guantanamo bay, cuba. the obama administration hopes to shut gitmo down and hoping to move cases like this to civilian courts and congress blocked the efforts and catherine herridge is monitoring the proceedings and joins us live outside the compound. >> reporter: well, thank you, uma, good morning, before the hearing began today, a one-time military contact of mine said we could expect the unexpected and we could expect fireworks and that is exactly what unfolded in the courthouse over my shoulder, when i was here for the first arraignment of the 9/11 suspects in 2008 under the bush administration, the five men tried to take control of the proceedings by acting as their own attorneys, and today they tried to take control of the proceedings, by refusing to cooperate, by refusing to answer questions and refugue to wear the ear phones, through which they can hear the arabic translation and they said they would not wear the headphones because it is too similar to the torture they sustain at the hands of the u.s. government and

also in court there were antics by the 9/11 suspects, and ramsey binalshibh and momegot up and s praying and it is clear they chose not to talk and we went to a recess, they began to joke openly and talk to each other and, one point khalid sheikh mohammed, the self-described architect of 9/11 passed the message down the chain from one detainee to the other and six of the 9/11 families, we could not see them, there is a curtain that separates them from the journalists and we spoke with eddie bracken, before he came down to began bay and he said he had to be there today. >> and for me, as a family member, to know that if that was me, my sister would go there for me, my sister would face that guy. i have no problem of facing them. >> to give you a little bit of the layout for the afternoon, we

are still expecting the suspects to enter some kind of plea in this proceedings and to give you context, what i have here is the charge sheet, more than an inch thick for knethese men and take6 pages to list the papers of all the victims on 9/11. >> thank you so much, for that live update from cuba. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> we'll be back with you throughout the afternoon and president obama is kicking off his campaign officially, in two important swing states, ohio and virginia. ohio, a recent quinnipiac poll shows him with a two point lead and the real clear politics average shows him with a slightly larger lead and virginia, a "washington post" poll out this week puts the president 7 points ahead, the real clear politics average, cuts the lead down to 3. joining us now for a fair and balanced debate. radio talk show host, leslie marshall and mark davis. welcome, great to have you here today. >> nice to be here, uma. >> the president officially

getting the campaign underway against a back drop of discouraging news, yesterday on unemployment, though it is lower, the improvement is entirely due to the fact so many people have given up trying to find a job. doesn't it curb the president's re-election momentum? >> no, i don't think it does at all, because when you look the a, compared to years ago, though it is a small gain, over 100,000 jobs gained, not over 700,000 jobs lost, firstly and secondly, you know, in november, it is not going to be for most voters about numbers, democrats will vote for the president and republicans will vote for mitt romney and we're looking at 15% of the independents and centrists and where will they vote and they'll vote with their feelings, how they feel about the economy and unemployment as opposed to numbers and about the candidates, relatable and if they are likable and though i think it will be a tight n fail-biting race i'm confident

the president will be reelected . >> the discouragement of job seekers is growing. what makes you sure mitt romney can do any better than president obama? >> well, i think, leslie has a good point, it is not about the minutiae of the numbers, it will be more organic, how we feel about the economy in general, the first tuesday in november and along those lines it will be mitt romney's jobs and every republican's job to have a strategy if the job numbers are actually, heaven forbid looking better and the way to approach that is to say we have enormous, crazy spending and obamacare, a dragon that must be slain and assaults on your liberties coming from this president, economically and socially, and, i want the job numbers to get better but i want governor mitt romney and, have the message they can use to win, nonetheless. >> in a move to win over female voters, the white house unveiled the julia campaign, show casing the fictional julia and how the president's policies helped women from the moment they are

