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is, when you have the kind of leaks that had been coming out in the last few weeks, it put lives in danger and it infringes upon the ability of the intelligence community to do their job. >>it not just an isolated incident, and that's what has brought us together. it seems to be a pattern that is growing worse and more frequent, and the severity of the leaks are serious. >> it puts us at risk. it puts lives at risk. it hurts our ability with our allies to get -- have them work with us and get information. >> when people say they don't want to work with the united states because they can't trust us to keep a secret, that's serious. when allies become concerned, when an asset's life is in jeopardy or the asset's family's life is in jeopardy, that's a problem. mig late yesterday the white house refused requests to appoint a special prosecutor to look into these leaks, and this morning, president
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obama was not happy with claims that the white house may have deliberately leaked classified information for political gain. >> the notion that my white house would purposely release classified national security information is offensive. it's wrong, and you know, people i think need to have a better sense of how i approach this office and how the people around me here approach this office. megyn: chris stierwalt is our fox news digital politics editor and host of power play on foxnews.com. chris, this is a serious matter when you've gotby partisan complaints coming now about the number of leaks and i want to be clear that those lawmakers who came together yesterday were not saying and the president is behind them and the administration is behind
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them. they said and we need to know exactly who is behind them. and why. although there have been allegations from the gop side that some republicans, including john mccain and lindsey graham and others think it's obvious who's doing it, they think it's the administration and they think the president is benefiting politically for us. put it in perspective for us. >> you're an attorney, so who benefits is the question we ask in politics, who benefits from the leak, and in the case of all these leaks, the beneficiary is president obama, and in each of these stories, especially the two in the "new york times" about the virus against iran and about the kill list where the president is cast as sort of this solemic judge are he weighs the good and bad and kills the bad guy, in this case the president is always benefited by this story, so senator mccain and graham and others are saying it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where this stuff is coming
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from. what i take away from what the president said megyn is he laid down a big marker. he said absolutely, absolutely not. that is, the kind of bold, declarative statement presidents don't make all the time. usually they hedge, we're going to investigate, we're going to see what's going on. he went for the whole magillah and said absolutely not. megyn: yet they won't appoint a special prosecutor and that's going to lead to all sorts of questions about why not. dianne feinstein, a democrat was asked about that yesterday at that press conference and she said look, those take years. what we need is a law cracking down on leakers to really scare them into not doing it. they also would like to get to the bottom of who did it. but you tell me whether the president, if he's that sure that it's not coming from his administration, what is the downside of appointing a special prosecutor? >> well, remember that the special prosecutor that ended up with the monica lewinsky deal against president obama clinton had started out -- the whole prosets started out over a land deal in arkansas. the thing that the president
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doesn't want is, once created, a special prosecutor is a hard thing to get rid of and they keep digging and digging until they get somewhere. with president bush it was scooter libby on the val lee plame case. have been skwr*pily they like to come up with a scalp and the president doesn't want somebody running within, with the fast and furious and things like that and you come up with something. megyn: under the cia, under president bush there were leaks believed to have been coming from the cia and the narrative emerged that a lot of folks in the intelligence community leaned left and were not fans of president bush and now we have reports that perhaps some of this information came from the cia, that may have been looking to take a victory lap for itself. this is speculation. or, tout the accomplishments of a president perhaps they do support. >> and that's -- it's a theory that certainly is gaining adherence, especially because this may be a situation, one possibility is that no, the white house wasn't directly involved, but sympathetic folks in agencies beyond the
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walls of the white house are wanted to try to do favors for the president in a reelection year. the biggest problem for the president, though, is what he did as it related to the bin laden raid and the anniversary of the killing of usama bin laden, because what happens for the president is it's hard for him to stand up and say this is outrageous, this would never happen, given what we already publicly know about the broad release of informs and how much the president, whether it's having nbc news in the situation room, working with documentary filmmakers -- or with a filmmaker on the seal movie, all of that stuff, we already know that the president did that stuff as it related to the usama bin laden raid. now when he says we would never, ever, ever leak a story that would be favorable to us, it makes -- it's strangeo it strains the credibility of it. megyn: yet he's always been very aggressive in going after leakers. prior to this point in his administration. which may help or hurt him in this sideways, chris, given the fact that now he does not want to appoint a
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special prosecutor but he does have a history of going after leaks. >> well, this administration has been remarkably tight-lipped in some ways but loose-lipped in others. so you have to die -- dichotomy where the amount of access that "the new york times" has gained on these stories was obviously pretty huge. especially on that kill list, where, you know, who was in the room and when the president is doing these things -- there's only a certain number of people who can northbound that room. so what's going on there is pretty significant. but you're right, that stands in juxtaposition with the tightness of the lips of the administration. megyn: i want to ask you quickly, the president says it absolutely didn't come from his administration. can he know that chris? can he know that? >> that's why presidents usually don't say stuff like that. megyn: it's a big administration! it's tough! crist stierwalt, thank you. >> you bet. megyn: today the majority of the news conference that was held was focused on the european economic crisis as republicans accuse president
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obama for blaming events in europe for what they call the failure of his policy as at home. a web ad entitled "head winds" -- >> those two things are head winds in terms of -- we've got head winds. >> there will continue to be head winds. >> just like this time last year, facing serious head winds. >> our economy has been facing serious head winds. megyn: doug mckelway is live at the white house with news on the economy. >> it's been clear the one crisis that has the potential to do the most harm to the s*uts economy right now and the potential to do the most harm to the president's prospects for reelection is the one crisis that the president has the littlest control over. we're talking about the eurozone debt crisis. in repeated comments during today -pts press conference the president demonstrated the u.s.' relative impotence in this matter with comments like we're in constant contact, we're trying to be supportive but when all is said and done, the ball is
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in europe's court. here's the president: >> ultimately they're going to have to make a lot of these decisions, so what we can do is to prod, advise, suggest, but ultimately, they're going to have to make these decisions. >> reporter: there's even a question, though, whether the european union wants the advice of the united states, a country which is deeply divided over the same austerity measures that europe appears to be rejecting, a country which a almost as deeply in debt as some of the most troubled of the countries in the european union. there's one other interesting point i should mention from this morning's press conference. listen to what the president said about the private sector in the united states. here he is: >> the private sector is doing fine. where we're seeing weakness is in our economy -- in our economy have to do with state and local government. >> reporter: speaking from council bluffses, iowa, the presumptive nominee mitt romney was quick to pounds on that remark. here he is: >> he said the private sector is doing fine.
