mike emanuel live on the hill. is this the moment we learn which way we're heading mike? >> reporter: this feels like a make-or-break moment. last night the attorney general sent a letter to the darrell issa that the department of justice was making a good faith serious offer to bring this to amicable resolution. in that letter attorney general holder wrote, we expect this extraordinary accommodation will fully address the remaining concerns you and house leadership have identified in your written and oral communications with the department over the last few weeks. the attorney general wanted to meet with chairman issa at 11:00 a.m. this morning. he also wanted the top democrats of the relevant senate and house committees included perhaps to have a few allies in the room. bottom line these two are jockeying. it is not not entirely clear how this will play out today. we'll obviously be watching very closely. bill: there was some drama in all of this. what was issa's response to eric holder, mike? >> reporter: it was

fascinating, he said produce the documents or else we'll go forward with the contempt vote. he essentially said have those documents to our people this morning so they could go through the documents and make sure that you are producing what we need, what we've been asking for all this time. and so, he says there is nothing extraordinary about a federal agency complying with a request from a relevant committee. and so these two are going back and forth, similar to the hearing we saw several weeks ago where they were cutting each other off and there was a lot of tension in the room. even the letters these guys were writing last night there is a lot of tension. we'll watch and waiting. i talked to the committee this morning. they say no documents have been received so far. at this point all indications are there will be a 5:00 p.m. meeting later today. then we will see whether it is enough to the postpone a contempt of congress vote in the committee tomorrow morning, bill. bill: how much of that meeting do we know this, how

much of that meeting will be made public, mike? >> reporter: that is a great question. all indications are a lot of it will behind closed doors with just key members in there but as we've seen a lot of this is also playing out in the media as well. all indications there will be some reedout, if not some public comment on camera after the meeting. but at this point it sound like the meeting will happen first. then we'll get a reedout exactly what happened and whether it was enough to hold off the contempt of congress vote. bill: thanks, mike emanuel leading coverage. we'll be in touch, mike. >> reporter: thank you, sir. martha: we want to hear from you this morning. hear is the question, will president obama's new immigration friday, the one announced on friday with regard to young illegal immigrants, will it help him or hurt him in the end in the election? that is our question on foxnews.com "america's newsroom." we'll bring you

the poll results later on. this is a huge question for the hispanic vote. meantime the government strikes out swinging with major league baseball icon roger clemens getting one of the biggest ws of his life, okay? a jury yesterday finding clemens not guilty on charges he obstructed and lied to congress about using performance-enhancing drugs. outside the courthouse yesterday, extremely emotional moment and surrounded by family, friend and players. he was clearly very emotional. watch this. >> all you media guys that know me and followed my career [applause] >> way to go rocket. >> put a lot of hard work into that career and so, again i appreciate my teammates that came in and all the e-mails and phone calls.

my teammates, thank you very much. martha: boy, it has been a long five years for roger clemens through this saga. his attorney called it a big day of celebration for them. steve centanni live on this in washington. steve, what questions really arise in the end from this clemens prosecution? >> reporter: well, martha the first one whether the justice department is overreaching when it brings high-profile cases without a lot of solid evidence. last month john edwards and now roger clemens. in this case the testimony did not convince a jury of eight women and four men that roger clemens lied to congress. clemens walked out a free man after nine hours of jury deliberation and nine weeks of trial. clemens testified in '08 that he never used performance-enhancing drugs. he wasn't compelled to testify at that time. he wanted to appear to clear his name, after being named earlier in the "mitchell report" on drugs and baseball. clemens and his attorney offered this vote of confidence for his clients.

>> it has been 4 1/2 years since we've listened to a picture that doesn't match up at all with the man we have grown to know and love. he was not only a seven-time cy young winner, he is a hell of a man. >> reporter: the other question that arises whether clemens can now be inducted into the baseball hall of fame. some say a cloud of doubt still lingers over one of baseball's greats, martha. martha: that is the big question on everyone's mind. what about reaction to the justice department and congress and money spent in this investigation as you point out, steve? >> reporter: the justice department didn't have much to say. in a brief statement they thanked the jury for its service. the department was asked to take this case by the house oversight committee chaired by california's henry waxman said in a statement, truthful testimony before congress is essential. the committee referred to the justice department because we had significant doubts about the truthfulness of his testimony in '08. i thank the justice department for its thorough

and professional investigation. one member of congress, republican congressman ted poe of texas said, millions of dollars of taxpayer money have been squandered in this prosecution. martha: question of how much evidence you need to have before going into something like this and opening this whole process. thanks so much, steve centanni in washington. bill: here is something you might not expect especially as we near the height of the summer driving season, gas prices are going down, not up. average price for gallon of regular, 3.50 a gallon. a nickel down from a week ago and nearly 20 cents from a month ago. not as low as at the beginning of the year. prices are going in a direction hardly anyone will argue with this. fox business's stuart varney. are you arguing about that, stu? >> no. i want to put a smile on your face. 3.49 for aaa. they survey all states and.

33 days out of last 34 days we have been down. you have to ask why is this happening? because as you say, bill, it is unusual. we're just getting into our cars and driving to the beach off on summer vacation. we're driving a whole lot more and the price of gas goes down? the answer to the question is, the underlying price of oil is way down. it has come from 105, $106 a barrel, all the way down to $82 a barrel. the drop in gas prices reflects that. that drop in oil prices though, that is the sort of the dark cloud there. why are oil prices down? the global economy is very slow and america's economy is also very slow. bill: that takes us to a critical question, oil prices often predict the strength of the economy, our economy, the global economy. what does it tell us how we are doing, perhaps how the europeans are doing, perhaps china? are we all down? >> yes, we are, all down. europe flat-out in recession. china slowing down sharply. india, really slowing down.

america slowing from a 3% rate of growth down to the 1% range. all over the world economies are slowing. that means less demand for oil. that means oil prices down. that's why gas prices are down. i would say this, bill. we may well be establishing a new normal for gasoline around 3.50 a gallon. bill: really? >> each new normal tense to be 10% higher than the previous new normal. we used to be around 3.20 a gallon. now it is 3.50 a gallon. it will drop a little bit more. when it goes back up again you will have a new normal at 3.80. bill: fill 'er up. see you at 9:15. thank you, stuart. martha: back to the election now when we see governor mitt romney's bus tour rolling into wisconsin on monday afternoon during an event at a textile factory. he made his first appearance with governor scott walker since the recall election in which walker was able to

