>> bill: more madness on the left over the presidential election. we will show you genuine hysteria this evening. [ laughter ] >> you are the grand wizard crowd. [see them out on othe streets at night ♪ walking ♪ picking up all kinds of strangers in the bright dim light ♪ bad girls. >> bill: the forces that want to legalize prostitution are using the secret service scandal as a pressure point in the key -- debate. >> mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> isn't he an extraordinary leader? >> bill: also mitt romney and mark rubio hit the campaign trail even though rumors fly he may change his position on vice presidential position. you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins in just 60 seconds but, first. bret baier with a primary update in washington. >> bret: thanks, bill, there are primary elections in five states today. polls have just closed in four of them. we are awaiting results from

connecticut, delaware, pennsylvania, and rhode island. we should have our first numbers for you at the bottom of this hour. voters have another hour to get their ballots done in new york state. coming up a bit later tonight, presumptive republic nominee mitt romney delivers a speech to supporters in manchester, new hampshire. he is calling it a better america begins tonight. we will have some of it for you as the evening progresses. newt gingrich will also hold a rally. he will will be in north carolina in just a few minutes. many people are watching closely to see if gingrich gives any indication how much long he will stay in this race. more results at the bottom of the hour and a full hour recap and general election outlook at 11:00 p.m. eastern featuring fox news experts and an expanded all-star panel as well as some special guests. that's it from washington. now we will send it back to new york and the o'reilly factor captions by closed captioning services

>> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. more madness in the presidential campaign. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. now we knew the campaign was going to be bitter. with muck raking all over the place, we knew that. but we didn't know it was going to be down right hysterical this early. last night, former republic party chair michael steele was interviewed by chris matthews. governor romney the 207 pick. -- the 207 -- topic. >> he never said he is a flat earth and doesn't believe in evolution. those are your words, chris. that's how you would like to paint him to be. >> because that's who he. >> that's not who he he is. >> you are the grand wizard crowd over there. >> wait. i resent that. what is this grand wizard. >> right party. >> ku klux klan don't go with me there on that.

>> bill: later in that broadcast. he use apologized for using grand wizard. he doesn't usually attack people personally is he a committed democrat. nothing wrong with that to call romney a flat earther to say the governor doesn't believe in science is simply madness. in a 2007 "new york times" article romney said quote i believe god created the universe and created of the universe. i believe evolution is most likely the process he used to create the human body, quote. there it is for honest folks end of discussion. the problem for american voters is that anything goes these days. the internet is full of unbelievable nonsense as well as gross defamation. now on some national news programs we are getting the same craziness. so if you are uninformed, how you can possibly know what's true and what's not true? and the problem is not exclusively on the left. how many times have we heard that barack obama was not born in america? that he is a muslim? a man candidate.

whatever madness the anti-obama forces can think of. we live in an age where truth doesn't matter anymore. greedy news executives and the net have obliterated it journalist stick standards have collapsed. the trayvon martin case proves that you can pretty much do anything you want in the media and the courts don't care. it's almost impossible for a well known foreign win a judgment of defamation. talking points has had enough. every time i see craziness in the national media during the campaign i'm going to show it to you. i hope you will vote with the clicker. that's the only solution to the problem. that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction. joining from us washington linda chavez in for monica crowley this evening. here in the studio the always reasonable alan colmes. >> why the pause? no need to pause. >> bill: the teleprompter operator stopped dead and your name didn't go up and i forgot it? >> they agree with me. >> bill: agree with you on what? >> being reasonable.

>> bill: even you have to agree on this. >> of course. number one he apologized. number two. >> bill: hold it he apologized for using the word grand wizard. >> doesn't define all liberals or democrats. he did apologize. michael steele was there. who we all like to confront him and say that's ridiculous i'm not going to put up with that. >> bill: not a matter of the debate and who said what in the debate. larger picture is, colmes, that the campaign is going to degenerate into just a mudslinging piece of garbage where he is a flat earther, he is a muslim, he is this. he is that. that is a disservice. the media is supposed to elevate. >> exactly. >> bill: we are supposed to shed light on truth. wait. we are supposed to shed light on truth. that's not happening now. >> okay. but matthews, to his credit, apologized right away. >> bill: for grand wizard not the other stuff. >> flat earth stuff that's gone a little too far.

