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>> bill: caution you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. is your child special? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. one of problems america is having is that many of us believe that we are special and that society owes us respect and prosperity. that is why so many americans support the entitlement system. all over the nation public schools are concerned about student's self-esteem. that has been going on for quite some time now. even public schools that say national testing is biased if some of the students fail. you may have heard of david mccollough. he wrote a best seller and john adams. his son has been teaching high school for 26 years. he said this to the graduating class of well in massachusetts.
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>> you are not contrary or special. contrary to what the soccer trophy suggests and the glowing 7th grade report card and despite every asur ranse of nice mr. rogers and your batty anda silvia or how often your eternal. ed crusader has swooped in to save you, you are nothing special. you have been pampered and coveted and bubble wrapped. if everyone is special then no one is. >> after he said that he was hammered. >> , but also praised in some quarters. talking points believes that students need to hear the stern message. america is a very competitive place. nobody is going to hand you money except the federal government and those funds will by paltry. in the private sector you must prove yourself to be special. few will care if your feelings
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are hurt. performance is what counts. many american students are not prepared for the real world. the old saying is life is hard and then you die. but in america slow death is becoming very common. because some of us don't want to compete. don't want to work hard. don't want to be honest. and sober. but those things are necessary if you are to prosper in this country. david mccollough should be applauded and his message should be echoed by our nation's leaders. and this is the memo. now, for the top stories tonight. joining us from miami, a psychiatrist and psychologist and author of the book when to worry how to tell if your teen needs help and what to do about it. so dr. boesky you have problems with mccollough's presentation, correct? >> i do. i think we have a problem with teen entitlement but this was not the time nor the place.
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this was the one day to celebrate the four years of achievement. let me he say if he made the speech to the parents i would have no problem with it. tell them to stop protecting kids, rescuing them and keeping them from failing. that is no problem. this is their one day to go out there in this tough economy, this tough job market we need to build them up not criticize them and minimize them before going out there. >> bill: how do you see it? >> bill, i really couldn't disagree more. i think that we are sending them the wrong message to tell them that they are special. i think we need to be much much more realistic. we are living in the egg shell generation. unlike humpty-dumpty we have to keep them to put themselves back together again. >> i wadnd say on the big day but that is the key on the big day. >> bill: mccollough he had one shot at it and he took it. i have done these speeches and
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sometimes i'm tough and sometimes i'm not it depends on the crew. i leave every human being has the potential to be special. i believe in god and god gives us all individual talents every one of us. even people with severe disabilities. everybody has a talent. that is one of the reasons i believe in god. not a lot of random stuff going on there and you have the potential to be special. to do that in order to develop it is suffering, discipline, and all the things that it takes to get in a position to really be special. now, dr. boesky, i don't believe that is being taught in the public school system and i think mccollough is correct in telling the students you been misguided. they haven't been who honest. if you take the entitlement mentality out to the free marketplace you are not going to be special. >> bill, no way. >> bill: go ahead. >> you can talk about the schools all you want but starts at home. as long as the parents are the
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ones who continue to. >> bill: that is a copout because there are bad parents and the schools are the last line of defense. >> we need to be talking to the parents not just to the schools. >> bill: you are copping out, doctor. >> dr. boesky. >> bill: go ahead. >> the school is spending as much time with them if not more than the parents are. the school has to take some responsibility in this, too. we are teaching our kids that their parents are going to do their homework for them and this very to learn to stand or fall on their own two feet. >> it is the parent doing the homework for them. that is my point. >> bill: can you hear me? you can? all right. you are copping out. and here is why. there are bad parents. many derelict parents. many parents who are irresponsible. you can't fall back on that. the public school system is designed as the last line of defense. and what is happening in this
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country is a profound change. we are becoming a dependent people here and the reason we are becoming dependent is because of the public school system failing to tell americans what is necessary not only for their own personal success but for the success of their country. they don't say it. they are afraid of it. and they are cowardly. and that is what is happening, madam. let her and then you can address it. go ahead. >> i actually agree with you, bill. i think we need to be focusing on what they need to hear and not what they want to hear and telling them they are special is only going to reduce the level of empathy and increase the level of narcissism. >> you don't need to sit there. we are not saying he should be telling them they are special. he shouldn't be basically saying you are not like any one else. i guarantee there are kids at that school taking ap honors
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classes. he is the one it who generalized and said none of you have done everything. what you have done in the last four years. >> bill: they are not special yet. >> you don't think if they have given back to the community and excelled at athletics that they are not different than someone who hasn't. >> bill: there are few children who have reached the level of being called special. it takes a full education and accomplishment to give back to your country. and you are right, lisa. lisa just hit it. what makes a person special is what they give back to other human beings. not what they accumulate for themselves. we are living in a society of narcissism right now, entitlement right now and i'm laying it right on the doorstep of the public school system. having debate, doctors. i got to run and we appreciate you both coming on the program tonight. next on the rundown. president obama says he did not cause, did not cause the massive deficit. is that true? we will give you the stats.
