>> and that guy completed the pass, michael vick was not doing that. >> harris: thanks for being here, rest up. that's our fox report on this sunday, september 23rd, 2012, i'm harris falkner, thanks for watching. huckabee starts now in a few seconds, have a great week, give me four, three... all right, here it comes. >> tonight on huckabee, pre distribution, entitlements and government dependence, it's not the america that mia love grew up in. >> the america that i grew up knowi knowing-- >> one of the stars of the republican national convention joins the governor. and how do doctors feel about obamacare? >> it doesn't allow physicians to do our job. >> asking for alternatives for them and their patients. >> everything good about health care happens between me and my patients in the exam room and the government doesn't belong there. >> plus-- ♪ .

>> life's pretty good at the top for teen idol justin bieber, before he was born, his mother at that timety had to make tough choices and explains how her faith helped her make the right ones. >> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. [applause] >> thank you, thank you, thank you very much. welcome to the huckabee show from the fox news studios in new york. we have a really lively audience and a lot of these folks, not all, but most of them are from the massachusetts republican assembly. (cheers) >> and i didn't know there was that much republican enthusiasm in all of massachusetts much less coming to our show. we're so very happy to have you folks here. if we don't learn from history. we're destined to repeat it. now, i fear that's exactly what's happening now, in the staredown between iran and

israel, appears that barack obama is neville chamberlain to benjamin netanyahu's winston churchill. one man thinks we can reason with maniacal killers and the others know that playing with a snake leads to snake bites and those who think that this is political gamesmanship. i assure you, while it might be for the white house, for israel it most certainly is not. the president has often spoken of his familiarity with muslim countries having spent some of his growing up years in it and having family members who are muslim. i've visited numerous muslim countries myself, jordan, iraq, lebanon, pakistan, and brief stops in saudi arabia and the united arab emirates. and i admit that my extent is not as near as president obama, but his experience with israel is not as close as mine, 20 trips there, many

extensive dating back to 1973. he's visited once, very briefly, for about a day, mostly to jerusalem when he was a candidate and even then spent part that have day meeting with palestinian leaders. now, i say that because i understand something that i truly don't think the president does. that is that israel is not fighting for a few extra acres or square miles of real estate. it's not battling for foreign aid for us or protection from the united states not merely fighting for its life as a sovereign nation or protecting its economy or way of life. it's literally fighting for the existence of the jewish people. jews have been haunted and marked for annihilation over 2000 years, within the lifetime of many of the present day jews, the painful memories of the holocaust are still firsthand for some of the survivors who are still alive. many israelis are one generation away from parents and relatives who were

murdered in an attempt to do what iran has vowed it will do. and wipe them from the face of the earth. and having been so close to extension, no rational personal could deny iran's mad dog leader for nuclear weapon. and israel has been our ally in the middle east, the only nation in that part of the world, its democratic government and liberties come close to mirroring ours. we have far more, we have an organic relationship with them. a threat to israel is a threat to the united states. and when an israeli soldier is sworn into the military, he or she is taken to the desert. or to the western wall for the ceremony. those soldiers swear their allegiance that mess sadda will not fall and the wall there at the time of ancient temple will not be lost again.

i wouldn't bet on president obama to stand with israel, but i would bet my life that israel will not surrender. it can't. it has no place to go. we can elect a president, but israel can't find a new home and can't lose the one to which they are biblically entitled. that's my view. [applaus [applause] >> well, according to the business bureau, 110 million americans live in a household where someone receives some type of welfare benefit and 47 million are on food stamps, shouldn't our goal be maybe to help people end independence instead of keeping them dependence. my next guest lit up the podium and spoke about the lessons she learned from her parents. >> let me tell you about the america i know. my parents immigrated to this country with $10 in their pocket and a hope that the

america they heard about really did exist. when tough times came, they didn't look to washington, they looked within. so the america i grew up knowing was centered in self-reliance and filled with the possibilities of living the american dream. >> well, joining me now is the mayor of saratoga springs, utah and republican congressional candidate, me ia love. >> how are you. >> i want to ask about the president's word he's used before. sometimes specifically and sometimes in a round-about way. the idea of redistribution, describe why you think it's not the best way for america to go about building an economy. >> well, here is the thing, you have to understand that i think we should be be

compassionate and i think that we as americans have always been compassionate, but if we're going to provide everything for everyone, then we're literally crippling our nation and there will never be enough money. what makes this country great is that we have the opportunity, ordinary people have the opportunities every day to do extraordinary things. if you take that away, then you create an environment of dependency, you create an environment where people are less self-reliant and ultimately less free. >> your folks came to this country, ten bucks in their pocket, a lot of dreams. one day they took you to college orientation and your dad said something to you, how did it affect you when he said it? >> well, i think my dad was maybe, because he's the fun parent, but i told my mom-- and you know, he got very serious and he said to me, mia, your mother and i have done everything we could to get you here today. we have never taken a handout.