romney has reversed himself on global warming he didn't know what caused it recently. he is pivoting because in election. >> bill: that's fine. can you go to town. >> up to the media to hold him accountable. >> bill: i don't have any beef with that i hold him accountable. >> global warming human cause once he started running for president he is not sure what caused it. >> bill: that's not what we are talking about. linda, do you understand here the danger that i'm pointing out? do you see it or am i overdoing it? >> no. you are not overdoing it part of the problem of the internet is that we can get lots of information. it's unfiltered and a lot of it is simply not true. and we see it on both the right and the left. you talk with the birthers on the left you have the truther who's believe that the united states caused 9/11. and the problem is people tend to want to look for information that confirms what they already believe. and so now you have people who are very polarized. >> bill: we have always had that you have ever been to

london to hyde park to speaker's corner? >> yes. >> bill: have you been there, colmes. >> yes. >> bill: speaker's corner is a place they set up that loons can sit and there scream and yell about anything he they want very entertaining. people gather around and egg them on like this. but everybody knows at speaker's corner that this is crazy stuff. now, what's happened now is that the crazy people behind some of these web site sites and on cable television are actually taken seriously and are causing serious problems, linda. with the process. >> that is exactly the problem. because, what's happened now, is people have a very big mega phone. and, frankly, the left has a bigger mega phone than the right does. the populist culture. >> bill: now we're talking radio dominating -- i don't agree. >> the popular culture, the popular culture, hollywood, that's where obama's money comes from. it has an effect. >> bill: it's close.

>> it has an effect on the way people view things. >> bill: can you add them up. can you go hollywood, you can go print press. you can go mainstream media on tv. you have to off shoot it with vast resources all on the right. fox news channel skeptical of the left. i think that's a fair way to put it. it isn't as unbalanced as it used to be. now, speaker's corner. okay. that's what we have now. the elevation of these crazy people. >> that's right. >> bill: into positions of responsibility. >> i trust the american public that wide swath of the american voting public are not the crazies. the truthers on one side. the birthers on the other. minnesota people don't buy into that stuff. >> bill: there are a loot of uninformed people. 50% of the people in the polls don't follow on regular basis. they are influenced by what they hear on the net. >> and the bigger problem, bill, is that it turns people off. and then people get disengaged and they see on both your houses it really ends up diminishing people's

participation because they get so turned off by the nonsense, the junk, the nontruth that's out there they want to turn it off and ignore everything. >> bill: "dancing with the stars." 30 seconds. i think this is going to be the worst campaign as far as mud and garbage and untruth in american history. do you disagree. >> i encephalopathy think it certainly can be. as long as we do this kind of thing and talk with it and hold them accountable it doesn't have to happen. >> bill: i like it. all right, linda, we appreciate you subbing for mondayca. where is monica in the bahamas somewhere. >> she doesn't report to me. >> bill: we're not going to tell. don't get sun burned. i know i are watching. the net weighs in on some very damning stuff. later, some pro-prostitution people are using the secret service scandal to advance their agenda. we're coming right back.

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administration by abraham lincoln, does it not? well, here is the problem. lincoln never said any such thing. the quote is from a guy named william betterkerr a presbyterian minister. that quote is all over the net attributed to president lincoln. joining us from washington matthew, the editor and chief of free beacon.com, a conservative web site. all right, now, i think the nit is a -- net is a growing problem in the sense that it is an easy vehicle to put out false information and a lot of this is personal. because i'm attacked every day by left wing web sites, every day. and 95% of it is false. if i make a joke, it's reported seriously. if i have a sentence, it's -- the sentence is twisted around. and a lot of people believe this stuff and it's led to death threats against me. it's led to all kinds of defamation in books and other

ancillary things. i'm saying to myself, you know what? there is just no control over the net at all. and now we're going to get into a presidential election and it's going to have a big influence. and you say? >> i say you are right. but i would also say, bill, that technology is neutral. it can be used for ill but it can also be used for good. i think just as many times as we have false stories we can also put out the facts. we use the same medium, the internet or social media, twitter and facebook to say no. you are not the truth. >> bill: this abraham lincoln thing is the best example. i could have given you a hundred. this thing is all over the place that abraham lincoln said this and, of course, it stacks up negatively against barack obama. and people believe it because they want to believe it. they want to believe it. they don't check it out. it's not easy to check. we did it but we're professionals. it's not easy to check. >> it may not be easy to check, but i mean ultimately it's on us astins to go out and make that effort. the truth is the facts are

