the cast reported low pressure. the passengers got ear pain. >> it was horrible. i never had anything like that. >> that's words you don't want to hear when you are on the plain. >> alaska air pulled the aircraft for service to undergo a detailed inspection. an american scientist rescued from the research station in antarctica. an australian rescue team battled the subzero temperatures to fly in there and land and get out before the plane's equipment rose. he or she is expected to be okay. now to an update on the sikh temperature massacre in wisconsin. the f.b.i. revealed that wade

michael page took his own life. he shot himself in the head after being shot in the stomach. he killed six others and wounding others. there is a new story of heroism. a nine year old boy and len year old sister warned people to run and ride. they ran into the temple and sounded the alarm. a major shake up in the susan koman foundation. the founder nancy brinker will releng quish her role as chief executive. this because of a fall out for limiting planned parenthood. they did so because planned parenthood was the focus of a investigation. those are the headlines.

>> steve: the ve stakes, we could know in the show or next week or on friday according to karl rove. the three ps. pile ryan and pawlenty and what about petraeus. >> brian: i think it is a fall out. he would be a fine candidate. it is hard to imagine him trying to try his hand in the political world. i don't see it. nbc is reporting that there is three. i also see that it is a lot of talk and buzz around governor christie. don't be surprised if he hops on the magical mystery bus tour. and why would mitt romney come out with the pick knowing the

closing ceremonies are on us this weekend. it could help or hurt mitt romney. paul ryan . he is a crusader and everybody realizes he personalizes entitlement reform and a risky pick because he is outspoken on all of those things. and so, they say the safer choices would be the other two, tim pawlenty is an outsider because he's no longer in politics and that would be help portman is a insider and help him navigate the inner workers of capitol hill. >> brian: i don't think i will end up in the senate and pawlenty said we will know soon enough. >> steve: it is probably the most sleazy tv adin presidential election history. we are talking about the

adwhere joe said on camera that bain capt came over and took over his company and then his wife died of cancer. here's the thing, since this came out and it has wound up with four pinochios so many people say it is over the line. it is put out for a super pac and. it was extraordinary when stephanie cutter, who was a high-ranking official in the white house and works on the campaign said we didn't know the details about it. what about that conference call you hosted on may 14th with him telling his story, listen. >> after we lost our jobs, we found out we were going to lose our health insurance and our pensions were not funded like bain promised they would

be. i was lucky to find another job as a custodian in a local school district. they gave me health insurance but i was not able buy it for my wife. >> thank you, joe. she doesn't know the details. they didn't ask the right questions. he said a little while later my wife was diagnosed it was five years later. it turns out. >> steve: they are talking about the largest story to and they made an adto look like mitt romney killed his wife. >> listen to what stephanie said about this. >> you do know that we don't have anything to do with priority usa by law we are not allowed to coordinate and we

don't have anything with the ad. i don't know e facts. >> brian: she was listening on the conference call she should know. >> he didn't spill out. he said it was five years later. >> steve: she knew the basic details of the story. there are so many parts of the story are coming out now. he had a job, and we know he lost his job and lost his insurance eventually. unfortunately for the story they are trying to put out there. she had her own job and had her own insurance, and you know, that is unfortunate what happened to her . that's not brought up in the story and that's why so many people are saying the campaign and super pacs look like they are coordinating. >> brian: it seemed so sloppy. it was a counter punch and like a trap it seems like when they came out with the

contraceptive ads and next thing you know. republicans hate women . next thing is bain capitol and accusations against mitt romney. was mitt romney in charge. that was a counter punch. here i didn't know anything about it. oops, you hosted a conference call two months ago. how can you say you didn't know the details or anything about it. it is certain times david plouffe hosted fundraisers. we were not lawyers on the couch. but i did not know you can host fundraisers for a super pac and also say you had nothing to do with it. >> steve: thical pain is supposed to be separate from the super pack and the super pack separate from the white house. wait a minute. they are all working together. the video showed up not only

in the white house campaign ads but the super pack. bill burton said there is a video of this guy. we didn't know it was from the campaign. we thought it was just a good story. >> here is another detail. the man who tells the sad story about his wife losing his job and his wife getting sick and dying. he was offered a buy out. of course not everyone wants to take a buy out. but this was a detail. and here he is talking about it. >> in my case, in my department, they actually offered to buy our jobs out from underneath us. >> steve: well, you know. >> we d't know how much money he was offered >> brian: if you are going to declare a

venture capitol company to come in and make your business more profitable. it is hard to paint them heartless if they did not offer a buy out. how attain believa is another story. >> steve: the company was going bankrupt. he should have taken the buy out and could have paid insurance for his wife. oh, wait a minute, his wife had insurance at the time. i read one story that she was not even covered on his insurance. so when he said mitt romney did this to the company. she had her own insurance. she was not impacted by the lay off. >> i read she had her own insurance in 2003 and may have lost today by the time she got sick. there is a lot of details if the campaign had wanted to be

accurate they would have asked. in that conference call here. she doesn't press him on any questions. they hear the story. ooh that is a good story and let's use it and exploit the story without finding the finer details. >> brian: we talked on the radio. the low information voters is not really into politics. honey, i don't think i will vote for the guy that killed that woman. let's go vote. >> steve: a vote for mitt romney means you wind up with cancer? the campaign is hurt because they look nasty and playing fast and loose with the facts and ultimately look silly trying to distance themselves from it. i didn't know anything about the story. >> brian: we have a different fascinating theory. >> steve: we'll stick around. >> in missouri, a tea party

candidate who won the primary may be able to thank the democrats. and why would they help him and help him win? that's next. >> brian: then remember the terrifying midair rant from a jetblue pilot? now word he's done it again. wake up! that's good morning, veggie style.

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>> alisyn: check out this political ad. it is describing a missouri tea party candidate to akin. >> todd akin.

a crusader. he would eliminate departments of education and privatize social security and akin said president obama is a complete menace to civilization. todd akin is just too conservative. >> >> alisyn: he won in part because of the ad campaign. it was funded by a democrat. senator thurm caskil was supporting her conservative challenger. what is in it for her. congressman akin is here. >> it is great to be here. >> alisyn: you are a republican and yet the democrats spent million and a half on ads supporting you, what is up with you? >> i think clar mccaskle has

her own agenda. she has to paint me too conservative. she produced president obama to the state of the missouri and she is a rubber stamp for obama and has to push me as too conservative . she jump started the general election by getting a week or two in saying todd is too conservative. she's too liberal and she said i am too conservative. >> alisyn: she's on the record saying she wanted you to be your opponent because you are the easiest to beat because you are too socially conservative for missouri voters. what is your reaction? >> i think she is out of contact with the state and has been for a number of years. if you look at people in missouri. i am pro life and strong on the second amendment but a lot of missouri voters feel the

same way i do on that and i think she is out of contact. >> alisyn: so is this race in missouri about jobs or is it about the social issues? >> i think it is about all of these things. you know, a lot of the discussion in the campaigns has been about jobs and jobs are important. and it is about the economy, the economy is very important. we are just about to crash the economy. and the real thing in america is not just jobs and economy. it is it a loss of freedom in america and because of the loss of freedom jobs and the economy are suffering . what you have is a federal government taking over sectors of the economy. 1-6th of the economy in obama care are jumping over and getting rid of private lenders for college loans and the government tends to make a country less efficient.

we have seen that in europe. that's what you are seeing is a loss of freedom in america. you have administrative agencies like the epa. the founder separated legislative and executive and judicial . the epa writes their own laws and enforces and it is it a tyranny running around destroying jobs. >> alisyn: we have invited her back. >> i think we are conservative and i think we will win this one. >> alisyn: got it. is president obama giving safe harbor to illegal immigrants. our next guest said yes. we'll be right back. the equity summary score consolidates the ratings of up to 10 independent research providers into a single score that's weighted based on how accurate they've been in the past.

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>> brian: quick headlines. sobering new statistics are

through. the number of u.s. homes entering foreclosure jumped six percent. a year on average 104,000 entered foreclosure . a jetblue pilot terrified passengers on a cross country flight suffered another episode in prison. the details are unclear. we know that clayton osbourn must undergoing further mental evaluation before he is released. you think so. >> steve: the president's dream act was supposed to be a good thing providing protection to certain immigrants living here in the united states. but according to representative sessions it protects crim nams in this country illegally and cost taxpayers millions as well. we have the details. 'll start with the basics . so call would dreamers it is

the illegals allowed to stay in the country. who are they? >> those are the children who came here illegally . they are under the age of 30 and supposed to be getting a college education in a technical school. that's who they are supposed to be. >> steve: what if they are not in school now. >> there is loop holes the obama administration said 800 or 900,000 people to apply. but there are studies that 1.8 million people may do that. they are not requiring that you go to college. you have to be enrolled when you apply . people over the age of 30 are going to be considered for this deferred action. >> steve: oh, my goodnessment tell us about public safety. this is is a huge certain for

senator sessions. the way they plan to implement the procedure. it provides safe harbor to criminal illegal aliens. couple of months ago. ice agents pulled over an illegal immigrant driving without a driver's license . had he had 10 violation and he was arrest brought to the headquarters and the federal officer said you can't do that. you have to let him go under obama's dream act he cannot be arrested and this individual is 35 years old and the officer who made the arrest refuse now he's facing a three day suspension. >> steve: are you kidding? and finally the financial dynamic where is it coming from? >> the american taxpayer. it will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. >> steve: where is it coming from? >> it is coming from the

taxpayers. >> steve: have they set it aside. >> no, they haven't. the lawmakers sent a letter asking that. >> steve: very good. thank you very much. >> thank you, steve. >> steve: still ahead on thursday morning. her deli was used in the obama adand now the owner is losing business . a showdown with jaws. a guy who survived the great white attack. he's been a country superstar forever and forever and amen. cops found randy travis crashed and wasted and naked under the honky tonk moon. meanwhile shellie griffith is 55 today. ♪ old worn out suit and shoes. ♪ i don't pay's no union dues. ♪

