>> remember, if you have your own hit or miss, send it to us. follow us on twitter. that's it for this show. i hope to see you right here next week, . >> a news alert out of colorado. an entire town, many towns now forced to evacuate. officials raising the death toll from some devastating floods to four people. dozens more remain unaccounted for. one of the biggest problems the rivers of mud now taking entire communities and forcing colorado locals to break out their shovels well before the beginning of winter. hello, everyone, glad you are with us. >> i remember you. >> yes, vaguely. >> you look familiar. >> i think i remember. welcome to requested inside america's news headquarters." thousands of people have now been rescued from some of the state's biggest cities and the damage is so severe that even

for folks who swoiv they say it could only provide so much comfort. >> i'm usually not very emotional. but this is emotional. >> it's like everything you know and love you see get swept away in a matter of hours. >> one friend dead and no idea of you know when we can go back and what will be left when we get back. >> jenna is in the extreme weather center. >> hi. unfortunately, we are dealing with more rain in the forecast. not the incredible historic rainfall we received in the last 48 hours. still, it's going to add salt to the wound out here in denver or outside of denver, colorado. 3w0u8der receiving almost, well, close to their annual average, almost 15 inches of rainfall in 48 hours. their annual average 20 inches. look at aurora outside of denver, this week, close to 12 inches. they typically see in a 84, 17 inches. >> that gives you perspective on

how historic this is. for rainfall in the next 24 hour to 48 hours, we will see a 40% chance of rainfall for today. sunday 60% chance, monday 30% and then good news as we get into tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, a droig out period. so there's your forecast for boulder, colorado. again, the threat for showers, thunderstorms and more flooding for today through monday and then better weather on the horizon as we get into the new workweek. one other story we are watching. this is ingrid, our latest tropical storm that is forecast to become a hurricane within the next several hours. high pressure across the south. central you had is going to protect us for the post-part from ingrid, expected to make landfall across the coast of mexico on monday, bringing in some cases close to 2 feet of rain before this very vulnerable area. we could get a little rainfall across south texas, we would be welcome news for them. we are into exceptional to extreme drought. a quick look at your temperatures across the region.

much cooler air in the great lakes t. northeast just 65 here in new york city. very warm across the south central u.s. very warm across the northwest as well as the southwest and it's just a quick look at your forecast for new york. julie, look at this, we will be into the fall weather. i don't know if you like the sweaters. break them out especially monday. 69 degrees is your daytime high. look at boston, by the way, good to see you and greg together. what a team. >> yeah, they had to pay me double to come in today to work today. double. >> you lock great. >> i wish you would have spent more money on that tie, though. >> double or nothing. >> bye. >> all right. >> a mama jor development in the crisis in syria as secretary of state john kerry and his russian counterpart create a framework for chemical weapons laying out both a time table and spelling

out just how syria must comploirks while the united nations chief weapons inspector prepares to deliver the results of his investigation, to the secretary general sometime this weekend, secretary kerry seems to think before the syrian regime there was no turning back. >> the world will now expect the assad regime to live up to its public commitments and as i said at the outset of these negotiations, there can be no games, no room for avoidance or anything less than full comploins by the assad regime. . >> new york republican congressman peter king joins us, a member of the house homeland security committee, chairman of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence, councilman, always terrific to talk to you. today, oddly enough, the pentagon issued this statement, the credible threat of force is key to driving the diplomatic process. well, if that's so, congressman,

why has president obama conceded to putin's demand from the security council resolution, does that make sense to you? where is the incentive for him to comply? in there i guess the obama administration says the president carries the power for the u.s. to carry out force. i agree with you. this message has become so weakened over the past several weeks. now by actually spreadings across in the rurks again, to make a weak decision even weaker, and we've ray loued putin to come back in and check himself as a mr. jor force in the middle east and almost i would think given assad a guarantee he will stay in power because the russians as protector, they claim they're going to get rid of the chemical weapons, how can we move against assad? how can we give support or sploi to the rebels. we definitely weakened our position. i hope this works. i hope the weapons are gone.

right now, i think we are dealing from an additional weakness. >> would you agree that putin determined the white house was in a pan tobacco get out of the box they had put themselves in. so pouten throws him a life lien, but in the end, it only helps putin's cause by maintaining the security of bashar al-assad in power in syria. >> yeah, it doesn't help his cause. it dramatically advances putin's cause, first of all, assad is his closest alloy. this guarantees assad's stay in power. two years ago, he said assad must go. now assad will most likely stay in power. secondly, putin announced firing a shot or spending a ruble russia after 40 years is back as a major player in the middle east in terms of upcoming obvious debates involving iran, israel, palestinians and russia is going to make at part of that because president obama has become -- so, no, this is a

major diplomatic victory for putin. >> senator bob corker, who is a ranking member of the foreign relations on the senate said this today, the administration's handling of this crisis has hurt u.s. credibility. is he right? >> unfortunately, i think senator corker is entirely right. it's hurt our oshlt acts with our ver sears, israel, are we ablg tell them not to attack iran, if iran crosses the loin, why should the israelis listen to us? why should the jordanians listen to us? you will find other arab countries which have no moral compass, they go where the power is. if they think we are not going to stand for whatever we stand for, they cannot standing with us, not supporting us the way we have come to rely on. in is a very, very dangerous situation. >> two days ago the obama administration was urging haste.

