305 billion. bring in 180. that means we have a huge chunk of red ink. if you project forward that means we run out of authority to borrow money roughly the end of november. that means congress has to be asked if we can borrow more money. we hit the debt ceiling. the president has to go to congress to say can we raise the debt ceiling above the current ceiling of $16.3 trillion. that is a big political event. bill: we have a election first week in november. you say nothing changes debt ceiling hits end of november? >> roughly speaking. how to calculate precisely. bill: there is trump card held out there by the white house. they could make a deal. do you believe anything will be done before the election? >> doesn't look like it. the two sides of the fence are polar opposites. how do we get a grip on future spending? how do we bring in more money to the treasury? the two sides are poles apart. an agreement before the election looks at this point

to be highly unlikely. bill: back to the report now which shows that we had higher tax receipts going into washington. >> yep. bill: higher tax revenue and slightly lower government spending from year to year by about a smidge. >> yep. bill: in this case how big is a smidge? >> a smidge is about 100 billion. the deficit for the financial year that ended last september 30th was about 1.3 trillion. the deficit for this financial year which ends this september 30th, will be around $1.2 trillion. 100 billion less. that is your smidge. however, there's a caveat, bill? we have signs this morning that the economy is indeed slowing down. retail sales actually fell in the month of may. if the economy slows like this, revenues to the treasury are not as strong as expected. therefore you might get a deficit that goes back up again above 1.3 trillion. and we hit the debt ceiling before the election. bill: .2% how big of a deal is that? how much does that tell you?

>> the consumers make up what, 60 to 70% of this economy. when their sales, their ability to go out there and buy stuff goes down in a single month that's a very big deal for the economy. it tells you we are slowing. we are weakening. bill: stuart, thank you. see you on fbn 10 minutes away. stuart varney in the house. despite the deficit numbers the president said he inherited all these problems accusing the last administration spending the money leaving him with the tab. does that hold water? a fair and balanced debate 30 minutes away on that. stay tuned. martha. martha: north dakota voters saying no to an end to property taxes. we brought you this story yesterday. north dakota was looking to become the first state in the union to completely eliminate property taxes. but 76% of voters said no. they don't like to go for that idea. they like paying their property taxes. the president of the north dakota chamber of commerce says the tax structure could not be fixed

by eliminating one tax. the chamber supports broad based tax reform. interesting story. we'll see where that goes. here is this from syria where some are suggesting that this is throwing gasoline on what is now an inferno of violence there. secretary of state hillary clinton saying that russia is continuing to send arms to the assad regime. >> we have confronted the russians about stopping their continued arms shipments to syria. we are concerned about the latest information we have that there are attack helicopters on the way from russia to syria which will escalate the conflict quite dramatically. martha: indeed it would. as we get continuing reports of syria using helicopters to kill their own civilians. conor powell is live in our middle east bureau. how is this new weapons situation fueling the violence there? >> reporter: well, martha, new weapons mean that the horrific violence we've seen

in syria already could escalate to new levels. now russia is reportedly sending attack helicopters to syria to support the assad regime. one of the things we've seen in recent days and weeks the syria military is using helicopter more and more to attack rebel positions in part to lessen syrian troop casualties. also because the syrian rebels appear to get influx of new weapons as well. new aks, to anti-take missiles. all of this ads more sort of violence and horrific angle to the violence we've seen in syria. now the u.s. denies accusations by russia that it is supplying weapons to the syrian rebels. most likely what is happening according to reports countries like qatar and saudi arabia are supplying weapons and the u.s. is helping facilitate and coordinating those deliveries. martha? martha: everything you're describing certainly has the makings of a civil war if indeed that isn't already underway. what impact does that have?

>> reporter: nothing in terms of how the international community reacts to the situation in syria. the label of civil war doesn't mean the u.s. or any other country will intervene militarily. they have all taken that off the table. because it was the u.n. that labeled this a civil war, u.n. peacekeepers were attacked yesterday. there are real concerns that u.n. peacekeepers who are the realize and ears in syria right now may not be able to tell the world what is happening in syria. journalists of course aren't allowed in there. very tough to get information out of syria. because the syrian regime denies there is a civil war and rebels deny it is a civil war for various reasons the term civil war could make it difficult for the u.n. to operate there. we'll have less knowledge what is actually happening in the country. martha? martha: we have so little except for videos that keep coming in and shocking they are. conor powell reporting. a fox news alert now out of iraq.

a blitz of coordinated car bombings that killed 63 people there. that is the estimate. dozens of people were wounded in one of the deadliest attacks since u.s. troops with drew last year. the bombs targeting shiite pilgrims in several cities. no group is claiming responsibility but the violence appears to be the work of sunni extremists. bill: back in this country now, an emotional night for folks in arizona's 8th congressional district. democrat ron barber winning a special election for the seat once held by injured congresswoman gabrielle giffords. barber is a former giffords aide injured in the shooting rampage that killed six and nearly took giffords life. giffords has made few public appearances. you can see in screen from last night. she did campaign to a point for barber during this campaign. >> gabby is my friend and she is an inspiration to all

of us. gabby, we love you. and we're -- [applause] and we are so grateful for your leadership and your dedication to our community. bill: barber defeated republican jesse kelly 52-46. both men said they will run for a full term in the fall. she looked terrific yet again last night. martha: who would have ever thought at that day and that horrific shooting she would survive first of all because everyone thought she had not survived initially. to be standing up next to her colleagues on that stage, her recovery has been remarkable one. what an inspiring story for her aide to be taking her place there. bill: keep it rocking in tucson, gabby. well-done. martha: in alabama, the suspect who is wanted in a shooting spree near auburn university is behind bars this morning after finally

surrendering to the police in a dramatic moment last night. his name is desmonte leonard. he has been on the run since saturday. police believe he shot six people, two of them are dead including two former players of the auburn university football team. there are reports that the 22-year-old leonard opened fire after a fight over a woman. the entire campus community is absolutely stunned by what has happened. >> the whole auburn community, the whole auburn family is devastated. in the passing of three young men. it is just hard to put into words the difficulty a lot of people are facing right now. >> what i'm saying really, case like this there is no relief because those boys aren't coming home tonight. martha: leonard faces three counts of capital murder. two other men also facing charges of lying to the police and trying to protect leonard from the authorities. bill: talk about a story that just rocked the

community. that has. jam-packed show just getting started now. look at the video here. a child thrown from a car during a police chase. how the child wound up. only 18 months old there. we'll show it to you in moments. disturbing. martha: awful video. we'll tell you about that in a little while. republicans firing back at a justice department plan to appoint its own people to investigate the recent intelligence leaks. >> i think you're missing the fact that this is a very big deal. better off for the country if you would pick somebody that we all could buy into. >> i do know these people. they are good lawyers. they are tough prosecutors. martha: boy this situation is heating up big-time. senator lindsey graham will join us why he is pushing for something more. bill: also one senator telling the attorney general to resign. his answer? in a moment. as the family of a murdered patrol agent waits for answers into what went

wrong. >> i bet if he lost his son he would think differently. i have trouble with going to the cemetery because he isn't supposed to be there.

