peter goelz, former director of the national transportation safety board. the man who has investigate ad few prominent airline investigations in the past. how come on is that among aircraft flying these days? >> probably more common than you might imagine, jon. probably 40 to 50 times a year a commercial airliner has to declare an emergency due to a pressurization issue. just two days ago a delta flight, detroit to washington, d.c. had to declare one. dropped down under 10,000 feet. it is more common than you might imagine. jon: this was a good-sized aircraft. looks to me like a 757. might have been a 767. at any rate 149 people onboard including passenger and crew. this was going to be a cross-country flight. i imagine they had quite a fuel load on board they would have had to dump before landing, right? >> if the plane was a 767 or

57 they probably did have to dump some fuel, yeah. this pressurization problem can be very serious. there have opinion plane crashes where pilots were unaware that they were having a pressurization problem and they passed out in the cockpit. in the vast majority of cases though pilots are alerted and they take appropriate procedures. in this case they probably didn't get above 10,000 feet, much above 10,000 feet when the warnings went off. they circled and came back down. jon: might have been one of those instances when the masks dropped from the ceilings and passengers actually got to do what they see in those safety videos all the time. we'll find out when we hear from the passengers after they deplane from the aircraft. peter goelz, former ntsb investigator. peter, thank you. jenna: moving to one of our other top stories, new fears in the iran nuclear standoff. this as the pentagon issuing

a new report finding the nation may be less, less than three years away from developing and testing a ballistic missile capable of hitting the united states. chief correspondent james rosen in d.c. those time lines always moving. don't make you teal better though. >> reporter: from the department of defense, jenna, a sobering assessment of an islamic regime with the largest inventory of ballistic missiles in the middle east and bolstering its ability to defend against a foreign attack. at friday prayers iran's intelligence minister was enthusiastically greeted by worshippers in tehran with chants of down with america. top officials in the regime made pointed threats about its ability to shut down the straits of hormuz which estimated 20% of the world's oil supply transit each day. the u.s. responded with a build up of its own military assets in the persian gulf including published report of a fresh deployment of a forward staging warship and

undersea drones. this classified report first obtained by bloomberg was submitted by defense secretary leon panetta late last month to four congressional committees to provide lawmakers with classified and unclassified assessments of iran's capabilities. this report concludes, and i quote, iran has boosted the lethality and effectiveness of existing missile systems and new submission payloads. iran has developed the medium-range missiles to target israel and continues to the increase the range and lethality of these miss civil systems. they have mobile missile launchers not tethered to physical launch positions. iran may be technically capable of flight testing an intercontinental ballistic missile by 2015, unquote. this comes amid word from the international energy agency that iran's production of crude oil dropped slightly last month that as a european embargo on the purchase of iranian

crude entered its second week. always tense in that region. jenna? jenna: an important story for us today, james, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. jon: breaking news on the fort hood massacre. fox news learned the independent report investigating that deadly shooting on the army base in texas nearly three years ago calls for big changes in the fbi. major nidal hasan is accused opening fire there, killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. our chef intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is in washington. what is in this new report, catherine? >> reporter: thank you, jon. good morning. the independent report on fox hood is expected on fbi direct tore robert million letter's desk no later than friday. former cia and fbi director william webster writes, that his review of the fort hood massacre had access to more than 10,000 pages much documents, more than 50 formal interviews and briefings as well as direct access to all members of the joint terrorism task forces

or jttf, that handled the investigation into the alleged shooter, major knit dal hasan who is scheduled to face a military court in august. judge webster writes, quote, the final report will exceed 150 single-spaced pages in length and include 18 formal recommendations for corrective and enhancing measures on matters ranging from fbi policies and operations to information systems, infrastructure, review protocols and training and this is a stunning number of recommendations, given changes have already been put in place at the fbi since fort hood, jon. jon: so when is this report going to be declassified and when will the public actually get to see it? >> reporter: an fbi spokes map says a public version of this report could take several weeks. frank wolf who chairs the committee is pushing for immediate release because he says fort hood is the worst terrorist attack on u.s. soil since 9/11. he will not accept anymore

delay by the obama administration. >> i worry they are trying to stonewall this thing and drag it out so it doesn't come out until of a after the elections. there are american men and women whose lives are at risk. >> reporter: wolf will be briefed by the fbi on the findings of the webster report as early as monday, jon. jon: catherine herridge our chief intelligence correspondent in washington. thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jenna: a formal request on capitol hill to investigate national security leaks. fox news learning the chairman. house judiciary committee sent a member to member letter to a the top democrat on the panel requesting names of potential witnesses who could testify in an official inquiry into those leaks. now those leaks specifically concern reports about cyber warfare against iran and an operation disrupting an al qaeda bomb plot targeting u.s.-bound jetliners. jim angle is live on this story for us. what are we to make of this step? >> reporter: well it is not entirely clear at this point, jenna. john conyers the ranking

democrat on the house judiciary committee seemed to say yesterday that the committee should launch hits own investigation into those recent national security leaks that you mentioned and seemed to offer to join republicans in issuing subpoenas to determine where leaks came from, leaks that included a story on the u.s. role in a computer virus that was implanted in iran's nuclear plants which quoted top administration officials. mr. conyers seemed to urge republicans on. listen. >> we can, we have our own investigative capacity and so why don't, why don't we inquire ourselves? we also have the regular power of subpoena. if there is somebody he thinks we ought to talk to, we should talk to them. >> reporter: but some congressional sources, jenna, suggested that conyers may have not been entirely serious about the offer because why republican

chairman lamar smith sent him the letter asking him what names mr. conyers would put on the list to be subpoenaed or interviewed? they're hoping to goat that list later today, jenna. jenna: those names are important because they wouldn't necessarily be the people that have done the leaking or could be or someone that knows something? is that our takeaway? >> reporter: it isn't entirely clear but you would think it would be the people that leaked. lamar smith wrote to conyers and appreciates his suggestion of subpoena and interviewing people and he would love to work with him on compiling a list of names for people to be interviewed or subpoenaed. congressman smith clearly has his own ideas. listen. >> what sets these leaks apart from other leaks we have seen is that the media reports that many of these have come from highly-placed administration officials. if true, this means that administration officials are weakening our national security and endangering american lives. >> how about all the people that were in the situation

room identified by "the new york times". >> just a moment. >> reporter: so republicans are saying start with the people who knew the classified information who were widely quoted in the newspaper stories? jenna. jenna: they all appreciate each other so we're absolutely clear. we appreciate your report, jim, thank you. >> reporter: you bet. jon: the naacp is holding its annual convention right now in houston. we brought you mitt romney speaking there yesterday. today it is the vice president's term, turn. let's go to joe biden at the naacp convention. >> and i owe so much but, ladies and gentlemen, this is as much as i enjoy it. this is not about me. this is about another office. this is about the presidency. this is about -- [applause] more than any other office

in the land the presidency is about character, the character of your convictions. whether you put country above politics. from the very moment that barack obama took his hand off that bible on that cold january day in the mall he's done just that. he has put country first. [applause] when the economy was about to go over the cliff i watched him make some of the toughest decisions any president has had to make since franklin delano roosevelt. he saved the nation's financial system. in doing so he prevented a worldwide depression. it wasn't a popular decision but it was an essential decision and he was right. along we need the national phones aol system to function and credit to flow again. he stepped up to rescue the automobile industry. it was not popular. it was not popular