got to get this done. now, all of a sudden they say we will let negotiations go on for a couple of weeks to see if they've gained traction. does that inconsistency and now this lack of urgency only help assad, who according to the latest intellihas scattered his chemical weapons stockpile to some 50 different sites? >> greg the longer this drags out, the better for assad. he can dwrag it out. we saw what hussein did in iraq. he can blame it on rebel attacks, because they haven't stopped fighting, he can't give all access. it can be any number of delay tactics he can use. the longer the delay goes on the less leverage the president has for attack. he had it two weeks ago. if he had gone in august 22nd or 23rd, we would have known what would have happened. congress would not have been able to do anything. assad would not be able to move his weapons around. putin would be in moscow. instead the whole world is changed.

our position has gotten weaker. >> jim rose is traveling with secretary of state john kerry asked him today a short time ago if he thinks assad is going to live up to the agreement an kerry responded to this way, quote, we're going to have to make him. well, how? i mean, where is the teeth in all of this? >> yeah, i really feel badly for secretary kerry. i mean, he was out there two weeks ago compareing assad to hitler and basically imimplying we were going to war the next day t. president pulled the rug out without consulting him when he said he was going to congress. i think john kerry is trying to make a bad case. i understand what he's trying to do. again, we lost so much leverage, our only leverage is through putin and putin, remember, is the person who was just trying to re-establish russia as a power. so he has no reason to be doing us any pafrs. whatever he does good for us is to help him.

we are at the mercy of putin, with i is a terrible position to be in. a country with no longer first rate power. >> in your opinion, the president of russia has out-maneuvered the president of the united states? >> i hate to say that. i will say putin has played his cards ver well and learned how to be a major power. >> representative peter king as always -- >> can i say one final thing? >> go ahead. >> despite guiliani, that yellow tie isn't so bad. >> thank you so much in there spoken like a true politician. okay, towns ravaged by hurricane sandy and more on the famous seaside heights boardwalk. they just can't get a break. >> with a deadloin for a government shut down only two weeks away. we will lock at whether lawmakers are anywhere near a deal and to make claims their

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. >> welcome back, a quick check of the headlines, a terrible time for passengers and a greyhound bus after it goes flying off a highway in ohio injuring 34 people. the national guard resuming rescues for people stranded by the flood in colorado. somerset 25 residents had to be rescued in an operation that began yesterday. egypt's ousted leader mubarak was transferred to a military hospital in august. he is facing charges related to the deaths of some 900

protesters during a 2011 uprising. a showdown over the budget. just two weeks ago before a possible, i should say another government shutdown on october 1st and the gulp between the democrats and republicans are as big as ever. >> congress needs to pass a budget and not attach politicalpolitical motivated riders on their coatdale tails. >> you into ed to make reforms that begin to involve the spending problem that washington has. >> how does this get resolved? the director of the american values institute joins us. ron longine. thank you both for talking to me. alexis washington, obviously, has a huge betting problem. we don't need boeh ener to spell

it out for us. >> i would agree with you, i think washington does not have a big spending problem. i think the challenge is we are having the same debate, the same conversation about debt limit, continued resolutions and shutdown when the loadership is not putting forward any new ideas. what they want to do is defund health care, education, jobs. we need to be thinking of how to grow our economy and stop taking away the very things that are helping our middle class and our senior citizens move forward during this time. >> ron, would you agree that washington doesn't have a spending problem? how can you do that? >> i almost fell out of my seat when i heard that. we worry about our debt ceiling. gee, i see where you have a spending problem. that's why the republicans have pushed washington towards dealing with these fiscal issues. that's why they are in bed with the white house. for the past several years, the republicans have brought the

democrats into these fiscal conversations. you know what, last year, we were able to make tax cuts permanent for 99% of the population this time around, we are looking at the government staying at a lower level funding. we don't continue to break the bank, we try to live within our fiscal means and you know what, i don't think there will be a government shutdown, i think we will be able to resolve these issues. it's aulgss darkest before the dawn. we haven't had a shutdown before '95-'96. i think it will work out. >> here's the problem, house republicans want to raise the debt ceiling. obama refuses to raise the bar on authority. alexis, how do you prevent a government shutdown, then? >> i think what obama needs to do is let the republican drama play out because at the end of the day what speaker boeh ner is showing not only is he increasingly, i think that has tended to be completely ignorant of where the americans are on

