frankly. welcome to the friday edition of "america's newsroom". martha: good morning, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. we had a dramatic end for nearly two week search for 35-year-old adam mayes. authorities found him and two little girls in densely wooded area in mississippi. >> as they moved, mayes moved out and taking his own life. he is the prime suspect in the murders of the gerald's mothers and sister. what he is accused of is graphic. >> we think he killed joanne and adrienne at home. put their bodies in the car. two the other two girls and bodies and two girls over the state line into mississippi where he disposed of the bodies. bill: that's where we pick up the story in mississippi. scott matis with fox in alpine, mississippi. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. it started around 5:30 yesterday evening, that is

thursday evening here in alpine, mississippi, when a tip came into authorities guys saying that adam mayes and the two girls, the two missing sisters were here in union county, mississippi, right by zion hills church in a rural, rural part of this state. authorities came 31 strong. they identified adam mayes and saw the two girls and the fact that both the irls if, they were save. so asked adam to put his hand in the air. that's when he pull out a gun to his waived band, put it to his head and shot himself dead. bill: scott, do police think anyone was helping him, adam mayes, on this route? >> reporter: as they have been missing for a couple weeks, nearly two weeks, authorities here in mississippi and tennessee they have been looking at possibility of the fact that somebody was helping them get along because like i said, this is a rural part

of the state. back roads, many of them have not even been paved and right here in this immediate area it's heavily wooded. it is like a forest essentially. so they believe, possibly, someone or several people were helping this man get away with this crime. but of course that did not happen as it ended late last night and authorities say whoever was helping him, if that is indeed the case, they will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. bill: we're just getting word now those two young girls were treated, released from the hospital. to whom are they returned, scott? >> reporter: they're likely returning to their biological father. when they were identified here in alpine, mississippi, they seemed to be suffering from poison ivy and just being out in the elements, possibly for three or four days. they were taken to a new albany, mississippi, hospital and subsequently transferred up to laboner

children's hospital in memphis. as we understand, this is the latest information. a short time ago they were released and likely with family as we speak. bill: scott, thank you. alpine, mississippi, out of fox memphis. appreciate it. martha: new this morning a shocking admission from the nation's largest bank. jpmorgan chase losing at least $2 billion in a bad trade over the past six weeks at a time when the ceo has been calling for less regulation on wall street. >> in hindsight the new strategy was flawed, complex, poorly-reviewed, poorly-executed and poorly monitored. the portfolio proven to be riskier and more volatile and less a economic hedge than we thought. there were many errors, sloppiness and bad judgment. martha: jamie dimon stepping up to take the blame for this whole episode. joining me stuart varney,

host of fox business network. >> it was big bank. had best reputation of all banks. very big loss, $2 billion. may get more than that. it is a real big shock because just came out of nowhere. the impact as of this morning i think will be as follows. it is going to put tough financial regulations on the fast track. it is going to be ammunition for president obama, who already gone after the bankers and gone after wall street. this gives him fresh ammunition. it is as i said, the biggest bank. jamie dimon, who you just heard from is perhaps america's best known banker and they're both got a black eye. the bank and the banker. they have got black eyes. so as we wake up this morning big bank, big shock, big loss, here we go. martha: jamie dimon was one of the few people who came through the 2008 crisis looking like he had a good handle what was going on at his institution. does this, you know, complex web of trades as it is described, is this sort of a reduction of what we --

redux of what we saw in 2008 or something different? >> that is interesting. people are saying seems like 2008 all over again and the situation is very similar although on a much, much smaller scale. back in 2008 it was exotic derivatives got everybody in trouble, big banks especially. they went belly-up on the trade. government rode in to rescue. loss sounds i big but by standards of today, $2 billion is a big loss but not huge a deal for a bank jpmorgan's size. it made $4 billion in the profit in the quarter despite losing 2 billion on london trades. there is sense of unease. things shouldn't be going on like this. three years after the panic we're still having a big prestigious bank losing 2 billion on a few trades. shouldn't be happening. sense of unease. martha: you mentioned regulations and this might spur more regulations.

isn't it indication the ones in place since 2008 are not working? >> that is good question. in july of this year the volcker rule is going to be imposed. that is part of the big financial regulatory picture, in july those new rules hit. these rules would stop a huge bank trading its own money with these risky derivatives. that's what the volcker rule would do. but that doesn't come in until july. jamie dimon says even if you have the rule in place now wouldn't have made any difference. these trades were badly managed. they overdid the risk. they didn't manage the risk properly. that's where we are this morning. martha: he said they didn't violate the volcker rule but they did violate the dimon rule. we'll see if heads roll as a result. >> one quick point. martha: yeah. >> if you have a chase bank account do not worry. your money is not at risk. martha: very important point to underline there. stuart, thanks so much. see you later. bill: politics on that football you can guaranty that. security scare onboard a

us airways jet rather, when a passenger tried to open the cabin door in mid-flight. the flight was enroute from maine to philadelphia. it was forced to make emergency landing in boston, massachusetts. the man lifted one of the door latches before being subdued by flight attendants. passengers said he appeared to be a bit disoriented. >> they never gave announcement. appears one of the passengers tried to get out of the plane. >> did you see him get arrested? >> they brought the flight marshals on. he was not aggressive or uncooperative. he was sort of cooperative when he was walked to the back of the plane for the duration of the flight when we got diverted to come down to boston. bill: we're hearing the man is facing charges. the family said they believe he had a seizure on board that plane. martha: all right. also this morning on the campaign front an apology from mitt romney after reported allegations of a high school frank that dates back to the early '60s.

the report that came out in a lengthy piece in the "washington post" yesterday is that a group of boys held the alleged victim down in his dorm room while romney cut his long, bleached blond hair that this boy had. governor romney says that he does not remember the incident. >> i had no idea what that individual sexual orientation might be going back to the 1960s that wasn't something we all discussed or considered. so that's simply just not accurate. i don't recall the incident myself but i've seen the reports and not going to argue with that. there is no question but that i did some stupid things when i was in high school and obviously if i hurt anyone by virtue of that i would be very sorry for it and apologize for it. martha: several classmates said in interviews they remember the incident clearly and they could not forget it. others say while governor romney was a prapgster they don't remember him being vicious or cruel.

bill: straight that he had ahead. she could be the next first lady of the united states. first ann romney goes one within one with martha. martha: there is a lot of talk about how ugly the campaign will get. now looks like your husband is the presumptive nominee. are you concerned about your faith and your religion and that will become an issue? bill: mrs. romney's response to that question and a whole lot more coming up this morning here. martha: the battle over the border is heating up again. is the white house pushing a plan for amnesty for illegal immigrants that goes around congress? that is question this morning. we'll take a look at it. bill: also a new warning about the military budget. defense secretary leon panetta warning against any pet projects. as republicans say the automatic cuts will decimate our military at a time of war. >> there is no free lunch here. there is no free lunch here. every dollar that is added will have to be offset.

martha: search teams finding 12 bodies at the crash site of that russian passenger jet in indonesia. it has been very tough going with the search teams climbing almost vertical slopes of the side of a volcano where the crash happened. the crews can see other victims but that the rugged terrain is preventing their recovery. the new russian-made passenger jet was doing a demonstration flight for potential buyers when it crashed on wednesday. what a story that is. all of the more than 40 people on board are believed to have perished in that accident. bill: national tragedy. defense secretary leon panetta warning congress that pet projects will be a dangerous strain on the defense budget. comes after the defense proposal will bring automatic cuts. cuts that republicans say will decimate our military at a time of war.