[applause] but it was critical and he was right. jon: vice president joe biden addressing the crowd at the naacp convention in houston. if you want to watch the vice president's remarks in their entirety we have them streaming live on foxnews.com. jenna: to politics now, some new polls showing the race for the white house could be very different from the president than it was back in 2008. we'll dig into these details how it will be. also a new documentary that shows a side of the united nations you probably haven't seen before, raising some serious questions about the u.n. and its mission. we're going to talk to the filmmaker a little later on in the program. >> peacekeepers unleashed and uncensored. and they're doing it all night long. they're grinding, boozing and [ snoring ]

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jenna: some new information on a story we brought you yesterday about the unsolved murder of a julliard student in new york city back in 2004. investigators thought, thought that they had a break in the case of the

murder of 21-year-old sarah fox, the woman you're seeing on your screen there. they thought they had that break because they thought they found what appeared to be a dna match between evidence at the crime scene and a metal chain police found at a recent occupy wall street protest. well now police say the dna may have been contaminated by a lab worker. authorities are now doubt that there is really any connection between fox's murder and the occupy wall street protests. jon: well, america's election headquarters is of course getting ready for the race for the white house and it is a very different race this time around. back in 2008, president obama he beat senator john mccain by nine 1/2 million votes. this times seems like a very different scenario is shaping up. according to the latest "real clear politics" average of polls, president obama has a slim lead over governor mitt romney, 46 to 44%. in an opinion piece in the "wall street journal",

karl rove, a fox news contributor and former senior advisor to president bush highlights the key reasons he sees for the tight race. they include the fact that gop voters he says are more fired up than democrats. the enthusiasm among young voters is lower than it was in 2008. and the president is losing ground among middle class voters. shane april is editor of campaigns and elections magazine. he studies this stuff like, well, like nobody's business. shane, i wanted to read to you part of what karl rove wrote in that op-ed piece in the "wall street journal." he says elections about numbers and right now the president's are bad. a big chunk of president obama's 9.5 million vote advantage, the advantage he enjoyed over john mccain, is probably gone. do you agree with that? >> yeah, i think so. i mean when you look at the numbers from 2008 to 2012,

the president's numbers are down really across a number of key demographic groups. really the president has to fight a battle on two fronts. one, he has got to keep the democratic base motivated and figure out a way to mobilize them. secondarily he has got to stem this exodus of independent voters that have been moving away from the president for the past couple of years and also white working class voters. it is not a group that president obama is going to expect to win but the margin, which he loses those voters by is going to be key and he slipped substantially among those voters. that is huge in a state like ohio. it is important in pennsylvania and important in michigan and north carolina. jon: the enthusiasm gap is the first thing that karl mentions. he says republican voters are fired up to vote this time around. if you can't get your base to go to the polls you will have a trouble winning an election. >> the enthusiasm gap depends on what poll you're looking at. a "gallup poll" suggested in some key states a hyper

level of enthusiasm was highest among republican supporters of mitt romney and higher than the president's supporters but nationally there's not a huge enthusiasm gap here. you know president obama's supporters are motivated, they are enthusiastic but keep in mind this is not 2008 and even a difference of one or two percentage points in terms of turnout among, sort of core aspects of the democratic base could mean hundreds of thousands of votes. that's what the white house has to guard against. >> i was surprised to read 9% of republicans who went to the polls last time around in 2008 said they voted for barack obama. karl rove's piece suggests that he is not going to enjoy that kind of support among republican voters this time around? >> yeah, i think that is a pretty safe assumption. i think that the one thing that you saw in 2008 was that, you know, the obama campaign was able to make inroads among more conservative-leaning independents.

those white working class voters even among some republicans while the numbers were quite small, all of those things have eroded to a great extent for president obama in the white house and it is now a fight to, you know, really retain that edge among independent voters which will be key in a lot of battleground states. and again, find a way to further motivate the democratic base because when you are losing some ground among independents, when you're further losing ground among white working class voters, the democratic base will have to be hypermobilized and the white house has to figure out how they will do that for november. jon: sawn april, elections expert, thank you. >> you got it. jenna: a big story on the economy and a brand new prediction. the housing bust, is over. we're going to take a look at why potentially some are arguing that. we get a whip pefrom -- yippee from jon. we'll figure out whether

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jon: some crime stories we're keeping an eye on for you right now. the family of a missing ohio woman is heading to north carolina where she was last seen. 33-year-old lynn jackeheimer is missing after vacationing in the outer banks. they are looking at her boyfriend in the her disappearance. brokering hidden transplants for profit.

levi rosen him, admitted charged 150,000 dal to three people to find kid any donors. a plot to allegedly kill sheriff joe arpaio. he wanted sheriff joe dead for deporting his family back to mexico. arpaio calls himself the toughest sheriff in america. he is well-known for cracking down on illegal immigrants. jenna: right now al new declaration, the housing bust is over. that is according to an article in "the wall street journal" that says we have reason to be optimistic and here's why. home prices are slowly increasing. sales of existing single family homes are rising. housing starts are we know as new construction, those are healthier. and home building is finally, finally contributing to economic growth. we have the president and chief economist of chandon economics and adjunct professor at the warren school. dani babb, real estate

analyst and ceo ever the babb group. i know it is noon on the east coast. can we break out the champagne, sam? are we ready to go that far or do we need a strong dose of reality when it comes to the housing market? >> we should have a tempered view. over last couple years the data hasn'tcations of fits and starts of improvements in the housing market. increases sales volume and firming of prices. we need to look a little deeper and understand it is still very difficult to qualify for a mortgage. that is limiting the capacity of young households that drive a lot of net new demand to make their way into the housing market. i think a big part of this we have got these modest improvements in the context of 30-year residential mortgage rates that are at historic lows and we have to ask the question, how sustainable are these improvements if on one hand we have a slowdown in job growth which is critical to driving demand but also we

inevitably face the fact that interest rates are going to rice, mortgages will get more expensive. not sure it will be easy to qualify for the mortgages. collectively that has some challenges. jenna: sounds like you're cautiously, cautiously optimistic potentially on this. wells fargo economist, dani babb, said this. even with the overall economy slowing, the budding recovery in the housing market appears to be gradually gaining momentum. so can that actually happen where the economy slows down but a housing recovery gains momentum? >> maybe in some economic theory but in real life, no. we have so many things that need to happen before we can have a rebound. we've had so many companies, organizations, news outlets and analysts call a bottom over the past six years. we haven't had one. most of the reports look at the top 10 to 20 metro areas. that is not representative of what is going on nationwide. we have more foreclosures happening this year than had even been predicted. banks are starting the

process up again. 700,000 foreclosures moved from last year to this year. 25% of the u.s. households are underwater on their mortgage. something will happen. most likely they will hit the market. >>. jenna: dani, one of the real estate reports, realtytrac, there are more foe closures for the month of june. what they're also seeing there is not a fresh wave of homeowners in distress and missing payments. meaning foreclosures in the process of happening maybe are for homes that have been distressed a year or more. is that a good sign? >> not so much. there was a moratorium on foreclosures when the robo-signing scandal hit the banks. they really weren't doing anything about all the homes sitting there but they're starting to now. but builders say, it is so great, we have 26% increase in homes they're building that is bad for the market. it brings up supply and brings down prices. all the homeowners underwater will be homeowner even more forcing them to foreclosure or short sale.

