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who should simply be called the murderer. i know that having a dozen people murdered in a movie theater gets our attention because thank god, it doesn't happen every day. but, one million innocent and healthy young unborn babies die in their mother's wombs from abortions. and we pay scant attention. and we lost troops in the iraq and afghanistan and we hardly notice the numbers. and while we immediately cry for laws to address mass murder, when is the last time you heard someone say we need today deal with the mental illnesses resulting in suicides, especially and more tragically among our military veterans. i'm not attempting to disparage the attention given to the aurora theater shooting. we should all pray for the victims, their families and friends and all for our help in the physical and emotional
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survival of others. and a convenience store clerk who died at the hands of abuser, we don't have a crime problem or a gun problem or even a violence problem, what we have is a sin problem. since we've ordered god out of our schools, the military and public conversations we shouldn't act so surprised when all hell breaks loose. [applause] well, we want to go to our fox news correspondent in aurora with the latest. >> governor the president has come down to support those dealing with the tragedy in aurora, we're getting the closest look now at the suspect's apartment here and take a look right now, you can see some of the windows knocked out yesterday as authorities, the fbi, the atf and the aurora police department meticulously went through the apartment and defused the threat and got the evidence they needed. they took the explosive devices all basically connect
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today a circuit board in the kitchen. once that circuit board was taken out by a water bomb, they took the devices and put them into a dump truck filled with sand to ensure a soft ride and took them out to the east part of town and exploded those devices and burned them to ensure there was no more threat. back here they were continuing their investigation and they've got the computer tower out here from james holmes, and a lot of evidence they say shows that this man planned this attack for months and you can see the leftover remnants here from what was taken out. three different explosions, the water bomb and two smaller ones and see the glass here, part of the window frame is still here and the investigation here does continue and they do say, again, they have enough evidence to prove this suspect had done this for at least a month and a half or two months as planned, as the investigation goes on of the the people here in aurora are dealing with a horrible tragedy, governor. >> mike: i want to talk to alex milano, 19 years old and he was in the movie theater with his 14-year-old sister.
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thank you for joining us today. >> no problem. >> mike: you and your sister were in the movie theater when you first heard the commotion, did you think it was part of the movie or did you know something was not quite right? >> i started to think that something might not be right, but at the first time i heard it, i thought fireworks, i thought special effects. you know, midnight showing of a much anticipated movie, why wouldn't they? >> was there panic in the theater where you were? you were in the theater next door, is that correct? >> yes, theater eight. i was actually across the hallway from theater nine. >> and was there a panic even in theater eight, the one adjacent to the one where the shooting took place? >> there wasn't a panic until a couple of people actually got up and started to run out of the theater. after the first, what i thought were fireworks went off. >> and alex-- >> and i noticed at that they were actually -- sorry. >> mike: what was your first
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instinct, was it to get out of there or protect your sister, what was the first thing you thought and how did you act upon that? >> i didn't think. to be honest with you, i did not think at all. i just did. everything happened in a blink of an eye for me. i grabbed my sister's purse, i grabbed my bag, i grabbed her arm and we were gone. >> and you got completely out of the theater. when did you realize that this was not fireworks, but this was an incredibly horrific scene and that people were dying? >> about five minutes prior to leaving the theater, that i was in, i actually saw the bullets rip through the wall in the lower right of the theater and that's when other people ran out, holding themselves, and moaning in pain. >> your sister, i understand she's been very severely traumatized by this whole experience, is she handling it better today? is she getting able to talk about it and process what she saw and what she experienced?
