was placed in there by authorities here. atf, f.b.i. is here as well as the local authorities that are working together and they have been going on for 30 hours trying to diffuse the situation. what they found was a circuit board in the kitchen of the apartment of the suspect and that connected to the makeshift hand grenade. he had bottles filled with explosives and chemicals if mixed together and then 30 mick sheriff grenades he put together and tied into the circuit board. what the water did was eliminate the circuit board. now, they are in the inside the apartment trying to determine what the next course of action is. they got rid of all the trip wires that were preventing them from getting inside. what they are going to do, they are getting small pieces of samples of these different devices they are finding. taking it out to f.b.i. and locals are going through and

testing it to see how explosive and dangerous it is. as they find these, if there is one or two or however many they find, there are dangerous enough they will bring in a dump truck. the dump truck will take the device out to east of downtown denver to an open area where they will explode in it sand or cover witness diesel and light it on fire. that is the plan so far. good news we talked to authorities they got a way to get inside. they have been able to get evidence out of there. they have been able to determine what the devices were doing and what they could do and no one has been injured. this is huge. it's been a successful day so far but quick to caution us. there is still a lot to do inside that apartment complex and lot to look at and be wary of. as we were told. the set up was intricate. he had wires and trip wires everywhere but the bomb

themselves are amateur. but as we know amateur bombs can do major damage. they are not taking any risks whatsoever as they cautiously go through the apartment of james hol himself. >> heather: i did have one question for you. what is being told to residents there at apartment complex. we talked about reverse 911 call. what are they being told in terms of getting back into their apartment? >> they are told, it's unfortunate the situation but they are going to have to wait it out. if you look over my left shoulder, there is a school and apartment complex, totally evacuated. you go over to james' complex and apartment complex evacuated. there are five apartment complexes evacuated and other homes, as well. nearest one, the one right there the nearest that has people inside is one right over here. it's basically blocked out by

two buildings. police have openly said they are very confident with their evacuation zone right now. that is where people are allowed to stay in this ongoing situation. they are told, we're sorry you are going to have to wait until we diffuse what is that that apartment. once they diffuse it they will allow people back in, but they want to make sure nothing can explode or fire or any issues. that will be a long process. >> heather: thank you very much. >> gregg: we adjudicate received word moments ago the news conference has been delayed by about ten minutes. that will be the governor and dan oats who the aurora chief of police. we'll get the latest details from them. in the meantime, investigators are still combing over the scene

of the site of massacre looking for evidence that could offer any additional clues into how all of this unfolded. here is gill alba with a former detective and president have alba investigations. what are some of the things they are looking for inside the theater? >> first they have to put it altogether. they have to bring it to the grand jury. they have to do interviews. get all the information in. all the stuff where he bought from, computer data, what he has in there, any kind of information that he has that will he had going to the theater any information builds on the case he is trying to build. >> gregg: are you surprised that the weaponry, two ..45 caliber glocks and assault weapon

essentially with high capacity magazines. you can click off, i don't know 60-100 rounds and 6,000 rounds of ammunition. >> it kind of tells me he set up his apartment, you had to wait in line to get to this movie because it was sold out. he had to come and wait in line. he left early. he set the timer for say 12 12:00 and let the door open. so he went to the movie theater at 20 after 12:00. he planned everything. i think that was diversion. he is trying to kill people in the building. now, he can do the shooting and get away with it. i think he was thinking of getting away with it and shooting it out with the police. maybe he didn't shoot out with the police, maybe that the assault rifle that he had jammed. so he had no other choice to give up.

>> gregg: he has a ballistic protective gear, including a helmet and neck protector, bulletproof vest and even got leggings that protect him outside in the car additional protective gear. yet he gave up without a fight? >> i don't think he really wanted to give up. i think the police came so fast at that location. i think the bomb that supposedly going off in the apartment, maybe he was counting on that. i don't think he wanted to give up. i think he was ready for a fight with all that ammunition. i think though careful on him quickly. he may have run out of amount anything. >> gregg: apparently one of his weapons jammed to the great fortune of survivors inside the theater. there could have been a lot more victims here. gill, one of his friends that he went to school with said this

was a guy who was deeply influenced and involved by films and movies that he saw. of course, we know he dyed his hair red and then he proclaimed himself inside the theater before he begin shooting and once he was apprehended by police, he said -- i am the joker. what does it tell you? >> you know, i'm not going to say the film did anything or that was the cause of this. this was planned at least three or four months ahead of time. it led up to this because of the last few days he was ordering that stuff on the computer. i think this guy was on some kind of medication or was on it or what kind of medication. i think this guy had a problem. he left school and i'm not sure he left. they may have asked him to leave for some loan. the more they do a history on him. they will find out why he actually did this. i don't really know.

if we're going to get that answer but it's frustrating. clearly there will be state murder charges and attempted murder charges filed. i am wondering about the feds as we continue to look at the scene of his apartment where they have yet to fully enter because of all the suspected bombs and chemical weaponry that may be inside there, i am wondering if federal terrorism could be filed against him. based on what police are telling us, he set up his music display on a timer for loud techno music on a loop to draw in authorities hoping that somebody would call police and police would enter and they would accidentally hit a trip wire and detonate the explosives. could that rise to terrorism? >> i'm not sure it could rise to terrorism. definitely the federal charges. the charges he is facing is really serious charges. i wouldn't worry about the

extent what they can get him for as far as terrorism or not. to me it's a form of terrorism because that is what terrorism is to scare us from living our daily lives or going to the movies to take the trains to doing stuff ourselves. that is what terrorists do. the american people we should keep doing what we're doing. >> gregg: gill, thank you very much. >> heather: police in aurora, they say they have diffused two of the booby traps inside the apartment. there were several loud blasts coming from the apartment. the bomb squad now working to make sure they have finally eliminated the danger, hopefully. kaitlin lives below james. kaitlin, thanks so much for joining us. what are your feelings today?

>> definitely with the fear of just what was going on right above my head. >> heather: take me through what happened last night. it begin around midnight. what happened at that time? >> right at midnight. my boyfriend and i who lives in the apartment with me were getting ready to go to sleep. we started to hear very loud techno music which was abnormal for our building. we never had any incident where people above us at all. so i decided that i should go upstairs and knock on his door and see if i could get someone to shut the music off. >> heather: you didn't just knock on the door. you knocked on the door, but you didn't get answer answer and then what? >> i noticed when i knocked on the door it moves a little bit like it was unlocked. i put my hand on the door handle and peering my head in there. something stopped me from doing that, a thought or intuition.