>> not only does it hollow out defense according to the defense secretary it creates a 8% across the board cut to domestic discretionary spending like national instatutes of health. we should prevent that on bipartisan basis. >> the guaranteed results will be gridlock, and greater likelihood of sequester. again the key is to work together. bill: this debate continues while the republican-led committee is pushing for a new missile defense shield, not in europe you about on the east coast of the united states. john bolton, former u.s. ambassador to the united nations and fox news contributor. good morning to you, mr. ambassador. >> good morning. glad to be here. >> is this the right idea? is this the right concept to be thinking of a missile defense shield in north carolina or virginia? >> well the best concept is for a multilayered national missile defense capability which would have assets in europe and elsewhere including on the east coast.

the fact is the obama administration has gutted our national missile defense capability. it doesn't believe in nag missile defense. vice president biden when he was in the senate was leading opponent of missile defense and i think he prevailed inside the administration. what you see in this action by congress yesterday frustration with the administration's unwillingness to protect innocent american civilians from rogue states like iran and north korea. bill: that could be the case but iran and north korea, they don't have the capability at the moment to do that, to penetrate the u.s.. >> well, precisely, you don't prepare for threats that only threats are from today. real defense planning says where are the threats going to come from, how do we prepare to defend ourselves? if we wait for the threats to be palpable and imminent, we're toast. bill: leon panetta said no pet projects, this is $100 million study at a time

money is super tight. is that the right way to spend isn't. >> the right way to spend it is elect in a new president who believes in sound national defense and propose budgets adequate to meet it. i sympathize with people in congress and their frustration, national security policy is fun finley set by president. we have a president comfortable with american decline, his willingness to allow this massive sequestration to happen dem straits that. we need to elect a real president in november. bill: what republicans argue this hot mic moment from two months ago with then russian leader. i'm going to roll that and ask you a specific question, after this. >>. bill: and they say that is the smoking gun that shows you can't trust president obama in a second term. how would you address that? >> well, he was specifically talking about missile defense there and flexibility toward the

russian position means an even weaker effort on national missile defense. i think the implications of that remark are much broader. i think it reflects the president's willingness to give up on national defense issues across the board. it is a very revealing incident, very dangerous for our security. bill: do you think this is a big deal during an election year? how does this fit into the politics of the moment? >> well, i hope it fits in more than "the washington post" talking about what it's like to be in a boys boarding school 40 years ago. i think that national security should be a much more prominent issue. i think the administration has woefully underestimated threats that the united states faces around the world. has not prepared adequately to deal with them. and that that is going to cost us in terms of security down the road. so i hope governor romney raises this prominently. i hope the news media discuss the issue because i think it is very significant for citizens as they look to this choice in november.

bill: john bolton. thank you for your time. >> thank you. bill: appreciate you coming in. martha. martha: we have new details now on the dramatic tale of a double agent inside al qaeda. he authoritied the terror group's newest version of the underwear bomb. what this spy had in common with james bond. bill: so you're enjoying that sunny cruise you've been planning on a year until you hear a pound on your cabin door. next thing you know fbi and homeland security agent are ransacking your room and pulling you off the ship. a terror tweet got a diet guru booted from paradise even after cleared by the feds. have you heard this. >> i had no idea what i was talking about. i hand my iphone. here, check my twitter account. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink?

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bill: 20 minutes past the hour. san diego remembers junior seau. that city holding a public memorial service later tonight at equal come stadium for the late star of the san diego chargers. seau committed suicide a bit earlier in the month. gas prices dropping last month. that is good news for wholesale prices which had its first decline since december and the biggest drop since okay. more than 100 bison are back home after roaming too far on to private property. the wildlife officials says the bison are being --. ♪ . have you had a bison burger? martha: no, sir. bill: i have. i think it is pretty good. taste as little bit like chicken but other than that pretty good. martha: sure it was a bison burger. all right. back to the campaign trail

now. a pivotal moment could be coming for mitt romney. tomorrow he will deliver the commencement speech at liberty university which is the largest evangelical university in the country. that address will give him a chance to talk about his faith before a crucial group of voters. john roberts on this story for us this morning live in atlanta with more. good morning, john. >> reporter: good morning to you, martha. it is a very big platform for mitt romney. 30 to 35,000 people will be at the stadium in liberty. thousands more watching on television across the country. it is an important opportunity for him to reach out to evangelical voters that he had a problem courting during the primary campaign. jonathan fallwell is the son of late famous jerry fallwell, the founder of liberty university. some evangelicals still have a problem with mitt romney because of his mormon faith but that probably can be overcome. >> i think certainly there are people out there who have issues with the mormon faith. i have issues with the

mormon faith as a pastor. but we can still stand together as citizens of the united states. we're still americans. >> reporter: fallwell says most evangelicals get the idea they're not electing a pastor. they electing a president, martha. martha: so what do we expect mitt romney to say tomorrow at this point speech, john? >> reporter: we have excerpts from his speech deliver ad little while ago. he will talk a lot about the economy and jobs. while it looks like he will not talk specifically about his faith he will talk about values he shares with evangelicals. here is for example, an excerpt put on the screen for you. he will say the best cultural assets are values of personal responsibility, dignity of hard work and above all the commitments of family. take those away or take them for granted so many things can go wrong in a life. romney is beginning to win over former opponents. the pastor at first baptist church in dallas, texas was a supporter of rick perry. famously called mormonism a cult last year. he now says while romney,

quote is not a christian, he is the best bet for evangelicals this year. >> give the choice between christian like barack obama who embraces nonbiblical positions like abortion and a non-christian like mitt romney who embraces big lick call values there is good case to be made voting for mitt romney in this election. >> reporter: look likes mitt romney is winning support of evangelicals he had such a hard time with earlier this year. recent "gallup poll" found him leading president obama 54 to 37% among very religious voters. moderately religious and nonreligious, the numbers go the other way. at this point he seems to have evangelicals in his column. many leaders i talk to they believe evangelicals will be motivated to the get out to the polls for him in november. martha: that will be the big question how intense they will be for him an come out. john, thanks so much. >> reporter: thank you. bill: one of the primary best we'll look at governor

romney's pick for vice president. martha asked ann romney about this at that in her exclusive interview. martha: big decision coming up have you talked to your husband about that. >> always fun to talk about. i'm not his advisor but i'm a listening board. it is obviously a big discussion right now. martha: are there qualities that you would want him to look for in somebody? i don't expect you to tell us who you're rooting for. maybe -- >> no. martha: are you rooting for anybody? is she rooting for anybody? we will tell you. more of my sit-down with ann romney. potential first lady shares her thoughts how the romneys are adjusting to being in the spotlight. how their faith will affect the race for the white house coming up. [ baby crying, dog barking ] [ female announcer ] it doesn't have to be thanksgiving to have the perfect thanksgiving sandwich. carving board turkey -- only from oscar mayer.

