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>> we have a bomb plot in the heart of new york city. >> the day after attack, governor, i stood in the rose garden and i told the american people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened. this was an act of terror.
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>> so, some are questioning when obama mentioned "to terror, was he referring to 9/11? benghazi? both? it does not matter for me. what matters is, what happened next? just moments after the rose garden speech, the president flew to las vegas for a fundraiser and a campaign stop and then the coverup. >> the best information and the best assessment we have today is that, in fact, this was not a pre-planned, premeditated attack. >> there are no words that excuse the illing of innocents or for video that justifies an attack on an embassy. >> i heard hillary clinton say that it was an act of terrorism. is it? what do you say? >> we are doing an investigation. >> moments ago, fox spoke to the guy who asked the libya yet last night and he said the president came up to him after the debate to explain why president obama took so long to call it a full-blown terror attack.
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he wanted to deliberate and "make sure he had all the information." this is crazy. this is really, really, this is really important, president obama tells the american public one thing and goes to a debate and says another and off camera has yet another conversation. >> request not give that answer when asked in the debate? he did wait a long-term. there you have it, he did. he wait add long time. he said he wanted more information? no, you didn't. you had conflicting stories. you should have waited to get more information. instead, you came out and talked about the spontaneous video, you apologized to the muslim community which made me think, why apologize for a terrorist attack. i have to say last night i'm surprised that mitt romney did not come back and say, that conflict was attacked twice before that day. when are you talking about when you responded. there were two attacks before the attack on helping on 9/11,
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why not do that in the spring and a month before when a hole was blown through the wall of the embassy? four americans have died and you contradicted yourself and are blocking the american people from getting answers. >> senators john mccain and senator graham have written letters asking for answers. also, last night, this line, that the president was being especially careful dealing with the middle east, it is important not to go too far. >> showing self restraint. back to the federal bomb plot, the guy, and can want to jump to conclusion, he could be muslim. actually, he is a lutheran. obama has come out, already about this plot and playing the movie "wall street." he may arrest oliver stone.
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president obama is like a guy you cannot play trivial pursuit with. if the answer is "star wars," and he says star trek he will say that is what he said. it is not the same. >> you cannot write the headlines. this afternoon we fine out an al qaeda terror plat was thwarted. >> last night there was a lot of fake outrage after this, when governor romney said, you country call it terror and he said he did. you look at the full transcript, don't take frit me, take it from your own eyes and ears, read what he said. you decide. but what kills them, is that when susan rice goes out and says something different, and what he says is that he wanted to deliberate longer to make sure but they did not deliberate long when they arrested the american filmmaker, and then
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they perp-walked him. >> and the next day on september 12, president obama said he called it terror but off camera he said he wanted to deliberate. >> good thing because it turns out, although this was according to the libyan sources, as reported in the "new york times" that these are gangs who are terrorists, no question they were terrorists, who everyone outraged by the movie and were, that was part of why they did this attack. it was not a well planned attack. it was, by the way, in your near miss could you give us a break? a near miss, a 21-year-old guy from bengladesh, he was given a bomb by the f.b.i. >> thank god the f.b.i. was involve the. >> he did not have a bomb. >> it only takes one time. one time. one time we do not thwart the guam threat and people are dead. >> if obama was right and he said that i said that day it was
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stepper, technically, the last four weeks never happened, he is living in a fantasy world with confusion and incompetence over anance blaming a video like when you wake up and you find out something is a dream. they are saying this didn't happen but that is baloney. >> if you take all of the statements made by the administration and you separate them in different rooms like they do on "csi" and ask the same question, what did you know and when? they would not, no one would have the same story. >> more answers than trivial pursuit game. >> this is a third world country in the middle of -- libya is. theyor there were gangs running around that were terrorists, in question. the libyan government, when this is said and done you will fine when you prosecute these guys you will find a bunch of
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gangbangers who have a lot of weapons. >> excuse me? are we really talking about gangs like the bloods and the cripps? every country that obama has chosen not to get involved in, al qaeda has stepped up or the muslim brotherhood. i have a list on the terrorist attacks in new york city, and you can not write them off as gang violence. >> you went on a tirade accusing the president of the united states not being conditioned about the consulate and woods 9 chief in charge of security does not mention this in the testimony on capitol hill. >> why didn't he do something then? he makes nixon look like billy graham. >> i have to get to this, it was
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the moment of the debate, candy crowley cuts off mitt romney mid-sentence. >> you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror. it was not a spontaneous you demonstration. >> please proceed. >> i want to make sure we get it right for the record, it took the president 14 days before he called it terror. >> he did, in fact, so i will call it an act of terror. >> can you say that louder, candy. >> he did call it an act of stepper and it did, as well, take the two weeks or so, for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about the tape to come out, you are correct about that. >> any question why americans are sick and tired of the mainstream media? >> who was applauding? that is the weird thing.