jenna: if i could. >> if i could add a point. one is driving increases is not single family homes. it is multifamily rental apartments. that is strong reflection of we have large, disproportionate number of new households renting either because they're afraid moving into the housing market or they can't get the mortgages. jenna: that means rents go up at that. we'll knock on wood when we say the housing bust is over and hope for the best i guess. but it was an trying piece in the "wall street journal." sam, danni, thank you for your time today. >> thank you. jon: my yippee was too early? jenna: maybe a soft, tentative. jon: a whisper. "the new york times" today says the romney campaign, quote, built a reputation during the republican primaries as tough street fighters, skilled in the tactics of political warfare. now some analysts want to see a more aggressive governor romney on the trail. is it time to take off the gloves? a fair and balanced look coming up. plus a new documentary about the united nations

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jon: governor romney won a tough primary battle on the republican side and the candidate picked off his competition because in part as "the new york times" puts it, quote, he acted like a tough street fighter, skilled in tactics of political warfare. well now there are calls from some political analysts for mitt romney to take the gloves off again in his campaign battle with president obama. should he do that? has he not done it enough? talk about it with chip saltzman, former campaign manager for huckabee for president and robert hooks,

former advisor to then senator joe biden and. what do you think about the premise first of all, chip, was mitt romney tougher during the primaries than he is now against the president? >> he ran a very tough primary. every single person that ran against him had frontrunner status and romney campaign took each one down almost surgically. they ran a very tough campaign. they were methodical. they knew exactly what they wanted to do and accomplish that. it was a street fight all the way until he won the nomination. jon: robert, you said the president has a couple of good weeks and sort of has his mojo back. does that suggest you think it would be tough for mitt romney to go after him? >> well i think the difference, chip's right, that romney did take these guys down one at a time but now the difference between peewee football and the nfl. none of those opponents for romney ever got above 25%. they never had any real campaign infrastructure around them and they never really had a broad base appeal.

president barack obama has all of these things. so it is a new space for romney. a new space for the romney team and they have i think they have been caught a little flat-footed last week by the president and his team, sort of defining, defining romney in a way that romney and members of the republican party aren't happy about and aren't satisfied with. jon: mr. romney is trying to define the president. he just came out with a new ad this morning as we were getting ready to put the segment on the air. we want to play a clip of that and get your response, here it is. >> when a president doesn't tell the truth how can we trust him to lead. the obama outsourcing attacks, misleading, unfair and untrue. there was no evidence that mitt romney shipped job overseas. candidate obama lied about hillary clinton. >> so shame on you, barack obama. jon: chip, he is calling the president, the sitting president a liar. that is pretty tough. >> it is pretty tough. it is a good ad. i would have preferred to see the ad last week when the obama people were

talking about it. i think what the romney people have got to do, they are a smart team and they have good people over there they need rapid response. if we learned anything in one presidential campaign an attack goes unanswered festered and some people will believe it. the romney campaign needs to push back. you asked a question if it is time to take off the gloves. it is always time to take off the gloves when you run for president. jon: some people think slow and steady wins the race. that mitt romney has been somewhat cautious and he hasn't stepped on any landmines either. >> the fact is the charges against romney, that he has a different tax code than most americans, that he has offshore accounts, that bain moved money and laid people off and moved jobs overseas, those are factually accurate. this ad you just showed, it is terrible ad, first thing it does repeats a negative charge against romney. i think they should take it off the air. but they're not listening to me. so, you know, whether it is speed but this constant negative drive out of the

romney campaign, the way chip noted he picked those guys off. huge money. state-specific buys and really negative. that is not going to work. the american people want to know what his alternatives are, what his proposals are, what his point of views are, what his tax records are more than just one year. the romney campaign has a lot of logistical work to do, but they have substantive work to do as they go about this summer presenting themselves to the american people. jon: well, it appears, chip, based on numbers so far the romney campaign will have more money at least the last couple of months, they have outraised the president in terms of fund-raising. they will have more money to get that message out if that's what they want to do. >> no question, they have had a great couple of months in fund-raising. momentum is with governor romney not only money side but state by state he is moving up. the race is almost stagnant at couple months. at end of the day race will be about one issue only and

it will be the economy. president has a lot to answer for the mishandling of it. romney campaign stays on message, do a good job they will win this race because they think mitt romney is better for the economy than barack obama and majority of american people agree with that. jon: is the economy a millstone for the president, robert? >> oh absolutely. for both candidates because it is a millstone for the american people. american people want to know what is the romney plan, not just lower taxes and repeal obamacare on which romneycare was designed. the, the money question, barack obama and the democrats raised a lot more money in the first half of the year. they have as much or more cash on hand. jon: actually, they didn't report cash on hand, did they in the last go round. i don't think they did. >> that's right. one of the challenges for money, where are you getting your money? as this money comes in a lot is coming from wall street and lot of it is coming anonymously. anonymous money in american politics is anti-american in my view and a lot of people's view. i think it will be huge

pressure on romney campaign to disclose where these big checks are coming from and who is writing them and who is accountable for the ads and material that people will be seeing in these key states in these swing states. jon: that is a discussion for another time. robert, chip, thank you both. >> thanks, jon. >> you bet. jenna: federal agents find a very well-equipped tunnel like the one you will see on your screen for smuggling drugs under our border. where they found it. how complex it really is. we have story coming up for you on "happening now."

jenna: we certainly all are familiar with the united nations. it is an organization committed to among other things, peace and security and human rights. but a documentary is raising some serious concerns about whether the u.n. is actually living up to its charter. and the filmmaker, ami horowitz, asked really tough questions about the u.n. something you think wouldn't be so tough. take a listen.