keep his job. mr. romney made a big prediction in front of those crowds. >> it is my honor to be on the stage with the man i hope is the 45th president of these united states. [cheers and applause] >> president obama had put this in his column. he assumed from the very beginning wisconsin was going to be his. but you know what? we're going to win wisconsin. we're going to get the white house. martha: very interesting. this race in wisconsin has not voted for a republican for president since ronald reagan back in 1984. but a lot of people think that the walker situation, where he was able to keep his governor's spot there may indicate there is a sea change in wisconsin. we'll see. bill: 10 electoral votes in wisconsin. it was close in 2000. close in 2004. i think this whole tour is fascinating. new hampshire, pennsylvania, central ohio, up to michigan, wisconsin, iowa. you could make an argument that is where --. martha: election gets decided. bill: exactly right. martha: michigan is much

more in play than people might have thought at one point. we'll see where it goes. the tour rolls on. bill: we're just getting started now as the nation's top attorney faces possible contempt charges today. we will hear more from the man who blew the lid off the "fast and furious" operation. how his life has been affected since blowing the whiffs sill. stay tuned on that. martha: president obama facing some backlash for his immigration policy change. one lawmaker wants to sue over that decision because of the way it was done without congress's approval. and other critics say they believe the whole move on friday was about the election. >> this is far for the course. they have done that every week, they come out with some other issue like this to try to divide americans against each other for the purpose of getting him[ reelected., you'll inevitably find yourself on aolate highway in your jeep grand cherokee. and when you do, you'll be grateful for the adaptive cruise control that automatically adjusts your speed

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winds reached 110 miles per hour on sunday night, wow, uprooting trees and flipping boats out of the water. look at some of the pictures. some said the twister was unlike anything they had ever seen there. >> we saw a white sheet coming. we thought it was hail. we saw another white sheet coming up. waves were going all different directions. we decided yes, it was a tornado. >> it was like instantaneous. trees are down. we were standing right here. if it wasn't for this wall, we would either been hit with an appliance and squished or hit by the tree. martha: wow tough experience in a place that doesn't see it that often. no injuries reported there thankfully. they're putting back the pieces and flipping boats back over in south dakota. bill: with independents set to play a key role in the election, one high-profile independent reportedly tipping his hand at sqang

can i cocktail party. mike bloomberg was overheard saying mitt romney would be better at running the country than president obama. publicly he has not endorsed anyone. stephen hayes, from "the weekly standard." fox news contributor. good morn to go. >> you how are you? bill: mr. bloomberg said he briefed that mr. romney would be better running the country than mr. obama. cord to two guests that overheard this. what do you say. >> you would expect mike bloomberg to line up closely behind president obama. obviously he had his reservations. he said he wouldn't endorse. he had reservations supporting mitt romney because of views on abortion and guns. it is a interesting bit of news that mike bloomberg would not be supporting president obama. bill: this is like a businessman talking about a businessman. the mayor's office did not, they declined to comment on the conversation, which often times we don't know, often times that is affirmation of what he said. but i thought the most

intriguing thing he said is this. they're very different, meaning obama and romney. and they give the public a real choice. do you see that? >> absolutely. i mean i think he is right in his analysis of the race. we may have the greatest contrast in parties in candidates this time since 1964. something the obama team has actually argued all along. but i think it is interesting. you look at "the new york times" story. a "new york times" reporter was one of those who overheard mike bloomberg's comments. i think the comments were probably recorded accurately. interesting to me mike bloomberg at this point will not be supporting president obama. bill: interesting there. also out of west virgina, this is a state where barack obama is not popular but now the leading senator, joe manchin, and the governor, early ray tomblin, will not attend the democratic convention in charlotte early september. what's that say? >> that is president

interesting. remember barack obama lost some 40% of the vote there in the democratic primary to keith judd, a federal prisoner. he has had trouble connecting in states either southern or appalachian states, kentucky was one. north carolina uncommitted did well against president obama. further west you have arkansas where the president lost to john wolff or didn't lose to john wolff, lost votes to john wolff. you have a number of states the president shown he has struggled with moderate democrats or independent voters. bill: what does that tell you about november? i mean everybody is sitting around 4 1/2 months away and trying to forecast this. so if you have got trouble in kentucky and west virgina arguably not going to go for a democratic president anyway, is there more trouble that lies beneath that? >> well, this goes to the conversation you were having with martha about the bus tour. it is very interesting, if you start to see president obama struggle further with

white working class voters in the rust belt states in the upper midwest, that suggests deeper problems. one thing to look for, and we saw this in 2010 to a certain extent, prominent democrats who seem to be running away from the president or don't want to be seen campaigning with him. heidi high camp running for senate in north dakota cutting a ad that distances herself from obamacare despite the fact she supported it before. remember back in 2010, joe donelley, who was running for house then, is running for senate now, said basically cut this ad saying he didn't want to be identified with the president on immigration. if you start to see more of those kinds of moves by moderate democrats, i would suggest that the president may have trouble in those areas. bill: yeah. we'll see if the list grows or not. stephen hayes, thank you. enjoy the time in springfield, illinois, while you're there. all right, martha? martha: russia and the united states publicly clashing over a number of very serious issues lately. now a pretty chilly display

from the two leaders at this week's g20 summit in mexico. what is behind those faces?. bill: take a look at this? a cringe-worthy x-ray. a teenager shot in the head with a spear gun. the incredible recovery of one incredibly brave kid.

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bill: 23 minutes past the hour. all eyes on the fed. some speculating the federal reserve could continue a program that pushes down long-term interest rates in a hope to boost a struggling economy. power crews struggling to make repairs in ohio as cleanup crews move in. no reports of injuries after the storm. california lawmakers declaring tomorrow june 20th

international surfing day. the word in california is to expect a lot of sitcoms. martha: cue the beach boys. they're back. they're on a 50th anniversary tour. they're doing great. bill: california sick days, the beach, pretty much, it is lunchtime, we're all there anyway. martha: got it. no problem. a beautiful day. go for it. now on a much more serious note let's go to florida in a moment where a teenager is making a miraculous recovery after being shot in the head with a spear gun. 16-year-old yasir lopez was fishing with friends on june 7th when things went horribly wrong. one of his friends was loading a spear gun when it fired. take a look at this x-ray, ask yourself how does anybody survive that? it went right through his skull. phil keating on the story

live in miami. he will be okay, right? >> reporter: yeah the doctor's prognosis for 16-year-old yasir lopez is actually good. he begins rehab this weekend. that should take three months to speak. he may still be clumsy on the left side of his body in the future but he will be able to talk. that went right here, one inch above his right eye. the spear went all the way through the right hemisphere of his brain. fortunately speech patterns are affected on left side of the brain. he was taken to the hospital, according to him and his friends they were trying to cash fish in a lake near their house when the spear gun which came out quite powerfully when you release the trigger suddenly entered his skull. martha: so, phil, how did they remove it? just an amazing feat on the part of these surgeons. >> reporter: incredibly delicate operation. first of all they had to transport him with a c clamp

basically holding the spear in his skull securely. flew him by helicopter to the hospital. they had to use rebar cutters to shorten the spear to fit him inside the cat scan to get the brain imagery see exactly where all the major vessels are. fortunately the spear did not impact any of those. in other words the doctors say, had the spear had a brain of its own and picking where to go to do the least amount of damage, this was the spot. take a listen. >> it was possible for us to figure out a strategy during the operation to be able unscrew the tip of the spear instead of having to get the whole spear dragged out through his brain. >> reporter: so they pulled it out that way. three-hour operation. he is going to survive. martha: unbelievable. and kudos to that surgeon. my goodness, i can just man what his family went through, waiting to hear how that went. boy, we wish him all the best. phil, thank you very much. bill: like you said there is

