americans filed for unemployment. first time claims these are. that's a disappointing number. we'll tell you why in a moment. got to get that going the other way. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." bright and shiney we are. martha: morning, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. number of people looking for jobless benefits stuck at at three-month high. that is sign that highering has indeed slowed and the recovery based on these numbers seems to have stalled. bill: we take a measure through our "fox news" polling. this is what we find out. 83% of the country still believes the country is still in recession. stuart varney, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. first news on jobs, stuart. >> it is another signal for weakness on the economy. we received negative news on job creation, cut in half. factories, going into reverse. home prices still falling. now this, 388 new faces on the unemployment line.

still very close to that 400,000 number. at this stage i repeat we should be much closer to 300,000 and the trend is even more troubling because it is up. we're not in a full recovery mode. in fact we've turned a corner and heading south. bill: what does that poll tell you? 83% think we're still in recession which is about the same number we found in the poll a year ago. >> bill, same as it was a year ago. that means there has been no real progress on the economy in a 12-month period. we'll get confirmation of that tomorrow morning when we get numbers on the overall economy. again expected to show the economy is weakening, not strengthening. bill: that will be telling. a lot of those numbers go to right track wrong track, whether or not you believe the country is headed in the right direction. our fox following -- polling asked this. 40% believe raising taxes will help economy. 34% believes there is no

difference. what does that say. >> there are two opposing camps when it comes to tax revenue. president obama wants to raise tax rates. mitt romney wants to change, he basically wants tax reform which would lower tax rates but bring in more money from the wealthy. depends how you go about it. most economists would say that if you raise tax rates on the wealthy, that does not help the economy. most economists would say if you have tax reform, lower rates, fewer loopholes, more money to the treasury, you help the economy. bill: that is going to play out in a significant way as we move forward to november. >> that is the election, bill. bill: stuart, thank you. see you 9:15 on fbn. stuart varney leading the coverage. martha has more on this. martha: that is the election, bill right there. let's get context on the job situation. this is where we've been since december 2007. the peak for jobless numbers, 659,000 back in 2009. that is long way from where

we are today as you can see. but when you get a close-up at the end of that chart, you will see if you can, that there is recent up tick at the end of that. the yellow line we brought on, that shows healthy economy. economists say when you get the weekly unemployment numbers you want them to be consistently below 375 per week. that week we're at 388,000 and really for great shape economy you want to be down 325, in that area. so back to this story which we talked about this week. the battle over student loans. there's a new chapter in this one, folks. both sides agree we should not raise the interest rates on those federal loans for students but the question is, how do you pay for that? how do you compensate for that if the federal government will continue to provide that benefit so to speak? house speaker john boehner wants to take money out of the health care law to cover the student loan extension. he has scheduled a vote on that for tomorrow.

he accusing the president of fabricating a crisis. this is what he said. >> the president will go out and to campaign on this with taxpayer fund is inventing an issue that just does not exist. martha: so some context now on student loans. outstanding student loan debt in the country, $867 billion. most people owe more on student loans than they do on credit cards or car loans and some people have said we may be headed to a crisis situation sort of like housing in this student loan area. bill: yeah. meantime we're getting new details on the search for a missing 6-year-old girl in arizona. for the first time those girls parents are speaking out publicly. becky and sergio scelis saw their daughter friday night around 11:00. breaking down before the public, and vowing to do

whatever he has to do to find his daughter. >> please, please to the persons who has my daughter. tell us your demands. tell us what you want. we will do anything for her. we are looking, we're looking for you. we love you. we miss you so much. and we will never give up. we will never give up looking for you. bill: there's a lot of pain in tucson. they went to get her out of bed on saturday morning and father found she was not there police in tucson considered the case a suspicious disappearance, a possible abduction. updates as we get them. a developing story in arizona. martha: horrible story. we have new details on reaction from the supreme court over arizona's controversial immigration law, the hot topic of the week, folks. court watchers say the justice appear to be skeptical of administration's claim that

the state overstepped federal law on this. if the court upheld the law which has been met by fierce protests by opponents it could have sweeping impact how states enforce immigration policies. peter doocy is live in washington on this. we started to get a little bit of leakage, comments said by sotomayor and chief justices as well that give us at least a what they're thinking, peter. >> reporter: liberal justices and conservative just is were skeptical of "the donald" barelli's argument that. he barelli says that is the federal government's job. chief justice john roberts said it doesn't seem like the feds want to know who is here illegally or not around justice sotomayor appointed by president obama, said to the solicitor general. you can see it is not selling very well. why don't you come up with something else.

conservative justice antonin scalia had this question, if somebody who does no belong in this country in arizona, arizona has no power, what does it mean about the ability to defend your borders? this is a political case but president obama's other appointee was absent. the justice elena kagan recused herself due to conflict of interest. martha: it is so fascinating to hear way the justice are looking at this. arizona governor jan brewer is watching this closer than anybody. she has been so outspoken on this. what has her reaction been so far, peter? >> reporter: she was here late last night, martha. the governor made it sounds like everything she heard from the justice suggest that the law will stand. >> today was a great day i believe for freedom and for states rights and for senate bill 1070. if there is such a thing, greta, as a good day in court i think today was the day. >> reporter: but at different times justices breyer, ginsberg and sotomayor, expressed concern

this law will make it easy to lock up people here legally. that gave the aclu hope that the law will be struck down. >> it became clear to the court of today's argument that the justices are concerned about a system of mass incarceration that's going to catch u.s. citizens and i will my grants lawfully here in the united states. >> reporter: so a lot going inside and outside the courtroom yesterday but a ruling is not likely until june. martha: incredible case to watch. peter, thank you so much. and the governor arizona, jan brewer, was inside the high court as you heard during those hearings yesterday. we'll talk to her and get her thoughts on this morning as we get ready for the next stage of all of this. we'll tell you what she really thinks. that is come up right here. bill: june will be a busy month. we know that. new details on the secret service prostitution scandal. homeland security secretary janet napolitano talking to a senate panel addressing whether or not the actions

of the agents put the president's security in jeopardy. >> the allegations are inexcusable and we take them very seriously. >> the misconduct we heard about, did that pose any risk to president's security within colombia or national security? >> mr. chairman, that was my first question to director sullivan when he called me and the answer is no, there was no risk to the president. to the, tent there was such a posting, unprofessional and unacceptable. bill: a dozen military person until have also been implicated and their security clearance has been suspended. white house press secretary jay carney saying the president was angry. and he called them knuckleheads. martha: knuckleheads don't spoil the whole bunch essentially and he was grateful. bill: a lot of men and women doing good work. martha: yep. this is a few of the big story this is morning on this thursday morning in "america's newsroom" and this. the united states versus

john any reed edwards. that is that man's official formal name, john any reed edwards. the defense went after edwards former aide, the prosecution's key witness in this case. we'll hear what the former presidential candidate said as he walked out the of court yesterday. bill: a leading senator calling for protection into the environmental protection agency after video surface of a top official calling for the agency to quote, crucify the oil companies. what was that all about? martha: new fallout today in fast and furious. a department of justice official has now resigned as a result of that case as family of border agent brian terry who was killed by a gun in that botched operation, continues they do, to look for answer this is morning. >> brian did ultimately come home that christmas. we buried him not far from the house that he was raised in just prior to christmas

