>> the average national polls-- we gotta roll. that's all the time we have left. thanks for being with us. see you tomorrow night. >> greta: tonight, donald trump taking on obama again. this time, there is money involved. donald will tell you what he wants to buy, donald trump is here. and there are new email, fueling the fire over libya. >> this is the second bit of evidence now that the white house was told, practically immediately what was going on and who was behind it. but the news now is that we have a terror group saying, look over here, it's us. >> we have been asking the state department for these specific emails for weeks now and they have refused to give them to us to this point. we knew from the intelligence community that an saral-sharia

had claimed responsibility for the attack. >> posting something on facebook is not, in and of itself, evidence. i think it just underscores how fluid the reporting was at the time and continued for some time to be. >> it's maddening. and to have the story basically ignored and covered up today is evidence -- i think the regime is barely holding its campaign together. >> this is the first stop on our 48-hour fly-around campaign marathon extravaganza. we are going to pull an all nighter. we are starting here in iowa, going to colorado and then to nevada, then to florida, virginia, ohio... i am going to stop in chicago to vote. >> four debates behind us, including the vice-presidential debate, the president's been unable to find an agenda and to

communicate an ajebda and defend an agenda. that's one reason why we think we know, he is out of ideas and out of excuses and in november,ure going to put him out of office. >> as the president said, the day after the second debate, when asked about romney, he said, well his plan seemed awful sketchy. well, folks, i don't like to -- the president was wrong. they are not sketchy, they are etch-a-sketchy. >> the truth is, mitt romney and i believe in true compassion and upward mobility. we are offering real reforms for lifting people out of poverty. mitt and i have a message that is bigger than party. we are speaking to all americans in this campaign because we believe, as jasm kemp believed that economic growth and equality of opportunity are the surest path to the pursuit of happiness in america. >> greta: tonight, former new york city mayor rudy guiliani is

here. when he was on the record last week, he suspected the white house of a coverup at benghazi. does he still suspect a coverup. has it gotten strung -- stronger. >> sean. >> much stronger. the three emails released today make it clear that the white house knew that a terrorist group claimed credit for this attack. i have never heard of anyone dismissing the idea that a terrorist group claimed credit for an attack. what's the question you always ask? has anyone claimed credit for it? the answer is, a terrorist group did and the white house suppressed that information, never told anybody that. >> greta: the thing that has been so baffling, i hate to beat a dead horst, 9/11, on an american installation, our consulate in benghazi. there was no protest beforehand. it wasn't spontaneous t. seemed targeted. but if there had been a protest, that would have been reported somewhere. >> of course. >> greta: they get this email

at -- at 6:07 our time, saying that the embassy in tripply reports a group claimed responsibility on facebook and twitter and called for an attack on the embassy. >> that's just about the time i was going to sit down with all the people who survived september 11 that night. we had heard about the attack. our first conclusion it was -- was, it was a terror attack. i didn't need this. remember, the president of the united states also should have known that that consulate was attacked twice in the six months before, attacked in april, attacked in june of there was a whole drill through the consulate, big enough for a truck to go through. the president should have had all of that information. >> greta: he may have known that and been dismissive of it. >> then owing an explanation to the american people why he didn't protect the ambassador there. there was no reason for this man to die. >> greta: i guess the reasonna i mean, besides the new information and email, we talk about it again because it's a

very important topic, four americans were killed. i don't understand, why did they come out with the videotaped story. if it's a lie, it's a stupid lie because there is -- you know you will be caught because there is nothing to support it in this written trail. >> every coverup is stupid, right. the coverup is always worse than the crime. although i am not sure that's correct here. competent procedures could have prevented this. if the president had taken seriously the two prior attacks and listened to the people begging for more security. i believe what was overriding all of this was they wanted to present libya as a great success for the way in which they defeated al qaeda, killed osama bin laden, everything's great. they made the right choices in libya. they hadn't unleashed a lot of terrible forces they didn't think about before they got involved in all of this. i think they were very worried about the political consequences here and that's why they went so