born, and call that for a moment, she's at three years old, for example, and, it says, because of the steps president obama has taken to improve programs like this, she joined thousands of students, across the country who will start kindergarten ready to learn and succeed. and under mitt romney saying he will cut head start programs, like this, by 20%, and the other side, people who are conservative and who don't agree with this, are saying, like people -- they say under the current pro grief policies, julia's mom is forced to work outside the homes and will spend two years in overcrowded rooms with minimal standards of learning and will enter kindergarten at a severe disadvantage than children whose parents had more options. mitt romney never said he'd cut head start 20% and the campaign is a bit misleading, isn't it? >> both sides of taken leeway

and that is unfortunate when you have an election year and not just presidential elections, proof is in the pudding and historically and statistically over the past decade, mud slinging and taking things out of context, sound bites, worked and i don't like them but they are effective and that is why politicians do use them on the right and left and what is not inaccurate of the platform mitt romney will be standing on, the g.o.p. that is wrapped in the color red as opposed to the blue, when you look historically, on a state or federal level, democrats are always this ones fighting. i love in california and we hear in california, democrats, fighting to keep education and one reason julia's class is overcrowded is because republicans are constantly cutting. to me, whatever they get -- when they get into a room and say we need cuts, one of the first things is education and if julia suffers from education or not be able to have a federal pell grant or borrow more money for secondary education, i'm sorry. but i put that on mark's guy.

>> mark, opponents say... >> give me a second. listen, if i can... >> but i want to jump in here, for a second -- >> i love -- >> let me jump in, doesn't it show the president's vision, wants people to understand it is about the government directing people's lives? >> yes, thank you. thanks for that, here we go, it is an opportunity for republicans to say, julia get out of the governor's trough and live your own life. the thing that makes her ready for the first day of kindergarten is the quality of her family, not per capita spending in her classroom and there is no connection between per capita spending and the quality of education, and i envision president julia, at age 30 unhooks from the government teet and becomes an entrepreneur and becomes the governor of a red state and is elected the first republican woman president and her life can go a lot of ways and we want liberty and less taxation and more freedom for her and i'll take that to the bank any time. >> what is your response. >> first of all, i have to say,

i'll state for the record, if my party doesn't put the first woman in office i think i may have to hightail it to canada, okay? so, i'm expecting that of my party and i hope her initials are hrc, i'm hopeful! you are wrong, i have a four and five-year-old, and i'm married to a physician and the guy loves stats and science minded, and studied their preschool like they were going to harvard or stanford and when you have more kids in the classroom, there is less individual attention and the kids who fall behind fall farther behind and fall farther behind quicker and as to some of those programs, julia, you feel is breast feeding from they will not be there, because you guys want to cut social security and medicare and, it is easy for people who are very wealthy or comfortable to say, to a woman with four kids, and husband left her for his hot looking secretary... pulling three waitress shifts to say get off the government. >> we have to go quickly here,

mark, the last word here. >> the bottom line is, i know it is easy to paint, only the government thinking that can save women in dire circumstances, i would say those women that your kids and mine, i have hey 20-year-old daughter and a nine-year-old son and their lives in better in schools that are well run and managed and the notion funding is cut automatically you must have larger class sizes, not if the school is well run and not overspending, it is better for all women, all girls and boys and men to have responsible taxation and responsible spending and let julia and jerry and whatever counterpart, let the boys and girls grow up to be men and women in an america where there is reasonable spending and fiscal responsibility and fair taxation. >> always great to have you on board. thanks for your insights today. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> he's not even the official republican nominee but the vetting process for mitt romney is underway and, these are just four of the names out there.

special report's bret baier is profile several possible candidates starting with marco rubio, a man many are placing their bets on. >> reporter: now, you are on a short list whether you say so or not for vice president. do you ever pinch yourself and say, holy cow, how am i here? i pinch myself, because of the understanding that i have been blessed with a real rare opportunity few americans ever get to serve their government and their people at this level. >> for more on what he asked senator rubio, keep it here. just ahead at 38 past the hour we'll bring you the entire interview with marco rubio. your turn to weigh in on the republican race, we want to know who you think it should be and why. we have received a lot of action on this, join in, tweet your answers to us,@hurricaneuma and i plan to reader responses, later in this hour.