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wrong. it is like somebody goes to a restaurant and orders a big steak dinner and martini and all that stuff and then just as you are sitting down they leave. i am not making this up. i mean press, go back, check, take look at the numbers. >> bill: so we have. under president bush who served 8 years in office the national debt was $4.9 trillion. that is big. but under president obama who has served just three and a half years, the debt has risen $5.1 trillion. mr. obama still has four and a half years to go to match president bush's tenure. of course, he can only do that if he is reelected. joining us from washington, fox news analyst and radio talk show star laura ingram. the key order in mr. obama's statement is cause. he can't deny he championed record spending because he has. he didn't cause it. what say you? >> the numbers on this are
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devastating. and, however, he parts his words or tries to use the cute restaurant analogy, doesn't change the fact that now we have more money added to our national debt during his three and a half years than we had added to the national debt in the first 219 years of our republic. that is a staggering figure. so he is right to some extent, bush did overspend and overspend big and the companies who followed him down that path did so at the country's detailsment and their party detriment. president obama unupped that. instead of learning from what the republicans did he is like i will have another and another martini. >> bill: he is having a lot of martinis and we are paying for them. two things in play on the sound bite. number one, he is trying to convince undecided voters that it was so bad when i got in here i couldn't do anything
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else. i had to do this so don't blame me, it is bush and all of those guys. >> yeah, that worked. >> bill: that is how bad it was. number two, he parses the word caused. trying to get the perception that we haven't done any wrong at all and don't blame me for that because the other guy did it. so he is still playing that card. i don't think it's going to work. i don't think you can play that card for four years and he is still playing it. >> if, indeed, it is the case that president obama is simply powerless to do anything about the current stalemate in congress because all of the people in congress won't work with him and the republicans won't work with him and if it is the case that president obama isn't really able to do much at all to pea pare down te deficit and deal with the national debt what was the point of the whole campaign? he can't always expect to get everything he wants. i haven't seen any credible
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analysis by the administration in the way of budgetary analysis or proposals on the table that take any serious approach to deep spending cuts that are going to be necessary new or down the road. >> bill: the liberal mantra, the far left mantra is we haven't spend enough. if we just spend another couple of trillion dollars we the federal government, everything is going to turn around and be good again. >> remember he used to like the analogy are we are in the ditch and just getting ourselves out of the ditch because bush drove us into the ditch. he said that time and again. now, it it is like i had four drinks and i will have another three so i can get in the car and rev it up and go at 70 miles an hour toward that brick wall. we have gone down the road of big spending. >> bill: it hasn't worked so far. anyway. in denver the metropolitan state college of denver, okay, mscd charges coloradan students
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4300 bucks a year to attend that college. they charge out-of-state students $16,000 a year. now, they say they are going to charge illegal aliens who want to go to metropolitan state 7200. >> undocumented citizens or soon to be citizens. >> bill: whatever the pc word dujour is. illegal aliens pay second and then out-of-state people who i guess are illegal alien aliensf they go to colorado pay most. does that make any sense and they say they are doing it, the college says we are doing the tuition break because we are compassionate, fair and we need more revenue. anyway. this is how crazy this country is getting. >> out-of-state, in state. they are not really in state. they really should be peaking