there on the social media, on the internet and that's where you can play internet cop and say look, lincoln is wrong. that quote is wrong. here is what lib con actually thought. -- lincoln actually thought. it's not the question of technology. it's the question of what youth are putting it too. that's sites like free beacon or breitbart or any of these other sites play a constructive role because they can -- >> bill: wait. let me check you on breitbart. i respected breitbart and condolences to his family and all of those things, prayers to his family. but he had a story that reflected badly on us because we pulled it right off his web site and i will never do that again to any web site about that woman official working in the government who they pulled what she said out of context. and, you know. and made me look stupid and made the woman file a lawsuit. and, again, i didn't check it. it it was my fault.

100% my fault. my staff didn't check it they just gave it to me and i just ran with it i will never do that again. but how would anybody at home know that that woman's quote was taken out of context by the breitbart web site? how? >> well, it was other web sites, i think liberal web sites in those cases that said no this was selectively edited. it's not just breitbart, right? without blogs, you would have had the rather gate story which 60 minutes published the national guard fake documents about bush back in 2004. that would have been allowed to go unchecked. that's another case where internet was put to good use fact checking false material. >> i understand that you can make a case in the lewenski situation that it was matt drudge that brought that out. and then you can make a case that the straight media covered up for jfk and didn't report the truth about vietnam. john edwards is another one. >> john edwards we were on

edwards. it's a complicated matter. as more and more people now get in and control their blogs with no supervision at all, none. who is your boss? who do you answer to? >> well, i have my bosses. i have the chairman of the center for american freedom michael. the president aaron harrison. ultimately as the editor i make the decisions about what goes on the web site. >> bill: can you pretty much do what you want. >> i love every second of it, bill. at the end of the day i have a set of jils stick principles. the fact is it's factual. that's why why are journalists we want facts. >> bill: what percentage of internet guys like you do you believe are responsible and looking for the truth? >> 99.9%. >> bill: oh, come on. media matters. >> i'm sticking with it. >> bill: media matters, gawker, come on. >> for every one of them there is someone like me, that's why the internet is the place to be. >> bill: then it would be 50%, not 9. >> you are better at math than i am. 50%. >> bill: i'm not going to mock

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>> bill: factor follow up segment tonights as we reported yesterday a dozen secret service agents are being investigated in a prostitution scandal. you will remember that occurred in colombia on president obama's recent trip there. now forces that want to legalize prostitution are using the scandal to agenda. the director of the sex workers project of the urban justice center. what is the linkage between what you want, legalized prostitution in the u.s.a. and the scandal in colombia. >> i think it brings an

interesting comparison. in cart handwriting that, there was a system where the sex worker had rights she was able to assert her rights. she was able to go to the police when she suffered theft. and in the united states my clients who are sex workers can never go to the police, each when they suffer more extreme crimes like rape, assault, exploitation. >> bill: that's interesting. so the prostitute in colombia, when the allegedly, of course, the secret service guy wouldn't pay her fee, all right, she wanted -- the quote was cash money. and the guy threw her out of the room, she went to the cops because prostitution is legal there. >> she was able to report a theft. >> bill: right. and then the police came and then the scandal erupted. so you say that in prostitution were legalized in america the ladies and some men who engage in that would not be victimized by people who don't pay them, beat them up or do other bad things to them. that's the main point here? >> unfortunately, under the criminalization system we do see that my clients are afraid to go to the police. and they are themselves

victims of crime and for good reason. my clients when they do try to report crimes are ridiculed, are ignored and are sometimes even arrested or harassed themselves by the police. >> bill: i can understand the police don't put a top priority on ladies who are engaged in prostitution because it is a crime. it's like a drug dealer saying i got ripped off. they are going say, that's too bad, don't deal drugs. it's the same thing. theoretically from the police's point of view. now, my beef with legalizing prostitution is basically the same thing about legalizing marijuana. that it sends a message that this is okay. i know you represent some of these ladies, i think that selling your body is -- diminishes a human being. it diminishes that person. it dozen harm to -- does harm to them. in my reporting over 35 years. i have seen that almost a hundred% of the time in this industry and i'm sure you have too. do you really want to say it's okay to do this and that's what you would be doing by

