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romney was never involved in the proposal and he repeedateed right away, but some want to take him down for it anyway. >> do republicans really want to start talking about religious influence on candidates? do they really want to us talk about mitt romney whose religious group has been one of the most racially segregated in the history of this country? and until the late 1970s, african-americans couldn't be ordained. >> if the g.o.p. wants to do that, guess what? you are putting mormonism on the table. you are putting on the table how african-americans were treated by the mormon religio religion. i don't think romney wants that conversation considering he was an elder and his dad was an elder. >> dana: isn't it interesting that romney's faith is able to be in question but any question of president obama past relation
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with who he calls his mental and spiritual advisor is off-limits. i'm curious that one of the people brought up mormonism. >> andrea: right. cureosly, the three people that watch martin beshaer's show a month before got to see him go on a rant about mormonmism. saying he could either keep lying and win the white house and bring eterm damnation or tell the truth. he is holding up the book of mormon. >> greg: keep doing that. i found that arousing. >> andrea: we'll get fan mail from england saying i have a terrible accent. imagine if someone held up the quran. he is saying that romney is lying. we can't say the word liar or say that barack obama is lying. a huge double standard. romney kate out yesterday and he said i don't want to make reverend wright an issue. by still by saying what they
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were saying do they want to make an issue of x, y, z? they are already talking about it. >> dana: a big question of why he should. some people on the right says mccain was crazy to take it off the table. last night, our own charles krauthammer talked about what his opinion is. take a listen. >> to be completely legitimat legitimate, but romney is wise not to do it. there is an appalling double standard here. it's okay for the "washington post" to run 5,000 word front page story on a prank that romney at the age of 15 committed and yet it somehow illegitimates, low road or whatever for people to bring up the fact that the adult obama had a 20-year relationship with a racist, anti-american, preacher. whom he considered, spoke about as his mentor and spiritual advisor. that is a double standard unlike any i've seen. >> dana: eric, i want to go to you. you had a thought about this
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that the democrats are looking for any distraction they can get and romney is smart to just focus on the economy. >> eric: let the superpacs deal with this. this is relevant. it outlines president obama, the man who spent 20 years with the reverend wright. who is of questionable character. what romney should do, i built a scoreboard. romney should stay on obam obamanomics. epic fail. $3 trillion in spending next year. the spend is not going down. it's going up. this 22.5 million people are unemployed or underemployed. if you are playing a baseball game or football game. football game, a quarterback makes a great play. -- the cornerback makes a great play. >> dana: what is a corner back. >> eric: defensive player. >> dana: i'm kidding. >> he jumps up and gives his
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bud day high-five and they do a victory dance but they don't realize they're still down by 30 points. look at the scoreboard. obama has a scoreboard. losing on the scoreboard. >> dana: bring in leslie, glad to have you here today, replacing bob to give us a break from bob. >> putting the white space in front of my face >> dana: he has learned. he got that down now. what is said years ago in a church might not be as relevant now as what president obama said and in the record he has to run on now. from a democratic perspective, what would they rather fight on? wright or the economy? >> a lot of people will say i can't believe you're saying this. i agree with romney. i'll tell you why. romney wants to win a presidency. not a popularity contest. he wants to win the presidency. the people that vote the president, 15%. swing voters who care about
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what eric is talking about, the economy. they don't care about jeremiah wright. he was already brought up. if you open up the doorway to religion, who questioned his religion then you have to talk about it -- >> andrea: obama said it himself. he talked awe how he grew up in indonesia. >> dana: no matter how often you see the replay of the sermon it's still shocking. >> greg: this isn't about religion. it's a bribe. in the equiv lensy of morgannism to wright is bogus. more non-s don't tell you to hate america. wright did. but it bothers me how the media is dictating what is on or off the table. i need a guy, so i decided to come up with a guy from the media. from the mass media of things you can attack obama on.
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these are the things you can attack obama on. the first one is -- care something much about his family, he's often seen in quieter moments looking lovingly at their photographs. that is an outrage! the other one, his i.q. is so high it must be a burden to constantly be weighed down with the sobering thoughts about the way of the world. monster. the next is it's fairness and constant it must be hard for him to root for an opposing team at a sporting event. lastly, his rock abs. being in great shape takes constant discipline which mug wear him down in times. the media is telling us. republicans focus on that, we might have a chance. >> dana: what about what is on the table, what is not on the menu in >> i had to get that in there. >> andrea: can we go after him for mom jeans?
