political career. and he'll face a tea party challenge they are a big primary election this coming june. hello, i'm gregg jarrett. >> heather: i'm heather childers. senator hatch failing to win enough votes after utah's state republican convention to clinch the nomination. he faced nine challengers landing head to head with former state lawmaker, former state senator. that will happened hap on june 26th. we'll have much more coming up if a live report. stay tuned that is just ahead. >> new calls for a wider investigation into the sex scandal rocking the secret service. three more agents stepping down, just two days after two supervisors and another officer were forced out. all because of allegations of misconduct with prostitutes in colombia. days before president obama was due to arrive there.

chuck grappling calling to expand the investigation to see if any involvement may have occurred with white house staff. >> specifically senator grassley wants to find out if anyone from the communication agency had any overnight guests that their hotel room or shared rooms at the hotel or other hotels in colombia. grassley wants to know, who would be reviewing these hotel records to ensure that sensitive information was not compromised by overnight guests. white house has said a couple times this week so far none of the people on the ground has been caught up in this scandal. >> i have no reason to believe. i do not know, otherwise, that this did not anything involve the agents and military personnel. we are in regular conversation with senator members of the white house staff and

conversation with secret service getting briefed on the progress of their investigation. >> reporter: for the first time since the scandal broke, secret service director mark sullivan briefed president obama in person in the oval office late yesterday. so far six secret service agents have been ousted or resigned including two supervisors. five more agents are on administrative leave and one has been cleared of serious misconduct but may face in-house permit punishment. pentagon says eleven military members were involved as well. >> gregg: molly henneberg, thanks. >> heather: another fox news alert for you. united nations security council unanimously voting to send 300 military observers to syria. their mission is to monitor the cease-fire deal that went into effect over a week ago but so far, failed to take hold.

they are unarmed and will not deploy in the violence slows. these observers will join the advance team already on the ground in syria. some of them got the first look of the embattled city of homs today. they were preventing from entering in yet as the military launched attacks killing ten civilians there. with 9,000 people killed in the 13-month up pricing is it time for military inintervention. we'll a talk about that with state department senior advisor and that is just ahead. >> newly released documents revealing afghan forces were dealing drugs to american troops. according to records, army opened a cost investigation from american troops by -- dozen investigations. these are the same forces that

are training to take over security responsibilities following the 2014 withdrawal. those documents reveal drug overdoses are possibly responsible for at least 8 american deaths. .... >> gregg: an epic presidential in the race for the -- battle. brand-new polling data showing a very tight race shaping up with president obama and mitt romney. latest numbers show the president with a 6-point edge over romney where seven months remaining. what do these polls portend if anything? a staff write where roll call. good to see you. our own poll had the president with a narrow 2-point lead. but both of these polls are within the statistical margin of error. what do you make of it? >> it's important that you pointed out with the statistical

margin of error which means it can be either way. its toss-up but i wouldn't pay too much attention to polls in the race. this is really the low bar for romney. he just went through this extended long bruising primary. he has a whole summer to recover before the convention and all fall. so this really should be romney's low point. still a very competitive race. >> president obama has a 6-point lead in the state of ohio which a key battleground state. if you dig a little bit deeper, let's put this up on the screen. 71% of obama voters say they are voting for him. by contrast, 63% of romney voters they are voting against obama with just 29% saying they are voting for romney. what does that tell you shara? >> it tells me that romney has work to do in the state of ohio, introducing himself to voters. he obviously want flan a primary in early march. he had a needs to do a lot of

work with independent voters. ohio is a really competitive state and sought after prize in the electoral college. there are 18 electoral votes up for grabs. 270 needed to win and it will be interesting to see how differently romney campaigns in the buckeye state this time around versus the primary. it will be going to different places than in march. >> gregg: here is what is curious about ohio. let's put this up on the screen. almost 70% of ohio voters are dissatisfied with how things are going in the country today. you know, quite often the president gets the blame yet president obama's disapproval rating is no where near that. his disapproval is at 47%. what do you make of that? >> think the white house has done a lot of groundwork in ohio even starting late last year. i was in ohio covering a couple congressional races and you could see the obama's presence

already there. michelle did conference calls with voters. they opened the 17th campaign office in state of ohio. they have worked hard make sure the president is maintaining an image. >> gregg: she was so good at his groundwork four years ago. we'll talk about florida, the mother of all swing states. the president has a narrow lead there over mitt romney and again statistical tie, but. if senator marco rubio that gets a lot of chatter, if he is added to the race. it makes no difference among florida voters. are you surprised by that? >> not completely. there is always a lot of talk about the vp nominee but this time during the presidential cycle and they could help this candidate to help carry this state. it's just that talk. usually the vice presidential nominee doesn't help in specific states, it adds something to a

larger ticket as a whole. let's remember that rubio was on the whole pretty untested as a national candidate. he ran in the competitive florida senate race but he is not most seasoned choice. the last thing republicans would ever wanted to do this cycle is have another sarah palin untested situation. >> gregg: he may have a down side to him. rob portman does not. during the nasty republican primary in the state of florida i recall voters being absolutely saturated with negative advertise becoming romney along with his xertsz. do you think that is one of the reasons that he is not doing as well in the state of florida at least so far? >> he has recovery work to do there. romney himself spent a lot of money on negative ads because he could ai forward to do it. santorum and gingrich couldn't do it. but also bring up the immigration issue. immigration and probably the most important issue in florida,

compared to any other state except maybe texas and arizona. it's a huge issue there. romney during the primary definitely went to the right. remember his comment about that? these are the issues that matter. he is going to have to go back and talk to them. >> gregg: i'm glad you brought that up. i want to show you a national poll on immigration. it finds that mitt romney is favored over president obama 43-39. why is that? and do you think immigration in the end will really be much of an issue come november? >> i think it depends on the economy looks like. if the economy is still in bad shape. that is going to be voter's primary concern when they go to the polls. it's a tertiary issue, many states it's a big issue there. one thing that could change that if we have some kind of incident perhaps something along the lines of elian gonzalez, that brings the issue to the forefront of american american

politics. >> why is romney ahead of president obama on immigration. you would think it would be the opposite. hispanics have a tendency to vote democrat? >> i'm not sure it would be the opposite. voters have heard romney talk immigration more than the president. president supported the dream act that failed to make it through congress. other than that, the president is not really initiated any comprehensive immigration foreign package. think a lot of voters expected more from him. >> gregg: my question sort of suggested that we're talking about only hispanic voters but in fact, that was national poll, all voters and it may reflect sort of just the opposite of hispanic sentiments. shara, great to see. thanks for being here. coming up this hour, the president's campaign facing a sharp drop-off in donations,

coming up we have a detailed report how it may impact his bid for reelection. >> heather: it will definitely impact it somehow. also coming up. long time conservative commentator, andrew breitbart. what doctors say what caused his death. >> gregg: plus his disappearance rocked the entire nation more than 30 years ago. remember this little boy. now investigators on the trail of some new clues in the cold case of six-year-old etan patz. the latest is straight ahead. >> it was very disturbing that a child had vanished right on our block. that i would have to guard my children ferociously. to this day, even my grandkids. i won't let them out of my sight for a second. wake up! that's good morning, veggie style.