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martha: it was a big boom and then it was over. how about that? start off your morning with a little bridge implosion, shall we? it was deteriorating bridge connecting indiana and kentucky. they put up temporary ramps until drivers can use the bridge. until that you have to go more than two dozen miles for a detour. that is bummer on your way to work. hang on. it will be finished in temporary. bill: bridges of madison, i indiana. martha: those are covered bridges. bill: indeed. new developments on the "fast and furious" matter. a top justice official now resigning right in the middle of this investigation. assistant attorney general stepping down in july to take a law school job. he's accused lying to congress insisting that no one at atf or the justice

department was involved in the botched gun-running scheme. iowa congressman steve king, iowa, house you judiciary committee. >> good morning, bill. happy to be back. bill: what does this recent ignition mean do you believe? >> it signals the obama administration is starting to move some of their people out of the target area for the legislate tiff inquiry taking place and investigation has to be initiated out of the house side because harry reid controls these kind of investigations in the senate. i'm really glad that senator grassley has initiated these kind of investigations and built that partnership with the chairman, darrell issa in the house so they can continue to drill in. there is lot more to go. what it means is the obama administration sees the vulnerability. they're trying to remove some of the targets from the investigation in my opinion. bill: does it change your investigation then? >> well, i don't know. i think it just, it confirms that there's more reason for suspicion, more reason for

investigation. at the end of this we still don't know who was highest level official that approved the "fast and furious" program. eric holder refused to answer that question directly and i think the path leads to eric holder and perhaps through eric holder and that's the vulnerability of the president right now. bill: we've spoken a lot to you and other members of congress on this we haven't spoken to the public very much about it. we have through our fox polling. here is one question. what best describes "operation fast and furious"? 53% say it was a bad idea from the start. given that seems the public is with you. your reaction? >> well i'm a little surprised it is not more than that, bill. see what is going on, 2,000 guns that are sold, and they weren't tracking the guns. they were releasing them knowing they were going into mexico and they were going to pick up the guns around crime scenes. according to some of the mexican authorities that is at least 150 mexicans who have been killed as well as brian terry our border patrol officer and maybe

double that number of mexicans. was completely irresponsible. 53% of the people in the country know that. there are a few others that need to get up to speed. bill: we asked them about the future for eric holder the attorney general and whether or not he should be held responsible. this is what we found. 34% say he should be fired. almost the same number say don't fire him but reprimand him. a split. what's that tell you? >> well, i'm sitting here thinking, if i were the president of the united states, i would find a way for eric holder to step down and it would be characterized as a firing and i would move him out of the target zone too because this is focus right on eric holder and he can be subpoenaed to become before the congress. sooner or later we'll get to the bottom of this. there is high level determination and knowledge base on the part of darrell issa and senator grassley and i support and work with them every way i can. bill: a lot of frustration that the investigation hasn't moved clearly or as fast as you would like it to move. it is incremental steps

here. you believe holder should resign, you said that before and you believe he is a liability especially in election year. how so if only 53% a slight majority view this the way you do? >> well that is what they know now. as more of this unfolds and i think there is substantially more, you remember that september 19th is kind of the date that bad things happened before elections. that is time democrats spring these things on. i don't think that dare issa is planning a date like that, bill. as this moves forward and i'm the president of the united states i'm very worried this comes to crescendo about september 19th of this year. for those reasons i remove eric holder from the target zone here, put someone else in determined to clean this up. i would dump all the information out in the public and come clean and put it behind me. that is what any responsible public official should do. bill: steve king, thank you for your time. >> thank you, bill. bill: good to be with you. martha. martha: this is unbelievable. a daring rescue of a family

in a lot of danger. construction workers rushing to stop this van. look at this picture, from falling over the overpass and there were five people in that family inside. we'll tell you what was happening there. bill: a fall from grace in a big way. a former candidate for president, walking out of court, after a former aide implicated him in a tawdry affair and cover-up of a love child. andrew young, the witness, is back on that stand today. >> elizabeth was tracking his cell phone use because she was, she had known about previous affairs. she tracked his cell phone use and so he started using my cell phone to make and receive phone calls from rielle. hey, did you ever finish last month's invoices?

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bill: 23 minutes past the hour now. connecticut is getting rid of the death penalty. the state's democratic governor signing the bill,

calling historic moment. the new law only applies to criminals convicted after today. at least one senator wants to make it easier to get rid of geese populations around the airports after bird strikes caused two emergency landings in new york in one week. wildlife advocates are against that plan. the building blocks of the universe found in the backyard a small meteorite exploding over northern california, raining down pieces for just about anyone to come out and pick up and find. >> the particle may predate our sun. there are pieces in people's backyard. they need to get out and find them. bill: so you have a treasure hunt. martha: another weekend list of things to do. take out the garbage. clean the garage and comb the backyard for meteorites. bill: until it hits your house. then you got issues. martha: talk about issues, there is high drama in the john edwards corruption trial which is perhaps lesser known as johnny reed edwards versus the united

states. that is the official name of that case. his defense team went after their former campaign aide and drew young yesterday. they called him a layer and he was out to get his former boss and that was his motivation. a cheerful edwards left the court yesterday with his daughter kate saying this about young's testimony. >> [inaudible]. martha: said sun was out in more ways that one. he had a cheerful disposition inside the courtroom out without yesterday. jonathan serrie live outside the courtroom reading into all of this good morning. >> reporter: martha, a few minutes ago john edwards return to the federal courthouse in greensboro, north carolina, where cross-examination is expected to resume of that former staffer. andrew young. edward's lawyers are trying to call young's credibility into and asking about minor inconsist is and following

up with broder questions. lead lawyer, abby young whether he had fallen in love with edwards. young, responded a lot of people in the country did. lowell followed up. did you fall out of him, with him? young recall his last meeting of any substance with edwards in 2008 the former presidential can date denied any knowledge of the secret check as wealthy heiress provided for accomodations and travel for edward's lover rielle hunter. he quote, he looked at me and said, you can't hurt me, andrew. you can't hurt me. how young holds up during this cross-examination could determine what edwards does later in the trial. listen. >> i think if andrew young's testimony is strong, john edwards is much more likely to testify. if andrew young's testimony is perceived to be weak and not very effective i think less likely we'll see john

edwards on the stand. >> reporter: cross-examination is expected to continue throughout the day. martha back to you. >> fascinating case. jonathan, thank you very much. bill: they're changing the rules for drone strikes. fresh concerns over safe harbor for al qaeda and what the pentagon is now doing to stop it now. martha: and a message for the supreme court as the justices take up arguments over arizona's law. governor jan brewer was in court and she joins us live here in "america's newsroom." and that is next. [ female announcer ] last year, the u.s. used enough plastic water bottles to stretch around the earth over 190 times. each brita filter can take up to 300 of those bottles out of the equation.