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bill: fox news alert right now, 9:31 here in new york. eric holder only hours away from a face-to-face meeting with lawmakers over "fast and furious." the attorney general hoping to postpone a contempt vote against him in congress. william la jeunesse live on the story as he has been from the beginning of all this in l.a. now. william, good morning. >> reporter: darrell issa has a fight on his hands. not within the attorney general but within his own party.

some want the content vote to go forward tomorrow. others want the investigation over. they feel it is election year distraction. the irony we wouldn't be here if not for john dodson who risked his career to right a wrong. >> what made you decide to be a whistle-blower? >> i knew what we had done and i knew they were trying to hide it. i could tell they were trying to distance themselves and distance the "fast and furious" investigation away from brian terry's homicide. >> reporter: john dodson helped stop "operation fast and furious" by going public but he paid a price. >> it is miserable. i mean, only thing i wanted to do is my job. >> reporter: dodson left phoenix at a financial loss. moved four children to new schools in south carolina. he sits at home while the scandal plays out internally. >> i can't do my job. every time that i go, even if i help another agent i endanger their case by being there under this cloud of accusation.

>> nobody who can make any decisions has even bothered asking him, what happened? what went on within your group? nobody. >> reporter: do you regret what you did? >> no. >> reporter: second thoughts? >> no. to me there was never a choice. >> reporter: but there was for dozens of others who stayed silent even after the death of agent terry to protect their job, pension and way of life. >> a lot of people can't talk because they fear the retribution. they fear losing their jobs. need to provide for their family. to me it was far more important to be the man my son thinks i am than have a job like this. report now there's a lot of pressure on the hill today. the union representing the border patrol today called for holder to resign while the naacp supports holder. one key the national rifle association, they want this vote to go forward and they're letting congressman know that they're watching. if they oppose it that could

go on their scorecard. agent dodson says one way or the other he simply wants the truth to come out and those responsible held accountable. bill: we shall see shortly. william la jeunesse from los angeles. martha: suggestions of a very chilly meeting some say between president obama and russian president vladmir putin at the g20 summit in mexico. the deadly conflict in syria of course inevitably coming up in their conversations. this picture has been on the front of a lot of newspaper this is morning. it is described showing some serious tension between the two leaders at least by folks assessing looks on their faces and their bodily language and all of that. washington and moscow accused each other of arming opposite sides in syria but later on at the summit, there is another lighter moment with the two presidents sort of laughing and chuckling together in some moments you're about to see. president obama giving a thumbs up at one point. very difficult to read

exactly what is going on here as it is between world leaders. everyone is very concerned obviously about the civilian toll in syria. let's bring in ambassador stuart holiday, former u.n. ambassador to the u.n. for political affairs. good to have you with us. >> good moing, martha. martha: as i say very tough to read into the body language here. what do you think is going on between these two men and this extremely issue of what is going on in syria? >> first of all look at the relationship president obama developed with former president medvedev. no secret president putin is not the most motive leader person. i wouldn't read too much into the body language. things are tense and there are a lot of issues on the plate and there are some real problems in the relationship but if you look at the amount of time they spent, almost two hours discussing a wide range of issues i think that there was probably a lot more dialogue going on and it would be interesting, obviousl to see if

something comes out of this that relates to breaking the deadlock on syria. martha: i mean i would imagine also, and i want to get off the body language thing into more substantive issues but just enough to say everyone is aware there will be all these photographs. no u.s. president wants to be seen as too warm and fuzzy in this situation. we all remember the medvedev moment where the president was caught saying he would be more flexible after the election. that is an issue in the backdrop of all this. but you bring up something very significant in terms of these attack helicopters now off the coast of the united kingdom coming from russia heading to syria. they're held there right now. it almost remind me sort of a cuban missile crisis kind of moment when there is something moving in the water that could provoke a serious confrontation. >> it is a very serious issue. it is important to look at the russian perspective on this is that the opponents of the assad regime are getting weapons from outside the country. they accuse sunni extremists

funneling weapons in. what you have is a situation where a miscall can really result in a huge potential crisis. it is fortunate appears at least on this vessel the british insurance agents revoked the insurance for the vessel which will actually prevent it from moving forward. but the russians have a base in syria which is a very significant asset for them in the mediterranean. they will be testing that because syria is an important client state for them. so how we respond to this and what kind of interdiction or consultation we under steak will be very important -- undertake will be very important in averting a crisis. martha: how significant do you think it is that president obama did not necessarily push for an as you sister of assad yesterday? >> well i think, i think both sides are looking for a middle ground. even president obama knows that while he wants assad to leave, and that's our policy, what happens to fill the

vacuum afterwards is very important. i have to think the president doesn't have a clear picture of what kind of government. again the syrian opposition is splintered. it is up to us to work to create some political cohesion there. as far as putin is concerned, on his case, assad has been, you know, a relatively stable ally but i do think they're looking at the long term. if they think assad's days are numbered, what they will look at is preserving their own economic and commercial and equities in syria. martha: all that sounds very cold when you look what is going on the ground in places like homs. >> absolutely. martha: human civilian toll that is taking place. i don't know how you justify that and do you think there is a forming, idea behind a coalition that would actually go in and try to arm the right people if that can be found, to help these people get out of this plight? >> i do think that there is going to be a move to try to create some civilian safe zones, to try to have the

kind of support for the opposition that would allow it to defend itself but it is really about the civilian atrocities that are taking place and that is what the international community is outraged. but at the same time you don't want to alienate russia at the same time you need them on iran which is strategic issue for the united states. it is a delicate balancing act. martha: that is why being president is tough job. thank you, stuart. good to talk to you today. >> thank you. bill: there are new charges the president is playing politics with illegal immigration. one congressman threatening to sue the president over it. we will talk to him live and ask him about that. senator marco rubio, accusing the administration of deliberately dividing the country. have a listen. >> this is the most divisive administration in modern american politics. divisive by design. they deliberately divide americans against each other, men against women. poor against rich.

