but we have a camera. they got a look at what the police chief described as a vexing problem, something he has never seen. a series of trip wires, hooked up to what appears to be incendiary devices, unidentified chemical, jars filled with ammunition rounds and what appear to be mortar rounds. there has been a discussion of sending aren'ts inside that apartment, possibly to conduct controlled detonations of whatever is inside that apartment. but police appear to be in no hurry to get inside that apartment until they really have a good plan for what they have inside and how they are going to defuse all of that. you heard the police chief talk about getting help from the feds to look at the pictures of the video from inside that apartment building and make sure they have a safe plan to go inside. they don't want to injure any personnel and cause further

destruction to property and something they clearly don't want to do is destroy an abundant supply of evidence inside that apartment. so what we are seeing from police, they have secured the perimeter around five apartment buildings in the surrounding real estate. we have seen a few police. but for the most part, they are only securing the perimeter. all the fire crews are gone. the bomb squads are gone. tactical police are all gone. they are keeping people from getting inside that apartment building, greta. >> mike, i read earlier that one of the neighbor who is lived -- or lives below holmes, last night she heard the music playing loudly, over and over and over again and she went upstairs and knocked on the door to tell him to stop playing the music, saw the door was slightly ajar and she almost went in. i wonder, you know, is that -- just think how lucky she is, if that door is booby trapped that she didn't walk in.

>> reporter: that's remarkable. possibly the music was intended to draw something inside the apartment. possibly the music was meant to set up an alibi if people said they heard music from his apartment, that could have been a distraction if he intended to get away at all. it's hard to tell what was going on in his mind and whether the music was on a timer through a computer, so many questions need to be answered, greta. >> mike, tell me a little about the area eye understand that the neuroscience building, the university of colorado is right near there. >> reporter: i don't know about the proximity of the university, but there is a high school nearby. what we have going on at the high school, for all the unfortunate people in the surrounding apartment buildings, that's where they are forced to seek shelt fer they don't have family and friends to go to. some people have been able to go to the high school and contact police and police have been taking them back to the

apartment buildings surrounding the one. the main apartment building, where the suspect lives, no one's allowed to go back to that building. but the surrounding area, some people have come and gone. we see people checking on lights and making sure that nobody's where they shouldn't be. >> have you heard any information from the neighbors? i realize that everybody's evacuated, but anyone who knows him? >> reporter: we are seeing through reports over the internet. you get back to the description of a quiet guy, didn't seem to get along with people, kept to himself. probably spent a lot of time in that apartment, on his computer, planning whatever he intended to execute, or what we know now he executed. >> we don't know why the batman movie, why midnight? why now? that's part of the investigation. but nothing dcialg that we can piece together tonight on that. >> reporter: nothing from here on the scene, close to the apartment building, greta.

>> thank you. more than a dozen victims were rush to the medical center of aurora. many are still being treated there. dr. joseph forester is the intensive care unit director. he joins us. good evening. can you tell me the condition of the patients at your facility? >> good evening, greta. we have a total of 7 patients that are in the hospital. three are on the floor, four near i.c.u., two are critical but they are all stable at this time. >> does that mean, if they are critical but stable, it is your professional opinion, assuming no unforeseen consequences that everyone is going to live who is at your hospital, is going to survive their injuries? >> that's always difficult to predict. but they are doing well. they are being monitored quite closely and we are very optimistic that they will do well. >> can you tell -- how close was

the gunman to the people? can you make any determination about that? >> we don't know exactly how close the gunman was to the individuals. we do know that there were a couple of different types of injuries that the individuals sustained, from a shotgun or from a rifle or pistol. but we don't know exactly how close. >> when did you first hear about the shooting? >> i personally heard about it early this morning. but they first arrived at our hospital about 12:20 this morning. and we had our on-sight trauma surgeon and intensives and the staff there taking care of patients, about 12:20 this morning. >> if the first patients arrived at 12:20, that moved quite quickly. i don't pretend to be a doctor, but i assume that's better in

terms of care and survival, if you have a serious injury and you get to the hospital quickly. >> yes. the police did an extremely good job of recognizing that there was significant injuries and bringing the patients to the hospital promptly and our emergency room staff and physicians who were on site were prepared and did an extremely good job of organizing their care in a very expeditious manner. >> is your i.c.u. filled to capacity? or cough taken more? >> we have a few more beds, but we were quite busy. >> i mean, that's another consideration, with all of these massacres, some of these hospitals are already filled or can accommodate just so many. in many ways, the colorado -- we are lucky there are so many beds and facilities in the immediate area. am i right? >> yes. we are a level 2 trauma center. so we are... we have the