you will not be a burden to society, you will give back and that stuck in my head and i've taken those principles everywhere i've gone. >> you've made it clear some people do need assistance somewhere along the way and you mentioned earlier it's not about denying people some help to get out of the hole that they're in, but that hole that they're in ought to lead to standing on their own two feet. what are some the ways that you suggest when you get to congress that you think this country could help people out of poverty, rather than keeping them in it? >> well, you know, i think that one of the things that we need to understand is when we talk about limited government, we're not talking about eliminating everything. we're just saying that everything has to be administered at the appropriate level, so many times we leave our communities, we leave our cities and we decide is solve a problem at federal government and we know when federal government tries to solve everything, the same results always happens, competition goes down, costs go up. and service levels,

efficiencies, go away. we have to give people the opportunity to help each other, to do it in their communities, to do it in their homes, to do it on a state level. instead of just going and saying, we're going to have federal government try to fix all of our problems, because ultimately we end up having a centralized government and not a free society. >> mia, if you go to congress, you'll be going there having been a mayor of a city. you understand something of government. tell me something you learned about being mayor, you hope to take washington. >> look, we here do what we usually do in america and in this country, when the tough times come, we roll up our sleeves and have to make sure to make tough decisions. ask myself three questions before making an acommitment. is it affordable, sustainable, is it my job? and if this falls within those categories then we can go and make sure that we're providing are public safety for things that really people essentially need and care about. but, if it doesn't fall in

that category, then, it's not my job to do it and i think washington can take a lesson from that. i think washington tries to get involved in so much that we're ultimately making washington bigger and people smaller. [applause] >> you know what you just said in essence is a message i hope you'll take and put on a big card, when you get to congress pass it out to the other 434 members because i don't think that's fully gotten through to everybody. is it affordable, sustainable and is it my job? because a lot of us feel that maybe there are things going on that really aren't the job of congress, but they continue to try to get in the middle of it anyway. do you think government is the primary way that we can eliminate profferty and disease-- poverty and disease and if not, who does make that happen? >> you know, it's interesting, because government-- we spent 900 billion dollars on poverty programs that support to end poverty, but it continues to grow and grow and

grow. we've the got a president who judges his expense on how much money he puts out into the community instead of how few people actually need them. and again, there are so many different-- (applause) >> well, this audience here wants you. you should have been in new york today, they all would vote for you, not all registered. maybe in utah, you can't do that. where i come from, dead people and folks who don't live there can vote anyway. mia, thank you for being here and we wish you the very best. >> thank you, very much governor. i appreciate it, thank you. [applause] >> obamacare is it going to hit about 6 million middle class americans with a big ole tax penalty. why? because they didn't have health insurance. now some republicans have gotten together with their doctors and comes up with a better plan. and later, chick-fil-a has not

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>> live from america's news headquarters, i'm harris falkner, apparently they knew more than just the layout of our u.s. consulate in libya. the fbi pressing in trying to determine if the deadly attack on the consulate was an inside job. investigators say they want to know how much they knew in advance. our u.s. ambassador and three other americans killed there. a militias behind the attack are starting to disband. and to break apart in the wake of the violent protests. and at the national zoo in washington, a giant panda cub

born just six days ago has died. keepers heard distress signs from the mom, and they got there, the cub was dead. these animals are born about the size of a stick, and back to huckabee. >> mike: when republican criticize health care, democrats come up with a response like these. >> i've been searching for the republican alternative, there is no republican alternative. >> and see the republican alternative i'm sorry to say is nonexistent. >> the shrill voices of opposition have been ramped up for weeks, loudly spreading fabrication and fear and remarkably silent when asked to produce answers of their own. >> frankly, i don't know what they want. said 131 days ago they would have a plan. and hear that sound, that's the sound of their plan, they don't seem to have one.