these issues. he is completely ignorant of where his own party is. a majority of republican voters don't want to shut down. they don't want all of these arguments. they want to see the leadership come back to the table and stop taking away things essential for our growing middle cloos. >> why do we keep coming to this road, though, ron, this isn't the first time we have been in the threat of a potential government throwdown or shutdown. what about gop lawmakers also who wanted to fund obamacare, how does that play into the risk of a shutdown. >> it will be a risk. they are fighting the status quo obama wants to keep spending or keep things as they r. we are trying to make sure things are different. in terms of obamacare, yes, that has to be worked out. there is an internal fiber for that. i do like the idea that has emerged regarding the delay of funding for obamacare for one year. a delay of implementation of

obamacare for one year. because the obama administration, itself, has delayed the implementation of health care on small businesses for a year, so why not do it for the rest of the population? let sort this out. it's getting pretty scary. >> alexis, senator coburn said adding over $967 billion would make a mockery of the budget krool control act. in a letter to senator majority harry reid, to defund a baum care to strategy is not achievable. is it? >> i think it is achievable, but i think we have to, look, if i ape accept your premise and i agree on some level there is spending challenges in d.c.. >> can we all agree on that for god's sakes? >> i don't agree. i'm saying, even accepting that premise, i think the challenge, julie, is what are we spending our money on? that's what we're coming down to, where the rubber meets the

road is are we going to defund the things that actually help americans, help the middle class grow or are we going to think about the overblown military budget? down that has less impact? >> you think this comes down to defunding what helps middle america on a let's say obamacare bill basically that is agreed upon by 50% of americans? >> what i was going to say, look, in terms, the more people find out about this, the scarier it gets. right now, companies are starting to shrink, they're taking away health care from part-time workers. there are companies taking away benefits for spouses and retirees. this will grow and grow and it's going to grow louder to defund obamacare. i germany tee you that. >> that's all the time we have. thanks, for that fair analysis. >> we'll have the latest on how

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investigators trying to decide the cause of the devastating board walk fire on the new jersey shore. the flames ravaging roughly 50 businesses, seaside heights, seaside park, already trying to recover from super storm sandy. plans to rebuild once again already in the works. >> less than 48 hours after yesterday's fire. chris christie is meeting with the community. and visitors to the iconic board walk this afternoon, getting the

word out. the private meeting rallying together two towns that just finished rebuilding a year after super storm sandy hit. christie vowing to rebuild again, and promising help saying government grants or loans could be made available to cover damages, not covered by insurance. the fire started at a frozen custard shock along the seaside park board walk. 25 mile an hour winds fueling the blaze north, desoying 50 businesses. the fire raging on for nearly six hours. destroying four blocks before firefighters dug a trench acting as a firewall along the board walk, using nearby construction equipment that was used to rebuild after sandy. >> it's the worst feeling, because we are standing here with my friends watching the buildings destroyed, and we all pulled through with sandy. we all got up and got it done. we're hoping for a good future.

but to have this happen is disappointing. >> the season was disappointing as far as dowtourism and now th. >> it's too soon to know what started the devastating fire. overnight, firefighters were dousing minor hotspots. >> the folks on ground are working side by side with the fire investigation team to ensure that evidence is preserved. to that point i know there are a lot of questions about how this fire started. we don't know yet. and it would be irresponsible for any of us to speculate. >> just a devastating scene, greg, back to you. >> brian, thanks very much. and we'll be right back. ♪

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hello, welcome to a brand new hour, inside america's news headquarters. >>. >> topping the news this hour, major developments involving syria's civil war, as the u.s. and russia hammer out an agreement to destroy syria's chemical weapons. can we trust the russians and syrians to do what they promised? we're going to talk to a former cia analyst. >> just weeks ago before the obama care enrollment kicks in. we're learning more and more big companies are opting out. so are insurance carriers. what does this mean for you and your health care? a newlywed believed to have

been pushed off a cliff to his death by his own wife. why is she not in jail today. our legal panel will take up this bizarre case. deadly flooding in colorado forcing entire towns to evacuate. after officials raised the death toll to four people. still dozens more are unaccounted for. despite the tragic loss of life, we're seeing several days over and over, rescue crews trying to get to those who are stricken, stranded. we're going to tell you more about the torys that are beginning to emerge on the ground. nothing short of unbelievable. >> the intense operation in the air and on the ground will continue today at a level i've never seen. to get people inserted and into those areas that are otherwise successful or unreachable. there's been some incredible

stories. we rescued a young couple yesterday from lyons. the young lady's pregnant, her due date is tomorrow. we got her out of lyons, to a home in long mont and her water broke last night. there are personal stories coming out of this that make all of this very, very rewarding. >> dominick is live in boulder, colorado with more. >> reporter: that's quite an uplifting story, isn't it. the rescue workers are reporting an incredible spirit, despite the ordeal and trauma some of them have been through. we have details that not everyone has been so lucky. >> we're hearing a 60-year-old woman may have been swept to her death when a river -- big thompson river actually had a surge early friday morning and swept her home away. the woman's body has not been