capacity to care for a number of these patients. we do do mass trauma drills so we are... prepared. and we drill for these rare instances that can occur. >> thank you, sir. >> you are welcome. >> now, the deadly chaos started with the gunman setting off gas canisters inside the theater. people ran for their lives. victims had to be cared for chemical exposure. dr. michael boden is here. >> good evening, greta. >> doctor, explain what you expect or think these chemical injuries were? >> the chemical injuries sound like, from what the various doctors have commented in aurora, some kind of tear gas that caused tearing and irritation to the eyes and the skin of the body. they didn't cause any serious

injuries. but they did -- were very irritating. it's interesting, one of the people who you just interviewed made one of those canisters sound like a flash-bang type of device that police sometimes use to startle people they are about to run in and take into custody, which has a loud bang and an explosiveness that can cause a fire. >> well, i suspect -- i don't know -- i suspect whatever he did toss was an effort to further terrorize and disorient people to do greater damage. don't you assume that that was what the use of the chemical weapon was? >> yes. i think the chemicals disoriented and confused the people he was shooting at. >> what do you make of the

booby-trap in the apartment? or the suspected booby-trap? it is something they have seen, it is not confirmed it's an actual weapon, but it's suspicious. >> they are treating it properly with great difference, they have it surrounded, no problem. what's interesting, if holmes had been kill in the course of this shooting, which is a real possibility, he was wear ago that's why he was wearing all the armor and all, then nobody would have known about the booby trap and it would have been more likely the police going to his apartment might have opened up the door in the normal fashion without taking the precautions that they did because what have he told them about there being explosives in his apartment. and that would have created -- a lot more injuries. >> if you heard the interview that i just had with my colleague, mike tobin. there was a woman who lives beneath him who apparently he left music on and it kept repeating and repeating about

midnight. and she went up to tell him to stop doing it, saw the door open or ajar, thought about going in but didn't. and then called the police about the music. the police said, we are busy with a shooting and didn't immediately respond, obviously because they were dealing with the shooting. but she was another potential victim of this, if it's the booby trap like that. >> that's -- mike tobin's information was very important because if she had opened it up, depending on how much explosive material there is, in all the different bottles and canisters there, could have blown the whole building up and the adjacent building. the soda bottles and cans that there was material in could be fertilizer like the murrah

building and a trip wire and that could have an explosion that would -- cause great damage to the surrounding buildings and the people in the surrounding buildings as well as to the neighbor underneath. >> one of the more difficult things for people to understand is this mass murder occurred shortly after midnight and the movie theater behind me, the bodies were left inside until very late this afternoon, 5:00 this afternoon. >> right. >> that's done for an investigative reason, it was not? >> absolutely. it's a crime scene. and you have -- essentially, in that -- in that theater, 10 crime scenes, 10 bodies, they had to be photographed. any kind of surrounding evidence would have to be collected. remember, two or three years from now, should this come to trial, all of that is going to be extremely important in

showing that holmes -- what he did, what he created, that it took time and effort to do it, that he wasn't doing a spur of the moment nsome kind of insanity situation. so that was very proper and takes time. then today, the coroner will identify those bodies and will do toxicology to see what was in the gases that were inhaled by these people and take toxicology from holmes, the police will, the urine and blood, to see if he was on any drugs. >> well, i am anxious to find out. but he did make at this time statement, supposedly to the police, saying the apartment was booby trapped. im curious if he is talking to the police and if he made any statements to the police, but i assume we will hear that later. >> thank you, greta. >> straight ahead, he thought it was a prank -- until the suspect

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goers didn't think it was real. fans thought fire alarms and smoke were just part of the film but it was all too real. we spoke with andrew bowers and lance barns. they survived this shooting. >> i suppose good news is that both of you made it out of the theater. >> we did. thank god. >> tell me when did you first notice there is a problem? >> right when the door swung open. just seemed irregular lar. guy walked in wearing a gas mass skpk threw a canister into the air, pulled out a gun. you knew something is going wrong. we had to do something. just jumped on the ground. tried to protect our self autos were you in the third row? >> yet right about center. >> how far were you from the closest to him? >> probably 20 feet. we're really cross close. >> seeing the doors swing open i thought it was an usher coming in.

