>> the storm before the here is neil cavuto. >> we continue our special coverage of the storm before the more head liance reflecting. the convention is just days away. and finding a pole of registered voters is undecided or iffq. the pair putting the focus on jobs. and talking about tough issues

like spending. two deaths are respected in haiti. isaac will be a full fledged hurricane by the time it reaches florida. we are expecting an update from florida governor rick scott about what it could impact the convention in tamp a. it is isaac. joe has been all over the storm and it could be a monster before you know it. >> the problem we have here, look at cleo in 64 and 1935 hurricane coming in the florida straits at this year, this system is capable of exploding. all of the beams just wrap up. it fought with haiti it sort of danced around haiti and cub a. and the track yesterday was

staying over to the north coast of the cuba and it misses cuba it is over the water. it is 12 or 16 hours to get organized as it moves the key. i believe it will go midway between key west and miami. we could have a category two or three storm by tomorrow night it can ramp up quickly. >> category 3? >> that is a storm with 120 miles per hour wins. >> category one. >> 75 or 85. >> 10 miles away from that. i heard most colleagues say it could get no worse than that. you think why it is worse? >> i have seen them intensify and what happen florida straits, you have a natural wave to converge in the hurricane.

i am sure they are concerned. they are not sitting there saying a category one is all it is going to be. what they want to see first and we have to look for. once the banding wraps in and the pressure start in the storm it feeds back it is like a skater pulling her arms in and all of the air up the center. and when you are looking at water temperatures. 87 or 88 degrees. amount of energy available to feed back that storm is way up. as far as tampa goes. even if the storm is a hurricane, 50 or 60 miles southwest of tampa it is disruptive but not destructive. florida keys we are concerned about north to miami. if it hits southwest of the miami, the storm surge is 6 or 10 feet in miami. that's the first place. and if we get in the energy

areas of the north central gulf it could. >> tampa dodged the bullet but the republicans are robbed of the possibility because of the seriousness of the condition. >> that's it >> these are pictures coming in from haiti. they are still not the better of the earthquake a couple of years ago. we had tend huts. and so this is doing damage there. >> it is interested in hispaniola, my father is a mertologist. if that island was not there, the united states southeastern coast line, people would not be as apt to settle in that area. that island disrupted so many storms. they get to the united states and they are weaker. >> we lose sate of that for haiti. >> it breaks up the hurricane so it is not as bad as it comes to the united states.

>> it is bad for them. >> i know that, it is to our advantage that that happens. >> understood. thank you joe very much. >> to the political storm since the veep picking critics are ripping. but are atax against paul rhine -- ryan. does my next guest have anything to do with that. you are getting out the word that paul ryan was not a granny push over the cliff guy much and i don't know if it is your word getting out or you are talking to a lot of your friends. but he has survived the initial hits against him. what do you think now happens? >> well, i think he gets his message out. the convention this coming week will be a major platform

and millions of people who don't know who he is will get to hear from him for the first time. this is a ronald regan pro growth get americans back to worth sort of fellow. if we have contracted to getting that message out about paul, i am pleased with our effort. in ohio, this is going to come down to the intensity of the base. you can take a look at 2004. when in the final analysis, 8 percent undecided almost brokine for kerry and bush. it was the superiority of the turn out of the bush campaign that put ohio in the bush column and that's what it is going to take this time around. it is a dead heat. >> it is a dead heat. i know when the -- you didn't

want him palinized . she was tarred and feathered coming out of the gate. there is a lot of conservatives that argue that this ticket that is not all that it appears to be. when it come to bailouts and both of these guys were in support and originally and follow-up votes and they are not what they appear to be and that is the next wave of attacks that paul ryan is not tough enough. >> he is not the second coming, because he is the demonstrative pro growth supply sider. larry kutlow had a great piece out that makes the case as strongly as any that i have heard i don't know anybody that can make the case and who

makes the case with anymore authority than larry kutlow . >> i will let that comment go. i will go on to this. i am very curious about what this ticket does. react to this idea. severe choppers that go after anything. the worst you can say of paul ryan and the budget claim it curves 5 trillion in to growth. we'll have the government spending more in a decade than it does now. if that is looked upon as jar conian it gives you an uphill fight to get the spend government boast under control doesn't it. >> it really does. we know that you are the king. but we have a bias.

