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of hypocrisy telling european nafions of hypocrisy telling european nations they a lot to answer for. i'm european actually am european, not just i feel european. i think for what europeans have been doing in the last 3000 years around the world should be apologising for the next 3000 years before starting to give lessons . human to give lessons. human campaigner peter tatchell told gb news. the tournament should never have been given to qatar and anyone with it risks damaging their reputation. well think it's really shameful that celebrities align themselves to be bought by the billions in order to put a positive spin on what is a sexist, homophobic and racist dictatorship . i mean, how racist dictatorship. i mean, how can david robbie williams and

all these other big stars who performing in qatar how can they have a clean conscience when they know what this regime is doing to people .7 i think it's doing to people? i think it's going to them huge, huge damage . the united is proposing a new fund to help developing countries with the cost of climate change . the money would climate change. the money would be used to compensate 134 developing nations for the loss and damage experience due to droughts, floods and wildfires. the text is to be approved by the cop 27 summit in egypt , the cop 27 summit in egypt, which had to be extended after failed to reach an agreement. the foreign secretary is warning that the threat from nuclear programme is more advanced than ever. programme is more advanced than ever . speaking at programme is more advanced than ever. speaking at a programme is more advanced than ever . speaking at a conference ever. speaking at a conference in bahrain, james stressed britain's two termination to stop the strict islamic country from acquiring a nuclear weapon. he also criticised iran's rulers

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kim un was also seen in public with his daughter for the first time raising speculation she could be training for a leadership role. this gb news. we'll bring you more news as happens. now let's get back to nana. good afternoon. it is faster . 7 good afternoon. it is faster. 7 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news tv online and on digital radio. i'm a queer. it's all kicking off in the markle household. oh, no, actually, in the house there. netflix fly on the house there. netflix fly on the documentary which will net than the reported the documentary which will net than the reporte d £88 million than the reported £88 million has hit a bump in the road in true harry and style a tv insider told the new york times that director garrett bradley wanted harry and meghan to film at home, but the sussexes were

comfortable with doing that. so she quit . how comfortable with doing that. so she quit. how can you film a fly on the wall documentary about how you live in somebody else's house ? the duke and duchess of house? the duke and duchess of sussex had turned to karen bradley , the critically bradley, the critically acclaimed director , after a acclaimed director, after a netflix series about tennis star naomi osaka . but they reportedly naomi osaka. but they reportedly clashed over the direction of the show . and garrett is just the show. and garrett is just one in a long list of that have parted ways with the couple. let's start at the beginning there was katrina mckeever the senior comms secretary. she was assigned to liaise with meghan's family in september 2018. she was reportedly first to go. then in december 2018, only a few months later, there melissa two up to meghan's assistant. after the royal wedding she could only put up with six months of the couple. apparently the royals demand for dues to the tiers. and according to sources. it was reported mirror. she puts reported in the mirror. she puts up quite a lot. meghan put a lot of demands on her and it ended

up with her in tears and that was meghan's. jason off he jumped ship and went to work for prince william and kate and two nannies quit within weeks of each other. the first was reportedly sacked for being unprofessional . in fact, since unprofessional. in fact, since markle became the duchess of sussex and only an up until 2020. so that's less than two years. she's seen off nine members of royal staff and this latest incident should come as no surprise. her new hire, liz garbus , who she appointed to garbus, who she appointed to replace garret, was going to be working meghan's awful sounding animated series pearl, before it rightly scrapped by netflix . rightly scrapped by netflix. meghan said it's nice to be able to trust someone with our story a seasoned director whose work i have admired. just like the last one even if it means may mean that in some way we only be told in a different way to the telling it. we're trusting story to someone else and that it will

go through their lens. to someone else and that it will go through their lens . yet go through their lens. yet right. let's see how long this one lasts. the netflix documentary is expected to within weeks. the sussexes are reported to have tried to push it back to 2023. no chance . it back to 2023. no chance. netflix want their pound of flesh and i hope it's worth it . flesh and i hope it's worth it. well, you know what i mean. it was written on the screen. if you just join me. welcome aboard. this is stuff. before we get stuck into the. here's what else is coming up today the else is coming up today for the great hour. great british debate this hour. i'm asking all you now prepared to labour . according to the to vote labour. according to the gb news people's labour's sir keir starmer is ahead of prime minister rishi sunak when it comes to the economy in this comes to the economy in this comes after the chancellor jeremy hunt increased taxes and decreased public spending in his autumn statement . economists autumn statement. economists have described it as brow knight accusing tory party of veering more towards the left. so i'll use the british prepare to now

vote labour . then at 450 it's vote labour. then at 450 it's obviously time for our vote all round up and royal biographer angela levin will be in the studio to take us through all the happenings in the palace. and kings, and on the menu kings, charles won't brother won't give his younger brother prince the duke of prince edward, the duke of edinburgh, give away. edinburgh, title give away. despite the late queen's promise. that's to reports. and of course , latest on prince of course, latest on prince harry and meghan markle . then at harry and meghan markle. then at 5:00, it's difficult conversation . campaigner and conversation. campaigner and activist rosamund kissing deborah will be in the studio. there was once a nine year old daughter, ella, tragically passed away a decade ago due to air pollution. her mother is urging the government to fast forward its plans to improve quality from 2014 to 2030. in order to prevent other fatalities , a similar and to fatalities, a similar and to just recently an incident in a similar nature. recently happened where a two year old boy died as a result of mould in his flat. no no child should ever be put in that sort of circumstance. that's all on way in the next hour. as ever, tell me think on everything we're

me you think on everything we're discussing by emailing vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb vaiews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb let's welcome to my panel broadcast from economist lizzie . and broadcast from economist lizzie. and calvin robinson . right. so calvin robinson. right. so welcome. nice to see you. oh, love that windswept hand. thank you . 0h, because i had to run you. oh, because i had to run down high street. i a lovely dnven down high street. i a lovely driver, got in trouble the way here. so good to be here . we here. so good to be here. we made it. made it? i made it so good to see you, calvin. thank you. i always almost didn't make it oh, not stuck up in it as well. oh, not stuck up in scotland. 0h, cancelled because a of rain. what a place to a bit of rain. what a place to get stuck in few cities. all right, come on. enough with the small talk. what about meghan markle, who was cast . well shall markle, who was cast. well shall i go for it ? 0h, markle, who was cast. well shall i go for it ? oh, god . well, they i go for it? oh, god. well, they go through more stuff . i go go through more stuff. i go through cups of teas . i mean, i

through cups of teas. i mean, i just then they can't be very nice . they can't be very. nice. they can't be very. i mean, why do their staff not want to work with them? there are so many. i know angela , who are so many. i know angela, who was the dresser for the queen work for the queen over 25 years. these seem to haemorrhage staff every , you know, alarming staff every, you know, alarming rate, nearly every month. there's something going on there is a problem. but, you know what meghan's like, she will never look at herself . they think it's look at herself. they think it's about herself. she'll blame other people. it's you know, she's always the victim . but she's always the victim. but there is a real problem here . there is a real problem here. i'm sorry. i mean, we've got a list as you said, of the amount of staff that have stepped away. catherine stepped down from catherine said stepped down from archewell . well. she was the archewell as. well. she was the of staff executive director. she couldn't bear it compare anymore. i mean this has all been reported. so it's widely and it hasn't been challenged. so we have to see. i mean , tom so we have to see. i mean, tom bower's book as well revenge. i read that. it was fabulous. i've read that. it was fabulous. i've read that. it was fabulous. i've read that and i'm reading all