>> heather: kaitlin how do you feel today watching what is going on in that apartment knowing that he had it booby-trapped. if you had opened that door, what could have possibly happened next? >> i guess after seeing some of the reports the pice say it was intended to kill someone. that is incredibly scary but it makes me incredibly thankful for that instinct. >> heather: did you ever have occasion to run into james holmes, did you ever meet him or pass him in the hallway? >> i didn't even know he it was in building. i saw him in the area. he looked like a student like anybody else. >> heather: after the shooting occurred at the movie theater, house were you evacuated? what happened next in terms of getting you out of the apartment? >> it was around 12:00 that the s.w.a.t. team broke down the doors into our apartment complex

and started knocking on each individual door to evacuate us immediately. we had a few minutes to grab what we could in our case was cellphones luckily and wallet and keys. all of police, there were tons of them. it seemed very organized. all they did was make sure everybody was out. they were in their full swat gear. >> heather: what have you heard today in terms of going back inside. obviously they are working around the clock to secure the scene. have you been told anything in terms of a time frame? >> we haven't had any contact with law enforcement since we were evacuated two nights ago. so hopefully we will get some time today to figure out when we'll be able to either someone get things for us or be allowed back to the apartment. >> heather: where are you staying? >> we are staying with a relative on the other end of

town. >> heather: were you able to talk to any other neighbors in the area that were able to meet james holmes, that did know who he was? >> no, the only contact with people that were evacuated. we're pretty scattered right now. >> heather: when you were evacuated what did they have to say? >> most people say they don't know who was living there. i don't recall anybody saying more than they just recognize his name or his face. >> heather: you mention that you are scattered. were you there on the scene to witness any of the explosions, controlled explosions by law enforcement to try and relieve the traps and get into the apartment? >> no. we haven't been there for any of those explosions. that is probably a good thing. i don't know how i would be able to respond to that. >> heather: we definitely appreciate your insight. we are so thankful that you did not open that door last night, whatever it was that stopped you

from doing so. >> as i am. >> heather: and your boyfriend, when you were able to go back to your apartment and you spoke with your boyfriend, when did the music stop? >> it stopped exactly at 1:00. that is when we finally thought, i guess we can go to bed and we were woken up by swat. >> heather: we are glad you are okay. >> gregg: this is a fox news alert. i want to take you live to the news conference taking place in aurora, colorado. we expect to hear from two people. the governor who has issued several statements expressing his sorrow and outrage over what he regarded as a senseless event. also the chief of police. >> my name is steve hogan the mayor of city of you a error rasmt our city endured an unbelievable tragedy yesterday.

we're still reeling, but as is evidenced by the beginning everyone who is here today, all those that were here yesterday who represent federal, state and local government and all the messages and support we have received from literally around the world, people giving us their thoughts and prayers, we can, i think, start this process of -- natural process of grieving and healing. i started today talking with representatives of our community of faith and how involved they are and want to be in our community and to be helpful to our citizens.

also, went over to the university hospital and met with some of the families, some of those folks who were so badly injured. i tried do what little that i could do on behalf of the city to let them know that we care, that we will do whatever it takes for as long as it takes to try to help them. there will be more activities. obviously, i'm not the only one involved here. as i mentioned we've got a lot of other elected officials. everyone has come together as a team to try and do what needs to be done in this community to address this issue. we'll continue burke i know you need to hear a great deal more

from the chief and what i would like to do for a moment is introduce the governor of the state state of colorado. >> before i do say anything. i want to recognize and thank mayor hogan. he has been a rock to this entire thing. he has helped coordinate this entire process to make sure that people know this is isolated, this is one event. this has no relevance to what people should expect today or tomorrow or the next day. when you have seen this, they have done an incredible job. it is simply put incredible the ability of these guys to work

together. the f.b.i. the atf were working side by side all morning out on this. that integration there is going to be possible silver lining but that integration but ability to respond in a disaster. they had police in a couple minutes and ambulances arriving within two and a half minutes with 70 injured individuals including a fatalities, be able to get them so rapidly so they were under a doctor's care, it's nothing short of a miracle. it would not happen without a lot of training and i think mayor hogan and entire team, all the first responders, what they have done demonstrates something

it's a great team. despite the event, this is one of safest cities in one of safest states of any country in the world. going movie last night trying to demonstrate we're not going to back down. i spent a good part of this morning, we watched through the video cameras some of the activities but we went to the hospitals and visited the families and some of the survivors and kind of heard their stories. it just can't help but move you to hear people that through their actions, their selflessness saved other people's lives. it allows you to hopefully shift a little bit and say what a miracle it wasn't worse.

what an amazing thing to live in a community where there are so many individuals, despite this one unspeakably troubled individual, there are so many others that are doing what is right. we have a huge outpouring of people to support the recovery. a number of people who were hurt were hurt badly. a number of them are going to have lifetimes of recovery. we've always started raising money for that. we authorized the transfer of victim compensation reserve at state government. we authorized the first installment of $200,000 to make sure we help victims. giving first -- givingfirst.org is central place where we try to make sure that medical bills can be paid but also people can have a fair shot at rebuilding their

lives. there is no way we can turn back and no way we can reverse what has happened but we can take this events that are inconceivable and do everything we can to make it better. again, i can't emphasize how much mayor hogan's leadership has inspired us. i got a call from mayor of colorado springs and he heard about the notion we're going to have central planning and his first statement, how can i help? how can the people of colorado help the people of aurora. that is what makes this country great. >> chief daniels will be coming up in a second. you'll also be hearing from

chief mike garcia. i would like to take second and later we'll be saying more, but the first responders in this tragedy was unbelievable. police department and fire department, the call center people, the ambulance folks with rural metro the number of jurisdictions that provided immediate support, if there is a silver lining we didn't lose more lives. it's because our first speorndz not only did their job but they went, responders not only did their job but went above and beyond. one was hit with buckshot in his back. broken rib. punctured lung, broken collarbone, came out his back at

the base of his neck. he is doing well believe it or not. is that because he got to the hospital and because the doctors and nurses at the hospital did the best job they can do. so these first responders can't be thanked enough. there is no way. i hope as time goes on we can see more and more coverage of the job that they do. from here i will give it to chief danos. >> thank you mr. mayor. >> i think i would like to start with the effort, i was up there this morning. it was his robot in the location and we were joking about how we were going to pay for the robot if something went wrong. so far nothing has gone wrong and i their we have eliminated,

we believe we have eliminated the major threat but we have some more work to do there. i don't quite understand this bomb stuff. i'm very happy to ask special agent of the f.b.i. and explain what we were doing and what we accomplished. we couldn't have done it without the help of f.b.i. and number of bod squads, especially adams county but i rather jim explain that. he will take questions to the patterson street location only. >> thank you, chief. >> so the u.s. attorney, f.b.i. and atf we have worked very closely with the aurora police department to address this complex investigation. i wanted to reemphasize what the chief covered. local bomb squad here in colorado is wo one of the most capable in the country with strong pre-established relationships between all partners. the assets with technical expertise provided by the

sheriff's office denver police department, atf and the f.b.i. collaborated routinely with suspicious packages but rarely anything this complex. last night, the local state and federal resources here in colorado were joined by the f.b.i.'s national assets from virginia. these additional assets are part of the critical incident response group in the laboratory division. they include on team expertise, explosive sampling chemists and senior scientists, post blast recovery ex perh, also bomb techs and their purpose is to support the operations and preserve the evidence inside the apartment including and probably most importantly the explosives

and/or incendiary devices that were found in the apartment. public safety is obviously paramount throughout the operation. my hat is off to the professionals from the aurora fire department who kept us safe throughout the dynamic operations that occurred at street for days. robot techniques were used to look at multiple booby traps and multiple incendiary devices. so briefly what occurred we first had to make entry with the robot. that robot was skillfully driven by one of adams county bomb techs. once we got rid of that first booby trap which was wire across the front door. we had to neutralize a

