10-year-old and her l-year-old friend say they have evidence the girls have not been killed. the fbi won't reveal what that is, but the search is being expanded beyond iowa. the cousins vanished july 13th riding bikes. i'm kelly wright. now back to more of "huckabee". headlines log on to fox news .com. you're watching fox news channel. >> mike: on friday after police released the shooting suspect's name abc news reporter brian ross initially suggested he could be tied to the tea party. here is what ross said. he said there is and he gives the name of aurora colorado page on the colorado tea party site talking about him joining the tea party last year. now, we don't know if this is the same name but it is name of aurora colorado giving the name get. it wasn't the same man.

ross later was forced to apologize for his gaffe as he should have. joining me former white house secretary and cohost of the popular and successful show "the five." dana perino. you have quite a fan club here by the way. i was shocked that brian ross would wrecklessly and irresponsibly make some connection to the tea party without any basis whatsoever to do so. >> not only is that shocking, from a reporter who should get things 100% right but that he went to the tea party website first to see if there was a connection. i actually think that is almost more interesting and then they get it wrong and then have to be forced to apologize. then they wonder why they have journalism has such a low approval rating. when i was the white house press secretary they used to give us a hard time because of

president bush's approval rating. i remember being asked what are you going to do about it. i said there are only two entities in washington that lower approval raidings than george w. bush congress and the media so what are you going to do about it. and they continued to make things worse for themselves and for journalism with things like this. this is not the first time. this happened when congress woman gabrielle giffords was shot. everybody goes to the tea party website to see if there is a connection. i don't know any tea party member whose first and foremost passion is about the second amendment. the fact that they were looking for some connection immediately really is oh h offensive. >> mike: it would be like taking brian ross' name and saying we know there was a brian ross arrested for child molesting in upstate new york.

>> oops, sore. >> karch: the wron sorry, wronn ross. >> is it more important to be right than it is to be first? >> i was the press secretary when the virginia tech shooting happened. when a crisis breaks, first reports are almost always wrong. hold back. wait a minute and let's see what the facts are. be rapid response even from a campaign side on the other side of things used to we the most important aspect and tactic of a campaign and now i think that changed. you have to hold back. and brian ross' peers should be policing one another and i would hope there is a little bit of hanging of the head in shame this morning over this because also abc news helped him walk right into it. that is what they were looking for was a tea party connection.

>> mike: there has been a change in tone in the campaigns. suspended negative advertising. kind of refreshing. >> the right thing to do. >> when will they blink first and think there is time to go back. i think they need to give this a lot of breathing room. we have seven people shot in critical condition. there are are going to be such heart breaking stories it is not something we start talking about something else on even tuesday or wednesday of next week and i think the campaigns have to take a step back. colorado will be a battle ground state but it will not be about this. there will be plenty of time to campaign in the future. they will have to hold back. >> mike: do you think days, weeks? how long? >> i don't know. i think they will just have to see. now, governor, i do think that president obama will go to colorado and i think he should. in times of crisis people want to see their president.

they want to talk to him and though there is -- the care is there and that he is in charge and that is appropriate. mitt romney is about to head out to on a foreign trip going to the olympics in london and then he will be in israel and i don't know if they have other stops along the way. i think that colorado will get a respid from the negative ads. and maybe they won't come back but i have a feeling at some point someone will do it. >> mike: i have a feeling we will see the negative ads again. i hate the tragedy and hate that it would cause something like this to make the campaigns act civil. maybe the american public would appreciate the civility of tone for the next several weeks. >> it gives us perspective with a capital p. the things we arguing about even on the five when we have the robust debates about the tax returns and whether or not the departure date was 1995 or

2005. those things become trivial. not only an immediate reaction to find out if there was a tea party reaction but the first thing after awful the tragedies is a conversation about gun control. we should be having a conversation about mental health and how do you recognize the signs of somebody who all of a sudden snaps within two months who was a brilliant young person. all of the promise of a future that an american education can give to you and he drops out of society. we have to learn more about him but for all of us to be able to recognize signs of when somebody is about to snap is probably a better use of our time than the gun control debate. >> mike: very well said. treaterve tasty food and customers and employees with respect. but chick-fil-a came under

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business around biblical principles and now have over 1600 stores all over america and close every sunday so employees can go to church. they have come under fire recently after supporting organizations that defend traditional values that seem to be simple to me. the founder of chick-fil-a has a wonderful book and called wealth is it worth it. he joins me now. mr. cathy, it is an honor to have you here today. >> my pleasure. >> mike: chick-fil-a not its start when you were 46 years old. what is the origin and genesis of the company that made a dent in america? >> brought up in the deep devotion and i realized if i ever had anything i had to work for it. so which opened up our first restaurant in 1946.

with a very minor investment there of $10,600. $4,000 my brother and i had. $6,600 loaned. it is all i had. make it 24 hours a day, 6 days a week. for that time we chose to close on sunday for people that wanted to go to church. not required but it has been a blessing for us. and if you work 24 hours a day for six days you are ready for a break. >> mike: i think you deserve one. i think it is remarkable that you have operated your company consistently. a privately held company. your family still controls it but you decided that you will continue to operate when there is so much pressure on you to open on sundays and kind of say look, it is 2012 and let's get beyond the old values o '50s

and '60s. how are you been able to swim against the tide? >> i about been firm in my convictions and closed on sunday from the very beginning. i guess i lost a lot of just a couple of operations but it was -- they understood and if i'm going in that mall i will close on sunday. >> mike: you book talks about wealth and is it worth it. you have a wonderful testimony on the back of the book from warren buffett. i think he is a friend of yours. what is the most important secret if there is is a secret that you learned about good business that you would share with us. then it is not going to be a secret but share it anyway. >> based on biblical principles.