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is he really that out of touch? i think he's defining what it means to be detached and out of touch with the american people. >> reporter: while the president pointed out that the private sector has created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months, romney points out that 23 million americans are out of work, and that the median income in the united states has dropped by 10 percent over the last four years. ensap claiting those two comments in the last two hours, a perfect symbol, a perfect capsule of what this campaign will be about. megyn: we'll hear more about that comment coming up, going forward in this campaign. doug, thank you. well also coming from this morning's news conference questions today about the news conference itself. only three reporters were called on. roughly eight questions were asked in total. two of them, on intel, six on europe. >> you think european leaders have a handle on what's needed? >> i'd like to know if you agree with former president
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bill clinton who said in the past week that the european policy you described here today are much like those of the republicans'. i'd like to know how much time you specially spend on the european situation. >> what's the reaction to the information getting out to the public? secondly, what's your reaction to lawmakers who blame your team of leaks? megyn: not a single question on the recent jobs report, nothing on the presidential election and the one shout-out on the wisconsin recall was ignored by the president. we'll speak with one of the folks who idea to sit in that room about what we just saw from the reporters charged with the responsibility of questioning the president, to be of our next hour. >> well, we also have dramatic new details on the air france plane crash that cost 200 people their lives. we'll explain what the pilot was doing in the moments before this plane plummeted into the atlantic ocean. truly stunning information.
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and if a picture is worth a thousand words, what is on the other side of this image is worth 1000 warnings. you are not going to believe how the other half of this man's face looks, and why. but you need to hear it. our medical a team will be here to explain. >> attorney general eric holder facing tough questions on voter rights. in three minutes, a new twist in the showdown between the feds and the effort in a key battleground state to clean up its voter rolls. >> the database that i think has -- that florida is requesting is not necessarily an answer to these questions. the data base, a dhs database, does not contain within that rolls or that database people in the united states. that data base will, therefore, be flawed. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink?
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megyn: well, you think we have some raucous debates sneer a man hunt underway right now for a greek
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lawmaker who attacked two female political rival necessary the middle of a live tv show! watch the man in the lower lefthand box. you can see he's not happy. throwing a glass of water in one woman's face, then when another woman steps in, he pushes her and slaps her several times across the face. nice! remember, this is all on live tv. the man was subdued, he was locked in a room at the tv studio but he escaped by breaking down a door. look at this! terrible! and now prosecutors have issued a warrant for his or. -- for his arrest. attorney general eric holder facing accusations today of playing partisan politics during a fiery hearing on capitol hill, several congressmen slamming the justice department's attempts to block florida from removing inel-- ineligible people from one of its rolls, just one of
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the battles he is waging against the controversial voting laws ahead of the election. >> >> reporter: florida is attempting to purge from voter rolls what would turn out to be tens of thousands of ineligible voters but attorney general eric holder and department of justice, trying to block florida from doing so, which prompted this question from the chairman of the house judiciary committee: >> why would the department of justice not want states to remove ineligible felons, ineligible noncitizens and the dead from their voter rolls? the administration's actions aren't just wrong, they are arrogant, undemocratic and an insult to the rule of law. >> reporter: holder claims federal law prohibits such action, 90 days before any election in florida -- and florida's primary is in august. but governor rick scott thinks holder doesn't even understand the law, and he also thinks it's just a vac
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uous excuse, because for months the feds have denied florida access to a national data base that could help check the voter rolls for noncitizens. >> florida is defiantly refusing holder's demand to stop purging noncitizens from its voter rolls, intensifying an election year confrontation with the obama administration as each side, megyn, accuses the other of breaking federal law. what do you bet this will end up in front of a bunch of courts? megyn: absolutely. it's already gone before the u.s. supreme court on one photo i.d. requirement in indiana and mr. holder is also opposing new voter i.d. laws in other states, gregg, yes? >> that is true. holder blocked such a law in south carolina in december saying the statute disproportionately hurts black voters, and a nearly identical texas law. supporters say look, the
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laws are important, they're needed, important to prevent voter fraud. both of these are being appealed, guess what n. federal court. megyn: gregg, thank you. we just got breaking news ahead on a deadly outbreak in four southern states. we'll bring you the latest on the medical investigation into an e coli outbreak that's been linked to one death. >> right after this break, how one truck driver has become a textbook example for serious damage and a real medical risk. we'll show you what we're talking about, and we'll show you the other half of this picture. you have got to see this. it's right after this break. we'll give you a hint. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert
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megyn: well, a woman is now blame ago driving rampage on, quote, a hormonal imbalance! take a look at this surveillance video showing the woman plowing her car into aby stander, then speeding off as he clings to her windshield. police say she was trying to escape from a security guard at a pharmacy where she was accused of stealing. her lawyer says that at the time, the woman thought she was pregnant and she was, quote, hormonal. uh-huh? that defense apparently did not hold up in court. she's been sentenced to more than four years behind bars. the man was not seriously injured but the reputation of women worldwide was! >> new concerns today about the harmful effects of the sun. just in time for summer! thanks to this frightening photograph. here's the big reveal. check out the right side of the man's face, looks relatively normal, 66 years old. check out the left side. he's a veteran truck driver.
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he sat with the left side of his feign in the sun and window down in his truck for 25 years. look at the difference. they say he looks 86. he's got the face of an 86-year-old on the left, 66-year-old on the right. dr. marc siegl, our medical a team, this is terrifying to me because he was sitting in his car. it's not like he was on the beach. but just the rays coming through and at times he did have the window up as well but still the left side of his face aged that badly. is that what the sun can do to stphus. >> it's ultraviolet a rays. we always talk about b. ultraviolet b gives you your sunburn, it's a short wave but ultraviolet a penetrates down to the interior of your skin, the part where the collagen is, the elastic part is, the matrix of the skin, what's holding the skin up. ultraviolet a is found all times of the year and 50 times more common than ultraviolet b, what you get when you go to the beach. megyn: even if i go outside
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and don't get a sunburn i'm taking in uva rays that are doing that at some level to the skin? >> you bet and he could be 25 years out in the winter skin and still get that because it's a cumulative effect, and it also, and this is the thing i want everyone out there to know, it also can damage dna and lead to cancer and skin cancer is -- uva, we always think of the sunburn but uva, also, and skin cancer is the most common cancer in the united states. it's one half of all cancers. megyn: i hate to say it but not only do you appeal to people by talking about cancer but you also appeal to their vanity because a lot of people take in the sun because they think it looks attractive, yet is that attractive? poor guy, with all due respect, the left side of his face, he says he wants to have it altered cosmetically because he doesn't like what happened tom. where do you get uva rays, is it just from the sun? >> and also tanning beds. it's seven times greater risk of melanoma.
