everyone. >> i'll be back here from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m. and fox friends first at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. shannon bream is up next. >> osama bin laden may be dead, but we have al qaeda and a lot of al qaeda wanna-bes. >> shannon: formir vice-president dick cheney defends the national security agency and says the surveillance program he helped create after 9/11 los angeles saved lives and stopped terrorist attacks. as the u.s. looks at the regional power positioning themselves. we will looking to at a senate select committee member. texas grfer rick peritries to tempt new york companies to move to the lone-star state with the promise of less government regulation. he is live and takes your twitter questions. i'm shannon bream. happy farths day.

america's news headquarters live from the nation's capitol starts right now. >> eric: on the heels of the decision to send arms for rebels. fears grow that syria's bloody civil war will widen. g-8 leaders get ready to talk tomorrow. >> reporter: the cia is going to give small arms to the rebels fighting the president assad. but some lawmakers here don't think that's enough. lindy graham explain yes he thinks president obama must enforce a no-fly zone over syria. >> last year, assad was isolated. he had very few friends, he was hanging by a thread. this year, he's entrenched with

hezbollah, iran and russia, stronger than are ever. i think our goal should be to balance the military power and provide small arms won't do it. so we need to create a no-fly zone to neutralize the assad air power. >> reporter: the pentagon saysy they will leave planes and patriot missiles in nearby jordan and the white house says help for the syrian rebels will increase. but the chief of staff says it will increase very cautiously. >> we have to be very discerning about what is in our interests and what the outcome -- what outcome is best for us and the prices we are willing to pay to get to that place. we have rushed to war in this region in the past. we are want going to do it here. >> reporter: the egyptian president morsi says he's cutting off diplomatic tie wses syria, as promise that russia has not made. russia has been a reliable of syria throughout the civil war.

tomorrow night at the g-8, president obama is scheduled to sit down with the president, vladimir putin. >> shannon: should be very interesting. we want to know where you stand on the civil war in syria. should the u.s. arm the syrian rebels? and if you think so, with what? tweet us your responses. fresh violence in more than 2 weeks of protests in istanbul, turkey. riot police are cracking down on thousands of anti-government protesters, spraying them with tear gas and water cannons, the police were trying to prevent the protesters from regrouping. pro-government supporters gathered in droves for a campaign-style rally with the country's prime minister. former vice-president dick cheney is defending the surveillance program started under the bush/cheney administration, now that the obama administration has come under fire for the same programs. in an exclusive interview on

"fox news sunday," cheney insisted the programs must remain confidential. >> i understand people's concern about it, but an intelligence program that reveals sources and methods is significantly less effective because you are not just revealing it to the american people, you are revealing it to the targets, the adversary, the enemy. there are reasons for secrecy. we set the program up in the weeks after '01, we briefed certain members of congress, the ranking members of the intelligence committees in the office, in the west wing. we would give them the layout of what we were doing and learning from it. >> reporter: what right do you think the american people have to know what the government is doing? >> well, they get to vote for senior officials like the president of the united states, or like the senior officials in congress. and you have to have some trust in them. you don't go out and -- when you

find an intelligence operation, trying to collect data and in effect, tell the enemy what you are doing. it just -- it would be a dumb idea. it makes the program significantly less effective and reveals to our adversaries crucial information that they shouldn't have. >> shannon: i sat down with criss wallace to get his take on the one on one he had with the former vice-president. chris, it is the question of the hour and one you put to vice-president dick chainee former vice-president. what do you think of edward snowden? >> reporter: yeah. he gave a pretty strong answer. he said he's a traitor. he said this he has real questions whether a 29-year-old -- yes he was an i.t. guy, but he could have gotten all of that informs without inside help and the chinese, the fact that he went to hong kong as the vice-president, former vice-president said, you think, you think of civil liberties and personal freedom, china is not

at the top of the list. he wondered before -- was he always in cahoots with the chinese? will he try to buy asylum for the chinese? and we need to be fortionz -- forceful with the chinese. but no, he did not think much of edward snowden, but he did think that the leaks were really damaging and hurt the programs from after 9/11 that he feels have been essential. >> shannon: much of the framework was put into place under the bush/cheney administration, what does he think about how they are being used now? >> reporter: he applauds the president. if you watch the interview -- it's just fascinating what he has to say on benghazi and the irs and the reporters and a bunch of things -- he is quite critical of the president. he applauds the fact that he has continued the programs and recognizes their value in -- in break up and preventing terror plots. on the other hand, i think he was bemused at the idea that this president, who used to talk

about that it's a false choice between libertiy and security, found well, you know, sometimes you do have to make some choice when is he get into the oval office. >> shannon: he doesn't mince words. >> not on anything. >> shannon: happy fathers day, chris. >> reporter: thank you. >> shannon: karch the entire entire right here right after america's news headquarters. for its part, the white house is saying that the access edward snowden claims he had is being overblown. white house chief of staff told cbs, he has doubts about the claims snowden is making. >> i will tell you what i worry a little bit about -- i worry a little bit about some of the hyperbole that is being thrown around that would cast a pall on the intelligence community and the very dedicated and patriotic people who go to work every day.