>> thank you so much congressman weiner, we know how things worked out for you. all right, does the g.o.p. really have no plans for health care reform? or is it just that no one wants to listen to them. well, a group of republican representatives came one a novel idea, how about bringing in the experts who know more about patient care than anyone else, like doctors, maybe ask them what they think should and should not be included in any health care plan. and joining me is texas congressman and doctor, michael burgess, ob-gyn specialist and the author of the book "author in the house" and marci dwelling who is a private practice primary care physician. thank you for being here. congressman and doctor burgess, i want to make sure you're both in there. you're in congress, but a medical doctor. is it true that the g.o.p. and republicans in the house don't have any idea for medicine. >> just watching the clips i'd forgotten how intensely

uncomfortable it was doing through 2009 and we had ideas, i think we had probably too many ideas and couldn't get them all out there, but we were never consulted. you know, interestingly, when you go back and look at the history of this whole thing, supposed to be so transparent and out in front of the american people from the start. it was about behind closed doors and cut out the democratic house of representatives because they were too much trouble. this thing was a lot, it was on rails, 0 and path, and they weren't going to listen to anybody else, didn't matter what we had. >> it wasn't doctors helping design the way that patients and doctors would react, who in the heck was coming up with this stuff. >> the secret meetings, the five folks or six folks down there. unions were down there. an interest in their contracts or collective bargaining stuff is based on their health care benefits so collective bargaining and a lot of the law, as it turned out our committee did the investigation, the report is up on the energy and commerce website for all to see, didn't

get much press, but just startling and held much, you know, they said we're going to be transparent, but then when it came time to do the work they invited the lobbyists in, closed the door and wrote the bill. >> the administration promised that lobbyists wouldn't have any part in the administration. you're in private practice. >> i am. >> mike: obamacare will affect you dramatically. let's talk about in what ways? >> governor, this act, this law unfortunately, dismembered the very foundation of health care and that's the patient-doctor relationship. everything good about health care happens between me and my patients in an exam room, four walls, a closed door, and the government doesn't belong there. this bill-- (applause) >> well said. >> this bill invites the government not just into the room, but into the process, into the decision process. it takes away choice.

it takes away privacy. i mean, imagine your records are now sent to the federal government for their perusement. it's abominable. and the sad thing is, it doesn't allow physicians to do our jobs. we just want to be able to do our job. we're professionals. we want to work for our patients. >> i introduce myself when i talk to somebody and live patients doctor. we are the mostrivileged profession in the world and every doctor in this country needs to be able to practice his expertise and work for the patient sitting in that room. and i say give them that better day. that's what they deserve. [applause]. [applause]. >> let me talk, doctor burgess, one of the things that i think were left out and i don't understand it, i'm sensitive to tthe governors of america were left out of this and the reason i say this, because in every state governors run the largest

private health care system, which is usually the largest employer of the state and also the largest public insurance plan, medicaid, huge. the costs are choking states. governors to my knowledge were not consulted on the impact for their budgets. >> no, they were not and governor herbert was at a panel just two weeks ago and he articulated that very thought. and i always wondered why in the world did we bring mitch daniels in and tie him to the chair until he spilled the beans how he was able to provide insurance for state employees, 11% and did that with a high plan that he funded and something magic happens when people spend money for health care and people their own money to begin with. >> mike: now, mitch daniels the governor of indiana and other governors are scared to death if they implement all of the terms of obamacare, medicare, in a couple of years the federal government won't

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>> let's talk, what would you say needs to be the fundamental plan of any real reform that's good for the patience? you know, what's not good for the doctors or hospital, what's good for the patients out there? >> thanks for asking. it's about time somebody asked the doctors. [applause] >> somebody had to do it, i decided it would be be me. >> first of all, doctors do not-- we acknowledge that health insurance is absolutely important and we believe that everybody needs insurance. but let's be clear, insurance is not assurance of anything. insurance needs to be that thing that you own to protect you from the the god forbid,

it's an abbing actuarial bid. and doctor would like to work for their patients and we believe in the market, a place where patients come to the office and tell us what they want and need and we can provide it in the marketplace that's so much less expensive. congressman burgess talked about high deductible plans. many doctors would love to be able to collect tax at the door, what a concept would that be. why can't we post our prices and look for our patients? everybody else does. why can't i be the best doctor in the world and compete with the guy down the street? i want to be able to be better than he. i could post my prices and i damn well better be sure that i give my patients what i promised to give them for at that price. if i don't, they should go elsewhere. >> mike: how refreshing to hear that candor.