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martha: there are some new developments in trayvon martin shooting case. george zimmerman's wife has now been charged with perjury. a florida judge accused shellly zimmerman using small transfers to hide their finances as they tried to get zimmerman released on bond. she faces up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine if she is found guilty. zimmerman is charged with the february shooting death of the florida teenager. bill: there is high drama on the hill. a top republican face-to-face with attorney general eric holder telling him to resign i am immediately. texas senator john cornyn accusing holder of misleading congress when it comes to "operation fast and furious".

steven hayes, senior writer for "the weekly standard", fox news contributor. good morning to you. >> good morning bill. bill: holder's answer was forget about it, i'm staying put. what is your take. >> i'm not surprised that was holder's answer. i'm surprised this hasn't gotten more attention. cornyn calling for resignation of eric holder following calls of for recent ignition of dozens of members of the house of representatives. this isn't being covered. it was on page a-19 in "new york times" buried in a longer story about several issues. strikes me this is pretty big deal. eric holder yesterday in his testimony he is willing to talk to republicans to avoid a constitutional crisis. you have on one hand eric holder acknowledging that we could be facing a constitutional crisis. a senior senator calling for his resignation and most of the news media is not interested in the story. bill: let me get to both of those points in a moment. here is what cornyn wrote though. this is part of what he

said. he writes, the gun-walking scandal has destroyed mr. holder's credibility. he continues, we need an attorney general will put justice before politics. is that typical talk? >> no. i think it is tougher than what you usually hear from john cornyn in particular. i think republicans are very frustrated and their frustration is frankly understandable. you've had the justice department stonewalling on these documents, own cooperation from people who might have knowledge when the justice department knew about the facts in the case. you have had stories that contradict one another. really from the beginning of this inquiry, and you're still not getting cooperation. only now is eric holder suggesting he will sit down and perhaps cooperate because he is potentially facing contempt of congress next vote next week. this is big deal. and it is not being treated as such. bill: that vote in effect is scheduled for june 20th, a week from today. >> right. bill: what do you think republicans do in the house? >> i think republicans will

almost unanimously or overwhelmingingly vote to hold him in contempt. the question is what democrats do? i think that puts democrats in a very difficult position because anybody who followed the facts of this case understands what the justice department is doing. they haven't been forthcoming. they haven't been cooperative. democrats who vote against this contempt of congress will have to answer for that. bill: get to the big point you're making. you believe holder is trying to cut a deal? they will sit down and negotiate this and work it out so there is no contempt of congress charge? >> well, i think he would certainly like to do that. the question is how much is he going to give up? the real question here is, is there, with all of the smoke we've seen, with all the misdirection from the justice department over the past year plus, is there something, you know, in the documents or in the possession of people at the justice department that would be the so-called smoking gun? and in which case i don't think eric holder would ever ayee to give that up. that is the central

question. can he reach some kind of a deal that will please congressional republicans and at the same time not get him in further hot water? seems unlikely to me but i've been wrong before. bill: have republicans suggested they will meet with him to avoid the vote? >> there is some skepticism. there is a discussion whether they will spend their time talking to him about this when they have given him time to be responsive over the course of the year. but i think the fact he is making a public plea puts some pressure on republicans to hear what he is willing now to turn over. bill: if there is contempt charge what then? what follows suit normally on that? >> this is the big question. it is possible there is a contempt charge and it really goes nowhere. it certainly would be a black mark for the president, for the administration, if this were to happen. and particularly if democrats were to join some republicans in voting to hold eric holder in contempt. bill: steve, good to see you. steve hayes in washington. analysis, thank you, sir.

18 minutes past. martha? martha: president obama heads to the key state of ohio tomorrow. he will give a big speech on the u.s. economy. he recently said that the economy he felt was getting a bit better. he said the private sector was fine but what are voters thinking about all of that? some top democratic strategists say the president really needs to change his message in order to win the hearts and minds of people who elected him four years ago. ed rollins weighs in on that. bill: there is this. we have 21 souls on board. three are deceased, end quote. that is what a caller onboard a allegedly sinking yacht said in his mayday call but the coast guard says there is no boat. we will hear those distress calls and we'll talk to a maritime lawyer what the person will face in caught. >> we've had an explosion on board. that's why we're taking on water. i'm in about 3 1/2 feet of water on the bridge right now -- [inaudible] wake up!

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>> as far as back as i can remember i wanted to be a gangster. ♪ . bill: that was the movie that mad him infamous. mobster turned i am fornt doing something inforpt you never thought possible. henry hill immortalized in the movie, goodfellas. he joined the witness protection program but was kicked out for drug dealing. he said he always felt like a marked man even after the men he betrayed were all dead. hill died in los angeles. undisclosed illness. he was 69 years old. henry hill. martha: one of the great movies of all time.

"goodfellas". seeing that little snippet wants me to watch it again. bill: not one of the good mob movies but one of the best movies made. martha: in my top three, absolutely. henry hill, what a life. a lot of stories that man had. all right. this is what we want to bring you too now. there is new progress happening against the devastating wildfires we've been covering throughout the week in the american west. these new pictures are showing the heart-breaking damage that has already been done. in new mexico they're calling that one the little bear fire and it is reducing homes to smoldering ruins. look at these pictures. for some decades of working and building a life and a home were gone in a flash. >> it was hard to believe that it was standing three hours before. and then it was gone. >> just total devastation. a lifetime of work. it's, and at our ige, it is

going to be hard to physically redo it. martha: anita vogel is live in our west coast bureau. bring us up to speed, anita, what is going on with these fires at this point. >> reporter: yeah, hi, there, martha. there are fires burning all over the western part of the country. it is hard to believe but 19 different fires burning in nine different states. it is safe to say the most troubling one right now is called the high park fire. this one in colorado just west of fort collins. it started on saturday apparently from a lightning strike. so far it spread to 68 square miles, destroying about 100 structures and killing one person. a 62-year-old woman who died in her cabin unable to escape the flames. right now there is only 10% containment. >> we're here for the long haul. this fire, no matter what happens on the containment there will still be a long period of time with this. so we're getting those things in place. we feel like we're getting our feet solidly under us.

>> progress, we have black on the map. so we have 10% containment. that's where it starts. every day the containment number will go up as we begin to tie the lines together. crews are working very hard. >> reporter: and the colorado governor has declared a state of emergency making all kinds of federal aid available, about 20 million bucks. martha, boy, do they need it. back to you. martha: that is the colorado situation. the other big fire we mentioned in new mexico, the little bear fire. what is the latest on that, anita? >> reporter: that one is particularly devastating because it already destroyed over 200 homes and other structures. this fire also again, started by a lightning strike over the weekend. firefighters though may be getting the upper hand on this blaze. as of last night it was 35% contained and they're looking to make more progress today. martha, in addition to all the local firefighters there are 4,000 federal firefighters spread out across the western part of the country. back to you. martha: we'll keep an eye on

it with your help. thank you very much. bill: we need moisture. we say it every day. can't come soon enough. top republicans calling for an independent investigation into some of the biggest intelligence leaks we've seen in decades, perhaps ever. some believe they could only have come from inside the white house. >> there is no doubt in my mind if the shoe were on the other foot you and everybody on that side would be screaming having to appoint a special prosecutor that all of us could buy into. given the record of the way you have based, colleagues --, obama and biden, senators this cries out for corrective action. >> we will talk to that man, senator lindsey fram, live -- lindy gram, live, in just three minutes.