>> how does the u.n. define terrorism? >> well, technically the united nations so far has not been able to define terrorism. >> the u.n. member-states have not been able to agree upon a definition of terrorism. >> definition of terrorism is very difficult thing. >> one of the pending matters in the united nations. >> my own view quite frankly is terrorism rather like pornography, you might not be able to define it but you know it when you see it. jenna: he is the man who asked that question, writer producer, star as well after the documentary, "u.n. and me" out on dvd for all to see. why couldn't they define terrorism? >> thank you for having me. i'm glad you're doing interview. jon, great anchor, good-looking man. jenna: not the same. good to good to know you tell the truth. what about terrorism stuff. why can't they define it? >> not they can't define it. but if you define it you

have to make judgments. hey, you, member state of the u.n. are actually committing terrorism. they don't want to do that. jenna: they don't want to hold other member countries accountable? emblem matic of something bigger not just about terrorism? >> accountability is exactly right. they do not want to be accountable for anything. they are not accountable. that's why all the problems we see there stem from the fact, a, it is an opaque organization despite the fact it should be the most free and open because made up of all countries in the world and there is absolutely no accountability. you put those two things together, you get the insanity of the united nations. jenna: at the beginning of the documentary you make it very clear, this organization provided vaccinations for tens of thousands of people, has fed the hungry. gone into war zones where no one else wants to be. so as you're making this documentary, does the good outweigh some of the bad you found? >> in my view, no. i think the good is great. i think they should continue doing that but their core mission is really security, global security. and you know, we're better

off as a society in almost every measurable way in terms of, access to food and to medicine and poverty rates but when it comes to the security, we're worse off than we've been. why is that? the united nations core mission is to make the world more secure and they failed miserably. jenna: interesting that you bring that up because as i was watching the documentary there are a lot of big news stories that really are still among us that you covered. as you covered in this five-year journey making this documentary. we're seeing on the screen there, i believe a reenactment what happened in rwanda. i like to go to another clip, when you were asking and exploring the, inspecting agency of the u.n. when it comes to nuclear power and nuclear weapons. >> iaea. jenna: iaea. let's take a look at that clip. >> i think it is established, it's clear they're not building nuclear weapons. you made the argument very fine. but if you did build a nuclear weapon, what country would you blow up first?

>> the question is wrong. >> so have you, word, you're not building nuclear weapons? >> certainly 100%. resent any of these allegations. >> iaea. that is good enough for me. jenna: let's go to the other clip as well when you took a look what potentially was happening inside iran. >> in 2003, the facility near iran was outed as a nuclear weapons site. iaea sought permission to visit the site. a year and a half later. and in the interim publicly available satellite imagery showed the entire site was raised, including removal of first six feet of topsoil, eliminating all traces of evidence. the iaea considered the matter closed. jenna: the iaea is something we talk about a lot. we're still talking about whether or not some of these inspectors can get into iran. so in your opinion, not worth anything? >> they're actually better now that this new head of the iaea has taken over from

al baradei but the reality hasn't changed at all. they simply don't have any kind of teeth. they can't get access to iran. even if they have the best of intentions i'm not sure they do, they can't get in there because the system is so screwed up. jenna: let me ask you this taxpayers contribute $8 billion in the latest check in 2010 to the u.n.. >> the united states. our tax dollars. jenna: us, we're doing that, right? that is 25% of what the u.n. gets. do you think our country can effect change in the u.n.? or do you think that the u.n. is just on this course and no one can stop some of the things, in your opinion, are happening in and counterproductive? >> that is $64,000 question or $8 billion question. jenna: right. >> the answer is i think if we actually got serious our money and we said, we'll not fund these bodies in the u.n. if you continue down this path, i think that could have an effect because they can't really function without our money. we have never gotten serious about it. not with republican

administrations. certainly not with the obama administration which has been trying to raise the u.s. profile at the u.n. if we got serious about it i think there could be fundamental change. i haven't seen it yet. jenna: we're seeing clips from your movie. "u.n. and me.". thank you for your time and have a lot to think about it. >> it was a pleasure. jenna: we have statement from the secretary-general when asked quote about the documentary. many things are written and produced about the united nations year in and year out some are factual and fair. others less so. the public can judge for themselves from a variety of sources. value of the entire u.n. family brings to their lifes globally around individually. that is a statement from the u.n. again the documentary out for everyone to see as well. jon? jon: maybe the next documentary i will do the interview. jenna: maybe. we'll see. jon: thanks, jenna. a major discovery along our southern border. federal agent find an elaborate tunnel like this one linking mexico to arizona. you will not belief how

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jon: new developments now in the jerry sandusky child abuse scandal at penn state university. an eight month internal investigation that the university commissioned, headed up by the former fbi director blasts the late football coach joe paterno and other top school officials. the report just out blames the top brass at the university for not night filing police, allowing jerry sandusky to abuse a number of other young boys. in a statement paterno's family says he never interfered with an investigation. the family released a letter written by the former head coach just before his death. let's talk about it with jason friedman a former

prosecutor. joseph benedetto, a criminal defense attorney. joe, you say maybe it was not such a good idea for penn state to release the results of this? >> one million percent. i believe in transparency but to what extent, at whose benefit? the board of trustees, people who are at the upper echelon of society, people who have already made money in this world, i would like to see how many of these trustees actually resigned. my guess is none but the people who suffer the most are the students at penn state. the penn state is now a shell of what it once was. these people now entering the work force are forced to be straddled with this report. my guess they will suffer tremendously. jon: success with honor i think was the sort of buzzword about the football program in particular at that university. i mean is that all gone? >> it certainly needs a lot of rehabilitation. one thing that the report makes clear that everyone in terms of the upper echelon of the university knew more than they let on.

mr. freeh, impeccable credentials, i give credit to the university for hiring somebody like that to truly independently look into it. i also think it was a smart thing for penn state to release the report because it shows they are getting in front of it, they're dealing with the problem to try to cure it, make it better going forward. jon: does it, the report, does it make it worse for people like the president of the university and the athletic director? >> one million percent. what are they doing now? what will they implement now? it is easy for, easy to put the blame on the people at the front line but what are these board of trustees going to do at this point to correct this? are they going to stand up and say yes, we are part of the problem and we're now going to correct this? are people going to say, yes, it is my fault? i highly, highly doubt it. jon: jason as a former prosecutor. us did any of freeh's report become useable if there are criminal charges to be filed against people down the road? >> absolutely. obviously there are hearsay

issues in the report. we know two people have been indicted for lying to the grand jury. possibly the former president can be implicated in that. it clearly opens up some possible criminal issues there. one thing is for sure, certainly the civil cases against the university got a lot stronger. jon: jason friedman, joseph dibenedetto, thank you both. >> thank you. jon: "happening now" will be right back.

jenna: well, right now the house is finalizing yesterday's vote to repeal the president's health care law and sending that bill over to the senate where it's likely to to nowhere. republicans, though, are not giving up. house republicans are well aware that sending the repeal to the senate where democrats are in full control is basically dooming it to failure, at least for now. this morning house budget committee chairman paul ryan telling "fox & friends" there's another way. >> what we're demonstrating with this vote is there is one more chance, and that is electing mitt romney president and getting a united states senate

that will work with the house. we need to win this election, so there is one more chance. jenna: well, in many districts where the health care overhaul remains unpopular, yesterday's repeal vote may have political consequences for those who defended that law. but house minority leader nancy pelosi is rejecting those concerns. >> we think the more people know about this legislation, you see it has changed even in the past week, the support for it has increased, and as people understand what we all heard here today, how it effects their lives directly, that that will even grow. so as i've said before, the politics be damned. jenna: senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says repeal will be the first order of business if he becomes majority leader in november. big question. jon: right now vice president joe biden is just wrapping up his speech at the annual convention of the naacp in houston.