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>>. >> heather: quick check on the headlines, george zimmerman's attorney sake the family is having trouble posting bond. he hopes to free of jail by mid-week. he is accused in the shooting of trayvon martin.

at the l.a. coroner's office releasing the cause of death for andrew breitbart. he died of heart failure last month at age 43. weather delaying enterprise final voyage to the final home here in new york city. space shuttle discovery getting a lift to the retirement home at smithsonian. >> gregg: president obama's campaign team hitting a fund-raising snag. apparently now, having some major trouble reeling in cash from several big name donors including powerhouse supporters from both wall street and hollywood. why are they treating him like limburger cheese? peter doocy has the story from washington. >> reporter: four years ago wealthy americans boosted his campaign by writing a lot of big

checks but this time around, that is not happening quite as much because some on wall street feel like president obama has unfairly singled them out for political purposes for they don't want to give him any more money. that is according to a report in friday's "new york times" that blames the bad competent and absent of a democratic primary for lack of excitement among the base. 59% of the campaign's $196 million as been from small donors, contribution of $200 or less. that is part of the reason they are off the pace they set in 2008. just because the large donors are staying home doesn't mean the obama campaign is having trouble the romney war chest has $10,000. obama war chest has $104 million cash and campaign manager says they'll figure out how to make it work. >> it's people building this organization five to deny

dollars at a time. we work harder and move even faster. it's going to take all of us to work together. >> super pacs will help bridge the gap with the president between now and november because restore our future, one of super pacs, made $8.7 million pry while priorities action which back the president made $2.5 million. >> gregg: peter doocy. thanks. >> heather: he was the first missing child to ever appear on a national milk carton. now after more than 30 years, investigators are ramping up their search for etan patz. he was six years old. police spending another day at soho building in downtown manhattan where he vanished in serious condition 9. crews sister go through rubble, the workshop of a handyman. now here is the latest on this investigation. hi, anna.

>> reporter: investigators have dug up the concrete they have now moved on to the soil that has been below that basement for all these years. they have been working very hard. f.b.i. and nypd. they have between 20-40 agents as well as officers down there. they have been using jackhammers and fans and chainsaw throughout this three-day process. we are about a block from the bus stop where etan was headed when we vanished. 75-year-old handyman has hired an attorney who tells the media, miller is cooperating with investigators but has no involvement with in this case. >> i believe he is conveyed that message multiple times over 30 years. he has moved by all of this. he recognizes and agrees this is a terrible tragedy. we should not be compounding one tragedy by ruining another

person's life. >> police commissioner says he is not going to seek any potential suspects in this case, for decades there was a prime suspect in the case. jose ramos already locked up in a pennsylvania prison. he was never convicted in the case but was held responsible in a wrongful death suit. etan's parents still live in the neighborhood and have asked for privacy. this is going down a month before national missing children's day. that is may 25th the very same day of etan's disappearance. since having his face put on milk carton he is a national symbol for childhood safety. investigators are still out now and they do anticipate returning tomorrow. >> heather: thank you very much. >> gregg: major wind storm is ripping through the state of texas. those gusts are so strong, some residents are comparing it to a hurricane.

latest on the damage from our fox news weather center. >> heather: they have sent more observers for the cease fire in syria. after 13 months and at least 9,000 deaths, is it time for a military solution? we'll take a closer look up next. 

>>. >> heather: fox news alert. six term senator from utah, orrin hatch failing to win enough votes and will now face a june runoff against dan lind equivalent. casey stegall has more. >> reporter: a big development. utah election system first of all is extremely unique, it's the only one in the entire country where candidates both

republican and democrat cannot advance to the primary until the delegates decide who get to the primary at the state convention. incumbent senator orrin hatch would have received the sole nomination today if he received 60% or more of the vote at today's state g.o.p. convention. well that did not happen. it was extremely close. he took 59.2% of the vote. which means the 78-year-old lawmaker must square off against former state senator dan lindquist. total ten candidates were vying for the seated. hatch is second longest serving u.s. senator. he was hoping to get his seventh term without a primary fight but he maintains it's his experience that will carry him here. >> i'm a tough old bird. never felt more eager and more excited or more energized.

that is thanks all of you. i have respectfully one more time to ask for your trust and confidence and your vote. god bless you and god bless our country. >> reporter: utah's democratic party is holding its convention, as well. it goes to the exact same process that the republicans went through. there are three candidates vying for that particular spot. if one gets 60% or more of vote they become the sole nominee otherwise the party would pick two to square off in the upcoming primary. >> heather: thank you very much, casey stegall, reporting live. we're going to talk about the implications of this race with our political panel coming up later in the next hour. >> gregg: the united nations security council is taking a new stand on the crisis in syria today. approving a plan to the same time 300 unarmed military observers to monitor the fragile cease-fire.

calling on the syrian government to halted the fighting before the new monitors arrive. they are satisfying there is continued attacks despite the 9,000 killed, is it time for military intervention in syria. christian whitten joins us. what would sending 300 observers into syria really accomplish? >> it would accomplish next to nothing. two things, two words that you hear together in regard to a foreign policy problem, u.n. and observer we don't have a serious response either from the u.s. or group of nations that would have to respond is seriously. there have been observers in syria before. arab league has sent a group in. they were inhibited. assad governmental will agree possibly throw a bone but keep them from doing more serious but nothing is going to come from this. >> gregg: before some of the

initial observers arrived the government was hiding its tanks. it was stopping the shelling. once u.n. observers depart a particular area, it all resumes again. aren't these observers being deceived deliberately by assad, in fact is he trying to erase evidence have war crimes? >> i'm not too sure she worried about war crimes. that would be the first for him. there was some talk recently in new york and by governments that might intervene by turkey, by britain bikers france about a humanitarian corridor in short of sending troops or really helping the rebels seriously. perhaps assad was becoming concerned that the so-called international community was getting it back together. by doing that he can force all of it. that is what is going on here. >> gregg: this has been going on for a year, 9,000 lives plus many have them lost innocent

civilians murdered by assad's government forces. if this u.n. cease-fire fails, many believe it will, will that merit outside military intervention and by whom? >> certainly not by the united states. i think we have significant interests in syria, but if you look at the political move here, plus the fact that president obama and his secretary of state and secretary of defense has not explained what the interests are or what the u.s. strategy is in syria. or to the american people or congress. we could sell arms to the rebels, to the group of the rebels we think are closest to the u.s. or the least islamist. >> why not a coalition of the willing and nato forces, the same sort of strategy that was used to oust libya m khadafy?