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killed by a drone on sunday. the infiltrated so deep that former cia director michael hayden said everyone on the inside is looking at everybody else inside and creating suspicions inside the network. that begins to take the game to the next level. bill, the united states launch the airstrikes in yemen twice already since the bomb float was foiled and yesterday may have killed seven mill. tants. bill: you know the leaks drawn a lot of attention in good ways and bad ways. what impact did the leaks have on this investigation? what are we finding out about that, peter? >> reporter: intelligence firms reportedly had to wrap this operation up a week or two before they wanted to because they were worried the leaks might have compromised all their efforts. that means this double agent spent a week or two less inside an al qaeda cell than he might have without the leaks. defense secretary panetta wants to know who is the to blame. >> when these leaks take place i can't tell you how much they damage our ability

to be able to pursue our intelligence efforts and so, i am fully in favor of a full and thorough investigation of this matter and i understand that the director of the dni will do that. >> reporter: and these latest reports indicate that the british intelligence agencies mi5 and mi5 6 might have played a bigger role bustings up this plot than the saudi intelligence agency. bill: we'll take any help we can get. peter doocy in washington on that today. martha: earlier this week i spent some time with ann romney in massachusetts. it was her first in depth interview since her husband became the presumptive nominee of the republican party. we have our talk in two parts this morning for you. in part one i asked her about the campaign, her role as the quote, mitt's stablizer, and whether she was concerned that her family's mormon faith will become an issue is what is expected to be a nasty

head-to-head campaign? >> i certainly hope people won't be doing that i think that we recognize as americans there are certain things that are just primary to the freedoms and liberties that we enjoy here and religious freedom is one of the most important things as americans we cherish. martha: one of the biggest criticisms, and i heard it this morning, look at mitt romney. he is stiff. he is humorless. that surfaces all the time in discussions about your husband as a candidate. what do you think about that? >> well, you know to begin with i don't accept it. that is the beauty of having me being able to get out there and disspell some of these things that are not true. he is funny guy and spontaneous and has a great sense of humor but i will tell you these are serious issues he is talking about. this is serious race and these are serious times. martha: "time" magazine, bill bain wrote about your husband. he talked about the fact it was somewhat annoying to him early stages always beating

everybody else to work in the morning. he would come and office light would be on. called him into the office and said what's going on? is that a side to him, you know, how hard he works? >> certainly does do his homework and he certainly is very bright as i think most people recognize. it is not just that. he works so hard at everything that he does and he does his best. i think there was a motto, from his father too, always do your present job well. and no matter what that job means. i don't care if you're sleeping a broom, you do your present job well. i think mitt totally lives and embodies that characterization. martha: when you think about foreign policy your husband has sort of been a little bit behind the president in the most recent polls. some may come from the recent drone attacks and attention to the anniversary of usama bin laden. if you put him in that situation, how do you see him responding? >> very responsibly, very well-informed and always standing with our allies and

recognizing the significance that america plays in the world and willing to take a risk? >> i think of course. martha: price president, big decision that's coming up. have you spoken with your husband about that? >> it is always fun to talk about i will tell you. not like i'm his advisor. martha: are there qualities you would want hill to look for in somebody? i don't expect to tell us who you're rooting for if they're is somebody you're rooting for. are you rooting for anybody? >> i can not do that. i can not come down and say because it is going to be the decision that mitt's going to have to make and he is going to have to make it with a lot of information, withth gathering a lot of names and a lot of people. it is wonderful thing right now, there is terrific people out there that are very qualified. martha: is it important to you that the vice president's wife is somebody that you won't mind hanging out with a lot? >> that would be a plus but i don't think that will be part of the discussion. martha: you've been called the m.i.t. stablizer. and they say sometimes when he is outcome paining and been too many days apart

they know they have to bring you in and that he needs some time with you to find of refocus and rejuvenate. is that true? >> that is true. by the way the boys, my sons are the one named the mitt, the mitt stablizer. martha: what do you do to stablize mitt? >> i don't know. i think both of us enjoy each other's company. we relax each other. also when we get together we recognize what is really important in life and what is really important in life are relationships our friendships and our family. it is such a good reminder. and it takes a lot of stress away when i'm there with him. we're able to talk and laugh a lot about things that are outside political realms. martha: if it doesn't work it you're here in massachusetts, next mother's day what will it mean to you? >> mean we given it our college try of the we gave it our best. we believe the country is going in the wrong direction. we're very positive it needs to be turned in a different direction. i will tell you i believe we

will be in the white house. martha: your husband has assured you he can fix what is wrong? >> i was very bernd about that. i was actually worried there are some problems in this country right now. i was worried even if he did win it would be too late. he assured me it was getting late but it was not too late yet. martha: so in the next hour, mrs. romney talks in a very personal way about learning that she had multiple sclerosis and what her husband's reaction was to that. we'll get her take on former and also current first lady what she thinks about michelle obama and whether she expects to spend next mother's day in the white house. a little more on that. the vice president's spouse could indeed be a man. we don't know whether it will be a man or woman. bill: do you get the sense that they have a true partnership not just in marriage with their family but also a political partnership? >> absolutely. bill: did you pick up on that? martha: irony about whole

thing being said she never worked a die in her life. it is very apparent she has been her husband's partner in many ways in terms of his career and discussions that they have. you know there is no doubt that she is very much an equal partner. bill: interesting to hear her confidence too. martha: i think that is --. bill: almost like she is saying we're going to win. martha: i think she is a confident woman. she knows who she is and who her family is and her husband is and feels very strongly. bill: job well-done. martha: second part next hour. bill: government is on course to exceed a trillion dollars in deficit spending this year and over next four years. how much of your money goes to the interest alone on that debt? bya, because you asked coming up. martha: new revelations about a controversial memo that critics say gives amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants. is the white house trying to go around congress on this? we're going to talk about it. you decide. we'll be right back in "america's newsroom." on my jour,

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bill: this is what some consider a stunning admission on possible white house strategy for dealing with illegal immigration. a democratic congressman, luis gutierrez out of illinois reportedly saying he drafted a memo to the white house explaining how to go around congress and push through back door amnesty for millions of illegals. have a listen here. >> the president of the united states said to me and said to others, i can't get anything legislatively done with congress of the united states. so let's begin to look at avenues that present themselves where we could use administrative --. bill: if true, what does that mean? joe walsh, republican from illinois introduced legislation that relates to this issue. welcome back here.

