hello. good afternoon and welcome. this is gb news on tv, onune welcome. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm not a quick over the next 2 hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics that are hitting the headlines right now . this show all right now. this show is all about opinion . it's mine is and about opinion. it's mine is and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we disagree , but no one we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me will be cancelled. so joining me today is author broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journal entrepreneur danica flint. there's nothing on there for him. he won't lie. before we get let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines headlines. good afternoon. it'sjust headlines headlines. good afternoon. it's just gone. 4:00. i'm alex porter in the gb news room. labour leader keir starmer

has accused the of locking the country into an economic doom . country into an economic doom. the comments follow the chancellor's autumn statement yesterday . meanwhile, the yesterday. meanwhile, the institute for fiscal studies is warning the fool in living standards will be the largest since records began. jeremy hunt has defended his plans as the right thing to do. but sir keir says the fiscal measures will hurt the most vulnerable . the hurt the most vulnerable. the government yesterday, having done damage to the economy, has gone after working people again with stealth taxes and council tax increases and done nothing about non—dom status . super rich about non—dom status. super rich are not paying their taxes in this country and they've got no plan for growth . they're looking plan for growth. they're looking to see they do loop. we would put a plan for growth on the that actually runs towards challenges of tomorrow . a sexual challenges of tomorrow. a sexual predator has admitted to the murder of graduate zara elina who was brutally kicked and stump on and left for dead . stump on and left for dead. jordan mcsweeney also admitted

sexually assaulting zara. elina as she walked home from a night out in east london last summer. the 35 year old from dagenham was found by passers by with severe injuries. she later died hospital. mcsweeney had only recently been released from and had targeted more one woman before civil servants . the home before civil servants. the home office. border force . department office. border force. department of transport and defra are to take industrial action in a dispute over pay. the union has been for a 10% pay rise for its members , but this was rejected members, but this was rejected by the government . it's planning by the government. it's planning one month of what it calls industrial action from mid—december, which will affect borders and other areas of transport. royal mail workers have also announced a further series strikes in the run up to christmas . the communication christmas. the communication workers union walk out in six states in december , including states in december, including christmas eve . that's in christmas eve. that's in addition to the four days coming up over the next two weeks. royal mail has called the action

damaging the football association has criticised qatar overits association has criticised qatar over its u—turn on alcohol. it comes fifa announced that beer will be sold at the islamic countries world cup stadiums. the fsa criticised the timing of the decision which comes just two days before the tournament kicks off. fans had previously told they would be allowed to dnnk told they would be allowed to drink within the ticketed perimeter of each match venue . perimeter of each match venue. south korea and united states have held a joint air drill in response to north korea's latest missile launch . the exercise missile launch. the exercise included firing against targets, simulating missile launches. a senior us government official said. north had fired a missile that can hit many, many around the world. vice president kamala harris the launch calling it a brazen violation of multiple u.n. resolutions. brazen violation of multiple u.n. resolutions . a swedish u.n. resolutions. a swedish prosecutor has said damage to the nord stream and the baltic

sea in was caused by act of sabotage. investigators have found traces of explosives at the site of damaged gas pipelines linking russia and germany. swedish and danish authorities are investigating four holes on both nord one and two lines. russia has british navy personnel were . allegations navy personnel were. allegations the mod denies the royal air says it's found unacceptable behaviour in the red arrows after allegations of sexual assault , after allegations of sexual assault, bullying and misogyny . assault, bullying and misogyny. the force said the investigation found no criminal activity but disciplinary action had been including dismissals. it's thought more than 40 members of staff gave evidence. the the team has since training in unacceptable behaviour . the unacceptable behaviour. the owner of a luxury hotel in kent has told gb news he rejected a government offer to house asylum seekers because . he wasn't

seekers because. he wasn't prepared to make his staff redundant. in an exclusive , redundant. in an exclusive, richard martin, who owns the blazing donkey hotel near sandwich says he was offered over million pounds for a one year contract. he says he think of anything more absurd and didn't want to let down the community that relies on his venue for events to help with the worsening cost of living crisis. the uk's biggest retailer is offering its staff advances on their pay under the tesco , around 280,000 workers tesco, around 280,000 workers can receive to a quarter of their pay early . the supermarket their pay early. the supermarket chain . it'll help staff avoid chain. it'll help staff avoid having to take on expensive debt with high interest payments. staff are allowed one advance per pay staff are allowed one advance per pay period at a fee of just under £1.50. twitter temporarily closed its offices amid a wave of staff resignations . the of staff resignations. the measure was reportedly prompted by fears disgruntled staff could sabotage the company. hundreds of employees have the fleet have

quit after owner elon asked them to sign up for long at high intensity or leave. musk tweeted he isn't worried about resignations because the best, he says, are staying . twitter he says, are staying. twitter says the offices will reopen on monday . this is gb news will monday. this is gb news will bnng monday. this is gb news will bring you more news as it happens. now let's return . happens. now let's return. to good afternoon is fast approaching 80 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news live on tv onune 4:00. this is gb news live on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana aware taking cash here . we nana aware taking cash here. we go again virtually , signalling go again virtually, signalling celebrities, banging drum against racism whilst taking the cash. against racism whilst taking the cash . the england football team cash. the england football team are apparently holding talks no no knows about how they will

tackle racism in the sport head on and what actions will take if it transpires. oh no, no, no . it transpires. oh no, no, no. they're having talks over whether . they will or won't whether. they will or won't take. the knee, the qatar world cup before monday's opening group game iran. so alongside the rainbow coloured laces or armbands or whatever it was they were going do in support of lgbt , they are now spending , were going do in support of lgbt , they are now spending, in my view, more time discussing yet another virtue signal and from what i can see way more time on that than dealing directly with the problem itself . gareth the problem itself. gareth southgate's players so far taken the knee 35 consecutive games before the nations league in september and the premier league. however decided only to do this in my view, empty gesture on high profile matches . for goodness sake , gareth . for goodness sake, gareth southgate has ignored the reaction of the booing fans. he said that his group were more to than ever to take the knee. now

i don't believe in booing people if they want to do this because. booing is simply bad manners, but getting down on bended knee to remind people of how race they are or how racist the world is, or to highlight the plight of racism, which doesn't really highlighting because it's clear to whilst playing matches countries whose human rights abuses abhorrent whilst also taking the cash is frankly an inqu taking the cash is frankly an insult . it's only the right insult. it's only the right thing to do. would be to refuse to play or for fifa refuse to have the big events like the world cup and intolerant countries, or perhaps even to stop where racist behaviour like throwing bananas onto the pitch or racist abuse is being chanted and then to prosecute the people, the would sort out their behaviour pretty sharpish . but i behaviour pretty sharpish. but i don't know that. so bend down on knee, show how much care about racism . let us all take the knee racism. let us all take the knee and then let's take the cash cash.

and then let's take the cash cash . so before we get stuck cash. so before we get stuck into debate, here's what else coming up today for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, does autumn statement benefit to answer? jeremy benefit you to answer? jeremy hunt took to the comments to deliver his orton's yesterday. he announced . deliver his orton's yesterday. he announced . £24 billion of he announced. £24 billion of taxes whilst also introducing £30 billion worth of spending cuts . and that says the office cuts. and that says the office of budget responsive liberty obe also claimed that the country will enter a steep recession that will essentially erase 80 years of fiscal growth . so i'm years of fiscal growth. so i'm asking, are any of policies benefiting you then for 50 years inside of ukraine, vladimir zelenskyy maintains , that he zelenskyy maintains, that he wasn't responsible for the explosions and in a polish town insisting that there was evidence of russian traces in the blast. that is, despite claiming it was likely a ukrainian missile. i'll be by a political commentator later this houn political commentator later this hour. and at five. it's this week's friday focus . hour. and at five. it's this week's friday focus. his hour. and at five. it's this week's friday focus . his autumn

week's friday focus. his autumn statement. jeremy hunt also announced that suffolk, cornwall, norfolk and another regions of the north—east are set to gain new so called mayors as part of devolution deals across england now . that is, as across england now. that is, as the windsor report that london mayor sadiq khan failed to follow due process during ousting of the former metropolitan police commissioner, commissioner cressida dick . so commissioner, commissioner cressida dick. so i'm asking is further devolution of power really the way forward? that's on the way in the next as ever. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. you can gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right. let's me at. gb news. right. let's welcome again to my panel. broadcaster and author christine hamilton and broadcaster, journalist and on troppo no doubt, boys talk. i want another danny kennedy. i want you to dive into that. hello. hello. always reminds me of george bush. george bush . wonderful

bush. george bush. wonderful remark. he was talking about the french. he said they don't even have a word entrepreneur. very good. very good. oh with you, christine. okay, take take the what ? they should not be there what? they should not be there in the first place, in my view. okay. it's their fault. but the fact that this whatever it's called is taking place. qatar. qatar, to me is absolute abomination. it has the appalling human rights record and who went massively up in my estimation the day was estimation the other day was peter tatchell made a very, peter tatchell, who made a very, very stand. he went over and he held up and he could have been in prison for anything could have to him, all have happened to him, he's all right he home but i mean right and he home but i mean good for him taken and just good for him taken and it just it absolutely empty it is an empty absolutely empty . what does it mean now nothing . nothing. what's the name? you're footy person. what's the name chelsea player? name of the chelsea player? marcus rashford . now that's my marcus rashford. now that's my name. marcus money. no, there's a spanish player plays for chelsea. matt anyway, he was one of the first ones. you just refused to do it at all. was it a blood geyser bloke? oh, i

don't know. we've got to be a white. what? refused to do it because hillary's. no, he's got to be brave man to stick his head the parapet . you're head above the parapet. you're white refuse take white and you refuse to take that course and all of a that of course and all of a sudden they should have decided this last with whole premier this last with the whole premier league. convinced, league. because i'm convinced, in would bet my house on in fact i would bet my house on the fact that as unpopular in the fact that as unpopular in the dressing room as it is amongst society , why is society? amongst society, why is society? it's 5050, maybe 60, 40 unpopular. so now surely as reflected in the dressing room, but you try and be a professional footballer , professional footballer, particularly a white lot, who's going you what? i don't going to say, you what? i don't want to be associated with this marxist of . people marxist group of. people who want the police , who want to defund the police, who don't nuclear family . and don't want a nuclear family. and i'm but i'm not going to i'm sorry, but i'm not going to take the knee. if you're a white guy, you'll have the race card thrown out, of course you will. if say that you're a racist, if you say that you're a racist, which absurd. happens which is absurd. so what happens if black you if you're a black and you say it, can away with it. it, you can get away with it. no, seriously, i mean, no, but seriously, i mean, look this to empty gesture. this is to me an empty gesture. i that this is to me an empty gesture. ithat is this is to me an empty gesture. i that is totally i that racism is totally unaccepted. call it out every unaccepted. i call it out every time i do things

time i see it. and i do things like i go to schools i do lectures, i do motivational talks, i do something, off talks, i do something, i get off my and i get off my knees my feet and i get off my knees and i do something i'll represent i'll be on talking, you hopefully. people you know, hopefully. and people will hey , if they will look and say, hey, if they identify me, might identify with me, they might think, i do it too. think, well, i can do it too. that just something that that is just something that i would do because it's for me and i want to build people up, whether black, white whether they're black, white or whatever. down on whatever. but bending down on one to show that you are one knee to show that you are your associate affiliated with or you show empathy , it it's not or you show empathy, it it's not good enough because what you would do you shouldn't go would do more, you shouldn't go . what doing is, is . what you're doing is, is, is positive . you're doing something positive. you're doing something positive. you're doing something positive to defeat racism , positive to defeat racism, whatever form it is actually to show people that you can do it, etc, but it is it's etc, etc. but it is it's a completely meaningless frankly this take gareth southgate gesture politics. gareth southgate should his mouth southgate should keep his mouth shut it's a political shut because it's a political issue should keep his issue he really should keep his mouth shut. this should have been last year the whole been decided last year the whole premier league all the footballers have a footballers should have had a secret do want to take knee? secret. do we want to take knee? because the left wing portray