>> shannon: he doubts that snowden could have accessed president obama personal accounts and insists that he recognizes the obligation to keep people safe and also to protect the u.s. constitution. another fan of the constitution, texas governor rick perry says government regulations are crushing entrepreneurs. so he wants new yorkers and others to know that his state is open for business. >> texas, land of opportunity. home of creative renegades. >> where dreams become reality. >> tex as is calling. your opportunity awaits. >> shannon: new york is just one of the latest areas in the perry cross hairs with a $1 million tv ad campaign. others were not so happy when they were targeted. governor perry is live on america's news headquarters. great to see you. >> good to be with you. thank you. >> shannon: let me ask you, you say you are open for business. a lot of state, people say they are crushed under taxes. you say you are take taking off

the restrictions. >> we have been doing that for about a decade. i i think it's a good blueprint, test, a good experiment, if you will with a low tax burden and regulatory climate that's fair. a legal system that doesn't allow for over-suing. we passed the most sweeping tort reform. have you a workforce available, no matter what your environments are. it's been in place now long enough, i think it's totally and absolutely... unmistakeable that that type of model works. it allows for jobs to be created. and if -- forbes and wall street journal, c-nbc, a list of various and sundry business groups, texas has president best business climb in the world. y over the last 10 years, 30% of

all the jocks created in america were in texas. that's a model that will not only work in the state of texas, it will work in any state. we compete against each other. that's what thanksgiving about. this is the 50 laboratories of innovation, competing for the jobs to keep america at the front of the race, if you will for innovation, et cetera. so we believe in competition. so just like the miami heat is coming into san antonio tonight to try to take a victory, i am going to be in new york and connecticut over the next few days, trying to explain to people why they should come to texas to expand and relocate, et cetera. >> shannon: speaking of connecticut, a few people say to me, they know the governor is going to be in connecticut. any chance he is going to try to woo the gun manufacturers from connecticut to texas? >> we are looking at across the board -- pharmaceutical, financial, obviously the weapons industry. it is not a particularly

friendly climate in connecticut or new york for the weapons industry. remmington is in new york. obviously, colt and stag arms. some of those really great, old companies -- we want to be in a place that is comfortable that wants them. plus, they get to keep more. what they earn. so it's a win/win from my perspective, as you relocate to a climate that is really supportive of what you are doing, whether it's the pharmaceutical or the financial industry or the weapons manufacturing industry. texas is a very friendly state on the business side. >> shannon: all right. another twitter question from dana, who is lone wolf 23. she says president obama promised to aid west texas, fema denied that aid. what is your response that you asked now that -- you thought you were going to get things from the administration and the assessment from fema is no -- after the explosion. >> it's really trowblghting for us.

you know, whether it was oakec city, the world trade center, there have been some very clear indications from washington, d.c. through the years that even though it wasn't a natural disaster, this is a man-made disaster, fema comes in and does their part. the more troubling part for me that was we had our local official, state officials working with fema and there was never any indication of a problem from the standpoint of this being clearly a disaster that deserved federal response. and the president stood in waco, texas, as a memorial for those who were lost in the explosion. he made the commitment he said, we are going on stand with you. we are going to make sure that you have the support that you need. i am going to take the president at his word. hopefully, when he finds out that fema -- for whatever reason, decided not to send that request forward, that he will interscpreen do the right thing. >> shannon: something that will

not surprise you-- the most popular question across the board. michael mays asked, are you going to run for thees about in 2016? >> we have work to do back in texas. that's a long time until 2016. i am greatly appreciative of his interest. special session is within a couple of days of being finished in texas. i will make a decision about whether i am going to run for re-election in 2016 -- it will -- it will still be out in front of us and we will make an appropriate decision at the appropriate time. >> shannon: i wanted to ask but the new law -- the merry christmas law, dealing with religious freedom in texas. >> it's fascinating that you valid to pass a piece of legislation to give comfort and frankly to protect people from doing what we have done for -- decades in the state of texas, which is to say, happy chanukah or merry christmas -- to protect

religious freedom. why we had to do that is, really kind of reflective of where the political correctness has gone in the country. our legislator felt it was important to protect the young children who wanted to have a christmas tree, who wanted to be ornaments on and a nativity scene, whatever it might be. that is now allowed in the state of texas. >> shannon: governor perry, safe travels as you head further north and keep in touch. thanks. are we headed for war? soon after the u.s. announced it is sending lethal aid to syrian rebels, iran is pledging 4,000 troops to help president assad. how does that change the world stage? and former vice-presidential candidate, sarah palin weighs in on the syrian conflict, making it clear that she and the former runningmate don't see eye to eye on this one. >> both sides are screaming over