the vice president was today's keynote speaker on the final day of the convention, one day after republican presidential candidate mitt romney told the group he would do more for african-americans than president obama. vice president biden strongly disagreed. >> and, folks, their discipline is amazing. they have never let up. [laughter] but neither has my guy, neither has president barack obama! [cheers and applause] he has not given up! he continues, he continues to be driven by the character of his convictions. jon: president obama did not appear in person at the convention, but he did address the gathering in a video. jon: more, now, on our top story, the house vote to repeal the health care law. welcome to a second hour of

"happening now," i'm jon scott. jenna: hi, everybody, i'm jenna lee. the vote was 244-185. you had five democrats voting with republicans in favor of repeal. now the bill, as we mentioned, is on its way to the senate. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill with more. hi, mike. >> reporter: yes, senate republicans admit the repeal fight is stuck at this point. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell has filed an amendment seeking a repeal vote in the u.s. senate of the president's signature piece of legislation, his health care law. mcconnell issued a hint to voters saying if you give the republicans the majority, elect more republicans to the u.s. senate, he becomes majority leader, well, then the fight to repeal health care will be the first order of business. today a leading house republican offered this justification for the repeal effort. >> every time we send a repeal it's because it's built on bad assumptions, and if we're going to drive down the cost of health care, increase availability and

affordability, we've got to start over with something that attacks the cost. and yesterday in both the morning and the afternoon hearings the one thing the democrats never even tried to fight was the fact that obamacare does nothing to drive down cost, and costs have risen under the time leading into the implementation of obamacare. >> reporter: a number of democrats have emphasized this effort to repeal the president's health care law as a huge waste of time. the president has issued a vie toe threat. -- veto threat. it's not expected to go anywhere in the senate. at the white house, press secretary jay carney blasted away. >> republicans have voted for the 33rd time, by my count, to either repeal or defund the affordable care act. in a quixotic effort to try to score political points. i think it demonstrates exactly what people out in the country

loathe about politics in washington. >> reporter: speaking of politics, there is that election that is coming up, and already there are those trying to make hay out of this vote. some democrats are saying congressman so and so voted to take away your health care, and some republicans are saying that those who oppose the repeal effort will be held accountable. jenna? jenna: that's right. there is that election, can't forget that. mike, thank you. >> thank you. jon: a big drop in unemployment claims last week, just 350,000 applied for jobless benefits, that's the lowest in four years. but the labor department warns the good news might only be temporary. some of the credit goes to automakers, often they close plants this time of year to prepare for the new models, but this year many stayed open to boost car production. spain's prime minister trying to tackle his country's budget crisis as he announced $80 billion in budget cuts. crowds of demonstrators marched through madrid triggering

skirmishes with police. so what can spain teach us about our own economic future? greg talcott live in london with more on that for us. greg? >> reporter: avoid debt, jon, i think that's the bottom line. there is a lot of pain in spain this week. the government introducing those austerity moves in response to an e.u. bailout of their ailing banks and slightly easier conditions to reduce that debt. let's take a look at what those cuts are all about. number one, a hike in the value-added or national sales tax in spain from 18 to 21%. also cuts in civil servant pay amounting to about 7% and trimming back of unemployment benefits from 60 to 50% of the final salary. spanish prime minister mariano committing the moves would -- admitting it could hurt the spanish economy short term, gdp growth expected to slip 1.5% this year. stock markets reflecting that

across europe, down by 2.5% just today. the reaction on the street as you noted in spain this week has been loud, it has been violent. spanish miners hit by cuts in subsidies were marching in the streets, they were joined by other anti-austerity groups. the police responded, rubber bullets were shot, dozens of people were injured. this all happened on wednesday. still a lot of anger there today. no wonder the unemployment rate in spain is heading towards 25%, 50% for youth. jon, the italian prime minister chiming in, his country, too, of course, hit by budget problems, by debt, by cutbacks. he claimed that his country is, in fact, facing a war at home and abroad. economic war, jon, economic war that could easily go across the atlantic and hit us in the united states. back to you. jon: talking about the pain in spain, greg talcott. thank you. jenna: well, this just in, a major law enforcement sting taking down dozens of web sites.

it's all part of project copycat. that's targeting sites selling counterfeit goods on the internet. apparently, some look so real customers might not even know they're buying fakes. never a good thing. peter doocy is arrive in washington with more. >> reporter: as a part of project copycat, federal law enforcement officers went undercover as unknowing consumers, and they bought these counterfeit products like baby carriers, pro sports jerseys and now 70 of the web sites they were buying these goods from have been seized. these were foreign web sites, and the domain names are now in the custody of the federal government. anybody visiting these sites today will find a seizure banner, and a lot of folks might be surprised because these sites were, apparently, near-perfect duplicates of similar, legitimate sites even featuring secure ssl certificates. so people thought their personal and payment information was safe, but now we know it was

not. >> individuals who are searching for a particular product online will be drawn to the web site, think it is an authorized, legitimate web site. whatever product that they're buying, in fact, is a fake. so whatever the cost is, they're paying that cost. they may not get their product in the first place. if they do, it's going to be counterfeit, a fake, and they'll have no idea until they have that unpleasant surprise when that product either doesn't come or it falls apart. >> reporter: 839 domain names have been seized in the last two years through the justice department's operation in our sights, including the 70 we're talking about right now that were seized as part of project copycat. the national intellectual property rights coordination center says the u.s. economy and u.s. jobs are hurt by counterfeiters every day, so is the health and safety of consumers. so, jenna, these seizures are certainly significant. back to you.

jenna: yeah. we appreciate it. when you see the one web site that's real and fake, it really doesn't look that different. easy to get confused, that's for sure. peter, thank you. jon: federal drug agents uncover a passive tunnel connecting mexico to a commercial build anything arizona. julie banderas has that story. >> reporter: just as we reported yesterday on the obama administration's decision to shut down nine border patrol stations which critics warn will thwart effort toss interevent drug and human trafficking, today authorities have made a major bust underground. they have discovered yet another mexican drug tunnel crossing the border into arizona. very similar to this one. now, the new tunnel runs into a commercial building in zahn luis. the drug enforcement administration describes the sophisticated passageway as 240 yards long, equipped with lighting and ventilation. u.s. justice department officials also say it was used

to transport drugs from mexico. authorities also say they have made arrests and drug seizures. so as security on land crossings is supposedly being tightened, tunnels are now becoming a more popular way for mexico's cartels to smuggle both drugs and people into the u.s., jon. jon: julie banderas, thank you. >> reporter: sure. jenna: well, he's already the only sitting cabinet member ever to be held in contempt of congress, but are even more problems on the horizon for attorney general eric holder? the next possible first for holder, we'll tell you about it coming up. plus, you're not going to believe this, some foreign policy experts are now advocating letting iran get nuclear power. let them get nuclear weapons as well. that's right. strange logic, it seems, but there's a pretty good argument for it. we're going to have a debate coming up about letting iran get nuclear weapons, straight ahead. the medicare debate continues in washington...