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- ♪ livin' in this crazy world ♪ ♪ so caught up in the confusion ♪ ♪ nothin' is makin' sense ♪ for me and you ♪ maybe we can find a way ♪ there's got to be solutions ♪ ♪ how to make a brighter day ♪ what do we do? ♪ we've got to give a little love ♪ ♪ have a little hope ♪ make this world a little better ♪ - ♪ make it a better world - ♪ try a little more ♪ harder than before >> alisyn: time for your shot of the morning. >> i think it is yours. >> no, no, no. okay, this is not okay. >> allyson: dad just standing there as a deer strolls by . you can see a deer friend

dropping in on a surprised family. the little boy in the video asking the age-old question can we keep him. the deer makes his way out house. >> steve: he ate the gold fish . >> allyson: and took a drink. >> steve: we have cameras eerywhere. >> brian: and if you see him we would like to raise him. what else is happening. steve will follow it. but one day after the government reached the deal with the fast and furious blower who claimed retaliation. the justice department creating a new position . a whistleblower ombuds man. pete who was one of the first atf agents hopes it helps

others who suffered retaliation. >> i was clear and not kind about the hear about what i saw was wrong and i was lucky to get back it work. some haven't been able to and senator grassly and chairman had been all over that. >> steve: meanwhile a shocking new milestone. more than 100 million people receiving federal welfare. that was released by the budget. food staps and medicaid topping the list. it increased from 17 million to 45 million just last year. >> alisyn: an ohio deli owner demand her store be removed from the ad. the owner said she never gave

the campaign permission to show her store and she's lost business because of it debra from mcdonalds was told that the filming was shawn it was a sura on riot doors. they are being sloppy with that. >> brian: another riot door survey. you get it, honey. country superstar randy travis found waste naked in the road. >> grayson county 911. >> i am on the road from 377 to valley view. and i just found a guy laying in the road. >> brian:is was charged with drunk driving and check out travis leaving jail in scrubs. this is his second odd alcohol related arrest. there he is wearing scrubs. >> alisyn: he was naked.

>> steve: meanwhile let's take a look at the weather coast to coast connecting the 48 states. we have heavy storms in the portions . great lakes down through the ohio valley in the great state of indiana according to the doppler. it is on the gulf coast and central plains and bone dry. current temperatures a lot of 60s and 70s . a few 50s up in new england and already it is 96. it is 96 in phoenix. later today phoenix will top out at 113 and will be hot in texas with temperatures approaching or exceeding the century mark. 90 in kansas city and raleigh . here in the big town of new york city. 86 is the high and 90s on the gulf coast. you can see tampa where they have the big convention coming up. 93. >> brian tell us about our

favorite subject in sports. >> in the olympicses in particular. unbeaten and that is how it is going to stay when it comes to beach volleyball. >> it is over here in london. >> misty may trainer who is a guest is thinking about that as she hugs carey. they continue to play in the sand and they beat jennifer and april in the all american final. u.s. men's basketball team are two wins away from olympics gold. yes, the whole country. in the quarter finals. kobe brian scored 20 points and 18 from downtown and that means far away in laymen's term. we say that for alisyn. i think he had five 3's over all . a triple double from lebron

james which is very good. they are acting like kids. >> alisyn: what was supposed to be a relaxing family vacation turned into a nightmare for one colcalifornia man. >> shark attack. on the beach. >> what beach. snuknow pamet road? >> boston beach. what is the problem. >> a shark attack. >> brian: chris meyers was swimming off of the coast of cape cod when he was attacked by a great white shark. odds thav are one in len million and chris survive here to share his story . your son was right here when it happened. >> we were trying to swim out to a sand bar on boston beach to do body surfing and we got almost out to the sand bar and

my son asked me what would happen if we got bit by a shark. i said we would be history. >> steve: hasn't happened since 1936. >> i meant history like it would be it for us. >> alisyn: toast. >> toast is how i should have put it. and the sand bar seemed far away after that conversation and just as i was starting to turn around i felt the shark bite on to my left leg. >> steve: you have your left and right leg here. so what happened. >> the shark bit on my left leg. he grabbed my left leg and it felt like it was caught and kicked at it with my light leg and i could foal nose and teeth. >> steve: you were kicking him in the snose.

i followed it was not an elephant. >> allyson: what was going through your mind at the time? >> i was thinking a shark has got my leg. >> brian: that's obvious and okay. >> steve: you kicked with it and it bit about both. >> i have a puncture wound. i don't know if it bit me a second time or initially bit the leg. i am not sure about that. >> steve: you are probably alive today because you heard about the seal warnings and they say stay away from the shore. but you are alive today because you are bonnie as opposed to a night fat blubbery seal. >> he bit me and decided i was not a seal. >> alisyn: what did your 16 year old son do.

the shark surfaced between the two of us and surfaced. we saw the dorsal fin and six feet of his back and figured he was 10 or 12 foot. >> brian: you had to swim back in with holes in your legs and how did it go? >> steve: we were actually to closer to 500 yards and it a quarter mile. >> steve: you were losing blood. >> we started swim my son said dad, are you okay. i said i have been bit pretty bad. we kept swimming . we got halfway in and i started feeling light head i wondered if i was losing blood at a pace to get back to shore. but i kept swimming. >> steve: you were lucky someone called 911 and the prognosis is? >> i am walking now and this

is, they are expecting full recovery. >> brian: you didn't feel pain until you got to shore. >> that's correct. >> alisyn: thanks for hobbling in here to tell us the story. >> brian: i can't wait until they ask you what they you did on va. >> i am excited to try but a short swim. >> alisyn: a kiddie pool. how much is too much in campaign. they may confuse voters more these ads. >> steve: pop corn and chardonnay linked to a disease? >> alisyn: you mean my lunch? >> steve: that's right. [ female announcer ] caltrate's done even more to move us.

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>> alisyn: time for quick headlines. the u.s. cleaning up a dangerous chemical left from agent orange 50 years after it was sprayed on vietnam's jungles. you may want to think twice before reaching your hand in a bowl of pop corn. the flavoring on it may trigger alzheimer disease and that is found in beer and chardonnay. >> brian: presidential candidates are ramping up for november and throwing hefty political punches and they don't come cheap. according to one research group. candidates will spend 6.5 billion on tv and cable ads this year. will the ads resonate with

voters or is there a risk of getting everybody mad and confused. joining us to weigh in. michael, the author of this book. the language of trust. what is the danger in your mind with the money. >> people are bomb bard wide ads. they tune them out or get confused. there is just too much going out there and too much clutter and people don't know what to make of them. >> brian: they are not running in new york. they are run negligent battle ground states. first of all look at mitt romney ad, he's trying to get rid of welfare form that was established in a bipartisan way in 1996. let's look. >> president obama announced a plan to cut welfare reform. under obama's plan you

wouldn't work and plan for a job. they just send you a check. >> brian: does the adwork. is the narrative consistent. obama doesn't care about hard working. but the imagery is all wrong. it has people working when he talks about obama not working. it should have welfare models as pictures. >> brian: okay, look at the adthat everybody is talking about. mitt romney killed my wife and gave her cancer ad. let's watch. >> when mitt romney and bain closed. i lost health care and my family lost health care . a short time after that. my wife became ill and passed away in 22 days. i do not think mitt romney realizes what he's done to anyone and furthermore i don't think he is concerned. >> brian: is thatarn effective

ad. >> he has a sad story and it is depressing for him. i don't think it is effective. 40 seconds is about him and his story and leaving aside all of the factual. and 30 second could be a big story. >> brian: but the heartless businessman and res about the dollar. >> that is tough and he will have to counter that narrative. >> brian: with a direct ad. >> it is in the debates and whole effort has to demonstrate the flip side. >> brian: speed in which you entcounter. >> every time the other side spends you have to spend back. you can't let accusations go unanswered. you can't be off of the air mr. #2: what should the candidate answer directly in >> for the most part. you want the candidates being

positive and candidates trying to answer the personal attacks where they really need to. and most part surigates going negative and hard. >> brian: when these ads roll out you have to hit back. author of the book. language of trust. thanks, mike. up on th run down. france facing a 75 percent tax rate. they are already seeing the affects. businesses are leaving and rich people are going and judge napolitano has the story and so glad he's not in france. he's so happy he is kissing an italian woman they just met. selth down and get something else to read. and this couple has the proof. details on a day they will never forget at the top of the hour. [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing

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welged're're the country of france facing a tax rate of 75 percent. we are seeing the effects. president raising taxes on the rich sounds familiar. should this be a warning to people on this side of the atlantic. that sounds outrageous. the u.s. could be heading down that same road. hi, judge. >> 75 cents on the wealthy. >> there is bad news and good news. the tax rate is going to produce lesss revenue for the french treasury than is now the case. a lot of wealthy people will restructure the income so they don't meet the ceiling which

is 125 million euro to hit the 75 percent rate . the good news american voters will see what is happening when tax rate goes up. revenue goes down rich people flee the country. >> steve: rich people are fleeing the country of france. a restauranteur and singer johnnie holiday moved to countries to get rid of the high taxes. and all you have to do you hear 75 percent and that is high. in the united states of america in the past highest tax rates have been in the 80 or 90 percent bracket and recently as john f. kennedy. >> yes, john f. kennedy and democratic congress reduced it from 90 to 65. more money comes in the treasury. when taxes go down, people earn more money and they pay

more money to the treasury. the french system is intended to punish the wealthy. that's the campaign of president alon . he promised the labor unions to do that. he will punish the people whom the wealthy employ. >> and we are see nothing this country. president alon is vowing to do it in the 75 percent tax rate yet it would bring in only a small amount relative to the budget woes to the treasury because there is only something like 3,000 people in all of france that fit in the category. >> it is sim botic. the president of france ran on a campaign dividing classes. sounds familiar and promised the punish the rich to help the poor. the american public will learn a lesson hopefully before election day when they see what is happening in france.