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>> well, chief, in these radical islamic countries are not even respecting basic human rights, when both sides are slaughtering each other, as they scream over an arbitrary red line. i say, until we have somethingo someone who know what is they are doing, i say, let allah sort it out. >> that's sarah palin criticizing the obama administration decision to fly weapons to the civil war in syria. it's a stark contrast to her

former presidential runningmate, senator john mccain. as an aside, governor palin will be on fox and for $1,400s tomorrow morning. she will have quality time right there on the couch. there are reports today that iran plans to send 4,000 revolutionary guard troops to syria to fight along president osaud's forces that. decisions was made before the presidential election and before president obama's decision to send lethal aid to syrian rebels. joining us for perspective, senator dan coates, from indian a. thank you for coming in today. on friday, the administration put out an announcement that we now believe here in the u.s. that clemical weapons have been used by assad against his people. what do you know about that? how confident are nuthat assessment? >> i am very confident in that

assessment. but i think this could have been determined weeks ago. we seem to be reacting, rather than proacting to situations, the british, the french, and the israelis, others have pretty clear evidence of use of chemical weapons some time ago. so there has been a dlai. it seems like we are behind the curve here, including, potentially, the latest statement, small arms -- i am not sure is going togoing to do the job. no one is advocating boots on the ground. but america has not taken a lead, deciding what to do about assad. we said it's unacceptable. but he's prevailing. is this too late, too little? it looks like it -- given what they have said so far. >> shannon: the question about what is being sent to the rebels there. you mentioned small arms. the white house has been pushed on what they are willing to provide, whether it will be enough to make a difference at this point. >> small arms don't stop tanks, when the syrians are using or air attacks, which the syrians

have been using. you need anti-tank and anti-stinger missile type of anti-aircraft if you are going to given the rebel embassy kind of chance of leveling out the playing field here. >> shannon: how do we vet who the rebels are, who we will be willing to provide -- had we are calling lethal aid -- how does that vetting process happen? >> it's very important that it does happen. we do have ways through other intelligence services and other contacts there that we have with the groups because we absolutely have to make sure that we don't see the weapons falling in the wrong hands and we do know there are elements of the rebels that are coming from the wrong sources. so we have to be very, very careful in who we give these to and how we oversee the delivery of arms because we don't want them turned against us or israel or other allies in the region. >> shannon: there seems to be a weary business to get involved

in any way in syria or anywhere else. we put this out as our twitter question ande have the vast majority saying, no, we can't properly vet the people. we have problems at home, why is this the right time for the u.s. to get involved in something like this? >> that's a legitimate question. to the extent, how are we going to get involved and how much are we going to do? clearly it is in our national interest to see assad go. but it's also in our national interest not to see the country taken over and end up in a sectarian war fight as we have seen now in iraq. it's a mess in the middle-east. we are not going to be able to solve this problem. we can assist, we can work with the arab league and our european leaders to try to address these things that directly impact us. but to think that we are going to put and engage in another war in the middle-east right now is not feasible and shouldn't be done.

>> one of your colleagues has been very outspoken on this particular issue. he made comments this past week, saying basically, hezbollah is all in, russia, iran, there are a lot of competing interests that are fully invested. russia is pushing back on chemical weapons. they are saying they are not convinced. what role do they play as we head into the g-8, which discussions should we be having about their involvem and iran's involvement? >> we should be having the discussions, but i don't think russia's coming down with the truth. it is clear they are coming down on the side of assad. the talk and the diplomacy, i don't suspect for a minute that's going to solve the problem. we have to stand on the side of democracy and stand on the side of not supporting a murderous regime which has killed over 100,000 people. >> it's drag the on way longer

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>> shannon: in sm lawmakers are blasting president obama's decision of arming syrian rebels as too little too late. >> some republicans say the u.s. needs to do more to end the two-year war in syria. senator lindsay graham says the u.s. should invoke the no-fly zone. the white house says help for the rebels will increase. north yeah says it wants high-level talks with the u.s. been the pyongyang top governing board body will like negotiations. george zimmerman's defense attorney says he thinks the jury could be seated by the middle of this week. attorneys need to find 6 jurors and 4 alternates who will decide if zimmerman is guilty of murder in the fatal shooting of an

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are you dhaferl privacy versus security is being adequately balanced? >> i am not comfortable until i learn more and the american public needs more. there is a need for fuller, fuller disclosure. this debate is very healthy. throughout our history, we have tried to strick a balance between the needs of security, they are more dire and pressing than ever and our civil rights and our right to privacy. so far, i am not satisfied that we have struck the right balance. for example, the rulings and orders and opinions of the special court that was established under the foreign intelligence security act stril not been made public, even to members of the united states congress and senate on the armed services committee. we have not been fully informed as to the basis for those orders by this supposed watchdog court, supposed to issue warrants. i think there is a need for greater disclosure and fuller

debate and the narrowing of laws. >> shannon: i know there is a bipartisan measure that has been introduced in the senate that would push for the court to reveal more of those opinions. is that something you signed onto or would sign onto? >> i supported that measure and the foreign intelligence security act was re-authorized in last year. i am supporting it again now. i am a leading co-sponsor. as a prosecutor for 4 1/2 years as united states attorney and as attorney general, i believe that warrants are necessary to do certain kinds of surveillance and seek and attain certain kinds of records. i think the court was established, not only so that it would be watchful about the government's activities and accountable. there is no way to hold it accountable if the activities are not disclosed in any way, shape or form. we can delete and retract