the royal books and it is interesting there are a lot interesting that there are a lot of people who don't have anything say anything particularly to say about couple then tom about the couple but then tom did he was being did say when he was being interviewed don dan show interviewed by don and dan show that actually when he did approach who were approach people who were probably friendly with the couple. they couple. they wouldn't they didn't speak. obviously, didn't want to speak. obviously, they to say anything they didn't want to say anything about give at all about the couple to give at all away. that of the away. so that be one of the reasons why the book kind of only has negative things is a lot of negative things are, you know, some positive things . know, say some positive things. there's lot of there's been a lot of accusations of bullying on meghan's , but i think harry has meghan's, but i think harry has to take of the blame also to take some of the blame also partner but a like partner his wife. but if a like that he's a man used to that he's a man who's used to having staff around lots having lots of staff around lots of up that way of help he's grown up that way so should be encouraging so he should be encouraging her and the way and showing how the proper way to treat people who are working for it's about manners. for you. it's about manners. it's she doesn't it's about her. and she doesn't really but really seem understand it. but also it interesting that also i find it interesting that they're keep pushing also i find it interesting that they' that keep pushing also i find it interesting that they' that netflix

they're going to get a massive backlash money. yes backlash. it all the money. yes they want the money, but they don't want to do the work we have. to be fair, to, we have. but to be fair, to, we haven't seen this thing yet. i mean the fly on the wall thing we seen where they we haven't seen book where they could positive things could say some positive things but it would be it but i don't. it would be it would changing have a would be changing the have a lot to. look at back to. yes look look at that back track is you know track record it is you know awfulness harry wanting to be this international private yet is doing all of this and i'm wanting to be a celebrity they like trying to be the kardashians but want the money for it. but i want to the work for it. but i want to the work for it. but i want to the work for it. well, they signed themselves up now. i mean, this was professional was actually professional victimhood, mean, victimhood, isn't it? i mean, how wealthy. you've how can you wealthy. you've got everything. world at your everything. the world at your feet. you're still whingeing for goodness well, goodness sake. oh, well, especially the has especially what the crown has done to family as well and done to the family as well and the way painted the queen done to the family as well and the way as painted the queen done to the family as well and the way as prince |ted the queen done to the family as well and the way as prince harry's queen done to the family as well and the way as prince harry's mother as well as prince harry's mother . they should be stepping away from but from netflix at this point but if they're if they're taking if they're not if they're taking the standing the money instead standing by the money instead standing by the more the principals, that shows more about than about their carrots than anything that anything else. do you think that they feel. look they actually feel. oh look they're having a at us again so actually perception

actually they're perception of what's kind what's going on is they're kind of opposite is . you of the opposite is. but you think they see think that they only see themselves the eyes the themselves the eyes that the press are a flesh out of press are having a flesh out of them. might as well them. and so they might as well sell give it sell it rather than give it away. that's actually, away. justine that's actually, the way they're looking it the way they're looking at it and sort of negative and seeing the sort of negative impact it's affecting impact sense, how it's affecting the family and perhaps what they should have should be most, they should have a upper and a stiff, stiff upper lip and just kind of put the press to one side and get on with their private private. and why is private in private. and why is it they're it always about they're always whinging, i'm whinging, always moaning. i'm sorry it , but sorry is bored stiff of it, but they really are. and you know please harry looks miserable. he looks absolutely miserable these days. it doesn't look like the same harry we used to know. i think that's probably him i thought was going to preface that. i thought that's what they wanted. i thought were wanted. i thought they were going on the beach going to go away on the beach and eat avocados and do you know yoga? well, no, that didn't work out that. out because it much for that. they that they weren't they realised that they weren't going and going to get anything and perhaps meghan didn't that when you're prince that you you're the prince that you actually don't really have any money. think she saw it money. i think she saw it castles princesses and money

castles and princesses and money and gold and all that and realised that prince harry the monarchy all they've been holding talks the public and we they take from us and i'm happy to contribute it but i wouldn't be happy to contribute to them at all. this is quite a privilege , but they have to do privilege, but they have to do the job, you know, without privilege. she didn't want privilege. and she didn't want to the job, so she she didn't to do the job, so she she didn't want work. and i'm sorry. want to work. and i'm sorry. they're look at they're both, as i say, look at their record, both their track record, both hypocrites. coal, 21 jets over the last couple of years seem to be the professor of everything talking about climate change and you know well i mean i think quite frankly everyone's had enough of them and please stop moaning and the whingeing and. i do feel very sorry for some of the staff love to really know what went on there. well, they call themselves sussex call themselves the sussex survivors there are survivors. so i know there are other that are worthy other books that are worthy of reading out . and it'll reading to find out. and it'll be interesting if that a couple of turner touches on these who are writing books about them or whether they simply not whether they simply do not think, there's think, andrew said that there's a window time. a certain window of time. so i think about 18 or

think it's about 18 months or something do something before they can do anything anybody , do anything or sue anybody, do anything. so it will be quite interesting to see whether they dare . well, look , let's see what dare. well, look, let's see what happens. but i'm afraid i can't take the money and not do the work. so it's not like that. so you're going to the you're going to watch the documents course we should documents. of course we should all it together . take note all watch it together. take note that. yes. in case . oh god. are that. yes. in case. oh god. are you going to watch it going absolutely . i'll bet you are absolutely. i'll bet you are going to watch as well. i see the crown. the crown i watched i can't watch that. my problem with that is that the people it still alive you can't write stuff about people who live and make out that that's to me i don't understand why these people for it people aren't being sued for it . that about me. . yeah, they did that about me. the it's not. that's the trouble it's not. that's good though . can't watch good tv though. i can't watch companies. i know. good tv though. i can't watch companies. i know . anyway, so companies. i know. anyway, so what are your thoughts? i'd love to hear what you think. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is dvds. we're live on tv online with me. i'm nana akua. this is dvd on ve're live on tv online with me. i'm nana akua. this is dvd on digitalle on tv online with me. i'm nana akua. this is dvd on digital radio.tv online with me. i'm nana akua. this is dvd on digital radio.tv onlthe and on digital radio. after the break is time for the great break it is time for the great british debate out. i'm british debate this out. i'm asking prepare vote asking all you prepare to vote labour. according to the gb news

people labour sir keir starmer is more with the economy than minster rishi sunak. although to be fair is not saying much. i mean, let me set this thing up by the way, why we are where we always partly rishi sunak's plans. mean, comes plans. i mean, this comes after the autumn the chancellor's autumn statement we statement as well as, shall we say, awful statement, which still hunt, increased still jeremy hunt, increased taxes and decreased public spending since spending. and since the announcement, have announcement, economists have dumped brown dumped the statement brown knight accusing the tory party of towards the left. so of veering towards the left. so your thoughts the great your thoughts for the great debate. prepared ? vote debate. are you prepared? vote laboun debate. are you prepared? vote labour. send me your thoughts as even labour. send me your thoughts as ever. give gb views gbnews.uk or tell me what you think. you can also tweet me to gb news as a pull up right. now asking are you now prepared to vote labour cast your vote. but first let's get someone looking ahead to this evening's weather and uk will be mostly dry but heavy rain will push in from west. here are the details. let's start off in the south—west of england . it will be a cloudy end england. it will be a cloudy end to the day with some rain starting to reach western parts