treat your customers like you like to be treated. you like to be greeted with smiling faces and a serving spirit. and if they say thank you we in return say it is my pleasure and that turns people on. you don't hear that very often in fast food. >> mike: is there any particular challenge that you face in the business world today that makes it harder than it was when you started back in 1946? >> i find people can do anything if they want to. you have to pay a temporary price for seeing something greater in the future. it is being consistent. have goals set for yourself and don't let it stop you. if you have a lot of disappointments and i would always look for a job where i didn't have to do much work and get a lot of pay. but i don't find them out there. >> mike: none of the rest of us have either, mr. cathy. there has been controversy. absurd to me that there was

ever controversy in that one of your sons took a position which is a position that most of us in america take regarding traditional values. there is criticism. most of us in america appreciate that tree dom of speech still lives. you treat every person who comes in your store the same. no exceptions. you never turned any one away. >> right. >> i don't know why any one would be upset with chick-fil-a because of the manner in which you treat not only your employees but each customer. >> we like to feed hungry people regardless of circumstances. any time you come in my door we going to serve you. >> mike: and you you have done it well. i would love to, first of all, let the audience know you will get a copy of truett cathy's wonderful book is it worth it. it occurs to me sometimes when people stand up for biblical world view and godly principles

we sometimes let them out there on their own. i think it would be great in the light of attack they have been under attack the past few days if everybody appreciates a business who stands up for good things, maybe wednesday august 1 could be let's go to chick-fil-a day in america. i will go to my facebook and twitter account. you don'tster to honk a horn or carry a sign. not a political statement. just a thank you you to a company that operated with integrity and provided sound business practices and treated everybody with the dignity that every rue man being deserves and i think that deserves the respect. if you have a great day august 1, wednesday, know that it started here. >> remind people we are open six days a week. they don't have to do it wednesday. >> mike: they can come any day.

beat the rush. this is why success. he wants you to come all six days. mr. cathy, great to have you here. >> we want to make them happier. >> you you certainly have. coming up, your comments and my closing thoughts on the tragedy in aurora, colorado. we'll be right back.

>> mike: many of you have taken to my facebook page. you have shared comments in the aftermath of the aurora, colorado shootings and i want to try to address some of the things that you said and i always appreciate what you say and post on facebook as well as the e-mails that you send us. we do take them seriously. we received this from ginger. she said my son was at a screening in our town last

night. you go to the theater to relax and enjoy. and never think such a horrific thing is going happen and you realize outraged fragile we truly are. i think that is what touches all of americans during this time is that we do realize life is precious, it is fragile and every single day we need to cherish and every moment we need to value and cherish that, too. we may think that we have tomorrow but we don't. we only have right now. david says i also feel for the troops that die for this country but don't make much of a news story. they are flying the flag at half staff and i agree but every time a soldier gets killed shouldn't the flag be lowered for them? >> david, there is no group of americans for whom i have the greatest respect as i do the military because they put their lives on the line for us knowingly willingly. it is a tragic and horrible

thing when innocent people are killed. they didn't think they were putting their lives on the line. just going a movie or maybe going to church if the shooting happened there or going to campus if it was virginia tech. soldiers go into their daily job knowing they well may be asked to give their lives for their country. there is nothing we can do that is adequate enough to thank them for their service. >> dan writes and says do you think banning guns will help keep weapons out of a criminal's hands? >> the first family. cain and able. it wasn't a gun issue. it was an issue of the brokennest of the human heart. i think we need to recognize frankly there are more suicides in america than there are murders every year. the fact is we live in a violent world on the likelihood that you are going to be killed by a gun is statistically very, very remote. far more likely you would be

killed by an automobile or even drowning than you would be by a gun. you can control guns but ultimately you got to control people's hearts and that is something i think only god can do. pamela rights and says news in the media these -- news is immediate and these nut cases are instant infamous celebrities. >> i have not given the name of the shooter and have no intentions to. i don't want to make celebrities of these people. i would rather we forget them and remember those who have gotten h hurt. tammy says this world gets worse each day. it is awful and tragic. may god comfort these families. i can't agree more. if there is someone thing that i hope that we will see is that rather than say gosh, we live in a broken horrible culture maybe that is true in some ways. you know what i would like to think about?

i would like to think of the fact that millions of americans stopped what they were doing and offered a prayer for the people who have opinion hurt. i would like to think even two presidential campaigns filled with bitter and angry statements about each other suspended all of that. what when you want to talk about is america broken? we have got our you faults but also we have seen what makes this a great country. good, doesn't, ordinary, nameless, faceless people who remember what it is to care about their neighbor. that is what i would like for us to think about. and i hope you will. until next time, from new york, this is mike huckabee, good captioned by closed captioning services, inc.

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massacre and the person accused of committing it. i'm joined by investigative crime reporter michelle sagona. tell us what you know about this guy james holmes? >> i spent the morning and early afternoon in his neighborhood visiting the liquor store where he went. at least went there three times. sabrina at the liquor store told me that. the campus where he went to school. he was quiet. he kept to himself. he didn't speak very much. a guy who lived on the first floor of his building told me he heard him hanging around a few times. he moved there last november and said during that time he has only seen him outside a few times and mainly kept to himself. that is what we are learning. grew up in san diego. graduated there with