all of these footballers, these multimillionaire footballers as as very blm. blm we must not forget and i mentioned this earlier, that anti—capitalists. okay, so why would a multimillionaire footballer follow the doctrine of an anti capital? that's because they're forced to do so . there should forced to do so. there should have a secret ballot . yeah, have been a secret ballot. yeah, because gareth southgate , a because gareth southgate, a football manager, not football manager, he's not a politician . do it. perhaps they politician. do it. perhaps they do want to it. don't. you do want to do it. you don't. you don't that now. if don't know that now. i think if there been ballot, there had been a ballot, a secret ballot, would have secret ballot, we would have known you known about it. because if you go democratic and we all have go to democratic and we all have said, fine, if they want to destroy, them do but destroy, let them do it. but there's a feeling they're all doing it because otherwise they'll be regarded racist. well, i mean, there's also the comment say, well, comment that they say, well, we'd of we'd like to stay out of politics. well, want to politics. well, if you want to start a politics don't take the knee cant start a politics don't take the knee can't then say, knee because you can't then say, oh, you're oh, it's not fair. you're talking and you're talking about us and you're going it and we, we, we going on about it and we, we, we are playing qatar, but we're going ignore of if going to ignore all of that. if you're going knee, then you're going to take knee, then you're going to take knee, then you also acknowledge the you have to also acknowledge the human qatar human rights abuses in qatar and the of people. the treatment of lgbt people. and those and if you acknowledge those things, would that

things, it would that you probably you're probably wouldn't go. you're still going. still they're still going. they're money and they're all taking the money and yet they're bending down on me. i think enough i don't think good enough i don't fair. i don't don't think that's fair. i don't think should 12 think they should have. but 12 years were the world years ago, qatar were the world cup. don't think should cup. i don't think they should have the course. have been awarded the course. they football they shouldn't. football is false. blaming them. false. no, i'm not blaming them. i'm you i'm just saying what you say they saying that if they should know, saying that if you're going to yourself you're going to involve yourself in, politics, must in, politics, then you must understand we involve understand that when we involve you for example, you in politics, for example, you're going somewhere that politically is not really not widely don't widely accepted. people don't really the they behave. really like the way they behave. you're do that. then you're going to do that. then you'll be fined as a hypocrite. there's no point you the footballer nobody footballer a hypocrite. nobody will be i know that vastly . will be i know that vastly. they're vastly overpaid, but it would one hell of a start for a senior footballer leading player. i've no idea who they are, but if of them say i'm not going because that is it, it's rod stewart who said he wasn't . rod stewart who said he wasn't. yeah, can do that. he's yeah, but he can do that. he's in a privileged position, but he's done for him. if he's done it good for him. if people that, people people did that, if people didn't there racism didn't play, if there was racism , and they just said, , the pitch and they just said, right, that's it we're not playing, it. then things playing, that's it. then things would change if people said

refuse play the game refuse to actually play the game , then something happen. , then something would happen. but not going to but they're not going to go. they're to the money they're going to take the money and do virtually and they're going do virtually what do is walk out what they should do is walk out the pitch and then all just sit down and refuse play. would down and refuse to play. i would protest against the people that stop selling . that's quite stop selling. that's quite funny. that's go for that and you just welcome. this is good news on tv online and, on digital radio. after the break. it is time for our debate this houn it is time for our debate this hour. i'm asking you lots of things about the autumn statement. i'm wondering, did it benefit you at now, benefit you at all now, chancellor jeremy benefit you at all now, chancellorjeremy hunt benefit you at all now, chancellor jeremy hunt took to the comments to deliver his statement he announced the comments to deliver his statement he announce d £24 statement he announced £24 billion of tax rises, statement he announced £24 billion worth of tax rises , £30 billion worth of tax rises, £30 billion worth of tax rises, £30 billion cuts. that is billion worth of cuts. that is the office for budget the our office for budget responsibility . he claimed responsibility. he claimed that the enter steep the country will enter steep recession. i'm asking , are recession. so i'm asking, are any these policies you some any of these policies you some of your thoughts gbviews@gbnews.uk . tweet me at gbviews@gbnews.uk. tweet me at gb news. is a poll up right now asking that very question. does this autumn statement benefit you ? cast your vote now. first,

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good afternoon . this is gb news. good afternoon. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. welcome on board. if you've just joined us, don't forget can follow us live on and you can even download free gb news app. now before the break we were discussing we should be taking the knee or not. the england football team have been discussing whether they will or they won't for the qatar world cup. take a look at what cup. let's take a look at what you've the you've saying. mike says the england and premier league players should not the knee keep social justice activism out of sport southgate has made football divisive , ben says football divisive, ben says since england started taking the knee, they've lost more matches than won against taken the news of pointless gesture, a in qatar it will mean nothing. well, keep

your thoughts coming . always your thoughts coming. always good to hear what you think. but now it is time for our great british debate hour. and british debate this hour. and i'm this opens i'm asking does this opens autumn statement benefit you at all? yesterday, the delivered his plans to get the economy on track. as he acknowledges, track. and as he acknowledges, the uk is already in recession. now as part of statement, jeremy hunt has reduced to the threshold for the higher rate of income tax from threshold for the higher rate of income tax fro m £150,000 to just income tax from £150,000 to just over 125,000. the state pension benefits and tax credits will rise in line with inflation by more than 10. millions of households will more in energy bills from april. the typical bills from april. the typical bill rising from two and a half thousand pounds, 3000 as the government reduces the level of support and energy firms will be hit . an expanded windfall tax of hit. an expanded windfall tax of 35. that's up 10% from 25. and the chancellor has to protect the chancellor has to protect the poorest and please this plan will help rebuild economy labour

were quick to criticise his autumn rachel rees and the economic mess was as a result of 12 weeks of conservative chaos and 12 years of conservative economic failure. a reaction across . the political spectrum across. the political spectrum was somewhat astonishing . was somewhat astonishing. unsurprisingly, the metro ran story of you've never had so bad . of course, the daily mirror also described the statement as con edge. however growing numbers of right leaning also appeared also be angry with the budget . appeared also be angry with the budget. daily mail appeared also be angry with the budget . daily mail attacked the budget. daily mail attacked the budget. daily mail attacked the budget on middle earners and strivers were slammed with tax hikes and the telegraph compared it to the of osborne with the policies of gordon brown and while speaking dan wootton yesterday professor patrick bamford, who was one of lizz truss biggest backers on the high growth mini budget, called the autumn statement nonsense . the autumn statement nonsense. he added , you tax people up to he added, you tax people up to the eyeballs. they're going to demand higher wages, which will actually make worse. and anyway,

the inflation's going to come down of its own because commodity prices are reverse now. so, you know, all the sort of reasons they're giving a nonsense and what they're doing is on basis of very bad reasoning . they're hedging the reasoning. they're hedging the economy really when they to be supporting it. so for economy really when they to be supporting it . so for the great supporting it. so for the great british debate this hour i'm asking, does the autumn statement benefit you? well, i'm joined by the ceo of competition and international trade advisors, frank singham . okay, advisors, frank singham. okay, shankar, so the budget , it shankar, so the budget, it didn't look quite what is your view on it was it wasn't the right thing they going the right way so i think they would argue this is a fiscal statement and it's intended to ensure the fiscal house is in order. my concern here is that you're there's a danger that you sort of throw the baby out with the bathwater. and because the market's reaction to the to the mini budget , that what we're mini budget, that what we're seeing is very much back to the

old orthodoxy of that. the only levers you can really pull. austerity you know cuts in pubuc austerity you know cuts in public sector spending or tax rises and that's all you have. and unfortunately the problem is that that's not the problem with the uk economy the problem with the uk economy the problem with the uk economy the problem with the uk over the long term has been a lack of growth and the levers you should be pulling all the levers that generate economic activity and that is principally regulated reform . to principally regulated reform. to some extent you want to do something about the tax burden which is it's incredibly high in the and if you make it higher if you make it worse for people then you know i have some sympathy for what just played in patrick statement that you're just going to discourage investment in the uk and you're going to discourage people from coming to the uk and you're going to encourage people leaving the uk and going to

places that where they're not facing such a high tax rate and so on. so i hope that they're not throwing the out with the bathwater. i hope we are to now see some concrete regulatory reform proposals that lower the costs that make things cheaper for people . but that's all for people. but that's all focussed on growing the economy and creating economic. focussed on growing the economy and creating economic . but we've and creating economic. but we've ihave and creating economic. but we've i have to say we haven't seen very much sign that at the moment . mm. very much sign that at the moment. mm. i've very much sign that at the moment . mm. i've also got the moment. mm. i've also got the fuel duty rises. i mean what does that ultimately mean. is it seems like they're literally going to just jump the price quite quickly for next and april . yeah. well they've, they've said it's not government policy to do that, but there has been reporting of that potential increase in april . and again, increase in april. and again, it's the it's the same sort of thinking is the way we solve problem is to increase the sort of static revenues that come into the treasury without

recognising that actually it's dynamic growth generates far more revenue to the treasury. i think i'd i sense you know in previous interview that one of my colleagues is rob portman. he was the former head of the office of management and budget in the us and he he would say that see the effect of that once you see the effect of growth sort of growth the economy it sort of sees red ink washed . and you sees red ink washed. and you know you see that massive impact even very small amounts of on the economy. so you know, i think very there with a with a very toolbox on all of this it's a fiscal macroeconomy , a a fiscal macroeconomy, a toolbox. and they're ignoring the very real microeconomic levers that they actually do have. but reform is difficult. and you need to plan it. and i think lizz truss discovered that you if you don't plan for it. well then then you'll be sort of besieged by those who don't want reform . and that will be

reform. and that will be extremely damaging for you. so you you know, there's not much time left to a lot of this . you time left to a lot of this. you know, the uk left the eu with the deal in back , you know, 2020 the deal in back, you know, 2020 that there's a lot we could have done then and now and we haven't really done any of it. so certainly you know , we seem to certainly you know, we seem to be following you said the same old orthodoxy stay there because i'm also joined by former minister for europe, denis macshane. okay then is the autumn statement good news or bad news? what do you think? it's certainly news, it's certainly good news, i think labour on the whole. think for labour on the whole. but jeremy overnight to take 2.6 million people who aren't paying tax now and make them taxpayers to pay for some of sunak's management is very tacky stuff this of treasury finances overall just a broad failure of the last ten years of austerity i think you know we're coming up that time for change but in politics irrespective of the

qualities of sir keir starmer or rishi sunak, when labour probably is going to be the largest next election, certainly this helps . just read all the this helps. just read all the papers this morning i mean a total of 12. what would labour have done differently? because labouri have done differently? because labour i mean , they literally labour i mean, they literally they signed off all things. so they signed off all things. so they were awful as truss's ideas apart from the obviously the high they were high rate then they they were they've in agreeing to they've been in agreeing to a lot of this anyway . so what lot of this anyway. so what would different now . am would they do different now. am i front . i'm would they do different now. am i front. i'm just i on the labour front. i'm just wondering the shadow wondering what the shadow cabinet. know. cabinet. well would know. started pool i to some of started as a pool i to some of the institute of fiscal made clear the first big mistake was george imposing a which stopped british growth not quite there but compared to the rest of europe very fast . there's a europe very fast. there's a second point which labour could discuss . but listen, we'll carry discuss. but listen, we'll carry on with second point. i'm going to come back , shankar, very to come back, shankar, very briefly . shankar. okay. so briefly. shankar. okay. so instead of what done, because you talked about the that obviously they're using the same