then i saw a mask i thought he's going along with the movie. like employees are there to have fun too, you know? so he came in and he just threw that gas thing i was like, i thought someone was just coming in to prank or something then pulled out that gun that is just it got real. and we dove on the ground. i reached in the pocket dialed 911 and set the phone down. i didn't want him to see me dialing on a don phone. >> did he say anything? >> he couldn't hear with movie still playing in the background. there is explosion and action scenes and sound of the gun you couldn't hear anything. i don't think he said anything. it doesn't sound like he had time. i didn't hear anything. this just seemed like shootings. >> could you see him shoot people?

you saw him killing people? >> we're in the third row. we saw him taking aim at the back top half of the theater. we didn't know. the first shot looked like just a warning shot. so we didn't know if that meant cooperate. and we started to hear panic and everybody just running. people trying to run back to where they had the film room up there. the door swung open. people trying to get back there to get to cover. i only saw half a second then just tried to get back done on the ground. i can't imagine what is going on there. >> what he left what happened? did people get snup. >> we were one of the first people to get out. we got on the ground. after i dialed 911 and set the phone down we saw everybody on that side just ran out. they didn't get on the round. we crawled to the left and

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number right now 12 dead, 58 people injured during a premier of the new batman film. we're in colorado with the latest. what is going on next door? >> one stories we're hearing this is eerie. the last body came out just a couple hours ago. into the day cell phones were ringing inside. people dropped them fleeing the scene or they were part of people that were deceased inside. that has got to be eerie, to be a investigator trying to find out ballistics and everything and trying to figure out ballistics how many shots did he fire? so and that is happening and cell phones are ringing trying

to find their loved one autos there is a man here tonight with a members of the media saying he had been shot and looking for his girm friend. he hadn't heard from her. of course not one of us said anything but we had the same thought. >> there are other thing goesing on. there are 11 people in intensive care. there are a number of active scenes. this is behind me, who knows when that is going to reopen and what is going to happen with the theater and there is where the suspect used to work down the street. there are bomb dogs out there making sure that is okay. the suspect now not speaking. you've got the families being notified and 11 people still in serious condition, critical condition in the hospital. and i know one person came out of, i know one of her friends from california. she had just gotten out of surgery at 4:00 she almost lost part of her leg. they saved the lower part of

the leg so to get blood to it. you're hearing story goesing on and on. and. >> this is thinking about this. 24 hours ago people were lined up to go to a movie with friends and loved ones and there is a level of cruelty. >> you hear the same thing. you never expect to it happen to me. people say that. you've got to, we've done that and gone to a premier or big night at the movies and seen the place packed and been excited and we talked about this how it's going to be a big opening. we cover this. and that is one thing we talked about they're expecting massive crowds and so you know what it's like. four, five screens filled. this guy just walked nchl the

guys in the first two rows said suspect just walked right in. and basically walked past them, shot one shot into the keeling and then went after those towards the middle. first couple rows were spared. that is what the guy said z this is just some unbelievable stories of survival. >> one of the weird things is what we call him. alleged killer. the suspect. as a lawyer you mean, the presummation of innocence. but when the guy walks outside and waits for the police, and he makes a statement about his apartment, it's almost, you know, i'm not sure whether to say alleged or not. i feel silly to say alleged. >> right. and there is orm things you can add. did he ranged. takes a sick person. >> or evil person. >> this is -- people want answer autos yes. you can't blame someone or politics all the time. and you can't blame guns all

the time. there is evil in this world that. is here last night. >> this was planned. >> absolutely. and there is looking at the apartment and he had to buy stuff. he got and had to get chemicals and everything. so planned. >> apartment is interesting too. we talked about this about how he planned the apartment there is music blairing. think about that. and in college i remember someone wouldknock the door open or cops would come to knock it open. it won't be out of the ordinary to happen. and there is a plan, it looks like stuff could have exploded. i think it's going to put a small device in. there is no place to start. they have no place to start so

they may give a starting spot. >> i want to start by saying how proud i am of the men and women in the police department and fire department. chief of the fire department is here with us. and okay, there are 70 injured in this event. and as of this time, 12 dead. still... number is 10 in the theater. and last of the bodies were removed from the theater after 5:00 this afternoon. i think today i said others were all hit by gunfire. i know a handful of the people brought to area hospitals were not hit by gunfire and suffered other injuries as a result of the chaos in the theater. i can't tell you how many that. it's a small number. nearly everyone is shot. and little information about our subject. and... weapons obtained. he purchased four guns at

