then, indy the granddaddy of them all. the largest race in the world and gentlemen start your engines, we're going to keep the engines and roll on out of her. i'm harris falkner, have a fabulous week. huckabee starts now. we w >> tonight on huckabee. >> mike: this is what we want to have. >> paul ryan plan for medicare. >> for me to have-- >> separating facts from the fiction. >> this is a date we're going to win and president obama. plus, a gunman attacked a social conservative group, carrying a bag with ammo and 15 chick-fil-a sandwiches and the family research targeted. it's labored as a group. >> i think they should be held accountable for reckless terminology. tony perkins speaks out. >> amnesty for illegals?

more government jobs? on what might happen with a second obama turn. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applaus [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. and welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios at new york city. now, when you thought the peleliu campaign couldn't slide much deeper into the sewer, along comes joe biden with his race pating comment in virginia. >> they're going to put you all back in chains. >> mike: that was right on the heels of the despicable ad that attempted to link mitt romney to a woman's cancer death. even though even harry reid's vivid imagination and incredible friend couldn't stretch that far to make the competition and poor old joe biden seemed to forget what that he was in, in virginia.

>> with you, we can win north carolina again. >> mike: i'm sure you could. and then joe had a misfire of the mind as to what century we're in. >> folks, where is it written we cannot lead the world in the 20th century and making an automobile? i've not seen it written anywhere. >> mike: i've not seen it written anywhere either, joe, i haven't. nowhere. and he even had a problem remembering what of public office paul ryan actually holds. >> what governor ryan is promising to give the whole nation. >> mike: i'm sure paul ryan wishes he were a governor, it's a great job, i can attest to that. for those over the top and the laugh meter mouth messes and the vice-president is sent home without supper and seems to be placed in the timeout chair and exiled to delaware. this is just august and we

will have to wear hazmat suits in order for the political season if i can testify from the 20 years in the arena, politics is a rough game played without protective gear and padding. there's supposed to be sportsmanship and human dignity of opponents. even in the beloved south where football is not a football experience, but a player brought a rush on bow sides of the stadium and when the injured player was helped off or maybe hauled off, the crowd respectfully paid respect. and i pay respects to congressman jesse jackson, jr., and unfounded speculation why he's missing are wrong. he's getting treated for petty

politics of the day and extend our very best wishes, our prayers and our supports and respectful applause for one who had to be helped off the field of play. and hopefully his condition is going to remind awe of us, depression or bipolar standard or o . we would not suffering from a broken leg to get up and walk it off. we don't tell people suffering from a spoken spirit to just get up and be happy. it takes treatment. and there's no name getting help for either. congressman jesse jackson, jr. and i probably don't agree on almost anything in politics, but today he's not a democratic opponent he's a worthy competitor who left the field with an injury. until he's well, i hope you'll gin with me wishing him a speedy recovery and sin veer prayers for him and his

family. [applaus [applause]. >> mike: there has been a lot of misinformation about paul rhein's path to prosperity budget proposal and specifically what that would mean for the future of medicare. what is the truth? vice-presidential candidate paul ryan laid out the republican ticket's plan for medicare saturday at the villages. florida. >> here is what mitt romney and i will do. we will end the race of medicare, we will restore the promise of this program and we will make sure that this board of bureaucrats will not mess with my mom's health care or your mom's health care. >> joining us now is congressman jeff henceling, a republican from texas and worked close youly with paul ryan on budget deficit and reduction plans. great to have you here today. >> thank you. >> i'm going to continue by talking the criticism from the

democrat, it's been harsh, they say that it will end medicare as we know it. even though objective organizations have said it's the biggest high of 2011. how do you confront that? because it's so easy to say it will end medicare and how do you combat that effectively? >> well, mike, the first thing i would make is that bankruptcy is medicare, as we know it and there's nobody who has looked at the facts who doesn't concede that medicare is going bankrupt. and so we've got to do something about it. what does the president do? >> the president actually hastens the medicare by taking it out of medicare and into obamacare and something that house republicans repeatedly voted to repeal. and the second thing the