of cornwall spreading to later. over in the south—east it will be cloudy , some with outbreaks be cloudy, some with outbreaks of especially in london. of rain especially in london. other areas , though, will have a other areas, though, will have a clear evening turning cloudy across wales this evening. so whilst eastern may have some clear spells , the clouds will clear spells, the clouds will thicken ahead of . rain arriving thicken ahead of. rain arriving later. cloud and a few spots of rain likely for the east midlands . meanwhile, the west midlands. meanwhile, the west midlands. meanwhile, the west midlands end the day on a dry and clear note before things turn wet overnight. a cloudy picture this evening for northeast england . the odd spot northeast england. the odd spot of rain is but for many it will be dry. some low cloud bring hill fog to any higher routes. often cloudy . much of scotland often cloudy. much of scotland this evening with some rain likely. rain then arriving from the west , likely. rain then arriving from the west, spreading to all parts and becoming impactful in the east. very wet . windy evening east. very wet. windy evening for northern ireland. here the rain should clear during the first part of the night. so it

will be drier and clearer to start sunday. the band of rain will continue to sweep eastwards to all parts overnight with clearer but showery weather following. that's the weather is shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning .

good afternoon. if you just joined us where have you been for goodness sake? it's good. it's you've only missed 20 minutes. this is gb news live tv onune minutes. this is gb news live tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana acquired. don't forget you can also download the gb news app. you can follow all the programmes on the channel. now before we'll before the break we'll discussing the sussexes let's a quick look at what you've been saying. says awful saying. dan says what an awful false woke hypocrite meghan is . false woke hypocrite meghan is. harry's no better. they deserve each other a great deal, says there is no duchess in meghan get of this title as she uses it for tv and media. lose the

title. well we'll speak to andrew levin . andrew levin will andrew levin. andrew levin will be in later for the world. apparently, we could actually a petition as it goes to get rid of it. but right now it's time for our great british debate. this i'm asking, you this hour, i'm asking, are you now to labour ? as now prepared to vote labour? as we has arrived in kyiv we see sunak has arrived in kyiv to meet the president. president in a bid to save the uk remains fully committed to backing ukraine in the war. back at home, the chancellor continues to receive at the announcement of his autumn statement. now dunng of his autumn statement. now during speech to the commons, jeremy hunt was quick to push the rhetoric of sound money . but the rhetoric of sound money. but what is sound about record tax burdens the highest since the aftermath of the second world war? what sound about a welfare bill which is set to soar by £90 billion? and what sound about fuel duty being expected to rise by 23? next adding 12 pe a litre to the cost of petrol and diesel high taxes , high welfare high taxes, high welfare spending, high crime levels and

high immigration levels both legal and illegal this all begs the question what's the difference between the tories and labour? gb news poll asked which of following options would be best to manage the economy in the years ahead , 42% said that the years ahead, 42% said that they don't know , 30 said labour they don't know, 30 said labour and starmer as prime minister at percent and a conservative government with prime minister sunak suggesting labour are trusted. more on the economy than the tories . so trusted. more on the economy than the tories. so for trusted. more on the economy than the tories . so for the than the tories. so for the great budget debate this hour, i'm asking are people now prepared to labour ? are you prepared to vote labour? are you prepared to vote labour? are you prepared labour ? i'm prepared to vote labour? i'm joined former editor of the joined by former editor of the sun kelvin mckenzie. kelvin you so much forjoining me. so let's start with it. what do you make sunak, which sunak. it's sunak, which is sunak. it's rushed over the cliff. you try and repeat of type and repeat this of boris type thing . is and repeat this of boris type thing. is this and repeat this of boris type thing . is this a good thing? do thing. is this a good thing? do you feel it's going to pan out? well him? or is he running away? well him? or is he running away? well well, i mean, the basis of your question was, are you prepared vote labour. the

prepared vote labour. and the answer no. i would literally answer is no. i would literally rather cut off all my extremities and defeat them to a of cameras and talk right now than do that. but what do think is that you've got to i think you've got to understand ordinary will be absolute baffled by what this is the introduction of all this first of all these the tories have had i don't know whether editorial know it was always very difficult understand whether cameron was on my was i think bofis cameron was on my was i think boris was slightly but he was a giveaway charlie . then we had a giveaway charlie. then we had a couple of disasters and i'm not sure where sunak is. is he is he a chief officer is being promoted to ceo of can't do it. who knows? but actually what i do think i am massively , do think i am massively, massively hostile to the idea that universal credit goes up by 10.1% because it is coming out of the pockets , the ordinary of the pockets, the ordinary working families . who? jeremy working families. who? jeremy hunt is now discovered after

many years wandering around in the tory party. i mean, the truth about the matter is by way, jeremy hunt is almost certain going to be slung out in farnham because. they've split his constituency and he didn't have chance them have much chance to follow them because way that the because of the way that the swings working against the conservatives. so going to conservatives. and so going to be of job if the tories be out of a job if the tories get in the mind the get destroyed in the mind the i think they're going to be destroyed rishi will be out of a job. so within two years the two archetype of this what , i archetype of this what, i believe is not a total disaster, but a massive for our country will not be around . i mean, how will not be around. i mean, how many more chances are we going to get through? he's the fourth one. we never had five chances in basic play. well, about 18 months. it is our country is on its back and unfortunately , i'm its back and unfortunately, i'm a natural conservative. i did vote for blair in 97, so i'll just put that out there so that can stop sending vile tweets at me. but now, did you see the

hunters announced that two couple of old warhorses they've dug up? patricia hewitt, who was was a cabinet minister, but labour 2000 won two thousand and seven and sir michael, who has been hanging like a bad smell up around for most of his . and by around for most of his. and by the way, what's he going to be proud about that of now both being hired by hunt to do various good job and looking social side but for patricia hewitt one is hunt doing hiring labour critics right to run a conservative party. it is preposterous i honestly wonder who the conservatives now think they are. they it's difficult to be able to say for certain who is a conservative. i think it's easier if you're a socialist because simply say i'm against that law. when the conservatives i mean, i am. but our our ordinary people are going to be against it. they are going to

face a catastrophe in four, the like of which 97 will be nothing to what's heading their way. and, you know, and you know what the conservative leadership deserves it. the people that don't deserve ordinary working class tory or middle class. don't deserve ordinary working class tory or middle class . why class tory or middle class. why all the middle class as you see the rich it affect the rich. they're too rich and the skint are going to be off under this watch . well, why don't we try to watch. well, why don't we try to force them while we to force these people out of benefits off welfare . and isn't it amazing welfare. and isn't it amazing how? many people are now ill. they're physically ill or their ill. and so when you have these quote job coaches say to them well tell me now how are you ? well tell me now how are you? how did you get on with that job at amazon? oh you had a rather serious flu and they said that. you're saying record wasn't good enough. go slow . now, do you enough. go slow. now, do you know these guys know how to play

the system ? no, i know it's i the system? no, i know it's i know it sounds obvious, but we are not we cannot afford to be a massively liberal democracy when we are totally skint. we need we need workers. we workers. i mean, to be honest with , you you mean, to be honest with, you you could always get to the position where we might as well take those guys from the channel and give them work because we 200,000 a year from outside anyway but there's something gone function fundamentally wrong with the conservative. well perhaps that's what they want us to do to take on lots of cheap labour. it would feels that way to me, but as opposed to patricia hewitt , sir michael to patricia hewitt, sir michael coopen to patricia hewitt, sir michael cooper, i mean, jeremy hunt said that he didn't care really what party they came from. it's just the best person for the job. so that's what was saying, that that's what he was saying, that he able cross party he should be able cross party lines with regard to that. but the is they they the bottom line is they they they they seem to be they don't that they seem to be smashing into each other by people from the labour party, which fine wants do which is fine if. he wants to do that. it like it's just that. it seems like it's just