far to cover this up. >> greta: you would think they would realize this would come out. how successful could they be with four americans dying? >> they only had, what? two months to go. >> sean: wait it out. you. i mean -- i guess the nixon administration waited out watergate? right? >> greta: there has been some criticism because it doesn't look like anyone was mobilized. i don't know if anyone could have done anything. i don't know if anything could have been done. but as far as we know, nobody's mobilized. >> it should have been done beforehand. the consulate should have been given more protection in the first place theq request should have been granted, rather than worry how it looked politically. they should have gotten the protection they deserved. the british consulate pulled out because they had enough concern about the lives and the safety of their people that they

weren't worried about how it would look. >> greta: is this a blundener foreign policy or a coverup -- >> i can't tell. i mean, the white house has fumbled this so much, it's very, very hard to tell. the only thing that's worse is the inability of the media -- september for maybe fox, cbs and maybe cnn to the extent that they got that diary, nobody's covering this. >> greta: why? >> because they protect him. he's the prince -- >> greta: the people want -- i mean the people are hungry for the news. there is some competition i. oh, come on. the ability to -- to rationalize for him is unbelievable -- >> greta: even in a coverup. >> i don't think they buy t. i think they -- they are so desperate to make sure he gets re-elected. they think right-wing forces are driving the story. if there was a republican president, we would be talking about impeachment. the coverup is palpable. it's clear. it took me about -- maybe

because i was a prosecutor, it took me about two days to figure out they were covering this up. this was clearly a terrorist attack from the moment it happened. if you knew the prior history of the consulate, you don't need the email telling you the group that was claiming credit for it. you had to know there was this was a terror attack. >> greta: nice to see you. today, secretary of state, hillary clinton defending the administration's response to the libya attack. >> the independent accountability review board is already hard at work, looking at everything. not cherry-picking one story here or one document there. but looking at everything, which i highly recommend, as the appropriate approach to something as complex as... an attack like this. >> former secretary of state condoleezza rice once held secretary clinton's job. thank you for joining us. tell me, what do you think of the state department's response to libya? >> well, clearly, i want to

start by saying that the emails show that our diplomats are in very dangerous places. it reminds us that people like ambassador chris stevens give the last full measure to their country. that's the first thing to remember. the accountability review board to which the secretary responded will indeed take a look at whether or not the preparations were adequate, given what was known about the intelligence picture. i myself have received reports from accountability review boards and that will be the purpose of those investigations. there is then the issue of what intelligence agency, people on the ground, did or didn't know about what was going on. and there, i know that chairman mike rogers wants the intelligence committees to look at questions of what the intelligence committee knew, what the community knew, how

they communicated that to policy makers and that's the appropriate venue for that discussion. >> greta: if there is a problem at a u.s. embassy, a general course. i realize each incident is unique. but if there is a problem in an embassy, what happens first? is there a protocol that the embassy notifies the state department? what's the process? >> well, clearly, there is notification to the state department through the operations center that there is trouble at an embassy and then the separation operations center will try to ascertain what is happening, will notify the relevant officials, so there is a protocol. but when things are unfolding very, very quickly. it is not always easy to know what is really going on on the ground. and to my mind, the really important questions here are about how information was

collected, did the various agencies really coordinate and share intelligence in the way that we had hoped, with the reforms that were made after 9/11? so there is a big picture to be examined here. but we don't have all of the pieces. and i think it's easy to try to jump to conclusions about what might have happened here. it's probably better to let the relevant bodies do their work. >> greta: if there is an attack on an embassy, it says it goes to relevant officials that the operations center would make that determination. that would be, if there is something violent, would you expect that to go to the secretary of state and beyond? >> well, i think that it would but under the circumstances, i can't tell you where the information was passed, probably with an attack of this magnitude twould have gotten to the viest officials. but the problem is, when there is a fog of war like this, there are a lot of competing stories