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>> greg: they're comfortable. it's an outrage. why call them mom? call them career women jeans. >> dana: put your campaign hat back on. every morning you could wake up on the republican or the democrat side and see something thatbe superpac is proposing. you can call on the other campaign to repudiate the comments. mitt romney did that right away on the merits. when it comes to bill maher who has a superpack and giving $1 million to obama, he says something outrageous and the democratic escuse for him is he is a comedian. >> eric: a double edge sword. >> andrea: i equate superpacs and surrogates, people who are associated with the campaign. to me it's the same. if i'm the press secretary. i remember we didn't have superpacs back then. there were people associated with the campaign. when they would say things,
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which they do. they talk to the media. a surrogate talking about reverend right. it causes heartburn for the campaign and it would for romney if someone did that. it will drown out the message that is on the board. the left is going to overreach on mormonism. the right overreaches sometimes but the left does it so meanly. they will keep doing it. it exposes them. they did it with palin and megawhitman and mormonism. anyone with any religious beliefs in the country will bristle in this and it be l backfire. >> i disagree. most of us on the left don't care what religion the president is. to be honest. even republicans that romney has support on, it's the evangelical community questions mormonism as being part of christianity. >> andrea: the 15% you mentioned if the left go too hard negative and go after the
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mormonmism, i think anyone with any religious belief will see this as affront to religion. >> eric: why are we talking about this? ethis is two bow sews who could be -- bozoo who could be confused with milli vanilll with the credittism. they're the only two bringing this up. i don't hear anyone else. the left leaning. you hear these idiots. but no one else. certainly not anyone politically left. >> dana: a lot of conventional wisdom that says the far right evangelicals won't vote for romney because of that. there is no evidence to show that. there is very few persuadable neem the country. now know right now if you vote for obama or if you are going to vote for romney. 15% of people that might be persuadable won't be swayed by this either way. >> eric: i don't think jeremiah wright.
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>> political discussion that one time seemed personal, came to take on the african cultural affairs in harlem or brooklyn in the summers, a few diverses new york had to offer like going to foreign film or ice skating at the rockefeller center. >> andrea: hand mity crew -- hannity took to the street to see how they feel about president attending socialism gathering. >> concerning. >> how do you feel about the president hanging out with marxist as a young man? >> i hung out with bad people so it's not bad as long as he doesn't hang out with them today. >> i do not pes spect that. >> i do not agree with that. >> wow! >> that doesn't make sense. why hang out with marxist. >> andrea: if you call them socialist ode, liberals heads blow off.
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the reason hannity is doing this, the president wasn't vetted in 2008. do you agree in we didn't get a look at who he was. a lot of members of the media didn't read "dreams of my father." >> are you saying we have to read a book he wrote prior to 1995 when - published to know who we're voting for? what happened to personal responsibility as voters. we have a responseability to inform ourselves then as now. most people made up their minds. the small forward that hasn't don't care what he did in college. or romney did. >> a lot of people are like -- maybe people are educated. >> andrea: listen to the sound from obama that people may or may not know about his past drug use. >> i spent the last two years of high school in a daze. locking away the questions from life system unfolding. i kept playing basketball. attended classes sparingly, drank beer heavily and tried drugs enthusiastically. i discovered it didn't make
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any difference whether you smoked reefer in the doom room with a brother you met at the gym. or on the beach with a couple of hawaiian kids who dropped out of school and spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl. >> buy us in basketball part i thought it was bob beckel. >> greg: we had a great time back then. we had a gas. i'm with you. i don't care. what you do in high school. or college. it would be a complete hypocrite. it would be a hypocrite until age 40 if i condemned what he said. >> age 40? >> so you won't be running for public office. >> never. guest it's not about me or obama or romney. it's how the media looks at these things. if sharpest distinction, look at sarah palin's e-mails. the "washington post," the guardian, "new york times," crowd sourced those e-mails to their readers to find dirt on sarah palin. these are the people that did
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not read obama's book. it doesn't mean anything until you compare it to something else. then you should have changed the name to "i bet you won't read this, jerk." it's true. >> greg: a double standard. look at george bush and how he was treated, outrage over his drug use was a big issue. this is fair. you are a different person when you're 16 and 41. obama is different, george bush is different, bob beckel is different -- bob beckel is not different. is it fair? >> eric: of course it's fair. he wasn't vetted the first time. i'll stay consistent. in the last block i said it should be up to the superpacs to do the vetting. this is a good opportunity for superpacs to say this is what we missed the first time around. this may explain why the guy who is the executive order 122 times in 3-1/2 years. why he is aggressive the nlrb, epa, department of justice.