sits on the oversight and government reform committee. before we get to what you did this week, what do you believe is the agenda here? >> the obama administration bill, i think has been pretty clear that their agenda is amnesty. they promised comprehensive illegal immigration reform when they came into office. clearly the president politically knows that that's not acceptable and we're seeing the same old pattern. when he can't get something done legislatively, he does it by executive fiat. he has done that in other arenas and sure seems like with this latest directive with i.c.e. of last year only apprehend and pull over illegal immigrants who pose a national security risk and ignore all the others, that's amnesty by executive order. and bill, the other troubling thing is --. bill: before you go to the next point. you have what, 11 to 15 illegals in this country,

whatever the figure is? seems like nobody is quite sure. given the man power you have at your despostal would it not seem smart to go after those that would pose a danger to the public? >> well look, federal law requires local law enforcement to work with the feds when picking up illegals and doesn't matter who those illegals are. they're required to enforce this law and by this directive, this president now is ignoring, instructing his department to ignore the vast majority of illegal immigrants, bill, that are i canned up that is going against federal law. bill: there is also a political statement, if you listened to what he said. and that is, that you're not going to get anything through congress so this is your best route. >> yeah. bill: what do you think about that? >> bill, that is just, it is so troubling because he's acknowledging that the american people are against what he is doing because he

won't go through the typical legislative will of the people process. so he is going to try to do it around the will of the people. we've seen him do this when he couldn't get cap-and-trade passed. he then sent his epa out to direct executive order after second testify order trying to get cap-and-trade vis-a-vis the executive department. he is doing the same thing here with immigration policy. and the other troubling thing i was going to mention was, we were told last year when this directive came out that this was, this was advised by and written by i.c.e. professionals. it sure sounds like from congressman gutierrez that outsiders himself and others drafted this directive. this administration has a dangerous habit of farming this stuff out. bill: two things i need to get two quickly. we just talked to gutierrez's office. they tell us this is all old news. is it? >> no, it is not -- go ahead. i mean this is a directive

of last year which has changed the policy of i.c.e. it is not old news. it its current news. bill: you just had a piece of legislation that deals directly with sanctuary cities. those are american cities where it is earth been stated or implied if you are illegal living in that city authorities won't go after you. what does your amendment do on that front? >> again, common sense, bill. it's been federal law for 20 years that local law enforcement is required to communicate with federal officials when they pick up illegals. saying wary cities, by definition don't cooperate. in fact they work against federal law and yet we've continued to give them the resources to enforce these rules. bill: you want to cut off the resources which i assume means money, that right? >> which means money. if they're in defiance of federal law, you've got the entire state of oregon,

which passed legislation prohibiting local law enforcement, prohibiting them from cooperating with the feds. why do we continue to give the state of oregon or the city of san francisco, which is a refuge for illegals, why do we give them the money to enforce these laws? it makes no sense. bill: it passed in the house. we'll see if it has legs on the other side of the hill. >> yeah. bill: joe walsh, thank you for your time out of illinois. >> thank you, bill. bill: to our viewers at home here's the question. foxnews.com, /americasnewsroom. click on. bya box. ask a question about this issue or whatever is your on your mind. or twitter bill hemmer bya because you asked. one coming up in 30 minutes will blow you away on amount of money we're spending every year just to cover the interest on the u.s. debt. it has a lot of zeroes. martha: all right. she has been missing for close to three weeks and now

new details in the exhaustive search for sings-year-old, isabel celis. bill: he was kicked off a cruise for a tweet. he gets hacked and find himself in the hands of the feds. what happens next. we'll wait because we'll talk to him live. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. fohalf the calories plus vgie nutrition. could've had a v8.

bill: police now saying the search for that missing 6-year-old girl has cost more than a million dollars to date. isabel celis is her name. disappeared three weeks ago. she was home in arizona. 30 support staffers are on that case. they are working through numerous leads and tips even today. >> we're still looking at and in excess of a thousand steps our investigators and analysts are pouring through as explained earlier in the

week. that is a very time-consuming and tedious process but we're not giving up on it. bill: a candlelight walk for her will be held today. her parents say she was missing when they went to wake her up on saturday morning. martha: how about this story this week? he was kicked off a carnival cruise after being linked to a fake tweet that threatened a bioterror attack. federal agents quickly, as you could imagine, swarmed onto this cruise ship. they searched the doctor's room trying to figure out if there was any threat coming from him. the doctor told them that he had no idea what they were talking about. hand over his phone. take a look at it. turns out his twitter account had been hacked but he was still asked to leave the ship anyway. dr. jack kruze joins me now. good to have you here. >> thanks. i appreciate it, martha. martha: we laid out sort of the background of the story, what did i will feel like when you got a bang on the door suddenly in your face accusing you of threaten

aing ship? >> i felt like i was on a episode of "24". kind of shocking to see. especially when i had no idea what was going on. martha: did they have guns? what were they like? >> i would say the galveston police were a little bit threatening. since i was in the dark about this i had no clue. one of the officers in particular was not very nice. when the fbi got there the tone of everything, everything changed. he was very, very nice. martha: so, you know, i mean the crazy thing is after they determined, or had they really determined that they felt you were no threat when they asked you to the leave the ship? >> well the fbi and homeland security cleared me but carnival captain on the ship decided it wasn't safe for me to stay on the boat and they asked me to leave within 10 minutes of embarking. martha: you were on the ship. you were asked to come on. you did it as a favor i guess to come on and speak about your diet work as a doctor, right? >> yeah.

i came up with a protocol called cold thermogenesis. i was there to speak to 350 people about this issue. from one of the leaders in the community james jimmy moore. martha: in terms of carnival and their response i think we have part of their statement about why they did what they did and they're expressing sort of erring on the side of caution. said the investigation was on going at the point the ship needed to depart. it was in best interests of all guests and crew to err on the side of caution and not allow them to sail. in some case wan you understand their reaction? god forbid, they see a tweet says there are vials of biological weapons on board their ship, i can understand their inclination want to get you off. >> i do too and if you just put the news on this week, we've heard about bombings in syria and increased terror threats so i completely understand it but i also think that it's so simple to sign up for a twitter account we need to

make federal prosecutor down in houston and also the fbi prosecute people that did this. in couple months i'm getting ready to go to harvard university this could easily happen again. this was too easy to occur. martha: that part is shocking. how do you feel about carnival? have they treated you well in all this? are you okay with them or no? >> my main thing i sent an e-mail to mickey aaronson, ceo explaining what happened to me. my concern was 350 people spent money to come hear me speak. i wanted them to know i was not a bioterrorist. you have to realize when this was all going on there was about 50 to 70 people seeing this go on in my room. and i had no ability to tell them what was going on. martha: so you're concerned obviously. >> i came home --. martha: we've got to go. >> when i came home i had my attorney put a message on my website to try to get that message to the people. but carnival did send a letter to those people and let them no. martha: dr. kruze, thank you very much.