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this easy-to-understand guide will answer some of your questions, and help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that's right for you. martha: big story right now in washington. two. republican senators, top senators, are now calling on attorney general eric holder to insure a proper investigation of the recent intelligence leaks by appointing an outside, independent special prosecutor to this case. they claim that the justice department simply can not be impartial by assigning two of its own u.s. attorneys to investigate the obama administration in all of this. eric holder says he does not believe that special counsels work. >> we have moved away from independent counsel model which proved to be not particularly successful in what we have seen since that time, is the use of u.s. attorneys to try to run these matters. u.s. attorneys who

themselves were not involved in the underlying matters. martha: south carolina republican lindsey graham is one of those senators behind that resolution. he was very outspoken about this in that hearing yesterday with eric holder. he is also on the senate armed services and the senate judiciary committee which was business at hand. senator graham, good morning. >> good morning. martha: first, if you could respond to what eric holder said. he said the model for independent counsels has proven that it does not work. >> ridiculous. peter fitzgerald was a u.s. attorney in chicago, outside of washington, who investigated the valerie plame cia outing case and, given the authority of a special counsel, which creates legal structure, infrastructure around the attorney that would prevent them from having political influence levied. the chief of staff of the vice president of the united states in the bush administration wound up being prosecuted by this special counsel.

the abe bra move case they had a special counsel because abramoff was accused of influencing the most prominent people in washington. senator biden and then senator obama wrote a letter to the bush administration urging a special counsel in those two cases. we're talking about five different leaks in the most classified programs in the nation's history, putting people at risk, straining ties with allies and some of the culprits or the suspects include the national security advisor and his team. if there was ever a situation for a special counsel it is now. and this is a bad precedent to set. so i'm urging this attorney general to do what senator obama and senator biden asked of the bush administration. pick somebody outside the system that we all could buy into. martha: i mean as you well know in these stories, in "the new york times" and others, the sources that

were mentioned were administration officials and top national security officials. at the time, "the times" says that the administration never voiced any concerns about that. they never called them ostensibly, who are your sources on this. >> right. martha: how did you get this information? and all of those accounts really were very favorable to the president and the administration. so, do you believe, based on all of that, that these leaks did come from the upper echelon of the administration? >> absolutely. the sources include senior white house officials quoting the president. a review of the sanger book said tom donlan, the national security advisor was the hero of the book and gave a blow by blow description of all the programs in question that mr. sanger had unprecedented access. some of the stories quote the department of justice officials. so yes, this involves people at the highest levels of government and the pattern

is clear. these stories were leaked for political purpose in my view to create an impression that the obama administration, the president, was a decisive national security leader. the reason there was no major pushback by the white house when these operations were being divulged, they liked what they were hearing and they named people. they indicated that the doctor in pakistan who helped us find bin laden. they disclosed that information. he is serving 33 years in jail. this is just a terrible situation that needs a special counsel. martha: as has been pointed out robert gates seems to be one of the people in inner circle in all of that, wants it very clear he was very much against it. in fact he, perhaps did his own leak recently to let everybody know recently that he told tom donlan to shut the blank up about all of this. he was very upset. he crosses both administrations, into the bush administration as well.

i want to get to eric holder's response because he says the obama administration has prosecuted more leaks than any prior administration. he feels that their record is very strong on this. he also feels that these two u.s. attorneys, one, who has been a democratic supporter in the past. the other though was a republican appointee. he believes because of that diversity they will be very fair and they have already jumped on this investigation and have already interviewed holder and mueller at the fbi quite extensively. >> well, one i don't care what he believes. it is what i believe and the public believes. he could pick somebody that i would say yes, that's a good person who's a special counsel outside the political influences of the department of justice. let me tell you, this whole episode wreaks of leaks motivated by politics, coming from the highest level of government. and he said, when i asked him, do you think it was good to have a special counsel in the valerie plame

case. and he said yes. do you agree it was good to have a special counsel in the abramoff case. he said yes. how in the world could all my democratic colleagues including senator biden an obama at the time, every democrat told the bush administration we don't trust you when it comes to investigating valerie plame. we don't trust your administration to go after abramoff. because to many republicans are involved. to expect me and my republicans colleagues to trust this crowd, forget it. martha: one last question, you brought up valerie plame. there have been some comparisons made. is this situation, do you see this situation as more egregious than that? >> 100 times. martha: why? >> because what we've done here, one, we talked about a cyberattack coordinated with the state of israel. in the book the reasoned obama administration wanted to use cyberattack against iranian nuclear program to prevent israel from issuing, going on a military strike. we're talking about a, the underwear bomber case where

we disclosed a double agent supposedly hired by the saudis. we're talking about putting people's lives at risk like the pakistani doctor. we're talking about the double agent families being involved. we're talking about compromising programs with allies like israel. we're talking about every detail of the bin laden raid, seal team six and their families. yes this is exponentially worse. there is no way on god's green earth you're going to convince me this scenario doesn't justify a special counsel when everybody on the democratic side said you needed one for valerie blame and jack abramoff. we'll not let this go. i don't know where the evidence is going to go but i want a process i can trust. i don't trust this process. this is a bad precedent. martha: thank you for being here. we hope you come back again. keep us posted on the developments. senator lindsey graham. bill: based on that it is not going away. there will be more about that. dramatic 911 call from a

man mauled by a brown bear. he was 30 years old. attacked on a hiking trail in alaska. here now the desperate call when he was high up in a tree. listen. >> 911 what is the address of your emergency? >> i was mauled by a brown bear. >> okay. do you need an ambulance? >> yes. >> okay. i'm bleeding bad. >> where are you bleeding from? >> my back, my neck and my lower back. please get an ambulance. >> 911, where is your emergency? >> hi i'm the guy that just got mauled by a brown bear. >> we're getting paramedics. >> i can hear the brown bear still huffing in the trees. i'm i believe to climb a tree. i'm as high up in the tree as i can get. >> stay, okay. stay just in that treat then, if you can hear it, okay. >> how long do you think it will be here? >> it will be a little while. we'll come as quick as he can, okay.