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that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm. fohalf the calories plus vgie nutrition. could've had a v8. >> ali: good morning, everyone. it's thursday, august 9. i'm alisyn camerota in for gretchen. he blames mitt romney for losing his job and his wife. but the democrats have a new problem, which is losing credibility. >> in my case, in my department,

they actually offered to buy our jobs out from underneath us. >> ali: well, the real story and more details are beginning to surface and it looks like this leads back to the campaign. we'll explain all of this. >> brian: and forget about that ad for a second. let's meet hard working americans who are really getting a raw deal from the administration because they weren't in union -- they work in unions. michelle malkin has that story. at least we hope. >> steve: from hunters to hunted. u.s. olympians getting death threats for exercising their right to bear arms. that from the tolerant left. "fox & friends," hour two for hours, coming up. >> ali: good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us. pleasure to be with you guys. >> steve: what improper would you call that? we used to have a bug light in

front of our house. >> ali: you are comparing my outfit to a bug zapper. thank you. >> steve: actually yellow light bulb. it's pretty. i like it. >> ali: i consider it sunshine. >> steve: you know what? the last hour we have not had a wasp problem. >> brian: that's true. between both of you. you're not exactly on a dimmer there either, pal. >> steve: i was waiting for that. >> brian: i'm the only one dressed as an adult! you guys are dressed like you're on nickelodeon. >> ali: we have a lot to tell you about. there has been another scare in the sky. this time an alaska jet bound for seattle makes an emergency landing when the captain reports a, quote, catastrophic electrical failure. the flight from ontario, california, losing enough cabin pressure to give some of the 135 passengers excruciating ear pain. >> it was horrible. i've never had anything like

that in my whole life. >> those are words you don't want to hear on a plane. we need to make an emergency landing. >> ali: you don't don't. the pilot land safely and alaska air pulled the plane to undergo a inspection. a developing story. american scientist rescued from the u.s. research station in antarctica after suffering some kind of medical emergency. australian rescue crews took off from new zealand last night. they battled sub zero temperatures, had to get out before the plane's equipment froze. the american now reportedly back in christ church awaiting surgery. he or she is expected to be okay. we'll give you more details when we have them. major shakeup at the susan g. komen for the cure foundation. the president announcing she'll resign and leave next month while the founder, nancy brinker, will relinquish her

decision. this in the decision o eliminate funding for breast cancer screening. she did it because of an investigation launched. mitt romney wedding crasher? republican presidential candidate pulling up his motorcade to a fund-raiser in new jersey when he stumbled upon a wedding party taking photos in the parking lot. the essential was being held at the same venue after the fund-raiser. romney stopped to take pictures with the bride and group in private am his fund-raiser pulled in 1 1/2 million dollars. i'm reading her body language. what the? >> brian: this is my day, pal. >> steve: funny. let's bring in michelle malkin. show joins us every thursday from colorado springs. hello, hi there. >> steve: let's talk about the ad everybody is talking b. most are how disgusted how low the campaign has gone of the it's where a guy tells his heart wrenching story and essentially says mitt romney killed my wife.

what's interesting is a campaign spokesperson and the campaign themselves are trying so desperately to distance themselves from the super pac that put this out. she, stephanie cutter, is being referred to as a liar because she said she didn't know anything about it. yet she did know the details of this guy's case because we'll play a snippet of a conference call she hosted with the man back in may where he told his story. listen. >> after we lost our jobs, we found out we were going to lose our health insurance and that our pensions hadn't been funded like bain promised they would be. i was lucky to find another job as a custodian in a local school district. they gave me some health insurance, but i couldn't afford to buy it for my wifement although later she was diagnosed with lung cancer. >> thank you, joe. we appreciate you and david sharing your experiences. >> brian: that's kind of specific for somebody who says she doesn't know the story.

she was hosting the conference call. >> yeah. thank you, joe. pants are on fire, skirts are on fire. hair is on fire at the white house! this is a straight up lie. i'd like to see the romney campaign really hammer away at this and they really should be on fire themselves at team romney over how they've been slandered and libeled and caught in a blatant lie here by the obama administration. it is. i think they should repeat it loudly and instead, unfortunately, and of course, this has been the buzz on the right, we've got romney campaign staffers talking about romneycare instead. hello? this is totally totally blown up in their faces and it's time to nail the administration and the campaign for what is obviously clear illegal coordination. >> brian: but you do not like the romney camp's response? >> no.

i mean, what they've got to do is fight back and hard on the counter narrative here. remember, there is a bigger picture of smearing republicans and conservatives as heartless murderers! that is what they're trying to do here! when romney has nothing to do with what happened here. and, of course, the more that this joe sopit is ic is on the air telling the real story and doing the fact checking, the obama campaign and white house didn't do, the worse it looks for the democrats. >> ali: the details are coming out that basically the campaign did not ask the right questions or glossed over them because the latest thing is that the man was on a different cable network and talked about how it wasn't just that his job was sort of pulled out from underneath him and eliminated, it's true, that the factory did close. but he was offered a buyout. listen. >> in my case, in my department,

they actually offered to buy our jobs out from underneath us. >> steve: oh, so he did have the opportunity to take some cash from bain capital, but he chose not to? >> yes, that's right. vulture capitalism that he admitted was going to take care of him in this buyout and, of course, the fact that they had insurance at the time, that it was years and years later that the wife was diagnosed and unfortunately passed away. look, i don't think that any hostility or animosity needs to be trained at this man. he is a tool and he was being directed with this story by people in both the white house, hello, steffi cutter -- and at priorities usa, the pac that is run by the former white house spokesperson, bill burton, and they need to answer for it. not just in the narrative media story telling context, but as i said, there ought to be legal ramifications 'cause these are the very tame people who spend

every waking moment accusing republicans of doing the very same thing that they've been caught doing red handed. >> steve: dick morris was on our air last night and you were talking about the response that mitt romney and company should have. dick morris had a suggestion and it went like this. listen. >> i would put ann romney on and when her say barak obama is running an ad saying my husband is not sensitive to people with cancer and, in fact, accusing him of helping to kill and aid in the death of a woman who died from cancer. well, as you may know, i battled breast cancer and no person better supported a person with cancer than mitt romney. >> ali: would that work? >> we want to see some spit. we want to see some fire. we want to see them get in the faces of people who are accusing them of every last sin on the planet. >> steve: don't you think the

romney campaign is trying to take the high road while they are down on the low road? >> but there is nothing dirty and low about responding directly to these character assassination attempts. you know what? you don't leave that to surrogates, especially when they're attacking you personally, mitt romney, your character, your integrity. they're attacking your wife! they're attacking your wife's horse, gore foodness sake! they're attacking your way of life and our way of life. >> brian: rafalca, for the record. i have another theory and i thought about it and think it's brilliant. you ready? i believe that the obama administration, the reelection campaign is absolutely on message and has to be pleased, from harry reid's outrageous statement to this outrageous year. we're not talking about the 3 1/2 years where the president is in office, we're not talk being the economic numbers which aren't going to get better.

we're not talking about the stimulus package. we are talking about ads and responses instead of the record. so i think it's going perfect for president obama. >> well, it only is because the romney campaign has failed to capitalize and pivot. they were given a golden opportunity with this steelworker's wife cancer ad to turn around and say, guess what? you know who the real murderers are in the white house if you want to talk about figurative murder? how about the obama jobs death toll? how about the thousands of workers who have had their pensions and health care stripped from them because of this crony administration giving away things to big labor? let's talk about all of the jobs that have been snuffed out over the past four years. but no. instead, we had a romney operative talking about romneycare! what? >> ali: yeah. in fact, if you were producing the ad, you would focus in on the nonunion workers at, say,

car dealerships and delphi and gm and car manufacturers that lost their jobs that nobody is talking about. >> yeah, that's right. look. the right, the conservatives and team romney have all of the ammunition they need. as brian said, it's the record. and the romney campaign is not unfamiliar with the delphi case. when they were in ohio, they talked about it. they acknowledged it. i think there was even a web ad about it a couple of months ago. this is not a new story. i reported on it in september 2010 when the plight of these workers first came out. that the fighting litigation, fighting the white house on obstruction and a stone wall of information, on how exactly the treasury department and the auto task force co- lewded to pick winners and losers on the obligations they would choose to meet. and the nonunion delphi white collar workers were cut out of the deal. in some cases, the pensions were

erode by up to 70%. tell their stories. there is now a web ad from freedom ring about some of their stories. but these are real people as opposed to the phony fable that has been spun by priorities usa. >> brian: what is your blood pressure right now? >> steve: a huge number. >> brian: i think so. >> once i have my coffee and my doughnut, i'll be good. >> steve: breakfast for that lady in colorado springs. thank you very much. >> you bet. take care. >> steve: i think she's wound up. i think a lot of people are about this story. >> ali: meanwhile, the irs paying out billions to illegal immigrants. what's worse o'clock they ignored employees who tried to blow the whistle on the situation. the stunning new report just out >> brian: then. >> steve: sundra flock is back. can she really help rally the female vote around the