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jenna: well, another potential first at this hour for the man who may be the most controversial cabinet member of the obama administration. attorney general eric holder, already the first one ever in history to be held in contempt of congress as a cabinet member, now he could become the first attorney general ever disbarred. william la jeunesse is here to explain more. >> reporter: two pro-gun advocates who reported extensively on the fast and furious scandal filed a formal complaint last week with the washington, d.c. bar association against attorney general eric holder alleging that he violated the rules of professional conduct by failing to comply with a congressional subpoena for which he was held in contempt. the filing claims holder violated ethics rules by, quote, engaging in conduct that was dishonest and that interferes with the administration of justice. here are two schools of thought on that. >> the attorney general is ultimately responsible for everything that comes out of the

justice department, and the fact that the justice department officially is saying no to a congressionally-authorized subpoena rises to the level of something that the bar association could look at and revoke attorney general eric holder's bar license. >> because this particular complaint is presented as if the attorney general had already been convicted of a crime, i think it'll likely be rejected on its face. >> reporter: now, holder is not alone. in 2000 former president bill clinton lost his license for five years after the arkansas supreme court said he lied about the lewinsky affair. also you have former president richard nixon, he got disbarred for obstructing justice. former vp spir wu ago knew, north carolina da mike nifong as did f. lee bailey for mishandling client money. as for holder, a department of

justice spokeswoman said this, i'm quoting: these are specious claims that ignore facts and can only be describe z add frivolous. the bottom line, jenna, a screening committee will likely evaluate this complaint and possibly table it while the case is traveling through the courts until there is likely an outcome. they don't like to get too involved with the political stuff. that'll-and-a-half william, thank you. jon: president obama and governor romney are running neck and neck in the latest polls, and according to political expert larry sabato, americans should fasten their seat belts. why sabato says it could be one of the tightest races of our generation. also, the shocking new suggestion by some middle east scholars; let iran get the bomb. what? you heard right. some now argue iran should get nuclear weapons. jenna gets some answers to that question next. [ male announcer ] at scottrade,

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jon: a desperate search for survivors in the french alps after a massive avalanche kills several mountain climbers. julie banderas has the latest. >> reporter: a total of six people are dead and many more are unaccounted for at this hour after an avalanche caught dozen os of -- dozens of people by surprise. pictures show a rescue helicopter searching for survivors and bringing victims back to safety on stretchers. six climbers were swept away, at least nine people were injured and about a dozen others are still missing. in all there were about 28 climbers from switzerland, germany, spain, france, denmark and serbia believed to be involved in the expedition. rescuers assisted by two helicopters worked to pull the dead and the injured from the mountain. the injured climbers have been

hospitalized, but at this point their conditions remain unclear. back to you. jon: scary stuff. julie banderas, thanks. >> reporter: sure. jenna: well, the west keeps putting more pressure on iran to give up its nuclear ambitions. we've certainly talked about that a lot on this show. but one of the world's most respected scholars on international relations is really shaking up the foreign policy world. his name is kenneth waltz, and he thinks the world would be safer if iran had nuclear weapons. that's right. that's what he says, it would be safer. and here's some of what he wrote in his latest article in foreign affairs magazine. he writes: most u.s., european and israeli commentators and policymakers warn that a nuclear-armed iran would be the worst possible outcome of their current standoff. in fact, it would probably be the best possible result, the one most likely to restore stability to the middle east. we now have nine or ten nuclear

states, and in each case the effect of their getting nuclear weapons has been to calm things down. joe so rinse eurozoneny is the author of "bomb scare: the history and future of nuclear weapons," lieutenant colonel ralph peters is a fox news strategic analyst. it was a fascinating article, and we definitely want to get your thoughts. i want to read just a little bit more for our viewers because mr. waltz ends on this rhyme, if you will: jenna: the reason he says this, joe, is if iran has nuclear weapons, then it reduces imbalances in military power, and that produces stability. joe, what do you think about that? >> well, ken waltz is a well respected, conservative analyst. i've met him, i've been to his home, i appreciate his analysis. he actually does us a great service by saying that we grossly exaggerated the consequences of iran getting a

bomb. i think that's true. no country has used a nuclear weapon in over 67 years. i don't think if iran had a bomb they would use it either, but then he dose too far. he actually says iran getting a bomb is a good thing. it would restore stability to the middle east, it's good to balance israel's nuclear capability. i think that's where he goes off the track. the risks of iran having a nuclear weapon with israel and maybe other countries getting it could lead to an unintended war, it could lead to a conventional conflict between these countries spiraling out of control into a nuclear catastrophe. that's why we've got to stop iran from getting the bomb. jenna: colonel, one of the arguments as joe points out is that he says, waltz, that nuclear weapons are a different type of weapon. they're not just like arming everybody and saying, okay, if we arm everybody in the entire world, then we'll have no war. it's because of the power of the nuclear weapon that is a deterrent. your thoughts? >> well, i think the technical term for the article is nuts.

every single point he raises in the article is wrong. and he goes back to 1959 and what's called neo-realism, the notion that every state acts in rational interests. well, this is difficult. and you've got players today, obviously, like al-qaeda, nonstate actors who are not rational by our standards, but the iranians have a different set of standards. and when you have a people who have an apocalyptic world view, their chances of using nukes are much, much greater. but it would unleash an arms race in the middle east. turkey would want one, saudi arabia would be panicking, egypt might reach for one. and this article is also very anti-israeli, very carefully couched. but israeli nuclear weapons, their no o knoply has -- monopoly has kept peace. there were four major israeli-arab worlds. after israel deployed its nukes,

no major wars. but in the end here's the bottom line, this piece in foreign affairs is a stocking horse for the obama administration which has already accepted the idea of iranian nukes and is trying to get people prepared for that. they've got to go through the sanctions, but obama is now not worried about iranian nukes, he's not worried about israel, he's worried about the iranians making trouble before the election. jenna: joe, you also argue do you feel if iran had nuclear capabilities that that would be the end all, be all? meaning you could live with that, joe? there's a difference between having the nuclear capabilities which is something waltz talks about and actually having a nuclear weapon. is there a difference? >> right. yes, there is. there are several countries in the world that have nuclear capabilities. japan could probably make a nuclear weapon in a matter of months. germany has nuclear capabilities. there are half a dozen countries that could make a bomb if they wanted to, but they decided not to. you can live with countries under those conditions, that is

probably the kind of compromise we'd want to have with iran. jenna: we'd ideally want to have, joe? >> no, not -- no. me, i believe we should have no nuclear weapons in the world, that iran shouldn't have them, israel shouldn't have them, russia shouldn't have them, we shouldn't have them. we should move to get rid of these. but i have to disagree with your other guest here that says this is a stocking horse for obama. this is the council on foreign relations that puts out the foreign affairs. this is run by a republican, richard haas, who's on the romney team. they headlined this article because it's so interesting, because it challenges some of our assumptions that do need to be challenged. there's nothing automatic about a country getting a nuclear weapon and then threatening to use it. we've had irrational, extremist regimes in the past like pakistan, china, stalin's russia have gotten the bomb. none have used it -- jenna: yet, right? >> right. yet. there's always a chance -- jenna: well, let me go to one of