coming in. there is a lot of competing information coming in. it takes a little while to know precisely what has happened. >> greta: if there were a problem here at fox, i have been here 11 years, the first thing i would want to know is look at the logs or protocols or something unique to fox. if you are investigating this and you wanted to know what happened, would you look at an email trail? what is internal to our diplomatic procedures that you would look for? >> well, i think that the accountability review board will want to look at what the embassy was communicating about what was happening on the ground and what was happening in response to what was going on on the ground. not just what happened that particular night. but what signs there were of trouble earlier on, what does did the intelligence pbl picture look like? you can't simply keep your diplomats in a bunker. they have to get out and do their work. but you want to make sure that you are taking the right safety

precautions for them as limp that's the kind of work that the accountability review board will do. there are protocols in place. i have no reason to believe they weren't followed. but it is want easy to know exactly what's going on, as it's unfolding. >> greta: one more question on libya. i am curious because i have no sense -- for instance, how many -- how many emails would you expect in a given day from a consulate in a troubled area? just for a universe. i realize that nothing is perfectly anticipated. 10, 100? how big is the traffic? >> well, it would be a lot not just email, but cables from the embassies and maybe phone calls from the embassies. i am quite certain, when circumstances like this are unfolding there is a lot of information flowing in very rapidly from multiple sources. i want to emphasize again, greta, one of the problems we

had with 9/11 and that we sought to fix was the coordination between all of the various agencies that would have been reporting on something like this, the intelligence agencies in washington, the intelligence agencies on the ground, what was being reported from the tripply embassy, as oppose to the consulate under attack. we worked very hard to make sure all of this was shared and put together in a way that policy makers could use. it i think chairman rogers will want to look at whether or not this is working. and we have to make sure that it's working but that's the question on my mind. how good was the coordination and did all the changes we made after 9/11 really serve us well? >> greta: you have been on the campaign trail. i am curious, there appears to be a gender gap. the women vote. do you have a thought about the gender gap? >> well, the polls certainly show a gender gap. but i will tell you, when i go

out and i talk to women across the country, they are impressed with what governor romney and congressman are intaig the issues that matter to them, as much as they matter to all citizens. people wantions so many women are unemployed. women are small business owner, they want an environment when small businesses won't be over taxed and have mandates they can't fulfill because they want to hire people. women are, of course, mothers of those college students who are unemployed and not finding jobs, despite their brand-new college degree. so women are concerned about the very issues that mitt romney and paul ryan are speaking. now to the degree that there is concern about what is broadly called the social issues, i would like to say to people that

i am not always in agreement with everything that's written in the republican platform about social issues. but i know that mitt romney and paul ryan will respect the views of those who may disagree on these issues. they will take that into account. i am quite comfortable that those who talk about a war on women are not just engaging in hyperbole, i think it's far worse than that. it is cob deming people who are reasonable and will take into account the views with whom they don't agree. >> greta: always nice to see you. hope to see you soon. >> take care. >> greta: thank you. a slugfest to win the swing states. everybody's talking about ohio. but another state is the real gold. brit hume is here to talk about that, that's next. also, donald trump, he wants to do a deal with president obama. what is trump offering the

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electoral votes of all the swing states. tonight, florida has good news for governor romney. according to the real clear politics average, governor romney leads 48-46% in florida. brit hume is here. i suppose the bad news, it is within the margin of error. >> 1.8 percentage points, that's a small lead. i think it's a state he expects to win. but it's still very much in play. >> greta: how can he expect to win when he looks at another state where he doesn't expect to win? how can he "expect" to win? >> certain things about the state of florida. it is easier for him than a rust-belt state like ohio. ohio and some of the other midwestern states have lower unemployment rates. florida has a higher unemployment rate. the senior citizens, which is a good group for romney, across the country, feel the impact of the low interest rates in a way that is bad for them.