sorry about what happened to you. it is quite aer so. one you will have for the rest of your life i think to tell. good to see you, sir, thanks very much. >> thank you. bill: we'll get a live update on the john edwards trial. major developments on eric holder. 150 democrats standing with republican after this comment from jason chaffetz. >> we'll not allow taxpayers dollars to be use to lie for conference. unfortunately we've been lied to. that is reason we have to do this amendment. it is embarrassing to have to even get to this point. this is delicious okay... is this where we're at now? we just eat whatever tastes good? like these sweet honey clusters... actually there's a half a day's worth of fiber in every ... why stop at cereal? bring on the pork chops and the hot fudge. fantastic. are you done sweetie? yea [ male announcer ] fiber one.

martha: president obama's evolution on same-sex marriage this week turning into a real windfall of campaign contributions. right after the president dropped the big news he headed to a star-studded fund-raiser at george clooney's house, raked in $15 million in donations that night and that's how we start a brand-new hour of "america's

newsroom." glad to have you with us on a friday. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. joe biden apologizing to his boss for jumping the gun on gay marriage. should he have apologized? the white house says the comments forced the president's hands, but the money has been pouring in every since. martha: the campaign raked in more than a million dollars in 90 minutes after that news broke. joined by juan williams, a fox news analyst, good toerpbg t good morning to you juan. should joe biden bend over and apologize i think things worked out okay. >> there is a line of political authority here, and the white house had no intention of making gay marriage, certainly before the contention, but potentially not before the election because it could pol pola rice the

african-american base. there's been so much money pouring in from people who are excited to see the president speak boldly on the issue skwraoeut seems lik. martha: it seems like he makes out well in both scenarios. the money has been coming in, on the other hand it's not a statement that carries any real teeth so to speak. the stance he has taken is very similar to the stance that a lot of prominent leaders have taken and that it should be a state-decided issue. and that's basic we wher basically comes down on it, right? >> you're smart, martha. exactly right. when the president has done is say listen, ivy solved i've evolved. it's up to the states. he's saying it's up to the states although he personally supports gay marriage. that is in line, remember, with just over 50% of the person people. certainly most of young people in the country have no issues

witness, republican or democrat. so what the president has done is he's put himself in the position where he was for ending "don't ask don't tell," he refuses to enforce or have his justice department enforce the defense of marriage act that would make it a ban on any legalization of gay marriage and the result is now, he kind of has it every way this a politician can. he's put himself in a very good position, and the result is so far the romney campaign is reluctant to get involved with this issue because they see it as a looser, while the obama campaign is reaping all the benefits. martha: i haven't really heard your thoughts on this whole issue. and it did get a lot of attention, and it was called a rile, truly historic moment to have the president of the united states come out and say he supports the right of gay people to marry. it's been equated in some ways to the civil rights movement in this country. do you think it bares that kind

of weight? >> i think it is a momentous time in our country when you have the president of the united states put his authority behind the idea that there is no need in any way to limit the rights of gay people. in our country the stigma, the weight is so tremendous, the fear of discrimination, in terms of jobs, in terms of everything from how your parents view you to how your church views you on gay people, so it is momentous. does it have the same weight as race? i think race has a separate and different history in our country. the commonality is big it tre bigotry, and people feeling limited. vice president cheney spoke with this elegantly about this because of the circumstances in his own family. and president obama saying he evolved on the issue, i think he personifies a lot of people who

are coming to terms with this in their live times. martha: the president and dick cheney have the same take on this issue. thank you. bill: mitt romney was asked about this yesterday. he said he always believed that marriage should be between a man and a woman. neil cavuto pressed him on the issue. >> i think the best setting to raise a child is where there is an opportunity for the mom and dad to be in the home. i know there are many circumstances where there is not possible, through death or divorce. i know many gay couples can adopt children, that's fine. i think we should define marriage as between a man and a woman. martha: 38 states currently have a been on gay marriage. and there are laws pending in california, washington state and maryland, six states, and

washington d.c. have made it legal for gay couples to be married. massachusetts, connecticut, iowa, vermont, new hampshire and new york. five other states allow civil unions, delaware, hawaii, illinois, new jersey and rhode island. bill: let's go down to the john edwards trial now. it is in the hands of the defense. after two weeks of dramatic testimony edwards defense team will ask the judge to throw the entire case out. jonathan serrie in greensboro. how likely is that. >> reporter: without the jury in the courtroom edwards defense team is going to present their best arguments to the judge. they contend the prosecution failed to prove that john edwards knowingly used secret donations to hide his mistrust witmistress with the intent of political aspirations not just his family. they say the defense face an uphill battle on this one.

listen. >> these kinds of motions occur regularly in criminal cases. it's to prevent a case from going forward, where there is no jury triable issues, in this one the judge in all likelihood is going to say, see you on monday. >> reporter: monday is when the defense is scheduled to call its first witness to testify. reille hunter is on the list of potential witnesses but she was also on the prosecution's list and was never called. so it's possible the defense won't want to take the risk of calling to the stand someone who according to the testimony in this trial was described as a loose cannon by many close associates of john edwards, bill. bill: before the prosecutors wrapped up their case they detailed some of edwards aspirations politically even after his campaign for the white house folded. what did they hope that did for their case? >> reporter: the prosecution was trying to show that even after john edwards' presidential hopes had crumbled that he still had

political aspirations, and therefore, a reason to use donor money to keep reille hunter in hiding for political reasons. yesterday edwards former senior economic policy adviser testified, quote, we talked about a more elaborate, long-term goal of mr. edwards which was to be a supreme court justice. according to testimony edwards was also looking at the vice president see, and attorney general. bill. bill: thank you. we'll see what the judge decides in greensboro, north carolina. martha: fox news alert now, the white house is saying that al-qaida is capitalizing on the deadly chaos in syria. yesterday bombers rocked the capitol. the deadliest attack in the 14-month up rising. leland vittert is live in jerusalem, why does the white house think al-qaida is attached

to this. >> reporter: it makes it look like an al-qaida effort, number one it was very well planned, good intelligence. new two, highly coordinated, number three a lot of explosives, more than one ton. when you look at the aftermath you see the damage that killed nearly 55 people, injured some 350. bomb one goes off small car bomb that brings people in. bomb two is the bigger suicide car bomb designed to kill more people. what they think is al-qaida is in iraq is now exporting its expertise to a new group making its way around the jihad deweb sites which for lack of a better term seems to be the al-qaida tkeupbd k syndicate taking up arms in syria. they don't know exactly who these guys are or how they will go forward but it certai certainly complicates things. for the longest them we had syrian opposition versus bashar

al-assad has regime, now you have al-qaida trying to mix things up. bill: mitt romney answering questions about something that may have happened 45 years ago. >> there is no question but that i did some stupid things when i was in high school, and obviously if i hurt anyone by virtue of that i would be very sorry for it and apologize for it. bill: "the washington post" is reporting on this incident that mitt romney says he does not remember. what does this story say about what is ahead next in this long campaign, hum? martha: the national debt topping $15 trillion. any idea how much interest we are paying on that? you may be sorry that you asked, but you did, so we're going to tell you, right. bill: too darn high, right? just and order traffic day, moving along when the unthinkable is caught on camera right there.