these assumptions that this article takes on, joe, that you mentioned and, colonel peters, i want your thoughts on this. you were mentioning iran and whether or not they're a rational actor. waltz says the danger of iran has been distorted by misplaced worries and a fundamental misunderstanding of how states generally behave. he goes on to say iran's leaders indulge in hateful rhetoric, but they show no propensity for self-destruction, and he says for that issue alone this issue is not an issue because, yeah, they're fire breathers, but they're really not going to do anything. >> that's simply wrong. for professor waltz out in berkeley, this is an academic argument. for israel this is about survival. and also, by the way, the council on foreign relations publishes a wide range of things including a lot of left-wing stuff. they try to be balanced. but also on that council they back a lot of pieces that are anti-israeli. and so i think you see a lot of things coming together in this

article. but bottom line to your question, jenna, the iranians are different. this is not a nuclear-capable japan. this is not a nuclear-armed france. and the rhetoric is serious. as we should learn over the last 20 years, in parts of the islamic world there are apocalyptic visionaries who see death as a promotion. and to me, trusting iran with nuclear weapons is dumber than trusting bill clinton in a high school cheerleader's locker room. jenna: well, that gives us something to think about, colonel peters. thank you, joe, as well. we're going to have you both back to talk more about it. the article was fascinating and gave us a different way to look at this topic. thank you. >> thanks for having us on. >> my pleasure. jon: new concerns now that chickens raised on antibiotics could be breeding so-called superbugs, turning one very treatable medical condition into a serious problem. we'll get into that. plus, a new policy at the

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jon: there's going outrage on capitol hill over am new pentagon policy. lawmakers say they're upset because the defense department is shrinking the size of its reports to members of congress. the pentagon though is defending the policy. let's get into it with california congressman buck mckeown. he is is chairman of the armed services committee.

this came up in particular with regard to a report on china and its military capabilities. last year's report, as i understand it, ran about 70 pages, congressman. tell us about this year's report. >> thank you for having me, jon. last year's report was 79 pages. this year's report was 19 pages. i'm not quibbling about one or two pages. what we're talking about, in asking the briefers, they acknowledged to me that they had been told to not have anymore reports sent up to us that are more than 15 pages. to me it is outrageous you would limit the information given to congress to let us perform our oversight duties especially on something as important as what he is happening in china when they increased their spending by over 12% while we're cutting a trillion dollars out of our defense budget. to pick an arbitrary number of pages doesn't seem to me

to be the appropriate way to operate. if they want to limit the size of a budget, of a report, maybe they could say the report should be concise, should cover the subject matter and then fully do the job but to say arbitrarily it should be 15 pages makes no sense to me. jon: the word out of the pentagon former defense secretary gates found that reports that he, his agency would send over to capitol hill would get the most interest if they were short and sweet, concise. >> right. so then why not say limit the reports to one paragraph? you know, just doesn't make sense it me. and i sent the letter to the secretary asking him to change that policy. i gave him 24 hours to do that. it has been 24 hours. i haven't heard back from him. they expect us to respond quickly to all of their requests.

this is law. in 2000 the law was said they give us a report and it was late. it was supposed to be march 1st. we got the report may 15th. so we're, we're asking i think a reasonable request that they do not limit the reports to a certain number of pages. so they recently requested money for reprograming of funds. i think it's because they didn't ask a sufficient amount in the budget request last year. and i am sending notice to them that we're not going to approve any of those fund except for urgent needs for warfighters until they contact us and change this policy. jon: you mentioned that letter and i will read our viewers a paragraph from it. your letter to the defense secretary, leon panetta. you say this policy wreaks of obstructionism, a lack of transparency and is harmful to constitutionally mandated congressional oversight and national security. harmful to national

security? that sounds pretty serious. in what way? >> we think it is serious. last year there were well sections in the report that were very important that were not even in, addressed in the report this year. why? we understand that there was a fuller, more complete report written but before they could send it to us they were ordered to pull it back and redact some of the information. we --. jon: let me read part of what the pentagon says. they haven't obviously responded to your letter to your satisfaction but george little -- >> they haven't responded, they haven't responded at all to me. jon: well he says across the department we continually strive to provide congress the information and analysis it needs to fulfill its vital oversight role and in the most readable and usable format possible. we also seek to do so in a cost effective manner. if they're saving money, isn't that a good thing? >> the report last year that was 79 pages cost 73,000

plus dollars. the report this year that was 19 pages cost $85,000. i don't see where there is any money saving generated by that. jon: well, this battle continues. we'll see. we hope you will let us know if you hear from the pentagon. we'll update our viewers tomorrow where it all stands. congressman buck mckeown, chairman of the armed services committee. >> thank you. jenna: major developments in washington concerning the economy. we have new numbers on the job market out just today showing weekly unemployment claims dropping to the lowest level in four years. this as democrats push to end the bush-era tax cuts for the country's highest earners. molly henneberg live from the white house with more. molly? >> reporter: jenna, economists look at the weekly jobless claims number as on indicator of the strength of the job market. as you were saying the number last week fell the lowest level in four years, fell to 350,000 according to the labor department. that can be somewhat of a

hopeful sign when we see the number below 375,000 consistently. it may suggest hiring is coming down enough to bring down the unemployment rate. the asterisk is the automakers is not doing the usual july shutdowns where they to plant prep for the new models. there was somewhat unusual tax fight going on. there hasn't been a vote in congress yet on the president's tax plan but the white house says president obama will push it publicly over the next several days. >> i can't predict how individuals will vote but i know that democrats, to a person, support extending middle class tax cuts. >> reporter: but some democrats are having trouble with increasing taxes on families who make over $250,000 a year. for example, democratic senators jon tester of montana and joe manchin of west begin have been hedging a bit whether or not they support the president's plan. both are in tight

re-election races. republicans want to extend the bush tax cuts across the board. they say to do otherwise would hit small business owners who do a lot of the hiring. >> the president's solution is to take more money away from the very business folks we are counting on to create jobs that we need, presumably so he can spend it on solar companies and stimulus bills. >> reporter: senate democratic leader harry reid promises to vote on the president's plan before congress recesses in august. jenna: molly, thank you. jon: it should be an easy to treat medical condition but it is developing into a major problem. what does eating chicken have to do with a super bug? that is just ahead. [ male announcer ] research suggests the health of our cells plays a key role