old treasury orthodoxy , how old treasury orthodoxy, how could we potentially get out of because they didn't do anything for people with either. so there was nothing there so it doesn't seem to be anything there for anyone. seem to be anything there for anyone . no i think the first anyone. no i think the first thing you need to do is diagnose why. we're in this situation in the first place because i think the first place because i think the sort of playbook that they seem putting is the seem to be putting is the playbook of the of post global financial crisis , you know, financial crisis, you know, where we were also out of a deep global slowdown and recession. but the reasons why we're in this place are different from those , you know, obviously, you those, you know, obviously, you shut the global economy down the way that we have done for two, for two years. and print vast amounts of money, 500 billion on covid recovery and expect nothing to happen. i mean, it was pretty clear that we were going to be hitting a big global recession as a result. this and many of us have been talking about this for quite time,

about this for quite some time, so you know that that is the problem that's the reason you're in this in mess. you need to focus on generating private sector economic activity again because you've you know, gets government that has slowed that activity it's not because you know there was some kind of slowdown the business cycle or something of that nature so i think you need to figure out what are the tools in my toolbox that are going to stimulate that kind of economic activity and growth. and it really about stimulating more competition in the in the uk market and regulatory reform . okay. well regulatory reform. okay. well let me come to tennis because you as you were talking, you alluded to the papers being pretty much has offered them that none of them are in support of it at all. there doesn't seem to be much going for it. i'm trying to find some positive in it. do you see positive in it? apart from the fact it's so bad that may push that it means labour may push ahead , let's leave that to one ahead, let's leave that to one side. kind hard we won't side. it's kind of hard we won't see. that disappoints me. i'm

told i was by car sort of boring old diesel per show four or five years ago. i decided was a sign from up above that i should go green . i've got a car for four green. i've got a car for four or five years. bob seger getting one natural tourist to get electric vehicle and. he's just put a tax to put put rohtak. so that's just discourages who might think of saying right i'll make my you'll contribute should to global warming i'll go electric i just don't understand it completely but they walk in terror of their own backbenchers a door to open a debate but you could unlock you could unlock trade tomorrow so if you started competing europe with 70% of all our small medium enterprises simply stop trading with europe of the boris johnson rishi sunak red tape that is a deregulatory measure that would really kick start the economy . why don't start the economy. why don't they do that? i mean , be frank they do that? i mean, be frank about it. i mean, why didn't

they get rid of the red tape? isn't that what liz truss wanted to but of course, they got to do? but of course, they got rid of her because she didn't quite sing from the song sheet. rid of her because she didn't qmean,1g from the song sheet. rid of her because she didn't qmean, what?1 the song sheet. rid of her because she didn't qmean, what? why song sheet. rid of her because she didn't qmean, what? why songhaveet. rid of her because she didn't qmean, what? why songhave they i mean, what? why why have they not shankar well, not done that? shankar well, dennis makes interesting points that i want to just focus which, which is the barriers that are faced by british business and by the uk to, to europe . and the uk to, to europe. and actually i there are reasons for this. so you know if the uk people voted to leave the eu then you need to do that, you need to deliver on that in the way that minimises the damage that and the disruptions which all the barriers that dennis was referring to and you to maximise the opportunities, you'll see both of those things at the same time. so that is you have the trade policy agenda . there's a trade policy agenda. there's a lot of trade deals that we've been able to do that we would not have been able to do inside the eu because the baggage the eu because of the baggage that brings the the eu that brings to the table. the eu is years to do deals is taking 20 years to do deals with with and so with mercosur, with india and so forth. still don't have one forth. they still don't have one with many of these countries . so

with many of these countries. so the uk has some opportunities there and it to minimise the disruptions. that's border management which we need to really on and we also need to agree with the eu and the problem have here is we need to take the trade agreement that we have and it has to be a trade agreement in order for to have these other advantages the these other advantages of the regulatory able to regulatory that you were able to prevent . you to then prevent. and you need to then talk to the eu about deepening that trade agreement, which we do with all of our trading partners, every trade point. well, let me let me bring dennis in last word , because in sort of a last word, because we got much time we haven't got much time left. i want dennis, i really want to bring dennis, i really don't to turn this into don't want to turn this into brexit. here brexit. honestly, we're not here for but george eustice, for that. but george eustice, i used debate him, was used to debate with him, he was a guy he a tory mp, a a ukip guy then he a tory mp, a minister said the australia trade deal is a disaster for british farmers . so liz truss british farmers. so liz truss panicking saying i want to side trade, deal, side way to shop, we need a tougher approach. we also need a friendly approach . also need a friendly approach. had six or seven years of all our press and boris johnson

sneering at macron sneering at europe. let's that down let's see what we might be able to work out and some more export and trade throughout british is what increases wealth we cut the oh well exactly we know that trade increase wealth but high taxes.i trade increase wealth but high taxes. i don't think they do it. dennis shane former labour minister europe thank you so much and see jim ceo of commentary and international trade advisor. thank you so much. if you're just joining me just fast approaching 34 minutes after 4:00, this news. after 4:00, this is tv news. we're online and we're live on tv online and digital we are the digital radio. we are the people's channel now. we'll continue great british continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, does autumn benefit you? does this autumn benefit you? you'll thoughts of my panel you'll hear thoughts of my panel of author broadcaster . of author and broadcaster. hamilton broadcast from hamilton also broadcast from journalist danny kelly. stay with me because it's only it's time for friday focus and the chancellor forwarded his proposal to certain areas in england mayors that says the windsor report found that london mayor khan failed to mayor sadiq khan failed to follow due process for ousting former metropolitan police commissioner dick. so i'm asking

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it's just fast approaching 40 minutes after 4:00. welcome back. if just tuned in, where have you been? this is gb news. we are the people's . have you been? this is gb news. we are the people's. i'm not a acquit and it's for our great british debate. this i'm asking, does this autumn statement benefit you ? now, yesterday, the benefit you? now, yesterday, the chancellor delivered , his plans chancellor delivered, his plans to get the economy back on track as he acknowledges that the uk is already in recession and that as part of this autumn's now as part of the statement jeremy

hunt has reduced the threshold for the higher rate of income fro m £150,000 to 125. the state from £150,000 to 125. the state pension benefits and tax credits will in line with inflation by more than 10, million of households will pay more in energy bills from april. the typical bill rising from two and a half thousand pounds to , 3000 a half thousand pounds to, 3000 as the government reduces the level of support and energy firms will be with an expanded windfall tax of 35. that's 10% and the chancellor's vow to protect the poorest believes his will help rebuild the economy . will help rebuild the economy. so reaction across the political spectrum is somewhat astonishing . the metro manchester city of you've never had it so bad whilst the daily mirror sort of a left leaning press also described the statement as carnage. however a growing number of right leaning papers appear to be angry with . the appear to be angry with. the budget. take the daily mail, for example . attack the budget on example. attack the budget on how middle earners, strivers and strivers a slammed with tax hikes . and then, of course, the

hikes. and then, of course, the telegraph, which compared it to the of osborne with the the rhetoric of osborne with the policies of gordon brown . so if policies of gordon brown. so if the british debate this the great british debate this hour does autumn hour asking does the autumn statement you. let's see statement benefit you. let's see what my panel make that i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster journalist christine hamilton and broadcasterjournalist and broadcaster journalist and entrepreneur. probably a lot worse off now. danny kelly , just worse off now. danny kelly, just real. i've just got the story. i worse off. i start with the economy. okay so small . of economy. okay so small. of course i am a vat registered limited company. yep and i've just read the news that the dividend . so my account. i don't dividend. so my account. i don't understand how it works. i'd pay someone , look after my finance someone, look after my finance and everything is above board. no evasion . so i've just no evasion. so i've just discovered my dividend allowance will cut from 2000 to 1000 next year and. then in 2024, it will be 500. so i think how this ltd companies i have big turnover well in excess th e £85,000 well in excess the £85,000 threshold and so after my

turnover on my profit because i'm a used car dealer then there's certain amount swing left , car there's certain amount swing left, car preload there's certain amount swing left , car preload control. of left, car preload control. of course there's a certain amount that i course there's a certain amount thati can course there's a certain amount that i can as a director of a company i can pay myself. and i think tax free. so let's just say there's two grand a dividend. well that's good. i think it's tax free. i'm not sure or it's taxed at a lower look. an look. well, i'm not an accountant . just give us this accountant. just give us this database because the benefit is going to halved next year and you'll be glad to know that hell, the year that's going to be halved again. so you will be earnings this month. i will be quite large business model, but with profits . i think with smaller profits. i think that's how it works. i'll have to speak to accountants . i think to speak to accountants. i think that's how it works because you should accountant well should an accountant on. well it's bit of swings and roundabouts i mean let's look at the i am the positive side i am a pensioner so thank you very much my state pension will go up but let's didn't go let's look at it. it didn't go up year. so we're playing let's look at it. it didn't go up up ear. so we're playing let's look at it. it didn't go up up so: so we're playing let's look at it. it didn't go up up so that'se're playing let's look at it. it didn't go up up so that'se'rebigaying let's look at it. it didn't go up up so that'se'rebig deal. catch up so that's no big deal. no, i should be vastly no, i'm sure i should be vastly worse off with all the energy

pnces worse off with all the energy prices going up. i the chancellor actually said and going to read it to get it right. he said conservatives know that high tax economies damage enterprise and erode . how damage enterprise and erode. how can he say that i do the exact opposite in 55 days we have gone from lizz truss 30 billion tax cuts to hunt 30 billion tax rises. i mean, it's so much deeply tory budget. imagine annabelle and the other thing i read recently this morning was that electricity consumer , which that electricity consumer, which is a pretty good yardstick of, of how society is doing , gone of how society is doing, gone down by 20% since 2005. now i find that quite extraordinary. if the economy is booming and throbbing, etcetera etcetera, throbbing, etcetera etcetera, throbbing, the economy, the electrical consumption has gone down by percent. that means people people like you, you're not using machines. this maybe that's because machinery is more effective , reduces the effective, reduces the assumption that that may be it. but it's supposed to be one of

the indicators of whether the economy is booming. but i mean, is the most extraordinary budget . chancellor bring in? . a tory chancellor bring in? i mean, i'll tell you what, really mean, i'll tell you what, really me it wasn't actually hunt, but what you can hardly tell the difference between hunt and sunak they're both global gloved puppets. there sunak sitting with trudeau . yeah, hell of a with trudeau. yeah, hell of a lot of demure. it's justin and rishi saw see that they saw that sick making . did you not see it sick making. did you not see it for a it they would send a message oh that's olinsky zelinski and i promise you they were sitting there like a couple six from a hell of a lot of me. i you heard rishi and, and i just, don't think they just, i just don't think they understand reality , they're understand reality, what they're putting think they what putting on us. i think they what they live in is a bubble where it's you'll be fine . it's okay, you'll be fine. everything i would everything will be fine. i would like this is actually like them and this is actually rishi you're would you rishi if you're i would like you to live the shoes of somebody, not your providers, but the not your providers, but in the shoes somebody actually shoes of somebody who actually lives in that middle lives and works in that middle class i'd see you see class. i'd like to see you see if you could live you've if you could live on what you've just forward to everybody just put forward to everybody and that they want

and the fact that they want us all go electric as well with all to go electric as well with electric they're electric cars and they're talking charging talking about the charging points. understand points. i just don't understand why realise , oh, why they don't realise, oh, jeremy's this money jeremy's saying all this money now charging now there'll more charging points and blah blah. points and blah blah blah. and obviously bring in obviously he's going to bring in the obviously vehicle excise duty now for people with electric in 2020 and it's like does he not understand that if they go to stop the production of diesel and petrol cars by 2030, i think it is then they're expecting to be able to afford and buy cars which none of us have. and buy cars which none of us have . we haven't got the money have. we haven't got the money off . this is not have. we haven't got the money off. this is not the case. they're not they're stopping selling brand petrol or electric cars. selling brand petrol or electric cars . so quality the only cars. so quality the only alright used cars are still going to be available because diesel and petrol . but why diesel and petrol. but why should we have to be going that way . i'll be needing should we have to be going that way. i'll be needing a should we have to be going that way . i'll be needing a new seen way. i'll be needing a new seen my bless my little switch and see what it's done 170,000 miles clinton . wilson said it was some clinton. wilson said it was some sort of miracle that's done that. but it's amazing what it's done that bought it from you