martha: hundreds of people turned out to protest arizona's immigration law as arguments wrapped up at the supreme court. everybody now trying to read into those snippets of what has trickled out from the justices from the court yesterday. a lot of course is at stake for arizona governor jan brewer. she has championed this law in her state. been at the center of this fight from the very beginning and she told greta last night she thought it was a great day in court yesterday. now she had a chance to sleep on the whole thing. she joins us this morning. good morning, governor brewer, as always. >> thank you, martha. great to be with you. martha: now that it sunk in and you sort of thought about the things you heard in court yesterday, are you at all, are you cautious about what the outcome will be and what are you weighing in terms of what they said

yesterday and in a second we'll look at a couple of the quotes? >> well, let me begin by saying i thought it was a great day yesterday and we presented a wonderful case and i slept really good last night and today of course, we know that we always have to be cautious. we can't take anything for granted. i'm very up lifted. i feel very, very positive. martha: let's look at what some of justice sotomayor said first. we'll follow that with chief justice roberts. she said to barelli, the obviously the counsel for the white house you can see it is not selling very well what she said to him. why don't you try to come up with something else? that can't be most encouraging words to hear from a justice. they went after him on health care in terms of his representation on that as well. we have chief justice john roberts yesterday in court. it's not an effort to enforce federal law. it is an effort to let you know about violations of

federal law. to enforce them is entirely up to you. seems to me the federal government just doesn't want to know who is here illegally or not. i thought that justice, that justice roberts comments were particularly telling. he was saying that what your law would do does not get in the way of the federal law as they have proposed. it is sort of hand them a piece of the puzzle, right? >> exactly. i think that's what we've been trying to say all along. justice might have said it a lot better than i've been saying it but we just want to work together with the federal government and get that enforcement and use our law enforcement and our resources to help them. of course we all know that senate bill 1070 is a mirror of federal law. and the federal law is constitutional. so, you know, i just feel really positive that we're going to get a good ruling from the supreme court. martha: one of the things that has affected you, perhaps a bit personally, is this idea that 1070 was all

about racial profiling and that arizona is a racist state because it would promote this kind of legislation. what do you think about that today? >> well, that was very, very troubling from the beginning because we knew, martha, that this bill could very well be received like a lightning rod. so i was very cautious and careful when the bill was going through the legislature to make sure that it didn't include racial profiling t has been been very hard and mean-spirited. we are not racists or bigots. it was made very clear by the chief of the supreme court when he spoke to the solicitor general asking them that this case is not about racial profiling, is it? and the solicitor general responded, no, it is not. martha: they have not put that forth as the centerpiece of their argument in this case. you know, i want to talk politics with you for a moment. there have been some who say that if this is shot down,

that it could work to the president's benefit in the general election because it would fire up the hispanic vote which is obviously very crucial to anybody who wants to win this election. what do you think about that? >> well, if we lose on this, certainly, it's going to be very attractive to illegal aliens that are in the state of arizona and that are in america because obviously it says, we're not going to be a nation of laws. we're not going to support and understand that we are, that we believe in the rule of law. that is pretty un-american in my opinion. so it is going to play to those people and it is going now with the direction of them trying to scare, i think, a certain population in our state and in america that, he is the administration is the answer. it is unfortunate. it is very unfortunate. martha: we wait until june for two huge decisions, immigration and health care which will -- >> and arizona, and arizona

is on the forefront of both of those issues. martha: indeed it is. governor brewer, always good to have you here in america's newsroom. we hope we talk to you soon. >> thank you, martha. bill: escalating a battle against militants in yemen. new reports the white house is easing limits on drone strikes. is that a suggestion that al qaeda is gaining strength? what does this mean? lt. general tom mcinerney, former us air force assistant vice chief and general, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: what has changed on the new rules? what are they? >> let me say this i applaud what the administration is doing in relaxing the rules of engagement as we call it that are, in my opinion far too restrict tiff where we know where terrorists are. because we have some lawyers and restrictions on them, we can't destroy them and kill them. and so what the administration is really admitting is, that al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. aqap is getting much stronger and becoming a

greater threat and so we have to be more aggressive and by responding to the cia and the joint special operations command, jsoc, who both have drone campaigns there, and excellent article in the "wall street journal" is talking about this and the fact is they now decided they have to up the ante and without putting more boots on the ground but using more of our knowledge with our intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets we can strike and kill these high-value targets, the hvt's, as we call them. so what they have done is taken the handcuffs off in the vernacular and let our troops go after them more aggressively. bill: you can go after them without knowing names. i guess in the past you had to have the name of a terrorist? now that is not the case? >> his middle initial and who his mommy and daddy was. it was kind of a ridiculous, bill now we know they're terrorists and going after them without knowing their full names. bill: you support the shift. too cautious in the past,

general? >> yeah. too cautious and frankly it is still too cautious, bill. bill: really? >> i would like to see them up the ante and be more aggressive. we have to do the same thing in pakistan with the campaign we're waging there. those handcuffs are not quite as restrictive but we have to change our strategy from --. bill: you would think we're taking out the leadership all the time. >> we are. bill: styles on a weekly basis. >> yes, that's correct. but we've got to do more because as we remove boots on the ground in afghanistan particularly, we're going to have to be more aggressive up there. so i'm saying not only in yemen but in pakistan and afghanistan we have to be more aggressive. bill: general, thank you. let's hope we can be successful again. thank you, sir. >> thanks, bill. bill: all right. 22 minutes before the hour. martha. martha: the epa is under fire for a policy quote, to crucify oil and gas companies. that's nice right? a leading senator is calling for an investigation into those fiery comments and why they were made. bill: believe it or not,

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martha: a crushed car dangles off the side of a california freeway with people trapped inside and california police say that a family of five was on their way to disneyland. their suv was hit from behind. construction workers rushed in to help. they use ad forklift to keep it from going over the edge. >> look, anybody got out of it. likely seatbelts saved those people. it has been a rough commute. we had a truck on fire on the southbound side which started northbound looky-loos. martha: awful tragic accident. four people hospitalized with minor injuries and 8-year-old little boy. sadly a woman in the family in the back seat of that car was killed in that accident. bill: despite all of that, it could have been worse, believe it or not.