>> we are moving on. we are moving on. >> we both, we both love jack kemp and i saw jimmy on the show today. you are right. what paul ryan said out of the gate we need a governing majority and a plausible plan and his plan bends the spending curb. it gets the harness back on the big government. >> no doubt but my point was, we make a big to do over slowing the growth and spending that's what you face. talking about tropical storms and hurricanes, just slowing the man oh, man, can you imagine trying to reverse it >> you are absolutely right here's my point. if you and i were probably in charge of the show as opposed

to getting us back to a government that's 20 percent of the gdp, we probably would have a federal government that is more like 18 percent, but i don't know how many people we could bring kick screaming. we probably would get growth at an accellerated rate quickly and lose our heads in the process . >> you have a lot of comments in your final performance with me. >> zing me. >> and president obama and countering mitt romney with an attack of his own. but are seniors buying it? e optn using a traditional lawyer? well, legalzoom came up with a better way. we took the best of the old and combined it with modern technology. together you get quality services on your terms,

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>> i am glad we are live. so much is happening fast. governor rick scott is moments

of updating the folks in the sunshine state. maria molina knows. and she's got the latest on isaac's trek. >> yes, we have a brand new advisory from the national hurricane center basically stating that isaac could be a hurricane tomorrow and categor 2 hurricane once it reemerges over the gulf of mexico. not a lot hased. we are expecting a category one hurricane over the keys and southwestern part of florida and could experience hurricane conditions as well. and today we need to make preparations out here the storm tracked north ward and a category hurricane by tuesday morn maximum sustained winds. another landfall is expected in panama beach and a category one hurricane and forecast a bit before that and that is late tuesday and wednesday

morning. a lot of heavy rain forecasted and up to 10 inches in florida and southern parts of alabama and mississippi. we can experience a storm surge five-senfeet above normal tide levels. it is important not to focous where it is. they extend 230 miles outward something to keep an eye on. the risk for tornadic activity for miami and ford myers and port st. luce. >> when it rains it does poor. >> thanks. >> our plan would force seniors to pay more a year for the same benefits. and it could end medicare as we continue. >> here we go again.

republicans say grane off of the cliff part twompt new poll showing americans buying it? more fearing that the president's health care law do to medicare than what paul ryan's reform would do. who is wrong and right. one congressman said the president is right. each man's plan does address reforms and pulling back the sales on medicare . the president all but bragged about it on an interview with abc three years ago, right? can you hear me, congressman? all right. we are on a roll. the issue that we wanted to ask the congressman and update you is that he said on medicare . there was a lot of criticism from democrats. you want to take 700 billion

out of the medicare. and white house said it is not the case. but the president three years ago appointed a congressman who is audio is now g. the gist was yeah, the president was saying that that was going to happen to secure medicare and put 700 billion in it and the health care law, what do you say now? >> there is no doubt affordable health care act made change necessary medicare. one of those changes is it improved the benefit to seniors. for example, they get free preventative check ups once a year and the drug costs are significantly lowered. both in the dough nut hole and generic drugs. >> he didn't deny the 700 billion and savings. and the democrats said that the republicans were lying about that? >> no.