24 hour medipeople were killed mexican town, they were decapitat decapitated, and dumped, casey steegel has the latest on the story. casey? >> reporter: a very gruesome scene, 14 of those bodies in fact were dumped at city hall, and, it is south of texas and it is about two-and-a-half hours south of san antonio, for some perspective. we want to warn you, the pictures we're about to show you could be graphic, the victims, their heads, left inside of a cooler, and out of the nine bodies left hanging on the side of a bridge, that included four women. local authorities have not revealed a motive, however, there has been an increase in violence there, recently, a renewed turf war between two powerful drug cartels. earlier this week, near vera cruz, in the southern part of

the peninsula, a passer by spotted four plastic bags and each containing the bodies of three journalists. and, one of the journalists' girlfriends. vera cruz is cartel battle ground, one of mexico's largest ports. and, the cartels are fighting for control. it is the same place where a lot of people remember last fall, 35 bodies were dumped, right in the middle of a main highway in rush hour traffic. now, funerals were held thursday for those victims and mexico is now one of most dangerous places in the world for journalists, in se vera cruz, 7 were killed in recent months, a week ago a correspondent was found beaten and strangled and the working conditions for press there is characterized as similar to a war zone. by the way, for more perspective, just within the last five years, since the drug war really heated up, in that

country, nearly 50,000 innocent people have been killed. uma. >> an awful story, casey, thank you very much for that update. hillary clinton says the u.s. is closely engaged in the saga of the blind chinese activist, chen guangcheng is in a beijing hospital but officials say he'll be allowed to come to the u.s. with his family to study and while on the road in bangladesh, she said she's encouraged by the progress, so far and, the announcement was made yesterday after a week long diplomatic stand off. the economy will be a major factor in the year's presidential election and we'll talk to mitt romney's press secretary about how the former governor's plan stacks up to the president's plan, plus the man willing to pay millions more in taxes and president obama even named a tax plan after him. what warren buffett is saying during a weekend meeting in omaha. coming up next. don't go away. a party?

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>> welcome back, everybody. you remember the phrase, it is the economy, stupid.

53% of those questioned in the latest fox news poll say the economy is, quote, extremely important. followed by concerns about the budget deficit, and as president obama officially rolls out his election campaign, mitt romney is blaming mr. obama for an unemployment rate that now stands at 8.1%. joining us now to talk more about this, romney's press secretary, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks for having me. >> your guy is seizing the moment on unemployment saying it is very disappointing, the numbers, but how can voters be assured he'll do a better job when he was governor, massachusetts ranked 47th out of 50 in the states over job creation. what happened there? >> well, there are three ways to judge the economic and job growth, in a state, one is unemployment number, and under governor mitt romney the unemployment number got down to 4.7% and i'll be happy to put that up unemployment above %

president obama has had since he has been in office and the number of jobs create, positive net jobs and left office having created tens of thousands of jobs, more jobs in one state than president obama create in the entire country and also the number of people looking for work, was down in massachusetts, as well. i think what we have seen with president obama, it is fitting he's announcing his re-election campaign in the wake of the looming job numbers, and, these are not stats, these are people struggling for work and struggling to pay their bills, and, you know, fill up their tanks with gas and so, governor romney has a real plan, comprehensive plan to get people back to work. >> your camp also has a new ad out, that counters the president's efforts to spotlight the death of bin laden on the

anniversary. let's play that now. had a clear shot at him and i didn't. i didn't, i didn't, i didn't... >> many say, they are really unhappy with the way the event is becoming politicized, by both democrats and republicans, what is your response to this? >> governor romney, congratulated president obama rightly with the death of usama bin laden. that was a great day for all americans and i think it is unfortunate the president is making this into a political event. it was a great day for all americans and... >> some people say, by putting out the ad, the republicans are also politicizing the event as well. >> i don't know whose ad that was, i don't believe that is a campaign ad. maybe that was another outside group, that was not our ad. >> i know it's not your ad. i'm sorry. i stand corrected. the pac is putting that out there.