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jon: well the latest polls show this presidential race is about as close as it can get. president obama and governor romney both reaching out to voters in the key swing states with less than four months to go before election day. is the race going to remain this close? let's talk about it with a man with the crystal ball. larry sabato, director of center of politics at the university of virginia. larry you have done some interesting analysis or you and your team have about this race and you say this will be a squeaker. that is why americans should fasten their seatbelts? >> absolutely, jon. something i think people will find interesting is this in the crystal ball this morning. an election model that has been put together and refined by professor alan abramowitz of emory university, one of our senior columnists project that is the election will be as close in november as it is in the polls today. that is, a relative squeaker. and people always ask me, what is the difference between a poll and an

election model? a poll is a snapshot of today and all pollsters admit that. their numbers can change. an election model actually predicts what is going to happen in november based on data that we have today that has proven predictive in the past of what will happen in november. jon: the national polls that i have seen, and again these are sort of within the margin of error but the two candidates are about two points apart with the president generally up by about two percentage points but you think this is an election that will not come down to, i mean, the popular vote? again, we're looking at potential of one or two states and the electoral college potentially figuring in big here? >> if it is as close as this election model suggestions another 2,000, the year 2000, the bush-gore race is possible. i wouldn't predict that but it's possible. now we need to remember those incidents are rare. the one before 2000 was in the year 1888. so, we don't have them very

often but every time you have a really close race like this one seems to be developing into it's possible for the electoral college to take its role, its proper role under the constitution and take precedence over the popular vote. jon: the economy also has a big role to play here and you have sort of taken a look at that. >> yes. i think the key consideration here is, what is our gross domestic product? how much is the economy growing? it's been growing less than 2%. that puts it an incumbent in grave danger, jon. if the gross domestic product pops up in the remaining months before the election, that would be good news for president obama. but if the recession in europe and other economic problems causes that gross domestic product to fall further from the level it is at right now, that is very good news for mitt romney. jon: what about in the house of representatives? we saw a sea change election really in 2010 when the

house went republican. it of course had been democrat tick, what do you see happening this time around? >> i don't think it matters whether president obama or governor romney is elected president. i think the republicans are going to maintain control of the house and to do so fairly easily. our current projection at the crystal ball is that democrats will pick up just about six seats. well they need 25 to take control of the house of representatives. they aren't even going to come within hailing distance of doing so. jon: larry sabato, from the university of virginia, with the crystal ball out on thursdays. larry, thank you. >> thank you. jenna: jon, our very own dr. manny alvarez, he has never been one to jump on the organic farm raise bandwagon. that is not his thing, all right? jon: all right. jenna: at least not until today. new data on chickens, antibiotics and your health and a super bug has the

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jenna: a new report raising concerns that women who eat chicken, which is quite a few woman in this country, may be at risk of developing some very difficult to treat infections. medical researchers say chickens raised with antibiotics may transmit a so-called super bug to humans. dr. manny al have rest, senior managing editor at foxnewshealth.com. >> we're talking about e.coli. there are a lot of antibiotic resistant drugs out there, e.coli being one of them. this came out of the cdc, and even abc news did a great job investigating this. basically what they found if you look at the e.coli that

is found in bladder infections in many women it has the identical genome to the same e.coli found in chickens. the argument is, that the link might be there is excessive use of antibiotics to these animals right from the very beginning creating atypical e.colies that are very drug resistant. they get into the food chain. they get into our bodies. bingo we have bladder infections very difficult to treat. jenna: so if you had the symptoms for this e.coli super bug that produced, maybe, a bladder infection, would it be the same as getting e.coli and getting physically ill? >> absolutely. i see a lot of patients, let's say they have a bladder infection. frequency urination and burning, whole thing. do a culture. give them ability bottom tick, come back two weeks later, still there. change the antibiotics still there. change the antibiotic, still there. because no antibiotic is

going to do the damage to kill this bug. this is the problem. listen i got an e-mail yesterday from the national foundation of chicken, whatever, manufacturers. they were all upset at article we wrote. how do we know that these antibiotic resistant bugs are not also because of human overutilization? we can say that, yes, humans --. jenna: human overutilization of antibiotics? >> they have a common cold and have cold and asking for z pack. how many people are asking me for a z pack and basically what they need is to basically rest for 48 hours. by utilizing antibiotics inappropriate scenarios you might be --. jenna: on any level? >> on any level. jenna: let me ask something real quick. we teased this story. a little chocolate a little wine, don't get too crazy with organic stuff. in this situation you're saying in the article organic might be something to take a look at? >> organic is so available and so inexpensive.

there is mass production of it a days. we have to go organic. fish might be coming from thailand. vegetables might come from chile. canned goods, god knows where they come from. you start seeing weigh in america don't know where the food comes from, you better go to local farmers, better go organic if you want to keep peace in your mind. i drink wine. you can't go wrong with wine. jenna: organic wine and chocolate. you can go organic with everything. >> that is you know --. jenna: maybe another segment. dr. manny -- >> chicken is good. jenna: thank you very much for that on foxnewshealth.com. more for our viewers. thank you, sir. jon? jon: for the record, jon, never asked the doctor for a z pack. >> yet. jon:. jenna: yet. jon: mayor of scranton, pennsylvania slashing workers salaries to minimum wage. on west coast,

san bernardino became the third california city to seek bankruptcy protection. how do you know that your city will be next? peter barnes from washington. >> reporter: jon, there are many more communities burdened with big pensions and employee obligations in this weak economy and possibly facing bankruptcy. one way to spot them is through their bond ratings. take a look at that map. it shows about 20 communities have filed for bankruptcy in the last five years but this list is expected to grow. right now there are 26 other cities that have junk bond ratings from the major debt ratings companies. they include detroit and littlefield, texas and two communities in rhode island, east providence. for a lot of these places an their workers the party is over, especially in california. >> many of these cities have seen their budgets ramp up,

particularly as they were in prosperity period where real estate was doing well. where the economies were doing well. where employment was doing well. they believed that would probably be, go on for some time and therefore they allowed themselves to enter into labor contracts that they just can't afford today as the economy went into a reversal. >> reporter: his firm is a big muni bond investor. he says maybe five to seven more cities could go bankrupt in the next two years. jon? jon: that doesn't sound food. -- good. peter barnes in washington. thank you. jenna: we have breaking news out of the tech world now. yahoo! reportedly hacked. that is a big headline today. log-in for more than 400,000 customers posted on website called a group, d-3-3-d. yahoo! is looking into the case but didn't disclose how many accounts were compromised. if you feel your information has been exposed, always a good idea to change your

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jon: well, you know, it's thursday, and you know what that means. [laughter] jenna: almost friday? jo friday tomorrow. jenna: i was guessing. jon: thank you for joining us today. jenna: "america live" starts right now. megyn: fox news alert, two big polls that show three growing challenges for the president's re-election team. welcome to "america live," everyone, i'm megyn kelly, a thursday here at fox means that's payday. we are getting new analysis from the big polls released this week, first from a washington post/abc news poll. we are now learning that the president is slipping with independent voters. the abc politics blog calling it a, quote, clear and independent danger. add to that a new quinnipiac poll shows just 34% of independents approve of the president's handling of the economy. both polls reveal that president

obama's approval rating among blue collar white males has now sunk to another historic low. chris stirewalt is our fox news digital politics editor and host of "power play" on foxnews.com live. blue collar white men not backing this president is not a surprise, but the independents, that's what the battle is all about, who's going to win them, and he's showing slippage there, chris. >> well, he's showing slippage and strain. for the president he had a pitch that said that he could rescue the economy. he's tried to move the goalpost, he's talked about the challenges, he's blamed the republican, done all these other things, but when you're talking about moderate independents particularly, these are practical people, pragmatic voters. they're not ideological, they're results oriented, and if they don't think that barack obama's getting the job done, they don't feel the ties of connection to party and other things, and