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>> to be honest with you, she won't talk to anyone else about me-- or about it without me there. or just talk to me about it in general. >> you know, i know this has been an incredibly painful situation for you and your family. what did your parents say to you and your close friends when they realized that you and your sister were okay? >> how did they respond? >> my mom was actually pretty frantic, over the phone. first time i talked to her. she was at the hospital with my younger brother, he had actually gotten his appendix removed the day before. >> he might have been with you otherwise, huh. >> yeah, well not the little brother, but i know my parents would have been. >> well, now what? he may grow up being glad he doesn't have an appendix and able to escape the horrible thing that you and your sister had to go through. our thoughts and prayers are with you, alex and i hop you let your sister know there's
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people all over this country that pray for her to get back on her feet and be okay. >> thank you very much. >> mike: alex, thank you. how did police manage to do their jobs in the chaos of some tragedy like this? and what's the legal process and prosecution of the suspect? next i'll bring a panel of legal and law enforcement experts and we'll talk about it. stay with us. people like options. when you take geico, you can call them anytime you feel like saving money. it don't matter, day or night. use your computer, your smartphone, your tablet, whatever.
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>> mike: i'm joined by a a panl of folks that we >> i'm joined by a panel of folks we've assembled together to talk about what happens from here. again, we're not here to speculate on the things that might happen, but talk about the processes, the judicial and law enforcement processes that will result from this case. joining me is the host of justice jeanine, jeanine pirro. she's outside the movie theater. dr. william july is a clinical psychologist and former police officer and with me in the studios at the fox news headquarters, legal analyst
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peter johnson, jr. and former homicide detective john fleming, part of the elite new york police department intelligence division. judge, let me begin with you and let's talk about the process in colorado or most states about saying that this person did what he did because he was insane, versus that it was-- a criminal intent. that makes a big difference in the way adjudication will go. >> right, right, and there is a lot of speculation right now, governor, about whether or not this defendant will p proffer an insanity defense. we know there's arraignment monday, 8:30 a.m. that could possibly change. there are two issues on the table right now. will this defendant be considered competent, that is able to understand the nature of the charges, and assist his lawyers in his defense. and then, issue number two, will he seek to offer an insanity defense where the burden of proof then will be on the state of colorado to
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prove whether or not he is sane. it is a classic mcnaughton rule, did this defendant know and understand the nature of an act and whether they were right or wrong and/or was he able to actually form the mental state necessary. what's interesting about the colorado statute, governor, is that they say mental depravity that rises to the level of a insanity cannot grow out of anger, revenge, hatred or evil. it's as though the colorado legislature said you know what, if you're so full of hate and anger and want people to use insanity as an excuse, we're not going to let do it. we're a long way from knowing what will happen, but there's a lot of speculation and since it clearly seems to be the defendants. >> peter, it sounds like the burden of proof to get to insanity is difficult. let's just say for a moment that you were his attorney. >> sure. >> how do you approach this as
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an attorney to represent someone that the whole world hates right now. >> as an attorney, he needs a psychiatric examination right away and it is a topsy-turvy burden of proof as jeanine points out, the burden is on the the state to prove that he's sane. once the defendant asserted the insanity defense. it's also tempered by what's called the irresistible impulse. he could act in a way that seems to be rational in terms of the premeditation that appears to have gone into all of these acts, but if he can show he was suffering from an irresistible impulse, a police at thele bow concept it's called. he would have acted in the same way that even the police officer was at his side. and then he has a strong opportunity to win on the insanity defense. he needs to be examined hypothetically by a psychiatrist, and immediately to establish that, and to put all the medical evidence together. in terms of previous treatment
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and what he was exhibiting in terms of the symptoms. >> dr. william july is a forensic psychologist. doctor, the question for you, when these kind of things happen, one of the concerns is will there be copy cat crimes? is it more likely to happen if we elevate this person by giving his name? as you may know i'm the not giving his name, i don't want to give it any sense of celebrity. and you know, i don't want him to wake up and read his name in the paper, see it on television, listen to it on radio and say, wow, i'm a somebody and some other loser loner out there think i could be a somebody, too. is there a affect in which people might be more likely to commit some kind of horrific crime thinking that that would elevate them in some manner, as perverted as it is? >> absolutely, governor. the problem with something like this is in a situation in which a person who is not mentally or psychologically