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megyn: what about this in the studio, fluorescent lights. >> you're always worried in the studio. >> it's killing me one day at a time. >> it's very mild. people should be wearing sunscreen all the time. >> every day. today. >> every day, when you're outside. if you're outside 15, 20 minutes you should be wearing spf30 or more to protect your skin. >> don't i need vitamin d from the sun? >> that's a great point. the sunscreen will keep you from absorbing enough vitamin d, especially in northern climates like this so you take vitamin d. take supplements. your physician can test you, it's easy enough to take a vitamin over the counter. megyn: what about people who say i have olive skin, i can go in the sun. >> i want people to know this was 1980s thinking. right now we know that when the skin turns color and tans it's a reaction to the dna damage occuring. it's saying no more, no more, no mas, no mas! we don't want anymore of
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this. >> i am obviously a bronze -- it's so clear how dark i am! but in my own mind i actually am, i have self-tanner on right now, right? the lotion that you put on, which takes me from being completely pasty to somewhat normal looking. so this dangerous as well? >> no, it's not the same thing and this is more or less makeup. i still don't like you putting chemicals on your skin. megyn: not only that you, but you tell me, this is bad, because am i not perpetuating the myth that you need to be darker to look good and little girls want to be this olive skinned -- they want to be a little darker. >> we're seeing two pictures, his and yours and i guarantee you the viewers are trying to look like you, not that. >> i might be setting a bad example. i might be going paste kwr*. >> it's probably healthier! >> when i was 20 years old i went into a facial clinic and they gave me a black light against my face and they show you the skin damage that you have
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underneath the layer of skin, and it was terrifying. you see all the damage you get as a kid. i have not intentionally taken in the sun since then, 21 years ago. >> the only thing i liked about the health reform law is the tax on tanning. it's a very bad thing. >> i hear that was lobbied hard against. the suntanning people did not want it. anyway, think twice before you go in the sun. >> and think twice before you sit in a car and don't think you're getting damage. >> and think twice about the sun bronzer, if you see a pasty megyn kelly, that's my responsibility! >> dramatic new reports reveal one of the pilots may not have been adequately trained to deal with the disaster that brought down an air france jet, but wait until you hear the other worry that cropped up in this investigation. unbelievable. >> plus, researchers pulled up a stunning find off the florida coast a. bull shark weighing a stunning
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>> you want say -- wouldn't say that he's going to win. why? >> i know he's going to win and i have a strange habit of trying to tell the truth when you ask me a question. i'm not sure he's going to win. he should win. megyn: former pennsylvania governor and former dnc chair ed rendell yesterday, joining a growing number of folks in the media, politicians and pundits and others who are now questioning whether president obama could actually lose his bid for reelection. that's a headline, that he could actually lose. these reports are coming during a week that the president's team would probably rather forget. over the past seven days we've seen a lackluster jobs report, republican scott walk managed to defeat a recall effort and hold on to his governor's seat in wisconsin, a top surrogate,
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bill clinton, went way off message and disagreed with the tax policy, then had to dial that back and the president's republican presidential challenger governor mitt romney beat him in fundraising for the month of may, not to mention yesterday aby partisan group of lawmakers blasted a string of intelligence leaks, then his attorney general eric holder faced tough questions on the hoeul and darrell issa challenged the administration's definition of a green job job in an exchange that was arguably embarrassing for the administration. joining me to discuss t. alan coomes, host of the alan coomes radio shows and mike gallagher, syndicated radio host and fox news contributor. let me start with this mike from the national journal, they have in one of their pieces this month, every 40 years the race for the white house is defined by a turning point, a period when the contest breaks towards one side and the other side can never recover. if mitt romney is inug rated in january history may look to june as the month in
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which president obama's fate was sealed. is it that bad? >> it's been a big month and a big week, but i'm really cautious. my side has to guard against being cocky and overconfident. i don't believe ed rendell, i don't believe the democrats who are starting to wave a red flag. democrats don't concede dirt. they didn't concede after scott walker beat their butts the other night of the you've got people on the left saying oh, this is a great night for barack obama. i mean, they never concede. so i think this might be reverse psychology on their part to try to mobilize their base. a left wing conspiracy! megyn: could it be dirt? >> here's some dirt. megyn: history in the making it's been a bad week, yes. >> huge. >> but is it as dire as the national journal suggests, it's a turning point? >> it's june! most people aren't paying attention yet. wasn't it andy card from the
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bush bush administration, you don't roll anything before november, people that care about this day to day are not the swath of the voting public. i don't think most people say attention until -- >> how do we get this in the polls? fox news shows romney and the president died. >> i don't think they mean a lot now. >> megyn: look at the momentum. you can see in may, the president had 57-point advantage over governor romney, now they're tied. >> it's going to be a very close election. i think it's going to be very close. nobody can predict what's going to happen. you have bad jobs numbers, worse than we would have liked. you're nodding at everything i'm saying. >> look the a the election, the trio governors, christie, scott brown before the historic midterm. this could arguably be that same pattern. megyn: but you know, i do think it's funny that the headline is he could lose. isn't that what an election is all about. one side could win and one side could lose? but that does seem to be
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shocking to some because the narrative had been romney is so weak, there's no way president obama's numbers are very good and now it seems like people are starting to question that. >> it's nuts to pretend that all of the sudden -- key have always lost. that's been inevitable from the first day he took office yet there is this desperation on your side alan, you can't deny it. >> this is a right wing narrative. >> ed rendell? >> let me speak for the republicans who said during the primary campaign, i have a list right here, p.y said failed governor, gingrich, a liar, talking about romney, santorum. the worst person to put up against barack obama. it was republicans who said romney was going to lose. it's just politics? when they do it. but not when -- >> megyn: politics or not, the question is there did seem among many that romney was this weak -- oh, it's never going to happen, he can't take on the obama machine. who cares who says it, right or left.
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but now do you see a change in that? >> i think we are seeing that now that all the forces are gather repbg around romney, they hate obama more than they hate romney. >> but there's more there. i also think romney, the more familiar he's gotten to the american voters and people, the more likable he's becoming and stronger he's eking as a candidate. there's a perception, i hear it on my radio show, this guy is the no the candidate he was last time around. he's stronger. megyn: also the perception that barack obama isn't the candidate. he can't be. >> the reputation you have, someone not as well known and after serving four years, can never be the same second time around and romney has become a stronger candidate. >> but president obama has broken promises. >> here we go, here we go. >> he wasn't there in wisconsin for the union. >> he's done most of what he said he was going to do. megyn: isn't it true that romney does benefit from the fact that he hasn't been in this white house for the past two years, because you guysill both concede the country and our politics are
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extremely divided an even if it were a republican in this white house for the past three years, with a democratic house and republican senate, it would have been a brutal battle. >> it's ugly. it's brutal. look at the republican primaries. you point out from your notes it was ugly in the primary process. it's going to get worse before it gets better. our side needs to cool our jets, not crow too much. >> stop crowing about wisconsin, then. >> it was big. >> the democrats tooko, it was great. megyn: the fox news polls show that the people trust governor romney more than president obama when it comes to the economy and taxes. you can see those numbers there. romney has a seven-point advantage over the president on the economy. and but the president does better than governor romney does when it comes to terrorism and foreign policy. however, jobs and the economy is the number one issue. >> and those could change depending upon the variable we can't predict which is what will happen in jobs between now and the election. megyn: i thought you said i'm not --
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>> mike gallagher says why go through the process. >> do as i say, not as i do. megyn: guys, thank you! happy friday. coming up after the break, more than 200 lives were lost when an air france plane crashed into the atlantic ocean. now dramatic new information about the pilot and what he may have been doing in the moments leading up to this crash. you will not believe. plus, this may be an era of self-indulgence but there are still inspiring stories of young women doing the right thing. one of them you see here, a high school track star helping a rival cross the finish line after she nearly collapsed. ahead, we've got some thoughts and advice for parents who want to raise a kid like her. >> ♪ >> ♪ [ male announcer ] if paula ebert had her way, she would help her child.