legalizing it? >> i think what we would also be doing though is you would be reducing all of the farm that sex workers currently face. >> bill: there would be harm reduction. i can't disagree. there would be harm reduction. because it could be policed, pardon the pun. you could have standards and set. but you would always have a segment of drug addicted prostitutes who couldn't get jobs in legitimate brothels who would be legalized on the street undercutting what you are trying to do. the message to society is, hey, look, if you want to be a hooker, go ahead, and we the society interest is nothing wrong with it but there is something wrong with it? >> most of my clients are not choosing to do sex work because that is what they choose to do. most of my clients have very few other opportunities. no other opportunities. >> bill: what do you mean they don't have other opportunities? this is america the land of opportunity. >> it's unfortunate and i agree with you. i wish that were true for all of my clients. i have clients that are homeless. >> bill: tell me why isn't that true though? why do they have to sell their

bodies to make a living? why can't they get a legitimate job like 99% of the population? >> well, i'm afraid that we in the economy that we have today that is just not a reality. >> bill: 8% unemployment beef and you can wait tables and drive a cab any time you want in this city. tell me why they can't work in a straight job, why? >> i do want to address the other concerns. >> bill: why can't they work in a straight job. >> there aren't jobs. interest there are not economic. >> bill: there has always been people who choose to do that kind of work. >> absolutely. and we are interested in all of our clients, those who do choose to do prostitution, those who don't have any other options. >> bill: don't you think it's harmful to a human being to sell your body? don't you think so? >> that is not. >> >> make a judgment. >> that's not my judgment to make. so with all your experience and all the people you know, you won't make a generalization, look, taking hard narcotics, that's damaging to a human being, would you agree?

heroin, cocaine? would you agree. >> our perspective. >> bill: you wouldn't even make a judgment on that? >> our perspective is not to judge but to try to address the human rights of the people we work with and try to help them. >> bill: all right. thank you very much. we appreciate it plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. marco rubio and charles krauthammer says rubio a likely v.p. choice. is it legal on some parents suing apple because their kids are addicted to video games. we hope you stay tuned to those reports.

>> bret: i'm bret baier in washington with america's election headquarters update. mitt romney has already been declared the winner in two of today's five primary elections. projected to win connecticut a few minutes ago and we received word that the former massachusetts governor will finish first in rhode island. no surprise, voting has also been completed in pennsylvania and delaware. new yorkers have a half hour left to get their ballots. in newt gingrich is holding a

rally at this hour in concord, north carolina. we have a live picture of the room there. we're waiting to see if gingrich gives any indication about how much longer he plans to stay in this race. romney delivers a speech to supporters in manchester, new hampshire in about a half hour. he is calling it a better america begins tonight. we have full live coverage of his speech right here on fox news channel when it happens. another update at the top of the hour. and a full recap at 11:00 p.m. eastern. now we will send it back to new york. and the o'reilly factor. >> bill: stossel matter segment tonight, our fall john in tucson this evening promoting new book "no they can't. why government fails but individuals succeed." so what do you think about lincoln -- linking the prostitution scandal and trying to legalize. i know you are a libertarian and people own their bodies and can do whatever they want with them. i understand it. it's interesting they take the

secret service scandal and turns it into a cause, it not. >> it's appropriate. i think she is right. the hooker could call the police. that's a good thing. >> bill: do you think that selling, you know, if you are a human being and selling your body is that is debilitating and lessens you? do you see that? >> yes. i certainly wouldn't want my daughter doing it but making it illegal makes it worse. drinking alcohol. you want to take another shot at prohibition? how did that work out for us? >> you know, how is legalization of alcohol working out? 10% of the population addicted, drunk driving through the roof. so you can make the argument. >> prohibition was worse. >> it's interesting that you say that you wouldn't want your daughter to do it because my main opposition to legal sation of prostitution and marijuana is that it does send a message of acceptance to society. and i don't think people understand how pernicious it is to take narcotics on a regular basis and to practice

prostitution. it's not a good way to live. >> so you say and it is not a good way it to live. the idea that it is illegal sends a message not to do it, i don't think that's true. the places where they decriminalized it there isn't more use. we don't try to make everything illegal that we don't like and thank goodness. people should be free to make choices some of which will be immoral much the way you are moral is to choose not to do those things. >> i know. i want to protect the kids and keep the message that this stuff is bad. all right. let's get on to the government doing more crazy things. stossel, of course, an expert on this. now you have public polls -- pools that have to put mechanical chair lifts in them at great expense, right? >> under the ada they already had to do it. now they have to put permanent bolted down versions. one hotel told us they have had a portable one for eight years. no one has ever requested it. >> bill: this is for handicapped people to get in and out of the pool, right? >> right.