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stable observes this sort of behavior, i think, about the situation that happened in europe, those things can trigger the copycats, can empower them and motivate them to think that it's possible to do. in the very same way that a person is motivated to do positive things, a person can be motivated to do diabolical things and inspired, so, we have to be careful about the cult of celebrity we have in which people become famous for whatever they've done regardless whether it's a moral or immoral act. >> john fleming, one of the real challenges i would imagine for the police department is maintaining control of the crime scene and the chain of evidence, because it's bedlam out there. the first thing is protecting human life, getting people out of the theater who are wounded, so, you disturbing a lot of the basic crime scene evidence. and as a police officers, you've dealt with these kind of situations before. what is the primary thing that officers have to go and do because ultimately they're going to be in court, having
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to prove that there was a chain of evidence and that the evidence was iron clad? >> your primary responsibility is saving lives. so, you know, if the crime scene is trodden over during the the course of that, you know, it is what it is. and you try to protect as much of it as you can we see that happening right now in the apartment, there's evident in the apartment. there's bombs up in the apartment and it's a very static environment. what you want to try to keep all the evidence that you can, talking about controlled, quick putouts. if it doesn't have to happen, you don't want it to happen. i need that information because i want to know if there are like-mined individuals either he's associated with or accomplices or a secret pact with him. if not, he's acting as a lone wolf, but that's one thing
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that the aurora police department is able to do and secure the crime scene at the apartment, where at the scene, because of protecting lives and ambulances in and out, the most important thing is to save lives and some of that evidence is going to be, you know, tainted. >> well, we're going to be rejoined by john, peter, the judge and dr. july when we return more with our panel next. [ male announcer ] drive a car filled with as much advanced technology as the world around it. with the available leus enform app suite, you can use opentable to make restaurant reservations. during the golden opportunity sales event, get great values on se of our newest models. this is the pursuit of perfection. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. visit fastreliefchallenge.com
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>> mike: we are back be with >> we're back with our panel and i just want to have sort of a free flowing discussion and i want to start back with you, judge. you're out there in colorado and i'm sure there is absolute shock in that community. what are people saying in terms of their reaction and saying, what do they want to happen to this person, in
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their community? with an are you hearing on the streets of aurora, colorado? >> you know, governor, it's very interesting. the pain and the horror is palpable here in aurora. and i think that people are still in the state of shock. they are numb, a lot of people are just hearing about this, the death of friends and family members, and so, you haven't yet gotten to that point of, you know, anger, justice and all of that. and the police are focused on that, because that's their job and i am so impressed with the pd here with the coordinated effort to face, local, federal agencies, fbi, atf. everyone here, they are putting together a case behind the scenes as other people try to heal each other, and as i heard so eloquently stated today, we thought this was a once in a lifetime thing with columbine. how could this happen again to us in colorado? so, it is just, it's just a sad, sad place, governor. >> jon, you had mentioned
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about the evidence that's in that apartment, how critical it is. something happens that the evidence is destroyed, how much does that affect the ability to properly prosecute this case? >> well, i think based on the fact pattern, i think you can prosecute the case, you know, as far as making an argument, whether, you know, sane or not, that's a whole other issue. i think pretty much he's guilty as charged of what i was trying to point out in the apartment was there's other evidence that could be inside those hard drives, inside a captured tool like an ipod or an iphone that might lead us to other members, i don't know. maybe he has a sect, maybe there is, he has accomplices. maybe there's a plan to carry out further terrorist, domestic terrorism. we don't know. so, if we do a quick blast there with a quick putout we could lose that evidence. they might have to do it, i don't know. that's not a decision for me