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it was so obvious a deception, they moved so quickly, so quickly after they realized they made a mistake but this started, obama's indignation over political siding a tragedy so if you ask for a straightance you politicize it but he has been waving bin laden's corpse for a year and that is not a political motivation? i don't get it. >> he wants do use it for his advantage. i thought what candy did was unprecedented. the rest should never be the story and she was. it is almost like a legal case being decided on a technicality rather than the stub stance of the case. >> and she had to come out and then say she had gotten it wrong, if you are going to interrupt a presidential debate with a fact check, you better be darn sure it is right and if
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not, it sullies the whole thick. i cannot believe the headline for the obama campaign, if you are a democrat and you think you won, and the headline from the debate is about libya? i have news for you that is not what happened. she became the story of the day. >> we don't think we won. we won. >> you may or may not have won but what happened, besides the fact that the moderator issue, this thing going on downtown in new york, in five or six days you will have a foreign policy debate, this is going to be huge. huge. bad timing for the obama administration. >> so they lost in the end because the issue president obama does not want on the front burner that is all we are talking about. >> this will turn out to be a local terrorist group and it will look silly. >> so you disagree with president obama? if it is just about the movie --. >> i said it was a terrorist
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attack. >> how can it be both? >> why not? >> you say it is a terrorist attack but it cannot be both. you say it was a video? you are trying to play two things, so people who follow this are frustrated because you cannot have it every way. you want it every way. >> don't you think the terrorists have reason they made this attack? >> they mate america. >> terrorists attack innocent people to advance our political motives. >> part of the political motive --. >> it is the same motive, destroy the west. >> we have to leave it there. but one thing is certain, al qaeda is on its heels and coming up the mainstream media scoring, but did he really earn it. greg has the explanation. ♪
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>> romney did great and it was hilarious to watch someone facts checking mitt, that could be the most embarrassing journalism, but amazing how accurate the headlines turn out to be, especially since they were written a week ago. was the media right to say he won? here is the proof. obama did not cross dress or shoot an audience member or strangle a kitten and pledge allegiance to satan, he did better than two weeks ago which is like saying new orleans has improved since post-katrina. there is no way he can do worse and no way the media would not give him a gold star. i call it media doping, with obama if their veins. obama put the tough guy face on
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that he pulled out for republicans, but puts away with chavez shows up for a board game. despite everything, it felt forces. confrontation is not his strong suits that is why we have drones. the media tries to convince itself their guy would do the families of the four death from libya have answers, if the libya asked that rather than cheering the president, the answer could be "yes." are you advised that the media said he won? there was a poison gust of wind across america and that was a sigh of relief from the let. >> they said to hey that. >> he could not have done worse than the last debate. what was interesting when you knew he was in trouble, you could tell because first he looked at moderator saying, help me, help me, help me, fact check
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him, or, he physically got out his seat to try and quiet romney down. what appalled me the most is when the two issues where americans died the president did not answer the question. he did not address "fast and furious" and he did not give us a straight answer on libya. that is five americans dead. >> you give it to obama, and cnn did, but you hook at the issues, like the economy and health care and taxes and deficit and leadership, he kills. romney wins on the issues how does that work? >> it tells you something that in a situation like we are in now, any plausible republican should be ahead by seven or eight points, and the reason that it is tough to beat an incumbent president is you have to have someone to take his place when romney went through the problems everyone has heard that before. what he did not come up with is a single, single, single answer
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to what he would do. i thought the best moment was when obama said we don't have a plan, and romney had some good moments but rebound came back and he had him on the defense all night long. >> that is why he is doing poorly, the real president obama came back and in all of the key areas, those areas that matter, romney was ahead in all of them including with women, and i thought that the interrupting of each other and of the moderator against both the candidates, 28 times interrupted romney and only nine times obama, something has got to change at the next commission. they should lock back on these last three debates and say we have to fix this. >> again, staying on the moderator, crowley, there were
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three occasions she tried to cut the president off because the time was off and he is said, no this is very important, this the determine the difference between the race. three times. she let him go. i had a problem with that. bob mentioned if there were a plausible republican candidate he would be winning by seven or eight points. we found out mitt romney is ahead. the answer is question, is he above 15 percent? no, the other problem that mit pit has is president obama's favorability is over 50 percent and romney spoke and gallup has him at 50, and any candidate at 50 in the poll always