>> i think i'm bleeding quite a bit. bill: wow! took rescuers two hours to reach him. he was taken by a hospital, rather by helicopter to a hospital near anchorage. he is doing just fine. but in the alaska wilderness the brown bears, the grizzly bears, that guy is lucky to be alive. literally climbed a tree to get out of the way!. martha: what a story. bill: he is going to recover. martha: get a look at the markets this morning. the big board is down 48 points. investors reacting to the asian stock markets which have been posting late gains. dow was up 162 on tuesday. getting a bit of a rough start to the day this morning. everybody's focus will be on jamie dimon on capitol hill later this morning as well. markets will watch that one closely. bill: yo-yo keeps going up and down by the day. president obama blaming the bush administration for running up the bill and sticking him with the tab. is that a message that works? terrific panel debates that in moment. >> one of the more gripping

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martha: so here's what is developing right now in "america's newsroom." we are awaiting details on a suspected fatal shooting in buffalo, new york. we're told s.w.a.t. teams are on the scene there in erie medical center. reports say a woman was shot outside that hospital. we'll get you more as soon as we can. senate majority leader harry reid weighing in on the disputed outcome of the man any pacquiao and timothy bradley fight in las vegas. reid, you may not know is former amateur boxer. he supports an investigation into the judges split

decision that made bradley a winner. that was a big talker the other day. graceland first opened their doors to the public 30 years ago this month. since then nearly 18 million guests have visited elvis presley's former home. i'm not one of them. i always have wanted to go to graceland. so maybe we have to plan a road trip. bill: love this elvis song. >> how about "america's newsroom" live at graceland? what do you think about that? ♪ . bill: we needed an injection of the king every day. that pacquiao fight, all bad. martha: they were talking about that before the show. bill: that thing in the same weekend that i'll have another dropped out of the belmont. to graceland we go. martha: i love that idea for the meeting after the show. bill: we'll let you viewers know after the show. president obama pushing back on claims his administration ballooned our national debt. he blames the guy before him. >> if they start giving you a bunch of facts and figures

suggesting that it is true, what they're not telling you they baked all this stuff into the cake. all this stuff is baked in with all the interest payments for it. like somebody goes to a restaurant, orders a big steak dinner, martini, all that stuff, and then, just as you're sitting down, they leave. [laughter] and accuse you of running up the tab. bill: so here we go with a message. we have communications advisor of the vice president winston group. alan colmes, radio show. what is going on. >> hey, bill. bill: all about the message. i'll doing fine, alan. good morning to you. kristin, does the message sell. >> no, it does not. obama in 2009 says we had these extreme emergency spending measures. but then doesn't explain why he effectively ordered up two more steaks. two more years to match that level of spending. not to mention when democrats held the purse strings in bush's final two

years in office they didn't really have any complaints about that level of spending some this message has absolutely no credibility. backward looking. not forward-looking. bill: to our friend alan colmes we go. by the way, there is these stories written the democrats want to change this message. are you one of them? >> well, no. i mean this is one much many messages. this is one narrative. there are many narratives going on concurrently. don't forget we're still many months away from the election but the truth is that the, republicans did run up the tab. they ran up a tab with iraq war, something president obama did not support. they ran up a tab weather bush tax cuts that we couldn't pay for the things we were trying to do. something that obama's been trying to change. does he not have a right to respond to attacks against him and put in context what he inherited? bill: let's look at the numbers here. i will let the two of you go at it, okay? >> okay. bill: here is what we find. the bush total, 4.9 trillion added over eight years. the obama total, 5.1 trillion added in just over

three years. another chart for you. do we have it, folks? waiting on it. you will see the bar graph here for the bush years. green, green, green, green. then you see 3 1/2 bars for the obama years. the reason why the fourth one has changed is because that's when the fiscal year shifted over from the bush years to the obama years. so i ask the two of you, what is the truth, kristin? >> what is completely ridiculous, for instance, take the bush tax cuts. democrats love to talk about how terrible the bush tax cuts were. think reauthorized them in 2010. the democrats plan isn't to eliminate all of them. just to change the top bracket. if they talk about how it created this huge deficit they don't actually want to repeal all of them either. they're blaming policies like that. like the war in afghanistan they have continued and continued to support. >> well i don't support --. bill: some democrats are buying into that message. >> i don't support the war in afghanistan. bill: what do you think about carville said about

the fact he is worried this president needs maximal empathy? here is a guy who knows about empathy. he worked for bill clinton. >> that is good point. we can't take for granted the fact that obama will walk back into the white house but, i would like to know what did the bush tax cuts accomplish? did they bring us prosperity and jobs we were promised? besides, what is romney planning? he says he will cut. won't tell us where he will cut. wants to cut taxes we know that. other than going after obama and criticizing, what is his vision? we haven't seen one. you can't get elected without your own vision for what you want to do with the country. bill: still have to figure out whether or not the message is going to sell. >> what is the message? what is romney's message? bill: middle class america has been ripped apart. what will mitt romney going to say? >> go ahead. >> mitt romney's message we can do better. >> what does th mean, do better?. >> mitt romney released economic plan last summer? >> what is the plan. >> obama criticized republicans saying their campaign plan could fit on

140 characters. his plan was a 59-point plan. over 100 pages. actually republican communicator. that is kind of a problem. you have to sell your message more simply. >> we can do better. that is great slogan. bill: alan, you have to pick up kristin's dinner tab. that is what a gentleman does. >> as long as he doesn't overorder like the republicans did we'll be fine. >> i'll be there. bill: see you next time. martha. martha: there is a new prediction out this morning on the rising cost of health care. so if the president's health care overhaul does stand, and we're waiting for the supreme court jury decision, supreme court decision i should say any day now the potential hit to your wallet. bill: a potential distress call and costly rescue operation and it may have been the someone's idea of a massive joke. we'll play the call for you in moments. you will hear that. wer surge, let it blow your mind. [ male announcer ] for fruits, veggies and natural green tea energy...

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martha: we're now getting a distress calls september from the yacht that was reportedly fire and sinking 1 miles off the new jersey coast. remember this story -- 17. the coast guard said this emergency actually turned out to be a hoax and that it cost taxpayers some $300,000 to respond to this. four emergency personnel raced to, lots of emergency personnel i should say, racing to the sandy hook site in new jersey. they believed dozens of lives were in danger during what they thought was the emergency. let's listen to the 911 call that came in on monday. >> u.s. coast guard. motor yacht blind date, how do you copy. >> we have three deceased. nine injured. we had explosion on board. that's why we're taking on water. i'm about 3 1/2 feet of water on the bridge right now. so i'm going to bail as long as i can before i have to

leave. >> we have four on board. 20 in the water right now? >> i have three deceased on board. nine injured because of the explosion we've had. i'm in three feet of water on the bridge. i will stay on the radio as long as i can before i have to go overboard. martha: what a call. let's bring on a maritime attorney. mike, clearly from the phone call this is somebody who knows the water. understands boating. you know, and their voice is so clear. one of my main thoughts, anybody who knows the person who perpetrated the hoax will no instantly that is them? >> you would hope so certainly. the level of was definitely clear. i thought a little bit alarming how calm the person sounded. if this earn pen is in distress, people are dead, people are burned you expect to hear a little bit more of a fear in the voice. i listened to the concordia tapes of captain. you had terribly frenetic person on one end in italy and this calm, cool collected person on the

other end. look, hindsight is 20, 20 you would suspect something at that point. martha: $300,000 spent on this effort to find this burning yacht in the middle of the ocean that simply was not there in the end. does that seem like a high number to you? and what do you think, what are the scenarios? what was this person up to? >> that is certainly the highest number i have ever seen in the research i've done. typically you see a range of 50,000 to 100,000. but the reason for that is very simple. because of the location for the call off the coast of new jersey immediately implicated the coast guard and the new york and new jersey both fire and police departments as well as emergency response teams from different hospitals. so you have this massive force really just sort of a geographical happenstance of where it happened to be. but no, i have never seen a number this high but in terms of possible theories, look i'm not involved in the investigation, martha. but you know --. martha: up against a break.