>> there are syria is iran and iran's best friend and conduit of the terrorist ten that kals are wrapping around the middle east. there shall reasoning to get involved. we have a long history with libya. we had been to war in other operations. their energy concerns. >> gregg: they have oil. syria doesn't really. let me ask but russia and china. they appear to be protecting assad. obstructing any resolution to the violence there. what is their motivation. is it as simple as this. they do not want to see democracy established a foothold in a place like syria? >> i think that is one key issue. they certainly don't want to see liberal democracy spread any further. they are anti-u.s. and they don't want regimes currently friendly they can engage in corrupt business practices.

they don't want to see those governments replaced that is more transparent. they like sticking their finger in the eye of america and the out reach to beijing and russia hasn't changed the conduct of those governments at all. >> gregg: it's a humanitarian crisis, at least a million people in urgent need. red cross needs to get in there. christian, good to see you. >> heather: a fox news alert. evangelical christianity lost one of most eloquent voices with the death of charles colton. his world view founder died at 3:12 eastern time today. at the age of 80. after a brief illness he passed away at a northern virginia hospital with his wife and family by his bedside. he was a watergate figure has

died at the age of 80. this is all just coming in. i do have a little bit more of the statement that came in from the prison fellowship ministries this afternoon. they went on to see, this is time for conflicting emotions. we grieve that our founder, our founder our inspiration is no longer with us but we rejoice as we reflect on his life and legacy that we could be part of that. we rejoice and when we think of all the redeemed in heaven that will greet him. >> gregg: he was one of nixon's hatchetman who was deeply involved with watergate. he went to prison over it. he came out and wrote a book and everybody was skeptical about new found religion. he proved for the rest of his life that wasn't so. he was dedicated to helping people especially prison inmates through religion. so quite a diverse life.

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>> gregg: fox news alert. evangelical, christianity lost a voice, the death of chuck colson. fellowship and christian world view founder died today at the age of 80. he went to prison as a result of his participation in the watergate scandal during the nixon administration but he merged to that and ministered to prisoners for the rest of his life. james rosen has more. >> he was known as the hatchetman, white house special counsel willing to walk over his own grandmother to re-elect the president. but charles colton would spend the most decades as one of leading christian missionary.

>> i saw the world through the eyes of people that were disadvantaged and rejected. the out costs of society. the untouchables. >> born in boston in 1931. he attended brown university. through the alumni association he would meet howard hunt he would recruit to the nixon white house and supervise the watergate break-in. colson joined the nixon white house as special counsel. his chief task was to get nixon re-elected by identifying blue collar workers and other voters later dubbed reagan democrats. he had a role in smearing damp yell elsberg. >> it was the worst of my life to be indicted because i had been so proud as a marine officer and proud to serve my country and flag waving patriot

and i end up in courtroom and it's the united states of america versus charles colson. that was like a hot knife. >> reporter: small town of weston, massachusetts outside of boston 1932 that colson after visiting a friend had his own i pif any. >> i drove up and this white house hatchetman, tough guy was crying so hard i couldn't drive any further. i spent probably half an hour on that night, maybe an hour talking to god for the first time seriously in my life. >> intense skepticism greeted with his announcement of his conversion. in 1976 he published his first book, a memoir of the nixon years and testament to new found with it. born again became a classic, helping to pop are aize the term breathing life into the emerging

life in the evangelical movement in politics. >> when the book came out, and then jimmy carter was asked about it. >> that same year, he founded prison fellowship. it started with small groups of 12 inmates, released from prison for two week furloughs to colson and his associates. >> of the thousand inmates we took out we had not a single incident. it was huge success. >> reporter: today it operates in more than a hundred countries. in 1993 he joined billy gram and mother theresa as a prestigious of an award. >> i want to thank chuck colson of the prison fellowship program. i have been hosting the angel tree program, 6 million boys and girls has received a gift on christmas. i want to thank you very much

for doing that. [ applause ] >> reporter: colson underwent surgery to remove a blood clot on his brain. he showed signs of recovery but in recent days his condition grew dire. subject of children's book he expressed concern about the commercialization of evangelical christianity. >> legacy as a christian with it. i don't want my witness impaired. he was 80 years old. germans rosen, fox news. >> heather: to other news, class warfare, front and center in the race to white house. president obama sparking a debate when he had this to say on wednesday. >> for those of us to prosper. somebody gave me an education. i wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. michelle wasn't but somebody

gave us a chance. >> heather: to be fair we have to add this. white house insisting that was not a jab at g.o.p. front-runner mitt romney but some took it that way. romney asked about it on fox and friends. listen. >> i'm not going to apologize and my dad and his success. he was born poor. he worked his way to become very successful despite the fact he didn't have a college degree and one of the things he wanted to do was provide for me and my brothers and sisters. i'm not going to apologize for my dad's success. i know the president likes to attack fellow americans and look for those that have been successful like my dad. >> heather: bringing in kimberly guilfoyle. angela getting gou want and daughter of reverend jackson and first time joining us. thanks for being here. as such we get to start with you.

your thoughts on that. really can either one of these people relate to the common man on the street, maybe out of a job. "washington post" put it this way. one candidate is worth 250 million and has an elevator at a beach house and the other was a best selling author and millionaire and lives in the world's most famous mansion, 1600 pennsylvania avenue. can either relate? >> the fact is the president and first lady until 2004. i think we need to be very honest about that. if you are going run for president or become president you are not going to be poor. it's now a billion dollar proposition to become president. what i would like to see everybody do during this campaign is quite frankly, that reverend jackson did during his campaign in 84 and 88 to stay in reservations so we can see how

americans really live today. mrs. obama said one of her fears is president obama didn't run for the senate in 2004, he didn't run for the presidency in 2008. they would be a little distant. even though they worked very hard to stay close to the people. this is really tough. i think that americans need to know that their elected leadership understands what they are going through. >> heather: and obama and romney can they relate yes. this is what people aspire to be. in order for them to win and it's going to be a very close race. no vote should be tain taken for granted. this is what i don't like. i don't think obama, president obama was trying to do the class warfare thing but the voting machine has been about redistribution of wealth. it's been about class warfare. that is why i wrote my book about the liberal agenda. would bomb people from both

sides should know who they are voting for. >> we should really seek to understand and that is the experiences of all different families and individuals here in this country because together if we do that then we can work the one nation united instead of divided some of the rhetoric has been very disconcerting. i want a president, somebody who is running for president, but tha understands what a single mom like myself knows what they are going through. families comes in all different shapes and sizes and help us get the opportunities and not burden people that want to do well to provide for their family. >> if i may say so, the way you know is to become a mother. i wanted to talk about the fact there is a gender gap, a pay gap. the fact is we are really struggling out here. 70% of young women have children and they work.