party. i mean, wanted get party. i mean, we wanted to get somebody else on to add balance, but exactly the same , but they are exactly the same, right? that morphing right? yes. well, that morphing into it. can you honestly that patricia hewitt , who was viewed patricia hewitt, who was viewed as a dud in the labour admin is in the blair administration. she hang around for about six years or so. and i'm not saying she doesn't pour a nice cup of tea probably probably does doesn't smell peas on to the side of a knife but what i am saying is we need to tough view going forward who going to address the health issue. everybody their wife seems to have long covid anymore . we were uniquely in europe but were uniquely in the united states and canada as have more people going sick now that are not being able to work looking for work then . any other major for work then. any other major european and north american democracy . why is that? forget democracy. why is that? forget about trying to work out how make social care work and why

shouldn't people give up their houses ? by the way, after all, houses? by the way, after all, it's a it's an investment. the only people trying stop you giving up your houses are the kids want a free kids because they want a free ride in the house. no no, no. i don't think you should have to give up your house. word. all time. you've worked really hard and. at the end of it, you're going to have to sell house to be a home next to be in a care home next to somebody simply been on somebody who's simply been on benefits it. you why benefits a lot of it. so you why don't in the first place don't bother in the first place there point that is there was no point that that is there was no point that that is the thing. well, i my own my own about that that people about that is that that people should actually have made appropriate financial assessment of their position . but if of their position. but if they're likely to get ill so either take some insurance or do something like that. i've no idea . every single form of idea. every single form of subsidies they to go on the middle class is right now that that stuff by the by paul johnson left stuff but was fantastic it's the first time i ever with an economist which as

you know now is actually designed to make australians look good. they normally get a complete bloody wrong. this is the first time that i've ever heard economist actually say something. i totally agree with the middle are going to take it bangin the middle are going to take it bang in the wallet and why should people suppose somebody some 30 grand 35 grand i and his or her partners on the west say 30 grand the 65 that is the why on earth should throw 8% of their pay package go go to helping out a load of idle people claiming either mental or physical health. well i don't in california running outside but i do agree with you it is stacked into the middle class who work very hard. it doesn't seem to be much in it for them and it does seem to be supporting those who are on benefits and so on so are on benefits and so on and so forth. that's what they said forth. but that's what they said they and appears they they would do. and appears they have done kelvin mackenzie, have done it. kelvin mackenzie, thank joining thank you so much for joining me. good to that is me. it's really good to that is kelvin former kelvin mackenzie, the former editor us. have

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people's channel where live on tv and on digital radio . i'm tv and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's time our great british debate this hour. i'm asking , great british debate this hour. i'm asking, are you now great british debate this hour. i'm asking , are you now prepared i'm asking, are you now prepared to vote labour. now during a speech to the commons jeremy hunt quick to push the rhetoric of sound money in his autumn. but what is sound about record tax burdens. the highest since the aftermath of the second world war. what is about a welfare bill which is set to soar by £90 billion. what is sound about fuel duty being to rise by 23? next year, adding $0.12 a litre to the cost . $0.12 a litre to the cost. petrol and diesel. high taxes. high welfare spending . crime high welfare spending. crime levels. right high immigration levels. right high immigration levels , both legal and illegal. levels, both legal and illegal. this all begs the question what is the difference between the tories and the labour party and our gb news people's poll asked which the following options will be best managed the british economy in the years ahead, 42% of you said you dunno . 33% of

of you said you dunno. 33% of you said labour with starmer as prime minister and only 17% said a conservative government with prime minister sunak. a conservative government with prime minister sunak . that prime minister sunak. that suggests that labour are more trusted on the economy than the tories . so for the great british tories. so for the great british debate, this i'm asking are you now prepared to vote labour? let's what my panel make of let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by columnist and lizzie cundy also gibney presenter robinson presenter father gavin robinson . right. we went fast last time. it you always get lost on a push didn't go on because with you with your conservative credentials . well i mean at the credentials. well i mean at the same time remind . i would never same time remind. i would never vote labour but at the same time they always said labour is the party of high taxes. but the conservative social say higher taxes . the problem i can't vote taxes. the problem i can't vote concept at the moment but i would never in my life vote labour are forgetting this reform reclaim the sdp ukip heritage all very good parties very good options for people that what actually conservative policies and conservative governance they've got two hopes bob open no only only i focus on

voting for labour because we don't want the conservatives both difficult services because we don't vote for labour. then of course end in the same as of course end up in the same as the we're in we are. the we're always in and we are. we ourselves to blame. we have ourselves to blame. we have doing if we have to stop doing that. if we even all okay, we're going even if we all okay, we're going to we're going to vote to stop it. we're going to vote for the smaller now for the smaller parties now we're for reform, we're going to vote for reform, going reclaim. then going to vote, reclaim. then they it's simple. they will get in. it's simple. that's how our system works. so yeah, theory, but in yeah, it does theory, but in practise i vote for practise go. but if i vote for them vote away from them that's one vote away from them that's one vote away from the actually if i the party. and actually if i vote for a form or any of the others, it's actually a vote. labour got to i'm not labour we've got to say, i'm not going out. so then going to get it out. so then people to people go, well, i've got to vote for conservative party vote for the conservative party because otherwise they're the ones have be ones people have got to be braver actually braver and stronger and actually have principles vote with have some principles vote with those out there. those principles but out there. so for reform, some so if some go for reform, some vote and for vote go, reclaim and go for smaller parties together smaller parties get together something well, something that people that well, they're going they're not alone. so i'm going to party. i've to start my own party. i've decide for house party. decide vote for me house party. yay, let's all dance. well, it's got be than this bunch mean got to be than this bunch i mean watching statement watching the autumn statement all statement and. i'm sorry i

was watching jeremy hunt next to retreat and i thought, oh, hold on a minute. these two multi—millionaires letting , our multi—millionaires letting, our country, go down the toilet. thank very much. and you know what we like. traditional voters are in political wilderness because they got this. what's between and conservative with cigarette paper ? they are the cigarette paper? they are the same party. and i actually blame cameron because when he came into power he changed didn't need the party to the light blue bringing his liberal ideology and then you've got all the blair rights and clegg eyes that to get in and thinking it will make the party more electable . make the party more electable. but now they they no longer know what a tory stands for and it isn't what that vote are now. it's like lost. i mean it's not conservative as we know it . well conservative as we know it. well they had liz truss who was actually a conservative who came up with some policies. i thought, okay a delivery wasn't the best, but you know, that's not punishable removal. but

unfortunately for them it was. i think a lot of people will be wishing was still there. of course they do. i'm having lizz truss flashback . i never thought truss flashback. i never thought i'd say this. i'm missing the letter because we won't grow . letter because we won't grow. what have we got now ? you know what have we got now? you know and all. jeremy hunt doing, as calvin said, is hurting the middle. i'm sorry, but, you know, squeezed in the middle, he gave this an oxygen. there was stealth taxes that he didn't put. in his statement, all of he worded in a clever that only after statement, only after after the statement, only after the up we the press picked up on it, we learned all about. learned what they're all about. i be open be i sneaky behaviour be open be transparent, let the people know how going tax them if how you're going to tax them if you're tough what you're in a tough spot. what about the labour party and rachel quiet. i rachel reeves was quiet. i listened to her and i she was quite good. that one thing quite good. that was one thing when blamed liz when she sort of blamed liz truss part the mess and truss for part of the mess and i thought that was you want to continue define what the woman is absolutely you cannot vote. very true. what their plan what what labour actually stand what do labour actually stand for i mean keir starmer never ever says he sits on the fence . ever says he sits on the fence. he get splinters there he get splinters up there honestly and rachel i saw but