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out of country tuition. >> a new level of tuition. they think they will satisfy all the parents out there that are trying to get their kids into the school. >> bill: here is how bad it is and i want everybody to foe he cuss in on this and don't say that ingraham and o'reilly are racist. if you are a legal alien, if you come legally and get a green card and wait in line and come over you have to pay the $16,000 if you don't live in colorado. >> you are a total chump. >> bill: if you are legal and obey all the rules you get pennal eased by $9,000. >> you get the six grand a year tuition that is a steal and no big deal. bill, i think. >> bill: what they should do is tear up the legal stuff gorgeous to mexico for a week and have a vacation and sneak back and save 9 k on college. >> we developed a whole new
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strategy to undermine the law in the united states courtesy of o'reilly. i love it. >> think of the parents in denver or throughout colorado. it is really hard to get into the schools so slots are taken away from the parents here legally immigrants and nonimmigrants. people bonheur are. what about those people? belle i got to run. dick morris ahead on who the republican vp nominee should be. it all rhymes. and later, dennis mill iron big trouble for eric holder and how america should protect the kids from adults who are
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>> bill: in the impact segment tonight. lots of bad news for are president obama be lately and that is reflected in the latest
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tracking poll. if the election were held today mitt romney would get 48% of likely voters to support him and mr. obama 44%. the author of the big new best seller screwed dick morris. no surprise, mr. obama dealing with a lot of bad news driving his poll numbers down. >> and you are doing likely voters. >> leakily voters is the we and you pointed out many times. you were listen to my conversation with laura ingraham about the president parsing the word cause. i may be the record spender of all time which he is. the biggest spending president of all time. >> by far. >> bill: and even figurer than fdr. if you take the world war ii mechanism away but just on entitlements and things like that trying to save the government from going into a depression. the president wants you to think that he had to do it. didn't cause it. and that what he is doing is
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making the nation more prosperous. he has to run on that, correct? has to run ton. >> yep. >> bill: you say if you look at the employment picture is blows up. >> goes back to the segment on entitlement earlier about mccollough's speech. when obama took office there were 135 million americans who had jobs now it is about the same, 139 million. when took office there was 70 million working age adults who did not have jobs and now it is 100 million. >> bill: what is that working age? 18 to 65? >> i think -- i'm not sure what the cutoff is. >> bill: there are 100 million americans who could -- >> work. >> bill: by definition in that window who could work but are not. whether by choice, some can't. >> some 15 million are called unemployed because they are looking for work.
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the active roughly 80 million are not because they have left the labor force. >> bill: some are working moms. home and homemakers a very important statistic. when obama took office one third of us arced for a living. two thirds when took office. now, only 66%. gone from 30 -- the percent that don't has gone from 32% to 44%. >> bill: 44% of americans are not working in that zone of we are not hiring 85-year-old people here. let's say it is 18 to 65 or whatever. all right what does that say about the society? so you have 100 million people but they don't all need welfare. some are being supported by spouses and all this. >> the whole concept of leaving the labor force. he are rapidly approaching the point where a majority of us pay no income taxes and a majority of us don't work.
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>> bill: and the other thing you haven't pointed out and i'm shocked and i will point it out is 100 million don't pay taxes because they are not working and the money the government needs to balance the budget and that is taken away. pretty good? >> marist college showing through. >> bill: you bet. vice president for romney. he has to keep it secret because if he doesn't nobody is going to it watch the republican convention. that has to be the drama and that is what he is going do. pure on an electoral college play you select? >> rubio. >> bill: purely on that play? >> start with the electoral play. our ability. >> bill: again. >> romney's ability. >> are you officially a part? >> no.