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redistribute the wealth. healthcare. socialist agenda. maybe there are things in his past a if you listen to sound bites you see inkling of socialism. fairness, class warfare. they spring up throughout. why not? >> andrea: was this a p.r. trick by the president to write the book? so he could inoculate himself with anything. he could run and say i already talked about it, it's in the book. >> dana: i don't know for sure but i think not. i think he needed to write this about his father. he was gaining in popularity. i don't know that he knew he would run for president. it came more suddenly. i want to say one thing. president bush opens up his book decision about on his 40th birthday. where he decided to never drink again. if you look at the sound bite about president obama and how
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the road he was going down in high school, this is commendable to think he turned himself around. he is the president of the united states, married with two girls. february we disagree with his policies he could have gone down a different road. we may never have heard of barack obama if he didn't make a better decision how to spend his life. >> andrea: he goes on -- >> er victim not buying that. >> greg: i agree with you. but i also do, i kind of see both sides. you do get the sense of the faculty lounge mentality infesting the government. we talked about the military industrial complex now. it's education complex. we're run by people who are teachers and academics with left wing ideas. but he is admitting to this stuff. whether he knew it or not it was a good inaugust wation.
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>> eric: don't most people quit doing drugs at a certain age? >> dana: remember, they held -- >> c'mon. we are saying we done want to hear about mitt romney and bullying. i don't want to hear about former president bush and drinking. >> it helps you understand their decision-making. people didn't buy "dreams of my father" until the democratic convention. then they bought it. they didn't read it. they put it on the shelf to look cool in the dorm room. >> i read it. >> andrea: if you read it, i believe in the biblical principle to know the son you need to know the father. i encourage over the read this book. there is so much more we didn't get to. will tell you who obama is. >> eric: was he uncomfortable reading this? >> no. >> eric: no? >> all right. >> andrea: we have to go. tune in hannity tonight at 9:00 eastern. it had to go. on the president's own words.
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ones for all sort of stuff. advocacy groups love it. when they want something, they firmly believe you should pay for "it." take advice from u.n. on human rights is like asking dana to grab something from a high shelf. it's not possible. she is short. it plays well for people who love the noble rhetoric but can't balance a checkbook, meaning the celebrities. celebrities love the ideas as lop as they aren't afacted by them. show up will smith who showed up on french tv talking taxes. last week he said he supported the buffett rule and taxing the rich more. eventhe has limits after hea hearing that france's new president might raise the rate to 75%. watch.
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>> that's different. 75. god bless america. >> greg: that was painful. celebrity having epiphany on live tv. you don't see it often. a young man looking at his first pay stub and seeing the government bite. most think they make so much money it doesn't matter so robin hood is their hero. as long as he only robs from you. i know you're a fan of him. >> andrea: oh, yes. >> greg: isn't he adorable? will smith. it's neat how he discovers that the world is different? >> andrea: yes. i would love to encourage will smith to live in paris, france, as i did so i can make fun of frenchies because i speak french. that was funny when he
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realized the number 75. he could haven't be will smith in france. there are french celebrities but the crpees are great. but the taxes are not great there. the job market not great in france. healthcare in france, not great. he could not have gone from the fresh prince of bel air to where he is now. >> greg: he admits that. i don't think the government owes the gratitude. >> i am very confused. i know i'm sitting in for bob. i look outside and see new york around me. are we in france? are we suggesting we have 75% tax? no. we are in the united states. >> andrea: pretty close. >> i live in los angeles. california is tough. he is talking about 30%. 30% in the united states.
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not 75%ment talking about how great the nation is. we're not proposing what france is proposing. >> what are they proposing? >> eric: they are trying to propose 30%. trying to raise the capital gain tax. we're trying to become close to socialist france as possible. it's not working in europe. the reason they talk about 75% is the socialist just elected the president of france. so let's do more of what is not working. we're trying to emulate that; raise taxes, redistribute wealth. why are we doing that? look at california. california is practically france. am i kidding? am i wrong? >> eric: we out lawed fois
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gras. >> dana: people are trying to leave france to live in u.k. because tax burden is not as bad. >> greg: that is going to england to get your teeth fixed. >> dana: which you did. talk about the robin hood thing. g-8 meeting today. this is evolution, something they tried in the 1990s and the first part of the new century. they wanted the rich countries to pay for climate change harm to the smaller countries. when that fell apart, now they're going to go after the banks. see, whatever it is, whatever the going thing is what they glob on to. they won't get it. when they wanted the global aids fund, president bush waited six months. did any country put money in not until he did. >> the number it raids is 1.5 half of the transaction. it's $1 billion a year born,
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good percentage by americans and trading partners. >> dana: to pay for what? i support foreign aid. i support private sector evidents as well. a loft the money is mismanaged and it just goes if dictator's -- >> andrea: it's like that in the new york state called stock transfer tax. they collect it but they rebate it. if they didn't people would leave like in france. not enough millionaires in france for them to tax. what does that say? not enough rich people. >> when you talk about less than half of 1% for wall street, there are people on the left and the right who are opposed to the bail-out, sorry. it's pay-back. the banks can afford that. >> dana: to pay for what? that is the problem. what do you get for that money? that is where people are rejecting. they might be willing to pay for more if there is reform but there is not. you get solyndra and others. >> greg: on that note.