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>> ali: feuding with rush limbaugh over contraception coverage. sandra new york back in the spotlight introducing president obama at a rally in colorado. >> when i was verbally attacked earlier this year, the difference between president obama and mr. romney became very clear. after those attacks, i was heartened by so many americans. many of you who reached out to me and supported me no matter what anyone's politics were. and president obama was one of us. >> ali: how will this attempt to woo female voters play out for the president? juan williams is a co-host of "the five" and christa is the director of colorado's future project, a nonpartisan research

organization. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> ali: juan, sandra flock, interesting choice to bring out onto the campaign trail because she's either a victim of the conservative right or she's seen a sort of a lightning rod of the left. how do you think that will play? >> it's all about women. it's all about the women's vote and in colorado, it's been tightening in terms of the numbers. president obama still has a lead there. i think it's about 8 percentage points. nationally he has like a 30 or 40 percentage point lead among women voters. i think what you're seeing is in colorado a swing state, the president saw somebody who can get tremendous media attention and hopefully raise some serious issues about the difference between the president's position on things like abortion and mitt romney's position. so he thinks it will play for him and right now sandra flock getting a lot of attention. >> ali: we're showing these numbers among colorado women. the latest poll numbers,

president obama at 51%. mitt romney at 43%. nationally, the president is even doing better. so mitt romney has a ways to go winning over women at this moment. >> i think he's making a good start. the fact is that i think the addition of sandra flock to the obama campaign shows a little bit of desperation. it's kind of an insult to women like me. i'm a single woman. i want to see a balanced budget. i want to see a vibrant economy and lower health care premiums and i feel like i've got a president that's coming and saying, hey, look. free birth control. when the fact is that i'm about bigger things. i think a lot of other women are as well. >> ali: is that possible, juan, that this could serve as a turnoff to some women? >> i'll let her be the judge. i think for many people, it's a serious policy debate. you can be pro-life or pro-choice, but there is a clear distinction between the two positions held by the candidates

and when you think about something like romney saying he would take away funding from planned parenthood that provide has lot of basic services, diagnostics, that's a clear contrast with obama who says he wants to continue that funding or the obamacare business about preexisting conditions or even forcing insurance companies to provide contraception, which is what sandra flock was make the case about at georgetown university. >> ali: very quickly, i know you're not a single issue voter, but maybe some women are. maybe these social issues will be most important to them and then how does mitt romney win? >> the fact is there are women who, for being pro-life is pro choice is their number one issue and i respect that. that's their business. but for the vast majority us, it's all about the economy. it's about having a vibrant economy where we can get jobs. it's about having lower health care premiums. my premiums have already gone up under obamacare and i know that's true for a lot of other women as well. we want to see change. we want to see a reversal of

this trend. we want to see jobs for our friends and ourselves. we want to see a vibrant economy. that's all we're about. >> ali: got it. juan williams, crista, thank you for coming in. >> have a great day. >> ali: coming up, she thought her husband was being sweet, making her coffee every morning. turns out it was poison. how she busted him trying to kill her. then once they manned to rally the vote, send registrations to everyone on welfare. stuart varney says the stick is in. we'll talk about that

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die with less than that in assets. a study finding many households rely almost enterally on social security spends. next, 55 cents. that's how much the price of beer is going up per case. producers say beer making costs are going up. that's why they're doing it. finally, 18 million. that's the number of views gymnast gabby douglas had on her profile, making her the most popular athlete. michael phelps taking the silver. let's go to the guys. >> brian: a lawsuit pushing massachusetts to register welfare recipients to vote has some critics saying the fix is in. why would those critics be saying that? because one of those perhaps who brought the lawsuit is the daughter of a candidate. >> first, stuart varney is here to explain. >> i shall explain. there is a vast increase in the number of people getting a check from the government. the democrats are going out there saying, let's sign them up to vote.

so when they get the check, they'll be voter enrollment forms in the mail with that check. this is spear-headed by the democrats. case in point, massachusetts. they have ruled that if you get a check from the government, half billion people do in massachusetts -- you've got to get also a voter enrollment form at the same time. >> steve: in the same envelope? >> in the same envelope and taxpayers in massachusetts have to shell out $275,000 to get those voter registration forms in with the welfare check. who is spearheading this effort? well, it's an offshoot of the former acorn. this offshoot of acorn is in bed with an organization chaired by elizabeth warren's daughter. so it's a spear-headed effort by the democrats to get welfare recipients to sign up to vote. it's a form of buying votes with your money. >> steve: doesn't the president have relatives in massachusetts? >> i believe he has an uncle, but he is an illegal immigrant.

therefore, not eligible to vote. >> brian: here is why -- >> steve: could have assistants? >> i believe he has a driver's license, so he could get assistance. >> brian: i think this focuses more on the most competitive and impactful senate race in massachusetts more than even the president's. >> it really does because this is the far left elizabeth warren against scott brown, the incumbent republican. >> brian: decided by a point or it. >> maybe. but elizabeth warren is making a major speech at the democrats' convention that's upcoming. she will be one of the big speakers and she's the candidate in massachusetts pushing for the signing up of welfare recipients. >> brian: right before bill clinton. >> steve: that's right. great point because obviously history would be against mitt romney. we're all for you and your tv show. where is it that run? >> it's called the "fox business" network.

bn. >> brian: coming up, we'll try to go on without stuart varney and do it this way: the irs paying out billions to illegal immigrants and side lining the employees who tried to complain. does that sound right to you? >> steve: and from hunters to hunted, the tolerant left sending death threats to u.s. olympians for exercising their right to bear arms. she's doing it right there. >> brian: speaking of olympian, what's a guy supposed to do after he's won 22 medals? we know what michael phelps wants to do. get your dancing shoes on hi, i'm phil mickelson.

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reminding us that they do use bikes. but chris, come on over here. chris. how many times have you seen a car like this -- not that one right there. the one on chris' camera -- deliver pizza? russell what, are you doing? you're coming up with the ultimate delivery vehicle to replace that little car with the light up? >> that car does a lot of good things. we're in the middle of manhattan and we've seen all these vehicles with the sole purpose of doing something else other than just transporting people, like a postal truck. they deliver packages and to us, there is no package that's more important than a pizza. >> steve: we're showing the fancy cars. what you're asking people to do is, the sky is the limit. come up with the ultimate delivery vehicle and you could wayne lot of prize money. >> i think what you can win at thend of the day is a great pizza. we're asking phones to go on ultimate delivery pizza.com starting on monday. maybe that will give you inspiration. tell us what you're looking for in the vehicle and our hope is

to actually build one. >> steve: thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> steve: you could win $50,000 of prizes. >> yeah. >> steve: i'm going to have a bite of this pizza after i do the fox cast. let's look at the weather. there you go. we've got some thunderstorms move through portions of the great lakes states. no rain in the middle. next map will show you the current readings coast to coast. a lot of 60s and 70s. the final map will show you what the daytime highs are going to be for today. as you can see, it will be over 100 across much of texas on this thursday. russell i that very much for the pizza. >> thanks for having us. >> steve: okay. ali, brian, back to you. >> ali: so professional, steve. waiting to eat after the fox cast. i would never do that. >> brian: what would be very professional is if he tossed and then ate. he bit and then tossed. >> ali: i noticed that. >> brian: again, if you're anchoring at home, take notes of that and try not to do what steve does.

here are your headlines. or my attempt at reading them. new audit on the irs shows the agency side lining employees who warned their supervisors about billions of dollars in bonus refunds sent to immigrants. according to the audit, the irs speeds ahead of accuracy when it comes to mailing checks. it pays out $6.8 billion to taxpayers using the individual taxpayer identification numbers, both legal and illegal immigrants. the irs says it's reviewing the program. republican congressian calling on the commission torre sign. >> ali: talk about bad medicine, one tennessee woman says her husband, a doctor, was trying to poison her with coffee. the woman caught him slipping barium, a toxic metal, into her morning coffee. she says she had been sick for months and suddenly improved

when she stopped drinking it. she has sin filed an order of protection against him. police raid their home, but no charges have been filed. u.s. olympians getting death threats for exercising their rights to bear arms. one posted this picture b. it didn't take long for antihunting activists to chime in. they're now posting death threats to both her and her family on twitter. annan do fur says she was hit with similar threats. >> ali: more olympic stuff. michael phelps, the most decorated olympian of all time. there is one prize he's yet to claim. a mirror ball trophy. the 27-year-old did not shoot down the possibility of going on "dancing with the stars" when asked in an interview. he said he talked to olympians apollo ono and natalie coughlin about it and they had a blast. so he wouldn't rule anything out. >> brian: they would take him in a second, wouldn't you think? >> steve: absolutely. he's so much taller than everybody else.