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megyn: update for you now on breaking news from last hour. there will be no triple crown and no more racing at all for i'll have another, the champion colt scratched from the belmont stakes due to a swollen continuedon -- tenon. officials say the tenon seemed tender and risking injury, they said, is, quote, not worth it. the horse is now officially retired but if he competed in one he would have been the first horse to win the triple crown since 1978. dramatic new report, revealing the bizarre circumstances behind one of the biggest aviation disasters and mysteries in mod aren't times. moments before, air france flight 447 crashed, more than three years ago, witnesses say the captain was out of the cockpit, possibly with a woman that
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he was traveling socially with on board that plane, leaving an inexperienced copilot at the controls. whopd sealed the fate of 228 people. here is the exact sequence of events that fateful night, at 10:29 the flight leaves braz ip enroute to paris, 1:59 the captain gives control over to the copilot, minutes later the plane hits turbulence, the autopilot disengages and the copilot makes the fatal mistake of pulling the nose up, putting the plane into a stall, at 2:48, flight 447 plunges into the atlantic ocean, killing all on board. robert mark is a commercial pilot and editor of jet line.com and with me now. robert, thank you very much for being here with us again. >> you're welcome. megyn: the allegations now, we had known the head pilot was not in the cockpit because they said he was on a scheduled break to take a nap during the lengthy flight. now the new information is
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that perhaps he was with a woman that he had been traveling with? >> well, i mean, that is the report. of course, i don't know how true that is. honestly, though, the problem was that even when the captain came back, he didn't perform lick a captain. he basically stood there and, you know, shouted a few orders but didn't do much else and that's right off the transcripts. megyn: now, they said early their this plane was believed to have crashed because i think it's called the pto tube, is that how you pronounce it, the pto tube, a critical piece of information that tells the pilot about speed, that perhaps it had frozen over and therefore the pilots had the wrong information and the aircraft stalled. how would the head pilot, how would having him there have helped the copilots who were there? >> well, the least experienced pilot, peerer said rec bowen, who has taken most of the rap for
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this whole thing, should have just been relieved of his duties and taken out of his seat and the captain would have jumped in and had the experience to look at the rest of the instruments to try to figure out what was going on and that's just not what happened of the it was kind of like being in the back seat, telling people what to do. it's not the same as when you're actually behind the wheel of a car. megyn: we talked to a british journalist who had done an extensive investigation into this aircraft because it was an airbus that crashed, and this is -- the airbus 330 is very common. it's like half the planes in the sky. there's a question about if this has got some design defect, americans, everyone, wants to know. his theory, after looking into this crash, was that there is a fatal design defect in the aircraft in that the controls that you have to grab manually to put the aircraft up or down, you can't feel the vibration and the pilot who is next to you can't tell what you're doing
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withouto throw needs to be more of a manual feel for the pilot. is that the conclusion of the investigators looking into this crash? >> well, i know it's snag you're looking at. personally, having been in the cockpit of the a330 at night, i can tell you that the ability for the other pilot to see the side stick, and it's to the right hand or lefthand side of the pilot, it would be almost impossible to see in a dark cockpit, anyway, so i honestly don't believe that -- it might be a slight factor but it's not the major factor or design flaw. megyn: what is the responsibility of the captain? this captain goes on a scheduled nap. i guess they get naps, because these a long flights and they had two other pilots sitting there at the controls of the plane, but if you look at the transcript of what went on between twoes copilots it is chilling, talking about how they said utright, i don't
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know what's happening, one at the end was so confused he was heard asking am i going down now? they had no idea what was happening with the 228 lives for which they were responsible that night. >> one thing that i think is really important, megyn, is at the time that this happened, they were in an area of thunderstorms, it was dark, it was turbulent, this was incredibly unexpected, and there's that startle factor to two pilots when they are not expecting anything to happen other than cruising along in normal flight. lights started flashing, warnings started going off, they started getting conflicting messages and when we've tried to resimulate this in a flight simulator, it's quite a challenge. it really is. so people need to understand that it's not quite as easy as just saying oh, well i'll just fly the airplane, however, the captain was still the one that was responsible for the death to them, more than anything else. i'm sorry, that's my particular thought on that.
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megyn: the story of this flight is being looked into right now by investigators, still, and the official report will come out, but there are a lot of questions about the design, about the behavior of those pilots that night, and about these pto tubes and what could have been done to prevent those from freezing over and giving the pilots bad information. these are important things to know and it's also important to know, as you'll point out, that flying remains an incredibly safeway to travel. >> it is. it is. megyn: thank you very much, sir. >> you're welcome. megyn: coming up, new details on a dramatic search just coming in, the desperate effort to track down an e coli outbreak that's killed a baby and made ten others badly sick. that's after the break. >> plus new questions on one of our top stories. why did some reporters when given the opportunity not ask president obama about some of the biggest stories of the week? >> do you think european leaders have a handle on what's needed -- >> i want to know if you
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megyn: fox news alert now on a desperate search for answers into a deadly outbreak of e coli, it is being leaked to the death of an infant from new orleans last week, along with at least ten other cases in the south. most of them are in or around atlanta. john roberts is live there now. john. >> reporter: good afternoon to youin. we can also tell you that the number of cases has increased by three. it's now 14 cases in six states across the nation. let's put up the map. we just got this information in. these are the 11 cases that we knew about before, five in georgia, most of those in counties surrounding
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atlanta, one in florida, two in alabama, three in louisiana. we can now add two more states to that list, up here in tennessee they had one case, and clear across the country in california, they are now reporting a case. the reason why this has become so urgent, some of the cases, the cases in georgia were in april and didn't raise too much of an alarm but last week, last thursday a young girl 21 months ago, mayala graffini it i died by a syndrome caused by the sugar toxin that this e coli o154 produce. her parents thought maybe she got it from a petting zoo, but none of the other cases have' tracked to a petting zoo so they think it's something else. at the moment it would important that food borne illness is the likely culprit, but they don't know for sure. here's what nicole price said, quote, we have detected no food items or environmental exposures that are statistically associated
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with illness at this time. the investigation is ongoing. if it's food, the likely culprit when it comes to e coli is always ground beef but it could be something else, it could be lettuce, that's been a culprit, spin kwrafp, as well as bean sprouts. a couple of quick tips. there are people using cooked meat and raw vegetables. cook it to 165 degrees, if you're giving vegetables to a young person, it's probably better to cook them. megyn: thank you john. the white house is refusing to appoint a special investigator to get to the bottom of a flood of intelligence leaks, leaks that general jack keene just compared to the worst of what spies have done in the united states in recent years. he is here live, just ahead. plus an exchange on green jobs, fueling controversy over the way the obama administration reports employment information. ahead, congressman darrell issa explains the interesting accounting. >> what about the guy who
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megyn: fox news alert. new questions this hour about the president's news conference today. brand new hour here of "america live". welcome, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the news conference coming on the heels of big events that happened this week. crisis in syria continues. wisconsin's recall election was big news. may's dismal jobs report of course. and big developments in the 2012 campaign. but after remarking briefly on the economy the president called on just three reporters who asked roughly eight questions, six of those, focused on europe's crisis. listen. >> thank you very much, mr. president. could you tell the american people what role the united states is playing in the european debt crisis? and also do you think
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european leaders have a handle on what's needed to stem the crisis? and finally you talked about a number about ideas you already put forth to shield the american economy. do you plan to give a speech or lay out additional ideas now that the crisis is really escalating. >> thank you, mr. president. i'd like to ask you a couple about what, a couple other people said about europe. and one is that, i would like to know if you agree with former president bill clinton who said in the past week that the european policies that you described here today are much like those of the republicans in this country. policies of austerity that would take us in the same direction as europe. if you agree with that the republicans for their part have said you're simply blaming the europeans for problems that have been caused by your own policies. but i would reich you to respond to both of those. tell us precisely how much time you personally spechbd on the european situation.