president does, he institute commissions and board and programs in obamacare and one is known as the independent payment advisory board. it's a 15 member panel of people, none of whom have to be doctors who are there to actually ration the quality and access of health care to our seniors, that impacts current seniors here and now and they're there to enforce the price controls that the president has put on medicare and obamacare. so that's the truth. now, what is the romney-ryan plan do? number one, it doesn't impact anybody over the age of 55. so people who are above 55, if they don't want to participate in this national discussion they don't have to. i hope they do because it's an important issue. you know, it's important to my 84-year-old dad, it's important to my mom about to be 80, but it's also important to my eight-year-old son and it's important to my

ten-year-old daughter who happens to be in this studio off camera right now. i want the program to be around for them. romney-ryan plan number one doesn't impact anyone over age 55 and if you're under that, when you you hit retirement age stay on traditional medicare if you want or go into a plan of guaranteed coverage options, where you choose what's best for you and your family. it's going to be risk adjusted so those who have greater needs will get a greater subsidy and those at lower incomes will also get a gritter subsidy, but it captures the benefit today of medicare and it uses the power of competition and 40 million seniors holding insurance companies accountable, versus 15 unelected appoint the bureaucrats that it would take an act of congress to overturn and that's the difference in the two programs, mike. one sustains it, not only

protects it from my parents, but sustains it for my children as well and the other one hastens the bankruptcy of medicare and rations it for current seniors. >> now, congressman, the democrats are saying that if the ryan-romney plan or-- or however you want to label it, if enacted, democrats say it's going to cost a senior about $5900 a year more than currently. where do they get that figure? and is there any truth to that at all? >> well, under the familiar any ryan plan, again, we're going to sustain medicare pa program that right now is going bankrupt. what the democrats are trying to act like is that medicare is not going bankrupt. they're trying to compare the romney-ryan plan to something that doesn't exist. i mean, the medicare trustees, the congressional budget office, they all say a roughly eight to ten years period, medicare is going broke. so they're acting, the democrats, like it doesn't

need cash infusion, under the romney-ryan plan those more well off, some seniors will pay more, some less than under current medicare if they're lower income or needs due to preexisting conditions and democrats continue to deny that medicare is getting broke and trying to put their head in the sand and that's not being honest with the mrn people. >> now, it's been a brilliant strategy move i think on the part of the romney campaign to address this issue from the very moment that paul ryan was brought on and he's doing a masterful job i think taking it right to the heart of the voters thinking about it. congressman thanks for joining me and i hope you'll take that ten-year-old out for ice cream or something fun since you had to bring him to a studio today. today. >> so this week the family research council was targeted

for its family beliefs when a gunman opened fire in the lobby of the group's headquarters and the building manager who stopped the gunman is rightly hailed as a hero. >> and tony perkins has new details on what really went down in that lobby. that's next. >> i'd love to hear from you, so go to my website, foxnews.com and click on the fox news feedback section or sign up for facebook and follow me on twitter. find the link to that and more at mikehuckabee.com. overnight relief to help get you feeling like yourself again in the morning. dulcolax laxative tablets. keep you moving. ♪ feeling free. ♪

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[applause] (applause) >> both conservative and gay rights groups have acted quickly to condemn a shooting of a guard at the headquarters of the family research council and statements from both the white house and governor romney say there's just no place for such violence in our society. now, here are the facts that we know. on wednesday morning, an armed man entered the family research council building in washington d.c. once inside, he encountered

building manager leo johnson and authorities report the gunman said, i don't like your politics. before reaching into his backpack and shooting johnson in the arm. even though johnson was wounded, he still managed to wrestle the shooter to the ground where he held him until the police arrived. >> i would say in in case, the security officer here is a hero, as far as i'm concerned, he did his job, i mean, and the person never made it past the front-- if a they are than the front door. >> gunman identified as floyd lee corkens, a volunteer at the d.c. center for the lgbt community and the fbi reports says that corkens parents say he has strong beliefs, to those he believes do not treat homosexuals in a manner. and contained ammunition and chick-fil-a sandwiches. he's been charged with