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gold on sachs club. he's been playing the defense eating dirt for weeks. i sinned against you, it's our fault. the senators will be long on throat clearing and finger wagging and grandstanding, but have short on news or any kind of real revelation. i think diamond may be too smart for that. martha: i think you may be right about that. this is a 2 billion-dollar loss initially, it ballooned to the $4 billion range most likely. >> so what, $4 billion. martha: this is a bank that has 2.2 trillion -- >> dollars in assets. that's like you lost 4 bucks on a $22 investment. we going to do this because it's good theatre, good politics. is it any surprise that the

democratic senate is running this hearing, and the democrats have been bashing banks and blaming banks for the economy's ills? it strikes me as comical, the thought that any senator, republican or democrat on that panel today would come up with any smart way to do a better job at regulating risks than jaime diamond at jpmorgan. they survived it. taxpayer money wasn't involved. this is not really a mountains for the senate to look at all. martha: that is exactly the question i was going to ask you. this was a trading loss, not customer funds, that has been absorbed by jpmorgan and has not affected any consumer money, any people who have their money invested in any way with jpmorgan, unlike the john

corzine situation. >> where they took customer money, they used it and it disappears. everyone says this is a sign that the banks are too big. no, this is a sign that it's really good that jp morgue gone was as big as it was to be able to withstand this stupid error. the fact that errors can be made, the question is do you want -- martha: dennis, you've got your protestors in action here in this room, and they are being escorted out of all of this. [chanting] martha: i want to ask you one more question in terms of jaime diamond the person. he's known to have a pretty hot temper and he has said pretty bold things. these one of the things people love about jamie diamond. do you expect him to be he will well behaved in the course of this. >> this is the reason to tune in gavel to gavel. will he finally blow his top? i'm sure he's sick of the demonizing and grandstanding and

watch and see. martha: he was very supportive of president obama and they have expressed dissatisfaction of being called fat cats and the like. >> i'm sure he's dead to the obama administration now. martha: that may be. dennis thank you so much. this will be fascinating. we can catch dennis at noon today on the fox business network. we'll be keeping an eye on this as well. if it gets hot in there we'll certainly take you to it as well. thanks very much, dennis. bill: i want to get to fox news alert right now, there is a hospital now on lockdown after a deadly shooting. reports say at least one woman was struck in the head and killed at the eeerie county medical center, that's buffalo, new york. swats teamswat teams on the scene. the shooting happened outside of a build on hospital ground but away from a main building, which could suggest there were fewer

patients. we'll keep our eye on that throughout the morning here. in the meantime president obama set to deliver what the white house is calling a major economic speech tomorrow in ohio. this as some in oeus ow his own party are calling for a change in message. he was chairman of the huckabee campaign in 2008. how are you doing? >> good. how are you. bill: i'm doing fine. democrats are saying the mets average is wrong. you say it's not the message. >> it's the policies. at the end of the day the president -- he's a tremendous speaker and he gave these soaring speeches about he was going to be different. he can't runaway from his policies. they've failed and failed miss plea. you can't say it's going to be different in a second term when it's basically the same thing. eye not enough to say bush left me a mess and romney is just the

same thing. bill: on that point, why do you think that does not snell. >> because at the end of the day you're responsible. when you win the presidency, and it's been four kwraoerbgs it will byears now. it's his policies, his congress in the beginning of his administration. and he got pretty much everything he wanted. he passed a healthcare plan that 53% of the country is not moving and the court will probably throw out. i think at the end of the day americans will lose confidence in him. bill: you hear democrats start the chaf forecast at this whole idea. james carville says it, these voters are not convinced we are headed in the right direction. they have a very realistic view of the long road back and the struggles of the middle class and the current narrative about progress misses the opportunity to connect and point forward. what carville talks about is having empathy. he worked for bill clinton.

is barack obama capable of that empathy. >> he's very disconnected from the ordinary people and the congress. this is a guy who basically takes his own counsel and most of the positions that he's taken have been his own positions. now he has to go out and defend them. it's not the campaign he'd like to run but at the same time there aren't policies or successes that he can go out and make his case in the country with. bill: could he be effective or not. >> there is no question he will give some great speeches and inspire his base. whether he'll convince enough to give him a majority i don't think so. bill:ed rollins, thank you for your time. seven minutes past the hour. martha: we are awaiting a verdict in the roger clemens retrial. closing arguments yesterday in that case again the seven-time cy young award winner following 26 days of testimony. the rocket, as he is known accused of lying to congress

about use of performance enhanced drugs. shan and breams live in washington on that. exactly what is the jury deliberating on this. >> there are six different charges. we are talking about perjury, obstruction of justice and also making false statements. the bottom line is, if clemens was convicted on all of these charges he would be facing up to 30 years in prison and a maximum fine of $1.5 million. we do not expect that to happen even if he is convicted on some or all of those charges. the sentencing guidelines would probably fall store in the range of 15 to 21 months behind bars but he could go completely free. that is all in the jury's hands now. they had a brief meeting when they got the case yesterday, they'll resume their deliberations this afternoon around 1:30 eastern time, martha. martha: a lot of folks keeping a close eye on this. which witness testimony, shannon, do you think is going to be the most critical in this case? >> well, of course you have brian mcnamee who was a trainer an was the one who was accused

of and has talked about injecting roger clemens with these different performance-enhancing drugs. its not about whether or not he use he the drugs it's about whether he lied to congress about using them. mcimcnamee's testimony is critical. you have his former teammate andy pettitte who was on the stand in this trial as he was in the previous one. in the past he talked about a conversation in which clemens told him about using drugs. in this case he was pressed, he said it's 50-50 he misunderstood. we'll see what the jury has to say. martha: thank you so much. bill: prepare to pay more at doctor's office. the price of healthcare is about to go up and you can blame the new healthcare law for that. we'll ask a doctor in-house about that. also there is this. >> on what legal ground are you withholding that email? the president can't claim executive privilege to withhold that email, is that correct? martha: senator charles grass

rejoins us live, why u.s. attorney general eric holder says he is now will to, quote, compromise in the fast and furious investigation. bill: also a close look at this video here. ha child thrown from a minivan during a police case. she is 18 months old. we'll tell you how this wound up, disturbing video in a moment here on "america's newsroom."