they won't answer what they going to do security energy . going to do security energy. we're going to grow they're going to be left with this big black . what are they going to do black. what are they going to do about it? that's the problem. see, the problem they so see, the problem is they so similar and don't know is similar and i don't know one is actually . and i'm actually worse. and i'm beginning think that the beginning to think that the conservative are slightly worse and that's the thing even even i'm looking at and thinking, well i if i vote for reform , well i if i vote for reform, reclaim, they're not going to get in because that is small it's it it now it's the same do it do it now don't if i vote for the don't know if i vote for the green party, they're not green party, but they're not going they've been around going to and they've been around the liberal democrats, they here i i don't i mean, i don't even know i mean. is that a yellow orange. i don't so don't they don't even know. so it's like is left the only thing left is a conservative party. i'm cannot stand the i'm afraid i cannot stand the way they're behaving now. i don't like way jeremy hunt don't like the way jeremy hunt delivered i don't delivered any that i don't like the disposed of boris. the way they disposed of boris. i like the way they i don't like the way they treated truss. it treated lizz truss. i think it was still doing just want was still doing it. just want a break trying get rid of break from trying to get rid of somebody a break and somebody else. well, a break and i stop. and i want them to stop. they and the way to is remove them. the only way to is remove them. but who i to removed these be

but who i to be removed these be destroyed. they need to be decimated. elections. decimated. well in elections. yes, suffering . this yes, yes, we are suffering. this pales behind the british, but it's the one that's suffering, right? the one that is the british taxpayer, which is suffering because of their stupid politics. i'm sorry. we're in this lockdown crisis . we're in this lockdown crisis. i'm blaming he was i'm blaming rishi. he was chancellor . i'm blaming rishi. he was chancellor. i'm sorry. he parachute into number ten and he's proud to suit and. he was the one that had us in lockdown , furloughing companies like . , furloughing companies like. victoria beckham's company. i'm sorry, and i hope they recoup the money for that. no, they haven't. you for sure that haven't. you know for sure that they happened. let's they have not happened. let's see vote for. you see here. you guys vote for. you know made me about know what you've made me about your know you've . got a your lot. i know you've. got a quick look, a need to see andy burnham if andy burnham was to come in for labour, i would. i did vote labour once like calvin. it was for tony blair. biggest mistake i ever did. took us.the biggest mistake i ever did. took us. the waterline cost us the other cobra calvert . yeah. and other cobra calvert. yeah. and what tony blair did to this,

this could even be it was good at the beginning. but unfortunately a bit too big for us. i think he was the worst prime we've had in living memory. a lot of people would look, work. look, it destroys a lot of work. unfortunately, doesn't have . unfortunately, it doesn't have. and he that sort of and he had that sort of a degree, that sort charm and degree, that sort of charm and charm. charm a lot . the charm. charm was a lot. the devil with charm is a lie. and he took us to war on a lighter. forget that. i mean, i know this civil servants still went on strike. tony i don't strike. i'll tony blair. i don't know you remember that. well, know if you remember that. well, i wish they would go strike i wish they would go on strike so rid of all of them. so we get rid of all of them. a lot of them not doing anything so we get rid of all of them. a lotall. them not doing anything so we get rid of all of them. a lotall. they'ret doing anything so we get rid of all of them. a lotall. they're talking anything so we get rid of all of them. a lotall. they're talking about ng at all. they're talking about it. we it. okay, well, then, then we can see little they actually can see how little they actually do because and not all of them, there's ones, there's some very good ones, but i'm the way home i'm sorry, but the way the home office behaving and have processed all the applications and immigration got and the immigration we've got 40,000 people and what are we going it don't going to do? it don't keep making minor adjustments, making these minor adjustments, giving the french money. what are do things for are they going to do things for immigration to get boost immigration to get to boost economy. about economy. they're talking about more at this point more immigration at this point when already have much. when we already have too much. well, to to the well, they us to go back to the thing cheap labour don't thing with cheap labour don't they. then they. because they if they then decide lot of the

decide to use a lot of the economic migrants, then they can then start to plummet wages then start to plummet down wages and big and keep wages nice and big business was business benefits. and what was the of brexit. well, i'm the point of brexit. well, i'm sorry. let's they sorry. got hope. let's hope they do something but i'm sorry. you know with jeremy they're welcome to but that's it. to hell. sorry, but that's it. so are you going to vote labour then or what are you going to do? well, i about it but i've just been talking to lovely kelvin there and i think i could possibly vote for reform, you know , just maybe we need know, just maybe we need something different. we need change. we need a change well, let's see, let's see what have you think because there's just nothing so let's nothing without them. so let's welcome and our listeners, of course, great course, welcome our great british voices opportunity to be on show tell us what on this show and tell us what you about the we're you think about the topics we're discussing to discussing this hour. we had to wish we go . 1010 west he's been wish we go. 1010 west he's been detained saying oh, that sounds lovely. let's to jonathan jones entain . where's that? oh is in entain. where's that? oh is in the dark. is this where it is always in scotland. it's nothing . why is it so dark there? what time is it charles? it's got a

monk have you been nicking out mugs. they've all gone. we've all been going there there in the north of scotland. nana oh, i really love me . tea up here. i really love me. tea up here. tastes delicious . a gb news mug. tastes delicious. a gb news mug. i can tell you that . oh, i love i can tell you that. oh, i love it. say it's good if you need to send us some of that to some. well, jonathan. so what do you think of this, are you ready now at the way it is? i mean, they are practically, leigh, the labour party. i would never say , mean, one thing , never, none. i mean, one thing in life you can talk about your tea, never talk about tea, but you never talk about politics and talking to the locals here , they vote locals here, they would say vote for labour , be completely wasted for labour, be completely wasted because snp or because it says snp or conservatives here. otherwise you're lost. but you know, back at home in cornwall it's the whole county's blue and there may a bit of complacency with that. so you can say never. so your thoughts that people are going to stick with the conservatives even though there's this ghastly spring or autumn of awful statement that we're calling it now, i do you

really think people are going to stick with this? well i think there's a lot of moaning going on right behind me. it's a lovely mix of renewable energy and, you know, fossil fuels . i and, you know, fossil fuels. i think that the extremists we're heanng think that the extremists we're hearing at the moment, we just need a bit more balance in the debate and i think that's being lost. i think we nasty to sit down over the nation's favourite dnnk down over the nation's favourite drink know national drink and have a much more reasoned debate like you guys are leading right now. i think it's fantastic that you're to discuss these you're starting to discuss these things and you know hold to account people that are account these people that are supposed to be running country. well, jonathan, it's really good to talk to you and enjoy yourself in tain darren it looks lovely just tasting extra lovely. thank you so much jonathan, that's just changes there in scotland. tain and he's a great british voice. lovely to speak to him. well, today i've been asking you prepared to vote laboun been asking you prepared to vote labour. let's see what you've been saying because quite a few of you in touch with your views.