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martha: well, a pilot was forced to make an emergency landing in a residential area in phoenix, arizona, but he was not flying a plane. look at this. hot-air ballon in the old front yard it is. he was taking a couple on an early morning ride over the valley when he made a decision to land right here in the front yard. >> i talked to the buy that was actually in control of the thing. he lost control, them landing in the desert or landing here. and they're huge. i have never seen how crazy big those things are, three times the size of our house. martha: he looks like he was caught by surprise when the hot-air ballon landed in his front yard. no word what caused the pilot to lose control or decide he had to land. fortunately nobody on the ground or in the balloon was

hurt. the emergency crews were never even called to the scene. well-done i would say. nice visit by a hot-air ballon in the front yard. bill: he didn't have time to put on a shirt. martha: no, he didn't. bill: got to talk to the media, honey. there is new fallout over the president's decision to stop deporting young illegal immigrants. many critics argue the president is playing politics with the matter including florida senator marco rubio. >> he is taking a very significant issue that needs to be solved in a long-term ray that is measured, reasonable and balance and decided by edict, by fiat basically to solve it in the short-term which happens to coincide with the november election. i think long term that will have very significant implications. >> do you believe he did it for political reasons? >> i don't think there is any doubt about that. if you're one of the kids being helped, so what, that is the way the thing was supposed to work. that is how some of those folks would feel. i don't think there is anyone watching it that doubts it was for political reasons. >> that interview was with

sean hannity last night. iowa congressman, steve king is threatening to sue the president over the immigration mandate. republican on the house judiciary committee and vice-chair of the subcommittee on immigration. >> thank you. bill: what do you think about the word marco rubio put out last night he would not pursue what he planned to pursue regarding immigration in america? >> well, as i listened to senator rubio, i agree with his statement. i think his analysis is correct. he clearly understands this is politically motivated on the part of the president. there are long-term, serious implications for a president that would overreach and try to rule by edidn't. i agree with all that. i would add a little more constitutional outrage to senator rubio's response. we take an oat to to uphold the constitution. our founding fathers that each branch of government would jealously protect the authority granted to it in the constitution.

and now in this case, the vast and insulting overreach of the president of the united states from the executive branch. bill: in a word, is rubio right to pull back, yes or no? >> i think given the arena he is in right now, yes, i think he is right to do that, bill. bill: on your matter, you want to sue the president. on what grounds? >> well, on the separation of powers issue. i mean it is very clear, article i grants the authority to legislate to the congress, to the legislative branch. article 2 is the executive branch. when president takes an oath of office to uphold the constitution and to take care of the law is faithfully executed, not created by the president and not ignored by the president. he does both of these things. we've had a discussion about prosecutorial discretion when the president has decided that he would select individuals that would be exempted from enforcement. i might name his aunt and his uncle two of those essentially exempted from immigration law. this is a case where he

creates several classes of people and apparently a work permit by presidential edict or memorandum directed to give by janet napolitano. this congress can not tolerate the president manufacturing immigration law. one thing to ignore in individual cases. another to set up a policy that they will not enforce the law. that is violation of his oath of office, bill. bill: let me take you back 13 years. home state of iowa. tom vilsack was the governor back then. now he is agriculture secretary. you sued him you were successful. that is grounds for doing it yet again. how so? >> certainly informed me on the separation of powers issue. then governor vilsack decided he could rewrite the civil rights section of code of iowa by executive order. the attorneys at time told me i didn't really understand it was carefully and deftly drafted to be constitutional. i said no, you can't tolerate that authority assumed by executive. we went to the court case of king versus vilsack is in the books.

clearly separation of powers. bill: you won the case. >> executive can not legislate by executive order, memorandum or presidential edict, in president obama's case by press conference which he attempted to do as well. bill: two quick questions. when will you file? >> as soon as possible. we're still put together the legal team and standings argument. bill: you're going forward? you're not stopping here? >> i'm prepared to sue the president and i'm preparing to file. bill: how do you believe this decision impacts november? >> well, you know, haven't thought about that very much. this is a constitutional issue. and regardless of the timing and politics or the policy if this were something else, if he directed let's just say tim geithner not to enforce the, irs collection, then it would also be the same cause. we have to stand up and defend the constitution. this is paramount for our country regardless of the politics, bill. bill: steve, thank you very much. we'll see how far you get. >> appreciate it. martha: we have a question for you this morning.

did you learn to write cursive in school? of course you did, right? some schools say they don't need to the skill anymore. don't need to hand write or write a thank you note. our next guest agrees. that is something to write home about, bill. bill: aloha. martha: aloha. bill: great to be in paradise if you happen to hold a certain federal position. the golf and yoga, oh, yeah, the conference. martha: oh that. bill: that you are paying for, america. martha: the meetings. the luaus. the hula girls. ♪ .

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martha: you know what they say? you could say good-bye to the whole art of cursive writing you struggled hard over with the little dotted line in the middle of plain paper pages you had in grade school. thanks to laptop computers and tablets, looping your letter, not to holding your pencil right which is not easy for lefties like me is being scribbled out of the classroom. he says that is a good thing. i have an issue. radio talk show host michael graham is here. >> glad to be here. special message for you. martha: i can't read it. hello, fox news. such lovely handwriting. >> it is horrible. it is unreadable. i had to remember how to do the weird letters. you ever do a q? you remember what a q looks like? like an l or something. it is ridiculous. it is a learned bizarre language that no one ever uses again the rest of their life except for signing checks. you want to spend three years wasting kidztime on

it? i don't understand. martha: first of all it does not take three years to teach kids how to write source sievely. it is a dying art. you can't go through life without taking a pen to paper, write a nice letter or note to someone. some kids go to camps where you're not allowed to use computers which is a blessing to have three weeks with no technology in the summer if you're lucky enough to have it. they need to know the art of writing letters. look at declaration of independence. look how beautifully written it is. kids have no connection with that art at all, it is diminishes us in some way. >> when was the last time you read the declaration of independence in cursive? when was last time you read the constitution in cursive. you read read them in print that is more efficient. it is just technology. in 1800s when little ribbon was scribbled out or thorough, on walden pond in massachusetts that was best he could do. martha: exactly. >> teachers said it was stamp of our human

uniqueness. no, this is stamp of our human uniqueness and i can talk into it and sends texts without typing. i can surf the internet with built-in keyboard. martha: listen to me for one second. this is not to diminish the importance of technology in our society. you don't have to worry whether or not your kids will grow up learning how to use a computer. they learn it by osmosis. around them all the time. no way they will not know how to use a touch key, okay? what they could lose is the ability to sit down and write something. language, speaking to each other face-to-face, all of this are the things we need to encourage in children today because they will clearly have very small skills in this area. so to lose this to write it off so to speak to say it doesn't matter i think diminishes the significance of writing and communication. i think it is important they have it. >> i write twice a week. i'm on deadline today for "the boston herald." i write, i hope, thoughtful but probably annoying try to be thoughtful pieces.