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snatching purses. bill: when you see the minivan go and she literally falls out of the window and avoids any collision with the fan. thankfully that woman was around. i don't know if it was the month or who it was. a hospital on lockdown after a deadly shooting. a new video into "america's newsroom." [sirens ] bill: we are told the shooting happened outside of a building on hospital grounds but away from the main building. the gunman is at large. here is and eyewitness just into us as well. roll this. >> they told me there was a shooting, they locked down all the units. she believes there was a second shooting also in another tower aside from the initial shooting, and just not to worry, that she is okay and she is safe and hopefully, you know, it will all workout. >> are you trying to get her on the phone? have you been able to communicate with her in any way? >> only texting. she said she can't use the phone. they don't want anybody to make any loud noises.

i've just been texting her back and forth, just making sure she is okay, and that she's safe. >> obviously. a tough situation for you right now being out here. getting that word obviously makes you feel a little more secure that things are going as planned in there as best they can? >> yes, they are. the only keurpbs i asked he concern is i asked her if they had apprehended anybody, she said no, there is still a code silver, the individual is still loose. they haven't apprehended him, that's all i know. >> did she give you any idea about the police presence in that unit she's in. >> the unit she is in is locked down, she has no idea who is in there, she did assure me it would be tuft to get into her unit that makes me feel a lot better. bill: ongoing at the moment in buffalo, new york. a woman who answered the phone at the administration office according to ap says no other information is being released right now. a police helicopter is circling

over the medical center's campus which includes a hospital with 550 beds. imagine a hospital on lockdown, how much access they can get the patients. martha: you feel good you can talk to your wife but you feel better when she is out of that. we'll stay on top of that. u.s. attorney general eric holder now suggesting that he is willing to compromise, was the word that he used, and demands that he hands over thousands more documents in what has become known as the botched gun running sting, fast and furious. here is the ranking member on the senate judiciary committee, senator charlie grassley questioning him yesterday. >> on what legal ground are you withholding that email? the president can't claim executive privilege to withhold that email, is that correct? >> let me just say this. we have reached out to chairman issa, members of the leadership

on the house side to try to work our way through these issues. we've had, i think, sporadic contacts, and we are prepared -- i am prepared to make compromises with regard to the documents that can be made availablement now, i, myself, am are offering to sit down with the speaker, the chairman, whatever, to work our way through this in an attempt to avoid a constitutional crisis. martha: is there a big development in this or not. iowa senator charles grassley joins me. welcome. good to have you here. is this a big development? does that get us somewhere in terms of these documents? >> well, if he's willing to produce those documents in the next ten days i would say, yes, it has avoided the confrontation that he's created. he talks about a constitutional crisis, but remember this is a constitutional crisis that he

created because he's been stonewalling for a year and a half on delivering these documents. martha: the big question, of course, is what the department of justice knew, what he knew, and perhaps what the white house may have known as the details started to unfold on this fast and furious sting, which allowed guns to go into mexico and ended up hurting a lot of people, including border agent brian terry. so, i mean, what is the level of satisfaction that you would need to have, or that darrell issa might need to have that what has been turned over is enough to satisfy the subpoena? >> okay. by two counts, either 80,000 pages, or 140,000 pages, and it doesn't matter which one you use, under one count they've given us about 6,000 pages, and under another count they gave us about 7,000 pages. so when you get right down to it, if you want to quantify the answer to your question, when they cough up the other 74,000 pages. martha: nothing short of all of the documents that pertain to

this case would satisfy this subpoena in your opinion, right? >> yeah. i would be willing to compromise to this extent, the extent to which we got all those documents, and they had certain restrictions on the use of those documents, i would be willing to accept those restrictions, but everybody on the committee has to have access to that information. because we're in our constitutional role of oversight to make sure that the checks and balances of government is working and here we had a man killed and the family doesn't even know the information about it and they haven't arrested anybody yet in regard to that, no one has been charged. martha: what is the timeframe on this compromise that was suggested by eric holder if. >> i think the timeframe would be when speaker boehner schedules this for vote in the house of representatives, and it's my understanding that that

is going to be the week after next. martha: okay, yeah july 20th is the contempt proceeding date. so that would -- that could force a lot of quick movement on the part of compromise between eric holder and leadership. we'll see what happens. senator grassley, thank you very much for the update, we appreciate it. >> thank you. bill: president george herbert walker bush number 41, his life in his own word. we'll talk to the director of this new documentary right here. >> it was, you know, it was enormous, and a source of great pride for the family. martha: and a horrific story to tell you about coming out of texas. a father beats a man to death with his bare hands. why police are saying that it may have been justifiable homicide. >> especially with a 4-year-old. that is terrible. that's pretty bad. >> i don't know all the facts

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martha: mother nature is tearing up the south right now. wicked weather wreaking havoc in parts of texas and alabama. thunderstorms drops tons of monster-size hail outside of amarillo texas, shattering windows in the process of that. widespread damage in alabama, thousands without power as storms rolled through there. the roof of the electric and water utility was completely ripped off. no reports of any injuries thankfully and surprisingly in all of that. bill: tis the season, right? now to the father who beats to deat death with his bare hands a man he said was molesting his

daughter. >> he told me it wasn't his intent for this individual to lose his life. he was just protecting his daughter. bill: so no charges, and the local prosecutor is saying that will be for a grand jury to sort out. we have a criminal defense attorney and a former sex crimes prosecutor, nickle, good morning tnicole, and welcome. you don't think they will indict this man. >> the law says you can use deadly force to defend a person when they are under deadly force attack, and you can assume that a person who is attempting to rape a 4-year-old is having deadly force used against them. this father was well within his rights to absolutely use deadly force. even if he felt he wasn't using deadly force and the result was the man died he's perfectly within his rights to do that. bill: the d.a. is still going to go to the grand jury. the grand jury can do whatever

it wants. >> the grand jury can do whatever it wants but it typically has a great deal of respect for what the district attorney has to say. most district attorney's offices have a policy of presenting cases where a person dies at the hand of another human being to a grand jury. the district attorney will go in, layout the facts and let the citizens decide based on those facts, what if anything ought to be done. >> you said it speaks volumes that the d.a. doesn't think there is enough evidence to charge the man? >> i think it does. they can charge a person with a crime when they believe a crime has taken place. it is not necessary that a person be sent to the grand jury for that decision prior to a charging decision. so, if the district attorney says, look i've heard all the facts of this case, and i still don't think that there is enough information or reason to charge this person with a crime, then probably that is going to be the opinion that that district attorney gives to the grand jury as well. bill: one more comment here and we heard it in lead in to you by