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to make. i know a chief here in the n.y.p.d., a very accomplished guy more than up to the task, time is on our side and i've heard that said time and time again, but it's not. there's a sense of urgency here to get to that evidence or information that's inside the apartment. >> so, peter, obviously, you know, the concerns that a lot of people have is what can we do to prevent this and laws to create. i'm not sure there's any law that can prevent people from doing crazy things. no, there are gun controls around the country and laws in colorado strengthened after columbine, we can take a harder look at people and react in ways that are more responsible and socially responsible when we see abberant behavior and when we see signs and signals that someone is going to act in ways in which a dozen people may be killed and 70 people shot at any one time. and so, i think we have an obligation as a society, as
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human beings, as christians, to move ahead and say, listen, this is a person who i think needs help. who may be assisted by-- pharmacology or by treatment, by therapy, i'm not making excuses for this defendant, but at the he same time. if in fact, he's motivated by schizophrenia, depression, by some psychosis, then we should stop these things before they happen and family members and friends and school officials, and everyone in our community have that obligation in each and every state across the country, you can have someone committed, if you believe that they're dangerous to themselves or to yourself. >> here is the problem, as a judge i've made these decisions, as-- if i could just finish here, as a judge i've made determinations as to whether or not someone is, you know, a danger to himself or the community. it's a very high standard. so, people can suspect, but getting a judge to actually do something about it is very, very difficult. pete her, i agree with
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everything you said, but here we have a highly functioning individual who was extremely intelligent who apparently didn't exhibit any of these signs. so, you know. >> we'll see with the jury-- >> and i want to get the doctor here, because let's talk about, everybody always says after the event, something like this, there were certain signs we saw, but people weren't talking about it beforehand. what should we look for in a family member or a friend. give us those tips to see exactly-- >> right, governor, the judge and peter are both making very good points, but, however, the-- what we have to do, we have to look, as you said, for signs. we have to take responsibility for family members and for friends. sometimes people will ask me what can i do. well, here is what you can do. you watch to see if someone is isolated, withdrawn, if they have dark fantasy, do they tell weird jokes and you kind of shrug them off. if they're somebody that has
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behaviors that don't match up with norm. behaviors tell us a story and when people are acting strange often there's something strange to it, but as the judge said we don't live in a society where you can just go lock people up. but family members can take precautions, can take actions, and get people evaluated. >> peter, a quick final word for you. >> the shooter is responsible for this. the shooter is liable in the end, but all of us have an obligation to do what we can to prevent the incidents so we're not wringing our hands and engaging in political talk and all kinds of talk and we can stop this behavior in some cases and should do the best we can. >> thank you for being here, appreciate your perspectives. and on the campaign trail, pretty much shut down the vitriolic campaigns we've seen for months and months and civil for a range. how is it that candidates can
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do it, but not all the time. and when will they go back to the nasty campaigns we've gotten used to. and dana perino, and a reporter got ahead of himself yesterday. we'll talk about that when we return. mself yesterday. [ birds chirping ] [ engine revving ] ♪ hey, hey, hey ♪ [ tirescreech ] [ male announcer ] with fuel economy that's best in class and better acceleration than camry and accord, you'll wish you had the road to yourself. [ tires screech ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪
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>> this is a fox news alert. i'm gregg jarrett in new york. you're watching a prayer vigil going on at the municipal center in aurora, colorado for those killed and wounded in friday's shooting at a movie theater there. 12 people died, 58 people were injured at a midnight showing of the new batman movie. now, the speakers have included the aurora mayor, steve hoken, the governor john hick hickenlooper. president obama is in colorado right now, talking to families
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of those who were gunned down in the theater and local officials there. and air force one touched down at buckley air force base in aurora a couple of hours ago, included a private meeting with victim's loved ones and in a few moments, public comments which we'll carry live. i'm gregg jarrett, now back to huckabee. >> mike: on friday after the police released the shooting suspect's name, abc news reporter brian ross initially suggested that he could be tied to the tea party. here is what ross said, he said, there is, and gives the name, of aurora, colorado, page on the colorado tea party site talking about him joining the tea party last year. we don't know if it's the same name, but it's name of aurora, colorado giving the name yet again. well, it wasn't the same man. ross later was forced to apologize for his gaffe.