tony says labour and conservatives are two sides of the same time to vote for the same coin. time to vote for another party, says. why another party, john says. why would labour the same as would i vote labour the same as the tories? but worse james says, would absolutely not says, i would absolutely not vote for labour. i could never vote for labour. i could never vote . starmer he refused to vote. starmer he refused to honour the result of brexit. the brexit referendum . and was brexit referendum. and there was not, suppose , although he has not, i suppose, although he has sort since rolled back sort of since rolled back and said that realises it is said that he realises that it is a he's not going to tackle that one. there's a poll on one. there's a poll up now on twitter throughout the show asking. prepared asking. are you now prepared to vote ? currently 15% of vote labour? currently 15% of you say yes, 85% of you say no. what will it take for the tories to do for you to your minds, or perhaps you going to vote for somebody else, keep your thoughts coming. you're me. thoughts coming. you're with me. i'm news by live i'm nana akua on tv news by live on online on digital on tv online and on digital radio to come royal round up time with royal biographer angela levin. she'll be live in the studio and the menu. king charles won't give his younger brother, prince edward , duke of brother, prince edward, duke of edinburgh. despite the edinburgh. title despite the late queen's . that is according late queen's. that is according to reports , the duke and duchess

to reports, the duke and duchess of sussex are set to receive the human rights award, but critics are up in arms. human rights award, but critics are up in arms . that's on the are up in arms. that's on the way after this .

hello. good afternoon. this is a gb news on nana akua. welcome board. where live on tv online and on digital . we are the and on digital. we are the people's channel. now it's time for our royal up because there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different . it seems has been no different. it seems that prince edward is likely to take on his father's title and become the duke of edinburgh, given that king charles is planning slim down the monarchy. as always harry and meghan are in the news, are set to in the news, they are set to a human rights award. their fight against racial injustice . how against racial injustice. how could i muster up a monologue? i should have done on that? oh my goodness. could you just

goodness. but could you just slam move some dubbing slam the move with some dubbing it choice . i'll do it a bewildering choice. i'll do one each i love to one tomorrow so each i love to give you a rundown. and who better do that us? better to do that for us? and angela , royal biographer, angela levin, royal biographer, she's studio angela. she's here in the studio angela. right. should we once right. where should we once we start? could start with the start? we could start with the duke of edinburgh, title yes. it's a very important time. duke of edinburgh, title yes. it's a very important time . and it's a very important time. and for decades always gone for decades it's always gone down to the air of throne. prince philip got the title on the evening before or actually on today's the same date in 1943, when married the queen and. but he obviously a decided that prince edward should get it rather than prince charles. but now gone to prince charles since his death and there's rumours that he's not going to give it to his younger brother. i don't necessarily think that's true because . he has made it because. he has made it a councillor state, which means that prince edward to stand in for him if he's not well or he's abroad . so he doesn't have to abroad. so he doesn't have to

use harry or andrew he's also to the royal who ha when that comes out you know that will the sort of actors and things i forgot what it's called but the royal is a real of huge royal do very important and royals always go and i asked andrew he asked edward if he would go to that too so he obviously needs and i can't imagine he would do that because i think edward would really like it. well, i think we to do is to wait until the coronation happen and then see and, that's the same when you deliver titles too, because you don't really hear much about edward. actually does he do much? yes, he does a lot. but he and his wife are quiet and they go of charities . they go to lots of charities. they travel abroad and do a lot of hard work without making a big to do about it, unlike some of you. i'd like to talk about unlike, yes, harry and meghan let's talk about it. what's going on with them? i just heard

just before i came in that a labour mp put up a removal titles bill for the house of column. we said . we were going column. we said. we were going to do that and they got in, they heard us really. yes. and the reason she is a labour mp from york and it's so many people in europe don't want andrew to use their home title . for anymore their home title. for anymore and so that might through it's going to be heard for the second time december the ninth but if that happens then it means it could also be for harry and meghan and prince charles can king charles can now make up his own about whether he does that i wonder who the mp for sussex is. will have to find out. no, no . will have to find out. no, no. 0h, will have to find out. no, no. oh, no, no. but i'm thinking for the sussexes. oh, i see. yeah. okay i'm ahead of you angela. yeah, they can do it with anyone. they could just have once got the okay

once they've got the okay on that can use it'll be that can use it. so it'll be very interesting i think to see what documentary on netflix will be like, which is coming out december and also what prince harry's book will be he's coming out the beginning of so if he's going to attack the royals and attack father and attack his stepmum a lot, maybe this will be used to actually say cheerio . but do you think that perhaps is was slightly addicted now to watching it all this whole thing unfold? so whatever they check out well. so i will still out as well. so i will still watch they don't have watch even if they don't have the yes, right. the titles. yes, that's right. but think that they won't like that they will be very upset. but you can't have cake and actually out and you actually spit it out and you you've to actually if you you've got to actually if you criticise the monarchy endlessly and think well how awful it is and think well how awful it is and everybody's trapped in there, why you want to hold the title? if it's just so you can earn money . that's not right. earn money. that's not right. you can't use the royal titles to. earn money for yourself .

to. earn money for yourself. they're going now into a sort of media range, aren't they? they're doing things very grandly to earn money through through the media that's what aim is at the moment. they might as well just get on with that really. i mean, because we don't want we don't want to hear them going on and slagging off the royal anymore. royal family anymore. they should media should just get on and do media stuff want to try our stuff if they want to try our best as a something other than a good at way. they should best as a something other than a goorcarry way. they should best as a something other than a goorcarry on way. they should best as a something other than a goorcarry on with they should best as a something other than a goorcarry on with that. should best as a something other than a goorcarry on with that. yes, ld just carry on with that. yes, but need to do that but seem to need to do that actually i it some actually i think it gives some adrenaline adrenaline . adrenaline money, adrenaline. well, money they get some well, as money they get some going and, they get all angry and you know, they feel energetic . i think that that energetic. i think that that some that might very well be stopped and. well, i hope so . stopped and. well, i hope so. now, what about the jungle? if i don't know whether you're watching or not? are you watching or not? are you watching well, you've watching this? well, i you've been watching haven't been watching it. i haven't watching have watching it faithfully, have you? watching bit at night. you? watching it a bit at night. my you? watching it a bit at night. my feelings about tindall my feelings about mike tindall i'll getting more and more disapproving no he's wonderful

see in that tiny little swimming costume that barely covered him and looked really as if it was a woman's knickers. i thought i did but he's just doing what they're doing. i mean, they're a very hot jungle. that is the sort of thing everybody else is wearing. he has to do that. no, they're not actually they're wearing that's . you wearing the thing that's. you mean he's wearing little bitty budgie, baby . so budgie, tiny, tiny baby. so i think that actually he's opening up too much about. his mother in law , when he tore his his law, when he tore his his trousers so you could see his pants and it said , you know, pants and it said, you know, take a bite or something . oh, take a bite or something. oh, no. and i think i'll skip on. i can't imagine she would like to be treated like really frankly , be treated like really frankly, i think not really representing the family. people say help the royal family get popular where. they haven't been popular. but i think so. i think it's quite

destructive of them. do you think ? well, you know, he's like think? well, you know, he's like a peripheral sort of royal anyway, so it's kind on the edge of it. yeah, he's very funny. so he's not going out spouting off horrible things about them? no he's all right. think he's he's all right. i think he's very well and he. but he's on edge. but actually, he's very within the inner circle i mean, he doesn't he doesn't have a title, but he has a lot to do with the family socially. well, it's an stuff it's torture as usual lovely for that lovely royal round up that is of course angela levin this is these were live on tv online on digital radio more in the next hour. it's 5:00 this is gb news i'm nana akua. we are the people's channel. and for the next hour, me and my panel, we're taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines now now.