600 words. i type it out. martha: what if someone does something really nice for you and write them a thank you note? sort of three levels. there is the text thank you. that is the lowest form of thank you. >> right. martha: there is the e-mail thank you which is pretty acceptable in today's society. something nice and special you get a handwritten note from someone, don't you appreciate that? >> it is always nice to get a note but more nice to get the symptom and spirit. send flowers, candy if it is that important. why would you waste kids class time learning this arcane, teach them can little row if i. or -- caligraphy. they will not use it again. martha: write me a handwritten note. @marthamaccallum -- >> dear, martha. martha: thank you, michael. bill: my handwriting gone downhill. martha: isn't it terrible? bill: the supremes are writing a decision on health care. it could come at any moment

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martha: breaking news right now on this mee meeting that is supposed to take place between darrell issa and attorney general eric holder. the health committee says they have received no documents from holder's office, which is of course what they are waiting for and have been waiting for for some time. this meeting was suggested by the attorney general's side to take place at 11:00am today. darrell issa office said 5:00, now we are told there is no agreement when the meeting can take police and there are scheduling conflicts on the republican side. that throws everything up in the air. will they ever meet face-to-face? we'll keep you posted as we get more information coming in on that one. a supreme court decision expected in days on the healthcare law. the white house is scrambling to prepare their response to whatever the high court decides. brand-new hour starting now of

"america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. morning martha, morning to you at home. the obama administration has been mostly silent on what will happen if the court rules against its signature piece of legislation. one official recently acknowledged that the white house is moving ahead with plans to implement major elements of that law. martha: doug mcelway joins us live from the white house lawn. it sounds like the administration's public face may be different than what they are planning behind the scenes with regard to all of this. >> reporter: that is very much two, mart that. according to highly placed democrats on the hill the administration is privately making con si contingency plans for a bad outcome while publicly debearing confidence that it will be upheld.

david plouffe said we do believe it's constitutional. we will be prepared for whatever decision the court renders. if the supreme court strikes down the individual mandate here is what one of the senior staffers tells the "associated press," quote. legislatively we can't do a thing and we will move full speed ahead. that means in effect that the administration will proceed with implementation of the affordable care act. keep in mind, though, martha that most of the provisions don't take effect until the year 2014, so the upcoming general election and the make up of congress could play a key role in how this thing is altered, formulated whatever. martha: if the supreme court decides to strike the mandate because they choose to deal with only what they can and cannot decide is constitutional and they extract that part how would the administration suggest they go ahead and pay for this act without that money stream? >> that is the million dollar question.

critics have said that the individual mandate is the key funding mechanism for the affordable care act. without that the whole legislation is a house of wards that will come tumbling down under its own rate. the administration thinks otherwise. they say insurers would have to accept all applicants regardless of their health problems. seniors, who are unhealthy and have pre existin pre-exist conditions could have to be accepted. premiums would jump up to 20%. the healthcare law would be unable to provide healthcare for 31 million americans who are presently uninsured. we would look at a much smaller pool of those uninsured being cared for, perhaps as small as 14 million, not the 31 million that the administration had originally envisioned. martha: it could be called the

trillion dollar question. if they strike it down it will be very difficult to pay for any of those provisions. bill: whatever the court decides ultimately most people will be disappointed according to new pew research polling. 48% of americans say they would be unhappy if the court decided to toss the entire law. 40% said they would be happy. the interesting thing is among independents. 50% said they would prefer the high court throw out the entire law. 44% saying they would be unhappy with that decision. martha: another fox news alert, because a hearing just got underway on capitol hill, there is the live shot on the left hand side of your screen right now. some of the president's green energy projects which have been very controversial are on the dockets this morning. lawmakers are questioning whether taxpayers dollars were next, specifically looking at four large companies that used over $6 billion to taxpayer funds. we will be watching that from

here, we'll let you know any news from that hearing. bill: a new sounding board wit for people with complaints about their credit cards. an online database for customer complaints. and big banks are not happy about it. cheryl casone with us. what are you hearing on this? >> i'll tell you what, many of the banks are saying that this is an over reach of the original mandate, the original purpose of the consumer protection bureau. they are going to be listing bank names and the type of complaint and what zip code the kphra*eupbt came from, but these are not verified complaints. it's a database that went live, a beta version, and people t can go and say i have a problem with my bank, with my student loan, but the banks say it's not in the proper context, basically. bill: is this a good use of

taxpayer money? >> obviously the blank check that has been given to the bureau is taxpayer funding. say you go to the database, you see a complaint, you decide that looks like a good complaint. i can't really spend that much yesterday, that is a fraudulent charge. that could open up the door to criminal activity and behavior or if nothing else headaches for the banks. this is going to give a national picture to what could be really a small problem with some customers at some banks, and the banks are going to be named. there are no secrets here on this website. bill: we'll follow that and see what comes of it. i know you'll be on this today. >> you bet. bill: along with dennis. monday through friday noon eastern on the fox business network we will check you out cheryl. martha: a new round of talks in

moscow today, the meeting between six world pours and iran showing a few signs of a bit of a breakthrough perhaps. steve harrigan is stream live for us on this story from moscow. >> reporter: the stalks still going on here. day two of the talks which both sides are describing as tense and tough. owone the one hand iran is asking the international community to acknowledge it's right to enrich uranium. the big question is whether iran will bend on the question of whether it has the right to enrich uranium to 20%, that is what the world wants them to compromise them. without that the sanctions will continue. the sanctions have cut iran's exports by 40% as to oil. and the currency is only 50% of what it was worth ten months ago. the sanctions are likely to be upgraded over the next two weeks when u.s. and european union

sanctions target iran exports as well as the currency. this is taking a large toll and iran's economy unless we see an unlikely breakthrough here in moscow today. back to you. martha: thanks very much. steve harrigan in moscow. bill: he set off a firestorm after interrupting president obama during a statement. remember this? >> it is the right thing to do excuse me, sir. it's not time for questions, sir. not while i'm speaking. bill: now that reporter is defending his actions, what he says happened at the white house last week. martha: we are going to talk about that. and last year's tsunami in japan now costing person taxpayers. why you could end up paying for some of that cleanup to the tune of millions. we'll explain. bill: aloha taxpayers. why are federal judges heading to hawaii to get to know each other? ♪

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bill: american taxpayers about to help pay for cleanup costs from the japanese tsunami. the state of washington requesting federal funding to help remove debris, that remove the tsunami debris washing up on the shores of the pacific northwest. officials say not everything reaching the beach is radioactive, but some of that is. >> if there is a significant amount of debris that comes through there is a possibility we could use a lot of our gear and time fishing and that is an economic impact that would be pretty tough to bear. bill: a plume of more than a million tons of debris floating somewhere in the pacific. washington's government says a hundred thousand dollars of state funds set aside for cleanup will simply not be enough.