but, still... >> i wasn't familiar with that ad. i wasn't familiar with that ad. governor romney, consent to a fire house with rudy giuliani, to commemorate the fallen heros from 9/11, and talk about what a great day it was when usama bin laden was killed, and with that said, you know, the war on terror doesn't end there. pat obama campaigned -- obama's administration said the war on terror is over and it is naive to think the killing of one person stops the war on terror. al qaeda is still active and, governor romney, should he be president will make sure we have a strong military, and that we continue to try to defend america and make sure we have a strong presence throughout the world. >> thank you very much for your insights today, appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> one man who knows a great deal about the economy, billionaire business man warren buffett, the berkshire-hathaway ceo is hosting the annual

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♪ >> welcome back, everybody, well, as promised a man who knows a great deal about the economy, billionaire business man warren buffett sat down for an exclusive one-on-one with liz claman, joining us from omaha. hi, liz. >> reporter: thhey there, i'll tell you at this arena in omaha, they are expecting to give the final numbers and i'm putting the crowd at slightly less than last year, shareholders of warren buffett's umbrella company, berkshire-hathaway and i know your viewers either used, tasted or bought his products in

the past, dairy queen, fruit of the loom, burlington northern railroad, ginsu knives, for example and when he gets on the stage and answers question for five hours, people get a sense of how the economy is doing and his thoughts of investing, known of one of the greatest investors of all time, because he made so much money and people hang on his every word. >> any surprises coming to you from him about his hopes for the future? >> reporter: well, you know, we have had unprecedented access with him and i've spoken to him twice and i spoke to him thursday night, of course, i spoke to him on the floor as he traversed across -- he goes across and hangs out with the nebraska cornhusker cheer leaders and did a newspaper-throwing contest and eats the dairy queen bar every year and sings the fight song from nebraska but the surprise came to me, thursday night when i asked about the housing market. he owns several residential housing related companies, like benjamin moore paint, acme brick, shaw carpet, the world's

largest carpet manufacture and he said, i made the mistake last year predicting in a year the housing market would recover. it did not and therefore, liz i cannot make the prediction again. that, to me, specifically means that the housing market is still not very healthy, but, just how during the meeting he talked about american banks and he owns wells fargo stock and said american banks are in a far, far better position than three to four years ago and european banks are not and that is the problem for your viewers, your 401(k)s may not have european names but are affected by negative headlines out of europe and weakness and debt troubles there. >> indeed. you have an interesting vantage point from your perspective and it is great to talk to you, thank you so much for joining us today. appreciate it. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> and we invite you to join liz monday morning for an interview, she sits down, with warren buffett, berkshire-hathaway's

vice chairman, charles munger and, microsoft's chairman, bill gates, monday at 9:30 eastern on fox business channel, don't have it? demand it. ♪ >> a self-proclaimed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks is appearing in the public for the first time en more than three years, in what has become a drawn out legal battle, the bottom of the hour and peter doocy has more on that and the rest of the top headlines. >> reporter: khalid sheikh mohammed and four co-conspirators arraigned at a military court is guantanamo bay, cuba, one suspect spoke in court claiming he and others were mistreated at gitmo. the lawyer or a wealthy heiress who provided secret payments to a close aide of john edwards testified the former presidential candidate conceded the money had been given for his benefit. edwards is being tried on charges related to campaign finance violations. a federal appeals court in the state of texas has ruled texas

cannot cut funding for planned parenthood. the judge says the lower court must hear formal argument before the state can make any changes, last year, the texas legislature passed a bill cutting state funds for planned parenthood from the women's health care program. and get out your big hats and mint julep glasses, because today is kentucky derby day, the race will be held later and the current favorite is bodiemeister. >> 4:00 p.m., eastern, thanks very much. ♪ >> as i said, president obama is officially kicking off his re-election campaign today at universities in two key swing states, ohio and virginia. and ed henry is traveling with the president and joins us live from columbus, ohio. where his rally at ohio state is about to take off. ed? >> that's right, good to see