the headlines right now now. coming this hour, this coming up in this hour, this difficult conversation. i'll be speaking to a mother who lost her daughter as a result of pollution. and for the great british debate this is british debate this hour is worth the pensions worth keeping the pensions triple all that's on the triple lock all of that's on the way your latest way after your latest news headunes. way after your latest news headlines . good afternoon. it's headlines. good afternoon. it's 5:01. i'm bethany elsey to bring you up to date on gb news. the uk is boosting its support for ukraine , pledging a £50 million ukraine, pledging a £50 million package of air defence aid. prime minister, i've actually seen confirmed the move during an unannounced visit to kyiv. he told president volodymyr zelenskyy the uk will continue to stand with the country as it fights end russia's barbarous war. your homes , your hospitals, war. your homes, your hospitals, your power stations are being destroyed by the air. so to help you defend yourselves, we today providing new air defence support including hundred and 20

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live on online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . for the radio. i'm nana akua. for the next hour, me and my panel be taking on some of the big topics that are hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion it's mine, it's science. and of course, it's we'll be debating, discussing and at times will disagree. and at times we will disagree. but one will cancelled . but one will be cancelled. joining me today, it's author and broadcaster christine hamilton. don't say broadcast hamilton. i don't say broadcast journalists, technical. in fact, that was yesterday who writes these honestly. still to these things honestly. still to come. it's time for come. finally, it's time for this week's difficult conversation campaign . an conversation campaign. an activist advocacy . activist rosalind advocacy. deborah will be studio deborah will be in studio husbands nine year old daughter ella tragically away after suffering a severe asthma attack a decade ago to air pollution. her mother is urging the government to fast forward its to improve air quality from 14 to improve air quality from 14 to 2030 in order to prevent further fatalities of a similar nature and only recently two year old boy died as a result of mould this flat then falls away. but this debate this hour i'm asking is it worth keeping the

pension triple lock . chancellor pension triple lock. chancellor jeremy hunt announced pension triple lock would remain in place in order to protect the vulnerable after uk inflation hit a 41 year high in october. now this means the pension payments will rise by 10.1% next april. that's more money in the pockets of pensioners. however, there is a greater pensioners will be paying more taxes. so is it keeping the pensions triple lock? email your thoughts ever gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb difficult conversation and advocacy. deborah just nine years old when she tragically passed after suffering a severe asthma attack. she was the first person in britain to have air pollution on her death certificate as . one of the certificate as. one of the causes. living affecting children's health is all too pressing, especially given the story of two year old. our izack

. passing away from mould was confirmed this week and his mother rosamund been campaigning for clean air ever since she set up the ella roberta family in order to get her message across to the public as as aiming to help other children who are affected by asthma. rosalind campaigned for a second coroner's inquest into the death of daughter to find out whether air pollution played part. after several years, a coroner determined it had in 2020 her ardent campaigning has also led to the expansion low emission zones in london and rosamond, as currently set her sights on changing the government's goal of reducing air pollution from 2040 to 2030. and i'm pleased say that she joins me now live in the studio. thank you very much. it's really good to talk. thank you so much for having me. and we've just been discussing behind the scenes we have something in common, our something massive in common, our heritage. we're both from gold coast, so gardiner. and thank you for having me. you know, it

is it's an honour to be here and especially to speak to the viewers to explain why doing what i'm doing. so tell us a little bit about and talk to me about the sort of girl that she was ella was my first born and you know we tend to push our firstborn she was incredibly bright it was very lively very sporty i should you know she was incredibly intelligent and. i always have to say that because we focus i think because she had asthma. so badly, we tend to focus the physical activities that she did. but although she died at nine, she had a reading age of 15 and she would be going to university . and the reason to university. and the reason why i say that is the close friends she had , they've all friends she had, they've all achieved incredibly . and in achieved incredibly. and in september they went to university, which was moment for me you know these you never really get you never really get used to that and you think god she would be doing or she would be doing that. but you know, she's made history, i guess in

her own way. i guess she'd be very, very proud of you . she very, very proud of you. she would be so proud of you. wouldn't say i, you know, i mean my twins are they and thank you very much for mentioning how as well because we've discussing it in our house . obviously the in our house. obviously the clear distinction was his was indoor air and has was outdoor. but at end it is and he is an and we. professor cathy noakes we were going to be writing to the prime minister anyway about indoor. the prime minister anyway about indoor . but i the prime minister anyway about indoor. but i have since got in contact her and i say, well now we need to add this on the way. and i used to be a teacher before ella died . and for me, before ella died. and for me, i've got to be honest, i feel this is the tip of the iceberg . this is the tip of the iceberg. what i mean by that is teachers and doctors across the country know that some some young people come from very difficult . so come from very difficult. so let's sit here and pretend this

is an isolated incident. but luckily nobody has died. but we know most some awful, awful angel know most some awful, awful angel. i think been quite saddened when people have actually said things like the father have maybe cleaned up since he's not a school . yeah. since he's not a school. yeah. that within the structure you can't just clear it out like that you actually have to literally have that out. it's very, very deadly . i think i've very, very deadly. i think i've beeni very, very deadly. i think i've been i think i was told was that every time someone dies it's really going to impact me and what i have with i think i, look, when she was six i can't her as a two year old having difficulties which he did and i'm thinking all the times we have grieving and how scary it must have being for his but i haven't read much about it because i think i know what and i haven't looked the pictures i've only seen the pictures in the newspaper which desensitises

. i don't think i want to say on on the screen because that would be bit too much for me. actually, the whole thing i mean for bless his sweet heart and it really this is i mean where you were the south circular i used to drive around that area and i used to be in my car at the trough fake it was honestly you've ever seen a traffic jam thatis you've ever seen a traffic jam that is a traffic jam that you will sit in. i knew when i was going that way, the south circular. so i used to live in lewisham would be literally on there time. i would there for a long time. i would go at any to avoid that. go at any pains to avoid that. but of course then they put in all these sort of ltn of neighbourhoods which kind of diverts other . so diverts the traffic to other. so it actually makes the problem worse for those outside. i'm glad you're giving me the opportunity to speak about this. look, regarding the traffic neighbourhood, can speak neighbourhood, i can only speak about the one in lewisham because that's where i actually live . and those that drive on it live. and those that drive on it know it has actually got worse. now my point is if you near an

actual main road , the traffic is actual main road, the traffic is already yet alone diverse . even already yet alone diverse. even more traffic . and i'm not more traffic. and i'm not surprised week the assessment figures have gone again and you know doctors main hospital like king's college they have been steadily concern about the amount of children coming in and yes it is better for some if you live one but a lot of people don't if you live on a main you can't have a school street and to divert more traffic onto the main road is and that's all i'm not about division and one of the things i will ask again is not i'm not the only one who lives. there are hundreds of thousands of people that live there. there are schools that i just off the south side . and just off the south side. and actually, to be honest most of our schools historically , they our schools historically, they are on main road . and we have to are on main road. and we have to admit lot parts of london are

