. >> coming up, can we sound the alarm? could we beheaded back down that road that led to the financial meltdown? did you hear what banks are now doing again? that's next. and in two minutes it's making a comeback. you will probably remember pants on the ground. it's a great song but is one man taking sagging pants too far? you will see what we mean in a few minutes. "why did i roll over my i.r.a. to scottrade?" "for starters, it didn't cost me anything." "and i got a one-hundred dollar cash bonus for rolling over by
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>> from america's news headquarters, i'm ainsley earhardt. syrian activists reporting no major violence on thursday as the deadline for a u.n.-brokered cease-fire passed. that's a welcome change from wednesday, where amateur video showed fighting. the syrian government promised to stop all military operations before that. but said it retains the right to defend itself against terrorists the final result of the whitney houston death is attributed to an accidental drowning. the coroner's office ruled heart disease and cocaine use contributed to her tragic end. houston was found dead in her bathtub in the beverly hilton in february.
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she was only 48 years old. thanks for watching fox. i'm ainsley earhardt. watch foxnews.com. >> here we go again. disturb being now signs we may be heading down the same dangerous path that led to the financial meltdown. some of the nation's largest lenders are trolling for sub prime borrowers. often credit cards and auto loans. should alarm bells be going off. we are joined by ms. greenberg. nice to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> what's the problem? the banks are going back out on the road to sell credit cards to people who have bad credit? >> that's right. we've seen a pretty aggressive courtship again between the banks and borrowers who have some let damaged credit. but basically they are aggressively courting them with credit card offers and also offers for auto loans. >> why would they want to do that? except for, if they think of course they have a safety net we are going to bail them out then
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it might not be so bad but what's the incentive for them to go out and sell cards to people who are at risk of paying on the cards? >> well, i think what we've seen is that the regulations of that been passed in the wake of the financial crisis. everything from the dodd-frank law to the credit card act really undercut the income that banks have from fees. so they are looking for another source of revenue. and sub prime borrowers typically pay far higher interest rates and they accrue a lot of late charges. so they are a plentiful source of fee income for banks right now. >> i was surprised to read in the new york times , i had no idea, but it said that credit cards at one time gave banking industry as much as a quarter of it's profits. a quarter of its profits. that's a lot. >> yes, it is. so what he with are seeing right now is sort after desperate scramble to try to recoup that
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fee income and sub prime borrowers are part of the strategy. >> then i also read, by i didn't know, credit cards with training wheels which is sort of the new, i use the term game make, but that banks are giving. >> i'm not sure it's a game make. there are credit cards that are secured cards. they have small limits and they don't allow you to rack up the kind of debt that you might on an unsecured credit card. >> but that's not what we are talking about here. the offers of credit that we saw were unsecured credit. so the range of rates could stretch from anywhere to 29% in interest, in annual interest. and these typically don't have the kind of conservative credit limits that would be called a kind of training wheel card. >> did you see any tharpe just so almost knocked your socks off, it's so unbelievable the bank would be trying to solicit this person to get a card? >> yes. i mean, the wooing of people who
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have either just emerged from bankruptcy or have not even gotten out of bankruptcy was rather surprising to me. so these are people who have tremendously tarnished credit. they have had really a negative experience with credit, and they are receipt out of bankruptcy. in some cases they have discharged debt so they have fallen behind on debt to the point it had to be discharged. debt that they were offered by the very same creditors who are now offering them another credit card. >> why would banks do this? i mean, in light of what happened in the last five years or so, and realizing that if you issue cards and people can't pay it, it's eventually going to haunt you, and if no one is there to bail you out this, is really putting your bank at risk. so i mean, are they in that bad a situation they need to take that risk to try to make the money? >> well, actually i think a lot of economists say this is a sign of an improving economy. the banks feel they are on far
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more solid footing so they can make these loans again. the other advantage, it's kind of perverse, but when you lend to someone who just emerged from bankruptcy, they can't declare bankruptcy for up to seven years in most instances. so you don't have the risk of having to write off that debt. >> well, it certainly is going to be interesting to see what happens because the numbers of these -- i mean, extraordinary the number of cards that are now going out with. these numbers have jumped tenfold i think in the last -- in the last period since last year. ten times as much. >> yes. and we've seen that in credit cards and in auto loans, as well. >> jessica, thank you. it's a terrifying notion if these risky -- if these risky borrowers can't pay it back because we will be going through this once again. maybe they will be able to pay it, i don't know. thank you, jessica. >> thank you. >> straight ahead, the big buzz or a text from secretary of state hillary clinton. did you hear about her text? find out what she said. that's next. and betty white has a message
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for ryan see crist. what is going on between the hollywood a-listers? stay tuned for this one.
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>> you've seen our top stories but here is the best of the rest. it is all the rage. and now secretary of state hillary clinton is getting in on it herself. secretary clinton submitting her own post to texts from hillary. until now it feature the fictional texting, but she posted her own message. she writes "thanks for the many lols" but they said they are pulling the plug on the site. they say they want to quit while they are ahead. >> texting or tweeting, she is texting and betty white is tweeting. she's jumped on the twitter bandwagon. she said she didn't think it would ever happen but she's joined the ranks of the tweeting celebrities. and one of the first tweet is going to tv host ryan seacrest and it's white tweeting,
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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here, flash studio lights, it's time for last call. wait until you see what could be on your next petesa. here is jay leno. >> pizza hut is now selling a pizza with a hot-dog stuffed crust. there are hot dogs stuffed into that. how bad are we getting in this country? even our food is stuffed with food? >> greta: that is your last call. lights are blinking and we're closing down shop. we'll see you again tomorrow night. make sure you go to greta wire.com. there is an open thread. i know you have a lot to say. good night from washington, d.c.. we'll see you tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. mr. bill o'reilly.