maternity leave. >> we make 77 cents compared to a dollar. >> black women, it's 69 cents and it started pat cents and white women only have 61% of white male wealth. i think women want to have discussions. this is very important. >> men have gained four times as many jobs as women. >> and you have single parent. what are they going to do. you have women that are entrepreneurs that want small businesses. what are they going to do for us. the only way we can get the candidates on tap is talking like we are talking now. [ laughter ] >> we will continue talking after this break. flein-year-old boy turns the tables on a school yard bully. he is now suspended from school. can students stand up for themselves? our panel debates that.

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bold remark. listen to the advice to american voters on the november election. >> the women out there, whether you are republican or democrat or independent, self-respecting human being, please, vote for president obama and to for the chair women, do the same thing. >> back with our panel to talk a little more about. kimberly, i'll start. it looks like romney has a problem with women. by many, 14-point margin over mitt romney? >> maybe president obama has done a better job in getting the message out to women. i know senator barbara boxer and her family very well. she has been a strong add vot cat of the presidency and now for the reelection. that kind of rhetoric does bother me. i think people should be well informed if we before they make their choices, i don't believe

mitt romney is against women or doesn't understand women's. i greatly admire his wife and the sacrifices she has made. i don't know how helpful this is. >> it's like being lectured to. how condescending. if you are republican or democrat, talk about the issues. talk about the human issues. talk about the issues, senator. there are several things she has championed that obama believes in. talk about that. >> i know i have an issue. willie ledbetter, that is something that governor is waffling on. i would like to affirm that support. i want to close this pay gap. i want to lift more women out of poverty. i want to see that. >> heather: finally a nine-year-old boy gets suspended

from school for standing up for himself. he had been bullied for months and couldn't take it anymore. this story i wanted to make sure we got to this. little boy was suspended because he fought back from this bully that had apparently been going on for months. administrators were aware of it and walk away, find a teacher. >> if anybody acts in a violent way, you are suspended but i'm glad this child did stand up for himself. you have kids that committed suicide because they were bullied. >> i didn't know it was called bully side. there is a name for it now. >> exactly. so he stood up and why didn't the school do anything about it. >> we have a bullying culture. i think this is culture deep. we have to stop, we go to war, but we have a disagreement. we have to stop that. if we really want to show

children how they should not bully. these kids are getting it from somewhere. >> i agree with it show by example. look online. >> and on the soccer field. >> this exact issue in my son's kindergarten class, he is five years old. he was being bullying and he brought it to my attention. the kids and hitting him in the head. i had to go to the school and manage the situation. i asked to speak with the child's parents. i want to sit down with you and work on this. i wanted them to be educated learn. >> we have got to, we're duct tapeing children and suspending children. >> and things that don't matter but what you did is right. you got involved as a parent. >> that is what you have to do. >> heather: thank you so much for joining us today. thank you superior going us for

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>> gregg: long time, utah senator orrin hatch learning he'll have to win a primary before getting the gop nod. hello, everyone. i'm gregg jarrett. >> heather: i'm heather childers. hatch fell short of the 60% that he needed to get an automatic nomination at today's utah state gop convention. >> gregg: it's a sign that the tea party may be showing its strength these days, backing his opponent. the 78-year-old hatch says he wants to serve one more term before retiring. to get it, he'll have to face a very tough tight. he has a large war chest, but his opponent says no senator is too big to fail. casey stegall has the latest from los angeles. hi, casey. >> hi. good to sigh. the incumbent senator needed 60% or more of the vote to skip the primary and sail straight through to the general election and that did not happen. but the results are showing that it was a squeaker. the results show him with 59.2%

of the vote, which means he fell short of the nomination by fewer than 50 votes between the nearly 4,000 delegates who cast ballots in the state of utah today. now the second longest serving u.s. senator must get past this man if he wants his 7th and final term, 37-year-old stammer state senator. he will be vying for the spot. this is considered a victory for him, who said all along no senator is too big to fail, referring to his 78-year-old opponent, but hatch does have a significant fundraising advantage here. >> thank you so much. i have the experience and the respect of both sides. no one else in this race can say the same, not if he's telling the truth. i know that anyone, any candidate is able to say, we can do this. but only one can say we will do this and as chairman, dial it

from day one. >> meantime, breaking news to tell you about with the democrat challenger for the very same spot. results are just coming in from utah's democratic convention which is also being held today and three-term state senator scott howell received 60% or more of the vote. so he sails now straight through to the general election. no primary for the democrats in that state. so senator howell will face either hatch or his opponent based on who wins the primary in june. we should also tell you that howell was defeated by hatch when he ran against him in 2000. a lot of developments we're following out of utah today, gregg. >> gregg: long ago when orrin hatch ran for the senate, he criticized his opponent for being a career politician and of course, that's being used against him. all right. casey stegall i thank very much. >> heather: fox news alert. more reaction on the death of

chuck colson. he once described himself as president nixon's hatchet man examine went to prison for obstruction of justice in the watergate scandal and it was in prison that he underwent a profound religious transformation. he founded a world wide prison fellowship ministry that was in 1976 that has affected thousands of people in 113 countries. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just released this statement saying, colson lives on as a modern model of redemption and a permanent rebuttal to the claim there are no second chances in life. colson had suffered a brain hemorrhage on march 31 and had been in intensive care ever since. colson was 80 years old. continuing on, growing fallout in the sex scandal rocking the secret service. a u.s. senator now calling for a wider investigation and the heads continue to roll in the scandal sparked by an incident between a prostitute and agent

in a colombian hotel. the secret service is forcing three more agents to resign, a total of six agency employees have all lost their jobs. the new developments continuing and embarrassing situation for the white house that started during the president's visit to colombia for a summit, or right before. molly henneberg is live in washington. republican chuck grassley wants more information from the secret service, specifically what does he want? >> he wants to know if this scandal is limited to the secret service and military only, or if some members of the white house team could have been involved, too. grassley writes in a letter to the director of the agency, quote, were there any rooms shared by secret service, white house communications agency, and the white house office of advance for operational or support matters? if so, were logs for those rooms checked to see if overnight guests were registered? the concern says grassley is that the prostitutes may have had access in those types of