bill: watch this scene in the middle of a busy intersection. keep an eye now on the dark van. you see something fall to the ground right there? martha: oh, my. bill: that is a four-year-old girl. they are father jumps out, he's driving, luckily he gets to her right before that taxicab stops there. the van ends up hitting a pole. they believe the little girl crawled into the front seat, popped the door open. she seems to be okay. that story out of china. one lucky young lady. martha: the family of mitt romney's alleged target in this high school prank that's been talked about is now speaking out about these accusations. "the washington post" reported that a group of boys held down a boy in his dorm room while mitt romney cut his long, bleached-blond hair, all of this allegedly went down nearly 50 years ago, and the family of the alleged victim has some problems with the accuracy of the story. they have said that the portrayal of john is factually

incorrect, and that we are aggrieved that he would be used to further a political agenda, though they will not say which part ever the story is inaccurate. governor romney for his part says he doesn't remember this incident. >> i had no idea what that individual's sexual orientation might be. going back to the 1960s, that wasn't something that we all discussed or considered. so that's simply just not accurate. i don't recall the incident myself, but i've seen the reports, and i'm not going to argue with that. there is no question but that i did some stupid things when i was in high school, and obviously if i hurt anyone by virtue of that i would be very sorry for it and apologize for it. martha: marriage reclifton is a former consultant to president obama's campaign and we have the publisher of saffe review.com. welcome to both of you. a lot of questions here.

obviously it was brought up, you know, as a character issue, which comes up from time to time in these campaigns. does it matter, should it matter, marriag margerie. >> this happens in ever political question. this is the downside of political campaigning. i feel like, you know, if teenagers ran the white house this would be a relevant conversation, but in the same way the republicans went after obama, did he smoke pot and do drugs when he was in high school or college, we are going after romney for giving a kid a haircut. this is the same thing we see from republicans and democrats every election season, but it's really not relevant. if this was a repeated pattern of behavior this is something to be concerned b. but they are grown ups now and these are the ones who run the white house. martha: the suggestion from this story was this young boy was targeted because they thought he might be gay. that's what mitt romney was

addressing in that sound byte. he said we did not talk about those things and it was not part of any equation in his recollection of any of it. what about the timing on all of this? it comes right after the president comes out and says that he believes that same-sex marriage is okay. justin? >> well you do have to wonder about the timing. and i think it's interesting that it is coming at the same time, that the president announced his change of position on same-sex marriage. but look, this is something that happened 45 years ago, the family its no is now disputing one part of the story, they won't say what part. governor romney doesn't remember it happening. it's a signal and message to republicans that the traditional news media. this was a story that generated from "the washington post." it's a message to republican that the campaign to destroy mitt romney has now begun and republicans should be ready for that. because they are going to throw out owl the stops. it reminds me what dan rat they are did to george w. wurb with

the air national guard story that turned out to be false. martha: what about the point that justin just brought up. this morning eric erickson says it's all a part after campaign to brand mitt romney as a vicious, thoughtless, out of touch guy. does it need into that narrative do you think? >> again, i don't think this is indicative of a particular bent with the media, because we've seen them do this to democrats as well. you've got to look at with obama they accused that he went to a medrazza for high school, they questioned his birth certificate. we've seen this on both sides of the aisle. we saw k-rl rove g karl rove go off people. we hate to see it when democrats go after democrats, and republicans go after republicans. is it relevant in no, because we

don't have teenagers running the white house. martha: did mitt romney do what he needed to do yesterday to say i don't remember, if i did anything to hurt anyone i do apologize? >> i think governor romney did the right thing. i hope we don't hear anything more about it. why is that? because it's really insulting to the problems that we have in this country when almost 25 million americans are unemployed or under employed. our unemployment rate is over 8%. you mentioned earlier that our national debt that our children will have to pay back is over $15 trillion. there is unrest in the middle east. europeans monetary union is in question right now, so with all these problems that we have, those are the issues that i hope we hear about in the coming months of the presidential campaign. martha: thank you very much. good to talk to you both. bill: it is one of the biggest issues we have in america the u.s. drowning inned ink. how much every year is paid just to cover the interest on that number there? bya, because you asked, and

answered coming up. martha: we have more of my interview, my one-on-one with and romney, how her faith made her who she is today. martha: you talked about the struggles that you've been through in your life and faith has been a big part of getting you through those. how do you feel that that has served yous a wife, and as a mother. >> certainly when i was going through my deepest challenges, you of course always want to initially say, oh, no, why me, oh, please, no. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. fohalf the calories plus vgie nutrition. could've had a v8.

you know, you've done it, right? i have. it is officially against the law in one very high traffic town. it's already against the law to message people while you're driving of course, everybody knows that. portly, new jersey is ticketing people for text -gs on the old

shoe leather express. local cops say it is the number one cause of jaywalking and right across the bustling bridge of new york city that is a lot mor dangerous than it sounds. >> when i walk i look around. i'm not constant low looking down all the time. >> it's a big disra traction. they are not watching where they are walking, they are not aware. martha: police handed out a few warnings for the first few weeks, they have written 117 jaywalking tickets. it's a good way to raise revenue, folks. that happened over the last month. bill: you bump into the telephone pole then you learn your lesson. martha: that is one way to solve it. bill: for the first time in nearly four years uncle sam takes in more money than we spent last month. but one month of surplus is not going to do anything to chip away at that number on the debt. the government is on course to exceed a trillion dollars in deficit spending for the fourth straight year. that brings us now to bya, because you asked. by way of twitter today, how

much money per year is paid in interest on the debt? dennis kneale, fox business network with me in the studio. how are you doing. >> reporter: pretty big numbers, bill. $230billion per year we pay in interest on the debt. bill: 230 billion. >> reporter: that is 6% of the federal budget, which seems like, well if i earned a hundred thousand a year and paid only 6,000 a year in interest i could handle that. but here is the big problem. right now interest rates are at the lowest level they've ever been in 40 years. that is because of the fed, the branch of government has been keeping the interest rates low. we just borrow more and more because it's cheaper now than it was 20 years on a smaller number of debt. they say now they need the federal government to loan me

money at a higher interest rate. it soars to 160 billion per year. right now the obama administration says over ten years we'll be paying interest of only 800, 900 billion. that as well as to 2.5 trillion. what if investors say ten year treasury notes are paying me less than 2%. you have to pay me 5%. now it goes up to trillions, upon trillion r-s,. bill: there are a lot of what if's in what you said. over four or five years $230 billion, over that period alone we are adding a trillion dollars. >> reporter: here is the thing, it's not productive spending, it's not spending that a business is putting into a new division that will hire more people. it's just interest rate that goes at a very low rate to people who are not taking that money and investing it and doing anything witness. it sucks money out of what should be going into investments. bill: it's enormous. i it was talking about the

government ran a surplus in april and you think that is a bunch of bunk. >> reporter: it is bunk. every april people are paying their taxes that's why we collected 60 billion more in april than we paid out. it means absolutely nothing. bill: see you at noon with cheryl. noon to one. >> reporter: on fox biz, baby. bill: thank you, dennis. you've got a question you want to answer, hemmer at fox news.com. bya because you asked. martha: calling for accountability on operation fast and furious. >> we have a dead u.s. agent. we have a department of justice that lied to congress. where are the guts in this body to stand up and say, we are not going to put up with that. martha: now we're seeing signs that democrats are signing onto demanding that the whole story be told from the justice department. bill: also, why are police digging up a reputed mobster's backyard, and what did they find?