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>> dave jackson. >> couple details about national security issues. reports of terrorists kills that you supervised. reports of cyber attacks on iranian nuclear program thaw ordered. first of all two things what is your reaction to the information getting out in public and what is your reaction to lawmakers that accuse your team leaking details. to promote the campaign. >> leaks going on now that's what you're saying? >> that was it. joining us former usa correspondent, richard benedetto. richard, welcome this is a little surprising, first of all the president only calls on three reporters and at a news conference and those reporters don't manage to get a question in about the jobs report may which was dismal. about how the numbers just had to be restated for the prior two months. not to mention the wisconsin recall. who's responsibility is this
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the president or journalists? >> it is journalists responsibility. i'm flabbergasted by this development by the fact we don't have that many press conference with the president anyway. there are usually pent up questions reporters should have to go in there with to ask the president because that is the only shot they get. we haven't heard him remark about wisconsin and what happened in wisconsin and what effect it might have on his re-election campaign. would have asked him that question. would have asked him his reaction to the jobs report last friday and dismal. nobody directly asked the president about that. syria, syria has been exploding and, there seems to be no ability on the part of the united nations to get the situation under hand. why not ask him a question about that? megyn: why would the president stay and take a few more questions on this? i mean, he had a couple of reporters, i didn't see any of the networks. why didn't he call on wendell goler who was there? why didn't he call on jake
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tapper, "abc news." some of the tougher questionsers at these things. none of them got called. a few reporters and he is out of there. >> right. i think that, obviously he didn't want to answer those questions and he figured let me get out of here while the getting's good because he didn't have to answer those questions. the one controversial question he did get was the question about the security, national security potential leaks with regard to the cyber attacks on iran's nuclear program. even that he had obviously he thought he was going to get that question. he had a prepared answer. the prepared answer was the cliche that everybody is going to report now, that he's offended by idea, very idea, the follow-up question to that has to be, by a reporter, who covers the white house, is, the follow-up question is, how come, all these, if the white house isn't leaking this stuff, how come conversations in the situation room have been recounted in this report? megyn: right. why, according to "the new york times", why are 13
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current and former administration officials talking to "the new york times" about information that was leaked if is so offense and wrong and doesn't happen. on cia leak or investigation, sorry, the let me restate that on the intelligence leaks that have been coming out, why isn't the white house going to appoint a special prosecutor? so many things we need to ask the president about. to some extent you can fault the journalists. i don't know what the woman from reuters was thinking about asking is questions of europe, number one opportunity press conference that, is honored role to be in when the president turns to you to ask you first. but he was the one who evident are. he was the on one who left, richard after a few questions. why? what was this really about? >> this was about, he needed to get control of the news again, get himself back into the news where he is not on the defensive because so much of the reporting over the past week has had the president being on the defensive. there was a headline on the front page of "the
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washington post" this morning, said romney outraised him in money the past month that is another thing. he called this press conference on the spur of the moment and i would think. to get himself in control a day or two in the news cycle. so the news is something the president is saying rather than coverage he is getting last few days, that he is attending a lot of fund-raisers. megyn: it was unusual thing to witness i have to say, watching a lot of these white house press conferences. richard, thank you for your take on it, sir. >> thank you. megyn: well it is not just what was not asked of president obama that is raising eyebrows. it is also what the president said. both governor romney and the republican national committee are already jumping all over this remark. >> the truth of the matter is, as i said we created 4.3 million jobs over the last two, 27 months. over 800,000 just this year alone. the private sector is doing fine.
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megyn: well, those remarks, the private sector is doing fine, are already the subject of a commercial, of an ad the rnc is putting out of the republicans are asking with more than 23 million americans out of work or underemployed should the president be saying that the private sector is doing fine? we'll take that up in a fair and balanced debate with chris hahn and chris plante moments from right now. a 60 second congressional question and answer session with the bureau of labor statistics is raising a whole lot of new questions this week whether this administration is playing political games how they report employment data. the president's team claimed great success with its so-called green jobs program, saying they have created more than 3 million such jobs, leading congressman darrell issa to ask, what exactly is a green job? listen. >> if you're sweeping the floor in a solar panel production facility, is that a green job? >> if you asked me for the
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number of health care jobs in the united states, i will give you employment from the health care industry. that -- >> look, mr. galvin, you did not want to come here as a witness. you were not a delighted witness. so let's go through this i asked you a question. you know the answer. would you please answer it. if you sweep the floor in a solar panel facility, is that a green job? >> yes. >> thank you. if you drive a hybrid bus, public transportation, is that a green job. >> according to our definition, yes. >> thank you. what if you're a college professor teaching classes about environmental studies? >> yes. >> what about just any school bus driver? >> yes. >> what about the guy who puts gas in the school bus? >> yes. >> how about employees at a bicycle shop? >> i guess i'm not sure about that. >> the answer is yes according to your definition. megyn: joining me now, representative darrell issa of california, a republican.
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he is the chairman of the house government oversight committee and with me now, mr. chairman, welcome back to the program. that was an eye-opening exchange you had with mr. galvin. he seemed to be trying to say look, when you say how many people are employed in the health care industry i give you overall number. we include guys who sweep the floors. we include doctors and nurses. same things for green jobs industry. why is that bad or wrong or in any way dishonest? >> well, megyn there is about 120 million jobs in america. if you were to count using his system, different industries you would end up with 600 million jobs because the kinds of things they count obviously count elsewhere. you understand that a lobbyist for an oil company, the question is that a green job? the answer was yes. the way they got to 3.1 million, they lumped in things nobody thinks of as green jobs but more importantly they lumped in things that everyone knows are not new jobs. the person who fuels a bus is not a new job. and yet they wanted to score them.