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as he should have. joining me now, former white house press secretary and co-host of the popular and successful show "the five", dana perino. >> (applause) >> i was shocked and-- a hand. >> thank you. >> mike: i was shocked that brian ross would recklessly and irresponsibly make some connection to the tea party without any basis whatsoever to do so. >> not only is that shocking from a reporter who should get things 100% right, but that he went to the tea party website first to see if there was a connection. i actually think that's almost more interesting. and then they get it wrong and then they have to be forced to apologize? then they wonder why they have journalism has such a low approval rating. when i was white house press secretary they used to give us a hard time because of president bush's low approval
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rating and asked in a briefing what are you going to do about it. well, there are only two entities in washington that have a lower approval rating than george w. bush, congress and the media, so what are you going to do about it. >> mike: good answer. >> an and they continue to make things worse for themselves and for journalism with things like this. and this is not the first time, this happened when congresswoman gabby giffords was shot and before and immediately everybody goes to the tea party website to see if there's a connection which i don't know any tea party person who's first and foremost passion is the second amendment. it is about the constitution and about debt and the deficit in government spending and that's what it's about. the, but the fact that they were looking for some connection immediately really is offensive. >> mike: well, and it would be like taking brian ross' name and saying there's a brian ross arrested for child molesting in upstate new york. we don't know if it's the same one. >> sorry, different brian ross. >> mike: yeah, later on saying.
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>> right. >> mike: and i know it behooves media people to be able to get to the story quickly, but have we lost the sense that it's more important to be right than it is to be first? >> well, one thing i learned, you know, i was a press secretary when the virginia tech shootings happened. and i remember learning several times throughout the bush administration years, when a crisis breaks, first reports are almost always wrong. so, you need to hold back, wait a minute, let's see what, let's see what the facts are, rapid response from, even from a campaign side, on the other side of things, used to be the most important aspect of the campaign and now i think that's changed, you've got to hold back. and brian ross' peers, they should be policing one another and i would hope that there's a little bit of hanging of the head, you know, in shame this morning over this, because, also, abc news helped him walk right into it. that's what they were looking for was a tea party connection. >> mike: there has been a change of tone in the presidential campaigns, both
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the obama and romney campaigns have suspended negative advertising. kind of refreshing. >> and absolutely the right thing to do. >> mike: when will they go back-- >> that's the question, who is going to blink first and when do they think it's appropriate to go back. there's plenty of time to campaign in the fall. and we need breathing room. we have 7 in colorado in critical condition and there are going to be such heart breaking stories that come out from that and not something that we are going to talk about something else, on even tuesday or wednesday of next week, and i think the campaigns are just going to have to take a step back. colorado will be a battle ground state, but it will not be about this and there will be plenty of time to campaign in the future, they'll have to hold back. >> mike: you think days, weeks? how long? >> i don't know. i think that they're just going to have to see. now, governor, i do think that president obama will go to colorado, and i think he should. in times of crisis, people want to see their president
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and they want to talk to them and they want to know that there-- the care is there and that he is in charge and that's appropriate. mitt romney is about to head out to, on a foreign trip, he's going to the olympics in london and then he'll be in israel and i don't know if they have other stops along the way. so, i think that colorado will get a respite from the negative ads and maybe they won't head back-- >> president obama in aurora, colorado meeting over the last two hours with the families of those gunned down inside a movie theater early morning on friday. and hearing from state and local officials about the shooting that left 12 people dead, dozens more injured. there you see the microphone and the presidential seal and we expect the president to deliver remarks momentarily and air force one touched down at buckley air base in aurora, a couple of hours ago for a meeting that includes private get together with the victims of loved ones and as we say,