sensitive information in those rulings and opinions and still make them public. and so very definitely, yes, i support that measure. >> shannon: all right. i want to turn to the issue of gun control. it wasn't successfully passed arve much debate in the senate earlier this year. there are a number of amendments and a number of democrats who did not get on board with the tougher proposals. where do you see that going, moving forward? >> shannon, excellent question, especially appropriate on this six-month anniversary of sandy hook, which we commemorated, literally the day before yesterday, six months since 20 beautiful children and 6 great educators were gunned down -- massacred in a hail of bullets by a deranged individual, and yet, on april 17, the senate in effect, said no to america. but i don't believe america will take no for an answer. the majority leader has committed to bringing the bill back, when we have siblght votes. we had 55 supporters, which

without the senate's arcane anti-democratic rules, would be enough in a democratic institution to pass a measure. it will be brought back. background checks will be on the floor of the senate again, along with very likely, i hope, a bill to ban illegal trafficking, straw purchases, as well as excess capacity magazines. i believe we can make america safer and better, through these measures, which in no way eye want to stress, shannon -- no way take away anybody's second-amendment rights or guns if they are law-abiding people. let's take guns out of the hands of the people who are dispairjs criminals who shouldn't have them so we prevent another sandy hook. i believe that bill will be brought back by the end of the year. >> shannon: how will you convince your democratic colleague who is didn't seem convinced the last time around? >> essentially, shannon, by

arguing to them, as we must do to the american people, that it's the right thing to do, that it involves no abridgement of second-amendment rights and no practical impact on law-abiding gun owners and appealing to their constituents. 90% of the american people and the vast majority of people in their states support these commonsense, reasonable measures that very simply protect lawful gun owners as well as others. nra members have said to me, they believe background checks are appropriate. so i think mobilizing and organizing is the key so we stop the special interests from holding sway, as they have in the past. just one last point. when you think back on it -- and i have reflected a lot over the last 48 hours -- i have been all around the state of connecticut at the openings of playgrounds and ceremonies, commemorating this six-month anniversary, a

vigil on friday night. six months ago, this issue -- the whole topic of gun violence prevention was thought to be politicalally untouchable. i think we have come a long way since then and we will be making more progress as the memories and the momentum are sustained. >> shannon: senator, we will continue to stay tuned as the debate continues on. sir, thamps for your time today. >> thank you. >> shannon: was the fbi really unaware that the boston bomber was co-founded by a man in jail for aiding terrorists? we will talk to a member of the house judiciary committee who has very tough questions about roburt mueller about what the agency knew and when. >> rhyme guy miller from afghanistan. i would like to wish my father a happy fathers day. a happy birthday and congratulations on 40 1/2 years

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>> shannon: that was the texas governor, talking to robert myeler about the events investigating the boston bombing and the practices of the irs and the nsa. congressman, thank you for coming in today, happy fathers day. we have a lotted of material to cover, so i want to start there with the question about whether or not the fbi was investigating this mosque, what they newknew about the tsarnaev brothers. director mueller said he -- he said they had been there. >> it's consistent with had he testified to before, before our committee, when he said we have an outreach program to the muslim community. he said -- the muslim community, like every other community. we have an outreach program directly to them. so when i asked him in a previous question, i said, if it's just like every other religious group, how is the outreach going with the buddhist and it is -- and the christians

and the jewish folks -- well there is no other outreach like those. so when he said outreach, despite what the mainstream can't get that you do -- is that that is not investigating the mosques. it is not investigating the tsarnaev brothers. that's crazy. they should have been investigating -- he didn't even know -- and it's not hard to get. these are the articles of organization. al-amewedi here at the top. >> shannon: the man in prison -- >> over 20 years -- for supporting terrorism. he was one of the co-founders of the mosque. >> well, he was the founder of the islamic society of boston. and another guy that was involved on the board of the islamic society of boston, whose brother is the head of something called al qaeda. maybe you have heard of. all of this -- there have been people radicalized at the mosques and our own fbi director -- he is a good man, but he has been so bathed in

this baptism of political correctness -- they weren't investigating for the right things. their outreach. we want to be closer -- i don't know if they sang there or not -- >> shannon: is there something to be gained from creating and cultivating relationships as they were trying to do? can that be helpful in investigating? >> not if there are people being radicalized. that's like saying we would have been before to go to al capone and nurture aid feeling of love and friendship. i don't know what's been going on in those mosques, but there are people who are attending who have been radicalized. they used to have sting operations. that stopped. >> shannon: have to ask you about something i have not heard. what is a sense tich operations review committee? this is a justice department and fbi joint venture? what is it? who are they? >> you are the second person to bring it up -- i was the first.

i am so glad you asked. this is the sensitive operations review committee. as you know, you really do your homework well -- >> shannon: we try. >> they have redacted most of the information that would be helpful. like the subject matter experts that went through the fbi training material and purged it of anything that might be offensive to islamists. they classified who they were. i can guarantee you, the muslims know who they were, they were thrilled that they were purged. they classified the purged material. michele bachmann and i went through it -- there is no reason to classify that because -- am i sure the islamic community is thrilled with the things that were cut out thereof that talked about -- i can't go into what they talked about -- but the fbi is not being trained for the things they need to know. this is another layer of political correctness. you have to go through this sensitive -- sensitive

operations review committee before you can do anything in the form of justice. if it involves a group like islam. >> you and i have looked at the st. same documents. of course, the is interest in the intelligence agency being able to keep a secret. but we don't know who is on this committee or how they operate or what they do. but if you want to investigate certain people and places, have you to go to the committee. we upon keel -- we will keep digging. i am sure the american people would love to know. >> ooze a former prosecutor, i can't imagine having the sensitivity committee to go through -- my father taught me better than that. if it's right, do you it. >> shannon: congressman, thank you very much. thank you very much for that. iran's candidate wins the presidency with an historic turnout. so who is the new president?