you, uma. the president will be joined by first lady michelle obama, she has been on twitter saying she's fired up and ready to go. they are trying revive the slogans from 2008, but, also try to revive the magic, with the youth vote, where they are stating out at the college campuses and ohio state and later today, richmond virginia, commonwealth university and i see the marching band is here and the scoreboard is plastered with obama-biden signs and signs that say, forward, i'm told the president's campaign speech will be about moving america forward and, that is the major theme and bottom line, republicans say the president, while this is his first official rally, public rally for the campaign, they say he has been campaigning for a long time and it is now his 21st visit to the battle ground of ohio and you see he was here last month for an official event funded by taxpayers and republicans have hit that, the push back from the obama campaign is, he's entitled as president to get out here, talk

to the american people and they think he has a good story to tell and the unemployment rate in the state of ohio is lower than the national unemployment rate and look at the poll, out this week, from quinnipiac, respected pollster that says, number one, 55% of ohio voters believe that the economy is in fact recovering, only 41%, saying no. that seems to be good for the president, what is bad, though, the second poll numbers suggest that he is not getting credit for that recovery, it shows that in the head-to-head match-up th, 47% say mitt romney would do a better job with the economy and 4 3%, the president and, they are not conceding the state, 18 electoral votes and no republican won the white house without first winning ohio and down the street, outside this arena, the romney campaign bus there is trying to sign up republican voters and on monday, mitt romney himself will be in the state having a town hall meeting in cleveland.

so, both candidates i suspect will be hitting the state of ohio, a lot between now and november. >> no doubt. a key battle ground state and, ed henry, thank you so much from what appears to be a big crowd for the president today. thank you. up next, part one of the fox news special series, running with romney, special report anchor bret baier poses the tough questions to rising star, florida senator marco rubio. >> some have concerns about your past. one is, this credit card. speaker of the florida house, you charged personal expenses on this party issue credit card. what happened with that? [ male announcer ] this is coach parker... whose non-stop day starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil no and maybe up to four in a day. or choose aleve and two pills for a day free of pain. way to go, coach. ♪

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>> welcome back, everybody. well, once mitt romney was label the presumptive republican presidential nominee, even before that, the rumor milligan flowing about who his running

mate would be and this week, bret baier sits down with some of the top names being thrown, in the hat for vice president. a special series called "running with romney." and we'll air it throughout the weekend. and this hour, we begin with the rising young star in the republican party, florida senator marco rubio. take a look: >> from west miami, city commissioner, to florida state house representative. to the youngest speaker of the florida house. >> thank you. >> to a long shot u.s. senate candidate backed tea party. >> it should be about the future of america. >> one of the most watched senate races of 2010 to u.s. senator in the spotlight, and, now, to something else. >> you are 41 at the end of may? >> yes. >> a u.s. senator. >> i feel 42. >> do you? >> yes. >> a u.s. senator who made it through a campaign that was at the beginning, there was no chance for you.

>> right. >> now you are on a short list, whether you say so or not for vice president. do you ever pinch yourself and say, holy cow, how am i here. >> i pinch myself because of the understanding that i have been blessed with a real rare opportunity, that few americans ever get, to serve their government and the people at this level. it doesn't escape me, that less than half a decade ago, my family lived in different circumstance, my dad was a bartender and my mom a maid and it was not madimaginable, anybo in the next generation to be able to obtain that and the other stuff is fleeting. what matters is what i do. >> his resume shows a politician on the move and credits his success to hard working parents who came to the u.s. from cuba. >> a tribute to them, no doubt. but an even greater tribute to america. it is one of the few societies in all of human history where a story like that would be possible.