hyperbolic mixture. once that was disrupted the tech nighz did a marvelous job. they want to the next i.e. d. filled with an unknown substance and they had to attack the triggering mechanism and they did that very skull any. then we saw additional triggering mechanisms, wires and fuses. i want to be clear and reemphasize with what the chief said earlier. the threat has been, it went very well. the threat was not been completely eliminated. it has been significantly reduced. we still have bomb technicians and evidence response recovery folks that literally have to go in and handle unknown substances

with potentially explosives or incendiary devices. an extensive amount of evidence is being collected. we will bring this portion of the investigation to a close and allow the families back in their homes here probably by tomorrow. all evidence will be sent to the terrorist analytical center at quantico. we asked for your patients and with professionals pentagon themselves in harm's way, our hearts are with them and our hearts are certainly with the victims and their families. i will take some questions. just a second. i want to what the chief said yesterday, this case will be tried inside a court. i have to be very careful with my responses. i do not wanted to jeopardize a

future prosecution. >> sir, you said the items inside was accelerants and how are you sure they are what you say they are? >> again, i'm not going elaborate on this. we have done field tests but we are sending the evidence back to quantico. they will make a definitive conclusion as to what those are. >> what would happen if a neighbor opened that door instead of you guys? >> that is very good question. it was an extremely dangerous environment. if a neighbor, assuming a pedestrian would have walked in that door or first responder they would have sustained significant injuries or lost their lives. >> are you preserving the crime scene and delicate process to make sure you didn't disrupt

things you want to look at down the line? >> correct. as we went through the operation today it was very calculated. it was a very phased approach and briefed. robot made entry. we were able to get rid of first obstacle. we were analyzing the first unknown device. once we were past that, that robot was looking around for evidence it could pull out of there. the reason for that, if something should go on in the next phase of operations we would have lost the evidence. so it was very slow and methodical progression, all in an effort to preserve the evidence at each phase of the operation. again i'm not -- i want to protect are the tactics and techniques that law enforcement has in it's tool kit. i don't want to discuss that. >> can you talk to us about what

you saw at the scene based on your extensive personal experience in law enforcement. give us your perspective from yourself. >> i appreciate the question. it was certainly sophisticated device. i really don't want to comment on the sophistication of the device itself. again, that will be made known by the experts by the lab and put forward in a court of law. yes, i have overseas experience and responding to critical incidents and i have dealt with improvised explosive devices in many theaters and this was challenging for all involved. i want to applaud the efforts of the joint bomb squad here. they operate each and every day in a collaborative environment. it went seamlessly and rolled in national assets. thank you.

>> again, there is unfortunately quite a bit of available on the internet but we don't want to go into any of the tactics and procedures of what mr. holmes may have done, again, we don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. >> i'm going to turn over to chief oats at that point and i will remain for questions afterwards. >> we've got other material to cover. new information with regard to the investigation. we became aware that suspect over the last four months had a high volume of deliveries, commercial deliveries of packages to both his work and home address. this begins to explain how he got his hands on all the magazines and ammunition yesterday we talked about yesterday. we also think he begins to explain some of the materials he

had in his apartment. one 69 things we are processing as you might expect is potential defenses, but we're what we're seeing is evidence, i think, some calculation and deliberation. we thought we would share that with you. we are running down all those leads. this is an example of the partnership with f.b.i. is so great. if we find out our suspect ordered something from someplace in washington state, for instance, i don't have to figure out how to find out what that was. i can talk to my friend to jim here and we can run down that stuff quickly. we have work getting subpoenas in some cases but hopeful area of investigative lead for us. our tip line is working well as of today. we have received 84 leads as a result of tips. they are different leads, phone calls from people who knew the subject. those kinds of things. we're working closely with the

f.b.i. to run down all those leads. i'll offer the tip line. anybody who knows anything about our suspect or anything about these events, 720-913-stop. it's the crime stoppers line. with regard to the theater the major crime scene we have completed a thorough search of that facility for any further hazards and there are none. we are in good shape there. we are working and removed all the personal effects that were left behind. as you might imagine, things left behind by people as they fled. there is a whole lot of material. they talked about the need to get that stuff back. including wallets, handbags and shoes and clothing. basically our goal now that it's been removed is to begin a process on monday, we're not sure how quickly we can get this done but to start to make sha

stuff available to the victims and their families, provide their personal effects with no forensic link that requires us to hold it as evidence. we will work through our crime lab to make that stuff available to the families on monday. with regard to our challenges on patrol we are hopeful to get back to normal operations as early as 5:00 p.m. this evening. going back to the theater, we think we'll be out of there in terms of our forensic work by monday. we're making tuesday available for the defense to come in and look at the location. we're hoping to hand the theater back to the business owners for resuming operations whenever they choose. we hope to hand it back to them on wednesday. we hope to stop and get back to

normal at 5:30 today. i was talking to chief murphy and i can't say enough of all the senator leadership to say enough that all we have put our cops through and civilian support staff and our organization in the last 48 hours, just extraordinary work. we are so proud of them. we are happy we are going to try to get back to some semblance of normalcy this evening. interesting developments. some of the dignitaries today include colleagues, andy who is the special agent in charge of the atf. with me also is doug abraham is the chief of police for the university of colorado and medical center complex. doug and i talked today. there was some activity on that campus as a result of the suspect's involvement in that campus as a student.

there were concerns about what he might have had access to. as you may or may not know, that is a research facility out of an abundance of caution, doug and his police department and staff at the campus, there was no evidence he had access to any dangerous materials, whether any dangerous materials were missing over the last 24 hours they have done a search of bio hazards and radioactive materials and they have confirmed that servicing secure. he had no access to any of those materials and that nothing was missing. now, yesterday some nonessential personnel in some of the research facilities were evacuated or asked to leave the facility for the day. the reason there was not there was a threat. those facilities could be swept by bomb dogs will.

they brought in quite a few bomb dogs and did a search of the facilities and there were no hazard hazardous found. -- hazards were found. today is business is as usual on the university of colorado medical center campus. with regard to mr. holmes a lot of questions about motive. we're not going to talk about motive but ri reassure you again, with the assistance the friends and f.b.i. the f.b.i. behavioral analysis is fully plugged into the investigation. those folks are talented in what they do. over the coming weeks and months they will be working very closely to figure out what his motivation was. whatever we find out we will present that in court and that will help us in getting justice to the victims. back to the apartment location, i want to emphasize, again, we

talk about motive. we talks about defenses. you talk about other things. make no mistake this apartment was designed, i say, based on everything i've seen, to kill whoever entered it. okay? who was most likely to enter that location after he planned and executed this horrific crime. it was going to be a police officer. make no mistake what was going on there, you can think we are angry, we sure are hell is. what has happened to these wonderful people and what he threatened to do to one of our police officers. we'll see how it plays out in court. there is no question what the intent was behind whoever designed that device for whoever opened the door. okay? we don't expect any more briefings with regard to that location. here is what we expect will happen the rest of the day. we are hopeful that our explosive folks will get done there by 7:00 tonight.