>> brian: you're right. so the height thing should stop him. >> ali: this is what you bring me? >> steve: a piece crust. >> ali: thank you. >> steve: it's a start. >> brian: was the dog full? high emotions. drew peterson, he's charged with drowning his third wife, kathleen savio, during yesterday's hearing, a key witness broke down in tears before even testifying. later we're told this from savio, i can kill you and make it look like an accident. that's what savio relayed to her. >> steve: judge jeanine pirro was there for it all and joins us live from chicago. never a dull day in court. >> i have to tell you, yesterday was probably the most tense day in the courtroom. it was a powerful day for the prosecution, not a good day for drew peterson. the judge, after a very loud, angry, irritated argument, made a decision that hearsay statements that kathleen savio

made to a woman who was living in her basement just months before she ended up dead would be admitted. now, understand, this was a very litigated conversation. and the issue of hearsay is really critical in this case. when the judge made the decision to allow the hearsay, the courtroom gasped and the defense that had been walking around very cocky and happy smiling, was stunned. >> ali: because it allows the courtroom to hear from the grave basically. kathleen savio, what he told her, which was, i could kill you and make it look like an accident. how rare is it that a judge would allow hearsay? >> the bottom line, alisyn, is that hearsay statement is very, very critical to this case. but when someone is speaking and they're not available for cross-examination, there are real issues. this is the key element of the

trial. it is very unusual. the judge had indicated from the beginning that he didn't seem to be inclined to accept it. now the witnesses, including this school teacher who lived with kathleen, will come in and talk about how kathleen savio was fearful, how her husband or ex-husband, drew peterson, threatened her in one case, came in in a swat uniform and told her he could kill her, make it look like an accident. as a result, she put a knife under her mattress. this witness called the state police three times right after kathleen died to tell them. the state police didn't return her call. it was another day of bad testimony for the state police who allowed professional courtesy of drew peterson to sit next to his fourth wife, holding her shoulder, holding her leg to make sure that she told the police what happened on the weekend that kathleen died. >> steve: oh, man. >> really amazing stuff. very tense courtroom yesterday. >> steve: yesterday. wait until he testifies and the money is probably even of

whether or not he'll do it, right? >> well, he's the kind of guy that is very confident, very cocky. he said a lot of stories that have gotten him a long way. but he looked totally deflated yesterday. i think he was stunned with the court's ruling. the court to allow stacy basically -- kathleen, i should say, to speak from the grave and now there is a possibility that stacy's statements about kathleen may come in as well. this whole trial has taken a completely different turn yesterday and now the prosecution looks a lot stronger than it did from the first week. >> steve: so many moving parts to this case. it's good that judge jeanine joins us from chicago with post-game analysis. her program, saturdays at 9:00 o'clock right here on the channel. >> ali: thanks so much. >> thanks. >> ali: former u.s. senator has been accused of running one of the meanest campaigns in history. so what does he think of that latest ad from obama supporters connecting mitt romney to a woman's death? >> brian: he's been the recipient of it, i know that.

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>> brian: quick headlines. talk about a surprise delivery, a man in dc ordered a high definition television from amazon. instead, got a high powered assault rifle. he called the police when the box showed up. turns out the rifle was supposed to go to a gun shop in pennsylvania. that explains it. and a moose getting stuck in a swing set in utah. a brave deputy cutting the links one by one. he saved the moose. we're almost out of them. eventually it was able to get free. we'll follow this story for years. >> by the end of the stage 4.

there was nothing they could do for her. she passed away in 22 days. i do not think mitt romney realizes what he's done to anyone and i furthermore, do not think mitt romney is concerned. >> steve: that ad being called a new low in flat out untrue by the romney campaign. but is it really? the man accused of having the meanest campaign in the country in 1998 here to respond. >> ali: former new york city senator al demotto. you're no strange tore mean campaigns. in 1992 you were called a fascist by your challenger. i mean, is what we're seeing now par for the course or has this ad set a new record? >> it's an all-time low. it is horrific. look, i've run negative ads. i remember back in '80, my friends would say, the ads you were running, it's hard.

let me tell you, it was hard, but it was truthful. this is a sham, to accuse mitt romney of really poisoning the death of his wife is so full of nonsense, his wife died seven or eight years after the cop closed. he had an opportunity for a buyout. he also had an opportunity to put his wife on his own insurance in his second job. chose not to do that. his wife had a job at the time when bain closed. romney was no longer there. by the way, who manufacturers this ad? this guy has been a shell for the obama campaign and made three other commercials not with the super pac and by the way, this super pac, you know when is running it? a former bill burton, former obama white house guy, an aide. >> steve: the campaign is supposed to be separate from the super pac. but when you look at -- it looks

like there is coordination with the video from this and everything else. >> totally coordinated. breaking the law. by the time you would get to prove it, the campaign will be over. >> ali: what do you mean they're breaking the law? >> you're not supposed to have coordination between the campaign and the super p a, c. here they have the obama former aides running this. here they have the obama administration people in the administration talking to this guy and they deny even knowing him. one of his aides has been proven that she has been talking to him. >> ali: they do not know the details of his story, but there is a conference call we've been playing this morning where he tells the story on a conference call to stephanie cutter. >> steve: now she says she didn't know the story and the romney campaign is calling him a liar. let me ask you this, senator, the president of the united states, you know, it could be annicktive ad. but he is ultimately responsible. it's despicable what the ad says, mitt romney killed my wife. if the president were watching

you right now, would you ask him to take down the ad or apologize for it or what? >> i'd say, mr. president, you have an obligation to say that we're not going to use these kinds of tactics. i want this thing stopped even though legally he can not supposedly tell him. but i want it stopped in the interest of fairness because we have better things to say. >> steve: hope and change, where did that go? >> hope examine change. the fact of the matter is, he made a loft promises, he hasn't been able to keep them. they're afraid of fighting on the record. they have to deflect. so that's why they have to say you have harry reid coming out and saying, he hasn't paid income taxes in ten years. >> steve: he had a good source. >> yeah. we asked a source. did he examine the record? this is the kind of thing that has people saying, i don't care about these guys. i don't care about any of them. but i think it's going to backfire because this is so outrageous. the romney campaign could stay on this because they have an obligation to set the record

straight. >> ali: have they been forceful enough? >> i think they can be more forceful. i think they have been. but it's interesting, the great news organizations, the "new york times," doesn't say a word about it. here they criticize romney about his critique of the welfare program that they're attempting to change instead of work fair and make it strictly welfare, they go after him. they don't say a word about this super pac, the distortions and this horrific thing, really saying that mitt romney was responsible for this man's -- his wife's death. >> steve: the "new york times" print all the news that fits their agenda. >> their agenda, you're right. >> steve: thank you very much. >> ali: great to see you. do you think premium gas is better? do you think a hybrid car saves you money? john stossel says those are among the top gas myths and you should never buy in. he can prove it next. >> steve: gas myths. first, back in 1975, the bee gee high school this song number one

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>> brian: gas prices soaring over the past month. more than 30 cents more a gallon in some states. can you believe that? now with the prices at the pump back in the spotlight, john stossel found himself back here. he sent out a challenge to consumers about what they think about gas. >> where do we get most of the oil from? >> i think like arabian countries. like saudi arabia. i'm assuming that's where. i know it's not from america 'cause the prices wouldn't be so high. >> is america going to run out of gasoline? >> yes. >> when? >> probably in 2015. >> steve: joining us now is the

host of stossel and the author of no, they can't, john stossel. we don't get gas from the united states because -- >> we get most of it from the united states. of what we import, most of it comes electric those evil countries, mexico and canada! only 20% of the imported oil comes from the middle east. >> brian: are we running out of gas? >> that's been predicted for years. president carter said it 40 years ago. human beings being what we are, keep inventing new ways to get more gas out of the ground, fracking. that's different from gasoline we put in our cars. it's an example of how ingenuity wins. >> steve: you're trying to debunk some things, one is we're running out of gas and we're not. also what about america's ultimate goal should be energy independence. >> trade is good. if we were independent -- food independent, next time we had a drought in iowa, we would really

suffer. it's good that we trade for things. it makes us better off. >> brian: we are disgusted, true or false, we are disgusted about oil profits? >> people are and when we hear about the 30-cent price increase, bill o'reilly will blame a oil conspiracy on my show. oil profits, 8% for mobil. 6% on average. profits for other countries are 20% in the software business. the government takes a higher percent of the money with gas taxes than oil companies do. >> steve: also one of the things on that thing that you explode is the fact that electric cars and ethanol are good for the environment. and america. the problem is, because they've got to put ethanol, which is made from corn into gas with the drought going on right now, the price of corn is up. the price of gas is up. >> also it takes energy to make the ethanol and the electric cars. where do they get their electricity from? coal. the national research council

says worse for the environment. >> steve: look at that. >> yet we're subsidizing. >> steve: gas has gone up. what about premium? is that supposed to be better for your car? >> no. and lots of people think it is and waste their money buying premium gas. certain special kind of high performance cars. it will say it in your owner's manual. most cars don't need it. >> brian: that's good to know. we'll watch your show tonight at 9:00 o'clock. is that okay? >> yes. that's okay. >> brian: we also watch you on the weekends. >> good. repeats on the fox channel. >> brian: you're just as good. >> the business channel, which not everybody has. >> brian: soon they will. >> steve: so ask for it. demand it. john, thank you very much. >> brian: john stossel was just here. now of two move on. you scratch my back, i will scratch yours. the adorable video you will be talk being all day. >> steve: i thought you were asking me. >> brian: no. >> steve: the vp short list getting shorter. mitt romney down to three.

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the vice presidential pool down to three. some say four. inside information suggests mitt romney closing in on his pick. it should be a fourth name be added into the mix now? we're going to ask that of former new york city mayor rudy guiliani who is here live and dressed like steve. >> steve: he is. >> brian: "fox & friends" starts now. >> former mayor rudy guiliani, you're watching "fox & friends," one of my favorite shows. >> steve: okay. it is close. but we have different colored ties on. >> i have the wrong tie. i thought i had the right one. >> steve: we'll change ties. >> brian: he doesn't want your tie. >> steve: come on over. great to have you. we've got so many thin. there is so much going on with this dirty ad that they're running on one side. we want to hear what you think about the vice president and so much more. but first, should we listen to her do the news? >> absolutely. >> ali: we want to also hear about your fashion sense. >> brian: your tie matches alisyn, what am i doing here?