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consistently went on to win and i wrote point out it should be the incumbent that should be leading, should be leading mitt romney right now you cannot put it on romney to win and third point, what was obama's plan in the fact that he didn't offer any vision for the next four years even got picked up by "new york times" editorial board today where they said what is he going to do the next four years and the "wall street journal" did the same thing. no vision for the next four years. no plan. >> you are having a stroke or --. >> i just am overwhelmed. just for purposes of the record, gallup has done a rolling poll for about three presidential elections which is not make a model for you. second, i don't believe that is an accurate statement if you have 50 percent at this stage of the game that you go on to win, i am not so sure. >> i am right. i stand by that 1 so percent. i would like to see john kerry
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versus public. there are only three races. you cannot make up a statement about historically, that is not 12 years. >> i called a person today that i trust, a mom, one of our co-hosts and i called and she was up and ready to go, if you are a mom, i'm not a mom and i wanted to know what did you think and she thought that obama came off as cocky, she has been a big romney supporter here but she said that she felt romney gave her confidence she could put her kids' future in his hands. that is something that maybe is reflected in some the polls where women across the board say it is up for leadership, economy, health care, all to romney. likability is down for obama and there is good reason. biden did not help him at all. >> we will see what the polls
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♪ ♪ >> bob, i have to ask you who that is? welcome back to the five. time for the favorite moment from the did he gate. >> i thought this was the most clear concise and damning indictment of the obama record
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over the last four years that we 6 ever heard especially on national television. >> number of people that are still looking for work is still 23 million americans. there are more people in poverty. how about food stamps? when he took office, today 47 million people are on food stamps. how about the growth of the economy? it's growing more slowly this year than the last year. more slowly last year than the year before. the only reason the unemployment is a little lower today is all the people that dropped out of the work force. the president has tried but his policies haven't worked. he is great as speaker and describing his plans and vision. is that wonderful. except we have a record to look at. >> i thought when he said that, it was so clear, wow, that was really good.
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cricket from obama side. but i thought obama was trying to be mitt romney. he was saying my tax cuts are better. he wasn't the hope and change kind of guy. he really was trying to imitate mitt mz. the piece on the chinese investment that was my second favorite. besides the hypocrisy aspect, when obama doesn't even look at it. he doesn't even look at his pension. if he isn't worried about his own money he isn't going to be worried about ours. >> i thought the exchange on the pension i don't look at my companies my mutual fund is investing in either. >> you and puppy mills. >> yes, in china. >> but dana, you would never say yours is bigger than mine. >> do you read about that thing, lack of interruption.
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romney has to do with more with less. democrats have spoken significantly longer than republican candidates. so he -- when you allow him to speak it is pretty good. >> when romney said all have those things, a republican candidate for mayor says those things. >> if they were running against obama, yes. >> it seemed to me that romney has a photographic memory. >> from the this show he had it all done. >> there are damn lies and obama statistics, go. >> what i want to do is build on "the five" million jobs that we created over the last 30 months in the private sector. think about what the governor just set. the price of gasoline, why is that? the economy was on the verge of collapse. but if we are serious about reducing the deficit if this
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moral obligation to the next generation in addition to tough spending cuts. we also have to make sure that the wealthy do a little bit more. >> three comments. jobs, obama economy is down, not up, 125,000 net jobs. gasoline comment was laughable. and because of george bush policies. this one, are we serious about the deficit? the only answer to that, if you are serious about the deficit you would elect mitt romney, not barack obama who has seen the biggest increase in the deficit. >> if you look at the facts from the time that the stimulus, first stimulus check went out there have been five million jobs. the president doesn't control dpas prices. you should know that. the third one.... >> that is great defense. we want to get to your favorite moment before we leave. >> obama's, when he talked about
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romney's elusive tax plan. >> governor romney says. he doesn't have a five-point plan. he has a one point plan. that plan is -- make a lot less. you can shifted jobs overseas and get tax breaks for it. you can invest in a company, bankrupt it. lay off the workers. strip away their pensions and you still make money. that is exactly the philosophy that we've seen in place for the last decade. that is what has been squeezing middle-class families. >> bob: the fact of the matter is romney said and ryan's tax plan is a lies. it's damn lies and worse than that. they don't have one. it's not workable.