most of those people own their homes and they are not buying homes. they don't benefit from low interest rates, but if they have fixed incomes and their investment's in bonds, the return is very low. so their income's squeezed. that's another reason why florida's a state with mitt romney with an advantage. >> greta: that's a must win. >> oh, yeah, if he doesn't win florida, he is not going to win a lot of other places -- he has to have florida. >> greta: ohio consumes everybody. tonight, the poll numbers show -- at least one poll shows him behind president obama by more than he has been behind. >> down 5 and a poll from time magazine, a polling firm with which i am not familiar. i don't know -- i don't know how reliable that poll is, but the important thing, there is not a single poll in the state of ohio that shows mitt romney ahead. not one. >> greta: he has his work cut out for him. >> he does. >> greta: in an interview tonight, the president says this

to brian williams. what we have right now is a lead that we have maintained throughout this campaign. is he looking at different polls? >> no. what he is saying that he has had a lead -- >> greta: they have maintained -- >> well, i think, if you ask the obama people about the polling, they will tell you they pay no attention to national polls, this is a state-by-state race, which is correct. it is. they are ahead in enough states that if they win them all, they win the presidency, fairly comfortably. that's what they mean when they say they are ahead. they are not ahead in national polls. but those are not -- in the end -- they tell you something, but that's not how the race is decided. it is not a national plebosite. >> greta: but the issue about libya, which largely other media organizations are not paying attention. i am curious about whether libya will play a significant role.

>> to the extent it's consumed the news coverage -- not in a good way -- it's perceived as a vulnerability of our installations around the world to terrorist attack, it fights the argument that the president has been making that terrorist organizations in particular, al qaeda, are in retreat now and are fading. it appears that al qaeda may have played a role in this and perhaps an important role. if that's the case, of course, that's too bad for him. however, it is also the case that the news media have not picked up on this story and uncovered it as aggressively -- >> greta: why? is it because they are in the tank for president obama? >> i can tell fruyears of being in a mainstream news organization, these stories really do look different to the journalists in those organizations when it is a candidate that they are more or less sympathetic too to. they are not thinking, how can we help this president or hurt this republican? what what they are thinking, this doesn't seem like that big a deal to them.

>> greta: i think it takes a lot of work to dig through the emails. i think it takes a lot of time on the phone -- frankly, i don't think people -- a lot of journalists are putting in the time. >> you put in the time if you -- if you felt like this was really a great big story and one that really told you something... about somebody you really wanted to see a story told on. they don't feel that way about this president. this president enjoys a style of coverage that i would describe as forgiving. >> greta: brit, always nice to see you. >> thank you. >> greta: up next, donald trump. he wants to play let's make a deal with president obama. the donald will tell you what he is offering the president, that's next. my doctor told me calcium

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>> greta: donald trump is very famous for making deals. tonight, he knows to make a multi--yillion-dollar deal with obam a. what are the stakes? donald, nice to talk to you. >> hello, greta. >> greta: donald, you have gotten rve's attention. tell me, exactly, what is the challenge that you have pose to the president of the united states? >> lfirst of all, the response has been unbelievable, beyond what anyone would have ever thought, as you probably know, and as you said. and it has been incredible, the president is probably the least transparent president in the history of the country. and i am hearing this, not as a negative thing, but i am viewing this as a positive, positive even for the president. people want to see what is going on with the president. and i offered $5 million,

payable immediately to a charity of his choice -- now, that's his charity, if he releases his college records and applications. and passport records and applications. now, if you look into the past, greta, john mccain released the bushes released, clinton released... almost all that i know of, have released information and informs that i am talking -- informs that i am -- information that i am talking b. president obama hasn't released. i hope he takes me up on it. it would be a great thing for charity. truthfully, i think it would be a great thing for him and certainly for the country because there is so much anger about this issue. it is a hidden issue. but there is tremendous anger. >> greta: let me tell you how i think you boxed yourself in on this one and why. first of all, $5 million, that's chump chain -- change to you. you are a very rich man. if i were the president of the united states, i would say, you know what, donald, let's talk real money, you put $100 million