if they are successful and we can remove all the hazards, we can allow the occupants of the other four adjoining buildings will be able to return to their homes sometime this evening. evidence recovery will keontd to take some time. so including some of the other hazardous material that might be in there. we aren't sure when we can get the residents back in. hopefully that will be no later than tomorrow. again, i can't thank enough friends from the f.b.i. and bomb squad and denver and adams county. at this time my colleague and leader of bunch of heroes, firefighters of city of aurora, chief mike garcia would like to make a few remarks. >> thank you, dan. i would like to make three brief

points on behalf of the aurora fire department. first is our hearts go out and condolences go out to the families and victims of this senseless and shameless act of violence. we truly feel for the families and families and victims and our prayers are with you. second point i would like to make, is how proud i am of our firefighters. the last 48 hours the last couple of days, it's mindboggling for me. but the professionalism and courage of our firefighters is just remarkable. i'm very proud of you. job well done. it takes more than just firefighters. it takes a team. in aurora, it begins with our dispatchers, the police, it's a

the hospitals and it's courageous citizens that stepped up that night. we could not have done this by ourselves. any fire chief he has limited resources no matter how much we train. i also want to give you international association of firefighters and fire chiefs and state organization as well as metro fire chief. help they gave us through this time is remarkable. i would like to share an example. the new york fire and police department, they contacted us and they said one of the lessons they learned after 9/11 is you have to take care of your own. that is speaks volumes to me. it would be common sense. they sent a team of specialized professional counselors and they are with us today. that speaks volume.

thank you. third point i want to make is that the city of aurora and the denver metro area, it is a safe place. its safe place to live, raise your family, have a business. the shameless act of one man to make some difficult for families to move on. what makes aurora an all-american citizens is how we handle these crisis and challenges. go out and see a movie. go out into your city. don't be afraid. thank you. thanks mike. we also wanted to offer, some of the media coverage has turned to the victims as i think it should and families what they suffered through. those are the people we need to remember. colorado is very special place,

i had the privilege of working in two other states but colorado is very special how it services victims. care ohly shay is supervisor of victims services unit. i want you to know what the victims have been through and she will speak about the victims so carol. thank you. yesterday, we were faced with the unthinkable task of bringing life changing information into people's lives. our community system, witnesses and families were thrust in their worst nightmare. this is grueling process of people stepping forward and saying my family member was in

that theater. first we were able to identify who are being interviewed as witnesses and ultimately those who were at hospitals and reunite families and ultimately identifying the families whose worst feer had become a reality. those are the families who had members that were deceased. we did victim notification to those families. the process, by the way, is painful. it's it's difficult for families. yet these families inspire us by the strength they draw, not something from within themselves and some other family members to get through these difficult moments. >> gregg: you have been

listening to a live news conference the scene of the worst shooting in american history. modern day with so many victims. a great many survivors but some of them still in critical condition. you heard from the f.b.i. an official who said the threat has not been completely eliminated from inside the suspect's apartment there are still apparently incendiary and explosive devices there. they need to be terribly careful. it was an extremely dangerous situation, he said. if anybody had opened doot door and stepped inside they would likely have lost their lives if not had been horribly injured. what we also learn from dan oates who is the chief of police there was a high volume of deliveries to the suspect's apartment over the last several weeks or months. deliveries they suspect are not just some of the weapons but the ammunition, 6,000 rounds of

ammunition including high capacity clips. the assault rifle. evidence that he said is of calculation and deliberation which are the essential elements that would belie the insanity defense. joining us is defense attorney and former prosecutor lis wiehl is a fox news analyst. >> calculation and deliberation it would tend to show the wek would show right from wrong? >> which is the insanity defense. >> he didn't know right from prong. the point is he allegedly planned it. he knew what he was doing. thought all these things out, had all these devices, that shows you knew right from strong and you had deliberation. >> gregg: jared allow fner has yesterday to stand trial but he

isn't competent to stand trial. it's different? >> it takes a lot of expert evaluation, psychological evaluations. i think in this instance, as we stated, he is showing it was deliberate rat it will be a difficult role but defense attorneys. >> what if he is suffering from schizophrenia. he lives in an alternative reality. >> you get away from the insanity defense versus can he help his lawyer? does he understand his charges and he can help his lawyer. >> gregg: he thinks he is the screoker? >> then that is the problem. the prosecution is going to get around that. >> gregg: spent, it's been a year and a half and jared loughner has yet to stand trial. >> how can he be once a student and once you are insane.

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>>. >> heather: welcome back. aurora medical center is one of several facilities treating victims.

swedish medical center is another. their spokesperson, nicole williams joins us on the phone. thank you for joining us. >> sure. >> heather: how many patients have i treated at your facility. i understand there were four? >> yes, we had a total of four patients from this whole incident and today has been a unique day as they stabilize we have had a chance to to know them a little more. originally after the shooting we received three victims. 18-year-old male, 20-year-old male and 29-year-old female. the 18-year-old was treated, had a wound to forearm and was discharged yesterday early orange. we still the 20-year-old and 29-year-old and they are in stable condition. they are starting to share their stories. they probably will be with us for some time. >> heather: i'm sorry, go ahead. >> our fourth patient was

actually the wife of the 20-year-old male. she came over to the hospital because she heard he was at the hospital. she ended up being a patient herself because the nurses noticed she had had shrapnel embedded in her head. >> heather: good news you are sharing us, two critical patients are in stable condition. thank you so much for your work. we appreciate it. we'll have more continuing coverage of the tragedy in aurora, colorado right after this break. stay with us as the situation continues to develop. [ man ] ever year, sophia and i use the points we earn with our citi thankyou card for a relaxing vacation. ♪ sometimes, we go for a ride in the park. maybe do a little sightseeing. or, get some fresh air. but this summer, we used our thank youpoints to just hang out with a few friends in london.

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>> that we didn't lose more lives. it's because our first responders not only did their job, they went above and beyond. >> heather: that was colorado governor john hickenlooper releasing brand-new details moments ago in the investigation into the movie theater massacre. i'm heather childers. >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. shear a look at hot investigation has gone so far today. bomb technicians using a robot to disarm booby traps inside the home of alleged suspect james holmes. federal investigators now say they're in the process of collecting huge amounts of evidence from both the movie theater itself and the suspect's apartment which will be then sent to a lab for analysis.

there is some pretty good news for all the evacuees around holmes' apartment complex. police now say they may be able to return to their apartments once everything is rendered safe at that location. >> heather: now let's go to adam housley who is live at the scene with the very latest. what's going on now? >> yeah. the chance that some of these surrounding apartments people might be allowed later this evening, that's the idea. it could be pushed into tomorrow. the good news so far is they have made significant headway. there is still significant danger inside that apartment. i'm going to give you a live look. you can see the cherry picker that comes from the firefighter, the ladder still here, has been all morning. there are technician examines the rot bots inside. they did give us good information about the danger that existed and still exists abou how someone had opened that front door, whether it is a police officer or a neighbor where we heard this morning, whoever opened that door would

have faced likely serious outcome from the booby trap that was set up -- the booby traps set up. there were a couple things that happened today to help alleviate some of that threat and help bomb tech nixes and the robots got in other words, an assessment team of the first thing i want to show you is that explosion, the loudest of the three so apartment take a listen. (explosion) we were warned from three warns. thenned loudest of the explosion s came. that explosion right there was a water bomb, we're told. that's what they call it, layman term. basically what it did was water explosion, water device put inside to disarm a circuit board in the kitchen.