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colorado, nevada and new mexico are hinges on his ability to get latino votes. >> bill: they say it doesn't matter because cube yes is a cuban and he doesn't have anything in common with the mexicans. >> the idea of having a vice president who is latino. >> historic, right? >> just like saying a southern black would not turn on the caribbean blacks or the african immigrants. >> bill: there are some black politicians or conservatives that wouldn't turn on the african american community. >> a few. of course, yes. >> bill: that's what i'm talking about. >> i believe the latinos are the jump ball in the politics and the future of the republican party in this election and every other one will hinge on whether the latino vote goes the way of the black vote and permanently 90% democrat or goes the way of other immigrant groups. >> bill: i agree with you.
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did you see rubio on the program last week? >> i did. >> bill: total change in demeanor. >> very good. >> bill: the first time he was on no way i'm doing it. >> there is a problem with him, though. he is so i'm getting complaints from all over that nobody can meet with him. nobody can talk to him. nobody returns calls. a little bit of presidentiality going on here. >> bill: might be because he is new to the national deal. go to dick morris .com and buy his book for father's day. he will sign it for you and come to your house and cut your lawn and could dog leashes a lot of other things. plenty ahead. a high school valedictorian in california gives the commencement address in spanish, español and the school says fine. and then dennis miller on whether adults should be
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segment. as we discussed at the top of the broadcast there a major problem in many american public schools. not only are kids not being taught the basics but there is a whole self-esteem craziness going on. in california the valedictorian said he wanted to give the speech in spanish. the principal said sure, go ahead. what us now, debra who founded a charter school. chairman of the news corporation rupert murdoch is on the board and dr. kennedy the author of a new book called born to rise which existences explains how to educate children to prosper. do you agree with me. >> the schools are in chaos. >> and the reason is why? >> we need a revolution. nothing short of a revolution in how we teach our children. and what we expect of our children. we expect way too little of them. >> bill: so you say that the public school system almost
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like mccollough said at the top of the program is saying oh, yes, everything is fine, isn't demanding that children perform. >> we don't need to tinker around with the edges. we need an absolute transformation and the only way that will happen is if we elevate the teaching profession. so we need to get rid of anything that would stand in the way which includes all of the union work rules that get in the way of teachers being treated like professionals. right now teachers are treated like factory workers. >> bill: i used to be a teacher. i taught high school. >> i didn't know that. >> bill: objective on who is a good teacher and who is a bad teacher. they could say he is bad because he is tough and rigid and i was is. now, you wrote this book for what is the one thing you got to narrow it down for me. the one thing that is necessary to educate american children? what do you have to have? >> you have to have an incredibly passionate dedicated smart teacher in front of every
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single kid. it sounds like a simple and pat answer but it is not because right now we have a system that allows for years and years to go on where a kid can be five years old that isn't taught to read. 7 years old, isn't taught to read. >> the teach hes have to be passionate and confront the children if they are not doing the work they should to. >> and have to allow the principals to here and fire based upon performance. performance in the case of the school means not only that the children are learning at grade level for god's sake in harlem 75% of the kids in schools were illiterate but also the kids learn responsibility and hard work. >> bill: as a former teacher i know that the parents of the smart kids would encourage them. it was almost 100%. they show up to the parent teacher meetings and make sure their homework were done. a lot of bad parents. a lot of parents addict, not
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there, are screwed up, don't have a book and don't care what the kid is doing and don't even care if the kid is going. can you overcome bad parenting? >> absolutely. as far as i'm concerned if you are an educator you are there to help the kids regardless of what their lives are. >> bill: isn't it harder to get a kid with no academic background and not encouraged, harder to deal with that kid? >> you have to step up to the challenge. if you are an educator you are there for the kids. >> bill: some kids you can't get to emotionally. >> you were a teacher in a whole school that wasn't working as a team. every single teacher in the school needs to be on the same page. same values. we are all in this together and all believe in these children. you can't have that when the principal has no authority to hire and fire.