recovered. not why the woman was in her home at the time, when there were flood warnings in place for that area. cedar grove in larimar county. people are continuing to stay in their homes despite warnings it is still a danger to remain there. apparently 50 people being somewhat stubborn, saying they can weather threw the floodwaters and they would just carry on. the sheriff's department just a short while ago saying, this is going to complicate recovery efforts. this is how the sheriff described it. >> we may not be able to come back for several days. we may not be able to get through on the roads for a while. we hope they understand we're making our best effort if they pass on it today, we may not be able to help them tomorrow. >> we do have another story of rescues, 55 fifth graders from university park elementary

school in denver, authorities have finally heard from them via radio. they're currently being transported back to denver by bus. that many kids -- there are still many people stranded. 120 stranded out in big elk meadows. 1200 people up in pinewood springs, near lyons and estes park, which has been cut off since late thursday, early friday. still getting high surges in the riverbed, making it difficult for the national guard and emergency crews to save them. we've just had a sprinkling of light rain, it's not going to add much surge to the boulder creek behind me. it's not going to help the efforts, and they're worried it's more rain overnight could complicate things. it's certainly not over yet. >> look at the scene behind you, the swollen river rushing by. really tells the story of what's going on there, dominick live

where all that flooding is taking place near boulder, colorado. thanks very much. >> this same area has been hit for the last several years with incredible drought. and then the wildfires, devastated the region. now this flooding. >> they had wanted so much rain, they needed it dwes plattly. >> all at once. >> too much of a good thing. a little more contact on the flooding. some 4500 square miles have been affected in all. that's almost the size of the state of connecticut. the governor has also declared a state of emergency. 14 counties releasing $6 million in relief funds. in just 15 hours, the city of boulder received more than five times the monthly rainfall. over 500 people have been saved by the national guard since the flooding began. >> an investigation underway after a greyhound bus suddenly goes off the highway in southwest ohio hitting a tree and flipping on to its side before sliding to a stop in a

corn field. police say 34 people were injured. none of the injuries, though, considered life threatening, that bus left cincinnati, bound for detroit carrying 51 passengers on board. as well as the driver. no word yet on the cause of the crash. greyhound says the bus just had it's major annual inspection 14 days ago, the driver was fully rested at the time of the crash. fox news alert now, the united nations saying a short time ago that it has received all documents necessary for syria to join the chemical weapons convention, and syria would come under the treaty starting on october 14th. big news, and now this as john kerry and his russian counterpart reach a deal, laying out the framework for securing and destroying all of syria's chemical weapons. james rosen is live with the latest. >> reporter: good evening from

geneva, u.s. negotiators emerged exhausted from three days of negotiations. they came to terms on some significant issues, but critical differences remain. under the terms of the four-page agreement, bashar al assad will have until next friday to produce a complete and candid accounting of the roughly 1,000 metric tons of chemical warfare agents that thes and russia now agree assad possesses. the u.s. says there are at least 45 such sites, the russians dispute that figure. if assad fails to comply, he could be referred to the u.n. security council, and that body will have chapter 7 authority to order the use of military force. however, a senior state department official acknowledged today russia can be counted on to block the council from proving such punishment. secretary of state kerry, and russian foreign minister also agreed international inspectors receive immediate and

unfetterred access to all relevant sites in syria. declared undeclared sites. with kerry stressing, failure to comply could trigger the use of force. >> depending on what assad does. that possibility exists either within the process of the united nations or as it did here with a decision by the president of the united states, that like minded allies, if they thought that is what it came to. >> this is nothing about the use of force. nothing about sanctions. all violations should be appr e approved by the security council. the agreement we've reached today is only the beginning of the road. >> in all, the aim is to destroy all of syria's chemical weapons arsenal by july 2014.

a goal that u.s. officials called a.m. birks, daunting, but with full syrian cooperation which remains unknown at this point. >> in the meantime, inside syria, christians attending a special mass in the country's capitol of damascus, this as a fierce battle continues. in an ancient christian town in the western part of the country. pictures of some of the victims from the village displayed during the service, the town was a major tourist attraction before the civil war. most of the villages 3,000 residents have reported safety. >> the nation's top labor leaders, meeting with president obama behind closed doors, expressing their concerns over the new health care law. they want federal subsidies now, saying the affordable care act is not affordable at all. and it's going to drive up the cost of some union plans. elizabeth is in washington with the details.