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it's impossible to have the tax loopholes to close to pay for this thing. no. >> what is obama's tax plan? we don't have time for that. there is none. >> top 10 percent pay 70% of all federal income tack. how much more can they come up with? >> 90. >> can i say something on this, that is your favorite moment. if you look again going back to the beginning of show, deficit, government spending, governor romney up high. >> i agree with bob, it's a very important moment for barack obama, i thought it was most he has been about anything. you find out what he believed in class warfare, that is default position, he is the patron saint of occupy wall street. that was the clearest. >> it also showed that mitt romney is. he is jug carrier for top 1%.
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>> is that what you would call a backhanded compliment? coming up the more memorable moments of last night's debate. that is next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> i'm bret baier in washington. the big story a breaking news about another attempted terror strike in new york. tonight on special report, federal law enforcement officials say they've arrested a middle eastern man who was flotting to blow up the federal reserve buildings a few blocks from the world trade center site. they say the 21-year-old suspect parked a van filled with what we bloafs werbelieved were explosi.
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the van was not rear. plenty of reaction to last night's fiery debate between the presidential candidates. fireworks between president obama and mitt romney will break out major topics and examine the answers on the libya scandal, energy and the u.s. economy. the top men on the tickets are fanning out to key battleground states as we enter the final 20 days of the campaign. the panel has all the fallout. special report from washington starts at 6 eastern. now back to new york and the five. >> welcome back to the five. well, continuing now with the best moments from last night's debate, dana, your turn. >> the best part for me was the end of the debate because i could go to bed. these debates start entirely too late for me. i know the west coast is frustrated because they want to
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be able to get home in time, but 8:knitter? >> yes. i go to bed early anyway. in their closing statements i thought they showed who they want to be and the polls reflected that. do you want to look at it? >> i care about a hundred percent of the american people. i want a0 a hundred percent to e a bright future. we don't have to settle for gasoline at four bucks and uncloiment at a chronically high level. we don't have to settle for 40 million people on food stamps. we don't have to settle for 50% kids coming out of college not able to get work. we don't have to settle for 23 million people trying to find a good job. >> i also believe that everybody should have a fair shot. and everybody should do their fair, and everybody should play by the same rules because that's how our economy has grown. i believe governor romney is a
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good man. loves his family, cares about his faith, but i also believe he when said behind closed doors 47% of the country considered themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about. i want to fight for them. that's what i've been doing for the last four years because if they succeed i believe the country succeeds. >> so coming out of that, i thought if you supported mitt romney before, if you supported obama, that at the end of that night, if you went into the spin room, you could say my guy won. i thought they did well in the closing statements for themselves. i think if you go back to, if we roll back tape about six months ago, i've been saying president obama has yet to tell us why does he want to be president for a second term. what does he want to accomplish? you mentioned it in the b block. that's great. this is sound bites.
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the president did not lay out a second term agenda. he's laid out no term for the second 4 years. he was light on his agenda. >> do you want me to keep going? please do. >> i thought the best moment of the debate was that the end. >> i felt like it was recycled language that he used before, fair share, fair share. that was. the tag line. i got them, don't ask, don't tell. >> he use he didn't use winninge future. >> let me finish. he presents a vision that isn't very fair, that is unfair to those who create johns and who are more successfu successful a, which is a lie, this is how our economy is growing. he hasn't said. i don't think anyone looked at him and said yeah, you know what? great job. grait job. >> did that give you a fresh breath of air. >> supreme courtin supreme sup .
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it's when mitt romney brought up his own special binders. >> we took a concerted effort to find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. i went to a number of women's groups and they brought us whole binders full of women. i was proud of the fact after i staffed my cabinet and my senior staff that the university of new york in albany did a wa survey f all 50 states and co concluded t mine had more leadership positions filled with women in america. >> he took women and put them in binders and put them in a cabinet. people are really, really stupid if they were taking him literally. what he was saying is he has a great record of hiring women. he hires lots of williams. that's why he has their names in binders, idiot. compare that to the white house who pay the 17 to 18% less than
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the men who works in the white house, and speaking of binders, what are binders in the liberal mind? they're quotas. how do liberals get elected? by having binders of blacks, binders of his pack hispanics. they look at people as characteristics and not people. >> i can guarantee there's no binder of people like you. >> even when you heard binders full of women, did you like that part? even you said like that. >> is that like a black book? >> i was thinking if there were phone numbers attached, it would be worth while. massachusetts has always had a higher percentage of women in government than any other state. >> wha, wha, wha. >> that was very rude. >> come on. >> that's a very good imitation of bob. it's not credible to say oh, but massachusetts always had a
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better record on women. every executive ar recruiter tht works in america has a binder. do you have a recommendation who could fill a position, they have a binder. >> in 1994, his final question to kennedy in the '94 debate. romney asked him what are you going to do about the glass ceiling. he had a woman lieutenant governor and a woman chief of staff. coming up, what did each cabbed need to accomplish on -- candidate need to accomplish on monday on the final debate? we'll tell you when we come back. ♪ [ slap! ] [ slap! sp! slap! slap! ] ow! [ male announcer ] when your favorite foods fight you, fight back fast with tums smoothies.