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and in their own testimony they admitted that if you went back years and applied this you would find millions of jobs that qualified long before, not just long before obama but long before bush, long before reagan. and that is part of the problem is the president has said we have 3.1 million new green jobs created by the stimulus. it is just not true. you don't even have one million new jobs by the reasonable definition of, let's just say you're sweeping floors but you're doing it in a solar facility that wouldn't otherwise be there. it is a few 100,000 jobs at best if you count what would be called new green jobs. megyn: why does it matter, if it is a job that is created, why should the american people whether it is classified under green jobs or classified under school bus jobs? it is a job. maybe they got the category wrong but why should people care about this? >> people care because it is propaganda to say you created 3.1 billion or million of new jobs with billions dollars of stimulus. what they care about 12 million americans that want
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jobs can't find them. we need to create jobs. we need to make sure there are jobs to be created. when the president cut off the keystone pipeline he cut off jobs that pay over $100,000 a piece. he cut off refining jobs. he cut off pipeline jobs. he cut off high-paying jobs quite frankly he may not want to consider them green but americans who put green in their pocket would consider them the right kind of green whether they're manufacturing, mining and agriculture jobs that pay good money. megyn: there was another exchange, you mentioned part of it where you asked him about oil lobbyists whether they count. also garbage men. i want to play that for our viewers now. >> okay. how about, just one more here. what about people who work in a trash disposal yard, do garbage men have green jobs? >> yes. >> okay. i apologize. the real last, last, is, how about an oil lobbyist? wouldn't an oil lobbyist
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count as having a green job if they're engaged in advocacy related to environmental issues? >> yes. >> can you explain why that is particularly controversial? >> well because obviously when you start taking the nongreen jobs according to the president for purposes of disliking these industries. remember the president only likes all-of-the-above energy. he doesn't like the energy that comes from below the ground. yet he is willing to score those gains occurring in natural gas and oil and so on. any gain there, he is trying to figure out a way to take credit for it as a net green job. well, canceling the keystone pipeline, having epa try to end hydraulic fracturing and so on, he is trying to kill jobs but he still wants to count them if they exist. that is one of the problems with this administration. we need 12 million net new jobs. we need them to be high-paying good, american, quality of life jobs and that goal should be a common goal. not trying to find a way to find those jobs that are created but label them as
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green for some virtual agenda that quite frankly isn't working very well. solyndra is not an a-plus by anyone's standard. megyn: chairman issa. thank you, sir. >> thank you. megyn: see you soon. up next the president says the private sector is doing fine. really? chris plante and chris hahn in one of the best debates of the day, right after the break. hey, the new guy is loaded with protein!
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>> and the most important thing i think we can do is make sure that we continue to have a strong, robust recovery. so the steps that i've outlined are the ones that are needed. we've got a couple of sectors in our economy that are still weak. overall the private sector has been doing a good job creating, creating jobs. megyn: new reaction now to that climb from president obama that the private sector is doing a good job. he went on to say that the private sector is doing fine.
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that's a quote. the private sector is doing fine. the president was talking about hiring but mitt romney immediately countered with questions about the number of people who are not working in this country. >> he said the private sector is doing fine. is he really that out of touch? i think he is defining what it means to be detached and out of touch with the american people. megyn: joining me now, chris plante, host of the chris plante show, and fox news contributor christopher hahn a former aide to democratic senator chuck schumer. guys, welcome. already the rnc hitting him with a ad. mitt romney with a rapid response on that as well. even the "huffington post" describes it as a gaffe. chris hahn, as democrat is that a gaffe. >> fine is not excellent. megyn: no, it is not. >> private sector is gearing up. it added 4.5 million jobs under this profit. profits have never been
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higher. executive compensation has never been higher. megyn: 23 million americans are unemployed. >> that's right. the difference between president obama's recovery and recovery the let as say ronald reagan, the public shedded almost half a million jobs under president obama where in reagan's time it added a million jobs during the same time period in his press densy. right now what is dragging the economy down is our austerity at state and local level forcing governments to lay people off in record numbers adding to unemployment roles and weakening the economy. megyn: that is exactly the point the president was trying to make, chris plante. he went on to say the private sector is doing fine but where we're seeing weakness in the economy has to do with state and local governments often times cuts initiated by governors and mayors not getting kind of help they have in the past from the federal government. >> right. megyn: he wants more help and he wants, that's why he is calling on congress to pass his bill he says will help the local governments,
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public sector, rebuild their jobs. >> yeah, more government spending. that is novel approach. i wonder if that has been tried before. >> it has been and it works. >> yeah right. in greece and in spain and -- >> in the united states. >> government spending. yeah you can prop up those government jobs on a state and local level for a while, by spending, you know, $887 billion or whatever it is that we spent last time around. but then you have to do it again every year. that is the problem with that. we've got democrat governors in states all across america from california to illinois, to formerly wisconsin, that have spent their states into bankruptcy and you know the solution is not more government spending. you know, as megyn mentioned we've got 23 million americans, who are either unemployed or underemployed or flat-out given up looking for work. they're no longer even counted in the 8.2% unemployment rate. we have got, median income has dropped 10% in the last, in the last four years. megyn: yeah. >> people are hurting out
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there and the president says everything is fine. megyn: whether those people, how those people will react to president obama saying the private sector is fine. they don't feel fine and they want a president who understands they are not fine just because they're not a cop or firefighter doesn't mean they are not, that they're fine. and, the question i have for you, chris hahn, whether it equates to this moment which many thought was a death knell to john mccain's campaign in 2008. here it is being replayed in the barack obama campaign ad. watch it. >> our economy i think still, the fundamentals are of our economy are strong but these are very, very difficult times. and i promise you we will never put america in this position again. megyn: he tried to couch it. but the fundamentals of our economy are strong. came back to haunt him in a major way. >> no doubt the romney campaign will put up many ads with the president saying the private sector is doing fine. but let's remember, it is june. the election has got a long way to go between now and
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then. when you see romney out there, a guy like say sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and say things like sports and saying president is out of touch. it makes me laugh every single time. >> that's it. >> i never had sauce on a goose or a gander. megyn: it is a expression. i never had a goose or gander but i know that expression. let me ask you chris, before i let you go. mitt romney had gaffs in the campaign. said i'm not concerned about the very poor and had to try to fix that i like firing people. had to fix that. happens on both side but how big is this one? >> i mean this is key because the reality is when, senator mccain, for example, said the fundamentals of our economy are strong, the fundamentals of our economy were then strong. the fundamentals have been under attack ever since by president obama and his minions gone after everything from the vulture capitalists as they like to describe mitt romney, people who bleeth life back into companies. when the fundamentals are
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under attack doesn't lead to prosperity. more government spending doesn't lead to prosperity. he has got it wrong. he is out of touch. megyn: thanks. new developments in the george zimmerman case. why the special prosecutor making suing alan dershowitz. call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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megyn: thousands of people are taking part in rallies across the country right now. here is some video just in from one of the events in washington. all these folks taking a stand against the health care mandate they say violates principles of religious freedom enshrined in the constitution. chief washington correspondent jim angle live in washington with more. hey, jim. >> reporter: megyn it is a movement called stand up for religious freedom. they had 154 rallies around the country like the one on capitol hill to protest a ruling by administration that only churches are
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exempt from providing contraception drugs. hospitals would have to provide contraception coverage in violation of their religious beliefs which. >> i applaud you not only being here today. i applaud the 43 groups to have guts to file lawsuits against this mandate. >> the mandate affects every single american, no matter what their religious belief or their view i abortion may be. what will they do next? what religious or demographic group will they target next? >> reporter: now the exemption only goes to institutions that hire and service those of the same faith. catholic charities say that means instead of asking someone if they're hungry, they would have to ask them are you catholic or forced provide contraceptives. they say it violates the constitution and 11 acts of
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congress over four decades keeping the government from forcing religious group to violate their religious beliefs. the last one in 199 was championed by teddy kennedy and congressman chuck schumer. >> it says if you substantially burden the free exercise of religion you have to have a compelling governmental interest and there can't be a less restrictive way of doing it. on all these tests the federal mandate on contraception fails. >> reporter: today's demonstrations are part of a lengthier process of protest as well as the lawsuits. so the administration has a real fight on its hands. megyn. megyn: jim, thank you. >> reporter: yes, ma'am. megyn: new questions today after the white house refuses to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate recent intelligence leaks. lawmakers say the leaks are putting american lives at risk. general jack keane says the problems don't stop there. he's next. a high school track star sees another runner collapse during a race and carries her rival across the finish line, making sure the other
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>> i've been on this committee close to 10 years. this is one of the most serious breaches in last couple articles that came out i've seen. it puts us at risk. it puts lives at risk.