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and it hit me like a ton of bricks. it called him over and showed him the facebook campus. beautiful offices. courtyard where facebook people meet, eat, greet and on and on. hardwork but fun and important things happening out there. then i reminded him about the occupiers, the tents, the dirty trash parks the fights and the drugsism told him, look, buddy, you can go either of two ways. be young, cool and successful like hipsters at facebook, google or apple or be young cool and broke like the slime in the parks. the choice is yours? but, you know, both are cool. in their own way. but what huge diversity. >> greg: you have an interesting morning at the bolling house. that is deep. i get up and i make coffee, i'm in my underwear. >> andrea: it's noon. >> greg: there is something in my eye.
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i stink. imagine if government ran facebook. i love seeing them get rich. not off the government but off their own initiative. it's a good comparison. not everybody becomes a millionaire but damn, try. >> eric: you don't see the occupying ipos. >> andrea: a different culture out there. look at the lesson you were teaching your son. you have an idea. you take a risk. you work really hard. it pays off. think about what a huge windfall this is for california. created 1,000 millionaires. the money will flow in. you don't talk about raising taxes. this excellent lesson. >> eric: you spent time in menlo park. it's pretty good if people buy $20,000 bicycle. it makes the economy work. >> i like putting back in the
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economy. but i have to tell you as a liberal, $20,000 bicycle. why can't you tell your kid you can be cool, you can be hip. you can be angry if you can't get to the 1% as part of the 99%. whether you occupy wall street in the park or not. take that 20 grand and help to put out a scholarship. take that 20,000 and feed how many kids in the united states that are hungry every night. freddie or build a bomb and blow up a bridge. >> andrea: mark zuckerberg gave $100 million -- >> dana: these are general people. they are doing a lot. some of them, they will own restaurants and one of the things they will do is pay the people well. one thing they shouldn't do -- >> greg: they shouldn't skip tips. people who skip tips from waiters and waitresses are wrong; mike mario bitarli. >> dana: i am for it. the more people who have enough money to buy stuff and $20,000 bike, somebody had to
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build the bike. somebody had to deliver the bike. somebody had to design the bike. it's all good. i'm happy for them. >> eric: a great story. >> andrea: this is a very -- facebook is highly unregulate unregulated. >> dana: now. >> andrea: right. get the government out of the way -- right, now. but yeah, compared to other industries that are covering and choked by regulation. look what they can do if the government gets out of the way. >> dana: they donate to superpacs i hope to protect their own -- >> he liked barack obama on the facebook. >> dana: he probably liked president bush, too. >> but i don't think he's running. >> eric: and come on and take a look. first thing out of his mouth. what is that all about, dad? no. there is something interesting here. when you look at the pictures -- anyway, if you look at pictures you realize there are two paths to go. 13 years old maybe that is the
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time to start thinking about it. he did. he kind of took note of it. >> andrea: new show. lessons between a father -- >> dana: but you are teaching him to take a chance in america and take a risk. might be in the dorm room to come up with a way people communicate all over the world. that is great. but oil will be around for a long time so they should go into engineering and refining. >> eric: last word? leslie. a comment? >> i look, i think the entrepreneurship is incredible. this guy was brilliant. he did a great thing. but i still think that what kind of message are we sending to the kids to buy $20,000 bicycles? i do like the jobs and the -- -- >> dana: everybody in hollywood -- >> andrea: obama spent $500 on ugly sneakers. >> greg: i'd buy a bike made
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of fagerge eggs. >> eric: please like our facebook page. go to facebook.com/thefivefnc. >> greg: great. give them more money. >> eric: exactly. it own stock. it will be all right. coming up, fellows at fock and friends get down and dirty to support wounded warriors this morning. i went something like this. >> there are parts of me that are so cold right now i didn't know i had them. >> maybe we'll find out those parts. >> eric: more of that. later. after the break. coming up. ♪ ♪
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>> go! >> they have the tough competitions all over the country. brian, modify it. under the wall. finally. >> get your hats off -- >> finally. oh, my goodness. >> oh! >> keep your head down, steve. ♪ ♪ >> he is doing it. >> jump in a tub of ice water. >> then he has to swim. underneath. >> no, no, no. you've got to go underneath. the hard part is almost over. except for electric shock. >> how hard was that for you? >> so hard! >> i must admit when they told me i'd read the tough mother. i'm in new york and i think it's a mother -- anyway, you are a tough broad. you were e-mailing and talking