rooms to, quote, sensitive information. heather? >> heather: and molly, what does the white house have to say about that? >> the white house has maintained no one from its team has been caught up in the scandal. the president's spokesman was asked if they would launch their own internal investigation to find out and he said at this point, no. >> i had no reason, like i said yesterday, to believe that there is a need for that. i'm not going to talk speculatively about where this investigation is going. >> but for the first time since the scandal broke, secret service director mark sullivan briefed president obama in person at the white house in the oval office late yesterday. for now a total of six secret service agents have been ousted or resigned since the scandal came to light, including two supervisors. five more agents are on administrative leave and their security clearances have been suspended. and one has been cleared of serious misconduct, but may face some kind of in house

punishment. 11 members of the military have been implicated. heather? >> heather: molly henneberg reporting live for us. nice to have you back. >> good to be back. >> gregg: we're getting new details on david chaney, one of the agents forced out of the job bit scandal. his neighbors in virginia defending him, saying he's a stand up guy. the allegations against him just don't make sense. >> he seems like a nice guy. that's why i don't believe it. >> they were fantastic neighbors, good, high quality people. i would never expect anything like that from them. >> people tend to put blame on people right away just because of what they hear in the news. >> gregg: chippy worked in the secret service for the better part of 20 years and was often assigned as detail protecting the president. >> heather: mitt romney blasting president obama's tax policies at the republican national committee meeting in arizona. he told supporters yesterday the

president's tax policies did not create jobs. they actually hurt recovery and healthcare also in the line of fire. republican senator john mccain slamming the process that got it passed. >> it was the sleaziest process i have ever seen in my years as a united states senator! the cornhusker kickback, the louisiana purchase, taking lobbyists in the blair house and blankettenning them into supporting obamacare. no wonder the american people are sick and tired of that. that wasn't the kind of government obama promised the american people. that was an exercise in sleaze and we've got to do away with it examine give the american people a real healthcare that's affordable and available to all americans! mitt romney will do that. >> heather: a very fired up john mccain, we should add and fox news poll from last month shows a majority of americans may agree. they disapprove of how have the president has been handling the healthcare issue and that's about the same percentage who

disapproved in december of last year. gregg? >> gregg: a desperate search for a missing soldier in north carolina taking a new turn now. the last person seen with kelly bordeaux arrested for violation his sex offender status. a heart breaking plea from her family. >> please, just return my sister. she's -- i have a three-year-old son that she hung the moon to him. >> gregg: now the very latest on this story. >> nick class localbert, the 25-year-old he registered sex offender was the last person to see kelly bordeaux saturday morning. he just turned himself in to authorities last night for failing to register as a sex offender inside the county. completely unrelated charge. but what we do now from a spokesperson is that he's being held on a $100,000 bond.

he did speak with local media, saying he's been questioned by police twice. he said he told them he did give bordeaux a ride home early saturday morning, but says he has nothing to do with her disappearance. this while her family is pleading for the public to keep her name in the news and find her alive. >> it's been a week, but nobody is losing hope, you know. we're still looking every day, just like we were when we got here a few days ago. we just don't want the story to fade. >> it's unimaginable to wake up every day and this is the reality. i'm standing in front of you guys hoping that my sister is found safe and sound. >> police have turned up no leads after searching a wooded area north of the county yesterday and a police -- excuse me a pond in fayetteville the day before. the last place she was seen on saturday by other people was at a bar called froggy bottom.

bordeaux does have a husband, although he was not in town during her disappearance. he is not a person of interest or a suspect in this case. bordeaux's family says they've ruled out the possibility she went awol. she took her military duties very seriously. they also tell the media they'll be staying in fayetteville until they find kelly alive. gregg? >> gregg: elizabeth prann, thanks. >> heather: afghan security forces making a major arrest of five suspected insurgents carrying ten tons of explosives. the explosives were reportedly intended for a planned attack in kabul. you will recall last week, militants launched a series of coordinated attacks around afghanistan, killing dozens. it has been a difficult year for america's image in afghanistan and coming up, what effect all of this is having on the morale and safety of our troops serving there. >> gregg: the united nations security council expanding its presence now in syria. the council unanimously approving a resolution boosting the team from 30 to 300

observers and demanding an end to the violence. diplomats are accusing syrian president al assad of fail to go honor the united nations brokered truce. >> heather: bang at home, extreme weather, driving winds and rain whipping through downtown houston. some people compared yesterday's storms to a hurricane with rain coming down sideways. where is that system heading? meteorologist maria molina live with more on this. hi, maria. >> hi. good to see you. today that storm system will basically track eastward and is already bringing in a lot of that moisture from those images you saw from houston to the state of florida and guess where all of that moisture is headed next. to the northeast. we're going to be looking at a flooding potential not just for south florida, but across portions of the northeast.

today we have a slight risk for severe storms from this system that is producing a lot of rain. we're talking about the possibility of three or hour inches of rain across portions of south florida and that will be producing that risk for flooding across miami, fort lauder dale, waterspouts and isolated tornadoes will be possible out across portion of florida and even tampa and orlando. we need the moisture across the southeast. florida, georgia, parts of south carolina, so this is a little bit of good news, but we don't like to hear that threat for flooding and severe storms across parts of florida. we'll keep you posted. more than three inches expected of rainfall. then at that storm system is going to merge with a cold front that's pushing eastward across portions of the northeast. it will track up the coast and as we head into late tonight, also into tomorrow and into monday, we're going to be looking at a lot of moisture out across from new york city through boston and portion of maine. more than three inches possible.

we'll be looking at flooding concerns. >> heather: we do need that rain, even though gregg is grumbling. thank you. >> gregg: you know, am i going to get a plane out of here on monday morning or is that going to be impossible? >> hopefully you will. >> gregg: thanks very much. >> heather: not that we want you out of here. >> gregg: there are a lot of people who do. listen, chicago, got to tell but this incredibly bizarre incident. a car suddenly crashing into a beauty store, injuring one woman inside. the owner of the car had just run into the store, leaving her two-year-old daughter and a friend inside the car. turns out the friend does not have a driver's license. she explained what happened. >> i was trying to -- i never drove a car in my life. never had a license. i was trying to turn the car offment i must have hit something. it started going forward. i tried to hit the brakes. but i don't know how it drive and it went up in the store.