the shiver. his level of remorse is apparently very high. does that factor into this. and if so in what way? >> well, it certainly can. it is a terrible tragedy for the man who ended up having to kill another human being to protect his daughter, because he's going to have to live with this for the rest of his life, and surely that kind of an emotional thing will have an impact on the grand jurors who hear the case. it doesn't make a whole loft difference from a legal standpoint because he was within his rights to use deadly force to protect his 4-year-old. bill: is this some sort of stand your ground law that texas has, or the argument that you layout, do you think that would apply in every state in. >> the arguments that i'm laying out would apply just about anywhere. i can't think of anywhere it wouldn't apply. if someone is using deadly force against you or you are tkpefrpbding someone who has deadly force being used against them you are allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself

or that person. clearly this 4-year-old continue defend herself and her father had that right as they would anywhere in the state. bill: the grand jury will convene within days. >> sometimes they take days, sometimes they take months to get a case in. i have a feeling this will go in sooner than later. bill: nicole debore thank you. martha: apparently jerry lewis was rushed to the hospital after collapsing on stage last night minutes before he was supposed to hand tom cruise the friar's club award. he's 86-year-old. the report is that he collapsed due to low blood sugar right before he was supposed to take the stage. we are continuing to see what we get in terms of new information on his condition. we will bring that to you as soon as we get it. bill: he is an american warrior too. america's spending on healthcare is about to jump. the new healthcare law might be

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martha: breaking news situation right now. there is a hospital that is on lockdown after a deadly shooting and laura ingle is following the story for us in the newsroom right now. what is the latest? >> reporter: we are just getting word of this lockdown, and we're getting that word from the "associated press," that police have cornered off this hospital that we're looking at here. this is the eerie county medical center where a person reportedly had been fatally shot. the medical center is completely locked down, no one is going in or coming out. a s.w.a.t. team on the scene after reports of shots being fired. it was a woman who was shot to death at the hospital around 8:15 this morning. we are now hearing it may have happened inside of a building that houses outpatient services and offices. we understand that this was away from the main building, but as you can see a very hectic scene right now. the shooter, we have been told, remains at large. this is a 65-acre campus.

400 patients at any given time. over call over 2,000 employees work at this hospital. unclear how many people are there now, at least over a thousand from what we've been told. we have been hearing from a couple of the hospital spokes people there who have come out to say they have plans for disasters. they have great confidence in the people they have trained for these types of emergencies. of course a very scary situation there, complete lockdown, no one is going in or out as they look for a shooter who is at large who has reportedly shot at least one person, and that person is dead. martha. martha: a scary and volatile situation right now. thank you, laura. bill: there is a new forecast for the future of the healthcare industry. economists predicting a 7-point 4% increase in spending on healthcare by the jeer 2014 if the president's overhaul is fully implemented. 2014 is the year it's expected to. dr. marc siegl fox news medical

a team, professor at langome medical center. good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: we have graphics to show folks. but before i get into that you believe that over use is an issue here. >> here is what i mean by over use. we don't have sticker shock, bill. when you add a new patient to insurance if they don't know what these things cost all they know is the premium, and they may see their premium rise but they don't know why. martha and i talked a couple of weeks ago about how some hospitals are charging an insurance company $4,000 for a cat scan when you can pay 250 out of your pocket. patient don't realize that. things like health savings accounts where you know what you're paying for are being getting rid of. in 2014 you'll get 16 million more medicaid patients being added on. that is going to cost a fortune. people are going to go to the state exchanges if the law

states in and they'll get subsidized insurance. there will be a problem -- and all the young people that are going to be added who are going to say, oh, i have insurance now, i'm going to go right to the doctor. all of that cost a tremendous amount of money. bill: here is the information we have, 2014, 7.4%. that is a spike in the year 2014. but even if you keep -- well the system the way it is right now, both systems level off toward the year 2020 and the spending still increases, so based on this information there are no breaks. >> no matter what. i should add that. even if the law is voted out, even if the law goes away we still have a problem because we have 70 million baby boomers being added to medicare. the projections are by 2021 you'll see $4.5 trillion spent on healthcare, which is one fifth of the gdp. it's an unbelievable number and it is based on over use. because people use insures when they don't need it, they use it

when they are not sick, when they are worried. doctors afraid of malpractice are ordering tests that patients don't need. tests are overcharged for. all of this is where the reform -- bill: that goes back to your point with sticker shock. there has been a three-year slow down in healthcare spending. >> i can explain that. bill: why is that? >> these because of the recession. people are staying home. they can't even afford the co-pay. if you're thinking you may lose your job you're not going to go to the doctor for a basic service. you're going to call them on the phone. i get more and more phone calls, people don't want to come in they don't want to pay the co-pay, that's because of the economy. bill: once the economy improves healthcare costs are going to go up. >> you bet that is true. bill: and with the healthcare law if it stands in the u.s. supreme court, what do you have? >> you have a perfect storm. they are greecing the wheels. i want you to derstand when i just said people have to pay to go to see the doctor under obamacare you don't. they are getting rid of the copays, getting rid of the payments out-of-pocket. they are going to come in whenever they want, if i can see them.

and i've said before on this show, we have a doctor shortage. i may not be available to see them. they may go to the emergency room. that jacks healthcare costs up even more. bill: millions and millions of americans don't see a bill, they are immune to the cost of the system. >> they have no idea, and they really should know. and the only way to get them to know is to have them payout of pocket as many other countries do. bill: doctor, thank you. great to see you. martha: a freak accident led to a freak infection, and today there is a glimmer of hope for a young woman who is battling a rare flesh-eating bacteria. bill: also a look inside the amazing life of george h.w. bush. we'll talk to the director of the new documentary about our 41st president. >> i don't think the mother liked me very much, but the father did, which is important. and barbara did, which is most important. and so we fell in love. old fashioned, falling in love. having an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation

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bill: we are 18 minutes before the hour. doctors saying a georgia woman battling flesh-eating bacteria should be out of intensive care soon. amy copland's left leg, her other foot and both hands have been amputated. the study of diagnostic imaging like cat scans and mr eurbs's doubling since the mid 1990s, heightening fears that all the increased radiation exposure could raise the increase of cancer. verizon is undertaking a massive overhaul on its plans. customers can use for the amount of data while getting unlimited calls and text messages, and the data can be shared with multiple devices. >> when was it like to see your sonny elected president. >> very emotional for me, a very proud father. the first time it's happened, i guess, in the history of our

country, except for the adams. but, you know it was enormous, and a source of great pride for the family, for the father. martha: very nice moment there. that was former president george h.w. bush recounting his life in a new documentary that for the first time tells the story of the 41st president of the united states in his own words. president bush celebrated his 88th birthday yesterday he did with a special screening of hbo's film 41. they did that near his home in maine. the director of 41 is here and it makes its debut tomorrow. good to have you here, jeffery, welcome. what surprised you the most about this project in. >> all reality just how humble he is and how private he is for being a poll advertise. for a man wh a politician. for a man who doesn't care about