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in the meeting a you were at the gym. is this something you'd get down and dirty for? >> thank you, leslie, i think. >> i called you a tough broad. >> i think i'd rather be called a mother than a broad. >> me, too. >> bob beckel would have called her the same thing. >> you are becoming beckel in that chair. i watched this and i love the wounded warriors a lot but i think i'd opt for the bake sale. aim in to physical fitness. that wasn't pretty. i give them fed for doing itism would haven't done it. >> these are held all over the country. get a team and play for -- compete for a charity. i'm going to nominate greg to do it next time. >> how weird that the young guy doing the mic and the older guy doing exercise. that seems wrong. the only obstacle course i do
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is times square at 3:00 a.m. stumbling home. >> you were in the gym in morning. you're buff. >> you wouldn't especially do the arctic e enema. >> i have done that but it had nothing to do with this. >> eric: bring this back. wounded warriors. all warriors who are wounded and help each other over the wall and through the mud and through the water. very, very influential and important person works here walked by there and said that is why america is great. he saw that. i agree with him 100%. >> that is very good. don't go away, on that note. one more thing is up next. what makes the sleep number store different? you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you.
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♪ ♪ >> dana: all right. time for one more thing. since we missed you, you didn't do one earlier this week so we let you make up for it and go first. >> greg: thank you, marsha. time for my banned word. my banned word, banned phrase. "fact of the matter." we often hear the president say this a lot. i want to show you why you don't need it. i'll read two sentences. the first sentence, the fact of the matter is chef mario batali lived on food stamps
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for a week as a publicity stunt. now i read hit the way. chef mario lived op food stamps for a week as publicity week after paying out millions for skipping tips from the employees. see fact of the matter, you don't need and that you still have the truth. >> dana: let it go. >> greg: yeah. >> dana: you have been helpful in helping people learn what not to say. >> greg: that is why i'm here. >> dana: andrea? >> andrea: former bassist of motley crew who was in the band that has the song "dr. fieldgood" isn't feeling good about president obama anymore. he tweeted having lindsay at the party and failing the economy i used to believe in him but now time for a change. that is nikki six. i am a fan of hair bands about i love you even more. >> dana: if you lose nikki six -- >> eric: it's true. >> andrea: deaf leonard is next. watch out! >> eric: every time we do
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the segments, pull up a video, call up a video or a picture, a producer has to produce that. i have been working with mina, fantastic. there she is. the hardest working producer in the building. there is a shot of her. i love you. you are fantastic. >> andrea: she's greek. >> eric: she is awesome. >> greg: way to insult other producers. >> eric: they're all good. >> dana: mine, we do miss our beloved bob beckel as i called him earlier in week. he mentioned something the other day and it would be good for everybody to know this. because i did research. i looked it up. mitt romney is a wealthy man. he is worth about $230 million. a lot of people suggest he got his money from his dad. when he got his inheritance he gave it to the byu, brigham young university marriott school of management, the institute of public management there. so while -- i'm not saying he didn't have privileges growing
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up but he didn't use the fortune to make more of a fortune. makes sense? >> eric: completely. bob mentioned his father gave him the money. >> dana: but romney gave the money away, which is admirable. >> andrea: some one call the beckel institute. >> greg: on friday. >> eric: built-in answer. he got it in the beckel almanac. which is 5% accurate. >> greg said they're closed on fridays. >> andrea: and monday and tuesdays. >> dana: until noon every day. leslie? >> i am honored be sitting here for bob. bob, if you're watching, i have a message. you're in vegas. i want you to know when you are at the blackjack table if it's 14 or higher you stay, buddy. okay? stay. don't let them hit you. >> greg: you are talking about the cards, right? [ laughter ] >> what happens in vegas stays in vegas. we know, bob. >> andrea: what happens in vegas will be on "the five"
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monday. >> dana: i'm embarrassed. i missed that joke. i'm sure it was inappropriate. >> greg: it depends how you look at it. talking about the age of the scotch for gosh sake. you are disgusting. >> dana: this is it for "the five." thank you for being here. have a great weekend, everyone. see you monday. ♪ welcome to "red eye." i'm greg gutfeld, or as i am known in dubai, paula abdul. what is coming up on tonight's show? >> in the north sky time flies faster than morning, america. our top story, facebook has its ipo. i don't know what that means, but stick around and let's find out together. and are a man and woman about to spend time in a
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