just knew. and i'm just kind of knew. and i'm thinking, going to thinking, i'm going to have to get some point. get another car at some point. i don't one. don't don't want electric one. i don't want electric car. you want want an electric car. you want to buy a big landrieu me don't you. what you said range you. what you said to me a range rover i've one for sale. rover and i've got one for sale. 11 beautiful gorgeous. 11 grand. beautiful gorgeous. it's not a selling . it's really it's not a selling. it's really . yes, it's like it goes . it . yes, it's like it goes. it seems to me that the chancellor the prime minister, have delivered some sort of mediaeval health treatment to the like leeches and bleeding, whereas in fact what they should be doing is giving small businesses, i mean, the lifeblood of this country, people like small businesses, medium sized business, they should be giving them the fresh air of free enterprise, not taxing them up to the hilt. i mean, borrowing is costing . it to the hilt. i mean, borrowing is costing. it is i've to the hilt. i mean, borrowing is costing . it is i've written is costing. it is i've written off is costing. it is i've written of f £500 million a day now that off £500 million a day now that is absolutely dead money. it's we could be spending on all sorts of other things it's mine and what about hs2 let's the elephant in the room what bill about scrapping hs2 will be

elephant. oh well that's a blue elephant. oh well that's a blue elephant. i mean this is nothing that you and let's welcome our great british on to the show your chance to tell us what you think about the topic explain discussing what should we head over to the south the north—west. so you go bolton north—west. so you go to bolton . going bolton . and . that's going to bolton. and let's jess gill at gb let's speak to jess gill at gb news voice . hello, jess. thank news voice. hello, jess. thank you so much for us. well, let's say, first of all, as has the best budget benefited you in any way shape or form ? no, way shape or form? no, absolutely not. as a young person feel completely betrayed by this budget . it's quite by this budget. it's quite frankly, a budget for the boomers , i think when we talk boomers, i think when we talk about this budget when the statement is taking money away from the hardworking young people of this nation and giving it to handouts for pensioners we have the highest tax burden of 70 is estimated that would 70 years is estimated that would be 7% poorer in 2025 and it leaves young people penniless houses and childless. meanwhile we have to foot the bill for boomers who receive support, pensions, nhs and a load of

pensions, more nhs and a load of other benefits. why is this that? why is this? i'm not sure that? why is this? i'm not sure that when considering one in four pensioners millionaires , i four pensioners millionaires, i don't think that's fair. four pensioners millionaires, i don't think that's fair . you don't think that's fair. you know, it isn't fair at all and they never mentioned anything about mortgage either. young people getting on the housing . people getting on the housing. what are thoughts on that ? what are your thoughts on that? i mean, it's not reality for most young they don't consider how many house we all we can't even afford rent never mind saving for another house and no matter how many netflix subscriptions have subscriptions we have to council, not to council, it's not going to change listen , jess, change. well, listen, jess, thank you so much for your contribution . just feel she's a contribution. just feel she's a great british voice it's the first time as well. thank you, jess. first time as well. thank you, jess . nicely done. well, let's jess. nicely done. well, let's have at what you've have a quick look at what you've been says been saying, christine. it says we we never get we pay the tax, but we never get the benefits. the statement benefit. better benefit. the statement better benefit. the statement better benefit . it's true. the benefit us. it's true. the middle class always pay the taxes. don't ever get anything out gordon says delivered two out of gordon says delivered two blokes. no one voted for i can't see lasting for two more years with these policies and council tax tax she's rich tax council tax she's rich

blokes i might add to multi—millionaires. one almost a billionaire , tony says. i'm very billionaire, tony says. i'm very glad that people whose electric cars have to pay me to. and there's a lot of someone , people there's a lot of someone, people out there, look at me think better than the less smug on the use the roads just as much as they create the potholes cos i should for the sexism about land and the roads it's just, it's going government. yeah. going kill government. yeah. yeah. of which goes on the yeah. some of which goes on the roads. some of it. of it. roads. some of it. some of it. yes, yes. be paying road yes, yes. they'll be paying road tax really. yeah. tax anyway so really. yeah. yeah. know that was yeah. well you know that was always happen. always going to happen. it's always going to happen. it's always the cards, but sooner always in the cards, but sooner they thought, now you're with me. a square welcome on me. i'm not a square welcome on board. is gb news live on board. this is gb news live on tv digital right tv online and on digital right after? inside after? the break, it's inside ukraine. president volodymyr zelenskyy , he wasn't responsible zelenskyy, he wasn't responsible . the explosion, a polish in a poush . the explosion, a polish in a polish town that killed two people, insisting that there was evidence of russian traces in the blast. well, state nato claims , it was likely a claims, it was likely a ukrainian missile. i'll be joined by a political commentator that is on the way after this break.

good afternoon . this is gb news. good afternoon. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. good afternoon. this is gb news. i'm nana akua . welcome on board i'm nana akua. welcome on board where? live on tv online and on digital radio . now it's time for digital radio. now it's time for inside ukraine, where we give you all the latest from. the russian conflict nato have claimed that the missile that landed in poland was a ukrainian weapon , a volodymyr zelenskyy weapon, a volodymyr zelenskyy asserting that they were russian traces in the blast. i'm now in the studio by political correspondent anthony armstrong. danny, talk to me about this missile strike a nato nato a sort of corroborating concept . sort of corroborating concept. actually, it was a ukrainian missile. well, yeah , this week missile. well, yeah, this week we've seen the fourth and fifth waves of bombing russia in ukraine, and the fourth was the largest since the start of the war. that was on tuesday. that

was when the missile landed or exploded in the village of appears a lot of in poland which is around four miles over the border from . now initially it border from. now initially it was reported that it was a russian missile . later russian missile. later inspection analysis of the fragments of the exploded missile have found it is probably a sw 300 defence missile fired by ukraine. now how do they know that they. because they have said that the traces of a russian missile . so traces of a russian missile. so how do they know that? well, they may a little bit of confusion. it was built in the 19705, confusion. it was built in the 1970s, of course, when everything was together in the soviet union and there could be some confusion over that . let's some confusion over that. let's make no mistake about it. if there wasn't russia's invasion into ukraine, this effort would have happened. the fault, of course. that's without question. the question whether there was intent for russia to endanger the safety a nato member state, and that is of been it hasn't been proven for and it doesn't

look likely because . well they look likely because. well they don't want it would it could it potentially because to me potentially be because to me i look potentially cover look at it potentially a cover up don't up because nato don't particularly nobody wants world war three poland don't want more world war three. we all want to believe that that would have been accident. been an accident. but irrespective whether it i irrespective of whether it is, i remember saying remember the very clearly saying that any of those missiles that if any of those missiles set foot on any part of set any foot on any part of nato's so that there will be consequences. should consequences. there should consequences. there should consequences with that. that's very . now, have always very true. now, nato have always been very aware of those red lines for russia. the red lines , one of the main reasons why there was an invasion is because nato couldn't confirm the ukraine wouldn't join ukraine or georgia wouldn't join the alliance. now, this, of course would a huge red line course would be a huge red line if it was intended attack on nato member states. the reason why i don't think it is because it was article five that would be invoked, which means that if there is an attack on a nato member state, the nato members can retaliate. now that would have triggered three , world war have triggered three, world war whereas there is the article four, which means that would

would it have triggered the solution? would it have triggered three or triggered world war three or would vladimir triggered world war three or woulc his vladimir triggered world war three or woulc his tracks? vladimir triggered world war three or woulc his tracks? becauseidimir putin his tracks? because i think is that after the war think the is that after the war was actually i don't think that vladimir putin has gall to vladimir putin has the gall to do think that if an do that. i think that if an element of russian soil was damaged response to this , i damaged as a response to this, i think have to think think he would have to think twice he's doing twice about what he's doing because yes and because he was warned. yes and no, entirely true and no, that's entirely true and entirely i've said many entirely because i've said many times on this program that the threat of nuclear war benefits vladimir putin especially and everybody anybody who has warheads than actual nuclear war. now, article four, which have been invoked and which poland was ready to invoke, would have seen just a diplomatic. it would have been a concern for the security of nato member states. and we could have had just a sit down and talk about it. but there was nothing of could have could of that. we could have we could seriously need seriously said, look, you need to back now after that. to back off now after that. get out of there. otherwise what? coming for you. if we'd said something ukraine, something back out of ukraine, we you out within this time. if you're there, will you're not there, then we will start working some bits of

start working on some bits of your own country. that's your own country. well, that's true, and true, but we means nato and nato. course, as we they do. nato. of course, as we they do. they talk tough, but they never come through . is there any point come through. is there any point then to nato at it when then to nato if look at it when it actually comes to it actually comes down to it, when comes to the wider when it comes down to the wider issue of the nato members was added two people died added actually two people died in as a result of in poland as a result of vladimir putin's on ukraine irrespective whether it was a shell from a russian ukrainian weapon. the fact is that would never have happened had it not had that huge barrage bombard on the ukraine. surely know that is very true. however we come back to the article 5, the time that has ever been invoked in the history of it, having been part of nato's constitution, is 911 and of course, to polish citizens dying in a village. of course it's tragic, but it's never going to be about article 5, and it wouldn't have to world war three it. now, whether this point tonight will or not. that's well, that's another. right. well, i'm joined by ukraine mp cara joined now by ukraine mp cara ruddick. cara thank you so much for joining me. now, kiera . tell

forjoining me. now, kiera. tell us about this missile us a bit about this missile strike poland . hello. thank strike on poland. hello. thank you so much for me. well, indeed , it's very hard to concentrate now because the investigation , now because the investigation, our in order to end , there are our in order to end, there are teams from nato countries , teams from nato countries, including ukrainian experts, who working to figure out what happened. working to figure out what happened . we, of course , our happened. we, of course, our condolences to two polish farmers who were killed by their rocket , poland is one of farmers who were killed by their rocket, poland is one of our strongest allies in this war. however, i want to make sure that everybody understands , no that everybody understands, no matter what the investigation shows the result of that and. there's something that happened is a result of russian attack on our cities . and this is critical our cities. and this is critical the important to remember that the important to remember that the best output of this and the best reaction from the top is

not even invoking chapter four, chapter five or something else that. chapter five or something else that . people were saying, but that. people were saying, but you do the thing that we have been asking for a while, give us additional air force protection systems , because you have enough systems, because you have enough of those systems, we will be able to prevent russian missiles hitting our cities homes, but also we will able to prevent potential incidents like the one that happened with poland . so no that happened with poland. so no matter what what was there. additionally force protection systems will allow to stop something like this . and that's something like this. and that's interesting. we're at it. nobody's really talking about doing that. and perhaps those the powers that be, if they're listening, could listen to what you're saying and assist you. i don't see what the downside to that would be. why is it that they're keeping these things ? they're keeping these things? you see issue that since the you see the issue that since the beginning the war although everybody was super supportive to us and but the of the weapons

is coming very late so between the statement and the politician is making that that somebody supporting ukraine and time when the weapons are arrived to our soldiers to army it could take like or four months and still on nine months of war a western allies are reactive to putin, not proactive. so for example after this terrible missile hits on ukraine that happened during last couple of weeks, president biden went forward and, said that they are giving us additional air force protection systems, but is a little bit too late . as of right now, 50% of late. as of right now, 50% of our infrastructure here is destroyed, which means that basically large cities, the kyiv kharkiv, they are out of electric for weeks right now , electric for weeks right now, smaller cities as well. and there no running water because it depends on electricity and