>> ali: stand by, mayor. we want to get to your headlines. this fox news alert. there is huge news in the george zimmerman case. his lawyer announcing that there will be a so-called stand your ground hearing which could clear zimmerman of all charges in the death of trayvon martin. florida's stand your ground law allows people to use deadly force if they feel their life is in danger and that is what zimmerman claim what he did the night he shot and killed trayvon martin. during the hearing, a single judge will hear all of the evidence that would eventually come out in the trial and then decide whether zimmerman acted within his rights. if the answer is yes, zimmerman will be set free. he'll also be immune to all civil litigation in the case. no word on when this pivotal hearing will take place. we will keep you posted. there has been another scare in the sky. this time in alaska air jet bound for seattle makes an emergency landing when the captain reports a, quote, catastrophic electrical failure. the flight from ontario, california, losing enough cabin

pressure to give 135 passengers excruciating ear pain. >> it was horrible. >> i've never had anything like that in my whole life. >> those are words you don't want to hear when you're on a plane. we need to make an emergency landing. >> ali: pilots landed safely in san jose. alaska air pulled the aircraft from service to undergo a detailed inspection. now to a developing story. american scientists rescued from the u.s. research station in antarctica after suffering some kind of medical emergency. the details are scant. australian rescue crews took off there new zealand last night. they battled sub zero temperatures to land and had to get out before the plane's equipment froze. the american now reportedly back in christ church awaiting surgery. they are expected to be okay. you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours, steve. a boy and his dog -- oh, my god. helping each other get to those

hard to reach places. they'll do it for nearly a minute. the adorable video now a huge hit on youtube. a little lower, steve. thank you. those are your headlines. thank you. >> steve: meanwhile, keep reading. >> ali: the outrage is growing over a super pac ad, you've seen it, the one in support of president obama that claims mitt romney is to blame for a woman's death. they certainly connect the dots and details more thanking that the obama campaign knew more about the story than they have claimed. doug mckelway is live at the white house with more. tell us everything, doug. >> good morning to you. it's becoming increasingly clear that this campaign attack ad put together by priorities usa, obama super pac is as some critics maintained, either chalk full of distortions or downright lies. here is a little bit of the ad. >> by then it was stage 4. there was nothing checked do for her. >> the obama campaign is

distancing itself from that ad, bent la bolt saying, as you know, we cannot coordinate with super pacs and didn't produce the priorities ad. on tuesday, jay carney deflected attention from the ad by telling reporters during a press briefing that he had not seen the ad. now it's come to light that last may, joe soptic, the star of the ad, was featured in an obama campaign ad, a different ad, in addition to that last may, he was featured in an obama campaign conference call with deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter. so clearly the campaign knew who joe was. here is a little bit of that conference call. listen up. >> i was lucky to find another job as a custodian in a local school district. they gave me some health insurance, but i couldn't afford to buy it for my wife. a while later she was diagnosed with lung cancer. >> it also suggests there was some coordination between priorities usa and the obama

campaign. priorities usa being run by bill burton, the former deputy press secretary. while in response to all of this, the romney campaign issued its own statement, it reads in part: quote, on the same day president obama's own campaign was caught lying about the contents of a discredited super pac attack ad, president obama has the gall to warn voters of super pacs just going crazy. it is the latest hypocrisy from the obama campaign. that from campaign spokesman ryan william. so all of this obviously more fodder for the campaign trail today. we'll be very -- it will be interesting to see what develops as this day progresses. >> ali: thanks so much. >> brian: let's bring mayor rudy guiliani officially in to the fray. this ad, mr. mayor, do you think it's part of

president. this is an extraordinary reelection campaign. i've never seen a person run for office and not talk about their record. clinton ran on welfare reform. producing 100,000 cops on the street. reagan ran on morning in america. he's running on gee, i haven't been president for the last four years. and romney is a bum. >> brian: i think you circle that one. you don't want this rich guy who doesn't like people to be president and kills jobs. >> i've been doing ads saying why don't we try a successful man for president. here is a man who was successful at bain capital, successful as governor, successful running the olympics. we tried a guy who didn't have much accomplishment. look what we got. now let's try somebody who has been successful. >> steve: speak of successful, bill clinton was successful in passing welfare legislation where if you wanted welfare, you had to work for it. now the current president wants to undo that with waivers to the states and stuff like that. we've had a welfare milestone,

over 100 million people now receiving some sort of welfare. it's interesting, one of the drivers of that number, single women now on welfare. so obama got elected through single women -- >> the times editorial, outraged about the ad about how obama wants to undo welfare reform. no question that president obama wants to move us to be much more of a dependency society, extending unemployment is a great example. you can have a view of extending it, but it extends dependency, extending a lot -- food stamps. trying o really create fewer people paying taxes. 47% of -- if you look at what obama wants to do to the tax code, we'd end up moving that number closer to 50%. it's a terrible direction for us to be going. there is no question that secretary sebelius' memo was an attempt to look for new ways to

redefine work. so that you could qualify for the work requirement -- >> steve: if you're journaling. >> i am really angry about this. i started welfare reform before clinton and newt gingrich did the -- i started in 1994. i started with work fair. i forced people on welfare to go to work. "new york times" went crazy! they went crazy! i said if you want to have welfare, you got to work 20 hours a week for me in new york city. 36,000 people went to work. ultimately, i moved 500,000 people off the welfare rolls. most of them with jobs. >> ali: then president clinton followed that model and got lots of credit. >> fabulous. and deserved the credit. although he vetoed -- president clinton will defend president obama. i like bill clinton a lot. >> brian: he's done it. >> he vetoed the thing twice. newt gingrich created welfare reform. eventually president clinton went along with it after vetoing it twice. >> ali: of course, the white house says what they are trying to do with welfare is give the states more latitude, that they want to transfer the control to the states, that they're not

trying to rule out the work element of it. but you see it as a back -- >> if you read that memo carefully, the attempt is take the definition of work, which has already become a squishy definition, and extend it to, gee, i'm getting training for work, by reading books, or i'm getting training for work by going to therapy. or i'm getting -- here is what work is. work is getting up in the morning and going to work. that's what creates and retains the work ethic. and the fact is that this president is moving us -- obamacare, moving us to a society of a lot more dependent people and that would be a disaster for us. >> brian: one of the most intriguing things about this whole process, we're inside 90 days, looking at two conventions. they say we're doing to two guys. who is your -- >> i put marco rubio on the list, too. i liked them all. every single one could be president, which is the first and most important thing.

i like marco because i think it does make a connection to the hispanic vote that we need. beyond that, i think it makes a connection to the young people. i think he's the most useful in the way in which he presents himself. frankly, if this election with he'll over 40, romney would win by 14%. it's 40 and below where we need help. >> steve: mayor, what about you? >> everybody you mentioned, much better choice. i think they would do much more for the ticket than i would do. i think any one of them is a good choice. couple of others we haven't mentioned that would be very good. >> ali: such as? >> i'm not going to put any more people out there. getting -- i'd leave a friend out and they'd get really angry. everybody is angry at me because -- i like speaking my mind. if i were mitt romney, i would pick marco rubio. >> ali: even though people say that he's young, good and bad. >> okay. let them argue he's not qualified enough. the guy sitting in the white

house has significantly less qualifications than marco rubio had. >> steve: because in addition to being a u.s. senator, he was the speaker of the house. >> that's right. which carries a tremendous amount of executive responsibility, as well as legislative experience. >> brian: a question about you, would you be interested in having a role in the federal government? >> i'm interested in getting mitt romney elected because i believe that four years more under obama and things could become irreparable in terms of this march toward dependency society, which is why i think this ad about welfare, even if the times can technically argue with some of the details of it, it's part of a whole picture that romney has been -- that obama has been doing to us for four years. >> steve: all right. a real pleasure, mayor. you are a sharp dresser. >> brian: you avoided two big questions. why you wouldn't be number two and -- you wouldn't want to be a cabinet secretary?

>> i'm very happy with what i'm doing. if we can get mitt romney elected, we got a republican house and senate, i'll be a very, very happy man. i don't need, want anything but that. >> ali: rudy guiliani, great to see you. need a home loan but worried that bad credit may get in your way? bob massi has a solution for you. he's answering your e-mails next. >> brian: then remember the terrifying midair rant that got a pilot kicked off the job? now he's at it again. we'll explain. [ donovan ] i hit a wall. and i thought "i can't do this,