that's what we were told. it basically connected everything. we've been told there are 30 bombs inside. there were more than that. 30 different home made hand grenade-type devices inside. there were also bottles that were set to explode, as well as other chemicals set to mix together and cause a fire. when you talk to federal agents off cam remarks they'll say while there was some danger with these very makeshift bomb, the real danger was if this had gone off, they believe the entire complex would have burned to the ground because there were a lot of devices and things to burn in there. they said the set-up was very intricate, but the bombs themselves were very amateur. what they're doing now is taking out -- you'll see atf. can you see the atf agent? they're going in with the f.b.i they're bringing out the pieces of evidence from each one of these device they're finding, testing it under a tent. we have other video we shot earlier as they were doing that very early on before the last explosion, in fact, where they were bringing out some of the stuff they were getting it. they were testing it and

determine what to do. what they're doing is going through the rest of the apartment, insuring there are no more trip wires, circuit board. idea isn't to explode the ordinance there. it's to disarm the technical part that would make it explode f that makes sense. once they go through and dissect all that stuff out, they're going to bring in dump trucks and remove all the powder, remove all these devices, the bottles of liquid, and the makeshift grenades. they're going to bring them all out, put them in the dump truck and drive out to the east part of town where they'll dump them out and either explode them on their own or dump diesel on them examine burn them. everything in that apartment will come out that is one of these device. once that's done, then they'll allow the people in that apartment specifically, the apartment complex specifically to go home. that may be a couple of days. there is still a threat specifically inside his apartment. back to you. >> heather: certainly want to make sure all those people stay safe. thank you very much, adam housley reporting live. >> gregg: we are getting some new information on the dozens of

innocent victims wounded in this senseless tragedy, trauma patients began flooding area hospitals just minutes after the gunman opened fire. doctors and nurses continuing to work feverishly around the clock healing the sick and wounded. but some patients are fighting for their lives. anna kooiman has more. what have we heard about those in area hospitals? >> the 58, 11 are still in critical condition. they're spread out over multiple hospitals. at the medical center, seven patients still being assisted. down from 18. three are on the trauma floor and four are in the intensive care unit. one victim describes what happened. >> once people i guess got over thinking it was fire crackers or what have you, i saw people running both directions towards

the top and then towards the main exits on the bottom and that's when you could see people falling. >> during a news conference this afternoon, the mayor of aurora thanked first responders for doing their job, crediting them with saving lives. >> one of the people that i met with this morning at the hospital is somebody who was hit with buck shot in his back, broken rib, punctureed lung, broken collarbone, came out his back at the base of his neck. he's doing well right now, believe it or not. that's because he got to the hospital and because the doctors and nurses at the hospital do the best job that they can do. >> gregg, doctors continue to monitor the wound as family and

friends hold vigils outside. but the patients, we're told at this time, are stable. >> gregg: we're starting to learn about those who were tragically killed. tell us a bit more about them. >> among the 12 killed is 27-year-old matt mcquinn who died while shielding his girlfriend, samantha, from the gun fire. six-year-old veronica moser also died. her mother, 25-year-old ashley moser, is in critical condition with a bullet in her throat and abdomen. 24-year-old sports blog, jessica, who wrote about surviving a shooting in canada was shot in the leg and then in the head. 23-year-old my kallah medic, her family said waiting to hear the news one way or the other was extremely tough. 27-year-old petty officer third class john layer mere was among the dead. navy notification team contacted his family last night. and alex sullivan, a husband, brother and son, also killed. alex planned to ring in his

27th birthday at the movie and then celebrate his first wedding anniversary on sunday. official vigil is taking place sunday night at 6:30 at aurora city hall for the 12 victims. you can visit giving first.org to make donations. gregg? >> gregg: thank you very much. the star of the "dark knight rises" now speaking out about the colorado shooting. christian bale releasing the following statement. quote, words cannot express the horror that i feel. i cannot begin o true will he understand the pain and grief of the victims and their loved ones. my heart goes out to them. >> heather: brand-new reaction pouring in from all around the country. concerns and prayers for the victims of the movie massacre. and the people of aurora, colorado. american flags flying at half-staff. in washington, our nation's leaders reflecting on this tragic loss of life. peter doocy reports from washington. >> the air waves in colorado are

missing attack ads this weekend after both the obama campaign and romney campaign reached out to affiliate tv stations in the state and asked them to pull their so-called contrast spots for the time being and the political truth isn't isolated to colorado because in his weekly address today, president obama reiterated a point he made friday morning at the end of his abbreviated trip o florida that now is a time for prayer and reflection and not for politics. >> our time here is limited and it is precious. what matters in the end are not the small and trivial things which so often consume our lives. it's how we choose to treat one another and love one another. >> the speaker of the house, john boehner, seems to their that feeling. >> we join president obama in sending condolences and prayers to the loved ones of those who were killed and wounded. we also thank god for the police, the first responders, the doctors, the nurses whose swift and heroic efforts saved lived. >> yesterday there was no music

and there were no campaign signs at mitt romney's event. and romney didn't say anything about the weak economy or the president's record either because he decided to deliver remarks as a father, grandfather, and american and not someone running for president. showing that even in a tight presidential race, both sides are willing to put politics and poll numbers on the back burner so the families of those most directly impacted by the violence in aurora can begin to put their lives back together. heather. >> heather: peter doocy reporting from washington. thank you, peter. >> gregg: let's take you minute by minute through the horrible time line of events. the premiere of the "dark knight rises" began at midnight. just 20 minutes into the film, witnesses say the suspect emerged and suddenly threw some kind of a gas canister into the crowd. it was then the first shot was fired into the air. for the next 15 to 20 minute, those shots did not stop. with the gunman apparently targeting his victims in cold blood. police finally notified of the

shooting at 12:39 a.m. >> heather: the shooting sparking a panic inside the movie theater as movie goers tried to escape the deadly hail of bullets. and now more people are coming forward to share their remarkable stories of survival. joining us is taylor, who have in the theater, theater 9, where the shooting occurred when it happened. thank you for joining us. >> no problem. >> heather: tell me about the first thing that you remember happening. >> i remember, like, the right door opening and, like, seeing the guy, like, army, like black armor and a gas mask on and black helmet. then he, like, threw something and like, i could just picture, like, i remember exactly like how he threw. and it landed at the row in front of me. the room just like started to fill with gas. then he like shot up in the air