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iranians are celebrating after a sprait surprise victory over the presidential elections, many hope that rouhani will usher in a new era for the country. conor powell is live with more. >> reporter: rouhani was founding father of the iranian ruf resolution that ushered in the republic back in 1979. she considered a moderate and unlikely to win friday's vote but he won more than 50% of the total vote and avoided a runoff. rouhani was not considered the most likely of all candidates but he is now viewed as the best candidate to ease tensions between iran and the west. he appears to be offering a more conciliatory approach. his predecessor mahmoud ahmadinejad. >> they issued a statement he could be a helpful sign and rouhani will find a partner if they come clean on the nuclear program.

still here in israel there isn't much hope that iran will bend on its nuclear ambitions. >> iran will be judged by its actions. if iran continues to insist on developing its nuclear weapons program, the end result must be made clear. one way or another it will be stopped. >> reporter: rouhani won with the support of young iranians desperate for change and they called it wisdom and moderation. its sign but he remains a strong supporter of the yeah local la so it's not clear what the new president will be with his election. it may be a softer tone than any real substantial changes in iran. >> shannon: thank you. the debate over landmark immigration bill is underway on capitol hill. critics say it leaves way

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being overblown. dick cheney says he is a trader and possible chinese spy. we begin an exclusive interview who is defending the nsa program. >> many lawmakers on both sides of the aisle do support that surveillance while others worry it could undermine our privacy but dick cheney who helped design the modern security apparatus that americans have had their say about surveillance and can always let their voices be heard at the ballot box. >> they get to vote for senior officials like the president of the united states or senior officials in congress. you have to have some trust in them. you don't go out of a intelligence operation trying to collect data and in effect tell the enemy a what you are doing. >> it would be dumb idea. it makes the program

significantly less effective and it reveals to our adversaries crucial information they shouldn't have. >> the intelligence community briefed congress on justification for the secret surveillance claiming dozens of terrorist attacks were prevented though few details were offered. while he supports the program and need for secrecy some think our civil liberties are in danger of being compromised. >> i don't think collecting millions and millions of american's phone calls, this is time, place, whom you direct the calls is making us any safer. i think it's ultimately a violation of the fourth amendment. i think we ought to have this debate. i'm going introduce a bill that would narrow the reach of 215 to those that have a link to terrorism. >> it permits government collection of phone records. intelligence officials say they are working on providing more information about surveillance programs at home and in 20 countries

around the world. >> shannon: thank you very much. new developments breaking in the civil war in syria. all eyes on syria as the u.s. are going arm rebels and iran is sending soldiers to help the government 1st. u.s. position is too little too late and they will need more help. >> last year assad was isolated and very few friends. this year he is in with hezbollah, and russia stronger than ever. i think our goals in the short term is to balance the military power and providing small arms won't do it. we need to create a no-fly zone to neutralize assad's air power. >> shannon: white house is saying they must move cautiously to end the two-year old civil war. >> we have to be very discerning about what is in

our interests and what the outcome is best for us and the prices we are willing to pay. we rushed a war in the region in the past and we're not going to do it here. >> shannon: syria is expected to be top of the list when leaders meet in northern ireland. should the u.s. arm rebels and if so with a w what. they ask with the sequestration where does the money come from? one says we need to mind our own business. you can reach us at twitter addresses. >> north korea says they wanted high level talks with the u.s. joining us with more with this story is eric shawn. >> now they want to talk and starving citizens and throwing people into prison work camps.

conducting three nuclear tests and firing missiles in violation. they now say they will enter negotiations with washington over the nuclear program. that coming from the in north korea national defense commission according to north korean state media. they are proposing senior level talks to ease their decades long tension in the region and to formally discuss a petition treaty to end the korean war. but the white house says they must abide by national security council resolutions and chief of staff, it must be credible. >> those have to be real and based on them living up to their obligations, on smuggling and other things. so we'll judge them by their actions, not by the nice words we heard yesterday. bottom line, they won't be able to talk their way out

of the very significant sanctions that they are under. sanctions that russia supported and that very importantly china supported. >> reporter: north korea has a history of offering deals and lying about their actions, in the '90s they violated that swapped food in exchange for north korea giving up it's nuclear and ballistic missile programs. and few months ago, they declared the arm miss advertise that ended the korean war was null and void. officials say they plan to meet with japanese counterparts in washington to start going over the latest north korea request. >> shannon: thank you very much. turkey's prime minister says it is his duty to defend his administration against protests as police use water cannons to break

up the protests. leland vittert has the latest. >> reporter: the violence still continues at this hour today. i'm going to step out you so you can look at taksim square. it's relatively quiet, there are hundreds if not thousands of police staged here and all the major choke points around the could square to prevent people from coming in. this is where demonstrators wanted to come out. anti-government demonstrators wanted to come out and police cleared them out. >> the battle certainly begun. we see a stream of people running in, all with gas masks. they know what they are going up against. [ siren ] >> tear gas is overwhelming. its total whiteout.