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imagine somebody who was running a football team and had three who they wanted to let go but they couldn't and the whole team to fall apart. schools are like teams. >> bill: i believe there are some kids so screwed up it takes years of therapy to get through to them before they will pay attention. we appreciate you coming in. the book is "born to rise." interesting, thank you. >> thank you. >> bill: when we come back, it will be miller time. eric holder cursing in front of kids and burger
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the o'reilly factor the new mexico one cable news show for 12 years running. >> bill: thanks for staying with us. i'm bill o'reilly. in the miller time segment 80s as we reported yesterday attorney general holder in major trouble because of the fast and furious gun scandal. our pal dennis miller has been following the holder situation
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and joins us from california. what say you. >> no hablaingles. >> bill: going to do the miller segment in español. >> what happened? >> you know what happened. the kids run the schools. >> i guess, billy. i'm not saying corporal punishment was a good idea but you to have some leverage with these kids. going to hell in a hand basket. i have been saying for months that obama be is a kardashian presidency and i think you you eric holderthink ofary rick as fredo kardashian. if valerie jarrett asked h him to gophering he hous he shouldn
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the negative. i think he sleeps in the senate subcommittee room and keeps a weary on on issa. i don't think i saw ken jennings on jeopardy as much as i see eric holder in front of the committee testifying. the couple is if the water my friend. they are coming for you and you couldn't be out the door any more readily if they put a handle on your foe head. >> it would be an embare rasment for the obama administration to let him go and you know he is a close friend of the president so that is not going to happen. if they want holder out of there they have to produce evidence that he lied to them. if they do that, issa and the other people investigating, then he is gone. because nobody could give. but they have to say here is the memo. holder said that he didn't know. here is the memo that a proves he did and then it is bye bye. otherwise it is just a merry go round. >> you are telling me they are not going to whack him because
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he is a good friend? why don't you ask the guy who married him about that proposition? >> bill: talking about reverend wright. >> you serve at the december correction of the president and you go when it is time to go. >> bill: here is the difference. wright marginalized himself with the antiamerican comments and people wanted him to go. holder still has the devotion of the left in america. they still love him. it would be an embarrassment to throw him overboard. >> do you know why they love him now? for the same reason you like a sock puppet after it gets more beat up. like lamb chop now once he gets a little dirty i want to hug him half the time now. >> bill: when dennis miller starts to feel sorry for you, you know you are in trouble. a thing yesterday with stossel and massachusetts sound says look you swear in front of the kids we will fine you 30 bucks. kids walking out of the house
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and they have the mf word all you over the place and you are not going to do it in our tone. >> i have to disagree with the interview. there have to be places where people can walk around nude you know that as well as i do. >> bill: how about in your basement? dicksville new hampshire. lake titicaca. all these places, billy. >> bill: our audience is sophisticated and you are giving them thickened of stuff, miller? >> three actual cities. three actual cities. what is the beef! belle getting back to the original point. i'm going out to throw the first ball at the met game. there will be some clown screaming obscenities you know that will happen and i want the man fined $18,000. am i wrong? >> no, but if i were you i
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would take out a big thing of vaseline and throw a spitter. so at the first pitch. >> bill: a little gaylord perry right on that ball. i'm with stossel on this one. i know that you disagree. i don't view the government as all that sharp. they are not the sharpest knives in the drawer for me and we are letting them get in on everything. today it is milk shakes. >> bill: san francisco you can go up and now you can walk around lenny and squiggy walking around in the buff. you can't even take your kid out to play ball without seeing guys racing around naked in the street. there throw the football has to be a line. >> the line might be you as a dad if you take the kid out in the park and some moron comes up to you. >> and hit him with the bat and then you you get charged. >> hit him with your bat and, yeah, you are going to get charged. i don't know if you can get government all involved. >> bill: burger king, special
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orders don't upset them, do they do that still? i don't know. they have a new menu on the item and mayor bloomberg was the first one in line for this. a bacon sundae. a dessert with bacon on it. >> someone finally gets it there is nothing to top off a sweltering hot mid august day like some crispy deep fried hog fat. how long has this been in the offing? you know what, billy, like the muslim world needs another reason to hate us, okay. we are putting bacon on ice cream. >> bill: we can't even have dessert any more without offending al-qaeda. >> i have a summer treat for the people in manhattan. a bloomberger. half the size and twice the price and a really small drink with it. how about we sell that, first. >> bill: bacon sundaes, everybody. i'm sorry, muslim world.