both the ryan plan and the president's plan actually do remove 700 billion from medicare over a 10 year period. >> so y why is the republican plan evil and the president's not? >> it depends on where you put those savings. in the president's plan they go back to benefits for seniors and under insured poem in the nation . in ryan's plan it goes to help reduce the taxes for the super wealthy. where do you reinvent the money. both are reducing the bonus that is paid to the insurance companies for the medicare advantage program and both go after the profits that is in the system and both go after the excessive payments that are paid for hospitals when there is it a readmission for a hospital required infection. >> but it sounds like what you

are telling me. and you are a good guy and fair and want this to work. but aot o of states say this is pricier than we thought a number indicating that they are adjusting the expenses aloud for medicare and medicaid because their responsibility is more than they thought. and the same week 10,000 medical doctors are more bummed out than they have been not only over the state of health care, but a law whose dimensions they appreciate or fathom in this country. you are dropping the bomb on them? >> i met with the medical society in one of the counties in my area and they were concerned and didn't understand what the law was all about. we had a two hour discussion . >> no one knows what the hell you did? >> it is a complex law to be sure and there are two parts,

neal. one part the insurance system and collecting the mon yepaying the bep fits and the other part is the way medicine is delivered. most deals with the insurance side and how we collect money and paid. and very interestingly it does not change the basic structure of insurance system. insurance companies will be there. and federal government does what it does. one of the other important experience're differences between the president's plan and ryan plan is medicaid. there is a significant cud in medicaid and that's where many of the states are seeing the real pain. the ryan plan cuts medicaid. >> so does the president's. i want to have you back when we debate. i apologize for the audio issues. >> always a pleasure. have a wonderful day. >> isaac is not so wonderful news here.

and here's another number. 16 trillion in debt. art on that storm governor mitt romney needs to hit this on the big convention night speech.

>> neil: apparently it is not the economy, stupid. it is likeability stupid. we go back and forth on what mitt romney has to do to be more likeable who find the president more likeable. ape lot of you are e-mailing on the subject and i got a great one. watching the 2012 presidential plexion. i am reminded of bosses.

likeable bosses. hoar here is another man to react to it. the ark one of the biggest economic booms that this country experienced. he was ronald's friend. art, we are making too big of an issue of who is likeable or not. >> i like people who make me rich and give me jobs. to be honest with you, neil. and we have a president that provides prosperity. that president would be likeable quick. >> neil: said. the ronald regan who you did so much had both going for him. in the election he seemed to

be more likeable at a better alternative to jimmy carter. and people took a chance on him. he had that going into mitt romney does not. do we obsess so much. >> i remember regan in the first two years of the first term was disliked. his favorables dropped. it is when the tax cuts took affect on january 1, 1983 that the boon in the economy occurred and his likeable. bill clipton and jack kennedy same thing. it was much more likeable when they provide prosperity. >> neil: how do you describe or react to the polls that show it is a tight race and best and iffy nonexistent recovery. it must explain to the president's personal appeal? >> i don't think so. jimmy carter was doing okay.

>> neil: good point. >> he was not ahead of ronald regan andine at this stage. what people are trying to do is get their arms around mitt romney. he is unknown person to them and once they are convinced that he can right the ship and make it go. i think mitt romney and paul ryan will be enormously likeable and barak obama will be disliked as jimmy carter in due course. i feel sorry for obama because he seems like a nice man and is an american success store he has a huge albatross around his neck which he and george w put on the economy. >> neil: i would think it is settled in the debate. regan and carter only had one. in that debate, americans are looking at a lousey economy

and the president's presiding over. they are willing to dump in if the guy willing to replace him will nolt screw up. ronald did that then and that is the argument that mitt romney has to take in the polls? >> that's it. they don't want a weirdo cook coming n. i don't know if you remember tom eagleson. he had the shock treatments and george mcgovern was able to give a huge loss and put nixon in a favorable term bus mcgovern didn't seem credible. i think that is what obama tried to do with romney. but romney is credible and especially with paul ryan, i don't think obama can make him incredible. >> neil: paul ryan is getting a lot of the attention.

democrats say that he pushes granny off of the cliff and slashing medicare and grandpa eating alpo and they realized that a lot of folks including seniors in florida are open to addressing entitlements that they think have to be addressed. but the devils is in the details f. you put pen to paper the type of savings for medicare and social security and programs that are -- you risk suffering in the polls. >> life expectancy in america has increased dramatically since we put in social security. i am 72 years old and working full-time and love >> neil: you are 72? >> yes, i am. >> neil: you look so much older. >> there