firearms and ammo, a federal offense and further charges related to domestic terrorism could be added. joining me now is the president of the family research council, tony perkens, it's been a tough week for you and a lot of your staff there at the frc. >> it's been a challenging peek for our team and there have been folks praying for us and for leo and we're grateful for that. >> i want to talk about something that's not been discussed yet, it's a very moving story, when lee heo was shot, he was label, miraculously, i think no other word, but to be able to, despite his very severe injury, to subdue the gunman and take the gun from him. and even the police chief of washington said it saved many lives. and leo easily could have taken that gun and rightfully turned it upon the gunman right then. why didn't he? >> you're right, mike.

and i'd appreciate you for this, just giving a proper description of leo, he's the building operations manager, he's not a uniformed security officer, he is not armed. he had a secondary duty of sitting the at the front desk greeting people and he was sitting at the desk on wednesday morning and the guy identified himself as someone applying for an internship. he came in and i've watched, by the way, i've watched the security tape with the fbi and leo acted precisely as a security professional would have. even without the training. he did precisely the right thing, he put a little distance between himself. the guy pulled the gun on him. he went to disarm the man and he was shot in the arm, but even the surgeon said it was remarkable that he was able to still take down this man with one arm. take the gun from him. and he had the gun on the man and i talked to leo, in fact this morning, he's doing fine, recovering well.

he could have, and would have been justified in shooting the man, because he had no idea if he had another weapon, what he planned to do, but leo told he me this, he said, in that moment, he said the lord spoke to me and said don't shoot hill. and he didn't, he called for help and other members of the team came and held him until the the police arrived. >> mike: funny when i hear that and then i hear that your group has been called a hate group. and yet, a man had the opportunity fully justified, even by every police officer who saw it and said he could have shot the intruder who was trying to kill people. and he didn't. he chose, he made a decision not to kill a man that he could have rightfully killed. he didn't. and you're the hate group? if that's hate we need more of it, tony. >> (applause). >> well, i said leo, and i, mike, as you know, i spent about ten years as a police officer and i talked to leo after the incident.

i said leo, i want you to know you made the right decision, i know you could have been justified, but you listened to the right voice, the voice of the holy spirit and glad you made the decision you did. i think you're right. it reflects our organization, there's no hate in our organization, in fact, after that i assembled my team of 80 people and we prayed for leo and one year and our team was pretty shook by this. one of our team members said, tony, let's make sure we pray for the shooter and we pray for him and continue to pray for him. >> that's a very different picture than you've been painted and when we come back i want to get into the allegations that really helped foster some of this attitude toward the frc from the southern poverty law center, you're a hate group and talk about how the media really ignored a lot of the story. we will want to talk about that when we return with tony perkens. we will be right back. and i have three beautiful girls.

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[applause] >> we (applause) >> we're back with tony perkins, president of family research council. tony, the southern poverty law center sits on a huge amount of money. endowments and 30 million a year and attack groups like yours and calling you hate groups, tying you in with the same level of characterization and they would skinheads and nazi groups. you were very bold speaking out about how this, you feel, the atmosphere contribute today what happened. explain where does the splc get the idea that you're a hate group? what's that based on? >> mike, i think the thing you pointed out. the only thing impoverished is their integrity and operations, they're sitting on

millions of dollars and making money off of spreading this hostility. and they have identified the family research council because of our policy stands on marriage, religious position, on homosexuality, as a hate group and this is fostering this environment. as you pointed out. this guy had 15 chick-fil-a sandwiches in his back to you along with 50 rounds of ammunition, and two weeks ago as the whole chick-fil-a situation was unfolding which we supported you in, the chick-fil-a appreciation day, thousands, millions of americans across the country expressed themselves in standing for the traditional values along with chick-fil-a. well, in news stories across the country and chick-fil-a was identified as a supporter of the family research council and gave us a thousand dollars a few years ago, a long, a far cry from being a big supporter of ours, but, they, they said in these stories, frca, certified hate group by the surgeon poverty law center. well, that's repeated over and over again and i don't have