there was first snow in kyiv yesterday. so we are basically the winter right now and the heating situation is also dire. something needs to be done. kara you know, hopefully the powers that be will be listening and, be getting on with protecting ukraine because this continue to care about it. thank you so much about it. she's a ukrainian mp. i also had done it out of the joining me is gb joining me with me this is gb news come in the next news more to come in the next hour. houn this is good news but live on tv and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . for the next hour, me and akua. for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up in friday, focus will be shining spotlight on the chances. do you evolution deals. that's all with regard to the new mayors across the uk for the great british debate this. even possible debate this. is it even possible to solve migrant crisis that's

on the way after your latest news headlines . good afternoon. news headlines. good afternoon. it's 5:00. i'm alex porter in the gb newsroom. labour leader sir keir has accused the government locking the country into an econo mic doom loop. the comments , the chancellor's comments, the chancellor's autumn statement yesterday . autumn statement yesterday. meanwhile, the institute for fiscal is warning the full in livingston will be the largest since records began. jeremy hunt has defended his plans as the right thing to do. but sir keir says, the fiscal measures will hurt the most vulnerable. the government yesterday having done huge damage to the economy , has huge damage to the economy, has gone after working people again , stealth taxes and council tax and done nothing about non—dom status. the super rich are paying status. the super rich are paying their taxes in this country and they've got plan for growth. so they're looking see they do more loop we would have put a plan for growth on the table that actually runs towards

the challenges of tomorrow a sexual predator has admitted to the murder of law graduate ciara euna the murder of law graduate ciara elina who was brutally kicked and stamped then left for dead. jordan mcsweeney also admitted to sexually assaulting zara euna to sexually assaulting zara elina as she walked home from a night out in east london last summer. the 35 year old from dagenham was by passers by with severe head injuries. she later died hospital. mcsweeney had only been released from prison and had targeted more than one woman before. detective chief inspector dave williams says the police are committed to tackling violence against women . jordan violence against women. jordan mcsweeney has pleaded guilty today to the most serious . mcsweeney has pleaded guilty today to the most serious. his a very dangerous individual and guilty plea today means that he is certain to serve a considerable period of time behind bars civil servants in the home office border force department of transport and

defra not take industrial action in a dispute over pay. the pcc union has been calling for a 10% pay union has been calling for a 10% pay rise for its members, but this rejected by the government. it's planning one month of what it calls sustained industrial action mid december, which will affect ports borders and other areas of transport. from malware , have also announced a further series of strikes in the run up to christmas. the communication workers union will walk out on six dates in december include using christmas eve. that's in addition the four days coming up over the next two weeks. royal mail has called the action damaging the football supporters association has criticised liz qatar over its u—turn on alcohol. it comes after announced that there will not be sold the islamic countries world cup stadiums. the fsa criticised the timing of the decision , the timing of the decision, which comes just two days before the tournament kicks. fans had previously told they would be allowed to drink within the ticketed perimeter of each match

venue. ticketed perimeter of each match venue . south korea . the united venue. south korea. the united states have held a joint drill in response to north korea's missile launch. the included firing against targets simulating missile launches. a senior us government official said korea had fired a missile that can hit many, many countries the world. vice president harris condemned the launch calling it a brazen violation . multiple u.n. violation. multiple u.n. resolutions . a swedish resolutions. a swedish prosecutor has said damage to the nord stream pipelines in the baltic sea september was caused an act of sabotage . an act of sabotage. investigators have found traces of explosives at the site of . of explosives at the site of. the damaged gas pipelines linking , the damaged gas pipelines linking, russia and germany. swedish and danish authorities are investigating four holes on both nord stream one and two lines. russia has claimed british navy personnel responsible. allegations mod denies the royal air force says

it's found unacceptable and the red hours after allegations of sexual assault , bullying and sexual assault, bullying and misogyny. the force said the investigation had found criminal activity. but action had been taken including dismissals. it's more than 40 members of staff gave evidence. the inquiry. more than 40 members of staff gave evidence. the inquiry . the gave evidence. the inquiry. the team has since received training in unacceptable behaviour . the in unacceptable behaviour. the of a luxury hotel in kent has told gb news he rejected government offer to house asylum seekers because he wasn't prepared to make his redundant. in an exclusive interview, richard martin , who owns the richard martin, who owns the blazing donkey hotel near , said blazing donkey hotel near, said he was offered over million pounds for a one year contract. he said he couldn't think of anything more absurd and didn't want to let down his community. that on his venue for that relies on his venue for events to with a worsening cost of living crisis. the uk's biggest retailer is offering its staff advances their pay under the tesco scheme around 280,000

workers can receive up to a quarter of their pay early . the quarter of their pay early. the supermarket chain says it will staff avoid having to take on debt with high interest . staff debt with high interest. staff are allowed advance per pay penod are allowed advance per pay period at a fee of just under £1.50. twitter temporarily closed its offices amid a wave of staff resignations . the of staff resignations. the measure was reportedly prompted by fears disgruntled staff could sabotage the company . hundreds sabotage the company. hundreds of employees believed to have quit after owner elon musk asked them to sign up for long at high intensity only . musk them to sign up for long at high intensity only. musk has them to sign up for long at high intensity only . musk has tweeted intensity only. musk has tweeted , isn't worried about the resignations because the best people, he says are staying. twitter says offices will reopen on monday . twitter says offices will reopen on monday. this twitter says offices will reopen on monday . this is gb twitter says offices will reopen on monday. this is gb news. we'll bring you more news as it happens. now it's back to nana .

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asking is further devolution of power really the way forward then for the great british to make ? are we looking at the make? are we looking at the market and asking is it even possible to solve the migrant crisis the country's top civil servant. this at the border force facilities in dover . the force facilities in dover. the ongoing migrant crisis . and that ongoing migrant crisis. and that says over 41,000 have reached british shores this year. also raising questions over where to house them. one former owner or one owner of a luxury hotel in kent rejected a £1.1 million government offer to house asylum seekers for a year. so i'm asking, is it even possible to solve the migrant crisis ? email solve the migrant crisis? email me your views gb news gbnews.uk. or tweet me at . gb news. so on or tweet me at. gb news. so on today's friday focus, it's further devolution of power really the way forward. was the budget nightmare. sorry see what

i did with that? charles the jeremy hunt announced that suffolk norfolk, cornwall and other regions in north—east will get new mayors as part of devolution deals across the country. this means that england will be governed by them . and will be governed by them. and this follows the success of what the chancellor described as the british and tory mayors of teesside the west midlands mayors introduced by labour as of their devolution policy when . they were in government. and whilst praised these mayors, one man wasn't having such a great time . london mayor sadiq khan , time. london mayor sadiq khan, who came under fire from the findings of sir tom windsor's report in. the former met police commissioner cressida. dame dame cressida dick's exit now the report found the city can't not follow due process so disputed the report at london assembly police and crime committee after it claimed that it was biased . a it claimed that it was biased. a windsor court has comment absurd . so on today's friday focus, i'm asking is further devolution of really the way forward. of power really the way forward. is jeremy hunt a nightmare? sorry couldn't help that. right.

sorry couldn't help that. right. so i gb news political reporter olivia utley was in earlier today looking at the reaction, the further devolution plans plans for devolution and in counties like suffolk and norfolk have been in the works for while now. but they've been strenuous opposition from local leaders in these areas who are worried about their own powers being diluted. so what's now is the government in westminster has come up with a compromise with , the local council leaders, with, the local council leaders, whereby they'll change the rules and instead of a directly elected mayor, as we have in london , in teeside upon suffolk london, in teeside upon suffolk and norfolk, they have a directly elected council leader . of course, some would argue that this amounts pretty much the same thing . but the worry the same thing. but the worry among opposition party leaders and local is that it won't be clear the people in suffolk should to if they have a problem. is their locally elected councillor or is it their directly elected council leader who of course may be from

a completely different . the a completely different. the reaction i've getting on the ground here is that yes people are keen in theory on more devolution for suffolk, but they're very worried that what they're very worried that what the plan will mean is their council tax will end up going up. jeremy hunt has said in the budget yesterday that council leaders can now raise council tax by up to 5% without going to a referendum meaning, meaning that those who have properties in council can tax d could see their taxes rising by up to £250 per year. so yes, devolution is popular in theory, but when the money comes out of people's wallets, it's hard to know how they react . wallets, it's hard to know how they react. hmm. i think that is olivia live opinion . yeah. when olivia live opinion. yeah. when the money comes out of people's pockets, coming of pockets, it's coming out of their pockets. right their pockets. left, right centres two days off. i think centres on two days off. i think as devolution as asking is further devolution of really the way is. of really the way forward is. jeremy hunt's plan i will do it again tonight . i'd like i'm told again tonight. i'd like i'm told by the london assembly three times the friends actually thank

you very much for joining me this morning. okay. so let's start with you and also stephen as well. thank you very much for joining me. it's my pleasure. oh, so i'm going to start with you, keith, because this is so talk to me briefly about talk to me very briefly about what to do. well, what amendment to do. well, a mayor is to someone who mayor really is to someone who can take a more strategic approach with the smaller elected bodies. quite often in london. before we had the mayor we just couldn't get the big project through. crossrail would be a classic example so that the mayor would look after or come up with the idea of i mean, i remember what's his name , boris remember what's his name, boris johnson. could i forget? johnson. how could i forget? he had garden so had wonderful garden bridge. so these come from the mayor. these ideas come from the mayor. they'll try get well. they'll try and get the well. that idea, actually. that wasn't his idea, actually. but . this strategic approach but yes. this strategic approach which in the strategic projects can come the mayor's office or any anywhere . but you need any anywhere. but you need a mayor to drive it through because . in london, we have 30 because. in london, we have 30 to councils plus the city of london and to get them to agree is almost impossible. that is a

nightmare. i can tell you, having been both of the fence. but isn't that like so many layers of power that it just gets a bit complicated, a bit messy. that's it's messy. well, that's why it's good have the local good to have the local authorities to do the local stuff . but then you need another stuff. but then you need another body, a strategic to do the strategic stuff . and let's face strategic stuff. and let's face it the government are not good at doing that regional strategic stuff . it's better you've got stuff. it's better you've got somebody in place do that. but then what is the person in place becomes a little bit too big. the boots example it the boots safe example is it because people sadiq because of people like? sadiq khan with the situation with cressida where they may cressida dick where they may potentially beyond their potentially go beyond their powers. well that is the problem. and i am in favour of strategic or regional mayors but not if we stick to the model that we have, london, which doesn't , is that the same model doesn't, is that the same model in other places that no, there are other models where. they use the leaders of councils to form the leaders of councils to form the assembly . so it depends the assembly. so it depends which model you choose . but the which model you choose. but the model in london should work. but

because there are limited powers for the assembly it doesn't work. but what is the point steve what is the point in of all of this? why do we want more mayors and more layers, bureaucracy? it's two bureaucracy? well, it's two things. go back to things. one is let's go back to 1891, but pope leo the 13th, he enunciated principle called subsidiarity . and he said subsidiarity. and he said everything that could be done locally, be done locally, because it'll engage people if actually people actually feel got a stake in it. when i first got a stake in it. when i first got elected onto the council, the last you know the of the last century you know we social we did we had schools, social services cemeteries, parks. we did the look that disappeared bit bit mostly because we are bit by bit mostly because we are the most centralised country in europe present time. now europe at the present time. now the problem is subsidiarity is , the problem is subsidiarity is, something everybody agrees with the problem is subsidiarity is, so principle everybody agrees with the problem is subsidiarity is, so principle .'erybody agrees with the problem is subsidiarity is, so principle . butyody agrees with the problem is subsidiarity is, so principle . but iny agrees with the problem is subsidiarity is, so principle . but in reality,s with in principle. but in reality, what with the what we're faced with the hospital because what hospital pass because what happened here is jeremy said you can raise the council tax by 5% that councils don't think that puts councils don't think councils like northamptonshire kent bankrupt what on kent somerset bankrupt what on earth can they do and they say we put the council tax up by 5% and get absolutely royally at the next election or we don't