a leading senate republican calling for an investigation into the epa, the environmental protection agency and its strategy to keep gas and oil companies in line. senator james inhofe quoting the epa policy on the senate floor wednesday. watch. >> it was kind of like how the romance used to conquer little villages in the mediterranean. they go into a little turkish town somewhere, they would find the first five guys they would run into and they would crucify them, crucify them on crosses. and then you know that town was really easy to manage for the next few years. and so you make examples out of people who are in this case not compliant with the law. bill: the. epa official that made those comments has denied it was spoken in 2010. he since apologized as well the tucker carlson screen left, daily caller. chris hahn, former aide to chuck schumer. both fox news contributors. good morning to you.

tucker you're writing about this on the website daily lay caller. this is like red meat, isn't it? >> this is the truth way other federal agencies operate, obey or we will crush you. there has never been a clearer admission of abuse of federal power. certain mind set on the left that energy is bad. i will remind the left energy separates us from less-developed countries. the only reason we're not burkina fossa we have energy. attack energy you move america back by definition. bill: can you defend comments, chris? >> i think republicans like to take things out of context and paint things with a broad brush. nothing could be further from the truth what tucker just said. this president has produced more oil, has been pro-fracking, pro-energy production in this country. let me explain something. i don't understand. republicans are find with making example out of an illegal immigrant who rosses this border looking for better life.

energy producer who pollutes a hole and hurts a water supply not make example out of him. where is the logic there, tucker? he was talking about people that violate the law. his particular policy, not epa policy. bill: quoting him directly. >> third to know what context would be. a video from the man who uttered these words apologized for them. conceded he said this. president obama hasn't produced a single drop of oil or a single cubic foot of natural gas. >> we have produced more under president obama than we did under the last four years of bush. let's be real. >> and not one single inch of that oil or that natural gas was priced by this president. if it weren't for fracking. >> yes it was. >> shale deposit. let me finish. you wouldn't have any economic recovery at all. ohio would cease to exist. pennsylvania, deep trouble. the mountain states. the reason that this economy isn't in a full-on depression is because of

energy exploration, period. and this administration has done as you well know, virtually nothing to help. >> this president has been supportive of fracking. fracking has flourished under this president. i don't understand where you're coming from with this. i think republicans are making this up in an attempt to link him to gas prices by the way, tucker, if you want to link him to gas prices now, please link to in october when they come down and give him credit for them coming down the you and i both know the president has very little to do with the price of energy. bill: hold that response, tucker. this is more from inhofe too, who makes an allegation about the administration. roll this. >> according to administrator armandaris, eppa's general it philosophy is crucify and make examples of energy producers so other companies will fall in line it epa regulatory whims. his comments give us a rare glimpse of the obama administration's true agenda. bill: is that the agenda, chris?

inhofe goes on to inciting fear in the process which will turn americans against the policy of fracking or oil exploration? >> i don't think inhofe watched the tape. this administrator said it was enforcement philosophy when somebody violates the law, you make an example out of them. which i think inhofe has said about the illegal immigrants time and time again in his career. so i don't understand. i guess the weak and the poor need to be attacked but the strong and rich do not under inhofe's ways. that doesn't make any sense to me at all. >> it's hard to argue with bumper stickers. let me just say, the administrator said very clearly he cited romance. picked first five guys they met and they punished them with no reference to crimes they may or may not have committed in order to manage everyone else through fear. this is what he said. by the way, the comparison to illegal immigrants, that is none second wit ture. i will ignore that. and he apologized for it and,

i don't think he should defend it base it is indefensible. >> he since apologized. we'll get our hands on the tape. when we do we'll share with our viewers and they can decide for themselves. tucker thank you. chris hahn, thanks to you as well. >> thank you. bill: go to fox news.com slash "america's newsroom." there is bya box. leave your question online. or twitter at hemmer because you asked, bya. a kerr if you have fell you could say. i read that yesterday. martha: you got the highest minimum wage in the country has been upped to 10.29 an hour and where they did that. why local business owners say it may do more harm to workers than good. bill: check out this little guy. what caused this poor little guy to get so upset at his favorite team's baseball. there is crying in baseball. martha: it is it right there. there is the evidence. bill: indeed

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bill: so there is crying in baseball. tears at a texas rangers game not because of the outcome, the final score but because of this. >> here's what happened. caught the ball. oh, my god. they can't give it to the kid? bill: that was just the beginning. the couple sitting next to that boy, they scored the catch. that guy is so upset. his face is beet red.

apparently they did not notice or hear him or care because they were posing with the prize and taking pictures and kid is still crying, crying and played out on live tv. martha: his arm is reaching over there and got his mitt and, now they're turning around. look behind them. hey, we got the ball. bill: in the end the little guy got a souvenir ball because some of the players on the rangers teams noticed this was going on and on. they walked over and handed one directly to him so he would catch it. make the little boy feel better. martha: doesn't make female feel better what happened. bill: some day he will know about it. >> caught on videotape. not a good thing tiles. business owners in one american city are not happy with their newest national distinction. minimum wage in new mexico is $10.29 which is good if you're getting minimum wage check. but it is highest in the

nation. federal minimum wage is $7.25. so what is problem? alicia acuna joins us live with more on that. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, martha. this new wage went into effect on march 1st. business owners say this new minimum is bad for business. >> for a town of less than 100,000 people, we are going to be paying the highest minimum wage in the entire states united states of america. >> reporter: santa fe now requires private businesses to pay $10.29 an hour. >> i think the impetus has been to put a better floor under the low-wage workers. >> reporter: this southwestern artists mecca has a cost of living 18% higher than the national average according to the city. mayor david coss couldn't wait for the state to raise the minimum wage so they did it themselves. >> we've been leaders in economic development and leaders in art and culture. we're very proud of that role and we think it works

for our town. >> we're very concerned about the effect on local business. >> reporter: not everyone is happy. the wage increases are tied to the consumer price index. when the cpi rises, so does the wage. >> it goes up and up and up. that is the question i would like to ask our mayor, where is the cap? >> reporter: when the cpi goes down the minimum wage stays the same. opponents say santa fe's economy suffers in the long run. >> it already discouraged people from coming in to establish a new business in this market but it is also put a lot of people out of business because they can't afford to do this. >> reporter: now just outside the santa fe city limits businesses can pay the state-mandated minimum wage, martha, which is $3 less than what businesses enside the town's limits have to pay. back to you. martha: interesting. alicia, thank you very much in santa fe, new mexico. very beautiful there in sante fe, new mexico. bill: that little guy and baseball. so cute. martha: give me a break. they felt bad about that.

didn't they realize he was standing there like this? give me the ball. look at it again. watch the close-up. bill: face looks like a tomato. martha: i got it. he all excited, isn't it. a hill chubby outreached arm that gets me. i look at that little arm. the kid is so cute. bill: we would have helped him out obviously. martha: of course we would have given him a ball. it is a baseball for heaven's sakes. how important could it be to grown-ups. bill: brand new warning. difficult transition here. from the feds, why terrorist officials are warning local officials to stay alert on specific date. martha: brand new poll numbers this morning, folks. the jump between mitt romney and president obama, you will find these very interesting i think. if the election were held today. i have two car insurance front of you here.