when i seen it, i couldn't believe it. i couldn't do nothing. >> when the star started going forward, what are you thinking? >> oh, my god. mom about to die. and call my mama. >> gregg: police say charges are expected to be filed, although i don't think against the two-year-old. >> heather: wow. >> gregg: yeah. the good news is that nobody was killed in that. what a horrific thing to have happen. >> heather: troubling when she said she was pushing the gas or break, which ever one it was. that was a little troubling. might have been the cause of the accident. >> gregg: i took my almost 16-year-old daughter out for her first driving experience and i was so worried about her mixing up the accelerator and the brake. she did a very nice job. >> heather: remember back when you learned how to drive? >> gregg: oh, yeah. >> heather: i know that was a long time ago for you. >> gregg: it was a covered wagon and i was very good with the horses. >> heather: i'm kidding. coming up, george zimmerman

trying to make bail and get out of jail until his murder trial. now new comments from his lawyers on when he may be released and judge jeanine takes a look at what to expect next in this controversial case. >> gregg: and mitt romney has advocated a hard line approach to immigration, but now signals that he may be rethinking that stance. >> of course, we want to stop the flow of people coming in illegally, but legal immigration is something i very much want to promote. wake up! that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. fohalf the calories plus vgie nutrition. could've had a v8. thor's couture gets the most rewards of any small business credit card. [ garth ] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! here's my spark card. and here's your wool. why settle for less?

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>> heather: new signals mitt romney may be easing off his hard line immigration stance. romney raising eyebrows after an interview with carl cameron, particularly on the controversial dream act that would give children of illegal immigrants and u.s. troops a path to citizenship. here is what he said. >> legal immigration is a great source of strength for our nation. we have a very ample visa program. it should be made larger so that enterprises that need foreign labor are able to receive it. i'd like people o who have skill and experience and who speak english. education. i'd like to make it easier for them to come to the country. >> heather: joining me is the president of new frontier strategy and former executive

director of the republican governors association and a former spokesman for the clinton-gore and gore-lieberman presidential campaign. thank you for joining us. >> hey, heather. >> heather: josh, i'm going to begin with you. do you think this is a sign that romney is pivoting and how important is it that he stick with his plan, original plan, what significance will this have on the election as we move forward? >> as a democrat who believes in fairness and immigration as a positive asset for america, wed into to find a way to deal with those who are here and already paying taxes and their children who are potential productive members of american society. i admire the stance that mitt romney articulated in that clip. i think it's going to cause him some problems in the republican primary. most of the states that he won coming forward are blue states, places that president obama is going to win. it's going to cost him a lot of time to make up with those republican voters. not going to love what he has to say on immigration. >> heather: and phil, what do

you say? >> well, my view is that as we go forward into the general election phase of the campaign with governor romney talking about this makes clear common sense, which is legal immigration has a good place. there are a loft creative ways for the visa program, through e verify. there are a lot of things that people agree on and immigration can't be solved from a one party perspective. it's frankly going to have to be a kind of red meets blue solution at thend of the day. but governor romney has been clear about the need to secure the borrowedder and laid out principles that don't allow for jumping to the head of the line. but that said, being respectful and tone appropriate and making sure hispanic republicans understand that the republican party has got the best path to economic growth and prosperity for them is really an important part of that message and ways that immigration reform can help grow our economy are important to highlight. that's what the governor is doing. >> heather: phil, i want to get your response to this because josh brought it up. talking about the number of states that romney won versus

the number of states that president obama won. 22 states and dc were won by romney up until april 21. of that number, 16, including dc, were won by obama in the 2008 general election, roughly 69.5%. so do you think as josh pointed out that this will be a problem for romney? >> look, i think this election ultimately is going to frame around the economy and jobs and who has got the best vision to unlock the entrepreneurial free intersurprise system for our country. immigration will be an important discussion and i think that there are a lot of republican voices offering a different ideas around how to best tackle this issue, this is going to frame around jobs and the economy and who has got the best plan for that. so looking at the map, flank i think we feel pretty good about where we sit vis-a-vis, the electal map from four years ago. >> heather: josh, there is at least one poll that does speak to what phil is saying and it

supports what he's saying and this was a poll that showed obama garnered 39% versus romney 43% when it came to this question, regardless of how you intend to vote, who do you think would do a better job on immigration? this poll showing mitt romney. this is a national poll. >> yeah. i think the challenge for governor romney is that the presidential election is not a blanket. it's a quilt and you've got to win state by state. so when you look at the industrial midwest, president obama is doing quite well in place likes ohio, pen opinion. the new south, the new west are places where these hispanic voters are going to decide the outcome of these very, very close elections. the election itself is going to be very close and clearly being outflanked in terms of finding a way forward on immigration by folks like marco rubio is not going to make it easier for governor romney to appeal to the hard right base of the new south he needs o carry forward. >> heather: and phil, you're going to maybe get the final word here. we have one minute left. you talked about the economy being the most important and there is a poll that backs you

up as well, pugh hispanic poll asked which issues are important. they said roughly half of hispanics say jobs and education more important than immigration. >> talk being thousand they're interrelated and critical to the future of our economy and to be able to grow our economy in a way we're not dribbling along for another four years of kind of anemic growth and failed government centric policies. that's the vision that governor romney has to articulate. whether you're hispanic, african-american or white american, those are kinds of issues that resonate with the american people 'cause we that had to get this economy moving. that's where the issue will frame. josh right, it will be a close election decided in a small number of states. >> heather: thank you both very much. we appreciate it. phil, josh, thank you. >> thank you. >> heather: don't miss fox news sunday tomorrow. interview with mitch daniels. he'll talk about how he sees the election shaping up. so definitely tune in for that.

>> gregg: some in the media are sounding the alarm, saying america's days of glory are over. are they overdoing it with these stories of decline and fall, or is there a point to it? liz trotta coming up in a few minutes. >> heather: a boy who vanished more than 30 years ago now police could be on the verge of the biggest break that they've had in the search for etan patz. >> we're going to be having the latest from the f.b.i. and nypd in their investigation as they search for etan. we're a block away from the bus stop where he was headed the day he vanished in 1979. we'll have more after the break.