and the final question to you. if obamacare does go forward and right now it's going to unless a new president and a new congress repeals it. >> we're going to win. >> let's hope so for that reason, but god forbid it doesn't get repealed. give me the one scary thing that america doesn't know. >> what people don't understand about the affordable care act, nothing is free. and the generous subsidies for middle class families expansion of medicaid, all that have adds town essentially 2.7 trillion dollars according to the latest senate budget committee projection. we are are 16 trillion dollars in debt today. we are going to have a dreadful fight over a debt limit extension in december, january or february, and on top of that, now, we're going to implement this new entitlement likely to be more expensive then anyone

projected. the congressional budget office, people will stay on the employer sponsored insurance. the employers say i don't know that i want to be a part of the deal and the government is going to buy them insurance, then, you know, who wants to shop for insurance at the hr department. nobody. so, this is the-- this is a big thing coming our way and the price tag is something that the country simply cannot sustain. >> mike: doctor, your concern? >> the ipath, independent payment, and this is something that we passed through, thank you, congress, something that congress did pass and it has bipartisan support. in fact, the congress person, a democrat in long beach sponsored the bill to repeal this. what it does, it takes even congress out of play. everything sits in a department of health services, all the decisions will sit there. imagine you need a procedure to save up your life, you have to call up the government to see if it's okay?

no, no, no, you will be budgeted. the health care will be budgeted. there will be a cap on health care, and in order to be beneath that cap, we're done, we're done. it will divide care, not to just the seniors, but to everyone in this country. >> mike: i think that people need to be listening to you. i wish the white house had listened to you, the members of the house and senate pushing this on the democratic side had listened to you, but can i give you good news? america is listening to you and that's (applause) >> doctor zwelling, congressman, great to have you here. when we come back, chick-fil-a responds to reports that it's giving up principles just to open up a store in chicago and mixed messages from the white house in the deadly 9/11 attack in libya. i've got a lot to say about that and some other news of the week. we'll be right back. (applause).

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>> live from america's news headquarters, the nfl players union presented a letter for the owners they want an in on the lockout. and it will only continue to jeopardize the player health and safety of the game and they locked out the referees in june after the contract expired and the players union saying inexperience officials lost control of the game and unfamiliar with the news. the washington zoo in mourning after the member of the their zoo died. they heard the panda, and her cub died. they're born small the size after stick of butter. they delicate and hard to keep alive. and now back to huckabee, you're watching the most powerful name in news, you know it, fox.

>> . >> mike: there was some stop supporting pro marriage groups and a lot of supporters were upset. i asked the folks from chi chick-fil-a myself. and i asked their ceo. the statement, there continues to be erroneous implications in the media that chick-fil-a changed our practices in order to obtain permission for a new restaurant in chicago. that is incorrect. chick-fil-a made no such concessions and we remain true to who we are and who we have been. that was good news for all of us. i think the news report that kind of went viral earlier in the weekend indicated that chick-fil-a says they're going to lay low and not say anything more and not make contributions to groups that maybe they have in the past. the reality is this: chick-fil-a is not into philosophy business, they're he in the business of serving customers chicken sandwiches.

and they never wanted the controversy in the first place. but some of us, myself included when i saw that there were people threatening their business over the fact that their ceo had some personal convictions and news and willing and courageous enough to express them, i thought, what's happened to america? when people can't stand up and say the things they want, especially when those things agree with so many of us, who believe in a biblical world view and therefore biblical definition of marriage, it wasn't being against anybody. we started on this show, chick-fil-a appreciation day and it exploded into something remarkable. and i can't tell you how many, but probably millions of people lined up at chick-fil-a restaurants all over america, some waiting in line three and four hours, not just to get a sandwich, but to make a statement, but a positive one, not against anybody, not yelling or screaming, but say we think that freedom of speech exists for everybody.