the details and can't go into all the of the facts of this ongoing investigation, but there were other groups targeted that appear to be the same type of groups that have been labeled as hate groups. and so this is, this really gave a license to perkins to come in and take innocent lifers and this type of rhetoric is dangerous and it has to stop. >> mike: one of the other things that was very interesting, in the aftermath of the shooting, some of the major networks, cbs and nbc gave like 20 seconds each to tell the story, never brought up the connection with the persons affiliation with the gay rights group. treated it almost indifferently and i was struck by the fact that that's very different than had a person identified as a pro-life or a pro family activists gone into a planned parenthood office and done the same horrible thing, which i think we all would have roundly quickly and unflinchingly condemned as unacceptable. talk about the media coverage

and the lack there of? >> well, i'll be very, very candid with you, mike, i haven't tracked a the lot of the media. my first focus has been on my team in making sure they're well. i have seen some of the media coverage and i will say that, and i know we're on fox, but fox has been very good about the coverage. others, i think, have not. either they have covered-- have not covered as i'm told or covered in a very slanted way. so, you know, i'll leave that to the experts on the media to decide. but, i will say that i think we've come to a point in our socie society that this type of, really, authority that the southern poverty law center has been given through their department of justice and homeland security to create this environment of hostility must end and over two dozen homosexual activist groups at that denounced this violence and said they were concerned about leo and we appreciate that. i would ask them to take the next step and that is to call

upon the southern poverty law center to stop this labelling and marginalization of organizations and individuals that stand for religious freedom and traditional moral values and there's no place for that in the constitutional republic like ours. the cornerstone, mike, as you have advocated for and articulated are the freedom of religion and the freedom of speech. if we lose those or if we self-sensor ourselves and back up from the public debates over the important issues we'll lose the future of our conduct. >> tony perkins, thank you for being here, and i know it's a long week and a tough weekend for you and your staff. we appreciate you being here to add some real light to the story, great to see you. >> thank you, mike. [applause]. >> i could say, tony i've known the frc organization for a long time and they don't instigate. they don't advocate violence of any kind. they don't in any way, that

someone get hurt. a hate group eight to mean something bigger than that they disagree with you, i join in tony saying i think the southern poverty law center needs to act with a greater level of integrity and come forward and be more honest about what real hate is. and i think that the greatest example of true love was exemplified by the employee of the frc in that lobby that day when all of us would have said he was justified in taking the life of one who was trying and in fact had attempted to take his own life. but he chose not to. and that's not the picture of hate. [applause] well, four little words said by president obama earlier this summer, you know what? they're not going away. they could hurt him in a big way. small businesses owners are fighting against the comment "you didn't build that" i'll talk about that and more when we return, stay with us. ut ou. one a day women's 50+ is a complete multivitamin

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>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm harris falkner in new york. the crisis in syria, where reportedly some 21,000 people have died in a crackdown against anti-government rebels in the past year and syrian president assad making the first public appearance in week and state tv showing assad praying in a mosque a few hundred yards from the presidential palace much the prayers marking the beginning of a muslim holiday, the ending of ramadan. the syrian leader had not been

seen since a bombing killed four of his cop security advisors. a wildfire approaching, the fire began mid day yesterday burning through thick forests north of sacramento. and firefighters saying 3500 homes are threatened and they suspect the fire started with lightning strikes. i'm harris falkner, now, let's get you back to huckabee, for the headlines when you want them. go to foxnews.com. if you'd like to comment on tonight's show e-mail us at huck mail@foxnews.com. >> the elegs season is heating up and the rhetoric is as well. i'm going to talk to you about some things this week. small businesses owners around the country are starting to let president obama know just how upset they are over that comment you didn't build that. and this week, an iowa caterer served food at president obama's campaign event, while wearing this shirt that says