and it was like get down, get down of the my friend next to me, like threw me down with him. and like that's the first thing i remembered. it was like all bunched together. >> heather: when you first saw him appear, what did you think was happening? did you think it was possibly part of the movie premiere itself, some special effects that had been planned? >> yeah, like after the movie all my friends examine i talked about it and we all thought it had just been part of the movie at first. >> heather: when he threw the gas canister, which i understand is the first thing that happened, what physically happened to you? could you see? could you breathe? >> i kind of just froze and then after that once i hit the ground, i just, like felt myself choking up and i couldn't breathe. >> heather: when he started firing shots, ammunition, did you think it was -- we've heard a lot of witnesses say that they thought it was fireworks,

something like that. what did it sound like to you? >> yeah. at first it sounded like fireworks. i saw some sparks and like, i don't know. yeah. i'd say it sounded liar fireworks. >> heather: did he say anything at all? was he saying anything or yelling anything when this was happening? >> no. he was so calm about it. that's like why at first we thought it was part of the show. he was so calm. he have didn't say anything. if you didn't like try to rob anyone. it was so calm. >> heather: so you thought maybe he was there to rob people and he was going to tell what you to do next? >> yeah. but he didn't say anything at all. >> heather: so you're on the ground with your friend. you're trying to shield yourself from the bullets. what happened after that? >> they stopped for like a little bit, like for maybe like a couple seconds and everyone started to run. but then he started to fire again.

so at that point i was just like down on the ground and i couldn't breathe. my eyes were watering. >> heather: so you tried to run. how did you eventually get out? >> once they stopped, i ran up the stairs to the emergency exit and once i got up there, like i just remember my whole body being wet and i thought i had got shot. but i started to touch myself and i was fine and that's when the guy next to me was just bleeding on his right side. >> heather: a lot of people didn't make it out of that theater. we're so glad that you did. did you see any of those people that weren't going to make it out? >> no. i kind of just tried not to look around. i just, like focused on getting out of there. >> heather: taylor, we are certainly glad you were able to make it out. your friend that you mentioned that was on the ground with you, were they able to make it out as

well? >> yeah. i was with three of my friends and all three of them made it out. >> heather: god bless you, taylor. we appreciate you joining us and sharing with us your story. we're so glad you made it out okay. thank you. >> gregg: what in the world causes somebody to carry out this kind of heinous attack? were there warning signs? the suspect's family may have missed or maybe they did take notice of them. what should happen to him now? we're going to talk to a criminologist about the alleged shooter and a possible motive coming up next. >> heather: plus, the suspect's apartment where crews have been work around the clock to disarm explosives inside. >> get outside, get the police to come in and check the situation. once i got outside, that's when i noticed i was shot. it entered in here and i got the shrapnel stuck in my arm and they don't know if they'll be

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>> heather: check of the headlines. investigators reclassifying the case of two missing iowa cousins as an abduction after a dive team failed to find their bodies in a lake.

the girls were last seen one week ago. and the u.s. expressing dire new concerns over syria's stock pile of weapons. there are reports of critical border crossings being seen. hundreds of demonstrators flooding the streets in madrid, spain, angry over the high unemployment and financial crisis. >> gregg: he is described as a brilliant student, former high school soccer player and somewhat of a shy guy. so what caused james holmes to suddenly snap and allegely open fire inside a crowded colorado movie theater? were there warning signs his family may have missed? what should happen to him know? dr. fox joins us, a criminologist. why would somebody like this who has no violent past, in fact, is described by people who knew him as meek and introverted and

extremely shy suddenly open fire and commit mass murder? >> most mass murderers do not have criminal records actually. but you suggested what made him suddenly snap. they don't just suddenly snap and go berserk. these are well planned executions. generally the planning goes on for weeks, months, what to wear, what weapons to bring, where, how and when. that's, by the way, why they're so calm ask cool at the crime scene because it's all part of the planning process. despite his promise, shear a guy who dropped out of school. you find a history of failure, even though there may be some success, who is socially isolated, don't have a lot of close friends and family to help him get through the hard times examine blames other people. he's suffering, he's angry. he feels like a victim and he's trying to make others pay as

well. >> gregg: so this is at the retribution for perceived slights or insults? >> exactly. mass killers do feel like they're victims. it's perhaps a paranoid view of the world to be sure, but i say that in a loose sense because we're not talking about profound mental illness. someone who is truly out of touch with reality to the point where perhaps an insanity defense would apply does not have the clear headedness to carry out this kind of methodical blood bath. so we're talking about someone who very carefully and methodically decides to kill, to get even, and the other problem is you can't predict it. >> gregg: even though there may be the legal definition of insanity, just so our audience know, and it's a rules that applies in colorado, a mental disease or defect so severe that the suspect does not know right from wrong. you're right, the calculation, the deliberation, the planning would seem to belie the essential elements of an

insanity defense and yet i keep coming back to what people observed. two things, first of all, before he opens fire in the theater, he announces, i am the joker. of course, he's already dyed his hair red. when he's arrested by police, he again says, i am the joker, and he begins to cackle in the infamous character's laugh. now, that invites the question, is this someone who is having a psychotic episode? is he delusional? does he live in an alternative reality that could conceivably in the ends support insanity? >> well, there have been no evidence of that to those who knew him in the past of someone who was that -- >> gregg: well, there is his classmate who said he was incredibly influenced by movies, by films and the characters within. again, that begins to invite -- >> as do many people. >> gregg: does he take on a

persona, a alternative reality. >> so many people are influenced and they identify with characters in films. they fantasize about that. that does not make them schizophrenic. we have someone who identifies with a powerful character. what this essentially is, the motive here, we could suggest, is someone who wants to be strong and dominant and powerful, and superior and to show the world that he is -- he is a force to be dealt with. not just at the movie theater, but at home where he has these booby traps. >> gregg: when his mother was initially literally within hours of the shooting approached in san diego by media, she said, you've got the right person. as if to suggest that she knew, yes, that would have been my son. so the family likely would have seen warning signs? >> but that's after the fact. when she already knows there has been a shooting, when she

already knows her son lived there. it is perhaps not a surprise to her. but she would not have anticipated that in advance. there are lots of yellow flags that only turn red once the blood has spilled. hindsight is 20/20. crystal clear. and the problem is that there is a large pool of americans who are angry, frustrated, isolated, identify with powerful figure, have access to guns, they fit the profile, but they will not kill. we can not -- there is a predictable profile, but we can not predict the specific individuals who carry out these blood baths. >> gregg: dr. james fox, thank you so much for your insight. appreciate it. >> sure. thank you. >> heather: f.b.i. and local law enforcement working around the clock in colorado trying to piece together the final moments before that movie theater massacre. we'll talk to former f.b.i. official about how the two agencies are working together and what lays ahead for them in

the coming days. >> gregg: john scott is live outside the movie theater with the very latest on the investigation. john? >> a few miles away, gregg, the danger is said to be diminishing at the apartment that the suspect is alleged to have booby trapped and the anger here is rising. police say a deliberative process that was an attempted assault, attempted murder in that murder. we'll have more coming up stay in the moment sanya.