>> gregg: it is the bottom of the hour. time for the top of the news.

orrin hatch may be in for a political fight his life. he has been forced now into a june runoff by state republicans at their convention. he fell just short of securing an automatic nomination by fewer than 50 votes. >> heather: a man at the center of the watergate scandal dying at 80 years old. chuck colson is remembered as a top advisor to president richard nixon and he also founded prison ministry touching the lives of thousands. >> gregg: hugo chavez hasn't been seen in public for a week now. that has many people wondering about his cancer treatments in cuba. he has been using twitter to encourage supporters. >> heather: investigators following new leads in the search for the remains of etan patz. his story touched the nation, becoming one of the first missing children to appear on a milk carton. the little boy vanished in 1979 walking to a school bus stop. the f.b.i. and nypd are right now excavate ago basement in

lower manhattan. now more from anna. >> investigators have been out here for three days now. yes, excavating a basement in a manhattan building here behind me. it sits below multiple boutiques. we're situated about a block away from the bus stop where etan was headed for the very first time alone, the day he vanished back in 1979. the f.b.i. and the nypd have teamed up. there are about 50 total agents and officer, kellogg forensic expert and anthropologist on scene. investigators dug up the concrete floor and moved on to the soil below the basement. teams have been using jack hammers, chain saws and dust masks. in 1979, the bottom of the building was being used as a workshop by a neighborhood handyman. the now 75-year-old handyman has hired an attorney who tells the media, miller is cooperating with investigators, but has no

involvement in this case. >> i believe he is conveyed that message multiple times over 30 years. he is as moved by all of us by this and he recognizes and agrees this is a terrible tragedy. we should not be compounding one tragedy by ruining another person's life who had nothing to do with it. >> new york police commissioner raymond kelly says he's not going to be speaking about any potential suspects in this case. for decades, there was a prime suspect, jose a pose, a man locked up in prison who was never convicted in etan's case, but held responsible in a wrongful death suit. etan's parents still live in this soho neighborhood and place add sign on their front door and they have asked for privacy. this is tough on the entire community and their family in particular. but this is happening a month before national missing children's day, which is on may

25. that's also the very same date that etan disappeared. he's really become a national symbol for childhood safety. investigators do plan on coming back out here to the scene tomorrow and continuing their search effort. heather, back to you. >> as we were doing this story, just crossing the wires, the search for a missing six-year-old little girl in tucson, arizona. so thanks to etan, definitely a lot more credence given to missing children these days. thank you. >> gregg: america had a tough few years, often taking hits from the world wide press, writing her obituary, to global leaders. is that fair? advise an author, journalist and fox news contributor and joins us live. hi, liz. is america in decline? >> well, it depends who is writing the story. and whose point of view. there are people who are genuinely writing stories, essays, books, poem, you name it, about -- and having discussions and seminars and university courses, et cetera about whether america is in

decline. of course, many are coming with an anti-american feeling and a political left viewpoint. but there are also many writers who were doing it with a very well meaning intention. i would cite, for example, this week, charles krauthammer's column on the last voyage of discovery and how our space program is virtually in the depths and will not reach the glory that we had expect that had it would reach for travel in outer space. this is due to more visits to the moon, reaching mars, and i think he set the right tone of a nostalgia for the lack of during do and the lack of vision that we had. that is a good example. there are many bad examples of what they call people who are decliners. in fact, it's become so popular,

that foreign policy magazine actually has a section on its web site that says decliner watch, or decline watch.com. so you can go there and read all the bad things that are happening in america. a lot of this happened at the -- started in the 1960s when all of the figures of authority started to collapse and of course, the defeat in vietnam didn't help things. the gulf war with some relief. but there was still that feeling that america couldn't do everything. foreign writers, particularly the british, were having a field day and still are about saying, well, the sunset on the british empire in 1945 and your part is coming, too. the sun is going to set for you. but a lot of that is done by third world writers who are confusing america with their own anticolonial feelings about where they grew up. >> gregg: let's look at some of the facts here.

liz, our growth is anemic. deficit $1.2 trillion. unemployment has been above 8.3%. gas prices above 4 burks. aggregate debt exceeds $15 trillion. medicare, social security may soon be insolvent. isn't that evidence of decline, or at the very least, profound dysfunction in america? >> oh, i agree and i would add to that list the cultural depths we've reached. it's a garbage cultural, as i've often said. it's the music, the films, the television. i mean, probably the most interesting figure that is a result, i think, of all this is that that's put forward by david brooks, the columnist of the "new york times" when he points out that 40% of marriages in this country, babies are born to

people not living in marriage. there is no father, there is no discernible father. how long can a culture stand up to that? i tend to fall on the optimist side, even though i agree with all these terrible signs because it's a country of great resillians. we still have the largest economy in the world, the best military. we're the country with more liberty than anybody else, although i am reminded of what was said, you can't establish liberty without morals and you can't establish morals without faith. so there is a real deficit on that side. but i tend to look at this country as still having the fighting spirit because if it doesn't, then the consequences will be grave. >> gregg: wow. let me just throw my two cents worth in on cultural bankruptcy. two words, real housewives. i don't get that tv series. a bunch of awful people sitting around arguing and talking over

each other and making stuff up. it's unreal. >> i agree. there is many more like it. >> gregg: awful. liz, good to see you. thanks so much. >> heather: come on, we know you dvr the entire series, gregg. >> gregg: my wife watches it. it is a source of consternation to me. >> heather: even better than the series is a reunion after the series is complete, when they all get back together. that's the worse. >> gregg: i don't get it. there is something wrong with me. >> heather: back to the real world, florida judge setting bail in the trayvon martin case. this is really happening. the admitted shooter, george zimmerman, could be released from jail any day now. so did the judge make the right decision? gregg, you'll talk with judge jeanine about that. >> gregg: coming up next. stick around. >> when you were questioned about the contradictions in your statements that the police didn't believe it, you would say, i don't remember. >> thank you, your honor.

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>> gregg: new comments from the defense team for george zimmerman. attorneys saying they hope to get him out of jail on bail by the middle of next week. the neighborhood watch volunteer is charged in the death of 17-year-old trayvon martin yesterday. a judge set bail in the case. zimmerman making a surprise appearance on the witness stand. take a listen. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how he would he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am, and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> gregg: let's bring in judge jeanine, host of "justice" with judge jeanine. i grant you, it was an incredibly risky move, but i think in the end, it really paid off. you disagree. i watched you yesterday. you thought it was terribly

foolish. >> no. no. it was a good move on the part of the defense because zimmerman is now seen as a somewhat sympathetic character. >> gregg: he gets his story out. >> but the mistake was on the part of the prosecutor not jumping in and saying, wait a minute! you're apologizing. tell us exactly what you're apologizing for! >> gregg: that's what he should have done. >> absolutely. i would have had my prosecutors do that. are you saying that you're sorry that the gun went off? are you saying are you sorry that you didn't know that he really didn't have a gun? if you're admitting you weren't sure he didn't have a gun, why did you use deadly force and shoot him? >> gregg: i'm not sure that would work because he said clearly i'm sorry for the loss of your son. he didn't say i'm sorry i pulled the trigger. >> wait a minute. he said i didn't know if he had a weapon or not. >> gregg: perfect. >> that opens the door to a prosecutor saying, so you made the decision o use deadly physical force when you didn't know he was armed. correct? correct. and you made the decision --