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martha: fox news alert exclusive for you now. it has been close to one year since u.s. forces took out osama bin laden. now there are stern warnings in a new intelligence bulletin that has come out. fresh concerns about the possibility of a so-called lone wolf terrorist who may use the anniversary of that event to launch a symbolic revenge attack. and that is how we start the second hour here, brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. no specific thets but known terrothreats.

catherine herridge on this in washington. what are we learning about the bull ton, catherine. >> reporter: good morning, apbg thank you. the bulletin obtained by fox is the departure from the typical intelligence bill tins. it includes f.b.i., homeland taourt anhomeland security and norcom which is responsible for scrambling jets when there is a threat. al-qaida would do then attack on this anniversary as a symbolic victory. in late february the pakistanis destroyed osama bin laden's compound fearing that it might become a shrine for his followers. they have called for retaliation. the bulletin warns about the risk of loan wolf attacks the issue put to the homeland security on the hill on wednesday. >> would you agree that the idea of homegrown terrorism and

attack from within is greater today than it was say maybe five years ago? the radicalization. >> i think that's right. i think we have seen -- it's -- when i say terrorism continues to evolve, that is one of the evolutions that we're seeing, radicalization of the point of terrorist violence. >> reporter: authorities are concerned that the lone wolves could act with me warning on the anniversary, but again no specific threats. bill: there are a lot of americans overseas. pakistan, what do we know about a warning there. >> reporter: a security message from the u.s. embassy in pakistan was sent out this morning, significantly it restricts all personal from going to restaurants and markets for ten years starting tomorrow. and they are recommending that american systems in islamabad take similar action. while it doesn't contain specifically threats or warnings it runs through this first

anniversary. bill: thank you. we know you'll be back if you have more. catherine herridge. martha: brand-new fox news polls this morning in the presidential race, the first new numbers that we've seen since mitt romney game the presumptive nominee and really turned his focus to the head-to-head match up with the president. if the election were held today, this is what it looks like. they would split the vote right down the middle, 4 46% for each of these men. steven hayes joins me now weekly written for the standard and fox news contributor. not so surprising that we are seeing a so a coalescing of one side behind mitt romney. >> no it's not. now that the republican primary is over that bitter fighting is done with. he still has work to do and i think our poll suggests that. there are some conservatives b a quarter of them say they don't yet have a favorable opinion of mitt romney. he's still got work to do among

conservatives. i'm not surprised to see his numbers climb a bit with the end the primary. martha: everybody knows this race will be won among the independents. let's take a look how that went in this patrol. poll. this has got to be a pretty good number for the romney people as he pours over the numbers. he is up 6 percentage points among independents and the president has dropped from 40% and marched down to 33%. >> this is a significant lead for mitt romney with independents. it is one of two things that the white house has to be concerned about. the other one is women. president obama has a 5% advantage over mitt romney. if you look back historically over the past five elections and democrats have won four of those you have a much larger gender gap than that. and the one that president bush won in 2004 there was a smal

small difference between republicans and democrats. a five-point advantage among women, the white house would like it to be bigger. martha: it raises the question with the whole issue of hilary rosen and ann romney coming out worked to their benefit as well. let's take a look at another one. here is how those are staeupg up thistaeupg up this morning. the president has a 50% favorable built. 40% unfavorable. rofpl rom is at 42% favorable, 45 unfavorable. >> the romney campaign does not want to see their man underwater on favorable, unfavorable. that is a reflection of the tough fighting in the republican primary and the hits that mitt romney has taken over the course of the past several months where he's been in the spotlight, people were criticizing him, taking shots, first it was newt

gingrich, then rick santorum really going after romney, i think that raised his profile and raised his unfavorability ratings. the romney campaign will have to do a lot of work to lower his unfavorables and raise president obama's. martha: the white house has made it clear that they are going after mitt romney in terms of portraying him very conservative. they say we are going to zero in on the guy we've seen in the past few months. is that going to work for them do you think? >> i think that is a tough sell. first as you suggest their message is muddled because they've been painting him as an u u.n. princpled. given the history of mitt romney's flip-flops and changes on position -gs it's going to be hard to change him of captive of some short of fridge right wing. martha: good to talk to you. we'll see you soon.

bill: we are hearing from newt gingrich after the news broke at this hour yesterday by our own carl cameron that he would suspend his campaign next week, tuesday in fact. the former house peaker losing to governor romney this week, especially in the state of delaware, that's where gingrich was hoping to win this week. >> you have t to give him some credit, he's worked six years, put together a big machine and put together a serious campaign. i think obviously that i would be a better candidate. but the objective fact is the voters didn't think that. bill: gingrich's campaign is more than $4 million in debt. he won two primaries, the last one in georgia his home state on the 6th of march. martha: while newt bows out don't kaupbt on ron pau count on ron paul doing the same thing. he says he is staying in the race and continuing to rack up support among young voters. clearing college students at a college in el paso greeted him on wednesday. >> this is not an easy time. the answers aren't difficult,

you figure out what caused the problem. the answers are not difficult. we have not had enough freedom in this country, not enough respect for private property and sound money and contract rights. [cheering] martha: this is visit to the college part of a three-stop campaign tour around his home state of texas. the lone star state's primary is set for may 29th. we'll see if he has any focus. bill: a battle for votes now as the clock ticks down, in independent's republican senate race, after 36 years in washington senator dick lugar scrambling to win the primary in independent. poll numbers show him neck in neck with his tea party-backed opponent. steve brown was in indianapolis, now back in chicago. who has the edge do you find in the ground game there, steve? >> reporter: it's close there, but it may be the challenging here. let's take a lock at lugar's campaign first.

he has a relentless phone banking operation going on for weeks and months. they have put out 1.2 million phone calls. let that soak in for a second. not all of those calls are answered, not all of those phone calls result in votes swinging their way but that is a lot of calls. not only does richard murdoch have what he claims are 3,000 sroebgs hitting the streets and knocking on doors and trying to get people to fill out absentee ballots he is getting a lot of help, over 50 tea party organizations, also concentrating on suburban indianapolis, and they are particularly concentrating on hamilton county just north of indy. they feel this they can win that county and that county alone because of the pep population they can win the prime air row on the 8th. bill: lugar has a long history with the lose hoosiers in that state doesn't he. >> reporter: mitch daniels has cut a television ad which is running in heavy rotation right now.