our face is burning and eyes are burning. more and more tear gas. it's absolutely incredible the speed at which they move, 10,000 people out of this park in no more than about 20 minutes they were able to push all the way through here. >> they tried to kill us. they tried to make some holy terrorism. >> reporter: daylight brought more clashes and attacked people headed to various protests. violence in one of neighborhoods in the battlefield as crowds swell with people angry over the heavy-handed tactics. the crack of bullets broke the sunday calm in the country's capital. >> reporter: the view here in the main square, it's very different than it is in a pro-government rally

where right now there are hundreds of thousands of people in support of the primary in a very stark comparison to here where police are keeping everybody back. they busted people -- and prime minister dismissed the protestors' claims he is something of a dictator turning turkey in a islamist state. protestors could come back in here that could lead to more violence including a strike call by one of major labor unions. >> shannon: thank you very much. senator marco rubio is raising questions and concerns about the immigration reform bill that he helped to write. appearing to this week, he said if the measure is going to win passage, it means beefed up border security measures added to it. >> the vast majority of americans, the vast

majority of conservative republicans are prepared to support it but only if we can ensure we are to not going to have another wave of illegal immigration in the future. >> it would give an estimated 11 million people who are here illegally a path to citizenship. rubio was not alone. several lawmakers are demanding tighter border security be tied to the bill. senator is one of those provisions also says the bill is a budget buster. senator, thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you for the invite. >> shannon: i want to ask this about the budget. you are going to file a budget point of order. what does it mean and how does it work for this bill? >> right now there is $8.3 billion of spending in the bill. rather than live with our budgeted caps and deal with a responsible way, authors of bill call all that

emergency spending so none of the budget rules apply and none of budget cans apply. that is complete cop out in busting the budget discipline we are working hard to begin to impose. so my point of order would challenge that. so-called emergency designation. this is a serious issue but it's completely foreseen. it's not like unforeseen natural disaster or enemy attack. >> shannon: there are a number of different amendments that have been offered. one by your colleague, senator chuck grassley, a republican. it was essentially voted down because it's been tabled but it was about border control and making sure it's done, having a timeline that it is actually verified and locked down before those are here illegally can down that pathway to citizenship. it was voted down. essentially what it does the department of homeland security has to create and

submit a plan, not actually that the border as certified locked down. there are those on the hill it needs to have more so american people can support it. why vote down amendments like the one grassley offered? >> that is what ways asking. the gang of eight voted it down. i think this is central question, the central issue. we can actually verify that border security and workplace security is working, not just on paper but in practice before these legalizations take place. that me that is central question. fatal flaw that has existed in the gang of eight approach and previous approaches like the 1986 reform bill. >> shannon: what is going to happen in the house? even if something gets passed in the senate, but we don't know exactly what the senate will finally vote on, if you get to the house there is talk i think

of the house chair says it will be radically different. he says they don't want to pass something that squeaks by with just enough republican votes. if you are going to do something this important, he wants to see the vast majority of republicans sign on and they won't sign on to what is coming up in the senate. how will this ultimately be resolved on the hill? >> first i don't think a version of gang of eight will pass it in the senate. i don't think it will pass with 60 votes that is why marco rubio is talking about an amendment. in the house, the chair of judiciary is talking about a step by step approach doing things in a certain order so we can see enforcement actually working and actually verified before other things like big legalization happening. >> shannon: do you think the rules will be changed in the senate when it comes to getting the 60 votes to

be able to proceed on things. i think about immigration and judges and other issues where there is being a talk of changing the rules so you can break the gridlock? >> right. there has been that talk for a while. what would be required for the democrats to do that is actually break the rules in order to change the rules. harry reid has promised he is not going to do that for all of this congress through 2014. he has promised that publicly many different times. he could walk away from that and break his promise and his word and his word would be worth nothing but we'll see. >> shannon: senator david vitter, thanks very much. with the deadly colorado wildfires 60% contained. many people are returning home. recent showers have aided the firefighters. extreme weather in arizona,

monsoon season starts around 4th of july but this time it showed up early. they have had torrential rains causing flash flooding in low-lying areas. experts are warning that the strong winds and lightning could spark potential wildfires. monsoon season will continue through the 30th of september. still to come, sources say the c.i.a. will run the program to run weapons to syrian rebels. we will ask ted poe how that will work. and dream vacation this summer? better take your wallet. brenda buttner has the scoop. >> this is with task force in afghanistan and i want to wish my dad a happy father's day and to my daughter, i want to say i love you and i can't wait to see you again. ♪