martha: the reporter responsible for interrupting president obama's controversial immigration announcement on friday is now defending his actions in that speech that was being given outside the white house. here is what happened last friday, watch this. >> it is the right thing to do. [inaudible] >> excuse me sir shall it's not time for questions, sir, not while i'm speaking. and the answer to your question, sir, and the next time i prefer you let me finish my statements before you ask that question, is this is the right thing to do for the american people. [inaudible] >> i didn't ask for an argument, i'm answering your questions. martha: interesting back and court. that was neal monroe and last night he talked to shaun hannity and he said he believed his interruption was an accident, listen. >> i -- yes, i miss timed it. i thought i would get him at the end, and, frankly, i was wrong about that. the trick is to get him just

before he leaves the mode yum podium, as soon as he opinio finishes. he's a really good speaker. he'll finish his statement, i was hoping to get him just at the end, right or wrong and well i didn't. martha: tucker carlson has stood by him he is an editor of the daly caller and a fox news contributor. a lot of discussion about this interest tere change, tucker. when you look at it again and see what neal had to say about it last night what do you think. >> i don't think there is enough discussion about the real scandal as far as i'm concerned which is that the president of the united states introduces an undeniably important and unilateral policy change and think he can answer no questions from the public, that is a scandal. he ought to be held accountable for them and the press core should be pressing him to answer questions than criticizing my

reporter for doing just in a. martha: do you think it's inappropriate to jump in when the president of the united states is making a statement? a lot of people on both sides observing this situation and said it was ill time, that's what neal is referring to at this time. >> sure, are my reporters the politest people in the world? yes, they are. they are reporters not wine stewards. i'm nottess spousing incivility at all. a reporters job is to get people in power to answer questions that they don't feel like answering. it seems to me we are awful differential to officials here. we should demand that he answer specific questions about his policy. these why we exist. the press in washington too often doesn't live up to that standard. martha: i can think of instances where we've seen presidents come out, i remember president bush doing it at times, making a statement that they know that is

something there will be backlash about and they say you know what, they beeline for the door and they say, no statement at this time. later on it comes out and gets discussed, but they initial here do it with no statement, no reaction. >> you make it a fair point. i think this president is less transparent than other presidents. no president is transparent as the public deserves them to be. they all run back into the white house and don't answer questions. the question is are we going to be a part of that and be party to that and that is absolutely not. we want to find out the information and bring the information to our readers. that's what i think neal monroe was trying to do. martha: what do you think about the whole sam tkopb donnelson thing. the suggestion that there are some organizations out there that are inappropriate with the

president because they don't like him being president, in part because he is african-american. >> well, i think it's prime a fascia ludicrous. in fact it's shocking to me that someone could make that charge and congressman elijah cummings said that on television the other day and not be laughed off the stage. you don't like the way our reporter addressed the president therefore he's racist? you sort of wonder how long that blanket charge, will be taken serious. again, this is good news for us at the daily caller because it's yet another example of the deep lack of seriousness of a lot of reporters in washington. i would argue that their corruption, frankly, and as someone who is offering an alternative this is good news. martha: where do you think this argument goes? at the heart of it was your

reporter's question. he wanted to understand how the president felt he would do this. make this immigration change without going through congress, when he himself said he couldn't in the past. how are we doing on getting and answer to this question? >> we are not getting one. neal monroe is an immigrant to this country. he's from ireland. he stood in line an awful longtime to become a u.s. citizen. seeing the president shortcircuit this. and the people that went through the steps and leaving them at the back of the line i'd like the president to address the legal immigrants of this country and tell them why it was pwort it for theworth it for them to pay the wait all those years and jump through all the hoops that the federal government throws up. he hasn't answered that question and he ought to. martha: thanks, tucker.

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now. dar u.n. ravi was released today. he served 20 days of his 30 day sentence. he was found guilty of by as intimidation after using a web cam to spy on his room may. his roommate later killed himself. a california superior court judge is back with her family after being reported missing on

monday. the 71-year-old called police saying that she was disoriented. she was found about 20 miles from her office. she has been on the bench for 20 years. a new satisfaction survey finds that american fliers are just a little bit happier but not by much. on the list of gripes new and increased fees for baggage. jetblue ranks the highest in satisfaction. american, delta and united are at the bottom of the list, bill. flying is not what it used to be. bill: no it's not. skwraoeut just like martha: it is just like a cross-town bus basically. bill: maybe not. martha: pretty close. bill: i think it can only get better, frankly. martha: that is true. bill: because it's right down about here at the moment. martha: exactly. bill: we ar major nadal hasan is back before a military judge to decide whether his trial is

delayed. his appearance all depends on whether or not he has a beard. postponing the hearing earlier this month because it violates army regulations. he is accused of killing 13 people. larry kipner writes the following. when will major nadal hasan be tried? that is illusive at the moment. kully, good morning to you. the guy showed up in court with a beard. do you see that as a note of defines? >> it might be. it might be that he wants to grow a beard an think he has a legitimate reason to do so and some folks do have a legitimate reason even when they are on active duty, so the judge will sort it out. bill: he is still wearing a uniform. >> he's on active duty and subject to the military justice

system. people have reasons, religion, inch grown hairs or something to have a beard even while in uniform. the question here is whether he's using it for other reasons, and the judge will deliberate and figure out whether he has a legitimate reason. bill: the question is was he trying to send some kind of signal or sign. his defense team wants to delay this trial until at least december. that will be a more than three years since the victims were taken down at fort hood. what kind of justice is that? >> well, it's slow justice. the capital litigation which is on going at fort hood is only one of 50 capital cases that the military has tried since the reinstatement of the death penalty. we have an a business malrecord as far as cases being overturned. the judge will take his time and listen to the defense and the

government requests and the judge will decide when the case should take place. bill: do you think we will learn more about his connection with anwar al-awlaki? after all they were exchanging emails, several dozen of them. >> i get it. but put yourself in the place of the prosecution for a minute, bill. this is not a who done it. the question is, what level or degree of culpability should he have, should the jury focus on? he's presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, but is it even relevant as a legal lots to introduce that? because why he did it is not an element of the crime. the fact that he did it or didn't do it is the question the jury has to decide. so the prosecution i think at least to date has decided it's not relevant and therefore they are not going to turn over all of the evidence that is unrelated to the actual crimes, at least that's your position. bill: we're going to watch. this will get a lot of attention too whether or not it's able to

proceed today or not. cully simpson thank you. we'll be in touch with you. to ouwe just need one line with a question mark, then we'll get to it. lines are open right now. martha: when he was running for president it was really hope and change that were the president's slogan. now that he's in the white house he has a bit of a different style. coming up we'll compare the leadership style of mitt romney, the former governor from massachusetts and president obama. bill: a growing controversy over a federal appeals court conference in hawaii. they've taken a lot of heat for the taxpayer money they plan to spend. wait until you hear their defense of that spending? [ male announcer ] knowing your customers