"government didn't build my business, i did." (applause) and then a bakery owner in virginia was asked why he wouldn't let vice-president biden into his store to do a photo op with a small business owner. he cited the president's you didn't build that line as well. and so, let me just react to that. i've been oh, several places this week around america and every place i've been, in fact, in places like georgia and iowa, one of the things that i hear from small business owners is how utterly incensed they were about these comments. these are many just small business owners who started in their own kitchens, working really, really hard after their regular jobs trying to build a business. and they don't remember government coming around at midnight, two in the morning henning them get their books done. in fact, a lot of the work they did because the government forced it upon them, a lot of unnecessary paper work to make it hard to try to do the thing in the first place, entrepreneurs

have been upset because they feel like they-- the last thing they needed was a punch in the gut by their own government when the government was making it increasingly difficult with a regular i tri environment, sometimes, making and succeeding in business incredibly difficult. i was in savannah georgia about a week ago, you may have seen the billboard at a lumber company owner there has, says you didn't build my business, i did, and mr. president, you can kiss-- well, you can go from there. and his name is ray gaskins and a man like so many americans really recent the notion that he hasn't worked hard. in the case of the food service people, let me say if you know anybody in the food service business, in the restaurant business, there are very few jobs harder than that. it's an early morning to late night and everything in between and you better be there personally to take care of it and these are folks on their feet all day. they're working under tough conditions and sometimes the

margins are just tiny. if they don't have people coming to the door, they won't keep the doors open and i think it's time that we recognize that, yes, you did build it, if you have a small business. [applause] >> well, governor romney, he had some strong words for president obama this week, in a speech that he gave in ohio. >> mr. president, take your campaign, the division and anger and hate, back to chicago and let us get about rebuilding and reuniting america. >> i thought it was mitt romney's strongest speech to date. some people tried to characterize the fact that he said that the the president can take his campaign of hate back to chicago, and somehow amazingly tried to make that about race. now, look, everything is not about race. that wasn't about race, that was about divisiveness, it was with trying to demonize mitt romney on a personal level, about everything from his taxes, to the way he ran bain

capital. and even accusing him of being responsible for a person's death when he was seven years after mitt romney left bain capital. and that's what he was talking about. so, let's be clear. there may be some hate going on, but it wasn't from mitt romney. let's take another quote that happened this week (applause) >> president obama went on entertainment tonight and said this about his leadership. >> i don't think you or anybody who's been watching me campaign would suggest that in any way, you know, we have you know, tried to divide the country. we've always tried to bring the country together. >> mike: whoa. (laughter) >> i had to listen to this a few times to really believe that he said that he was trying to bring the country together. i believe four years ago he said that and many of us really believed he meant it. i'm a republican and i didn't vote for president obama, but i thought that maybe he really was going to try to do what he

said four years ago in the campaign, bring people together and i really wanted to believe that he was going to at least try to do that. now, i've never seen a president who has been as partisan and whether it's trying to deal with the health care issue in bringing republicans into a room and dressing them down with their ideas and telling them, look, i won the election. they all knew that. or to get a rally avrilly and blame everything going on in this country on the republicans. now, the republicans aren't perfect, but i think that they're willing to try, but they've got to have some help and it sure doesn't help when everyone time the house sends something over to the senate, harry contrary reid sits on top of it like an egg and nothing's hatched from it yet. so the idea that he's really taking it to be bipartisan, i ain't seeing it. and finally, believe it or

not, i actually do agree with president obama every now and then. i really do. i'm always looking for ways in which i can find some common ground. this week he gave an interview to a sports radio program and he made a good point. here is what he said. turns out that political reporters are a the lot like sports reporters. they've all got opinions even though they didn't play. >> mr. president i've got to agree with you. both as someone who played the game and somebody who is on this side of the camera and microphone. a lot of people who watched it from the come from the sky boxes and they're quick to tell you and frankly all the other people in the arena what they ought to be doing and how they should be be doing it and how they should be doing it better, but many of them never had the courage to suit up and get out on the field. on that, you and i really do agree. i do appreciate those who have actually gotten in the game. and i think sometimes we listen way too much to pundits