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>> shannon: the leak case involving domestic records put a spotlight on surveillance. some say the public has a right to know a lot more about the courts that never turn down a government request. >> i think it's quite telling so few of applications are denied. >> shannon: when it comes to getting search warrants they have a good track record as the fisa court. the request to track phone records are drafted within the national security agency or nsa at the request of one of federal intelligence agencies and with certification by the attorney general. over last ten years, there was 18,748 and only ten were turned down. supporters of the program there is a good reason for that. >> the intelligence committee knows the rules and understands what the parameters are and they really work overtime to have the package done as

well as possible before it goes to the judges. >> shannon: each request goes to one of 11 judges before being appointed by john roberts. each was serving as federal court judge. five were originally appointed by george w. bush, four by president reagan and one by george h.w. bush and bill clinton. aclu wants to find out what they do. filing a motion asking the court to make some rulings public. >> when you do have all these rulings in secret and all these proceedings in secret you have a democratic deficit where the public can't judge its representatives or its judges based on actual fact. >> shannon: but coalition is making a similar push to see how sweeping the nsa's power is. >> we know when people are given too much power in

government they will abuse that authority for nefarious purposes, sometimes for political purposes and that is not okay. >> shannon: this week the top judge issued a ruling that the court did not object to the release of a classified opinion that found some of the surveillance efforts unconstitutional. the justice department had argued that the salve's own rules prevented release of that opinion. >> department of veteran affairs are under fire for mismanaging disability benefits. now accusations how they are treating veterans is getting worse. as regional powers in the middle east take sides, the u.s. cautiously moving forward getting involved in the conflict. what should our role be? we'll talk to congressman ted poe about that next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] running out of steam?

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♪ ♪ >> shannon: taking a look at some of the top stories, syrian troops in their offensive against the rebels, u.s. is becoming more involved in the civil war there but some say obama's plan to arm rebel is not enough. lindsey graham says no-fly zone over syria but white house says it will do more over time but the plan the is to move cautiously. >> president obama is set to fly to washington on the way for the g-8 summit as he meets with the leaders of the world's nations. the subject will be leaders are expected to dive into, trade, economic growth and policies. >> dick cheney is standing up to the surveillance program, he said the

program he helped to create after 9/11 has saved lives and stopped terrorist attacks. a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons around or being utilized. that would change my calculus. >> shannon: that is talking about the red line on syria. the c.i.a. will arm the syrian rebels following an announcement from the administration that assad used chemical weapons on civilians. today we have a member of the house foreign affairs committee ted poe to what it means to put weapons in the hands of open six. thank you for joining us. how do we know who we are handing these weapons to? >> we don't know who we are handing them to. there are numerous rebel groups, some are radicals

and some are criminals within the rebels. we're going to give guns to another group of rebels. al-qaeda is involved in one of these rebel groups who is fighting hezbollah on the other side. you got countries lined up in this whole region and now the united states has made their problem our problem we should not be arming anybody in this conflict. >> shannon: what do you make then of the decision that the administration has stated it is going to go through the c.i.a. and we're going to invested in that way, but some arms -- we don't know exactly what -- how does the u.s. move forward with this if there is so much conflict whether we should be doing it or not? >> president says we're going to. what is our national interests? syria didn't attack us. what is our interests being in the middle of this civil

war in syria? we don't know. now, we are involved in this. we've taken sides in this matter. assad is bad guy. we've got ourselves in a situation just like in north africa and arab spring and libya, we started arming the rebels in libya and get rid of moammar khadafy and is that the end game here. we are arming one side, the losing side. >> shannon: what do you make of john mccain's statement there are outside groups that are fighting a proxy war. they are against our interests in his estimation, when you talk about had not been and concerns about russia and iran. how do we deal with the fact that russia is very skeptical of claims that chemical weapons have been used there? >> let's start with chemical weapons. we're really not sure sha assad used them but rebels

may have used them. we're looking this fine red line we're going involved in helping the losing side or help the rebels. sure, iran is involved with syria and russians, but you have qatar and saudi arabia and turkey involved along with al-qaeda. so you got numerous powers in the whole region fighting it out in syria. now, we have interjected ourselves, as well. are we going to escalate this war? are more people going to die on both sides because united states got involved? we shall see. we don't have any national interests and we don't know what our goal is being there in the first place. >> shannon: there are accounts that hundred thousand people have died in the last couple of years. do we have a humanitarian interest and can we provide aid in that sense. how does it end, do we wait until it resolves? >> of course, i believe we should be helping

humanitarian reasons to help the refugees. i've been to turkey and been to the camps where syrians have been in turkey. it's vital we help those people. civilians are caught in the middle of this conflict. that is something we can do. this sunni-shea war that is taking place has been a conflict between these two religious groups since the year 630. i don't see it playing out well in the national interests of the united states. let's help humanitarian goals, help those people take ka care of those that refugees that they are fleeing to. arming the rebels which may lead to an escalation of more u.s. involvement is not the national interests of the united states. >> shannon: congressman ted poe, thank you so much for your time today. more trouble for the department of veterans' affairs which under fire for mismanaging benefits