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>> gregg: the danger is far from over in aurora, colorado, where bomb disposal experts have been meticulously working throughout the day trying to disarm explosives inside the home of a man accused in the movie theater massacre.

crews set off a series of small detonations earlier today in an attempt to render safe trip wires and other explosives in suspect james holmes' apartment. john scott is live in aurora, colorado. what's the latest on this? >> well, gregg, they say that the danger has largely diminished. it is not completely over, but that series of explosions that you were talking about has gone a long way to defuse the situation, a situation that has police very angry. they say that clearly whoever set those bombs and the presumption is that it was the suspect, the owner of the apartment, james holmes, whoever did that was out to kill, was out to assault whoever opened the door of that apartment the first time. take a listen to the police spokeswoman. >> the trip wire was set up to clearly detonate when somebody

entered that apartment and if it's set up to kill that person. >> as it happened, the first person who nearly opened that door was the downstairs neighbor who heard bizarrely music coming on very loud volume at midnight in the apartment. he was a guy who never played music and apparently at midnight, all of a sudden she hears this loud techno music. so against her boyfriend's better wishes, she went up there to confront the neighbor, to ask him to turn the music down. she put her hand on the door, felt the door knob was loose and ready to be unlocked and ready to be opened. she almost opened that door. if she had, she very likely might not have been with us right now. i talked to her about it a couple of hours ago. you put your hand on the door and tried the knob? >> i did. i did put my hand on the door and try the knob. it did seem like it was unlocked. but something told me it

probably wasn't a good idea for me to go in there. so i just went back downstairs and called the nonemergency police number. >> did you think about opening it a crack? >> i definitely did think about opening it just to yell in there, peek my head in and say hey, knock off. but like i said, something told me not to. >> and subsequently you found out that that door had been wired, trip wired with a booby trap? >> yes. that's terrifying, but i'm also very grateful that i have that instinct. >> she's about to celebrate her birthday and says this one will be truly significant. also with us now, shale jackson, who is 18 years old. he was in the front row of theater 9 that night. in fact, you still got your batman movie ticket from that theater. there it is, from theater 9, the "dark knight rises." you were in the front row. you saw the suspect come into the back of the theater?

>> yes, i did. we were watching the movie for about 15 minutes into the movie. right after we had just seen the villain of the movie. we hear a rustling with the door on the right side and i see this man come in, like blacked out, all black, gas mask, and i'm thinking like, maybe this is like a part of the theater, like they just want to do a little prank on us or something. but i noticed he opened his tear gas can and you could hear it going off, like you could hear like the smoke coming out. and he throws it across the theater onto the left side. i was staying at the bottom of the front. it landed at the top, like at the top of the stairs. i heard a big explosion, everybody started to panic and everything. that's when he pulled out his shotgun and started laying off shots. as that happened, i was behind the chair i was sitting by and i ran out. i was lucky enough to be by the exit door. >> since you were in the front row, you had easy access to the exit? >> exactly. it was crazy because he came in

on the exact opposite side of where i was sitting. i was on the left side of the theater front row. he came in on the right side of the theater front row and let off shots. >> i'm sure you're glad to be alive today. >> i'm thankful. >> unfortunately so many others are not. shale jackson, thanks for sharing your story with us. once again, authorities believe they have largely defused the trouble at the apartment building. they say that perhaps later on tonight some of the surrounding buildings will be allowed to be reoccupied. the building that the suspect apartment itself is in probably not until tomorrow at the very earliest. back to you. >> gregg: john scott, certainly knows the communities in colorado. you were born and raised there. thank you so much. >> heather: the f.b.i. and local authorities working side by side right now trying to piece together the horror that went on inside that colorado movie theater. investigators combing every inch of the building as we speak. for more on the interagency

cooperation, what lies ahead, what's next, bill gavin, the former chief executive for the f.b.i. in new york, miami, and denver, he's also the president of the gavin group, thank you for joining us. >> it's my pleasure. >> heather: some of the details that are being released today in the police, news conference that was held earlier, they were talking about hypergolic mixtures, fuel, oxidation mechanisms, triggering device, up to 30 grenades located inside this apartment. not to mention the preparation that happened in the movie theater itself. the suspect covered in ballistic gear head to toe. this was meticulously planned. >> there is absolutely no doubt about it. this individual took time over the past couple of months to get the weapons, to get the ammunition. he planned how he was going to do it, when he was going to do it, why he was going to do it. there is a couple of things that are in common here, heather, that i think about.

in the movie theater, he initially set off some sort of a smoke device. that's kind of a herding mechanism where by people see that smoke, they go away from it. so it makes him -- it let's him have the advantage of herding people into his kill zone. so he drove them into his line of fire. the second thing i look at is we've heard the music started playing very, very loudly in his apartment, which was unusual for him in and that young lady went up, luckily didn't open the door. but that's also a herding mechanism. he herd somebody somebody toward that apartment to open the door and kill more people that way. what is strange, though, is that subsequent to the shooting in his capture outside the theater, he tells police immediately the apartment is booby trapped. bottom line is, he's already done what he came to do. he killed a whole bunch of people, wounded other people, and now he wants to show the police just how smart he really

is with the complicated triggering mechanism and the sophomoric bombs he created. >> heather: why do that? what does that tell but the psychological profile of this gentleman? he kills 12 people, injures another 58, attempts to kill them. but then he had the opportunity for more death and destruction, but he tells the police, hey, there are booby traps in my apartment. why do that? >> it is strange, but i think he does it because at the movie theater, he already accomplished what he wanted to do. he killed and maimed people. it would have happened also. what if he had been caught before he had a chance to do that? now he's got the apartment to herd people to that because of the live music and what not. so he had two possibilities of killing a lot of people. he already did it once and he didn't have to do it again. now he tells the police it's there so they can see how smart he is in setting this up. it really is a wonderful case

for some psychologist and psychiatrist to look at. >> heather: they were able to get him very quickly. i was on the air yesterday morning. there were initial reports, there was possibly a second suspect. we're so glad to find out that this was a lone gunman situation. what do you think they were able to find out from him before he was able to get legal representation? >> i suspect probably there was a little bravado on his part to speak out and tell them how very bright he was. i think once they go into the apartment, i think he was counting on them going into the apartment and any evidence in there blowing up. but now that it wasn't, once they about get ahold of his diary, computer, it will be a treasure trove of what he did, and why perhaps did he it and if there was anybody else involved. they'll look at his conversations on his cell phones, all those things to see who he interrelated with in this particular case. it really is a case study, there is no did you tell about it and a horrible criminal activity of

one individual. >> heather: you also say that this demonstrates the vulnerability of soft targets as well. what lesson should we take from this? >> heather, the problem is, we've become paranoid after this. there is nothing that you can really do to guarantee a soft target won't be hit. the airlines have done a great thing. soft targets have become hardened now adays. now we still have bus depots, trains. we have theaters, malls. we have sporting events. we have all kinds of things that are soft targets. i guess probably what of two do is what law enforcement has been doing so far and that is looking around, making sure people become involved and that's the key to this whole thing. there are only x number of law enforcement people to do their job. there are millions of citizens who -- extra eyes and ears that can really turn around and help the police when they have a chance to do that. just bring it to their attention. as ray kelly says, if you see something, say something.

that's great adage in this set of circumstances. >> heather: very good point because we all do want to continue to live our lives. thank you so much, bill gavin, we appreciate your expertise. thank you. >> gregg: tragedy in aurora, fast moving developments and the story that has really saddenedded the nation. we'll have the very latest, including what's next for the suspect as he faces justice, his first appearance in court day after tomorrow, monday morning, judge jeanine pirro will be joining us next. we take it on o. this summer put your family in an exceptionally engineered mercedes-benz now for an exceptional price during the summer event. but hurry, this offer ends july 31st. did i ever think i would have heart disease. she just didn't fit the profile of a heart event victim. she's healthy, she eats properly. i was pushing my two kids in a stroller when i had my heart event.