shaping his legacy, he says historians will decide that. and he likes to stay in the background. martha: there is no biography, he didn't write his memoirs. this is really a document for history. did you feel that responsibility of telling his story, and how did that kind of weigh on you at that moment when you had that opportunity to really get in there and tell the story? >> i think the number one thing is that we were able to have -- for the first time in history, the opportunity to have a president of the united states sit down to tell a story in his own words about his life. and that alone is a very fascinating thing, because we are not worried about shaping history, because the film is about his life, and we are not here to go in-depth about the presidency. that's problem below for somebody else. our goal was to let people updz and to get to know him, to see what makes him tick, what makes him emotional, what makes him have a great sense of humor. martha: you talk about his

humility and that's the thing that always strikes me when you listen to george h.w. bush. he is a humble man and that is an important value for him, you can tell to maintain that, you talk about the personal side, we want to play another clip from the movie that is very personal about the great love story that is barbara and h.w. bush. let's listen to this. >> i was at a holiday dance. here was this beautiful girl. she was the life of the party, and dancing, and smiling, and i said who is that? they said that's barbara pierce. i got up my nerve to dance. they started playing a waltz. i can't waltz. we sat out, and we chatted, and i called her the next day and took her out. her father with us a very successful publisher, the head of ma call corporation. i don't think the mother liked

me very much, but the father did which is important, and barbara did which is most important. and so we fell if love. old fashioned falling in love. martha: he's an emotional person. we've seen the tears when he talks about his son, and his son when he talks about his father. what struck you about the emotional side? you look at this man, ambassador to china head of the cia, he really does not shy away from expressing himself at all. >> no, he sort of wears his emotion on his sleeve. i think that's what makes him feel. martha: talk to me a little bit about his relationship with barbara and what it was like. you've got even to know them through the course ever this project. what do you think of them, and what surprised you about them in. >> i think they have a great family, and i think the biggest thing is just their family, and how big it is. i mean i have a small family, it's difficult to get everybody together and when we do everybody is arguing. they have such a huge family and

they congregate become to this place called walkers point where they want to be. i'm sure they have their own personal problems but they love to be together. martha: the significance of that place, walkers point, which i have seen and it's a stunning as to the out on a promontory in maine, how meaningful is that place to him in his life. >> i think that's where his soul is, the water, the boat, the hoerpblgs the kids everything home, the kids, i think that's where he's most relax -d. martha: he said he can't do all the things he used to be able to do. he likes to drive, did he take you out on the boat. >> yeah, we were on the boat. it's pretty difficult going 70 miles an hour down the atlantic holding a camera. martha: i imagine it is. you managed to keep it pretty steady. he's 88 years old an has had trouble with his legs, his wife has talked about that. how special is it that you were able to sort of capture this at this point in his life?

>> i think because it took us two years to make, and because he's a moving target, it's not like you can sit down and do this all within a week, because of that the million many was able to breathe. what i mean by that, you see him in the beginning of the film he's walking with a cain and hobbling, and at end of shows back up at the white house in a wheelchair. had we done that all at once there is no way we would have that perspective in the film. martha: thank you for sharing part of the story for us. we look forward to seeing it. it starts tonight, right. >> tomorrow night. martha: tomorrow night on hbo. you can catch 41 in its debut tomorrow night. bill: 9:00 eastern time. congratulations. a fight for religious liberty. an urgent meeting to make their voices heard. you will hear from them in a moment. bacon kind of makes everything better, doesn't it? a decadent dessert coming to a fast-food menu near you.

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martha: big story of the day. could be the most ebbs itsing combo in fast food since french fries and ketchup, folks. bacon and ice cream debuting you at a burger king near you. part of the summer barbecue menu. bacon crumbles, ice cream, carmel, chocolate. 510 calories. 18 grams of fat in that big boy, bill hemmer. 61 grams of sugar, do not tell dr. siegel if you decide to eat

one of those. bill: the doctor is on the line, by the way. i'm a big fan of bacon but that is a bit gros,. martha: it's one thing if it's just been cooked bacon. i don't know how burger king is going to pull that off, if it's a little soggy or yesterday's bacon. bill: folks at home when you try and email us and let us know how it is you can be the taste tester. martha: we're going to go try it. bill: america's catholic bishops beginning three days of meeting today, expected to top the agenda the i shall you've religion freedom, religion correspondent lauren green is live in atlanta. what is expected today, lauren, good morning to you. >> good morning. the 300 bishops gathered here in atlanta for this meeting there is a sense of urgency as never before. as you said top on the agenda is the threat to religion liberty. for them it's how to make their voices heard. the three-day meeting opened with mass at atlanta's basilica

of the saked heart of jesus. key to the bishops the right to express their faith outside of church walls. that compels more than 40 catholic parishes and institutions to file a federal lawsuit a few weeks ago. the spark that began it all is the health and human services mandate requiring employers to offers contraceptives and other benefits that they say violate church teachings. the august deadline to come employ has put their battle on the fast track. >> we are looking to take all the steps we can within the system, civil disobedience is a very last resort, not a first resort. >> but it is a resort in? we are not taking it off the table. >> bishops are also setting up a network of information to disperse through the parishes nationwide so they can get the faithful involved.

bill: they say this meeting goes beyond the birth control mandate do, they not? >> it's also about how -- the bishops say the fight is also about how you define freedom of religion. what defines a church. take a listen. >> we can't live with the definition that excludes us, excludes our schools, our hospitals, our catholic charities, our sial service from being a ministry of the church. and i suspect that more and more we are being heard. >> they are also preparing for this night of freedom beginning june 21st, involves a lot of activities, prayers, leading up to july 4th. bill: their voice is significant too especially in this election year. lauren green, thank you, live in atlanta, we'll be in contact. martha: how is president obama doing with voters in the middle class? there are some revealing new polls that say that he may be having a tough time with that group. you'll see those polls and decide for yourself in a fair & balanced debate. i go ahead of y?

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>> congratulations to the l.a. kings. they are the stanley cup champions. how about that? [cheers and applause] wow, first time in their 45-year history. this is really brought the city together. it's great when l.a. citizens and illegal immigrants can join together to celebrate a win by a bunch of canadians. that is fantastic. jenna: i'm said because my devils lost. hard to say they put up a good fight. next time, devils. they had a great season. they may pass the rangers that is something toe feel good about right? bill: you have bragging rights over everybody in the studio. martha: that's all i can do. bill: we're going on the radio with kilmeade in a few minutes here. martha: one of our favorite times of the week. bill: we don't know where brian's head is. martha: "happening now"

starts right now. we'll see you back here tomorrow. have a good day. jon: top democratic strategists record thely out with a new warning. the president's campaign message, they say, not resonating with voters. karl rove is here with his take. jenna: jon, how did one wall street firm manage to lose $2 billion in a matter of days? that is the big question. head of jpmorgan chase taking tough questions on capitol hill. what jamie dimon is saying about the health of our country's big banks. jon: also a nice hike ruined big-time. a man severely mauled by alaska's version of a grizzly bear. we have the chilling 911 call and the whole scary story. all that plus breaking news "happening now.". a fox news alert. right now on waking up without a home. that is the devastating reality for hundreds of families out west where those wildfires continue raging out of control in several states. go