with a staggering 600,000 claims backlogged. now accusations of retaliation by the department. national security correspondent jennifer griffin has details. >> there are new calls for veterans' affairs secretary to step aside this time the accusation is that he has retaliated against an independent group with investigating gulf war illness a multisyndrome condition that was because of exposure to toxic chemicals in iraq. advocates say he was andered by a 2012 vote of no confidence by the research advisory committee of gulf war veterans illnesses. the group said it had no confidence or demonstrated intention of v.a. staff to formulate an and execute a gulf war illness program. last month, he signed a directive that will slash

the group's budget and limit the board independent from the v.a., a move advocates to sweep gulf war illness under the rug. >> when the secretary was confronted with these recommendations on our part be investigated, they have opt today shoot the messenger. >> i'm troubled by the changes purported to have been made. >> the department of veterans' affairs strongly deny any wrongdoing and says it has recognized nine new diseases associated with gulf war illness. quote, funding for gulf war research has increased from $5.6 million in 2011, to $6.7 million in 2012, to an estimated $7.3 million in 2013. a former v.a. research doctor turned whistleblower told congress in a march that they were manipulating evidence to suggest that gulf war illness was psychological despite evidence to the contrary.

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no-fly zone in place. britain is debating sending arms to the rebels, russia is sending weapons to assad's government forces. are you flying this summer? get ready to pay up as airlines are doubling down on fees. brenda buttner has more details. hi, brenda? >> hey, shannon. fed up, how about feed up. air travelers can look to more fees and particular prices will keep soaring, too. >> it's part of what they do today. airlines to break even or a loss and they are going to make it up in fees. >> adding up to $6 billion. that is what airlines raked in last year for all those extras. but here airlines adding to their revenue by costing passengers up to $100 to carry-on bags.

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you can see our stories at foxnews.com. >> shannon: how do you think a cat would do here in new york? >> i think would it depend on his position on the economy. >> shannon: i think america might be more dog. >> it depends if he is a republican or a democat. >> shannon: peter, thank you. >> senator barbara boxer is proposition millions of dollars in funding to help cover health care costs for illegal immigrants. controversial position in a heated debate over immigration in the senate. mike and alan are ready for the fair and balanced debate. welcome to you both. i want to start with you. state of california which has millions of folks who are here illegally, they want to bear the brunt of cost.

why not? >> because this the worst nightmare for those of us who are worried about the amnesty factor over immigration reform. listen, i've i've been open to the plan of immigration reform. there's a lot of us that have been trying to take a hard look at it. to do nothing is de facto amnesty. but to them, do a circumvention where you would allow illegals to basically jump in the front of the line of americans to get benefits is going to chase people like me away. people are saying let's find common ground here. we're not going to deport people overnight. but this is not the way to do it. to give benefits to people ahead of schedule. one of the great strengths of this immigration reform package is illegals have to wait 15 years before collecting government checks or getting subsidies or being on theublic

doll. if they jump ahead of american citizens, this is dead in the water and will chase people away forever. >> shannon: allen, i want to ask you specifically, senator boxer says some of the funding of what she's proposing to cover would come from the application fees of those who would apply to become legal under this bill, but that money is supposed to go to secure the border. so diverting the money from securing the border to covering health care costs to those here illegally, how is she going to sell that? >> we have fewer people coming to the country than leaving the country. but in terms of the financing, we spent $10.7 billion a year on undocumented workers this country for health care. and if you do a cost benefit analysis because so many of the people who are here undocumented who don't have health care and often are poor go to the emergency room. and under reagan a law was

passed that the emergency rooms have to give health care who whoever comes in. we wind up paying for it anyway. it would save money in the long-term to give preventive health care and let people who are on their way to citizenship which takes 13 years under the immigration bill, allowing them to get preventive care, in the long-term saves the taxpayer money. >> mike, those who support this idea say even if they're not filing formal tax returns every day, those are paying taxes to when they pay a sales take and other things. they're paying in. why not put together this package to cover their health care? >> it's a valid point. and alan makes a valid argument. this is all about the optics. this is where they're trying to decide to what dream it's going to survive here. if you're waving like barbara boxer wants to do, she cannot go

against her roots. when you wave the flag of amnesty, let's move up the process. it's going to chase away any chance for negotiation and compromise. because guys, let's face it. this is all going to be about some degree of compromise on both sides. and so when barbara boxer jumps the gun and starts saying let's go ahead and fund these illegals now and give them health care benefits 13 years ahead of what's on the table, that's bad for this plan. it's going to -- again, it's going to kill it. >> first of all, it's not amnesty like reagan gave to illegals a number of years ago. you have to jump through hoops over a 13-year period. that's not exactly amnesty. and those waiting are put to the back of the line. and this is key if you're a conservative who cares about money and income and the taxpayer dollars, you would think that it would make sense

not to force those who need health care to have to go to the emergency room which costs a lot more money than to get health care under the affordable care act. what barbara boxer is proposing makes sense. >> shannon:. all right. we've got to leave it there. happy father's day. >> happy father's day. >> shannon: all right. taking a look at business news. keyword today is credit. where are small businesses getting it? from the great recession it was credit unions because banks did less lending. but it looks like that's not the trend anymore. the word from biz to credit is big banks are picking up the slack making it easier for small businesses to get loans. coming up, your twitter responses. we'll have some coming up. all business purchases.

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