on the table and i doll it. then i would see if you bellied up to the table and did it or not. if you didn't, i would say, see, that's a stunt by donald trump. >> well, let's see what happens. let's see what happens. i happen to think that -- if he released his records, it would be great for charity. if he released his records, it might very well be good for him and it might be very bad for him -- >> greta: would you gig higher? >> i would certainly consider it, absolutely. >> greta: $20 million? >> greta, i am not negotiating with you. stop playing games. it's so ridiculous -- >> greta: but you are serious about this -- >> i have -- [overlapping dialogue] -- greta, i wish we had a president who could negotiate like you, our country would be doing a lot better. i have offered a lot of money. it goes to charity. it's a charity of his choice. it's something he should do. i hope he does it. it will be very interesting to see. >> greta: what do you want? what are you looking for that you think is worth $5 million to

charity? you haven't not offer on the table for governor romney, so i figure you must be thinking there is something that is valuable? >> no, i think that people want to see. you have no idea. i get millions and millions of hits on just please stay with this. i walk down the street, people love me over it. i went to north carolina, made a speech. the most important thing was the issue of location, place of birth, et cetera, i went to liberty university, made a speech, incredible school. i mean, they loved this -- >> greta: what doue. >> greta -- this is a very important issue! this is a very important issue! >> greta: are you not satisfied with the presentation of the documents of his birth? are we going back to that? >> well, i am not sure about it. other people are not sure. all have you to do is pick up the newspapers and you will see. many people have serious questions about what he presented. there were many, many people. so i am -- >> greta: excuse me -- limited

[overlapping dialogue] -- >> greta: there are two questions. i thought the birth issue was established that you were satisfied. you got the president to produce his long-firm birth certificate i. i did -- greta, nobody else was able to do that. >> greta: right. i thought that you were satisfied. he met the constitutional requirements. now you want these other records. i am trying to figure out why, it is like you want to see what kind of student he was -- >> -- >> why are you speaking for me! i never said i was satisfied. i never told you you were satisfied? >> greta: oh, i didn't know that. >> excuse me! who is satisfy? pick up the newspapers, there are many, many people, tremendous numbers of people that are not satisfied. there is tremendous skepticism as to what he presented. unbelievable skepticism -- >> greta: i stand corrected. i apologize. i apologize for getting it wrong. i am satisfied. i made a mistake -- >> are you satisfied?! >> greta: yeah. >> i am very surprised at you. i am very surprised at you.

i don't know how you can be satisfied. but if you are satisfied, you are less skeptical than me -- i am in the real estate business in new york, get area. i have seen everything. >> greta: all right. let me ask you a question, in these college records, is there something else that you are looking for besides the issue about birth? >> greta, let's see what it says! you are talking about a tremendous amount of money for charity. let's see what it says. who knows! i mean, if you ask me, what do we know? you don't know anything, greta. for you to say -- i really am surprised at you, you don't know anything. for you to say that you are satisfied is really shocking it me, to be honest with you. when you ask me, what do you think? let's find out. i can't tell what you i think because i don't know. i haven't seen the papers -- donald. let me -- this is the thing -- this is what i don't get. there was a newspaper report that this child had been born at the time the president had been born, in hawaii --