>> after his organization publicly argued the affordable care act will cripple union workers, afl-cio president took his case to the white house friday. seemingly upbeat, but not much of a report from the media. >> what will it take -- >> a solution. >> he's pointed to the damaging effects of the law, calling it highly disruptive. his labor union saying, they will support the law unless changes are made toprotect union multiemployer plans. the white house, however, saying, members are still not eligible for tax subsidies, releasing a statement, and in part it reads, the treasury department does not see a legal way for individuals and multiemployer group health plans to receive individual market tax credits as well as favorable tax treatments. republicans are drawing attention to the fact that one of the presidents biggest supporters is displeased with

the outcome of the law. >> we know big labor is leaning on the president. we know they want him to let them rewrite the same law they helped ram through and apparently he's listening to them. but what about everybody else? >> reporter: mcconnell is urging lawmakers to give people a retrieve. in two weeks, online exchanges open. >> thanks. a newly wed bride now a suspect in a bizarre murder. you have to hear about this one. she's accused of pushing her own husband off the cliff just a short time after tieing the knot. >> a local recall note suggests really big problems for liberals in critical battleground states. >> we're going to look at colorado's recent fight over the second amendment. and debate whether the anger we're seeing there could soon spread. >> if he would just listen to

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. voters in colorado recalling two state senators who pushed for tougher gun control legislation. john morris and angela girad were unseated tuesday. this shows a clear shift against liberal policies in battle ground states. joining us now, john fund. john, always great to see you. >> thank you. >> why the shift against liberal policies? >> well, i think that any i'd logical group that gets too far away from the mainstream will inspire a backlash. and colorado may be a purple state, it certainly has a lot of urban areas and rural areas. and gun rights and the right to reduce domestic energy, and

having been left alone is very important there, and that's regardless of whether people are democrats, independents or republicans. but what's fascinating in those two colorado elections was democrats and independents were more likely to sign the recall petition than republicans. >> in the wake of the new town massacre, last december. the left believed in fact that the public opinion had finally turned in favor of gun control. but really the restriction of gun rights seems to be speaking louder here? >> well, there's a question of passion and intensity. in the case of colorado, it was very clear that while 80 or 90% of people at least theoretically said, yes, we need some regulations against guns going into the improper hands. at the same time, the majority of people said, we don't think this will solve massacres like the one in aurora, colorado or the one in new town, connecticut. those are other issues. those people who did favor gun

rights were much more passionate about it, those who favored some sort of gun control were, i think, rather ambivalent. they said, yes, in theory, try something, but we don't think it's going to work. >> polls actually show, that many people do want some new gun control laws, but at the same time, they say, and tell pollsters, they didn't think they would prevent future new towns? >> exactly. i think it was more of a mental health care issue. in connecticut, they were debating a mental health bill, which would have for the first time allowed connecticut officials to take someone that they felt was a clear and present danger to the community in terms of mental health and basically incarcerate them for a while, so they could be evaluated. that was turned down by the aclu. a lot of people said, that would have been a much more effective approach. >> here's what this says, it says to politicians that the voting public don't want politicians coming in and meddling into their lives and telling them how to live their

day to day lives. the question then, is how is this going to play out in future elections, and could the anger we're seeing in colorado right now, spread elsewhere? >> well, i think you saw a lot of this with obama care. people felt that the politicians in washington weren't telling them the whole truth when they said you can keep your insurance and your doctor. we're already seeing a lot of changes taking place under obama care, i think we're seeing once again, if people get too far away from the mainstream, that can happen on the left or the right. they anger voters who think they're being played with or manipulated or not being told the whole truth. you can see another uprising like you saw in 2010. midterm elections tend to be much more focused on people who are angry, because the voter turnout is much lower. >> and when voters are angered, though, they're more likely to go to the polls? >> absolutely. >> it's a good thing? >> well, i believe everyone should vote. but you can't force people to vote.

if people are motivated by passions, it's going to be a much bigger driver of voter turnout about. >> always great to see you, thank you very much. >> the united states and russia agreeing to a deal that would involve syrian president bashar al assad handing all of his chemical weapons stockpile to international monitors. both russia and syria can be trusted to hold up their end of the bargain. we're going to take a look at how it all got to this point, straight ahead. >> regular cue teams now working to save souls trapped by floodwaters in colorado. an up close look at their efforts next. >> colorado had some of the best military pilots in the world. now we're putting it into the greatest cues possible rescuing american citizens. ♪

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welcome back. time for the news. 2500 residents had to be rescued in a single operation as officials raise the death toll now to 4. investigators try to determine the cause of that devastating fire, on new jersey's famous seaside heights board walk. the flames ravaging a strip already trying to recover from super storm sandy. >> hosni mubarak has been in a military hospital since august, now facing charges related to the dearth deaths of some 900 protesters. >> returning now to one of our top stories. the u.s. and russia reaching an agreement on a framework to destroy syria's chemical weapons. this comes after days of intense negotiations between the russian foreign minister and secretary of state john kerry. >> the united states and russia are committed to the elimination