and to people who are maybe consultants and not listen enough to how we're going to solve real problems and bring the people who are on the field together, to get na done. and that's what i hope we will do a whole lot more of. [applause] >> coming up, what are president obama's plans for the country if he is elected to a second term? my next guest says we could be looking at complete amnesty for illegals and more government jobs at your expense. author aaron klein joins me next. [applause] she doesn't need them, lisa rinna is wearing the new depend silhouette briefs for charity to prove how great the fit is even under a fantastic dress. the best protection now looks, fits and feels just like underwear. we invite you to get a free sample and try one on too. to get your feet moving to the beat. it's time to start gellin' with dr. scholl's and feel the energy from your feet up. thanks to the energizing support and cushioning of dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles,

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legal rights to work in america for two years without fear of deportation and author aaron klein says get ready, president obama is going to grant amnesty to illegals if he's elected to second term. and aaron klein's new book called "fool me twice kwodz. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about this really remarkable process that president obama put into place and sort of bypassed congress. you say in your book, if president obama is reelected we just better get ready for a wave of illegal people coming here, why? >> if this is what obama has done with the first term when he faces reelection, can you imagine what he'll do in a second term? i don't have to imagine i've gone through thousands of documents and have really divined some of what will be president obama's second term blueprint. his plans for a second term, including on amnesty. we're talking about specific plans for what's known as executive order amnesty and

interagency directives that basically grant millions more illegals defacto amnesty and defining something called a vulnerable population, which would be basically any illegal undocumented immigrant within the united states that has a salary and that has dependents, family members and that pretty much defines every illegal living in the u.s. and that's a start. there could be executive orders and there are plans for this, to identify all sorts of what is known as community based organizations, faith-based organizations. which would mean that anybody from a church, from a synagogue for who visits a health care facility. if you're in a cemetery, you can run to a cemetery or a university, that's just the beginning. >> and people are dying to get into the cemeteries, and, well, here, they're going to be staying in the u.s. and in the cemetery and that's the beginning of where they cannot be deported from and this, by the way, plans also to tie

border agents, border patrol and that's just the beginning. >> aaron, where does this come from? these are ideas that think just don't seem to make sense to most of us who say, i thought that the purpose of the president and the government was to enforce the laws not to figure out how to circumvent them or even to ignore them or to unilaterally, just dismiss them, even without legislative approval. where is this philosophical base coming from? >> this is coming from the progressive organization and think tanks that were behind much of president obama's first term agenda. i mean, obama came off as promising hope and change and then of course to transform the country and nobody bothered to ask what do you moon by transformation, the same progressive groups who helped to craft the stimulus. >> mike: such as. >> economic policy institute, institute for policy studies, a slew of think tanks heavily tried to the white house, in fact, john podesta of

progress, directed obama's transition from the office into the white house and helped to craft the stimulus bill. apollo alliance, crafted not only stimulus, but economic institute obama's health care bill. these same progressive organizations have been heavy the at work. i've reviewed thousands of documents of what they're planning for obama's second term and by the way it's not just amnesty, we're talking once these undocumented, what they call undocumented workers in the u.s. are newly legal, the next plan is to then, and use government funds for this, to register nem to vote and obviously if we're nudging closer and closer to a welfare system on which they're dependent they're probably going to vote democrat. >> mike: well, would certainly make a little bit of sense is to it. the book is explosive and get into aspects of it and specifically in job creation according to your book are

very different than what most of us think that job creation would be all about, remember when the president said the private sector was fine? he went on to say this. >> the big challenge in our economy is state and local government hiring has been going in the wrong direction. >> so, are your tax dollars going to put more state and local jobs? and that's what aaron and i are going to talk about when we return. we'll be right back. those surprising little things she does still make you te notice. there are a million reasons why. but your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood essure.