shops and through the internet. he purchased over 6000 rounds of ammunition for the assault rifle. and 3,000 for glocs in his position. and also, through the internet, he purchased multiple magazines for the 223 assault rifle including one, 100 round drum magazine i've been asked was it automatic? i can't answer that question right now. and if it's semi automatic i'm told that that is he could have gotten off 50-60 rounds. as far as we know there is a rapid pace of fire in that

theater. >> this evening at 4:00 members of the police department and many supporting agencies that have provided victim service advocates to support us met with approximately seven family and friends, 70 members of family and friends who have not had an accounting of missing loved ones. we met with them approximately 90 minutes and discussed efforts identify the 10 bodies in the theater. and did the best we could to deal with their grief. we're hopeful sometime in the next hour we'll get a confirmed ligs of the 10 deegs eased and we'll begin the agonize prog ses of meeting with those families and confirming what happened to their loved ones. i can't emphasize support of

our colleagues and local law enforcement that have been handling that task and aided by our own police department psychologists aurora public schools made available two high schools for tomorrow beginning at 9:00 a.m. for professional grief counseling and other resources including aurora mental health and red cross. two schools open at 9:00 a.m. and the superintendent was with us to meet with families and support of the superintendent has been tremendous. in addition, we'll talk about the parastreet location. we've evacuated five apartment buildings including the apartment building as a subject. they have been staying at central high school. again with support of aurora public schools w regard to the location this is a vexing

problem. and i'm a layman when it comes to bomb stuff. i've seen a lot of wires and trip wires and jars full of ammunition and quick yid, something things that look like mortar rounds. there is a lot of challenges to get in there safely. we decided to postpone election on that sometime. we needed a break and with the help of the federal government were bringing in extra resources to consult exactly how to deal with that problem. >> and and unfortunately the family has been evacuated and we're at this time allowing families one by one to go back

into four of the five buildings to retrieve necessities like med skpx those types of things. our hope is that we'll resolve that to. with regard to the investigation i can tell you we know a little bit more about our subject. and there is a voluntary separation. he hails from riverside, california and attended uc riverside campus, neighbors report he live add lone and kept to himself. >> coming up, who is the suspect james holmes? what is going on in his department now is in the police say he booby trapped it with explosives. there is new information by the minute. ♪

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we're back live in aurora, colorado. what are we finding out about

the suspect? brenda stewart from koa radio joins us. now news about the joker and mr. james holmes. >> he was found with body armor, gas masks on and when he was stopped by police which he made it apparently very easy to find him he had his hair painted red like spray painted and reportedly told them i'm the joker. and the joker was not in the movie. >> and did he say anything else besides that? >> so made a comment that this isn't over. he apparently wanted, i should say allegedly. because i heard you talking about that earlier. he apparently wanted to take down as many people as possible. he lived in an apartment complex with five buildings and they had to go and evacuate them so police still

cannot get inside of his apartment to where they found explosives and might might be a couple days before they can get in there. his parents are outside of san diego, they've issued a statement saying our hearts go out to everybody affected by this tragedy. please respect our privacy. bob and arlene holmes by all accounts neighbors say lived a perfectly normal live. they called their son jimmy, everybody in the neighborhood called him jimmy. not james, and his mother arlene is a nurse. >> greta: they say they want privacy what. do you do? we recall every person we've been the phone all day. and have tried to get to talk to people. i imagine parents are getting calls. >> i'm sure they are. it's important to step back to realize we don't need to

victimize these people. they're probably ashamed and embarrassed and asked for privacy. i know they feel probably bad about this. do by hound the suspect? i guarantee there will be cameras in the courtroom monday morning when james holmes makes a first court appearance at 8:30 and i don't see that as victimizing a suspect. >> i'm confused about what he was doing here, enroll roled in what type of program? >> he was apparently brilliant enrolled in neuroscience. >> greta: what saturday z that mean? what part? >> we don't know exactly. he was getting his hpd. i thought it was premed. he was interested in the medical field. he came out here to get his phd at the university of colorado. and he graduated from regular, from college with a bachelor of science with honors from

university of california riverside. >> and this is a classic thing we say. lives alone, no one knows about him. it's -- it's almost eerie how we seem to pull up the same descriptions. >> it's true he apparently didn't become a recluse until he moved to colorado. he started having problems in school and dropped out of the program, and became more aloof and quiet. neighbors say they knew very little about him until they heard music blairing from the apartment. >> greta: has anyone come forward saying i had a conversation with him and one two,, three, four days leading up to this? >> the problem is that we tend to hound people. maybe they're just not stepping forward. >> i want to know what he was like 12 hours before this happened, where he was. i'm interested in 24 hours,