>> he's a father of four young children and also, he says a driving force in his life. >> my kids will come back to washington, 20, 30 years from now and i hope can say, my dad was away a lot but it was for a reason and he made a difference and i want them to be proud of my service. >> the next president of the united states... >> on the stump, he hits home, a message of fiscal discipline, and limit government. >> what we need most from government is to create an environment that encourages people to go out and start businesses and grow their existing businesses and you do that through a regulatory framework and tax code people understand, and is predictable. and they can comply with. >> as a member of the senate foreign relations committee and select committee on intelligence, he says the biggest foreign policy issue, is american leadership in the world. >> only america can put together the kind of international coalitions it takes to confront everything from human trafficking to the issues of iran and syria. the friends of syria, collection of a bunch of countries, 80

countries are part of the friends of syria and yet they can't get their act together because in the absence of american leadership there is no catalyst to put a group together to confront that important issue. >> do you think the u.s. should be leading the way. >> sure. >> military action in syria. >> military options are the last options and they have to be and the syrian people are not asking americans to send troops, but they are asking for help and being able to defend themselves and further their democratic aspirations, and i think there are all sorts of things that can be done, creation of a safe haven, turkey or on the syrian side of the border, providing communications equipment, potentially providing war fare equipment, as part of the friends of syria, but none of those things will happen if there is not frontal american leadership. >> all answers that analysts say show why he is a rising star. >> strong philosophical conservative with a -- an ability to communicate the message in a way that attracts

people. across the political spectrum. but, young. >> he reportedly wowed foreign policy experts at the brookings institution last week in a private question and answer session. however, he mostly read his public speechnd received media attention not for substance but misplacing his draft. >> i left my last page of this speech. does anybody have my last page. >> reporter: others say his appeal especially with latino voters will be hard for the mitt romney campaign to ignore. >> someone like marco rubio, to helps you with hispanics and closes the gap in the west and helps you deliver florida is a pretty compelling case, political case for marco rubio being on the ticket. >> it is important to remember latinos don't vote as a bloc, he says. >> there is something that unites the hispanic community, economic empowerment and they want to give their kids every chance and opportunity they didn't have and the question is, which one of these two gentlemen

that are running has the best idea for them and i think it will be mitt romney, at the end of the day. >> he's working on a republican alternative to the dream act. dealing with children of illegal immigrants who serve in the u.s. military, or get a four year college degree. >> can republicans pass that? can you get the republican party on board. >> the difference between my bill and the dream act. the dream act creates a special category to get your residency and i think would be counterproductive. details is what people deserve before they take a firm position and a hope people will give it a chance, it is a good faith endeavor to deal with a compelling issue. >> a lot of people want to e se you on the ticket. some have concerns, one is this credit card, speaker of the florida house you charged personal expenses on the party issued credit card. what happened with that. >> at the end of every month we got those and see what was on there, party related and the party would pay that and if it wasn't i would pay that, directly to american express and

obviously in hindsight it looks bad, why are you using the party credit card at all? some expense were because the travel agent had the number, credit card number and billed it to that card, instead of the other card and, sometimes it was a mistake and it is important to understand i did not bill personal expenses to the republican party of florida. they never paid my personal expenses. never. but, look, i shouldn't have done it that way. lesson learned. >> another thing that people raise concerns about, what is your relationship with representative remera. >> he's a friend, before i was elect order he's elected to office, he's going through a tough time and we heard the press reports and none of us like to see about that and he has to deal with those issues. >> those issues in case you haven't seen the reports are allegations that miami republican congressman david rivera misused various offices and campaigns for personal gain.

he's reportedly been under investigation by at least 5 different law enforcement agencies for a range of violations. in concluding payments of more than a half million dollars from gambling operations. after legislation passed in the state house that he lobbied for. money authorities say he received through a company set up by his mother and godmother. >> i guess because i'm new to washington, but i never felt -- maybe it is acceptable here and is not to me, to turn your back on friends when hey go through a difficult time, no matter what they've done or not and he's a friend and i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. >> you are raising money for him. >> again, he's a friend and asked me to attend a fund-raiser and he's accountable to the people of his district who elected him. >> he's hosting a fund-raiser for him in may. adding to the media questions, rivera and rubio bought a house together in tallahassee during the time in the state house, a house the bank was moving to