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>> ali: our next segment is something you've been clamoring for, millions of americans are struggling to refinance their mortgages. so we told you last week about streamlined fha loans. they can lower your monthly mortgage payments by up to $300. apparently you still have a lot of questions about these loans and we have some answers for you now. >> brian: not we. he. bob massi, fox news' legal analyst. what could you tell us about what we discussed last week? >> first of all, we got an enormous amount of response, brian. and the fha streamlined loan as we talked is where you can actually take the original loan that you had that was fha and you could request through your lender to have the interest rate lowered. you don't have to qualify. you don't have to -- they don't to to check employment. no appraisal is necessary. it's a simple process. we got pretty interesting

questions. >> ali: let me read one to you. if you're eligible for a streamlined fha loan, do you still have to pay normal closing costs associated with refinancing? >> yes. you do. because it's just like when you go to get refinance of any kind of home, even though it's a streamline, in other words, they're taking your interest rate from where it was and bringing it down more to current competitive rates, yes, you have to go through a closing. you have to pay closing cost and that's why i stressed last week to deal with a good mortgage broker or your lender so you completely understand what those costs will be. >> brian: here is another question: can the lender still ask for a credit check before an fha loan is approved? >> this is very interesting, brian. the fha streamline guidelines say there is no credit pulling required. but a lender -- remember, fha insures the loan. that's what they do. but the lender could do what

they call an overlay. i got a lot of e-mails saying they called their lender and they still say they have the right to pull their credit. that is true. the lender could say look, bob, we want to pull your credit. we want to see what your fico scores are. a lot of times they want fico scores 620 or above. the lender could still control that, but it is still a process, all the more reason why you educate yourself through the mortgage broker and lender to learn what the lender's requirements will be. but that's about the only thing, brian. everything else is exactly what we talked about last week with the fha guidelines. >> ali: last question from a viewer action how does the streamlined fha loan affect your mortgage insurance? >> this is very important. most of the loans that we got on fha was pre2009. so when you do the streamline fha, your mortgage insurance is like .01%, very, very minimal. however, if your fha loan was after 2009, mortgage insurance

could be more. again, get the opinion from the broker. see if the numbers work. >> brian: if you have any questions and you want to be part of the show, you can e-mail bob by logging on to our web site and clicking on the shattered dreams tab. we hopefully will be able to pick that up a little bit. >> ali: he'll remr. your dreams. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> brian: straight ahead, pizza no longer a cheap family meal. papa john's prices going up thanks to government's new healthcare law. a papa john's owner here to explain why next. >> ali: and he's been a country superstar forever and ever, amen. police just found randy travis crashed, wasted, they say, and naked under the honky-tonk moon. >> brian: wasn't he married to julia roberts? >> ali: no.

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>> ali: i have quick headlines. the president and founder of the susan g. komen foundation are stepping down, the major leadership shakeup comes amid continuing fallout from komen's decision earlier this year to briefly end funding for planned parenthood. and that jetblue pilot who terrified passengers scream being terrorism on a flight has now suffered another psychotic episode in prison, shouting a similar rant. he must now undergo further mental evaluation before he can be released. let's go to steve. >> steve: thank you very much. if you like pizza, get ready to cough up more dough, especially at papa john's. the ceo of the nation's third largest pizza chain says once the president's healthcare law

takes effect, he'll be charging up to 1 cents more per pizza so he can keep up with the cost of having to provide healthcare insurance to more employees. the corporation is not the only one feeling the effects of obamacare. our next guest, the owner of three papa john's franchises and says the law is a bust for her business. judy nichols joins us from houston. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: so you have had a prosperous business down there in the houston area. you got three locations. you got just under 100 employees. tell me about your plans for expansion that you had. >> well, our three restaurants are doing well, so it was time for us to expand our business. we purchased a piece of property and went into debt for that. we bought blueprints. we trained the supervisor and the general manager and the assistant manager staff. we invested close to $200,000 in getting ready to open this

restaurant because most of the indicators said that the affordable healthcare act wasn't going to make it through the courts as it was written. so i moved forward with my plans to grow. >> steve: and now that it's a reality and you will wind up with a penalty of $2,000 per employee if you -- because you've got over 50 employees, what are you going to do? >> well, currently i'm at the 50 employee full-time equivalent level. so you're right. any additional employee i add, adds $2,000 per new team member tax. so i can't even increase my sales and my current three restaurants and comp sales are very important to business. chaos that this law delivers makes it very, very difficult to operate a business 'cause business does not like chaos. we like order and we like efficiency. i'm required to educate my team on the health exchanges and i need to educate my team on how

to serve our guests better. it's demanding so much from me that -- i'm a job producer by trade. that's what i do. you do news. i do jobs. i don't know what to do now. i feel unemployed. >> steve: and you were planning to expand to a fourth location and provide more jobs. but because of the affordable care act, you're not going to be able to do that. i get the feeling -- >> i can't. the math isn't there. i need 75 team members. that's an additional $150,000 a year tax i would have to pay. i can't overcome that with opening expenses. i want to a lot. i'm ready to. i just can't mathematically do it. >> steve: judy, a couple of weeks ago when the president was in virginia and said, if you've got a business, you didn't build that, because essentially he's saying the government was your partner, do you remember the government being a good partner

for your business? >> well, steve, i am the government. we the people are the government. my taxes built those roads that my pizzas were delivered on, as well as yours did. and we, the people, need to come together. we need a president that will bring us together. i hope if reelected, president obama will get better at that. he needs to learn to get better at that. if romney gets elected, i hope that bringing us together as americans is one of his major goals as well. >> steve: all right. thank you very much for joining us for this little pizza summit right here. judy nichols, papa john franchiseee. >> thank you very much. thanks for having me. we're mourning the loss of a restaurant and the 50 members we can't hire. >> steve: we appreciate you telling your story. thank you. 28 minutes now after the top of the hour. breaking news on the economy. the labor department about to release jobless numbers. eric bolling in the hall. he's got a pen and he's going to

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>> ali: this is a fox business alert. releasing the brand-new weekly jobless numbers. 361,000 first-time unemployment claims were filed last week. that's down from 365,000 the week before. and less than expected. let's bring in eric bolling to react. >> in the right direction, the 385,500 was the four-week moving average. a lot of people like to use that because it gives awe bigger picture of what's going on. that will bring that number, probably 375. still substantially higher than it should be. under 350 is where it should be. this doesn't by any means signal job growth in the economy. by any means. at one point it approached 350,000 and we're jumping back up to 375 on average on a four-week moving average. by the way, first time, people walking in, continuing claims, 3.3 million people are ongoing receiving help. >> steve: here is how the associated press says, u.s.

jobless claims fall, signaling modest improvement in the job market. would you agree with that? >> i would say noers because you need to say that trend going below 350 to see improvement. the last couple of weeks, continue the 60 week slog of revisions upward in that number. let's see what that number is revised to be. steve, could we do a little fun with the numbers? >> ali: i remember when it was this big. >> steve: white board, white suit. >> that was karl rove's. 361,000. put that in there. 361,000. look at the numbers. obama is working numbers. two fund-raisers in his term. 104 rounds of golf. 361,000 -- >> steve: he needs to relax. >> he's got two more fund-raisers in colorado. i think it's time to get back to the oval office. >> steve: the reason he's out doing the fund-raisers, he doesn't talk about the number one thing that people want to know about is how he's going to create jobs. instead, they're talking about mitt romney's tax return and all

this other stuff. >> there are no plans. the only time he ever mentions jobs or job creation or protecting jobs is when he's talking about payroll taxes, keeping taxesly. it's kind of interesting that that's the only plan he has is to use president bush's ideas, the bush tax cut, et cetera, even bill clinton's tax rates would be better than what president obama is proposing. when he talks tax, people start to listen. the problem is he's not. >> brian: it's all symbolism and semantics. when france decided they had enough of sarkozy, they put a socialist in office. they are getting a guy now that says, i will straighten out the economy by taxing those horrible rich people 75% of their income. >> the puppy thing is, sarkozy, the closet socialist, was replaced by the real socialist. france is a socialist country basically. any time you can pay that much in taxes and support that many

people, that's a socialist country. we're headed there. we're at somewhere around 50%, between state and local taxes. most states, most people at middle to upper income levels are going to pay 50% of their income to the government. >> ali: 75% is larger. it's a shocking number. this president in france is proposing and now some of the richest people there are saying that -- >> they want to leave. we'll take the costa. the other guys, you can keep. >> brian: what we learn is when the rich get taxed, the rich get going. >> that's right. they're going to scatter. the problem is, they may look at america and go, wait a minute, we're going to leave 75 for 50, 60, 70 going forward? maybe it's not the right place to go. there are low tax countries that maybe they prefer to be at. >> brian: they don't work hard. there's a limit on how much they can work a week. and they retire at 60 years old. someone has to pay.

it's the rich people leaving. i think this could be the best tool for us to realize what we don't want because that's not going to work! >> that's it. it's clear that the top level creates a lot of job, but so does the middle income level and a lot of small businesses are going to fall into that middle $250,000 or below. they're going to fall into that. they're going to get higher taxes. you had the franchiseee from papa john's on. she said, look, between obamacare and my taxes going up on the middle class, these people are gods to squeeze the middle class out of work. >> steve: and she was going to create more jobs. >> i don't know if she said it on your air, but i've seen a video where she said, i have to stop at 50 or 60 employees. i would like to have the 85 employees. i'm going to have to let them go or stop hiring people that. is exactly what was going to kill jobs. >> brian: we will see you on "the five" tonight. >> yes, you will. it will be good. i go like this all the time. no one knows what this means.

>> steve: thank you. we'll get headlines and start with extreme weather alert. firefighters in oklahoma say they've got several persons of interest who may have started several wildfires that are spreading across that state. so far they haven't made any arrests or named any names in this brand-new video, you can seat fires still burning strong. high winds, low humidity and no rain are making it difficult for firefighters to do their job. so far nearly 60,000-acres have been torched. one person sadly killed down in oklahoma. >> ali: ohio deli owner being her store be removed from an ad supporting president obama. she says it's hurting her business. the ad shows someone opening the security door across the deli as the president talks about his record on small businesses. the owner claims she never gave the campaign permission to show her store. she says a manager was told the filming was for a survey on security doors for businesses. the county's democrat party admits that may be true.

whoops. >> brian: different story now. that's why i'm doing it and alisyn isn't. randy travis found wasted and naked in the road near his crashed car. >> 911. >> hello. i'm on a road from 337 to valley view and i just found a guy laying in the road. >> brian: wow. travis now charged with drunk driving. he's 5' 9. when officers tried to arrest him, he threatened to kill the officers. check out travis leaving jail. went in naked and left with scrubs. this is his second odd alcohol-related arrest this year. he was busted for public intoxication in february. got some issues. >> steve: and this is incredible. colorado man swimming off the coast of cape cod near truro with his 16-year-old son was attacked by a great white shark. amazingly, he survived and shared his tale. it was a whopper, with us here on the show.