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in a few moments we expect him to make public remarks about the shooting in the movie theater. and the governor there, john hickenlooper meeting with the president and aurora police of chief don oats among those who greeted the president when he stepped off air force one. for the president, it is yet another unhappy occasion for him to serve as, well, essentially, the national consoler in chief, it's a role that's become a crucial aspect of the presidency and by the way, this is the second time the president has visited colorado in less than a month to comfort the residents there. as you may recall, he made a very quick visit in late june to colorado springs where hundreds of homes were destroyed in the most devastating wildfire in the state's history. simultaneous to this, there is a candlelight vigil that is taking place in another part
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of aurora, groups of choirs have been singing in the late afternoon sunshine. and we are hearing from ministers of all favorites who have been addressing the crowd gathered there. as you may know, there are crosses that represent the victims that were delivered to a grassy field nearby. the movie theater today. representing those who have lost their lives. 58 are injured and some of them quite gravely. they're in critical condition at area hospitals. we know, there was a remark that some may the not survive this. six hospitals in all took in some of the shooting the victims. adam housley is standing by and adam, you have some new information on what was found inside the shooter's apartment? >> reporter: yeah, we are getting more information about
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some of the different pieces of evidence found inside. of course, they took a lot of evident out yesterday, involving the explosive devices and all the different powders in there to try to start a major fire. we've also been told by investigators the batman poster was found inside, as well as a mask connected to the batman movie. they won't say it was a badman mask itself or maybe a mask of one of the characters, but they say there was a poster and a mask inside the apartment. it's right behind me, as the sun starts to go down here in aurora, you can kind of get a really good look how the glass was busted out in part of the operation, that meticulous operation that was meant to defuse the apartment. we're told it was set up with wires and trip wires, but the devices themselves were amateur. the idea was, at least the way that james holmes set it up, the person who opened the door would likely have been killed and would have started off a firestorm that would have burned up that apartment quickly, ten gallons of gas
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were found next to it an ignition device which would have put up a very quick flame, aconsidering to authorities and they went through the whole thing, and the main point yesterday when he put in a water bomb to take out a circuit board in the kitchen everything was connected to. and the idea was to take out the circuitry and remove the powders and put them into a dump truck and take them to the east part of town and exploded and burned. and that operation went perfectly. it allowed the authorities to go in there meticulously, the fbi, aurora police, taking evident out. including the computer tower and as i mentioned the poster and mask. as you come below, too, there are remnants of the operations yesterday. you can see part of the blinds that were blown out, as well as glass and even window frames down below as they knocked out four windows to the subject's apartment. this apartment complex is empty and in fact, i met a
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neighbor who lived two floors below james and only saw him a few times, saw him taking out the trash a couple of times and seemed normal-- >> adam, let me interrupt you if i may. here is the president of the united states. let's listen. >> good afternoon, everybody. i want to begin by just thanking all the state, local and federal officials who have responded magnificently to this tragedy. governor hickenlooper who has already been dealing with a range of natural disasters here in the state has been an extraordinary example of strength. the mayor, who has only been on the job seven months and obviously has responded with great strength and leadership.
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the police chief who, you know, we had an opportunity to speak over the phone. chief oats has been dealing with as difficult a set of circumstances as any law enforcement officer deals with and he and his officers have done everything right, by the book, with great courage and determination. i'm proud of them and i think i speak for the entire congressional delegation who is here as well. you know, scripture says that he will wipe away every tear from their eyes and death shall be no more. neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain anymore for the former things have passed away. and when you have an
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opportunity to visit with families who have lost their loved ones, as i described to them, i come to them not so much as president, as i do as a father and as a husband. and i think that the reason stories like this have such an impact on us, we can all understand what it would be to have somebody that we love taken from us in this fashion, what it would be like and how it would impact us. i had a chance to visit with each family and most of the conversation was filled with memory. it was an opportunity for families to describe how wonderful their brother or their son or daughter was. and the lives that they had touched and the dreams that they held for the future.