so my congratulations for chick-fil-a for making it clear they have not stood down when all of the people stood up to be counted on august the 1st. that's good news for current and convictions, and for america for that matter. [applause] the administration officials sent mixed messages about the attacks at the u.s. consulate in libya september 11th, four americans were killed, now, after four days of insisting the attack had nothing to do with anything other than an alleged film that was offensive, on thursday, press secretary jay carney switched gears and he said this, he said, it is self-evident that what happened in benghazi was a terrorist attack. later that same day, the president said this on the spanish language network, univision. >> what we've seen over the last week, week and a half, is something that actually we've seen in the past where there is a festive video or cartoon

directed at the prophet muhammad and this is obviously something that then is used as an excuse by some to carry out inexcusable acts, directed at westerners or americans. >> and now i've said this before, let me say again, not saying it lightly and not saying it to be sensational, your government lied to you. there is no doubt whatsoever there was intelligence and information that led to the clear conclusion that there was something brewing. on september the 4th, a letter was written and posted in the jerusalem post on september the 11th itself and that letter specifically said there was something brewing that might happen to the embassy in egypt. the number two security official in libya had sent word three days before to the united states, that they feared that there would be some type of uprising and possible attacks on americans

in libya, the idea that this all came from from some youtube video is irrational and insults the intelligence of every thinking person who thinks for a moment that people just decide to show up with rpg's at a consulate where the ambassador happens to be because they heard somewhere out on the street that there was some video that was offensive to islam. besides that we in america don't give up our free speech just because somebody else in the rest of the world gets their feelings hurt. now, i understand people will say, well, we shouldn't provoke people. well, i've got a better solution, instead of blaming us for provoking you, with something wonderful called the freedom of speech and the freedom of worship why don't you grow up and become something other than the incivilized kind of society that would go murder people because you didn't like the video. that needs direction, not the united states of america. [applause] well, the president had his fair share of softball interviews. the latest example his 7th

appearance on david letterman's show, they talked about brewing beer and how much the other weighs. so, he must have been shocked when univision's jorge ramos challenged him with a very legitimate question. >> when we talked about immigration reform in the first year, that's before the economy was under the verge of collapse. >> i don't want to get off into-- and the it's a problem, with all due respect, could keep that promise. >> i'm happy to take responsibility for the fact that we didn't get it done. i did not promise to get everything done 100%, when i was elected as president. >> mike: well, a couple of observations, first of all, i nominate jorge ramos to moderate all the debates. he was respectful. he was professional, but he asked some of the the toughest questions that i've seen this president face since taking the the oath of office in january of 2009.

and it's about time someone holds this administration accountable for its policies. as to the immigration question, i was shocked that the president acted as if he couldn't do it. the fact is he put nothing on the table for immigration. the reason immigration reform didn't get passed is even when the president had the white house the senate and the house more than a year and a half to shove obamacare down our throats when we didn't want it, he never put a proposal on the table for consideration for immigration reform. he cannot blame the republicans for that. they never saw his proposal. later, he took an executive action that he year before said he didn't have the legal authority to do, i think he was right then, but he did it anyway. and i think the president has a lot to answer for, maybe somewhere between now and november he will. [applause] >> well, justin bieber calls her the strongest woman he knows. but when she was his age she

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♪ never let you go >> her son is just maybe one of the most popular stars on the entire planet. and although he's just 18 years old. named by forbes magazine as the third most powerful celebrity in the the world. and i'm number one, i'm not sure who number two is, but you know, some day justin will be where i am (laughter) of course that's not true. he's quite a remarkable one man. his mother when she was 18, when he was born, you'll find out that her life was a far cry from the life she lives now. her story is told in her new book called "nowhere, but up" the story of justin bieber's mom. please welcome pattie mallette to the show. >> and i read the book and when you were a teenager you went through so many incredible struggles and as a person younger than your son is now.

>> uh-huh. >> there was a time when you attempted to take your own life. why? >> i think it was a combination of, you know, the broken home. my biological father leaving, and you know, years of ongoing sexual abuse, just sort of all of that unhealthy relationships on top of drugs and alcohol and brought me out of control to the point of so much pain and separation that i tried to take my life. >> mike: you survived the suicide attempt. you were spared from that. aen then, less than a year later you found yourself pregnant. was that a shock to you and to your mom? >> absolutely. i was justin's age and so, i think 18 and pregnant, i was such a child myself, i wasn't, i wasn't ready, especially with my upbringing, i was--