of syrian chemical weapons, in the soonest and safest manner. we agree that syria must submit within a week, not in 30 days, but in one week, a comprehensive listing and additional details will be addressed regarding that in the coming days. >> now, the u.s. says syrian president bashar al assad carried out a horrific chemical weapons attack in august. killing more than 1400 of his own people. how could those weapons be removed from the country. molly is live in washington with the story. molly? >> julie, president obama says there will be consequences if syria does not comply with the framework announced today, but syria is not part of this agreement. so the big question is, what will the syrian government do. secretary kerry said today he thought the goal of reading syria of its chemical weapons was achievable because the syrian government has taken extraordinary pains to keep those chemical weapons under its

control. even during a civil war. and, therefore, kerry says it should be easier for international inspectors to have access to the sites where the weapons are kept. president obama said the u.s./russia agreement was progress, and also said, this framework provides the opportunity for the elimination of syrian chemical weapons and a transparent expeditious and verifiable manner. the international community expects the assad regime to live up to its commitment. the united states remains prepared to act. >> the obama administration contends the u.s. will know rather quickly if bashar al assad intends to comply. syria has one week to submit a comprehensive listing of all its chemical weapons, stockpiles, the united nations weapons inspectors are to be on the ground in syria by november. some lawmakers in the u.s. are voicing their doubts about syria's trustworthiness.

absent the threat of force, it's unclear to me how syrian compliance will be possible under the terms of any agreement. i'm still reviewing the details and believe syria's willingness to follow through is very much an open question. but i remain supportive of a strong diplomatic solution to syria's use of chemical weapons. fox news asked secretary kerry today if he thinks bashar al assad will live up to the agreement, and kerry said, we're going to have to make him. julie? >> molly in washington, thank you. and you've got -- you can't miss this, tomorrow on fox news sunday. chris van holland and michael mccall will discuss syria. and the potential pitfalls of relying on russia, that is tomorrow on fox news sunday.

>> the aren't investigation into the benghazi terror attacks has stalled is because the obama administration wants to treat it like a criminal proceeding and bring all of the accused into a federal courtroom. >> the administration's determination to prosecute the benghazi suspect in criminal court, also known as article iii court has thrown up roadblocks. >> treating this like a criminal event, using article three, which is what an american citizen would go through, with all the rights of the constitution, i think -- i don't know how anyone could come to the conclusion it hasn't slowed it down. >> based on intelligence reporting, the benghazi suspects have remained free. counter terrorism analysts say, the prosecution strategy has effectively pushed aside a military option. >> u.s. intelligence officials and/or war fighters are hand

strung by enforcement models because there are a lot of guys who are known terrorists in the benghazi attack who could be taken off the battlefield right now. >> and it's off the table today. >> we're not sending anyone -- we are working to reduce the population at gitmo, ultimately with the goal of closing it. >> a criminal case requires physical evidence by the time the fbi reached the consulate last bafall, the crime scene wa contaminated. and the libyan government is too unstable to offer the u.s. the support it needs for a complex international case. >> it's hard to know who to deal with, we do not have the security forces we develop rapport with. >> this week's capitol hill underscored the obstacles of a law enforcement model. >> the people who do this for a living are really frustrated. >> fox news asked the justice

department why it's so committed to the prosecution, given the hurdles and allegations it's slowing down the investigation. and with no immediate response. in washington, fox news. newly wed accused of pushing her husband off a cliff after just eight days of marriage in montana, has been released from jail, believe it or not. her name is jordan lynn graham, there she is. she's under house arrest, but she's out on bail while awaiting trial, graham is facing second degree murder charges for the death of cody lee johnson, the man who first set the couple up says, he had misgivings about their relationship before his friend died. >> cody was putting everything in the relationship. he put 110% all the time. and we really weren't quite sure if she felt the same way. >> let's bring in our legal panel. fox news legal analyst -- a lot of folks are shocked that a woman who after eight days of

marriage tosses her husband off a cliff to his death, he's suddenly out on bail. but i guess prosecutors couldn't prove either a flight risk or a danger. >> people get a little confused, you don't detain someone as punishment for the crime. it's a procedural nice etty, because they haven't been convicted yet. >> is it a risk, is there a risk that the person will not appear in court. and i think it's fair to say that she's not a flight risk. is she a danger to the community? the argument is, this is an abboritional -- she's only a danger to her husband. >> there may be more, buyer beware. look, here's the thing. she could have gotten away with this, there were no witnesses, except for the fact that she's a really bad liar. >> exactly. once law enforcement learned he could have slipped.