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>> we are >> we're back with aaron klein, a brand new book called "fool me twice" available at amazon book stores everywhere,

in the book you predict that instead of focusing on private sector jobs, which when most of us think jobs that's what we're thinking. you say president obama is more likely to put a focus on federal jobs like the old fdr new deal prospects. >> yeah, i mean, it's amazing that the project administration of the 20th century is coming back in a new version should obama get a second term again. and that's the tip of the iceberg of not only massive government spending, including in a second term, green stimulus and a national infrastructure bank and a massive government jobs works program, but also, if you take a step back and look at all of the plans that i've laid out in "fool me twice", it translates into, government centralization, as the centralization of our government and our lives. and obama talks about economic fairness, but just like transforming the country, no

reporter asked him what do you mean by economic fairness, what is that, fair share, what do you mean? i found second term plans for something called paycheck fairness where the government, the federal government could determine what is the fair salary or individual jobs in the private sector. >> mike: i wonder if that's going to go to some of his hollywood pals, if george clooney is going to have to take a pay cut in order to equal out to people who are grips and electricians and camera operators on the set? >> at the end of the day, i actually think the top 1% if that's what occupy wants to call them will probably not be as affected as the middle class. obama constantly talks about fighting for the middle class, seems what he's trying to do is create a welfare class, dependency on the government and paycheck fairness and talking about something, again in the second term blueprint if obama gets his second term, living wage fairness, where the u.s. government would come in, and raise the minimum

wage, this comes actually straight from marxist ideology so that every individual worker can pay for his fair share of food, of housing, of health care and this sounds good. obama private worker, wow the government is going to come in and raise my paycheck, it was tried before. in 1990's, until 2003, pushed by the way by acorn, voter fraud acorn of which obama had previous connections and didn't work and caused local economy ins over 80 cities across the country to crash and burn, and created this anti-business climate. and so, that's what we're up against here. it's free enterprise on the one hand versus what obama wants to do to our economy if he gets a second term and that's massive, massive government centralization. >> mike: aaron, these are explosive charges, you talk about the blueprint that obama

would implement. how do we know this, what is the source? if i'm a skeptic and say you're making the allegations, that's pretty big stuff. where does it come from? >> as i said the exact progressive groups behind obama first term agenda where he's been very, not-- unclear to the american public what he'll do in a second term, the people who helped to craft the stimulus and parts of obama's health care legislation and behind what he actually did with regard to amnesty and i'm literally talking about crafting parts of what became the word, the phraseology of the stimulus legislation, well, they have been hard at work for years really, at trying to push a progress stiff agenda and here, i'm recommending specifically to what obama should do during the second term. i'm not saying that obama's going to come in and implement everything 100% as it's written in "fool me twice" there's no question this is the blueprint that obama does

not want americans to know. and he's running on very general terms again, i don't understand why he doesn't give a speech where he announces his specific plans, although now i see why and that's because no american, democrat or republican, this is not about one party or the other party in politics, the american public would not support the specific plans if they know about them. >> mike: you're talking about in the same way the heritage foundation typically help republicans craft model legislation and concepts and ideas as the center for american progress and groups far fot leto the left. not a little bit, but crafting the model lafrpegislation and y know this is the agenda and not that it's all going to be implemented. >> this is the goal. i wrote a previous book i winter through thousands of documents and traced back who was behind obama's first term agenda and i was shocked by how specifically, how directly they were involved.

you can actually see time and again when different obama administration officials resigned they then and go and pop up again working for the progressive organizations including van jones, communist now working for the center for american progress and others, what's amazing, you look at the stunning corruption that's coming from obama's first term. for example, the green stimulus, so a second green stimulus and second plan and that's just the tip of the iceberg on plans of the military and slashes to the u.s. military and health care legislatures, including nudging closer toward more government centralization and singer payer system and so much more on every field. this is the blueprint. >> mike: the book is explosive and i'm sure controversy, and why you need to read it yourself and draw your own conclusions. aaron cline thanks for being here, the book again, "fool me twice" available at book stores and amazon pretty much

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