you talk to richard murdoch, his primary opponent and he kind of shrugs it off. >> his oldest daughter's goddaughter is dick lugar. everyone likes the governor but i don't know if he has real influence over how people are going to vote. >> reporter: when we talked to governor daniels this week about cutting the ads he says he would like to see his old friend continue in his senate job if he can. there is doubt whether richard lugar will be able to pull this one out. bill: steve brown in chicago. martha: the white house is focusing their attacks on mitt romney at this point. how joe biden is joining after his foreign policy kraoe sepbgs always. we'll mare from the white house and the romney sroebgs on that. bill: a dangerous air lift after a hiker is stuck in a precarious position. dramatic new video just into "america's newsroom" of this daring rescue. you will see it as the camera moves closer in minutes. martha: a father suspects that his son, a little boy with autism is being harassed at

school by his teachers, so he sends his son off to class with a tape recorder hidden in his backpack. what he found out is nothing short of shocking. [inaudible] [ male announcer ] what can you do with plain white rice? when you pour chunky beef with country vegetables soup over it... you can do dinner. four minutes, around four bucks. campbels chunky. it's amazing what soup can do.

bill: as promised, video just in of a dramatic rescue. state of california, around los angeles. crews spotting a 65-year-old hiker in trouble. details are not clear. but a helicopter was seen air lifting the woman out of the area. we are told she was take tone a locataken to a local hospital, expected to be okay. that was not an easy operation for that chopper. martha: there is shock and outrage, of course, after the father of a boy with autism

exposes the teachers at a new jersey school for basically verbally abusing his ten-year-old little boy. stewart says he had a feeling something must be wrong at school, because his son's behavior completely changed after he started going to this class. he didn't know what to do, so he put a digital, audio recorder on his son to get some feedback about what was really going on in that classroom. he then posted those recordings on the internet, and here is one where he claims you can hear the teacher yelling at his little boy, and you can hear his son crying and screaming in the background of this. just listen.

martha: oh, my gosh, you can hear what she calls him at end of that tape. the school, which, by the way is supposed to be catering to the special need of these particular children, you would assume they would be even more sensitive to children who are in the situation, but that clearly was not the case, and the school issued a statement, and they said, quote, this is a personnel matter, that the district took seriously and handled appropriately. security joins me now. i know it musstewart joins me now. it must be tough for you as a father to hear those taeufplt those tapes. >> each time hurts as much as the first time. knowing i continue be there to help him. knowing how cruelly and

viciously they acted toward him. martha: the teacher that we hear on that tape was let go? >> no she wasn't. i took that audio right to the school. the aid was let go, but the teacher was moved to the high school. and, you know, they originally -- not originally, but a few days ago the district said this all the people you hear in that audio are no longer with the district but that was false. i produced a second video where i called that teacher's voice mail at the high school that evidence that all that happened is she was moved to another school, which is an outrage. she should have been immediately fired. martha: just so we're clear, which teacher was moved to another school? what do we hear her saying on the tape? >> the one you hear talking about the wine. martha: that is coming later, just wait for that. in terms of that particular tape, where she calls him that word at end of it, who said that, and is that teacher stale in the district? >> yes, yes, that is the teacher. the aide who told him to shut

his mouth that was an aid. the teacher who called him that vicious name was moved to a different school and still works for the district as far as we can tell. martha: unbelievable. what is the reasoning for that? >> there is no reasoning, there is no defense. martha: this is a tenured teacher i assume? >> yes, we are told she was tenured. that's why one of the things i'm asking for is that we need a strong law that says if you verbally or physically abuse a child as a teacher that you immediately lose your job, tenure or no, it shouldn't matter. martha: if you call a child a bastard in a classroom it ought to get you fired. let's call it what it is. it's amazing to me that that's not what has happened in this situation. let's play another piece of sound here which is equally as shocking in a different kind of way. let's listen to this.

martha: she was heaving all orange. this conversation was going on in the middle of the classroom in front of all the children. >> that bell had just rang. that was the first less oven the day. she talked about that and right into the days of the web. what that says is it shows the culture of cruelty and distain they had for those kids. there was no respect for the children. they treated them like robots who couldn't feel, who they knew won't be able to tell their parents what had happened. it's just stunning how they just didn't care about those kids. there was no compassion for them at all. martha: you know, i mean, you've gonna long way to draw attention to this situation, and clearly this is not the behavior of most teachers, and phoeb wants to suggesnobody wants to suggest that. all you care about as the parent of course is your child's experience. he's going into that classroom. what do you want to happen now? what do you hope happens from here? >> i'm hoping that the wonderful

and beautiful subject support can be galvanized to create a law that says a line in the sand will be drawn if you verbally or physically abuse a child, if there is evidence of it you are immediately fired. you don't get to be moved to another class. that's when i'm looking for at this point, so that no other child has togo through this. martha to go through this. martha: we'd love to hear from the school as to why they decided to retain the teacher. they may think they have very good reasons for the. i'd love to hear what they are. we wish you and your boy all the best. you feel in a better situation in a school and we are thankful for that. and you took all the actions that you could. thank you, sir. >> thank you. bill: hard to hear that. a young boy there and the father the way he says, i feel bad i wasn't there to help him, to defend him. martha: he did ultimately. bill: looking to buy a car are you? did you notice the sticker price is starting to spike? why regulations in the awe auto

industry could take you away from the car you would like. martha: we'll talk to a man who runs the tsa about pat-downs. he says the solutio solutions are so easy if only they would do it. >> i went through the body scan machine. the sergeant stapd me there an stopped me there and he said, i'm going to path you down. i said fine. i lifted my arms up. he starts on my leg. as he starts up on my leg he goes up very aggressively, he hurt me.

martha: it's 24 minutes past the hour on a thursday morning. a military judge is set to decide whether to dismiss some of the charges against and army

private in the wikileaks case. bradley manning charged with causing hundreds of thousands of documents that consider classified to be published online. mexico's president felipe calderon meeting with business leaders in texas, but he did speak out on arizona's immigration law saying he believes that the measure unfairly goes after immigrants. and analysts saying that north korea's new missiles that were displayed at a parade in their belief, they say they are fake. the weapons, if we can call them that part of a celebration mark, the 1100th anniversary of the founding fathers. bill: they were props and not even good props at that. we had our eye on it didn't we. martha: yeah, we had our eye on it. bill: the car parts on the launch pad. kidding. airport security accused of groping a united states congressman. he's a republican out of texas, his name is fra francisco

conseco saying he was patted down in san francisco, saying it was comfortable and he had to move the agent's hands away. >> he touched me in my private parts, and it hurt. and it's a natural reaction to move the offensive hand away, not in a violent way, and to move back. but what was even more offensive was that he didn't recognize the reaction as being normal and claimed that i assaulted him when i was the one being assaulted. bill: kiphauley is the former administrator who used to run the thing over there. this mother claims a 4-year-old daughter was considered a terrorist, other cases have popped up in the past week, what is going on? >> that intrusive pat down needs to go is the first thing. i can understand back in the end of 2010 if thought they had a bomber in the system that they