put it up. and get this, you know, the result. so it's very, very difficult, as you in very difficult, as you say, in principle , everybody is in principle, everybody is in favour let's not talk favour of it. but let's not talk about ben who should and andy. there's andy burnham about ben who should and andy. thertracy andy burnham about ben who should and andy. thertracy brabin andy burnham about ben who should and andy. thertracy brabin and ndy burnham about ben who should and andy. thertracy brabin and stevejrnham and tracy brabin and steve rotherham who doing a fine rotherham who are doing a fine job. andrew think london is a very, very case. i think it's almost impossible . we've almost impossible. we've actually got a minister for london , a minister for london, a minister for liverpool, we've got a minister for the west midlands. and i think the windsor think that the windsor report has shown up some of the problems. one the problems. one of the difficulties, one of the breakage points got in breakage points we've got in london the present time now , london the present time now, keith, you were the keith, i know you were at the meeting so meeting with this report, so give a detail of what it was give us a detail of what it was about and what happened as a result. well, the report was done by sir tom windsor, and that was a report what took place during the dismissal, if you like, or the resignation of commissioner, forced resignation and were indeed. and that the conclusion that he actually said it was tantamount to pushing her

pushing her out construct dismissal was the term that he used it was tantamount to that and he was not very complimentary when the end of the session i asked him did he feel that the mayor had acted appropriately and correctly and actually made a note of some of the points he made, which is he said he felt this is tom windsor's work mine that he thought it was abuse of power it was a political ambush that short cut the process it was pre—eminent statutory pre—meditated the statutory process contrary to law and he was really very unwise to state and then as a result of that then because can just sit around and carry on with this job. well, that is the interesting thing. this report has gone to the it's for the home secretary. so it's for her make a decision as to what she do. he's made nine she wants to do. he's made nine recommend dation so she may adopt of the adopt some of the recommendations so that this

can't happen again . but can't really happen again. but of she could also refer of course she could also refer it he is the de facto it to because he is the de facto commissioner for police she could also refer to the ipc to investigate. she wasn't very good there was english. i think in politics was more easier to find a scapegoat than it is to find a scapegoat than it is to find a scapegoat than it is to find a solution to this. and what happened was after the sarah case know the sarah everard case know the wayne cousins visit , something wayne cousins visit, something had to be seen to be done . and i had to be seen to be done. and i think is where the poor think this is where the poor politics proper politics came in. a proper courageous leader have said, look, a systemic look, we've got a systemic problem actually problem here. it's actually within forces and the within the police forces and the institutional issue going right back you like. back to macpherson, if you like. we've issues , these we've got these issues, these problems and some of email problems and some of the email traffic was coming of the is traffic was coming out of the is just say that just disgusting to say that cressida actually cressida dick it was actually a decent would but well she decent job i would but well she did a good job. well it's a matter of opinion for him . the matter of opinion for him. the straw that broke camel's back was the hutton report report on the full 14 officers who were

accused of a lot of social media stuff and it because they didn't all get sacked some were actually exonerated. he was on allegedly, according to the report , tom's book, he demanded report, tom's book, he demanded that she sacked the lot of irrespective of that, she the report is that is what kind triggered it. yeah so in light all of that then. i mean stephen what do you think then. should is jeremy hunt's idea of having all these regional mayors and stuff like, well, another layer that isn't an idea there what he said we'll look at suffolk norfolk in the north—east outside you know a lot outside you know thanks a lot i just a bit of detail just have a bit of detail about that. this absolutely that. look, this is absolutely meaning is completely meaning this is completely unless the money follows policy at the present time. now i have to say, i'm very much in agreement with you that there are strategic overviews are certain strategic overviews that have done nationally. that have to be done nationally. you you can't have one you know, you can't have one council having the death penalty, other whatever. penalty, the other or whatever. you you you know, they still have, you know , but unfortunately , know, but but unfortunately, he's promised something, but he's promised something, but he's actually put his money he's not actually put his money where his mouth he's

where his mouth well, he's written ain't going to written that he ain't going to cash , but he's taking checks and cash, but he's taking checks and the coming from. our the money is coming from. our system and not april. well, system and not till april. well, not till april. well, not till april. yeah. well, stephen thank you very much. that's the that's all we now you know the story. don't think story. well, i don't think anyone is anymore. don't know. anyone is anymore. i don't know. tories you. so tories think. thank you. oh so keith prince, thank you so much for joining so what's forjoining me. right. so what's your thought on that? you your thought on that? do you think good idea in think it's a good idea in response the publication of response to the publication of so windsor's report , this is so tom windsor's report, this is what met said . londoners what the met said. londoners will be able to see that this review clearly and review is clearly biased and ignores the facts what happened was simple . i lost confidence was simple. i lost confidence in the former commissioner's ability the changes ability to make the changes needed she then chose to needed, and she then chose to stand aside londoners elected to hold the met commissioner to account. and that's exactly what i've done. i make absolutely no apology for better for london and for putting the interests of the i love first. so coming up it's the i love first. so coming up wsfime the i love first. so coming up it's time our great british debate this hour i'm asking is it even possible to solve the migrant crisis the country's top civil servant. this is the decent border force facilities

dover amid the ongoing migrant that that's over 41,000 have reached british shores year alone raising questions where to house them and what owner of a luxury hotel in kent rejected a £1.1 million government offer thousands asylum seekers. is it even possible to solve the crisis that is on way after the break .

23 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i am not a square . now channel. i am not a square. now it's channel. i am not a square. now wsfime channel. i am not a square. now it's time for our great british debate hour. i'm asking, is it even possible to solve the migrant crisis simon case, the country's most senior servant has paid a visit. country's most senior servant has paid a visit . border force has paid a visit. border force facilities at dover harbour in kent. the cabinet secretary was filmed disembarking from the border force vessel hurricane at

dover today. now, sources say that they understood it was a private visit where the of the civil service would be able to gauge the efforts by border force and military personnel to deal with the surge in people crossing the channel in small boats . and this year alone, boats. and this year alone, a staggering 41,000 migrants and counting made their way onto british source. so for the great british source. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is it even possible to solve the crisis at ed mark? mark white has more on how certain hotel owners are handung certain hotel owners are handling the migrant crisis . handling the migrant crisis. tucked away the east kent countryside is a little gem of a hotel that's won awards for its serve . it is the most unlikely serve. it is the most unlikely candidate to become the latest hotel housing asylum seekers . hotel housing asylum seekers. yet that's exactly what would have happened had they accepted

to more than have happened had they accepted to more tha n £1 million offer to more than £1 million offer from a home office contractor. this is also a popular venue for weddings and other events . owner weddings and other events. owner richard martin says the impact on the community of handing over his hotel the government would have been huge . so this is our have been huge. so this is our wedding and special events marking . it looks very marking. it looks very impressive. i have to say, richard . well, when you come in, richard. well, when you come in, you can just see actually how unsuitable. this would be for an asylum seekers venue in tyler. this is your exclusive for our special events mainly and we posted two and a half thousand in since we created this space and so for the seekers that were intended to stay here absolutely no purpose and it's a valuable asset for the for the people in this local area as well as obviously an employer of course, this space is known locally very well. and if you if you mention our name the blushing donkey locally, they just think weddings where it

weddings and this is where it all the blazing has all takes place the blazing has also been voted one of the top glamping sites in the uk. also been voted one of the top glamping sites in the uk . as glamping sites in the uk. as absurd as it sounds , these absurd as it sounds, these luxury tents and huts would also have had to house asylum seekers if the hotel had accepted the office contract and it would have meant housekeeping hirani and more than 50 other staff here in peak season would have been out of a job. but i don't think . you would get that come think. you would get that come within the they call it camaraderie that you would get here all sort of clubbing and it's really lovely . like many it's really lovely. like many people, the hotels director trevor squire lost his previous job during covid, going all that again, which he says have been unbearable for. me and also for another couple. i'm so we live here this is home. this isn't just our job. this is my home. just ourjob. this is my home. and i see it as my home. and, you know, i'm not a young man. it would have been terrifying.

with more than 42,000 people having crossed the channel small boats so far this year, the pressure on authorities trying to find them suitable accommodate is intense . but this accommodate is intense. but this luxury country is surely not what the immigration minister meant when he said channel migrants should be housed in bafic migrants should be housed in basic accommodation. mark white gb news in kent. well that's a beautiful venue. i don't think i can to go there. so for the great debate this hour, i'm asking , is it great debate this hour, i'm asking, is it even possible to the migrant crisis? is there actually will to do it? i'm joined by refugee and migrant rights programme director of amnesty international uk , amnesty international uk, stephen valdes simmons. stephen, thank you so much for joining stephen valdes simmons. stephen, thank you so much forjoining me . so i want to address the current migrant situation and the system . one of these two the system. one of these two systems simply not working . the systems simply not working. the biggest reason almost the overriding reason is that government policy has created

enormous backlog cogs in the system. so if you go back four years. the of outstanding asylum was a little . under 20,000 in was a little. under 20,000 in respect of under six months waiting. and respects of more than six month waiting was about 14,000. you look now the has quadrupled to overall. and those that are waiting more than six months and in some instances much much longer that has that just increased six fold. so you have a massive amount of claims that are not moving through the system. so people who are entitled asylum not getting out of the system and getting on with their lives . people who may with their lives. people who may not be entitled to are not getting decisions so cannot be returned. everyone is just backing up in the. and that's why anyone coming in new is coming into a system that has

collapsed and don't have a particularly increased number of people entering the system. it's true that more people come increasingly by boat than other means , and it is true that we means, and it is true that we have more claims over the last 12 months than previously but nothing like the sorts of numbers that i've just mentioned . so in your view how do we efficiently , effectively fix the efficiently, effectively fix the system ? well there are two system? well there are two urgent things . firstly, urgent things. firstly, ministers to acknowledge their ridiculous decision to simply stop processing of claims has not achieved anything useful for them or anybody else , and they them or anybody else, and they have to reverse that . they have have to reverse that. they have to get on with focusing , having to get on with focusing, having a fair and efficient asylum system that deals the claims it receives . but it's also true, receives. but it's also true, obviously but now that the system has completely broken down , there is going to need to down, there is going to need to

be an enormous amount of resource at least initially put , to the system to be to determine these claims and of course, continue to accommodate the people who've the claims belong to until such time as the system can be got back in to some sort of state of repair. also like this, david, i'm also joined by former brexit party ben habib . ben, thank you very ben habib. ben, thank you very much for joining ben habib. ben, thank you very much forjoining me. ben habib. ben, thank you very much forjoining me . what's much forjoining me. what's david saying? sounds perfectly to me. the system, it sound like there are that many more people . there just seems to be some odd situation with the processing. what do we need to be focusing to handle this crisis? i mean , is that stephen crisis? i mean, is that stephen making some very valid points there mean, stephen, there? well, i mean, stephen, indeed, the programme so far has discussed the illegal crossings , the channel purely through prism of deportations . what no prism of deportations. what no one seems to talk about and no one's prepared to talk about is the fact that border control is not equivalent to a deportation

program . indeed, a deportation program. indeed, a deportation only kicks in. border control has failed . the point is we have has failed. the point is we have non—english border control in the channel border force and not deterring and pushing these illegal crossings. the boats that are coming with bringing these people illegally , our these people illegally, our waters not pushing them back into french waters, they're not providing deterrent. there's no physical , providing deterrent. there's no physical, robust position being taken by our navy and border force. they're just acting as a taxi service to bring people from french waters . indeed, from french waters. indeed, they've been handing of these people by the french navy to the british navy , and then they're british navy, and then they're escorted , you know, effectively escorted, you know, effectively on or, you know, at the taxpayer's expense on on these fantastic boats that we have back to our shores . far from back to our shores. far from deterring these people , making deterring these people, making this dangerous, illegal crossing , we're actually encouraging