that is what i want to know. >> nobody is k.say this is a spur of the moment thing. the guns found including semi automatic weapons were purchased here locally in the past month. and they found thousands of pounds of ammunition ordered online. >> lots of planning. thank you very much. >> and griff jenkins is here with us in aurora, colorado. he spoke with shirley copeland who was on a date last night when this unfolded. >> she was on a date night with his girlfriend. how are you doing? >> doing all right. doing okay. >> what happened? tell me what you saw. what you felt. >> well, i was in theater 8 versus theater 9 which it appears he entered. and i think that the immediate thought is when, when explosions happen, in the theater, and a gun fight scene,

you think someone is messing around. and when you realize people are running out are bleeding, and this report is that there is a shooter in the lobby and you can't leave, it changes your perspective a little bit. >> how long were you in this theater? take me through the time frame. start to finish. did you go through the crowd? how concerned were you for your safety? >> yeah. we basically with a feeling of helplessness. and about to minutes all you can do is pray. and when you're not allowed to leave. and you feel you're in a room. we ended up going through upper exit and through gas canisters to run into the lobby. and there is a police officer that yelled "get down". that has multiple meanings in

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we're back live in colorado james holmes was armed with several guns and police believe he booby trapped his apartment. jim, what are the police telling you tonight? >> as you know police have an active scene over there in the apartment where james holmes lived across perfect a hospital he was a young student there, a graduate student. the building found to be booby trapped there are trip wires in and around the apartment building. the police chief says he's never seen anything like this before. earlier in the morning they brought in big ladder trucks in the fire department and they put a probe inside then used a camera to take a look at what is in there. and that is when they realized

is so bad, police decided to back off for the night they're going to wait to go in tomorrow hopefully with daylight get a better look. it's been a long day and a sad day for a lot of people. especially investigators and families here. >> is this -- do you know whether or not the suspect is talking? >> the chief said he said a few things and it's holmes that tipped them off about the place being possibly booby trapped and there are other explosives. she says he would not talk about a motive or anything else beyond that. the chief very kurt when asked about that tonight. >> greta: is the police, the police department are they going to bring in people from out of town who might be experts in booby traps?

>> there is atf agents here and they pulled in here and at approximately 9:00 or sock there is a lot of man power and equipment. those people happen to be exnerts any sort of dismantling. and there is an encampment. there are tents set up. fire trucks around the building and there is wanting to make sure they can put out fires quickly. and there is five apartment buildings where people live in and around suspect building now evacuated tonight. >> and coming up gruesome shooting sending shock waves all over, even across the world. more on that, next. >> the canister fly across the

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depicted a shooting in a movie theater. the movie theater is my home. the idea that someone would violate that innocent and hopeful place in such a savage way is devastating to me. >> i wonder how much this will adjust people -- people have a short-term apprehension about going to the movies, particularly this one. >> reporter: we are hearing from many movie theater companies and chains, hard nipping security and midnight premiere, people will dress up like a character, one company is saying you can wear a cost europe, but you can't cover your face. >> and you can't leave the exit door and come back in. >> reporter: of course. hollywood celebs are tweeting, reaching out. we have one from justin timberlake saying he is saddened to hear about it and accepteds his prayers the folks of aurora. >> thank you. thank you for being with us

tonight. for the latest on the shooting here in colorado, stay tuned to fox newschannel throughout the weekend. good night from colorado. with a live edition of the o'reilly captioned by closed captioning services, inc. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. another sad day in america and that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. bad things happen to good people all the time. nobody knows why. it is just the way life is. once again, we have mass murder in america and the killer is a young man who was simply out of his mind. nobody's fault. no policy deficit. it is just an atrocity that is impossible to explain. this is the fifth time in 13 years an american has committed mass murder. columbine, colorado, april 20, 1999. 13 dead. 26 wounded. after two students shot them

down. the two then committed suicide. april 1 16, 2007. a deranged man on the virginia tech campus kills 33 people including himself. no motive for the homicides. november 5, 2009. army major nadal hassan kills 13 americans at fort hood, texas. currently charged with premeditated murder. his trial will begin next year. and january 8, 2011 gerald love lofner. now, we have 24-year-old james holmes from san diego who allegedly killed 12 people, wounding 59 others in a colorado movie theater. the crime took place in aurora a suburb of denver. a place where i lived for two years. aurora is a middle class neighborhood, just regular folks. colorado authorities are holding holmes and there is no question he did