couldn't detect it that you'd put it in as an emergency measure. it's been a year and a half and there is an implicit par began with the public that says we'll only put in security measures that we really need and when we don't need them any more we'll pull them back, and it's now time to do that. bill: let me get to pulling back in a moment here on that. this is what the tsa has said about the congressman's incident in san antonio. tsa has been contacted by the congressman's office and will respond to them directly, once a passenger enters the screening process they must complete it prior to continuing to a flight over secure area. now, you have a five-step plan to fixing all this. i want to make it clear, you're not in favor of getting rid of the tsa agents, right? >> no. bill: you want to keep the workers in place, you just want to change the way they work now. here are five of your suggestions. no more ban banned items. that is a broad category. let me go back to that in a moment. allow all liquids, no exceptions. give the tsa officers more

flexibility and rewards for initiatives and hold hem accountable. eliminate the baggage fees, which is interesting, and randomize security. can you summarize those suggestions? >> sure, let's get rid of the security measures that may have been necessary right after 9/11, now we have other things that can take care of it and weed those out and that will clear up the check-point and let the officers focus on explosives or guns, but not screwdrivers and swiss army knives and stuff like that. bill: if the terrorist knows no other liquids are being tested doesn't he find ways to put those things in boot else. >> no we have the technology to detect threat liquids. the reason they haven't deployed it is it alarms on insurance sent liquids as well and it will slow up the line. my theory is if you put up lines and say these are the lines that

are for people who want to bring as much as they want. there is no reason the public can't decide that for themselves. bill: you've got a book coming out. i want to bring you back real soon. there is a lot to get to. keup hauley, thank you for your time today. out of washington there. martha: mitt romney has been very critical of president obama's foreign policy. >> this is of course president obama's greatest failing from the foreign policy standpoint, which is he recognized the gravess threat that america and the world faced was a nuclear iran an did not do what was necessary to get iran to be dissuaded from their nuclear folly. martha: the white house is set to fire back in a big way today. we will hear from the white house and from the romney side on this. bill: forget about your road rage, the price at the pump nears 4 bucks a gallon. say hello to gas rage. >> you don't know what kind of gas you're going to get. you should know which one to

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visit floodsmart.gov/risk to learn your risk. martha: the white house going after presumptive nominee now, mitt romney. vice president joe biden will be giving a speech that far gets governor romney on foreign policy today. it will say that governor romney would basically take the united states back to the policies of president george w. bush. here is what rom my said that a romney administration would do.

let's listen. >> we will stop the days of apologizing for success at home and never again apologize for america abroad. [cheering] martha: big reaction there. i'm joined now by ben labolt, the national press secretary to president obama's re-election campaign. good morning, ben, good to have you here. >> good morning, martha, thanks for having me. >> you heard that from mitt romney a moment ago. that with us a quote from the campaign trail, and that will clearly be one of the issues that comes up between these two men, the question of whether or not president obama has apologized for the united states when he has traveled abroad and whether or not mitt romney believes that the white house and america must take the lead and be in front on a number of these issues. what say you? >> well on the apologizing front, every independent fact checker has rated that as absolutely false. that is what you've heard from governor romney on foreign policy, a lot of chest thumping, a lot of tough talk but not

specific plans. the commander-in-chief only gets one chance to get it right, he's been all over the map on the key foreign policies of our time. he's been for and against setting a timetable for withdrawing troops from afghanistan. for and against trading with china. when the president authorized the mission to get osama bin laden he said any president would do so. martha: some of the excerpts coming out from the teach from vice president biden that he will say that governor romney's national security policy would return to the past that we have worked so hard to move beyond. where does that come from? how would he do that? >> well, i think on several fronts. first of all governor romney certainly has a cold war mentality, as you heard in that discussion over russia. but the fact is that he's made clear that he would have left our troops indefinitely in iraq, 10 to 30,000 troops. while he's been all over the map on withdrawing our troops from

afghanistan he certainly suggested that he would leave our troops there indefinitely when he hasn't outlined a mission for them. he's enlisted many of the same advisers that were the architects of the iraq war. and he's suggested that we should go-it-alone in the world, that the united states should act unilaterally other than rally the world around important international missions that are critical to american security and to global security. martha: i think -- looking at some of mitt romney's quotes on that he says the world is better off when america takes the lead. and the president has made it clear that he likes to do things, you know, sort of in a more collective effort. you know, i mean that's a substantial debate between these two men, whether or not you want to see america out front as the lead super power and that is the position that the world expects us to take because we have done it so successfully in so many roles in history. is the president not comfortable with that position? >> the president believes that america is stronger when our

alliances with our allies are secure, allies that were alienated during the bush administration, and governor romney has suggested he would go a similar unilateral route. martha: i want to show you a quick poll before we go, then we'll hear from the romney campaign and get their thoughts on all of this. a new job performance poll shows joe biden at 42% approval. hillary rodham clinton has 67% approval. there is always a lot of discussion over whether or not hillary rodham clinton would be potentially moved out of the role and into the vp role on that ticket. that does make it any more likely? >> no, i think we need her serving as secretary of state. the fact is whether it's president obama or vice president biden the choice in november will be between an administration that brought you the back from the brink of another depression. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. we've created 4 million private sector jobs.

the vice president will sum up the administration in one brief sentence, which is that gm is alive and osama bin laden is dead. martha: we'll see. you may have to convince her to stay a little bit longer if that's your plan. thank you so much. good to see you as always. >> thanks, martha. bill: for the other side, andrea saul is the president obama to mitt romney's campaign. welcome back here, what do you make of those charges? >> well, it's humerus to listen to the obama campaign. what we've seen with this administration is they've taken a naive view of the world constantly with all of their decisions. president obama thought it was a good idea to negotiate with north korea and what we see now is they are on the brink of a nuclear test. he said he would sit down with mahmoud ahmadinejad without preconditions. they've had three years now and are on the brink of a nuclear weapon. with russia the american people heard him say he's had more

flexibility after the election. it's ridiculous that he tells the american people one thing and that he's going to give more behind close doors. bill: react to what you know is going to be a clear and obvious charge, and joe biden is going to make it in about two hours, and that is this. there is no difference between governor romney and president george bush. how would you react to that? >> first off, governor romney as scribes to what president ronald reagan called peace through strength. if he wants to talk about policies of the past and peace through strength versus the weakness he's shown we are happy to talk about that. first off making sure our military is strong. governor romney wants it to be so strong that no one would even think about testing it. on the other hand, president obama has made almost a trillion dollars in cuts to our military, which is devastating.