>> gregg: wait, wait, you're allowed to use lethal force if the other person -- >> you have to be reasonable in your assumption that you are being confronted. >> gregg: if you are in fear of serious bodily injury or death, you're allowed to use lethal force. you know that's the stopped. >> i well know that's the standard, gregg. i charged many juries on that. >> gregg: sew doesn't have to have a gun. >> the issue is, what did you know and what was your state of mind at the time you killed the victim? you made the decision to kill him. you were armed with a gun. you were told to stand down. and today you're apologizing. so now the question is, what are you apologizing for? and did you make a mistake in shooting him? how relevant is it that you thought he wasn't much younger than you? >> gregg: you're missing his statement here. >> i listened to the statement. >> gregg: i am sorry for the loss of your son. >> and i didn't know that he was younger than me or i didn't think he was that much younger and i didn't know if he was carrying a weapon. gregg, you know that opens the door.

and the prosecutor missed the boat. >> gregg: it was a clumsy cross-examination. >> it was horrible! >> gregg: probably because the prosecutor was so utterly surprised. that sort of thing never happens. >> the defendant rarely takes the witness stand in a hearing like that and that's precisely the issue. he made the decision to put his client on and he benefited from it. >> gregg: i was even more surprised when the lead investigator took the witness stand and he conceded he has no evidence who started the fight. so how could prosecutors disprove zimmerman's self-defense claim? >> well, first of all, the prosecutors will put on evidence other than this so-called detective who didn't know what the hell he was talking about and that was clear from his testimony yesterday, who will outline basically time wise through telephones, through 911 calls as to what happened. we don't expect the detective to know everything, but this guy fumbled big time.

and shame on the prosecutor's office. >> gregg: he said i also have no evidence to disprove zimmerman's claim that he walked back to his vehicle and then suddenly was confronted and attacked by trayvon martin. >> right. that he has no evidence of that and i think that a lot of this is going to depend upon what zimmerman says if he takes the stand. i think this was a test. he will stay the -- take the stand at trial if the prosecution gets beyond the hearing. >> gregg: there is the bloody head photograph, which is now emerged. we have -- we haven't authenticated it. but if he it's george zimmerman's head, that is evidence. and there is another who said, good night on the bottom who had a red sweater was yelling to me, help, help. and i told him to stop, i was calling 911. zimmerman was the man in red. >> that we know. let me ask you a question, gregg. as you look at that photo with

the blood, okay, if i am on the ground and my head is being bashed against the comment, would the blood necessarily flow toward the front? wouldn't there be splatter marks on top? >> gregg: it's towards the back of his head. >> but the injury on the left is flowing sideways, not down. there is no blood or splatter or any kind of clotting above that straight line. this has to be authenticated. there are a lot of issues with that picture. >> gregg: all right. judge jeanine, you and i are pals. i just love to argue with you. >> vice-versa. >> gregg: we have fun arguing. you can catch "justice" with judge jeanine at 9:00 p.m. eastern time right here on the fox news channel we'll be right back.

>> heather: series of crisis over the past year testing the u.s. and afghanistan relationship. first came a video showing u.s. troops urinating on the corpses of taliban militants. in february the burning of the koran at a u.s. base sparking deadly protests. and last month, a u.s. soldier was accused of going on a rampage, killing afghan civilians and just this week, straining ties even further, word of u.s. troops posing a the would body parts of afghan

bombers. how is this affecting the morale and safety of our troops? jack keane is a retired four star general, former vice chief of staff of the army and fox news military analyst. thank you for joining us. >> glad to be here. >> heather: let me begin by saying this, that we are proud of our u.s. forces, the vast majority of them, they are honorable, brave, kind, good and indispensable for our freedom. so i want to begin by saying that. but that being said, how do they deal with these incidents? how does it affect morale? >> morale in afghanistan, i was there a couple of months ago, is sky high. it's because they have a winning hand. they've defeated the taliban largely in the south and southwest and we've shifted to priority to the east where they're starting to make some progress as well. so they feel very good about what they're doing every day. when something like this happens, they look at it examine have difficulty identifying with it because they don't understand how anybody could do something like that. so they have a tendency to push

it away and get back on with their job and what they're doing every single day. morale is about as good as it possibly could be given the challenges that they're facing. >> heather: so jumping now to the situation at hand, where are we in terms of the transition to afghanistan, to take the lead that's set for 2014, how are we doing? >> we're on schedule, pretty much. we're going to turn over the lead in kandahar and hellman province this summer and fall. that's the toughest place we've been fighting. that's where we put the surge forces in these last two years. the fact that we're going to do that really is testimony to the progress that we've made and also obviously to the progress the afghan national security forces have made. so we're on schedule for that. but here is what's in front of us. the challenges are these: general allen will want to leave 68,000 troops in afghanistan through the fighting season of 2013. if the administration does not permit them to do that, then the risk goes up and the end game

gets challenged. we need to leave a residual force, probably of about 25,000, or i don't know the exact number. if the administration comes back and puts a minimal force on the table, like we did in iraq with only 10,000, everyone will know that's not a serious force and therefore, the end game will be at risk. and if we don't finance and fund the afghan national security forces when we leave in 2014, if don't have the wherewithal do to do what they need to do and they don't have the money and their numbers come down, that's a recipe for failure because as we're leaving, we would reb accusing the afghan national security forces who have to take over from us at a time when they'll be conducting operations independent much us. >> heather: thank you for joining us. i would add something to that list, i think we should listen to you as well. general, thank you for your insight as always. >> take care. >> gregg: always good getting the insight from the general there. that's going to do it for us. rick folbaum, arthel neville

will be taking over top of the hour. my daughter e-mailed me and said, dad, you're in the dog house with mom. >> heather: she's going to force to you watch the housewives show. >> gregg: that crack i made? i'm beginning to regret that. >> heather: we will see you tomorrow right here at 4 p.m be sure to join us. >> gregg: have a great weekend y of single mile credirds. battle speech right? may i? [ horse neighs ] or too long, people have settled for single miles. with the capital one venture card, you'll earn doubleiles on every purchase, every day! [ visigoths cheer ] hawaii, here we come. [ alec ] so sign up day for a venture card at capitalone.com. and start earning double. [ all ] double miles! [ brays ] what's in your wallet? can you play games on that? not on the runway. no.

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