what was their relationship before that day, is there an insurance policy at issue? who's the beneficiary. there's got to be some sort of motive. if there's motive, money involved, she's doa. >> friends were saying she was expressing second thoughts about marrying the guy. they didn't seem terribly happy. and then there's this one e-mail just before she goes out on a walk where she tosses him over the cliff. she writes to a friend, but dead serious, if you don't hear from me at all again tonight. something happened. >> that was really -- that caught my attention big time. why would she be foreshad doing, forecasting, wait a minute, something may happen. >> that suggests premeditation? >> well, they charged her with second degree murder in federal court, because this happened on a federal property, federal park. >> the reality is for second degree, you don't need lying in wait, et cetera. >> here's the problem, there are

no witnesses as we pointed out before. i see them pleading this down either to voluntary or involuntary manslaughter, don't you? >> i think that's a setup. she could have easily just lawyered up and said, i don't know what happened. i turned my head and he was down. >> heat of passion, sudden impulse, i did something i didn't plan and premeditate the killing, i just reacted badly? >> exactly. the funny thing is, on a more practical level, putting the law books to the side, when you submit to authorities or the courts, say, this was a sudden thing that happened. she'll do much better than fighting it with that defense. >> you know what's interesting too, gender's going to come into this. how many times are we sitting here saying, another man killed his wife. another man killed the girlfriend. now it's a little different. statistically and historically, there have been very few women who have killed their boyfriends and spouses. that's going to sneak in here, because there's some issue.

we'll see it -- >> the penalties would be lower with this gender dynamic than in reverse. >> exactly. >> what about involuntary manslaughter, which would be a sort of, oops defense. i pushed him and i meant to push him, i didn't mean to kill him, it's sort of reckless behavior. >> that's right on the money. in other words, my thinking was, that if they turn around to actually try to defend this case, they would work off her admission. i pushed him intentionally, didn't intend him to die. >> back to the gender difference. and her name escapes me, we covered her trial recent ly. she's still looking at the death penalty. that was a vicious killing. >> stabbed him 26 times and shot him. >> that's different than pushing someone off the cliff? >> well -- >> didn't have enough time to hate him, obviously. like jodi arias did.

>> stabbing him 26 times and for good measure, shooting him in the head. >> i don't know, as you're falling to your death, i don't think it makes much difference. you know, so prosecutors are going to have to do, let's make a deal here, simply because there are no witnesses. we can all agree? >> absolutely. >> it's her story against nobody else, really. >> when you have -- >> also, there's really -- there's no history of any violence. no one's coming forward, and saying, i knew this was going to happen. she beat him all the time, nothing like that. >> well, i wouldn't be surprised if the abuse defense emerges. >> it's going to depend on what the judge allows in along those lines, essentially whether it's prejudicial and so on. i think you make a good point, which is that it's only her confession and they may be able to attack it, before that happened, she lied a couple times, consciousness of guilt. >> this is federal, federal

jurisdiction is much stricter than it is sustained. you have sentencing guidelines that are going to come into play. you have the judges -- >> she's getting the mental health evaluation, which has raised the question of whether or not she's going to try some diminished capacity insanity type defense. >> that almost never works. >> it doesn't except for temporary insanity might work. >> even in most cases, you raise an excellent point. only 2% of those cases are successful, it's so difficult to say to the jury, i did the crime, but i didn't understand i was doing the crime. >> foaming at the mouth and your head's spinning around like linda blair. >> exactly. >> mercedes, great to see you. >> jules? >> with obama care enrollment set to kick off at the start of next month, one of the nation's major insurers announcing it will not participate in another state health change. what this means for american families across the country, we'll have that coming up next. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics...

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aetna announcing its pulling out of new jersey's state run health exchange. that move follows withdraws in five other states, including new york, maryland, ohio, georgia, connecticut, where aetna is based, and other companies like united health care and cigna, also planning only limited participation. how is this going to impact average americans this coming fall. joining us now -- aetna is

pulling out a lott of these schan exchanges. a bunch of other companies said this makes no sense. most states decided to opt out against the exchanges forcing the federal government to do it. >> does the word chaotic mess sort of fit the bill here? >> when you go to your health care provider today, youake your insurance card and hand it to your receptionist, am i covered, you don't really know, you add 2400 pages of complexity to a system that's already complex, and obviously everyone is confused. i think the average american has the head in the sand, we don't know what the outcome will be. these big companies opting out is logical, that's what i would do if i was running a big insurer. i would wait and see what the real risk is to the insurer. they have the risk of adverse

selection because we don't know who's going to participate. one group we do know who's going to participate are those who have pre-existing conditions. >> look, the whole design of the affordable care act was to make it affordable for most americans, and in doing that, you had to have the participation of young, healthy americans. well, now, the projections are, that most healthy americans aren't going to do it, it makes no financial sense to them, to pay enormous sums of money for policies, these cadillac policies that are being forced on them, when they can just pay a penalty, if you don't have the young people buying into the program and only paying a penalty, how can it support itself financially. >> well, it's easy to look at the system we have with medicare and tell that it's not financially viable unless you have a wide group of people to insure. i know if i were 25 and healthy,