foreclosure. into there's a disagreement with the bank how much the monthly payments were and all got confusing and the bank turned it over to one of these law firms in florida that specialized in quick foreclosures and before we could figure it all out with them they filed the paperwork. he quickly addressed it and we have never had a problem since. >> you were not, not making payments. >> there was a disagreement over the amount per month and so, to them that is -- those are not complete payments and, there are all kinds of other things that happened as a result but that got work out as soon as we found out about it as soon as i found out about it we addressed it and moved on and i have been handling it personally. >> whether those issues are enough to keep him off of a mitt romney ticket will be up to the vetting. >> we have a broken tax code... >> all analysts agree florida's junior senator has one thing. buzz. >> i think the media is paying him a great compliment of putting him under the electron microscope early because i think they see him as a possible real contender. >> in washington, bret baier, fox news.

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>> welcome back, everybody, americans are no safer today than ten years ago. that is the declaration from my next guest, who says on the day of the mastermind of the 9/11 attacks appears in court, the cost for the war on terror are growing and so are the threats. joining us now, terrorism expert, frank gaffney, the president of the center for security policy, welcome, great to have you here. >> great to be with you. thanks for having. >> >> we have khalid sheikh mohammed appearing in a military court today, more than a decade after the 9/11 attacks and yet you say despite all the efforts over the past ten or 11 years we're no safer today than 2001.

why do you say that? >> look, important progress has been made with respect to a small subset of the problem. we have killed bin laden. we've taken down a number of the al qaeda leaders, we have got khalid sheikh mohammed, and a relatively small number of others in custody, and, now, as you say, being prosecute. the problem is, that is just a subset of the universe of people who are waging what i think is probably best described as the jihadist's war on america. it doesn't count the larger community of al qaeda-like violent jihadists, for one thing, we have been talking about al qaeda core as opposed to its franchises. the franchises shouldn't be dismissed or minimized. they are a serious problem. but, beyond that, there is this other phenomenon. another form of jihad that is being waged by another

organization. they call it civilization jihad. and that organization is the muslim brotherhood. and we have done a really there row study of this group. at a web site called muslimbrotherhoodinamerica.com and it shows what the nonviolent group, but pre-violent group is actually doing inside of our country, that is having at least the same intended purpose as the violent jihadists, namely, destroying us from within. and the really troubling piece about this is i think the obama administration not only doesn't understand that this other kind of jihad is being waged against us, they are actually empowering and legitimating -- >> they say they are not extremists and position themselves as one you can do business with and the white house had several over for a meeting and the obama

administration is giving $1.5 million to help the muslim brotherhood in egypt. >> in a lump-sum payment and another $170 million to its franchise, hamas, a designate terrorist organization in the palestinian authority unity government. exactly right. they are missing entirely that this is in fact not a secular group as the director of national intelligence once suggested. it is not a nonviolent group, it is a pre-violent group and not a group we can safely do business with. the state mission in america is to destroy us from within by or own hands. >> sobering, indeed. we're running out of time today and we'll have you back, to talk more about this, more in-depth about the muslim brotherhood. thanks as always for joining us today. >> thanks for taking it up. >> sarah palin shook things up when her name was thrown out as vp in the last election and we've asked you if you have names to throw out to get picked. we could be in for another

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twitter responses. one says rubio is bright and young and will help win the latino votes and votes in the swing state of florida. and another says condoleeza rice would be the best vice president because her style and intellect set her apart. and another, paul ryan, we are in a financial mess, we need guidance and financial expertise. we receive add lot of great responses. the popular choices much rubio and condoleeza rice. the creative answers were chuck norris and bill cosby. and now a shout out to theresa after a semester of hard work, good luck, theresa. thank you! >> a fox news alert. after a delay of three years the biggest terror trial in american history is underway, now, at guantanamo bay, cuba. the five men suspected in the