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aurora, colorado. judge, the first legal hurdle that prosecutors must get over is competency. does the defendant or suspect understand the charges against him? can he assist in his own defense? i don't know. that may not be as easy as it sounds. what do you think? >> well, you know, as someone who has prosecuted a lot of murder cases and sat on them as well, the issue of competency, and you say it very clearly, is two fold. can he assist in his own defense? does he understand the nature of the charges? i think a guy who says right away, i want to talk to my lawyer, may understand the implications and the nature of what he's facing. that is not going to be -- but it is the first hurdle, but not the most difficult. i suspect based upon rumor and what's being said around here in aurora is that the insanity defense, which is an affirmative defense once professorred will be the real issue. i was at a press conference with the chief, the mayor, the governor, and the precise issue

really is whether or not the deliberative and premeditated aspect to this crime will, in fact, negate the concept of insanity. for now, the arraignment is scheduled for monday. he will be viesed of the charges and represented by an attorney. it is now 9:30, as i understand it, it was initially 8:30. and i expect there will be a long process after that and, of course, in the state of colorado, there is a grand jury. so there will be an indictment. the question, murder 1. death penalty. remember, gregg, there are two separate crime scenes here. there is the movie theater, which the chief said this afternoon will be released. most people will get their items back. but then there is also the paris street location which was rigged as they said, to kill plead once that door was opened. >> gregg: i can see federal charges related to terrorism and

weapons of mass destruction. but judge, let me come back to my original issue of competency. the reason i say it may not be so easy is because i'm reminded of the last mass shooting which occurred in january of last year and it was in arizona, jared loughner was arrested, the shooting of gabrielle giffords and others. he has yet to stand trial, judge, because he was determined to be schizophrenic and he has yet to be declared competent to stand trial and it's been a year and a half. the government wants to force him to be medicated. he is refusing. it has gone up on appeal and so far he's not competent. >> all right. you know, you could be comparing apples and orangesly. you got jared loughner examine you've got this guy, holmes. with loughner, there was a real indication that he had some problems. i'm not saying that this guy doesn't have problems. but this guy was a highly

functioning individual, whereas loughner had a lot of problems where he was thrown out of school. they thought he was a danger. he was exhibiting a lot of different issues. this guy was a highly functioning individual, just a month before dropped out of school. but who knows what's going to happen? >> gregg: somebody who pretends he's a comic book character declaring i am the joker and cackles and laughs the way the joker does could arguably be, if an expert so declares, schizophrenic, which is what loughner was declared to be. that's why i draw the comparison -- i'm not trying to jump the gun here with his defense, but could be a problem for prosecutors. but what about pure insanity? talk to us about the law there in colorado. there is one aspect of it that caught your attention. >> right. the one aspect that caught my attention of the colorado insanity defense -- and it is a classic mcnaughton rule -- is

that the colorado legislature was very clear to exempt from the concept of insanity the idea that the actions that are based upon anger revenge, hatred or evil conditions do not rise to the level of insanity, and therefore, even if you've got an individual who is suffering from a mental disease or defect, if it is grounded in anger, hatred and evil, revenge, then the legislature has been very specific to exempt that. i find that fascinating as someone who tried these insanity cases. this is going to be, make no mistake, a long process. there is, and the police chief said something interesting this afternoon. he said make no mistake, we are angry here. and make no mistake, thereof a loft calculation here. and the sophistication with which this place was rigged on paris street speaks to a certain level of organization, of

methodicallism. >> gregg: thank you. a special edition of judge jeanine begins tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. we'll be right back won't need... ♪ hajimemashite. hajimemashite. hajimemashite. you guys like football ? thank you so much. i'm stoked. you stoked ? totally. ... and he says, "under the mattress." souse le matelas. ( laughter ) why's the new guy sending me emails from paris ? paris, france ? verizon's 4g lte devices are global-ready. plus, global data for just $25. only from verizon.

>> heather: police now ramping up security at movie theaters nationwide out of fear of potential copy cat shootings inspired by the colorado massacre.

molly henneberg is live for us in virginia with what's happening there. hi, molly. >> hi, heather. yes, there are some definite visible signs of increased security here. let's look at a couple of them. there is a portable security camera that's just been brought here today here to this regal cinema out front. there have been multiple drive byes by local police and theater security. there is a police car that's been parked out front all day. it seems to be allaying some fears. movie goers here and in new york city say theaters are a fun examine relaxing way to escape for a bit. >> i really want to seat movie. >> there is always going to be crazy people trying to do crazy things. i don't think that i need to be concerned about things like that. i have a greater chance of dying getting hit by a car. >> no, it really doesn't affect me at all.

i understand that it's like a once in a blue moon thing. you really can't take all security or all movie theaters. >> regal says it will not discuss all of its security measures, but says it does retain the right to search people's bags and backpacks before they enter the theater. heather? >> heather: thank you very much, molly henneberg live for us from virginia. thanks. >> gregg: we are getting some brand-new information coming in to the news room concerning the colorado movie massacre. we're live from aurora with the very latest coming up next. don't go away. got the jetta. i wiped the floor with the guy! not really. i would've been fine with 0% for 36 months, but i demanded 60. no...i didn't do that. it was like taking candy from a baby. you're a grown man. alright, see you at home. [ male announcer ] the volkswagen autobahn for all event. we good? we're good. [ male announcer ] at 0% apr for 60 months,

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solutionism. the new optimism.™ ♪ this dream >> heather: a fox news alert on a tense operation underway inside the apartment of a colorado shooting suspect. bomb experts are disarming traps and explosives that were, quote, set up to kill, and their work far from over. i'm heather childers and well dom a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. new information is emerging on this fast developing story. there may be up to 30 explosive devices hidden inside that apartment. investigators also saying the gunman had recently bout 6,000 rounds of ammunition. and of the 59 people wounded in the rampage, seven of them remain this hour in critical condition. >> heather: the suspect, james holmes, will appear in court on monday. one big question for police,

finding a motive for one of the worst mass shootings in u.s. history. adam housley is live on the scene for us in aurora, colorado. >> we might find more out about that admission of what he has done or what really drove him to do this, what's inside this apartment complex behind me. authorities said even if they find or even if he has told them before he got a lawyer, they won't tell us. they'll wait and do that in a court of law. you know they're getting at evidence inside. let me give you a look at what's happening inside. the ladder truck put its ladder down. that's significant because it means they no longer have to hoist anybody in. they can now walk in. they've been inside the apartment from james holmes now for three or four hours. they have an assessment team inside. what they're doing now is all the trip wires have been taken down. all the significant threats have been taken away. but there are still very delicate areas in the apartment. they're going through very tediously, very meticulous work and they're insuring that each