and looking at this program, i would have to think twice about whether i want to participate or not. we know that the young people are going to carry the burden of this program, i'm not sure it's fair to them. >> the other part of it is, all right, let's say you opt out and pay the penalty, if you get seriously ill, that very day that you find out, you can buy into the program, and, of course, you're covered for all pre-existing injuries. that was another fatal flaw in the design here, i want to put up on the screen, all of the alterations that have been made by executive fiat, by president obama, the medicare cuts delayed by the president, the employer mandate delayed. the subsidy verification has been delayed. 2,000 plus businesses and unions have been waived out, even congress was given a waiver, because they didn't want to have anything to do with it. we have the aflcio meeting

behind closed doors yesterday, they are complaining that obama care is ruining the unions, if president obama doesn't change it and rewrite the law, they're not going to back him any more. this is the same union that spent about $100 million supporting obama care? >> and that's the thing, looking at this, it's certainly not equal application of the law. there is favoritism, there are benefits being provided to some groups and not others, hopefully this is one of the things that will have our legislator step back, maybe simplify this program, and put it on us in stages, instead of trying to do it all at once, it's too confusing at this point, and if you can't apply it equally to all groups, it shouldn't be applied at all. >> we began this segment talking about aetna pulling out of the health care exchanges, aetna did something else in reaction to obama care.

they began sending out cancellation notices to tens of thousands of individual policyholders in places like california and elsewhere. united health care did the same thing. does that essentially put a lie to the president's promise that if you like your health care coverage, you get to keep it? >> well, you know, that's one of the things, and it's even true in the employer field, where employers currently have insurance. they may drop that coverage and force their employees on to the exchanges. one of the concerns with aetna dropping out, and some of these big insurers, is that you'll have smaller -- a smaller group of providers that you can go to and less choice. so it's certainly -- for those of us that have very good health care coverage at the current time, it makes you question if that will continue in the future. >> the president of aetna has warned that insurance premiums because of obama care will double for small businesses and individuals all over america. we'll have to wait and see what

happens. thanks so much for being with us. good to see you. >> thank you. >> concerns remain as the u.s. and russia reach an 12eth hour deal on syria's chemical weapons. what could happen if this transfer doesn't go down as planned. and whether the violence we're seeing in syria could wind up spreading if these dangerous weapons fall into the wrong hands. ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing really good around ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ every now and then i get a little bit tired ♪ ♪ of living off the taste of the air ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ with our new, improved peanut butter chewy bars.

critics are concerned this weekend's 11th hour deal civili. this does little to ensure syria won't carry out that kind of attack again or prevent the weapons from falling into the wrong hands once out of damascus. scary scenarios. a former analyst and chief analyst and thank you for talking to us.

russia made many things clear. number one, opposed to military action against syria. two does not plan to support a u.n. resolution authorizing military action and a unilateral action is illegal. how closely do you believe president obama is going to listen to russia's concerns? >> well, i think the president has already give's in to russia's kearnrussi russia's concerns. a use of force if the syrian government did not live up to the resolution to remove chemical weapons. the russians would not agree to that. therefore, a rather toothless agreement has been agreed to by secretary kerry which said that syria will be referred to the u.n. security council for sanctions and other action, but the russians have already said that they're not going to tolerate authorization for use of force. basically, julie, what we've seen, we're going to throw paper at the syrians if they don't

comply with this agreement. >> the long op-ed published by the "new york times" on wednesday, russian president vladimir putin pleads tore tfor u.s. not to react militarily. why the moral high ground all of a sudden for a man better known for jailing critics, persecuting gays and steam-rolling smaller countries? wipe in the world should we trust him? >> it's hard to trust. i mean, he's a former kgb officer and his government is arming the syrians. i heard reports there is a planeload of weapons landing in damascus every day from russia. they are using this as an effort to rein in the united states, to reduce america as a great power. i mean, russia is not a superpower anymore, and this is a vehicle that a number of nations used, zyuzus using the nations to restrict the pow are. we should not be giving russia and china a veto over use of

force. >> talk about syrian leader bashar al assad to hand over chemical weapons. putin writes, avoid, improve the international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. a shared success and open the door for discussion on other critical issues. why would we trust al assad after all that's happened, to follow through, put up his hand and release all of those chemical weapons? >> it's sort of mind-boggling. first of all, we can both agree no matter how weak the agreement is we want syria to give up its chemical weapons. my teconcern, it will have many problems. we may need troops to safeguard them. the syrian government has a history of not cooperating with international teams and not safeguarding their safety. with the lack of enforcement mechanism, it's hard to see why they're going to cooperate. there's going to be lengthy

negotiations if there's violations, syrianle less will it, russians will back them up. >> is a deal with syria going to prevent rogue groups like al qaeda from gaining access to the deadly agents? >> that is an excellent question. we don't know whether the syrian opposition or al qaeda groups that infiltrated the opposition have access to chemical weapons. the russians think they do. the syrian government thinks they do. whether they have accomplished that or not, this agreement has no impact on them. they are not compelled to do this, and how would weapons inspectors go after the syrian opposition? >> frederic, thank you. we are out of time. that's does it for us. "a healthy you & carol alt" starts next. and more "america's news hq." ♪

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