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that limits funding for doj if it lies to congress on the floor now. >> if we get stonewalling on the other side of the aisle without your support we will do a disservice to this country, we will do a disservice to this body, and we will not get to the truth. bill: congressman david sw i-k er was involved with this. good morning to you. thank you for your time. >> good morning, bill. bill: this relates to fast and furious indirectly but we'll get to that in a moment. why are democrats siding with republicans, 142 of them. >> look, it was a fascinating debate, and you had a bear of jason there who is very articulate on this issue. i think actually you're seeing now members of both part tears whparties that are just tired of the game playing coming from eric holder and the justice department. every other friday you get a document dump and your staff is dugging through it to find out what is the new revealed truth this week. i think we are tired of the game

playing. imagine having to do an amendment that says, justice department, eric holder, you can't use taxpayer money to lie to congress any more. bill: even on the face that sounds ridiculous. >> it is. bill: why would congress have to pass anything to say if you lie to us we are going to cut off your money, that is crazy? >> we do have sort of that world out there with the lawyers of, what is the meaning of is. look, i think we are demonstrating how frustrated we are in the game playing with fast and furious, but also a lot of the other misdirection that seems to be coming from eric holder, this administration, and this justice department, and the fact that 142 democrats stood up with us on the floor of the house and said, we are tired of the justice department, and we want to make it clear they don't use taxpayer money to lie to congress and the american people. bill: even on its face it seems like it's crazy you would have to even do this. >> it is. bill: republicans claim that

eric holder thus far failed to comply with 22 categories of the subpoena that requires him to report to congress, various documents for this investigation, fast and furious. >> uh-huh. bill: 13 of the 22 categories, apparently not a single document has been provided. what do you think the department of justice is concerned with here? >> look, i had a conversation with darrell issa the other evening and he is just livid with the game playing. tell us the truth, tell the american people the taout of the good thingtruth of the good things and the bad things you and your organization have done. come clean. this justice department, whaeugs the number one thing they care about? i believe it's politics and the re-election of this president. bill: are there democrats publicly and actively defending eric holder on this? >> if you go back to the debate there absolutely were, saying,

hey, the justice department -- bill: what about now? >> look, when you get 142 of them who are willing to stand up with the republicans and say, justice department, no more game playing, eric holder tell the truth, and we're actually having to make a statement, you can't lie to us with taxpayer money, isn't that an amazing thing to have to go that far. bill: 41 democrats did not vote with this amendment, however. now -- >> correct. bill: you're from arizona. what does this issue, and what does this story mean to the folks that you represent in that state? >> well for those of us in arizona and many of the other border states we are tired. and i get this from republicans, democrats, independents, we are tired of the justice department suing our state. we are tired of the justice department with games like fast and furious, playing games with it. at some point we feel like we are at war with our own federal government. think of the number of times we've sued my state, and also the fact we keep beating them in the supreme court.

bill: well you come from phoenix, maricopa county, that's where the whole thing started in the phoenix there. thank you. we'll keep in touch with you and your office. >> thank you. martha: to our series energy in america. there are new concerns that the president's push for more natural gas production will hit americans where it hurts most, their wallets. a crackdown on coal and oil companies raising some red flags in all of this. energy prices could, they say, shoot up fast, so what is the reality here? doug mcelway joins us live in washington. doug, the coal industry says they have a preview of what they were in for when then presidential candidate obama was interviewed about all this in 2008. going back to ten, what did he say on this? >> reporter: that's very interesting, interviewed in the san francisco chronical. in that interview he offered a prediction of what would become of the coal industry. the coal industry says it proved remarkably accurate.

listen to the words, the 2008 words of then candidate barack obama, quote. if somebody wants to build a coal powered plant they can, it's just that it will bankrupt them because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that is being emitted. that will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches. >> barack obama made it a pledge when he was running for office a couple of years ago to declare a war on coal, and he's pretty much lived up to that. we have things coming down every day, new rules, new proposed regulations that are shutting down our coal industry. it's our ace in the hole. our nation's competitive edge is being lost. >> reporter: an array of new rules, one that requires old coal fire plants to meet new standards will increase exports of coal to the developing world

where the thirst for abundant cheap energy is growingment that is what they say will put the united states at a disadvantage. martha: the second part of the interview where he says we can invest billions of dollars in energy that was a reference to cap and trade legislation, right? >> reporter: yes, cap and trade legislation died in the last congress. they say the obama administration is legislating through rule making not congress. they are looking at that as a transitional fuel. what is happening in europe is that these alternative energieses are not as self sustaining or profit making as people would like. the only way wind and solar farms are staying in business is by being heavily subsidized by governments. martha: thank you so much. bill: a new twist to an old

case, authorities are digging through the connecticut home of an alleged mobster apartmented of having information about a notorious boston art theft that took place more than 20 years ago. 75-year-old job earth jentile denying all these accusations. again he's 75 now. this is the scene at 1990. this was considered to be the largest unsolved art crime in the world. thieves disguised as boston police officers, they handcuffed the guards and made off with artworks more than half a billion dollars. to this day that crime has not been solved. martha: that was an incredible story. it was an incredible art heist. it's amazing it hasn't been solved. where are all the famous, famous paintings? i'm surprised nobody has made a movie about that. bill: i have an idea, what are you doing this weekend? we'll craft a little script. martha: fascinating story see if the mobster knows anything about

it. bill: or they pick anything up in that yard. martha: she hopes she will be spending next mother's day in the white house as firth lady. more on my exclusive one-on-one a ann romney, her health battles which she goes into personal detail about, her children, and how her husband has been there for her over the years. what was that like between you and your husband when you had those dark moments with that diagnosis, first with multiple shra row su shrer schelosis, and you have five children. it's often frightening for the spouse. it dissolves in any temperature, even cold. tide pods. pop in. stand out.