bill: they are claiming that your camp has no specifics, and that governor romney has been -- he's been not entirely all over the map but he's changed his view on iraq, and you just heard the charge from the obama team that he would keep us in iraq for ten to 20 years if not further. i imagine governor romney is going to respond to all of this. i guess the question is, what does he lay it out? >> well, governor romney has talked about his foreign policy. he did so at a speech in the primary. bill: that's been some time, though, as you know i'm just curious, is there anything on the docket or the schedule for another significant address? >> yes, there is, but nothing that i'm willing to share on live television right now. but to the point on afghanistan, which you brought up before, governor romney has always said that we should judge, you know, our moves based on conditions on the ground, and advice from our generals. what he's also always said is we shouldn't broadcast those moves

to our adversaries and enemies. what this president has done by broadcasting to the world what his plans are is just giving the taliban reason to sit on the sidelines until america leaves. and so a president romney would make sure that the united states comes at things from a position of strength and not weakness by showing all our cards to enemies, and, you know, anyone else around the world that wants to know what our plans are. bill: as you know it's still a dangerous world out there. even though a lot of the domestic issues have over shau over shaud tkoed what has happened oversees. this will be debated more. i appreciate you coming in. andrea, live in boston with the romney team. martha: automatic though makers are being forced to comply with breath tee tough new regulations, and they may be good for protecting the environment to some extent, but could it make you go into sticker shock when you go to buy your next car? why the cost of new cars is about to spike. bill: don't like that. he made a name for himself by

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martha: new questions this morning on government regulations against the auto industry, with washington's push to boost autoefficiency car manufacturers are passing that along to the consumer, and that has a fox news contributor, droy murdoch thinking about all this. how are you this morning. >> i'm fine. martha: tell me what the regular lays are an regulations are and why they will lead to higher

prices. >> this was started book in 1975 during the big 1907s energy crisis. this is supposed to increase slowly but surely the fuel-efficiency of cars. there is a recent study by the national autodealers association that indicates between now and 2025 when the standards keep going up the average cars, the cheapest car they studied, the chevy avoi is going to go from 7,700 to 15,700. people will be unable to qualify for car loans and other people will see the sticker prices go up. you may have an increase in fuel-efficiency but the car prices will go up when the economy is weak and people are counting every penny. martha: let's put that back up again, that is the chevy aveo. it shows in 2,010 the car would cost $12,700. they anticipate in 2025, according to the standards and

the rising costs that the companies would have to employ to build the cars it would go up to $15,700. that puts it out ever the range where you would be able to qualify for a car loan is that right? >> yeah, these are costs in $2,010, keeping the dollars evening. 7million people, because of the higher prices just won't be able to qualify for car loans of course if they are continuing to drive their old cars whatever benefit you get environmentally won't appear if they don't get into new cars. martha: you make an argument this it's more dangerous on the road. >> much more frightening than the increase in price is that cafe standards clear. autocompanies have made cars thinner, lighter, used lighter materials and that is all well and good in terms of increasing mpg until you happen to get into a car crash or drive into a tree or something like this. the number of people injured and killed as a consequence are just enormous figures. a judge by the name of j.r. dunn wrote a terrific piece in the publication called american

thinker. he looked at studies, and finds depending on which study you check out between 1975 and now about 42,000 to about 125 people have been killed, dead as a consequence of being in car crashes they otherwise would have surveyed were they not driving in these noncrash worthy vehicles. the injures i like 350,000 plus, people permanently crippled for life. these are not expensive standards but deadly regulations, created by congress and forced by the epa and the department of transportation and it's a policy of mayhem coming right out of washington d.c. martha: a very interesting perspective and food for thought on this issue. thank you very much. thank you for joining us. bill: jenna lee is coming up in 12 short minutes, "happening now," what are you working on? jenna: the epa is under fire today over allegedly antibusiness by as. wait until you hear what one epa official had to say about the

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martha: one of the so-called white house party crashers running for public office, only

in america, right, folks? tareq salahi and his wife michaela snuck into a state dinner in 2009 eventually meeting president obama. then michaela ran off with the guitarist for journey. tareq says he's going to run for governor of virginia. this is after they sued his wine remember saying they cheated the customers on the tours there. you can't make this stuff up bill. life is always stranger than fix fiction, isn't it? bill: did you prefer the chores or the stores. martha: the stores of course, who won't. bill: taking liberties and buying local now. eating food grown locally is growing in popularity these days. what happens when it's your neighbors who has the chickens, the goats and pigs. douglas kennedy is live in our newsroom.

tough assignment, what is up? >> reporter: it's not easy. everybody wants food from background farms. some towns are making it difficult, if not impossible. like many these days marlene believes the best food is local food. the question for you is how to grow locally when there are now so many regulations against it. >> it's tough to grow local when the regulations stop you from growing right in your own background. >> reporter: last year she was raising eight pigs on her 139-acre farm in massachusetts. then the local board of health stepped in. she says they put up so many road blocks she eventually had to get rid of her pigs, even though there's been livestock on this farm for over 200 years. she says local rules and regulations will eventually put an end to local farming. your family has been farming here for three generations. what is going to happen?

>> well, unfortunately it's going to put us out of business. >> reporter: a municipal attorney calls that that hog wash, saying regulations necessary whenever you're raising animals. >> these are animals people are going to eat and people are living right next to. >> reporter: wait a second, these are eight pigs on 139 acres. aren't we over regulated when you can't raise eight pigs on 134 acres. >> no one is saying you can't raise the pigs. we want you to maintain certain standards so that everyone's health and safety is secure. >> reporter: they say they are only concerned about maintaining people's health and safety, what do you say to that? >> pigs aren't a risk to anybody's health. the over regulation of our pigs is the health problem. we won't be able to grow food if they keep over regulating us. >> reporter: and she says when you're not eating local food you're simply not eating as healthy. that's it from here, bill, back to you. bill: in the meantime the rooster crows at the break of

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martha: as they say hear is the rest of the story, folks. take a look. little boy gets baseball. little boy is happy. watch. little boy gets baseball how easy to make children happy. he is smiling. the other two, honey, you really had that baseball, fair and scare square. it was yours. everybody is saying we're mean and heartless because we didn't give it to the little boy. bill: earlier his face matched with the shirt. martha: go from crying and red-faced to smile in two seconds. bill: we have had had a big night last night. we want to give shoutout to geraldo rivera and his lovely wife erica. he has been connected to a

charity for 40 years, exposed misdoings at willowbrook. oh my gosh. it was bride and groom. martha: i thought it was james bond. you in a self-tied bow tie i might point out. you took that great picture of erica and geraldo. you should be available for weddings. that was a beautiful shot. bill: got nothing to do. opengateinc.org is the charity. they do great work for a lot of people. they changed as geraldo said, lives of thousands and thousand of people. martha: he got the ball rolling. geraldo rivera house for the special kids. bill: as we said on the boat last night in the hudson in the east river. like a woody allen movie. classic. martha:. thanks, everybody. we'll see you tomorrow. >> another election year controversy for the obama administration. epa official the president appointed using the word crucifen