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martha: taking an inside look now at the leadership styles of the two men who are vying for the oval office job. we've seen president obama in action over the past three and a half years. but how dotes president's leadership and his style of the way he leads compare with that of his rival governor romney and what we can learn about that. ed henry joins me now live from the white house.

ed you had a chance to speak with david axelrod, one of the president's closes advisers and companions over the many years of his political career. what did he tell you about the president's leadership style. >> you're right david axelrod had a front row seat in all the president's major decisions and continues to be a top adviser. he heard this narrative that mitt romney the ceo was going to gather all this today the a bring all these important people in the room and make these crisp decisions and maybe execute a lot better than this president on the economy. obviously he rejects that, he says he he was in the room and he saw a president dealing with the financial crisis, dealing with an issue like healthcare where all of the advisers were saying go small, go with an intramental bill, instead he went big and in the end won, on the osama bin laden raid, on national security it was not clear it would go well. it was risky. the helicopter went down. we weren't even sure that osama bin laden was in that compound.

david axelrod says he has seen a leader up close, who is calm, cool and gets the job done. take a listen. >> you have to have good judgment and the courage to make decisions and when you're president of the united states, particularly in challenging times that means making decisions that aren't always politically popular, that carry with it some political weight. >> reporter: so you hear there in david axelrod promoting the president's leadership style taking a not so subtle shot at mitt romney's style suggesting that he won't be as steady, that he is somewhat of a flip-flopper. they will try to promote that between now and november. the flip side of the president's leadership, pushing so hard on healthcare to go big might backfire when the supreme court strikes down the constitutionality of the individual mandate. we may find out that that part of his style didn't workout so well, martha. martha: there is another democrat that you reported on as well who was a backer of hillary

clinton in 2008 and has mixed views on their take on how the president leads. >> reporter: that's right. ed rendell, a democrat, former governor of pennsylvania. we thought it would be kind of an honest voice. he has a new book out called "nation of whoosies" that suggests he wants bold leaders running his parties. he says on issues like the auto bailout the president stood firm and showed some real leadership to get that done, but he said on other issues like the bowl simpson deficit commission he thinks the president left a little bit wanting. take a listen. >> he acted courageous leon a number of things. simpson-bowles he was slow to the mark. he came out for a simpson-bowles when he and boehner were close to the big deal. >> reporter: that could be a vulnerability in the rehrebgs of

course. in 2008 the president promised to cut the deficit in half within four years. that has not happened, martha. martha: interesting layout of the pros and cons that we will here more about as we head into the final months of this campaign. thank you so much,ed henry at the white house. bill: a conference spending scandal this time involving federal judges. the ninth circuit court of appeals out of san francisco says it's going to maui in hawaii for their annual group get together. on the itinerary, sports fishing, golf and yoga. the court defending the island location by saying, they got a good deal. david williams with the taxpayers proceed decks alliance with me now. >> this is crazy. bill: hang on they said it was a good deal, would do you think? >> yeah it's a good deal to go to hawaii. it's always a good deal to go to hawaii when someone else is paying. i guess they are right. bill: with regard to gsa you're suggesting they are tone death. you actually went so far as to

say they need to cancel this. they have to kaepbls it they said. >> or open up their wallets and pay for the whole thing themselves. why not pay for it themselves. these are not underpaid people. i was looking at the itinerary, one of the sessions about how to use an ipad? i mean is this really -- do they need to go to hawaii to figure out how to play angry birds or other games. bill: i could do that for them if they needed a travel companion. they are out of san francisco, they either meet in san francisco, or san diego or seattle or hawaii. isn't that the nature of the geography? do you put them a break? >> it's the nature of the geography but also of our debt. we're $15 trillion in debt. what taxpayers are looking for is any sort of gesture, anything that says, okay we understand, we are in tough shape here, we are going to make some moves and they should cancel it. what they are doing is they are just defending this more. this has been out now and they keep on defending it. why not just say, you know something, we messed up, we didn't really learn from the

past and guess what we're going to cancel this and get the money back from all the down payments we made. that's what taxpayers want, some simple just tour. bill: the chief judge said, meeting in person it reads allows for a frank, constructive and civil open exchange of ideas and for colleagues that may not see each other but for once a year to act as resources. >> have you ever done yoga, have you ever done downward facing dog? i don't know if that's the kind of interaction you want to have with other judges. bill: face-to-face contact is important. i get what you're saying here. they looked at two other location, one in idaho and one in ask alaska. now you have a couple of senators, jeff sessions and chuck grassley saying it will cost at least a million dollars to pull this off. >> at very least. idaho, i can't imagine why they didn't go to idaho. and alaska is really not that fun to go to in august, but

obviously maui is a fun place to go. what i don't understand is you have the executive branch doing this, you have members of the congress on junkets. maybe the judges are feeling left out and they have to get into some of this action. bill: i'd like sun valley idaho any day of the week. the big point is this. are people getting the message. >> no, they are not. bill: why not. >> people inside washington d.c. and skwr*rs no judges are not getting the message. and taxpayers keep sending the message, and for some reason they don't get it. whether they are elected or appointed, they don't get it. they have to say, we care waoerbgs understand, we need to make the right steps forward. bill: david, aloha. i know you say they must cancel it. we'll see whether or not that happens . thank you for your time. martha: the obama administration

says that the president's immigration decision was not motivated by politics or timing with the election, but will that move hurt governor mitt romney's chances with latino voters? it was a whole big question of how this thing was timed. when we talk about that we'll show you what senator marco rubio says about it too. bill: say goodbye to voyager one, because it is out of here. ♪ happy trails to you until we meet again. ♪ happy trails to you keep smiling until then. ♪ ♪ managing my diabetes is part of my life,