them by showing them what fantastic comfort they will once they enter our waters and they make it to our shores, then you identified earlier , get identified earlier, get fantastic accommodation , get fantastic accommodation, get free health care, free dental care . they even get given cash care. they even get given cash unless and until we're prepared to have a robust approach at our border , which is what border border, which is what border force is employed to do. we will not solve this problem, but it is eminently solvable. i completely disagree with rishi sunak when he says no silver bullet or overnight solution to this , it is eminently resolvable this, it is eminently resolvable overnight. it requires border force and the royal navy to do its job well. listen want to bnng its job well. listen want to bring steve symonds in there because stephen is saying he's talking the fact that actually they're not processing them quickly enough or doing the proper work that we should be doing, processing. then doing, processing. but then you've back to the start of you've come back to the start of it and saying that actually the border like border force acting more like a taxi would response taxi. what would your response to be, stephen? well the sad

truth is that the last four years have been all about to exactly the sorts things that ben has said in trying to increase the terror and policing and punishment of people in the hope that somehow the people who do seek in the uk will go away and they don't . and the reason and they don't. and the reason we do that, stephen, can you give me an don't go away . it's give me an don't go away. it's nothing to do with our system being any more attractive than anybody else's , as anyone can anybody else's, as anyone can see at this moment time, it's complete state of disrepair is awfully treating and lots of people. i mean, by the way, over the last couple years, the number of people who've died , number of people who've died, our asylum system has , including our asylum system has, including the number of babies who died in our asylum system has gone up. but is the system i'm afraid

steve. see that nice hotels. sorry steve which is being used for the right i'm not saying it should be but let's look let's not pretend that it's in use in our system. it's not. but there are others like it? ben well, i'm afraid is seeing this again through the whole prism of what you do with people once they're here, they shouldn't to the uk in the first place. since we're discussing deportation let's be very clear do not need ditch the european convention of human rights in order to deport these people . what we need to do is people. what we need to do is make it clear in british law that if you enter the country having crossed into it illegally , which these people have done and you've come from a safe country, which is you will be without any recourse to any judicial hearing. and it's as simple that. even the deportation program can be made to work . what is and thank you to work. what is and thank you so much for your thoughts as former brexit party mep ben and

stephen valder symons . he's stephen valder symons. he's a refugee and migrant rights programme director , amnesty programme director, amnesty international thank both for international uk. thank both for joining me. you know, with me, i'm nana akua. this is dvds live on tv online and, on digital radio, on the way to continue my great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it even possible solve the migrant crisis? you leave the thoughts of my panel, author and broadcast to christine and also christine hamilton and also broadcast journalist danny kelly. but first, let's your latest news headlines . it's 30 latest news headlines. it's 30 for i'm alex porter in the gb newsroom. labour sir keir starmer has accused the government of locking the country into an economic doom loop . the comments follow the loop. the comments follow the chancellor's autumn yesterday. meanwhile institute for fiscal studies is warning the fall in living standards will be the largest since records began . largest since records began. jeremy hunt has defended plans as the right thing to do . a as the right thing to do. a sexual predator admitted to the

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39 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news we are the people's channel. i'm a queer. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time now . our radio. and it's time now. our great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it even possible to solve the migrant crisis? simon is the country's most senior civil paid a visit to the border facilities at dover harbour kent. he was filmed disembarking from the border force vessel hurricane at dover earlier today. now, sources say that they understood that it was a private visit with the head of the civil service be would have been able to gauge the efforts underway by border force military personnel to deal with the surge in people crossing the

channelin the surge in people crossing the channel in small boats. now it's feels a bit like a little too too late. but is there actually the will to fix the problems ? the will to fix the problems? the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking is even possible solve migrant possible to solve migrant crisis. let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by christine and course, danny christine and of course, danny kelly. right saga, start with you, christine. do you feel that there's actually a will to solve there's actually a will to solve the problem. well, if the government don't a grip of this, they are toast. they're probably anyway. two huge issues. anyway. it is two huge issues. people are worried about one is the economy and how that affects them and the other is the migrant crisis. them and the other is the migrant crisis . you know, we migrant crisis. you know, we need migrants, of course , do. we need migrants, of course, do. we are producing enough our are not producing enough of our own not own babies. we're not reproducing . we need migrants, reproducing. we need migrants, but need we don't need but we need we don't need economic migrants. but we need we don't need economic migrants . we don't need economic migrants. we don't need a asylum seekers then have babies. absolutely right . we babies. absolutely right. we should be stopping them at the border . the whole should be stopping them at the border. the whole thing has just got so out of control. it almost unbelievable that it has been allowed to get this state and the amount of money we're

spending. i mean that wonderful fellow it called? the fellow what was it called? the blasted . donkey don't get blasted donkey. donkey don't get your nickname, by the way, behind it. i mean, good for him to turn down behind it. i mean, good for him to turn dow n £1,000,000 in the to turn down £1,000,000 in the next year because don't with the economy down he's going economy turning down he's going to have fewer weddings he's going so he's going to have fewer. so he's made principled made a very brave and principled decision. but i mean if the government a grip of government doesn't get a grip of this, finished. well, this, they are finished. well, it's almost laughable. i mean that it was serious if it wasn't so , you know, we'd all be so, you know, we'd all be laughing on our backs if somebody me, oh, just go somebody told me, oh, just go across could stay in across the uk, you could stay in that star hotel where all that five star hotel where all these mean, these weddings are. i mean, i don't to stay in places like don't get to stay in places like that. now proposing that. and now they're proposing just take a hotel for just to take over a hotel for these, but to pay them a million. they're mix them million. they're going mix them up guests . up with with normal guests. well, i mean, sorry, that's a bit . well, it's just not bit. well, it's just it's not even it's not against the people itself. principle it itself. it's the principle it and fact that it is a and the fact that it is not a deterrent. okay. to your question directly in my belief . question directly in my belief. my belief that unless you saturate 70 miles of french coastline with heavily armed

police or soldiers who are going to pop the dinghies. i think it is possible. ben habib. to pop the dinghies. i think it is possible. ben habib . let me is possible. ben habib. let me just turn them round . they get just turn them round. they get here. yeah, but all they're going to is launch themselves into the drink. turn them around again. they're going into the drink. turn them around aglaunch they're going into the drink. turn them around aglaunch themselves re going into the drink. turn them around aglaunch themselves intoying into the drink. turn them around aglaunch themselves into the to launch themselves into the drink. will drink. that's what they will do. that's told do. that's what they'll told to do. and imagine an and you're right. imagine an albanian drug dealer albanian tick tock drug dealer in a jacuzzi of this flaming donkey. well think. is that what i'd want to say? how ridiculous. but putting but actually, they're putting their advertising on tok their own advertising on tik tok has across. so sistani has to get across. so sistani you're saying we can't do anything it we have anything about it we just have to here. no, i'm to let them come here. no, i'm not. that's the opposite not. that's that's the opposite . saturate 70 miles of . i've said saturate 70 miles of syria coastline with police bayonets popping the dinghies the guy was wrong he that britain isn't any more attractive to asylum seekers than anywhere else. if that's the case why do they travel from nonh the case why do they travel from north africa or iraq into run to greece through italy through france. you know that's baloney. i think it's very attractive actually especially with jeremy hunfs actually especially with jeremy hunt's new budget that's

supposedly helping the people who nothing which it does actually do it says on the tin. but ultimately it doesn't help. and the those are the and those are the those are the kind of people who will be in that when come that predicament when they come here initially. well, we're clearly attractive than clearly more attractive than iraq iran. why more iraq and iran. but why we more attractive, the fact attractive, apart from the fact that the british are english, is the we more the language. why are we more attractive or any attractive than france or any other european country we shouldn't, we because shouldn't, but we are because of all handouts. i mean, the all these handouts. i mean, the amount people all these handouts. i mean, the amount get people all these handouts. i mean, the amount get phones people all these handouts. i mean, the amount get phones theyzople all these handouts. i mean, the amount get phones they get, get, they get phones they get, though get phones. though they don't get phones. they food. yes they don't get food. oh, yes they don't up. they do. no, they don't give up. no they find the no they don't find out the definitive somebody. somebody might get a phone. some they might get a phone. some say they get cos that's baloney as well. might get a phone. some say they ghaven't�*nat's baloney as well. might get a phone. some say they ghaven't heard aloney as well. might get a phone. some say they ghaven't heard cos|ey as well. might get a phone. some say they ghaven't heard cos they; well. i haven't heard cos they probably ge t £30 a week but probably get £30 quid a week but you see. listen to the round of dnnks you see. listen to the round of drinks and look of them are drinks and look none of them are reaching . yeah. true gordon. reaching. yeah. true gordon. don't phones off for the range . don't phones off for the range. that name is relative. well nobody said no trainer said no but she about but listen she said about i don't know the answer to that will out but that's not the will find out but that's not the point. you come here you're point. when you come here you're your bed and board are paid for. you food and things like

you get food and things like that. that's what's expensive. electricity, the of electricity, the cost of you mean we're talking mean that is what we're talking . we've got own sort of . we've got our own sort of military ex—servicemen. we've got our own homeless people to deal with. they're being put up in hotels . this is high life are in hotels. this is high life are not paying that seem too much of a massive transport to. but you mustn't forget that a lot of homeless living on the streets they want to be there that it's yeah that's their choice because suffering terrible ptsd suffering through terrible ptsd but that might be the case this is something that should i didn't it but that might be didn't say it but that might be the case of some. but there are a lot of people slipping through the not just that. the net. it's not just that. it's people who are living it's the people who are living in shelter accommodation. it's the are in the people who are living in council those council accommodation. those people, so people, you know, there's so many people that could many other people that we could be this manner that many other people that we could be fact this manner that many other people that we could be fact that this manner that many other people that we could be fact that we're manner that many other people that we could be fact that we're prepared, at the fact that we're prepared, the fact that we're prepared, the to the government are prepared to spend. people in hotels. spend. housing people in hotels. five star hotels on that . and five star hotels on that. and when we've got our own people queuing up at food bank bed happy i a lot of happy people i find a lot of common with . i disagree common ground with. i disagree with says just them with him when he says just them round you'll use in the

round because you'll use in the australian model nigel farage is always going on about the australian turning around and things , but you must stop things like, but you must stop them coming . yeah, no. them coming. yeah, no. well apparently told under apparently they were told under the know what the big the i don't know what the big difference that australia. yeah big difference here is the quality of the boats the sturdiness the boats can sturdiness of the boats you can turn without turn round a wooden boat without you know through the fragility , you know through the fragility, the structure falling off the boat and. also though this may sound , the reason sound trivial, but the reason that didn't throw that people didn't throw themselves drink themselves in the drink in australia a said no, australia was because a said no, that's not just very foolish, but maybe with a shock. so we should be shocked that virtually . are ? we need to . are you joking? we need to support the leaving the french in the first place. we sent another wave to me. i feel you shouldn't say . that lineker shouldn't say. that lineker would be onto you. oh, gosh. here sent here we again. we've sent another money . ask or another tonne of money. ask or stop there . sorry, you're stop in there. sorry, you're doing another piece and donkey is in full force . donkey? yes. is in full force. donkey? yes. sorry, you're talking about twitter. no, no, we've sent twitter. no, no, but we've sent another of to france, another of money to france, haven't top ? of the money haven't we? on top? of the money we'd already had something like 220 see what 220 million. let's see what

comes that. all the french comes of that. all the french just to it. but it's just to trouser it. but it's such huge. even stevens i'll just. simmons alluded to the fact you didn't think it fact that you didn't think it was right for first full was right for the first full staff. star hotels so you staff. five star hotels so you don't that you don't really that concept you get on fudged arse no get hung up on fudged arse no i don't think there's a five star hotel or for migrants this. wonderful. did you not see that all start. i just took four or five. there's a five star, naomi watts. all all five. i know, but it's not a five star. well, i'm strong. i'm saying it's either a four five. it's not it's not four or five. it's not it's not five star, but there might be others. you don't know that, but you not you don't know. it's not claiming you. i'm saying it's either all. what? that's a claim. no, it's not. oh, come on. you don't. you're arguing your bold man someone six. exactly thank you. semantics. come we every time i sing over they say are being put up in hotel is that most luxury hotels shangn hotel is that most luxury hotels shangri la it's all right let's call it that you how old are you happy with that i'm happy with luxury hotel. all right. nit picking any can't get. he hasn't