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i confessed to them that words are always inadequate in these kinds of situations, but that my main task was to serve as a representation of the entire country and let them know that we are thinking about them at this moment and we'll continue to think about them each and every day and that the -- that the awareness that not only all of america, but much of the world is thinking about them might serve as some comfort. i also tried to assure them that although the perpetrator of this evil act has received a lot of attention over the last couple of days, that attention will fade away and in the end after he has felt the full force of our justice
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system, what will be remembered are the good people who were impacted by this tragedy. and i also had a chance to give folks some hugs and to shed some tears, but also to share some laughs as they remembered the wonderful lives that these men and women represented. i also had a chance, fortunately, to visit some folks who were going to be okay thanks to the extraordinary efforts of the staff at this hospital and i just want to thank everybody who's worked tirelessly here to deal with this tragedy. some of the stories are remarkable. you see young people who have come in and just two days ago or 36 hours ago or even 24
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hours ago, it wasn't certain whether they'd make it and now, suddenly, their eyes are open, they're alert and they're talking and it reminds you that even in the darkest of days life continues. and people are strong and people bounce back and people are resilient. and particularly, given the fact that so many of the victims were young, it is a great blessing to see how rapidly they're able to recover from some pretty devastating injuries. there's one particular story i want to tell because this was the last visit that i had. and i think it's representative of everything that i saw and heard today. i had a chance just now, about five minutes ago, to visit with ali young.
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ali is 19 years old. and i also had a chance to visit with ali's best friend stephanie davis, who is 21. stephanie was actually downstairs with ali, as well as ali's parents when i walked into the room and i don't think this story has been heard, at least i hadn't read it yet, but i wanted to share it with you. when the gunman initially came in and threw the canisters, he threw them only a few feet away from ali and stephanie, who were sitting there watching the film. ali stood up, seeing that she might need to do something or at least warn the other people who were there and she was immediately shot. and she was shot in the neck and it punctured a vein and
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immediately she started spurting blood. and apparently as she dropped down on the floor, stephanie, 21 years old, had the presence of mind to drop down on the ground with her, pull her out of the aisle, place her fingers over where she -- where ali had been wounded and applied pressure the entire time while the gunman was still shooting. ali told stephanie, she needed to run, stephanie refused to go, instead, actually with her other hand, called 911 on her cell phone. once the s.w.a.t. team came in, they were still trying to clear the theater, stephanie then, with the help of several
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others, carries ali across two parking lots to where the ambulance is waiting. and because of stephanie's timely actions, i just had a conversation with ali downstairs and she is going to be fine. i don't know how many people at any age would have the presence of mind that stephanie did or the courage that ali showed, and so as tragic as the circumstances of what we've seen today are, as heart breaking as it is for the families, it's worth us spending most of our time reflecting on young americans like ali and stephanie because they represent what's best in us. and they assure us that out of this darkness a brighter day
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is going to come. to the entire community of aurora, the country is thinking of you. i know that there's going to be a vigil and an opportunity for everybody to come together and i hope that all those who are in attendance understand that the entire country will be there in prayer and reflection today. so, thank you, god bless you, god bless all who help to respond to this tragedy and i hope that over the next several days, next several weeks and next several months we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence that end up marring this country, but also reflect on all the wonderful people who make this the greatest country on earth.