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bill: 18 minutes before the hour. the first drug to help hiv infection winning support. it is for healthy people who are at high-risk. final decision by the fda expected in mid-june. a dramatic rescue as a man pulls his friend from a motorboat after it bursts into flames.

it's said to be okay. that is in the state of washington. beyonce facing a lawsuit from a game developer, they say she backed out of a $20 million deal called star power beyonce. a judge has given the green light for that trial to go forward. martha: here now is the second part of my talk with ann romney, like most of us she is looking forward to spending mother's day with her family, that includes this year two brand-new twin grandsons. they bring the grand-kid total at the romney household to 18. they will celebrate in year in massachusetts as usual, but where will they be next year? have you thought about the fact that next mother's day you could be spending it at the white house? >> wow, i don't really think that far forward.

but you know that is a months built. martha: what kind of first lady do you think you would be, and what kind of mission would you set for yourself? >> every first lady brings her own personality to the white house. for me, you know, of course it's going to have something to do with the things i care about and the things i love. having had breast cancer i'm sure i'll be involved in breast cancer awareness. having had multiple sclerosis i'll be working trying to promote research. beyond that i also have worked for many years with at risk youth, and so i know i'll never be able to give that up either. martha: when you look back at first ladies, are there any that you particularly admire, and what did you admire about them. >> you think of barbara bush and her frankness, her outspokenness. and yet her just realness. you just loved her. laura bush was so lady like and just wonderful. martha: what do you think about mrs. obama? >> i think she is lovely, and i think, you know, as everyone can

appreciate it is a very difficult position to be in, where your husband is under enormous scrutiny all the time and attacks from one side or the other and yet to be able to keep your calm and to be able to have your composure, we appreciate that and see that in her. martha: you talk about the struggles that you've been through in our life and faith i'm sure has been a big part of getting you through those. how do you feel that has served you as a wife and mother? >> you have a choice when you're hit with something really hard, and you can curl and give up or you can just push and keep going. and for me, for a while i have to tell you it was really difficult, and i felt like doing the first and feeling very sorry for myself, but then you have the resources of the people that you love around you, and giving you encouragement but then you finally learn how to dig really deep and to say, i'm going to get through this. i think it has changed my heart. it has softened my heart. it's made me very concerned

about others that are going through challenges, and know that we'll all have a dark hour in our life. there are people that are suffering right now, they may be losing their mothers or losing a child or a spouse, or they are being diagnosed with cancer. and people right now are going through enormous challenges. and so for me i am grateful that my heart has been hospitalized up and softened, and that i can appreciate and understand when someone is going through a challenge, what it feels like. martha: what was that like between you and your husband when you had those dark moments with that diagnosis, first multiple sclerosis and you have five children to take care of. it's often very frightening for the spouse. >> it was hard for mitt. i think it's always harder sometimes for the person watching than the person going through it. it was hard for me too, i will tell you. we have an identity. my identity was mother, accomplished, doing many things, taking care of everybody, and all of a sudden i continue even

take care of myself. it's like a rug being pulled out from underneath you. and then what are you left with? and you really then have to evaluate, who am i, and who am i really, and for mitt, that's where he gave me the greatest strength, because he was the one reminding me that it wasn't what i did, why he loved me, it was who i was was how much he loved me and cared for me and not to worry about those things, and not to think that life wasn't going to be still rich without doing all of thoets things. those things. for me having my husband give me that perspective when i was losing that per spec tiff and a little frightened and feeling very overwhelmed, it was wonderful to have him there. martha: it's such -- it gives you some insight into how difficult this process is. you need to have a couple who really wants to do this.

and there is a lot said about why people don't run for office in this country because of the kind of scrutiny you're understand. i find it fascinating no matter who is involved in the process what these couples go through, what it's like for them, and the kind of commit many that they have to have to it, because it's not easy. she said to me, i'm just steeling myself for the next six months. they know it's going to be an intense six-month of travel, she has had her health khal hedges challenges. she seems to be in great shape and energetic. bill: this is just the beginning of the process. and she appears to be the same person on camera that she is in real life. martha: i think that's true. bill: sometimes the camera can change a person. do you think that did or no? martha: i think she is a very confident woman and knows who she is. you do get what you get on camera, and in a personal way too. but, you know, she said she doesn't think people are paying close attention until probably september, october, in some

cases, which i think may be true. they are being introduced to the country but this is their second time around. now they've got even to a level where they haven't been before. it's a different experience for them to be in a head-to-head. pretty interesting. bill: job well done. happy mother's day to all the moms out there. martha: absolutely. bill: how an entire nation could go extinct and how that could be reversed. we'll tell you where that is happening, and this -- martha: no radar in the world would have picked this up. hazy, hot and humid with a chance of royal showers. you must stick around to see this video, folks. if you think you're seeing things, you're not. we'll be right back. ♪ spread a little love today ♪ ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ [ female announcer ] fresh milk and real cream makes philadelphia and the moment a little richer.

cloudy skies with a slight chance of royal rain, watch. >> there will be snow for the higher ground of the highlands. the potential for a few flurries over bell moro, who the hell wrote this script, as the afternoon goes on. martha: nobody wanted to hear a gloomy outlook across the pond. the prince dropped into a station in glass could he to mark the 16th anniversary. after trouble with the clicker, the changes of the map he settled in and did quite well. the wife camilla was not quite as smooth under those bright lights but charles carried the ball for both of them. weatherman all around, right? a frightening prediction that an entire nation could go the way of the dinosaurs. japanese researchers saying decades of declining birth rates could cause their own people to become theoretically extinct.

david piper is live in the region. >> reporter: hi, mart that. yes it's a bit of a doomsday scenario. basically these see searchers in s sendai, a city devastated by the tsunami, they looked at the numbers and they said in the millennium time in the numbers don't change there will be no japanese people left. the last baby will be born in 3013. sear just consequences for japan and it's having an impact already with a falling birth rate. one company says they are selling more adult diapers than baby diapers now. serious consequences according to some people because they suggest that japan will perhaps spend more money on healthcare than on defense in the future which could have implications for the u.s. alliance, martha. martha: that is fascinating, david. one can sort of figure out what the problem is, but what are they saying? why are they saying this is happening? >> reporter: it's a complicated problem. there are many reasons out there. perhaps the main reason seems

that the japanese people, the young people have fallen out of love, something like 60% of japanese men under 60 were surveyed, and they didn't even have a girlfriend. and a lot of young japanese women seem to be according to other surveys not interested in sex, so they need to change that. they are pumping money at families to have children, but at this time unless they change it dramatically the japanese population will be cut by about a third in about 50 years time, martha. martha: you'll have to rush a big shipment of oysters to japan i think. anything they can think of. david, thank you very much. david piper joining us with that really interesting story. so, your odds of winning the lottery are ridiculously low. how did an arizona man win it six times in one drawing? his interesting strategy and whether or not you might be able to make it work for you. right back in "america's newsroom."

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winner hit it rich half a dozen types over the winner who is choosing to remain none moist. he doesn't want anybody horning in ons withing. six tickets with identical numbers. total $6 million. that is unbelievable. power pal officials say the method may be a growing trend, but winning comes down to the luck of the draw, folks. "happening now" will get started in a moment. sign off for me and bill hemmer running to catch a plane to work on a story. thanks for being with us. happy mother's day to my mom. happy mother's day to bill's mom. see you back here on monday. "happening now" starts right now. jenna: opinion polls although the economy is the most important issue this election season. now a comment by the president about the recession is raising some eyebrows and igniting a whole new debate. we're going to tell you what he said and get karl rove's take just ahead. jon: jpmorgan chase, considered solid as a rock as other banks c