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>> wherever the responsibility falls out that's where it is going to be and if it is in the administration, fine if it is not in the administration, fine. >> all four of us come forward today and talk about the severity of these leaks i hope sends a very clear message about how dangerous this has become. >> this has to stop. when people say they don't want to work with the united states because they can't trust us to keep a secret, that is serious. when allies become concerned, when an asset's life is in jeopardy, or the asset's family's life is in jeopardy, that's a problem. megyn: extraordinary event yesterday as a bipartisan group of senators from the senate intelligence committee wants answers to a series of high-profile intelligence leaks but the obama administration for now has decided not to appoint a special counsel to look into exactly how such sensitive information is being funneled to certain media outlets, repeatedly. some of the high-profile
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leaks in question over the past year includes the classified background on the bin laden raid. recent stories about the pakistani doctor who has been in prison now for 33 years after it emerged he helped the united states find usama bin laden. extensive reports on the president's so-called counterterrorism kill list and details about how he personally participates in approving the names there on. secret details of possible cyber attacks against iran with respect to its nuclear program. and press reports revealing a double agent who penetrated al qaeda in yemen and helped foil a bomb plot. joining me now to discuss it, fox news military analyst, retired lt. general, not lt. general, retired general jack keane. my apologies, sir. four-star general and former chief of staff of the army. mike barrett, national security expert and former intelligence officer at secretary of the defense. david webb, host of the
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david webb show on sirius xm and cofounder of the patriot 365. you believe these are the most serious security leaks you have every observed. you said in in the preinterview. you find it compared to the worst what united states has done in the past with spies and traitors. how so? >> all administrations leak, that is fact. post-world war two. the exception is security leaks but they have all done that. what is particularly egregious with these leaks, first and foremost revelation we had a covert espionage operation against our adversary, iran. and clearly if we're doing that particular operation, we have others in mind or they're being executed. it gives the iranians clear evidence that we have done it. the ability to prepare against others and take
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precautionary measures. the other thing particularly dangerous in terms of national security, the iranians track record is very clear. they're eye for an eye. they're after the israeli officials in foreign land because they fundamentally believe the israelies were responsible for assassinating their nuclear scientists. they will come after us as a result of this. that's what i think the congressman are so concerned and senators about this. because this is a very egregious leak that directly affects our national security. then the exposure of two agent. now whether we exposed both of those agents, one who is a double agent and the other one is a doctor in pakistan, i don't know. i know the fbi is investigating the exposure of the double agent. that just runs rampant through our intelligence services in having a double agent outed like that, in terms of the jeopardy that others are in who are operating right now at some risk to themselves. also when you're trying to recruit somebody. it's pretty serious. that's why there is so many energy on both sides of the
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aisle over this thing. megyn: mike, you're a former intel officer. i talked about this earlier in the program. a lot of folks looking at intelligence community, the cia in particular, they are known for leaking. they did it a lot under president bush. a lot are asking whether they're doing it under this president, for whatever their motivations may be. do you see that as the most likely source? >> i think it is hard to tell who the sources are. an awful lot of these ones at "new york times" are most likely politically motivate the. we have an election obviously this year and the political decision was made, we're going to do these kind of leaks. the danger with this stuff as the general alluded to, the sanction leaks. but you have the said credit trust between -- sacred trust between people in the security services and wikileaks. one person making a decision they will share all this information and then you create all the problems we've had with that all sorts of retaliations and exposure of tradecraft, and techniques and procedures. next time we go to carry out one of these types of
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missions certain avenues in the past will not be available again and people will be much more reluctant to work with us. megyn: david, president obama came out earlier today, was really no-holds-barred on this, the implication, the suggestion that someone in my administration is behind the leaks is offensive. anybody who says that misunderstands the way we operate. i mean it was, it was a comprehensive and unambiguous denial. why do we need a special counsel to investigate when, is the word of the president no longer good? >> well, the fact is, when it comes to the this administration, do we let the fox guard the henhouse in this case? look the destruction of our human intelligence network was a problem in the late '90s. and here we see the exposure is of it with the operators, with the agencies. as both gentlemen said, talk about recruiting others to work with us and trust, which is necessary. the president protests a little too much, megyn. that's what he see in this. megyn: what is he supposed
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to say? half protestation if it is not true and he is being accused of endangering american lives by working his own political advantage? >> well, we see that. and by the way this is the first administration i've seen make an actual movie out of the one of issues with the bin laden raid working with hollywood. megyn: people want to know about that. >> bottom line, people, there are very few people at these meetings. they're held at highest level. wherever this is coming from it is close to the president's inner circle. the danger to america and our interests abroad and down the line how do we work with our allies? trust in intelligence. trust in america. megyn: that is thing both sides of the aisle came out yesterday talked about the importance of. american lives are at risk and our intelligence sources are at risk. if you're pakistani doctor, a doctor just like him do you want to help the united states now? general keane, let me talk to you about it and try to take the politics out of this. how do we make it stop? we need to it stop. if american lives are in
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danger and how do we do that? if the president doesn't want a special counsel or special prosecutor, what is our next step. >> first the fbi is investigating it. i have confidence in the director of the federal bureau of investigation to be able to get to the bottom of this thing. he is totally apolitical and will not be influenced by someone in the administration and outside of it. secondly, i don't agree with special prosecutor. last two we had were fiascos. one running down scooter libby and one in clinton administration went from one investigation to another. he took up residence. so i i think it is in appropriate hands. let's give them the opportunity to do that. that is number un. find out who did it, if there is criminal activity then prosecute. secondly i total agree with senator feinstein. we have to get new legislation involved that actually curbs this behavior, that exposes people routinely as our intelligence services are, to polygraphs. that will absolutely bring this stuff to a halt. megyn: mike, could that
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happen? >> well, i certainly would be appropriate. one of the things that we haven't really talked about there is this sacred bond, the people who take the oath and people such as myself who agree to have security clearances have to live by a certain code. there are obviously you can't ever have any history of illegal drugs, can't do other things. certain people who worked on submarine programs in the '80s and early '90s couldn't travel abroad for period of time. there are restrictions agree to because you care about the national interest. the people who that information is shared with ought to be held to the same high standards. megyn: we'll see what happens. appreciate you coming on. appreciate your time. >> thank you, megyn. megyn: see you soon. teenagers get a lot of negative media coverage but this young woman proves there are some things that young women, young kids in general, are doing right. up next, a look at the lesson for parents on how to raise a young hero yourself. ♪
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earlier this week we brought you two inspiring stories of teenage girls making headlines for doing the right thing. this ohio track star refused to leave a rival runner behind who had collapsed. meghan vogel picked up the rival and helped her get to the finish line, forcing her over the line ahead of meghan vogel. then we met stormy rich. a high schooler who got national attention for sticking up young girl with mental abilities being bullied on the school bus. storm my got in trouble for standing up to the other strunt but said she had no regrets. led us to ask, how exactly does one raise a child like this? fox news medical a timer, dr. keith be a he blow --
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ablow. we got so much mail on young girls, young girls, stood up for someone who was in need and mentally challenged and the brunt of bullies or one who literally too physically exhausted to finish a race, sacrifices for her own ability to finish ahead of her, meghan vogel put this other girl first, how, what is the mentality behind that? >> what i'll say is this. there will some psychiatrists perhaps would tell you people are born this way. that your brain has a certain level of chemical messenger like serotonin and allows to be present at such moments and it is luck. i don't think so. i think people like meghan vogel are made and nurtured. in order to be these young women or that young woman you need to empathize with. parents need to show you self-sacrifice. they need to applaud when you put others first.