>> bill: the federal government says you have to put it in or you can't have a pool. >> right. it costs a lot of money and they already have a portable version and they already offer to lift people into polls. >> now got to bolt it in. >> right. >> bill: now, there is also a new law, i guess, that businesses must allow horses inside the business? tell me about that. >> service animals, dogs for blind people. now it's horses and lawsuits. they are miniature horses. but you can house train a dog. you can't really house train a horse. and so the stores are getting sued for not letting them in. >> what do the horses do for handicapped people? >> same thing a dog would do. can help a guy lift himself out of his wheelchair. it can help guide a person who is blind. >> bill: i have never seen the horses on long island. is this around? >> it's not common but it happens. it should be up to a store

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>> thanks for staying with us, i'm bill bill o'reilly. in the is it legal segment tonight, three hot topics, we begin with the supreme court hearing tough challenges to the immigration law this week. here now attorneys and fox news analysts kimberly guilfoyle. there are four things in play that the feds want arizona to stop doing and they are. >> identified identification. probable cause to stop them. verify they are here legally. >> they don't want the arizona cops to be able to ask for i.d. >> well, it's the first thing. second of all they can make an arrest without a warrant just with probable cause. that's different. okay. and they make it a state crime not just a civil beef to be in the country illegally. >> bill: they don't want arizona to have the power to pass a law that says it's against arizona law if you are here illegally because that's a federal thing. >> right. that you have got to carry documents all the time with you makes it a crime if you don't carry documents. >> bill: so everybody in arizona has to carry some kind of form of i.d.

>> right. >> bill: correct me if i am wrong, because you are a prosecutor. if the cop sees somebody committing a crime in any state, they don't need a warrant to arrest. >> of course because they have probable cause and reasonable suspicion. >> bill: that's the law probable cause and then we will arrest you if we think that you are in the country illegally. >> have you figured it out, haven't you. let's hope the supreme court. well done mr. o'reilly. they are enforcing the law. what's wrong with you? we are not changing the law or trying to act special in the state of arizona we want the federal law. >> bill: they are changing the law because in the constitution it is provided that the federal government will deal with all of the immigration crimes. not the state government. >> it's national interest. that's the government on behalf of -- >> bill: that's what the obama administration is saying. this is the federal area. fbi bank robberies. they have jurisdiction over bank robberies. now the local cops can chase the bank robbers but they are prosecuted in the federal

system. >> if you rob a bank, yes. >> that's why i think the supreme court is probably going to throw that out in arizona. >> well, we will see about that i don't think they are going to throw out all four aspects. >> bill: say to arizona you can't try people forever being in the country illegally in state court. >> or carrying documents with them and we don't force them to do that in other words, you can't ask more from the state than the feds already do. >> you can't do that. >> tenet of this whole argument, the last one is this thing that makes it unlawful to seek work if you are not a citizen. don't have valid documents. that's a punishable crime. the last two are the ones that might be problematic. the first one you explained with probable cause on arrest. >> and the last one seeking work that's already on the employers. they are already posed to make sure. >> arizona is spending a message. we have big illegal alien thing tomorrow because all of this stuff has impacted around there aren't nearly as many sneaking into the country. that's a big thing we are

going to do tomorrow. i think arizona does have a right to say to anybody if you are not here legally you don't have a right to work in this state and if you do we will arrest you. as a supreme court justice i would say that's okay but you can't prosecute state crimes in a federal court. >> kagan is off this case. could be 9-4. the constitutional ruling would stand very big. big deal. >> bill: apple computer obviously huge and video games with kids big, big problem. a lot of kids addicted to it. now we have some parents suing apple because? >> we sure do in the state of california judge is presiding. they are saying this particular application others like it are called bait apps. i know my child ordered this smurf's village and it looks very happy and exciting and a sweet thing and it's not. it's devious if you take t then you have to buy additional characters and kids can order up to 15 times in