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>> we're sorry, muslim world belle we apologize to pakistan right now. >> and, once again, miller and i would like to thank all of you you in supporting the bolder fresher shows. all of them sold out except the saturday on june 23 in chicago. chicago. bill murray going crazy on the baseball field. why is murray doing that? we're coming
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back of the book be segment tonight. did you see that? we thought we would book end with another look at some commencement speeches. we told you up top about a speech that told students they are not special. here is a clip from col len
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powell at northeastern university in boston. >> i wasn't considered one of the great suck is 70ss of the ccny educational system. the only reason i got out of ccny was they included all of my rotc grades into my grade point average. and i got straight as in rotc and when they rolled it into there it brought me up to 2.0. and they he said good enough for government work, get him out of there. now, i'm considered one of the greatest sons the city college of new york has ever had. it ain't where you start in life. it is where you end up and get along the way. >> you are are here to help us out with the segment. >> brilliant. >> you like that. >> i was a horrible student. >> bill: that's shocking. >> i will ignore that. my things came later in life. i worked hard. >> bill: you went to college, right? >> university of missouri. go tigers.
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>> bill: how did you do there? >> mediocre. >> bill: you say if you are student and you don't perform well in school that is not an indicator of what you will do in life? >> it is not. he said it is not where you start it is what you do along the way and you how -- >> he is a guy that should know? >> i have to tell you in my neighborhood the dumb kids that i grew up with. >> they are still dumb? >> bill: yes, he. >> that is your neighborhood, bill. i grew up in miami and we achieve great things miamiians. >> bill: the second commencement address given at southern met methodist univers. >> at those times when you are sure that you are right talk with someone who disagrees and if you constantly fend yourself in the company of those who say
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amen to everything that you say find other company. >> i think that was really good. >> i love her. i think did a great job. >> very smart. >> also somebody by the age of three years old she was taking french, learning piano, figure skating, taking ballet classes. >> bill: what is unusual about that? i was doing the same thing? >> a slight over -- we will talk about this after the show. rumors are going to be happening right now. >> bill: at age three i couldn't get out of the house. i didn't know how to work the door. condoleezza rice is saying don't be a kool-aid drinker. be passionate about the belief system but challenge the system. >> ask questions, don't assume. examine your own opinions and then challenge and attack your own prejudices. >> and have people around you that don't think the way you do which is why you are on the program. >> that is a compliment. >> i know i'm a little strange.
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whenever i walk out of here he goes what is wrong with her? >> bill: it is not because of that. anyway. i think what dr. rice said is important particularly for your audience who is engaged and do hold passionate belief systems. don't not listen to the other side. you have to listen to the other side. >> very different paths but ended up being two of the most incredible people in american history. i think powell is smarter than rice. >> bill: that is what the fair and balanced thing is. listen to the other side. >> and say that you are wrong when you are wrong. >> bill: which i can't remember when that was. >> it happens frequently when i'm on this set. >> bill: pin heads and patriots on deck. bill murray going wild on the ball field. there he is. he is about 65 bill is. p and p just
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>> first of all, mark, you misread me. i don't use the word liberal as a pejorative, but as a way to define a political system. all of us in the colonies well understand the difference between the european mind-set and ours. >> here's what i do know, rick. the president badly wants to raise taxes on the welty but cannot do so because he's constrained by congress. that's the fact. i may be stupid but i am not a kool-aid drinker. think about it. >> the up oners would have. i would have been there at the harbor and far-left folks might have showed up as well.
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so what? common ground is a good thing, that's why they invented tea, so we could discuss things with our pinky out.
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good morning everyone. i am patti ann browne. >> i am ainsley earhardt. it is thursday june 14th. thank you for watching "fox & friends first". >> it is time now for your 5@5:00. a manhunt on the way in new york state for a drama surgeon believed to be armed and dangerous. police calling dr. timothy jordan a former weapons expert special forces a person of interest in the shooting death of 33-year-old jacquelyn whiz n wisnoski. she worked as a receptionist and was jordan's ex-girlfriend. police came up empty handed during a search in jordan's home in