>> yes. >> greta: and there would have been no way to create that -- >> you are wrong! >> greta: i'm wrong? >> it's a well-known fact, nord get certain benefits of the united states, many people would put out those reports and put them out when people aren't even in the country. that happened many, many times. if you read the fact and you understood this, you wouldn't even be asking that question. >> greta: all right. >> by putting it out, they would get the benefits of being a u.s. citizen and get some of the benefits and all of the benefits of being a united states citizens. so -- i am surprised you said that, too, greta. >> greta: okay. what is your suspicion, are you fishing? or do you have -- >> i don't want to say anything about spus suspicion. i would like to have him be transparent. we know nothing about our president. i mean, he writes a book, and

the cover says born in kenya, raised in indonesia. if that's the case, that's fine, except you are not allowed to be the president. minor detail. so i have no -- hey, i would be the happiest person in the world if he would give his records and if his records would be beautiful because it would take all doubt away. as i said today and i think you probably heard me that i would be totally satisfied if he did that. totally satisfied. and if i am satisfied, everybody would be satisfied because i'm pretty skeptical about everything and many things in life. but i would be extremely satisfied and the biggest beneficiary would be him and a charity. >> greta: what is your thought about florria allred. she went to court to seek documents unsealed. apparently governor romney was a witness in a divorce 10 or 15 years ago. >> i know gloria allred, she's a terrible lawyer. she is a third rate strictly.

anything she's involved with doesn't usually work out well. she represented somebody with me, it was a joke the way she represented the person and it was quite sad. so, you know, anything gloria allred said, i would take with a grain of salt. >> greta: always nice to see you, even when we lock horns. >> thank you. >> greta: coming up, 13 days to go in the obama administration, trying to deflect criticism over libbia. could the controversy impact the election? our political panel is next. 2 minutes, vice-president biden said he has found a way to prevent his famous ga. what is it? and is there a sign that it's not working? that's in two minutes. ♪ ♪

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approaching the coast of florida. tropical storm conditions are possible by friday morning. sandy's expected to reach eastern cuba overnight. the storm's already pounded jamaica with high winds and heavy rains. there are reports of widespread power outages, blamed for one death in jamaic -- jamaica and another haiti. close to 30 people have died in recent violence in haiti. some victims said to be women and children. the cease-fire will happen during a four-day muslim holiday, asserting on -- starting on friday. the syrian government denies it has made a decision on the seats fire. back to "on the record" with greta. i'm ainsley earhardt. thanks for watching. >> the former head of the cia bin laden unit expressing utter disbelief to the administration's response to the libya attack. >> question number 1 is who with

good conscience could sit and watch 7 hours of videos of americans being attacked and no one going to their rescue? >> joining us, our political panel. now -- that's not a good sign that you are celebrating your 25th wedding anniversary with us with the four of us. you get the first question... the libya impact on the story on the election? >> yeah. i don't know. because it's so close to the election, at this point, the administration is saying, hey, look, this was raw intelligence. it was not a final report. the big problem i think is less in what you see in those three or four emails, but the whole question of why there was this security lapse and why there was no plan to sort of come and help these people?

>> greta: i have a question to you, steven, if the president of the united states, if people are suspicious, it's his fault because he should be out there telling us what happened. should he address the nation, as the leader and speak to the american people and say, this is what we know? >> sure, or do an interview that's going to be about libya. that apparently hasn't happened. i don't think we are likely to see it any time soon. i guess it will be interesting to see if this has a big impact on the election. i get the sense that most reporters covering this, covering the campaign, think of the libya stuff as a distraction. it is not working its way into many of the campaign stories. this was up, you know, fox reported this last night at 10:00, new york times didn't have a stor it today until -- story on it until almost dinner time. this is not driving most of the media narrative. >> but when mitt romney was asked about it, he immediately moved to another topic in the debate as well -- >> i get that. and for romney and the campaign reporters, one way for him to make sure that this is discussed

is for him to talk about it. if i were giving him campaign advice, i would have him talk about it. but that doesn't exculpate the media from doing its job. >> i think that for romney, it is awkward a couple of days later, but there are new revelations and things to discuss. he could certainly pick it up in the last week and-a-half of the cam pape and hit it hard. it is a very tough story for the administration. it is a very bad one because, as you heard from condie rice and others, who are talking to the press about the initial assessment, they are almost always wrong. -- >> greta: but they made up the tape -- [overlapping dialogue] >> let's go back. if those initial assessments are wrong, once they knew within 72 hours that they had all of this conflicting data and conflicting reports, why don't you come to the american people and say, we just don't have a seamless story