concern at this that's $69. >> bill: how do they pay. >> in order to have an itunes accord your credit card. >> itunes account. >> on iphone, ipad. >> not you, not the kid. it's the parents. the kid gets pass ward. >> bill: in order to get itunes credit card and charging the kid. runs the kids i want in this this. >> i think that's legitimate suit. >> this is so enticing. >> bill: apple stopped, this right? >> in 2001 is they put this password. motion to dismiss is denied. case is proceeding forward. there is a parallel case in the u.k. looking at this case. >> you can't watch kids 24-7. they play with other kids and in the playground. >> i deleted the smurfs. >> no smurfs. >> for kimberly. batchelor, i never watched this dopey show the bachelor. i have never seed t on reading and trying to educate myself to get smarter.

anyway two african-americans who wanted to be on the show, wiehl, who were denied and they say it's because they were black. >> racial discrimination. >> can they prove it. >> 23 episodes, 10 years. maybe. i read through the whole complaint. i looked and thought no there is no way they could prove it no african-americans ever have been bachelor or bacheloreth. >> 29 episodes a year? >> bill: that's 290 episodes. >> 3 seasons for 10 years. >> because it's the bachelor and bachelor et. >> bill: how many enhe sodas. >> 29 in 10 years. >> no, no. there were 29 a year. that's 290 episodes. >> no, two a year, 29. >> there is on two a year. >> it's an event. >> it's really exciting you should watch it. >> bill: 29 main episodes and they have never had a featured african-american and these guys you think they have a chance. >> they say we walk in are to the casting and not given time

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segment tonight, who will be mitt romney's vice presidential choice. conjecture swirls around marco rubio around florida who was on the road with him this week who says he does not want the job. charles krauthammer says he may not have a choice. >> he is the obvious choice. and if he says he doesn't want the office, he will find a horse's head in his bed. [ laughter ] and the next day he will accept. look, romney is not going to take no for an answer. we have ways [inaudible] republicans. >> bill: that sounds ominous there. charles krauthammer joins from us washington. that sounds like harvey in that clip. we have ways to -- but you really believe that you said that on this program a couple of weeks ago, even last week that if it comes down to crunch time, rubio is going to fold and do what the republicans want him to do. >> well, i think he will although i have to say that that was offered somewhat tongue and cheek. sometimes you say stuff like this. you need to have a kyron, a

subtitle on the air that says irony alert. >> bill: tell me about it i said to charles, robert rice, i called him a communist with lou dobbs we were both laughing and on huffington post and he actually write as column about it. he is so indignant. you are absolutely right. everyone knew you were making a joke. your main point. >> serious point here i think. two kinds of vice presidential possible candidates. there is the established guy who has been around. you take mitch daniels, is he a successful governor. he was head of the management and budget. he has had a great career. he doesn't need the vice presidency. in fact, it's really for him a step down. the vice presidency is the second worst job after the prince of whales. he would say no and that would be it. the other kind of candidate suspect and comer. marco rubio maybe a paul ryan. look at nixon, appointed by

eisenhower young senator in 1853. he went on to be on the national ticket five of the next six cycles. a dominant political figure. it's hard to say no if you are the up and comer. also harder to resist the pressure you would get from the party that would say, look, you have got a future. we want you to be a party man and do it no matter what happens. >> bill: how is rubio he going to get around the flip flopper which romney already has so adamant he doesn't want it. adamant on this program and other places. how do you get around it. >> this is what happens every time. have you ever heard a guy who has been rumored to be a vice presidential candidate embrace it before he gets appointed? they all say i love -- >> bret: this is america's election headquarters alert. mitt romney has already been projected to win delaware, rhode island and connecticut primaries tonight has just taken the stage with his wife ann in new hampshire and doing the introductions. let's listen.