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these are learned behaviors that we're seeing and applauding now which is good for everybody to see by the way, because we shuttle straight these things and that becomes contagious. just as bad behavior can. megyn: is very interesting. so dealing with your own children, not just a matter saying to them, be empathetic, protect the week, just don't be strong you have to be empathetic toward your child so they learn it? >> that's right the key here. in other words, kids learn most, by what they experience. are they nurtured? do they feel, that they're strong enough to spare a little energy or courage for somebody else? you know, megyn, i've always evaluated people who have done horrible things. people who have killed others or attacked them. in every case, in which i've evaluated such people, those folks are made, too. they are not born. they have had horrific acts of lack of empathy shown them and burns out their capacity to care for others this can be taught.
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this should be taught in schools. and at home. megyn: you know the situation with megyn vogel helping that runner in across the finish line. she knew she would be disqualified if she helped another runner who was not with her school. she did it anyway. to their credit they decided not to disqualify either girl. >> great thing. megyn: her martie ann vogel was across the track when happening. she couldn't see her daughter. and coaching friend said look over to the ann vogel. look up at screen. this is what she saw her own daughter doing. can't imagine feeling more proud as a parent as you watch that, doc? >> you should feel proud. i would tell ms. vogel, the mother here, this is what you have sown. you are reaping what you have sown. this no accident. you did this. megyn: what do you make of the fact that it is young girls? i mean when i was growing up back in the day, you know, most of the heroes out there, most of the people, movies and so on who would, you know, help the weak and be the one who saved the day
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were guys. there weren't a lot of female role models like this. >> there probably weren't as many competitive athletes who were females. look, everybody mother who sacrificed for their child, every sister, my sister stood up for me in the schoolyard, every sister who has done this for a brother, this is something that is not gender based. this is about courage. this is about compassion. this is about, being smart, because in fact, it doesn't matter if you win that race that day. what really matters is what kind of character are you honing for the long run. megyn: right. >> the mayor athon of -- marathon of life. megyn: we talked about in the case of stormy rich who was on a business where they were bullying a mental disabled child and she said she complain to the school. she complained to the bus driver. they didn't do anything. she resolved, was a little older. i will not let this happen again. she knew she she would get in trouble. she got banned from the school bus.
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if this were my child we'll find a way to get you to school. i have do same thing all over again. >> absolutely. megyn: listen to the stormy rich's school's rationale, mentally challenged girl, she never complained. listen to stormy rich. >> what kid that is bullied goes and tells somebody? what kid? they want to have friend. sticking up for somebody. why would you get in trouble for doing that? i never want this to happen to anybody else. i know we can't save the world but at least we could try to help people that go to umatilla. megyn: that is her school. >> megyn, i really want people to understand in order to have a stormy rich on the face of the planet at her age, she has to have been listened to. when she complained to her parents, said this isn't fair, they can't have sent her to her room or punished in her. they have to have listened and sought to know who she was. otherwise she couldn't have done that on this bus. miracles unfold because we
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kindle the light in every child. it is also easily extinguished but not in these two young women. megyn: well-said. dr. ablow, thank you so much. >> thanks. my pleasure. megyn: taking your thoughts on that. follow me on twitter at megyn kelly. up next a wild new twist in one of the most controversial cases in the country. the special prosecutor who is handling the trey trey murder trayvon martin murder case is threatening famed law professor, alan dershowitz for comments like the ones he made on this program. you are now saying if anybody should be criminally charged in this case it is the prosecutors. why? a party?
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angela corey threatening to sue harvard law school over some comments by attorney alan dershowitz who blasted the prosecution in several appearances including two on this broadcast. you are now saying that if anybody should be criminally charged in this case it is the prosecutors. why? >> well, first of all, anybody who is involved in a shooting should be investigated and perhaps there should be charges against zimmerman. so let's put that aside for a second. but this affidavit submitted by the prosecutor in the florida cases, is a crime. it's a crime. if she in fact knew about abc news's pictures of the bloody head of zimmerman, and, failed to include that in the affidavit, this affidavit is not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> gregg jarrett, more in our new york newsroom. >> reporter: dershowitz is
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famous for winning big legal cases. brutal for candor. quote. i would welcome a lawsuit from corey. it would give me a chance to prove what an you have a thul thing she did. corey made it public with a splash any news conference. dershowitz found hit thin and irresponsible. there was nothing that would justify second-degree murder. he turned up the volume with two interviews with our own megyn kelly saying that corey may have suborned perjury. >> they knew that zimmer man had bruises in back of his head. they knew he had a broken nose. they had access to the full face photograph. they knew the forensics. they just submitted false affidavits and generated the media frenzy. finger of responsibility points clearly at the prosecutor. she raised expectations by politically indicting zimmerman for second-degree murder when there was never any basis.
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>> reporter: after that dershowitz says corey called his boss at haw vard law school threatening to sue for liable and slander. what he calls a 40 minute rant. he wrote a column for newsmax. let me quote that. when the communications official explained that to her that i have a right to express my opinion that. she persist the in her nonstop whining. she will learn it is never appropriate to submit a half-truth but the half-truth is regarded by the law as lie. anybody who submits an affidavit swears to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing else the truth. thus end the lesson from the professor. megyn: unbelievable. you can not make this stuff up, gregg. >> reporter: you have to do the dersch. megyn: we'll be right back. >> reporter: bye-bye.
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>>megyn: and the last runner
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needs medical attention, not delayed by the slow walk to the finish line. she wine up in court? we are trying to end on a happy note. so, we will have a great weekend. >>shepard: the president says the noble economic mess is not his full. blame europe. not to mention the republicans in congress. the top g.o.p. senator fires back saying the president must be on another planet. we will get into that. we are learning the pentagon has put a stop to free shipments of guns, humvees and other military equipment to police because some of the gear was getting in the wrong hands. plus you can forget the triple crown this year the horse "i'll have another," today, a scratch. jonathan hunt is like at track unless breaking news changes everything. this

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