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[ music ] >> i've always loved chubby checker. a betting site based on ireland kids odds on everything you can remember. on the race, they have barack obama at 67% versus mitt romney at 37%. other betting sites have romney beating obama. all that doesn't matter. in the final analysis, we've got about three weeks left until the race is over, thank god, and the
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question is unless debate is coming up and that's one thing they have to deal with, the foreign policy debate which was not considered a very important debate and now it is, what do they need to do? eric, when does your men need to do. >> stop looking at betting sites. i believistsi believistii beli . is al-qaeda on its heels, whether oornot, mr. president? >> a 21-year-old bangladesh guy in new york city with ties to al-qaeda. >> dana? >> the best news for you is do you know that we get today on the day of the election? talking about the 2016 election. it will be great for four years. what do i think they need to do?
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boy, i think it might be a little about toilet for presiden-- too late for president obama who say he hasn't laid out a second term agenda with less than three weeks ago. he has to do like what he did last night, continue to try to get his base to turn out so that he can mitigate mitt's advances. >> mitigate. nice. >> i've been much better than you today. >> greg, what do you think? >> if the focus is on foreign policy which in obama's brain means bowing. it's one word, benghazi, benghazi, benghazi. he cannot hide behind it's too political to ask about it. mitt has to keep going who was the source that told you it was the movie? then he asks to ask the american public are you better off than you were 90 minutes ago? >> i think president obama needs an actual decisive win. i said that yesterday. he didn't do it last night.
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he needs a decisive win, not just one chattered by the class in the immediate i media that b. mitt romney has to be better. he has to pressure him. last night mitt romney got a question on how he was different when this comes to the economy and then george w. bush. i would like to hear mr. obama get asked the question about national security issues. he cannot sit there and stonewall. he's not going to have candy crowley to save him. i hope bob schieffer is much tougher. >> the toll raised for obama, $432. for the romney campaign, hears the $279. >> i just said this i. it's wrong. >> they've raised a heck of a lot of money. >> the biggest media markets are
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buying in. it's interesting where they're all the same except north carolina. he does not have it there for good reason. they're pulling out. >> okay. bob, give the gums a rest. >> that's coming from you? one more thing is next. [ music ]
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>> time for one more thing. not a lot of time. we'll set it up quickly. jimmy kimmel live recorded this before the debate last night. remember. before the debate. watch what happens. >> who do you think won last night's presidential debate? >> oh, um, i'm going to go obama. i'm going to go with obama. >> who do you think won the presidential debate? >> that was definitely mr. obama. >> any highlights from the debate? no. i thought he was a little more alert this time like not so slacking like before. >> did you watch the whole thing? >> oh, yeah. >> were there any highlights for you? >> there were so many i can't even tell you. it was a great, great debate. >> well done, jimmy kimmie. >> okay. that was funny. yesterday we had dennis miller join us on the five. today he was on the campaign trail with mitt romney. take a look. >> i think romney gets off on fixing things, and you know it needs fixed right now.
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>> that might be the only time you hear something like that said at a mitt romney event. >> good man. good friend. >> you're up. >> look yo up obama girl. the right has her own version of the it girl. >> she's hot, too. [ music ] >> finally someone that loves 0 livolivia newton-john, too. >> real quick, welcome to the world. >> last night i tweeted with my lovely dog casper. he actually helped me tweet throughout the entire night. he's only a few weeks old and he can recite homer's odyssey in
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pig latin. he works in soup kitchens. >> you took a picture of yourself? >> i was lonely. >> bob, you're up. >> there's a body builder that i recognized who this was. if you look at him, he did have good job, but he got a 10 every place else except for his head. that's really his head. that really is eric. >> kind of the opposite. >> i'm a 10, my body's night. >> what is that guy going to do when he's older? it's all going to be flab. >> it's all steroids, greg. >> we're all going to be flab when we get older. >> i'm a perfect example of that. look what happened. >> we've gotta go. don't forget. we're telling me, greta. >> that president obama spoke toe debate will be on g

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