got any . the hotel i got married got any. the hotel i got married in you usually sold weddings for 2020 530 grand now houses asylum seekers yeah it's on really seriously. okay so we've the situation do you believe there a will actually to solve the problem? because i don't there is i don't feel there is. and the other of this coin is i mean, take albanian situation. albanian needs these young men albanian needs these young men albania is being deprived of young viable workforce . the young viable workforce. the young viable workforce. the young men disappearing . that's young men disappearing. that's to the detriment of that country should be staying over there. maybe they come over here if they're genuine and trained as a doctor or whatever and then go back. but we're draining like that of all the young, healthy chaps. i'll just say briefly, though, you did say, what is the draw to this country? i know, obviously, apart from the luxury hotels, which are either four or five star, either either five star, but either either let's not get stuck on that the other thing is that we actually accept a larger percentage of people who try and claim asylum in opposed

in this country opposed to the others. this is others. right. this show is nothing without your nothing without you and your visas. the great visas. welcome some of the great voices, to be voices, their opportunity to be on this show and tell us what they about the topics they think about the topics we're i've got four. we're discussing. i've got four. let's dr. moodley let's start with dr. moodley milton keynes session he what do you think about this and this whole situation . good evening whole situation. good evening nana thank you for having me and lovely to see you. it's such interesting discussion. it is a crisis , but we do need to do crisis, but we do need to do something about this migrant crisis . there are something about this migrant crisis. there are many something about this migrant crisis . there are many ways we crisis. there are many ways we can reduce backlog at the borders . we can review the borders. we can review the application at different places. for example, like in france , for example, like in france, they can review the applications of the asylum seekers . we need of the asylum seekers. we need to provide safer routes as opposed to the boats and what can happen to these asylum seekers. we also need to invest , engage the gangs and the trafficking and leaders need meet as well, not to discuss this so that we can reduce the migrants that are coming over.

okay. thank you for that session. let's go to julie fort is she's there in bedfordshire and julie, what do you think about all of this? what's your view that lovely view especially that lovely luxury hotel ? i'm not getting on luxury hotel? i'm not getting on the debate forum. five star hotels involved in that . yeah, hotels involved in that. yeah, i agree with danny and i agree with what ben said. it's going to the source of the problem and thatis to the source of the problem and that is the border control. but obviously listening to the news article that we had earlier, the civil servants border control are just looking to go on strike because they are arguing about they're not really even doing their . why should we be their jobs. why should we be paying their jobs. why should we be paying to a job? but paying them to do a job? but that's a different topic for me . don't think it's going to be a quick situation, think quick fix situation, but i think we go back and really we need to go back and really look people into look these people getting into british waters in the first place, all this money to place, sending all this money to france, that's great but they need to be doing their job france border control france and our border control and navy to be out there and navy need to be out there actually getting the done actually getting the job done and stopping people getting into british waters the first

british waters in the first place. thank very much that, place. thank very much for that, alan mcneely. he's grimsby, alan mcneely. he's in grimsby, ireland . what's your view? is it ireland. what's your view? is it possible to solve this crisis? the afternoon ? i agree with what the afternoon? i agree with what barnaby said. we should be turning them around . they turn turning them around. they turn up on our shores . there's up on our shores. there's nothing to stop us photographing them, fingerprinting , them, fingerprinting, documenting them on putting strength back on authority to francis entered a legally in terms of the accommodate issue which is really the big bind that's getting everyone up in arms . we've got a lovely land at arms. we've got a lovely land at flow we could quite easily build a nice place to keep all covered with security cleared them and they're not a threat to us to keep them up. they're out of the way. but there needs to be some of their minds that are in the fact that we know nothing about them and poses a serious threat to . the country and i, we can't to. the country and i, we can't just let them go ruling the streets because we have no who

these people are . thank you very these people are. thank you very much for that, alan. let's go to david barnaby in watford david. alan hello again. everybody brought very everyone's looking this is a long way we've discovered the tick tock it's been used by traffickers to enfice been used by traffickers to entice people to come. so what does the british do. two things. first, to stop the opposition flights to rwanda so that anyone illegal immigrant, not migrant, and illegal element is basically shoved on a flight to land and then film is put out on tiktok . then film is put out on tiktok. ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to come to the uk and, are the legal immigrant you will be ending up in rwanda . so you're ending up in rwanda. so you're saying they're supposed take some of these flight, take out. yeah, but do know it's an interesting but no flights are taking sadly so it'll be you won't let it happen so do the opposition and say we'll take them out and listen thank you so

for your thoughts fascinating. milton keynes judith bedfordshire, our linguist. and david, thank so much in watford , but not today. i've been asking, is it even possible solve the migrant crisis? lots of been getting touch of you've been getting in touch with carol says we with your views, carol says we can the government tough can if the government tough ignore courts that , hate us and ignore courts that, hate us and get the illegals out any way we can and says there is no political will to solve the illegal immigrant problem despite nowhere to put them so . despite nowhere to put them so. your thoughts coming thick and fast. now it's time for our quick fire debate, the part of the show where discuss of the the show where we discuss of the other making the other stories making the headlines. today, headlines. joining me today, author christine author and broadcaster christine hamilton , journalist, hamilton, also journalist, broadcaster entrepreneur broadcaster and entrepreneur danny kelly. right. kick danny kelly. right. let's kick off this story. a in off this story. a town in cornwall was not too happy after being named one of their toilets after , their town. everyone can after, their town. everyone can now buy a bodmin toilet and is not an uncommon occurrence. what was also named after the town of former or falmouth, found with those found to be more pleasant. so what would be upset? would

you be ever told it was named after where? thomas crapper invented the humble toilets all those years ago and that was , those years ago and that was, wasn't it? it's the cropper. it wasn't it? it's the cropper. it was would i'd be offended if a toilet was named after my with the liverpool bug . no i wouldn't the liverpool bug. no i wouldn't know about you christine. would you be . no. somebody did you be. no. somebody did actually name a loo after me . actually name a loo after me. i'm trying to remember where it was somebody has a saucepan. well, it was . i didn't know the well, it was. i didn't know the story was coming up. i rather double checked my facts, but somebody did once. and why not? my name was on door. was some my name was on door. it was some hotel . you go into the hotels hotel. you go into the hotels and they weren't supposed . yeah and they weren't supposed. yeah but other there was but some of the other there was whopping . all the asylum whopping hotel. all the asylum seekers have used it for five years in a five star hotel. right luxury. right next door is about the ongoing you know something was after me. there's something was after me. there's some sanitary towels called nana. you really got named after you. they called nine nana akua a sailor. no, not that. just none. right? there's so with this on going a mass exodus on

twitter , the staff are leaving twitter, the staff are leaving in their name is twitter. offices are shut down . hundreds offices are shut down. hundreds of staff quit due to . elon of staff quit due to. elon musk's hardcore working musk's new hardcore working culture , doing at culture, doing long hours at high intensity. this culture, doing long hours at high intensity . this is culture, doing long hours at high intensity. this is of high intensity. this is one of many since . the many changes since. the billionaire charge of the billionaire took charge of the social site. what do social media site. so what do you think ? elon getting you think? and elon musk getting rid everybody saying if you're not work hard , not prepared to work hard, you've months, you can you've got three months, you can sleep, well, he can do sleep, you hook well, he can do what he he owns the i hope what he like. he owns the i hope he up at the he will shake it up at the moment think that moment i think that the exclusion draconian and it's exclusion is draconian and it's too woke etc. so i'd like to see a lot of the people who were excluded back on that course, it's got to be moderated to a certain extent, it's his company. you know what he liked . think the world be . think the world would be a better place without the cesspit that twitter . youtube of that is twitter. youtube of course got your blue ticks course i've got your blue ticks to protect. i've never peed on it think. well, listen. it. hate to think. well, listen. well, didn't. i didn't for well, i didn't. i didn't ask for blue don't know . i've blue tick. i don't know. i've got one. i quite like having it, but i'm certainly to but i'm certainly not going to pay but i'm certainly not going to pay thing. it's pay for awful thing. well it's not data we've been asking does this statement you this autumn statement you

according twitter poll, according to our twitter poll, 13% say your benefiting 13% of you say your benefiting and 87% of you say no. it's a huge you. to my panel, broadcaster and author christine hamilton once broadcaster journalist danny carey joined , journalist danny carey joined, thank you. next up is , james thank you. next up is, james michel teams with teams in co michel. what is coming up on the show . hello, nana. yeah, i want show. hello, nana. yeah, i want to about accountability and to talk about accountability and where line should be drawn. this is after the two year old little boy died in a house that was filled mould. where should the books talk when it comes to cases like this ? and vaccine, cases like this? and vaccine, passports ? leaders at the g20 , passports? leaders at the g20, they seem to be giving the forms up to centralised database to look at who's been tested, who's being so that we can all freely around. i do not like the sound that so i want to talk about qatar as well you can't drink alcohol. i laugh because i actually found it quite amusing however many people do not many people are absolutely furious and long sick. 2.5 million and long term sick. 2.5 million people saying that they too ill to work. and we sat in the too low in terms of what constitutes

a sickness means basically that's it. you're out of the world of work what is that michel thank you so much of that looking forward to that that is on dewbs& co later on after this show. thank you all your show. thank to you for all your company. look to seeing you company. i look to seeing you tomorrow at four. i'll leave you with weather . hello. tomorrow at four. i'll leave you with weather. hello. i'm with the weather. hello. i'm aidan mcgivern from the met . the aidan mcgivern from the met. the rain eastern scotland is rain in eastern scotland is finally easing , but it's staying finally easing, but it's staying damp here for the rest the day clear spells elsewhere . as clear spells elsewhere. as a result, a chilly night to come we've got low pressure still close to the north—east of scotland and that's still bringing some weather. but rain is easing as an area of high starts to move in from the west. that's bringing clear spells already for northern ireland. much wales in the south of england. further coming in for a time overnight. england. further coming in for a time overnight . even these time overnight. even these become confined to coast and ease later the rain less heavy, less persistent across scotland, although still some damp weather and some outbreaks of light rain to the east of england overnight as well , staying frost free in as well, staying frost free in the north and east. but for

southwest scotland, northern ireland, wales in ireland, parts of wales in the southwest, a of frost first thing, northern ireland, coldest spots three spots minus two minus three celsius places and some dense celsius in places and some dense patches. first thing they'll be slow to clear and it'll be cold where those fog patches persist. otherwise bright skies for the western half of uk. cloudier conditions in east but the rain tending be light on and off. nowhere near as heavy and persistent as it's been in places a cold ish afternoon compared to what we've seen recently. it's 11 or 12 celsius in the south, eight or nine in the north, but for many it's bright skies and, largely dry until the evening when some heavy and persistent rain pushes into northern ireland reaching western wales southwest western wales in the southwest by midnight. that sweeps across country accompanied by coastal gales around parts of western scotland and northern ireland. it's replaced by showers and it's a milder night because of the breeze and the rain but cold enough for flakes of snow over the scottish mountains, perhaps the scottish mountains, perhaps the pennines as well above around four or 500 metres. the

rain pushes into the see blustery showers follows heavy downpours in the west and that's how it looks on sunday a day of sunny spells also some of these lively downpours a gusty breeze and monday sees more unsettled .

another 6:00 on michelle dewberry and this is dewbs& co. let me ask you this. the word accountability. what does that mean to you , where do you think mean to you, where do you think the bookstall , for example, when the bookstall, for example, when something goes ? the reason i'm something goes? the reason i'm asking is the head of housing association that rented out the home where that two little two year old boy was seen . the story