in. >> many of them are concerned about the deficit and the economy. almost all of them are worried about their job or their children's student loans. and then in the most amazing thing happens. people tell me they are praying for us. and i have got to tell you, that is so touching to me. despite all of their worries, and their concerns and their troubles, they are thinking of us. in moments like those, i realize that there is no limit to the good and the goodness of the heart of america. there is no question that we can get this country back on track. so, tonight, to all the people who went out in the primary and voted for us, who got up every morning and volunteered for us, i want to thank you so much. i know you believe as mitt and i do that this election will be the most important of our lives and because of you, a better america begins tonight. [cheers and applause]

[chanting mitt mitt mitt] >> and now, i would like to introduce to you the man that i know can lead our party to victory and our nation back to prosperity, ladies and gentlemen, my husband, mitt romney. [cheers and applause] >> thank you. thank you. thank you for that welcome and thank you, pennsylvania, delaware, rhode island, connecticut, and new york. thank you.

and tonight i can also say thank you america because after 43 primaries and caucuses, many long days, and more than a few long nights, i can say with confidence and gratitude that you have given me a great honor and solemn responsibility. and together we are going to win on november 6th. [cheers and applause] we launched this campaign not far from here. beautiful day in june on a farm in new hampshire. it's been an extraordinary journey. americans have always been internal opt mists. over the last three and a half years we have seen hopes and dreams diminished by false promised and weak leadership. everywhere guy americans are tired of being tired.

and many of those who are fortunate enough to have a job are working harder for less. for every single mom who feels heart broken when she has to explain to her kids that she needs to take a second job and won't be as home as often. for grandparents who can't afford the gas to visit their grandchildren anymore. for the mom and dad, who never thought they would be on food stamps, for the small business owner, desperately cutting back just to keep the doors open, one more month to all of the thousands of good and decent americans i have met who want nothing more than a better chance, a fighting chance to all of you, i have a simple message. hold on a little longer. a better america begins tonight. [cheers and applause]

[chanting mitt] >> tonight is the start of a new campaign to unite every american who knows in their heart that we can do better. the last few years have been the best that barack obama can do. [boos] >> but it's not the best america can do. tonight is the beginning of the end of the disappointments of the obama years. [. [cheers and applause] and it's the start of a new and better chapter that we will write together. this has already been a long campaign. but many americans are just now beginning to focus on the choice before the country. in the days ahead, i'll look forward to spending time with many of you personally.

i want to hear what's on your mind. hear about your concerns. and i want to learn about your families. i want to know what you think we can do to make this country better and what you expect from your next president. i will probably tell you little bit about myself. i will start by talking about my wife ann, of course. [ laughter ] [cheers and applause] >> and, i will probably bore you with stories of my sons and my grand kids. i will tell you how much i love the country. this extraordinary land, where someone like my dad who grew up poor, never graduated from college could pursue his dreams and work his way up to running a great car company. only in america could a man like my dad become governor of a state where he once sold paint from the trunk of his car. [cheers and applause] >> i say to you when i see

you, i think i will tell you that you may have heard that i was successful in business. [ laughter ] yep, that rumor is true. [ laughter ] >> but you might not have heard that i became successful by helping start a business that grew from 10 people to hundreds of people. you might not have heard that our business helped start other businesses like staples and the sports authority and a new steel mill and learning center called bright horizons. i will tell you that not every business made it there were good days and bad days. but every day was a lesson. and after 25 years, i know how to lead us out of this stagnant obama economy and into a job-creating recovery. [cheers and applause]

four years ago barack obama dazzled us in front of greek columns with sweeping promises of hope and change. but after we came down to earth, after all the celebration sand the -- and the parades, what do we have to show after three years of president obama? >> nothing. >> is it easier to make ends meet. >> no. >> is it easier to sell your home or buy a new one. >> no. >> have you been able to save for retirement. >> no. >> are you making more at your job? >> no. >> do you have a chance to get a better job. >> no. >> are you paying less at the pump? >> no. [ laughter ] >> you know, if the answer were yes to those questions, then president obama would be running for re-election based on his record. and rightly so. but because he has failed, he

will run a campaign of diversions and distractions and distortions. that kind of campaign may have worked at another place and at a different time, but not here. and not now. it's still about the economy. and we're not stupid. [cheers and applause] [ cheers and applause ] we know that something is wrong. terribly wrong with the direction of the country. we know that this election is about the kind of america we will live in and the kind of america we're going lead the future to generations. when it comes to the character of america, president obama and i have very