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thank you very much, everybody. everybody. >> and so the president surrounded by those who have been so intimately involved in trying to recover from this immense tragedy, the governor hucking the president there, the mayor, and dan oats of course the chief of police in aurora. the president saying that he serves and comes there not as their president, but as the representative of a nation that cares very deeply about the family members of the victims, offering his c condolences, and meeting with them one-on-one and sharing stories and hugs and, yes, tears. and the president, of course, recounting at least one story of heroism and saving the life
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of ali young. and let's go to anna kooiman standing by in the news room. there are 12 victims here and first and foremost, anna, we want to remember them. you saw the mayor standing next to the president. the mayor of aurora saying the gravely injured may not be surviving. the number of the death toll stands at 12, but could be rising. let's look at the memory of some of those victims. >> three young men took bullets for their loved ones. 26-year-old jonathan blunk, aspiring navy seal. and alex thieves, a masters graduate. and matt mcquinn target employee, used their bodies to protect their girlfriends saving their lives. >> matt did what a man is supposed to do. you protect the ones you love no matter what the cost. >> reporter: the youngest of the victims, six year old veronica sullivan, her mother remains in critical condition with gunshot wounds in the threat and abdomen. the oldest victim, gordon
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cowden, described as a true texas gentlemen was seeing the movie with his two teenage children. comic book geek and he was celebrating his birthday and alexander boik was described as a ball of joy by friend and a mother of two, described as a bubbly personality, rebecca wingo worked in public relations and jessica ghawi had plans to become a sports reporter and just missed a shooting in canada last month. a navy sailor the at buckley air force base, the youngest of five sibling. alongside larimer, 29-year-old jesse childress, a cyber systems operator and mikayla medek or kala to friends and family, a huge green bay
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packers fan. >> when i see other shootings and events and i think, oh, my gosh, i can't imagine what those families are going to and now i can imagine. >> reporter: of course, as the president mentioned all of us here at fox as well and folks across the nation, hearts and prayers, thoughts are going out to those families and you at home would like to donut to the victim's families, you can go to giving first.org, in order to make some, some of those donations to the victims of the murderous rampage. >> reporter: all right. anna kooiman, thank you very much. let's go to adam housley standing by live in aurora, and adam, i understand that you have some new information? >> reporter: yeah, gregg, we heard about the the president talking about emotions and the target store where the employees had gone together to the theater, one killed and one injured was just down the street from the theater and we went there to get water and you can see the emotion of the community as we travel around and cover the story. even here a block and a half from the hospital where people are still having surgery.
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one note that came up today. there are still people in the the hospital with major obstacles ahead of them and three majors surgeries that took place today with victims of the shooting that still have a long way to go in the healing process. some are able to be released and go home and still people are going to be in the hospital for weeks if not months as they try it recover from injuries. meantime, a block and a half away from the hospital just behind me is which is the suspect's apartment. meant to kill and potentially maim many more people. whether it be opening that front door and exploding pour the fire that the suspect had planned on burning this place down. and, but thankfully, there were no major events here, just because of the good work done by authorities. back to you, gregg. >> adam housley, live at the scene, thank you very much. so the president of the united states flying to aurora to offer his condolences, that all of america, he said, is thinking about the family members of the victims there, he came not as president, but as a father and a husband, we
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to help maximize calcium absorption. so caltrate women can move the world. >> president obama in aurora, colorado today to visit the victims of fries brutal movie theater massacre. accused killer james holmes set to appear in court tomorrow morning. day one of what is sure to be a long legal process, but tonight is about the victims the 12 that tragic lee clally lost their li dozens more injured in one of the most deadliest shootings in u.s. history. hello i am judge jeanine pirro. this is part 2 of our special report on the colorado movie massacre. we are here with breaking news and we have with us adam housley. adam, are you with us? >> yes, june janeane.
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we are here to tell you about what's happening behind me. there have been a number of memorials over the last couple days the big one is taking place right now just begun after the president gave those words. he spoke for about 10 minutes or so talking about one story of incredible survival. we have heard a number of those stories. he talked about going to the hospital and giving people hugs and going here not just as the president but as a father and as a husband. of the people we met we know of three major operations takings place at the hospital a block or two from where we are standing that are continuing to help people that have some places in critical condition. the vigil has begun it has a number of different people speaking from a number of religious backgrounds as well as local leaders. there will be candles and tears and remembrances of the 12 killed late friday night -- probably late thursday night into friday morning. back here live we can give you a look at what's happening here. this is the location that wa
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