>> the shark bit on to my left leg. i never saw the shark, but he grabbed my left leg. i felt like my leg was caught in some kind of a vice. i kicked at it with my right leg and at about that moment, i could feel his nose. i could feel teeth. and then he let go. >> steve: thankfully. he said after the attack, he still had to swim a quarter mile back to shore as he kept losing more blood. doctors expect him to make a full recoveriment that's why he was on the show this morning. >> ali: that's scary. the ocean can be scary. >> steve: the last time there was a great white attack in that region was 1936. >> brian: right. we did not book that person. >> ali: the chances are one in 11 million. but i'm not going to take any chances. i'll stay right here on the couch. >> brian: listen, you could also stay in the pool. >> ali: okay. thank you. >> brian: just don't go to the ocean. next on the rundown, say it ain't so.

popcorn and chardonnay both link to do a debilitating disease. >> ali: then talk about a full house, ten boys, nine girls, two parents. it makes for one big happy family. stars of a new tv show. and they don't even have a tv. they don't have time to watch tv. wow. >> steve: oh, my goodness! the ratings went up to%. >> brian: they're all happy. aren't you wake up!

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>> steve: got quick headlines. the united states now cleaning up dangerous chemical left from agent orange 50 years after it was sprayed on plane -- by planes on vietnam's jungles. this effort seen as a step to improve relations with vietnam.

you may want to think twice before reaching your hand into a bowl of popcorn. turns out the flavoring on it may actually trigger alzheimer's disease. the flavoring ingredient is also found in beer and chardonnay. beware. ali? >> ali: the president's campaign claims they don't know the details about a controversial new ad, but that same campaign manager, stephanie cutter, did talk to the man in the ad on a conference call earlier this year. here is miss cutter. >> you do know that we don't have anything to do with priorities usa, that by law we're not allowed to coordinate with them, and by law, we don't have anything to do with their ads. i don't know the facts of when joe's wife got sick or when she died. >> after we lost our jobs, we found out we were going to lose our health insurance and that our pensions hadn't been funded like bain promised they would be. i was lucky to find another job as a custodian in a local school district. they gave me some health

insurance, but i couldn't afford to buy it for my wife. although a while later she was diagnosed with lung cancer. >> thank you, joe. we appreciate you and david sharing your experiences. >> ali: does that conference call show that the campaign somehow cooperated with the super pac? are they somehow stretching the law? fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. is here. >> we were all over this yesterday. so now it comes out that it appears miss cutter is not telling the truth. >> ali: she says she doesn't know the details about his wife's death and may not know about the details that it was five years later. but clearly she knows joe soptic. that's not running afoul of the law, is it? >> there could be civil penalties and more. >> ali: why? >> alleged because the issue is what's the coordination between the formal campaign and an independent expenditure committee, so-called super pac that were created after the citizens united decision at the united states supreme court.

in my view, that quote, that tape recording shows a real awareness that they were coordinating. >> ali: okay. let me ask you this: can the campaign and the super pac use the same guy in their ad? sure. >> yeah, they can use the same guy and they can use the same guy for something that's totally fellacieus, totally wrong, that totally can't be proven, something that's totally humiliating. it's against common decency, but i'm talking about the law. i'm talking about coordination. when off former white house official a deputy campaign chairman for the obama campaign that makes believe on national television that she knew nothing about this and tries to parv the language and then a tape recording of a conference call with the media and others is shown, showing yes, you were on

this conference call with this very same man and secondly, the obama campaign put out an ad involving that same man and say, no, we didn't coordinate this. we didn't know about this. mr. gibbs didn't know about this. we really didn't know about this. that's strange. that's strange truthfulness. i speak to it as a matter of law and as a matter of credibility and truthfulness. on the law, i think they have a problem. on credibility, they got a huge problem because listen to the tapes. the tapes speak more than i can. >> ali: the tapes show that stephanie cutter certainly knew who the guy was and they were all possibly going to -- >> i wasn't there if and when they coordinated it, but the inference that can be drawn from that conflicting tape is that sure, they know him well. >> ali: peter johnson, jr., great to see you. >> always wonderful to see you. you look beautiful as always. >> ali: thank you. come back any time. >> i will. >> ali: next on the rundown, talk about a full house.

ten boys, nine girls, two parents. it all adds up to one big happy family. we're going to meet all 21 stars of the united base of america. first, let's check in with bill hemmer for what's on at the top of his show. >> honey, i've got to go to the store. how do you escape that? good morning to you, by the way. >> ali: you, too. >> there is nothing but talk, talk, talk about the veep stakes. we will sort through the latest rumors and try to figure out facts. who is winning the battle over women? this is an interesting fight with both sides. with the obama team caught in a flat out lie? they say forget about that suggestion. john sununu from the romney team reacts. how many americans are getting a form of welfare today? this is a whole new level. breaking news on jobs. we've got it all for you ten minutes away on "america's newsroom"

>> brian: if you thought doing chores in your house was bad, try doing them for a family of 21. >> ed good thing about our chores is we change once a month. but believe it or not, laundry is one of those chores that no one really enjoys doing. >> we take turns. it goes back and forth. it is -- >> mom is the best at it. >> brian: bunch of nice people. joining us now are the stars of the new reality show "the united baits of america". the bates family is here. you made it here. we kick off your series at 9:00 o'clock monday night. and of course, you, mom and dad made this all possible. you, kelly jo and gill, mom and dad, the latest, the youngest, the newest star.

>> this is jan. six months old. jeff colton. >> brian: tell me about the series. they come up to you and say, we'd like to put your family on a tv series. you don't even have a television in your house! why did you say yes? >> well, actually we shied away from if attainers. after we were on the dugger show a couple of times with their family. >> brian: they're a family of how many? >> they have 19 children also. and they've been friends of ours for ten or 15 years. after being on their show, we got so much response on our web site and from other families that we thought if somehow we could encourage other people to make godly choices with their life, to love god, to love their spouse, to love kids, and to pour their life into something that's more valuable than the things of the world. >> brian: we can't mic up everyone. but we have decided to talk to aaron. you're the old at 21, right? >> i'm number three. >> brian: you're mature for your anal. let's go. first off, the first show, what are we going to be seeing that

you're looking forward to seeing? >> well, one of the shows is going to be at my grandpa's farm. it's us having a good time and playing together and enjoying our relatives. >> brian: and doing what you do. lawson, we're going to be seeing a lot. but not seeing -- we're going to see a lot of you have because you're home schooled. you don't have tv's. so when the cameras start coming in, what are we going to be seeing? >> you'll be seeing a lot of just family fun and harmony, trying get along and too long a bunch of things together. just having fun as a family. >> brian: and do we see any fighting? is this family as perfect as it seems? does anyone ever have a disagreement? >> here we are. here is the real mckay here. >> brian: o who is that? >> judson. he's the life of the party. he gets us in a lot of trouble. >> brian: so far he is the trouble. you have already run for office. is that correct, zach? >> yes, sir. >> brian: you're the town

supervisor? >> i'm a county commissioner. >> brian: so you are in charge? not in charge of your family, but county commissioner. >> i've learned a whole lot. there is a lot of great people that helped me and counseled me and stuff that worked with me. it's a humbling experience. i really enjoy it. >> brian: you said whitewater rafting is the thing you're going to look forward to seeing yourselves? >> oh, yeah. that will be great. >> brian: here is the other thing. to watch your first show, monday night at 9:00 o'clock, you're going to have to go to a hotel and watch it. you have electricity. you choose not to have a tv. >> we do have electricity. but we have chosen not have a tv. we've monitor that we watch the dvds or videos we try to -- encourage our family to build character and family relationships. we control what we watch. >> brian: you absolutely do and control what they do and everybody helps out. we're about to see the truth on tlc. i'd like to have you stick around. you'll be in the after the show show.

is that correct? >> yes. >> brian: we'll rotate the mikes around. this family is about to get on tlc. it will be a big hit. back in a moment. ♪ ♪ i want to grow ♪ i want to try ♪ i can almost touch the sky

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>> ali: you have three doors down on tomorrow's summer concert series. i'm jealous. >> steve: stop by. >> ali: i will. >> steve: or watch on tv. we'll be talking to the bates family. >> brian: it's sad because i wanted to be adopted today, but i don't have the paper it is work. watch tlc on monday. see you. bill: how would you like to try and find jobs for that family. a fox news alert. weekly unemployment numbers just out. last week's claims falling to

361,000. we'll go through these numbers. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to america's newsroom. good morning to you. patti ann: i'm patti ann browne in for martha maccallum. bill: we are well above where we need to be as a country. you can see the numbers since the numbers started faltering. we need to be below that yellow line. we have been at or above that for 195 of the past 216 week. that's phenomenal. stuart varney, you are going through the numbers. down 6,000 now. what does that tell you? >> reporter: do not grasp at straws. do not take a 6,000 reduction as a positive signal.

361,000 new faces on the unemployment lines is still way too high. it still implies far too many layoffs in this economy and the bottom line is the economy is still weak. it's sluggish at best and these numbers suggest exactly that. bill: does it suggest that jobs are coming back to you or not? >> no, it does not. a rising unemployment rate at 8.3% and 360,000-plus people filing for unemployment claims, that's a grim picture. bill: how toss each side sell this number? >> reporter: they will both play with this number. i suggest president obama will say down