for you, we have so many reports coming in -- >> greta: why -- >> we don't know what happened. that's something they could have said and they didn't. >> greta: why don't they even now -- [overlapping dialogue] >> i think that's the big failing. that's why it looks like a coverup because they didn't say, we are looking at everything, we have conflicking reports. there is a lot of confusion. we are really trying to get to the bottom of it. maybe they thought that was weakness. but it really in the end -- >> but it also is the case that they can't reconcile some of these statements that they made. they are directly contradictory. look at jay carney on september 18, we have concrete evidence, there is no evident to suggest this was premedicated. we know that there was significant evidence. >> greta: clean slate. let's just have the truth instead of the stories. >> that's true. i don't think that's going to happen. >> greta: he is making a repeat performance in the presidential

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>> greta: clint eastwood getting a new role in the republican campaign, after the famous empty chair speech. he is back, starring in a new ad

for governor romney, put out by the super pack, american crossrooteds. >> the last few years, america's been knocked down, 23 million people can't find full-time work. we borrow $4 billion every single day, much of it from china. someone doesn't get the job done, have you to hold them accountable. obama's second term would be a rerun. we need someone who can turn it around fast and that man's mitt romney. >> greta: we are back to the political panel. >> you will notice, this time they madeh sure he had a script. the ad reminds me of the really effective ad he did for chrysler at the super bowl a few years back. i think it is meant to evoke that ad. >> i think that's true. it's a good ad. it helps to have somebody in a knop traditional way, make this case. people who weren't watching the republican convention. they probably read about t. but

this is much manufacture direct in 30 seconds, an indictment of the president, and it probably speaks to people who are not political junkies, watching this every night. >> greta: i think it's a bargain because it's a free showing. they paid to put it on the air burks we give him free showings because it's clint eastwood. >> i think a lot more people will see this ad, many will see it that did know watch the convention and don't really know how much he flopped in his appearance there. i think any time someone like that lends their persona and their perfect voice, it helps and it's effective. but he is -- there is a sense of urgency that we are running out of time, four more years and we will -- it will destroy us. i mean, it's more ominous that most of the ads you are hearing from someone people look up to. i think it is effective for those reasons and that will create, you know, more buzz, even if people didn't watch the tv coverage. >> greta: ohio.

steve, you have been to ohio? >> yeah. anybody know what's going to happen in ohio? i have heard from the republicans that the interm numbers are showing it's very close and we have seen a tightening. >> greta: there is a bad poll for governor romney tonight. not a bad one. but it got worse. >> he hasn't been in the lead. he has been tied. but he hasn't been in the lead, in polls, dating back to last spring. there may be sampling issues and those problems, but until he is going to leave, republicans won't be yelling and screaming about ohio. >> i think ohio is a pretty big lift. it's obviously, you know, close, it's do-able. >> greta: how about the early voting? >> you know, the early voting -- because i looked at a lot of statistics, it looks like the democrats have a fairly big lead in this, overall. but they almost always do. so... i think, you know, johner ker hebig early-voting leads.

>> greta: he didn't win. he didn't win the presidency, either. all right. well... 13 more days? >> 13 more days. then we can sleep. >> until the recount. >> greta: all right. big your state for the recount. panel, thank you. coming up, jay leno macks president obama. is it funny? that's next. with the spark miles card from capital one,

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>> greta: 11:00 is almost here, flash studio lights, it's time for last call. the debate, well, they may be over but jokes still going strong. here is jay leno. >> one of president obama's winning points was about how sanctions against iran are crippling their economy. if anyone knows how to cripple an economy it's president obama. >> greta: that is your last call. lights are blinking and we are closing down shop. thank you for being with us tonight. make sure you go to gretawire.com. i've got a lot of