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voyager one, and voyager 2 were launched in 1977. they are still flying. voyager 2 still also out there about 9 billion miles away. martha: all right. new questions about on whether the president's decision to circumvent congress on immigration will end up hurting republicans with the latino vote. florida senator marco rubio does not think so. he says hispanic americans have other major concerns out there. here is what he said last night. >> immigration is an important issue for americans of hispanic decent but it is not the only issue. people are struggling to make ends meet, they are worried about the businesses they run and their kids future. they've been hurt badly by unemployment, their house is worth less than what it was worth when they bought it. nothing has got even better over the last four years. like most americans hispanics are not better off than they were four years ago. martha: i'm joined by reverend

jaqu quirks degraff. and david avila is the president of gopac for ed indicating the next generation of republicans. good to have you both here. i want to put the first question to you, david with regards to marco rubio. he had a very similar idea with the d.r.e.a.m. act. he was trying very hard to pull republicans to his way of thinking, in terms of opening the gate a little bit and allowing those here to stay here, and he got undercut in a big way by the president coming out own thi on this on friday. >> it would have been nice had the president looked for a comprehensive solution to our immigration issue. it is the reality that he didn't do that. for republicans, though, we have a great opportunity, because if we're out talking about the number one issue to voters, whether those are hispanic voters or voters of any ethnic

group jobs are the number one issue. not once has someone said, as i'm knocking door to door are people saying to me, immigration is number one. they are saying, i want a job, my kids want a job. martha: i'm sure that's true. i think everyone can agree that jobs are the number one issue, however, hispanics rear acting very favorably in all of the polling to this move by president obama. reverend, you know, politically very good move on the president's part? outstanding move. i think you start hearing the rubio boom for vice president. we are now in the post rubio phase. he's a floundering fail in your his response to this act. martha: who is? >> rubio. senator rubio has been whining on and he has not been able to recover. he has not shown fundamental attributes to anyone in office and that is to respond to unfolding events. instead he's taking his legislation and going home. if he was so right on the

legislation why isn't he pursuing it? the reality is he's been trumped politically and the republican party is in a very difficult situation jihad a part time finding support for the for 4. he tried to convince mitt romney to come over to his way of thinking in this. is that a lost opportunity, david? >> look, it was -- the process was starting. senator kay bailey hutchinson was on board. senator jon kyl was on board. the legislative process takes some time. ask your friend harry reid. a bi-partisan group of democrat and republican senators killed the president's d.r.e.a.m. act. this doesn't happen all overnight. what the president decided to do is let's look four months down the road and what can we do to try to win this election and do this as opposed to taking a comprehensive look at immigration issue. and jaque, mark kwroe rubio is a friend of mine having been the chairman of our gopac florida effort. this is not post rubioer a. people are going to start

gravitating to marco rubio. martha: we have not confirmed this story but its floating out there that he has not been asked to fill out papers, to be vetted as a vice presidental candidate. as i say we're working on that and finding out if other people have been vetted in that way. how would it change the dynamic, do you think if mark kwro marco rube wroe were chosen. >> he's not going to be chosen. this is a toxic issue for the republican party. all the polls show they are down, 2-1, 3-1 on this issue of many immigration. they haven't been able to find their way out of the box. the larger issue is where is mitt romney? he hasn't been heard from. easy way without leave, ae away without leave on this issue. this mitt romney hasn't been heard it indicates that the republican party has a page he problem in the hispanic community and my friend david will have to deal with the next

generation of hispanic voters. >> looking forward to it. this election is about jobs and this president can't talk about it. let's talk about everything else except job creation because he's been a failure at this. martha: it was clear that the republicans were working on a similar legislation. we've got to go, but the president could have said to them, you know, what here is something we could all work together on and they could put together legislation because they were already talking about it. why didn't they do that. >> they've had three years to work on this legislation. the republicans would not come to the table in a mean full way. martha: he had a democratic congress for the first three years. >> the president of the united states acted in way that benefitted americans. martha: may be a lost opportunity for bi-partisan action. >> it's a government that works. martha: thank you, thank you very much. reverend degraff good to have you here. bill: neil cavuto will ask the senator about the vice presidental vetting process and

whether or not he's been contacted. that is at 4:00 eastern time only here on the fox news channel, check that out 11 minutes away from happening now. jenna lee stops by. what you cook up today, jenna. jenna: we have a lot going on, bill. a closer look on our show today on the path forward with russia. back in 2009 we were giving out reset buttons, now there are big questions about our relationship especially considering russia's pheurb shef in iran. is that still happening or are we returning to a time that closely resembles the cold war. they say europe doesn't need any lessons from north america on democracy or the economy. does he have a point, though, bill? we'll take a closer look at that. bill: we have an answer here. save it for the commercial. jenna, thank you. we will see you in ten short minutes. the economy might be in the

tank, folks, but there is an industry that is booming like never before. why the guns are the hot sellers in america. martha: how about this question, bill? what has ten thousand webbed feet and can stop traffic on a dime? ♪ disco, disco duck. ♪

bill: we are learning that gun sales are through the roof. buyers stocking up and the question is why? well they fear a possible federal crackdown on gun rights. casey stegall is at a gun range in fort worth, texas. how much of an increase are we

talking about in sales, casey. >> reporter: bill, good morning to you. very significant when we talk about sales of guns are at an all time high across this country, and we know this because it is measured by the f.b.i. doing background checks on folks that are purring weapons. according to that agency the number of those checks are up more than 20% than last year, and it is the gun ranges like this one in fort worth, texas and stores that sell these weapons across america that are reaping the rewards. >> we are hearing from some of our suppliers in ammunition that some of their production is spoken for for the rest of the year. >> reporter: get this the numbers really tell the story, stock for ammunition companies and weapons companies are through the roof. raoug tkpwer sales, shareruger sales are up about 84% if you can believe that bill. bill: what is driving this. >> reporter: a couple of different things. the experts we talked tow say there has been more social

acceptance when it comes to guns in this country, and also there is a big increase in the number of female ownership. but then there is the whole political angle, fears that president obama would tighten laws if he is reelected. you may remember he made a comment back in 2008 that americans clung to religion and guns, but the obama administration is quick to point out that it has done nothing the last three years to interfere with an american's right to bare arms. bill: casey stegall in texas. thank you. martha: high-tech maps are about to get even more detailed, and there are new concerns that some of those cameras may pick up some of what you're doing out there.

ask martha: got your ducks in a row? they do here. they brought traffic to a stand sill -- stand still. look at this.

a farmer herding 5,000 foul across the street. looks like a swarm of bees. use as stick to get everybody heading in the right direction. they're heading to a pond to eat. large lunch crowd. the guy claims he hasn't lost one duck during the six-month migration. bill: pretty good shepherd. even the president's golf game is fair game for late night. jimmy fallon weighs in. >> here is political news. yesterday president obama played his 100th round of golf since takes office. you can tell it was obama because he finished 14 trillion overpar. bill: long golf course. martha: long golf course. bill: the rough is really deep out there. martha: you do better than that generally. bill: some days. martha: you're a good golfer. we'll see you tomorrow. have a good day be everybody. jenna: this fox news alert.

big news on a major trial in this country happening right now. a military judge is hearing arguments on whether to delay the trial of the man charged with murdering more than a dozen people at fort hood. hear is the background. the pretrial hearing for the man on your screen, major nidal hasan was delayed because he had grown a beard. that is against army rules. in this image you can see he is still clean-shaven. this is from 2010. he is a muslim and could be forced to watch the trial proceedings through a closed-circuit television if he doesn't comply with the judge's orders to shave his beard. his lawyers say, they're seeking exemption to this policy because of his religious beliefs. prosecutors say those same religious beliefs fueled his rampage. hassan is charged with murdering 13 people and injuring 30 others in the shooting