i was so broken, i hadn't matured in many, many ways and to for me to be pregnant as an unwed mom, you know, full of shame, it was-- it was hard. i was, you know, advised to abort and i just, i couldn't terminate my pregnancy. >> mike: what made you decide not to go through the the abortion? because that was the advice that your family had given you, a lot of your friends were saying, look, you're too young, too immature, financially, and it's okay, go ahead. you made the choice not to abort your baby, why not? >> it was just a personal choice for me. you know, i think, you know, that i debate pro choice in high school and fight for a woman's right to choose, but when, when i became pregnant, i knew that it was just not an option. >> mike: did you continue to use-- (applause) >> drugs and alcohol during the pregnancy or did that kind

of wake you up and say i can't keep doing that? >> no, at this point once i became pregnant i was, you know, it was a wakeup call for me to have to grow up pretty quickly, so i did my best to get my act together and surrounded myself with really great people. i had had an experience actually not in the hospital, but when i tried to commit suicide and i came to know like to me, god was real. and so i did my own thing for a while and when i got pregnant i went back and asked the church for help. >> mike: and one of the things that i found interesting, you went to a christian ministry, bethesda, there in canada that helped you through prognosissy and were you with other unwed young mothers and that was a time of development and growth for you to discover who you are and how things were going to go from there. >> i lived in a pregnancy home my whole entire pregnancy and

you know, it was a christian pregnancy home, so, i was-- i was filled with, you know, education on how to, you know, raise him and prayer and just a lot of support. >> mike: well, when we come back, i want to talk about yo your-- i found it extraordinary and helpful and instructive. and the audience will as well. good news all the members of the studio audience will be getting a copy of pattie's book, nowhere, but up. [applause] >> and going to have a great ride to boston. and when we come back, when pattie realized that her son justin could may be be a big star. we'll be right back. [applause]. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more...

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(applause) >> we're back with pattie mallette, who happens to be justin bieber's mom. which is not a bad thing to be. >> not at all. >> mike: when did you think that justin was a little different from the rest of the kids and might have something going here? >> you know, as moms i think we're all biased to our kids. >> mike: no. >> are the greatest. so, you know, i -- i've always known he was talented, but i just, you know, we all think our kids are super talented and i never imagined anything on this level. did you ever stop and think about now that he's become the international superstar, of all of those moments in your life when had you made different decisions, there would not be a justin bieber. and he would not be a part of your life and a part of the lives of so many people, the

suicide attempt, the contemplation of abortion, the drugs that could have made it impossible for you to have a child, all those, did that ever make you stop and go wow? >> absolutely. you know, for me i, with my past and everything, i just-- i just didn't think that i even deserved to have some, you know, this beautiful baby and for me it's been incredible mercy, grace, i don't know. >> mike: and you talk about mercy and grace and a lot of that comes through in your book, that for you, when you became a christian, that really said, look, you i can't handle all of this stuff, things started changing for you it wasn't like it was the road to damascus and one day it was terrible and one day that was great. that's what impressed me, it was journey, a pilgrimage, it wasn't just one moment where everything got great. >> it was messy, yeah.

you know, i don't have a story that's all tied in a neat little bow. it was a journey and i had a lot of struggles through my faith and doubts and questions, and i just -- it's raw and it's real, and you know, i made a lot of mistakes and i just had to keep going back and saying, okay, god, help me. >> what's your biggest worry for justin? he's on a spotlight and people chase him with cameras and i can't imagine how that must make you, as a mom feel? >> scary, i worry about him a lot, but, that's what moms do, and worry about our kids. but he, he's got great people around him and great security and he makes great decisions, a lot better than i did when i was his age and younger, so, i have confidence in him. >> mike: do you look out there sometimes and just say, gosh, how could could that be the same little boy that ran around in my house when i was

trying to raise him in those early years? >> i-- and it's like a big home movie for me, and i get to see him with all of his-- he looks so cute and i look back and i just, i miss him. i think when parents, our kids grow up we look back at old pictures and old videos and miss that. but, he's-- we're so close today. so, it's-- i miss that little boy, but you know, he's making me proud, young man. >> he called you the strongest woman he knows. and obviously, he adores you and loves you and i can understand why from having met you and read your book and proceeds for the book, also go to benefit single moments and people who are struggling with the very things that you did and again, all of our studio audience-- thank you so much, pattie, a

delight to have you here and thank you for being with us. i hope you've enjoyed the show, now, from new york, until next week, this is mike huckabee, good night and god bless. bless. [applause] captioned by closed captioning services, inc. try the #1 gastroenterologist recommended probiotic. align. align naturally helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ ooh, baby, can i do for you today? ♪ try align today.

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