now gridlocked and we know the reason why . yes, we encourage reason why. yes, we encourage people short journeys walk cycle. but please do not block off roads that people like us who live near the we have to inhale poisonous air and is what is going on so those asthma figures are incredible worrying and i've been saying this all along is no whether i am anti something it's about children's health and that is yesterday i was in the house of lords and i would like to thank all the parties. conservative labour , parties. conservative labour, greens especially baroness jenny jones , the liberals. they are jones, the liberals. they are all working together. there was objections yesterday we had the, the committee stage of law and there were no objections about it . and the third reading will it. and the third reading will be hopefully be on the 2nd of december. and i urge the

government to please adopt ella's law because . they missed ella's law because. they missed a very important deadline nana about setting air quality on the 31st of october. we all know why because it's been quite chaotic, but not here to criticise the government i'm asking them is up to ten years and that's it and we all want to breathe clean and i don't know when they're going to bring the air quality targets . but in the meantime and this law is through and i urge all the parties in the commons if they could adopt this it will save children's lives and the as well 2040 is too late . yeah it well 2040 is too late. yeah it is too late . you know, what is too late. you know, what they're talking about is guidelines that were 2005 and the governments are trying to say to the people of united kingdom we can only implement them by 2040. that is five years

later . and last year i realised later. and last year i realised that people are still dying. so they've even made them even . so they've even made them even. so we're not even talking about those guidelines for me this is about a matter of life and death. and no, it's about it's not about my daughter. i can no longer help her in this great capital still between eight and 12 children die every year from asthma. every year. this has to stop. there are countries , stop. there are countries, finland, norway, children no longer die from us. so is something going wrong here? and thatis something going wrong here? and that is why , again, i work with that is why, again, i work with mayor khan and that's why i want the eu lays extended and i'm not going to get into the debates about it's a monument. i come from a public health point of view and we now know nama that pollution is linked to is linked to alzheimer's brain cardiovascular strokes. so even

before cove it the waiting list that for 8 million it is getting longer and longer and prevent is better than cure . you don't want better than cure. you don't want to read in the newspaper that . to read in the newspaper that. i've suddenly got ill through the i am breathing and there are thousands and thousands research 70,000 bits of research nana that link air pollution and health . so we are sitting on a health. so we are sitting on a time bomb and unless clean up the air, the prime minister has thrown more and money more and more money asset . but unless we more money asset. but unless we treat it at source we're going to continue to become ill and thatis to continue to become ill and that is why i do what i do, because my daughter like i have suffered and i don't want i don't want you to suffer. me or our children . so talk to me our children. so talk to me about that. the foundation of the foundation was set up. i'm very proud of it. it was set up. my very proud of it. it was set up. my daughter's, her memory and one of the reasons why we decided to base it in lewisham is she was so proud of being in lewisham. and because of the

south, what we now know because of the south africa don't of the south africa and don't want children . and one of want other children. and one of the things to admit is the things i have to admit is that who live near main that children who live near main roads in general tend to have more respiratory illnesses. and we hope i am here is to raise awareness. and that's one of the things the foundation is to educate the public about the impact of air pollution on health and thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to come here and speak to your audience about. come here and speak to your audience about . well if people audience about. well if people want to find out more about the foundation, what can they do ? foundation, what can they do? can i ever find on twitter, old or the website is w ww and .org but the public look out ella's law and we might do a petition we are going to form one and we would really like you to sign to ask the prime minister to take kleenex seriously . it is a kleenex seriously. it is a natural human right. you just have to breathe it . and all the have to breathe it. and all the children in united kingdom deserve to breathe clean . nobody

deserve to breathe clean. nobody should die . in 2020 from asthma should die. in 2020 from asthma and hope. that is the legacy i actually behind what is thank you so much. thank you for having me all your friends are watching. they're ready to tell you a new day . and thank you so you a new day. and thank you so much for having me as well as i'm going to kiss it. much for having me as well as i'm going to kiss it . w.h.o. i'm going to kiss it. w.h.o. ambassador as for clean air, thank you so much for joining me. well, coming up is a great british debate this hour. i'm asking is it worth keeping the pensions so make sure you join me. what are your thoughts charles the jeremy irons announced triple announced the pension triple would remain place in order would remain in place in order to protect the vulnerable after uk inflation hit a 41 year record high in october. now means pension payments will means that pension payments will rise by 10.1. next putting more money in the pockets of pensioners, however , has a pensioners, however, has a greater likelihood that pensioners will also be paying more taxes. so is it actually keeping that triple lock ? all of keeping that triple lock? all of that after this break.

goodis good is fast approaching 23 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news where live on tv online and on digital radio . i'm not a on digital radio. i'm not a quitter. now it's time for our great british debate this hour . great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it actually worth keeping the pension triple lock ? now, the coalition government first introduced the triple lock in 2010, and the purpose of the lock was ensure that the state pension did not lizzie cundy over time through a guarantee that each year the state pension would rise by the highest of the average earnings inflation by the cpi or by 2.5% in the chancellor's autumn. excuse me . chancellor's autumn. excuse me. jeremy hunt announced the pension lock would remain in order protect the vulnerable . uk

order protect the vulnerable. uk inflation hit a 41 year high in october , so this means that the october, so this means that the pension payments will increase by 10.1% next april . those by 10.1% next april. those pension credits will also rise in line with inflation now, according to the obe office of budget responsibility , pension budget responsibility, pension payments will increase by 30% in the next six years, which means there is a much higher that state pensions will go above the personal tax so it will mean that more pensioners could be made to pay the 21% basic rate of income . so in the great of income. so in the great budget debate this hour, i'm asking is it worth keeping the triple lock? i'm joined now by former conservative mp edwina currie. edwina you so much for joining me. nice to see now. okay. so first of all, do you think the pensioners actually getting a good deal from the autumn statement ? well autumn statement? well i personally would have been perfectly happy if it had been decided that the triple lock

would not be honoured this year. but also because i were many many years, over many decades, i saved a person pension. i claim the tax relief on the contributions that i paid in and i'm able now to draw on that. but you know, we've got 12 and a half million pensioners and a large number of them are not in that situation or only have a small work pension so that they are benefiting it. we had a team out canvassing. you know, i live in the peak district, had a team out canvassing earlier today in an area where we have large number of older people, not particularly well—off. and they were thrilled . bet it was the were thrilled. bet it was the key thing that they kept mentioning that, particularly with the winter and with the additional of high fuel prices and so on, they're really very glad indeed to think that in the spnng glad indeed to think that in the spring their pensions will be up in order to account for inflation. and i think i think i know what the is trying to do is

saying right, know what the is trying to do is saying right , that's 12 and a saying right, that's 12 and a half million people that we don't have to worry quite much about the difference between that 12 and a half million people and so 12 half million people and so 12 half million people in the 20 1030s is that one lot can't work you know there's quite few pensioners are two one half million pensioners that do, but it's only time in most cases which i work part time , the sort i'm doing now, time, the sort i'm doing now, but majority of pensioners and particularly people in their eighties and their 90 is, you not in a position to change income? they are on fixed incomes and therefore they feel that it's right that the government look after them and they won't . too many worries in they won't. too many worries in future . but edwina, what's the future. but edwina, what's the point of them sort of raising the amount that you're going to get in your pension only for them to tax it for me as well. so in the end it could and could be that they as well have be that they might as well have just with that just not bothered with that because just going to because they're just going to take the money off you anyway and pensioners might end up and some pensioners might end up

having to do things like tax returns, is fiddly at returns, which is it's fiddly at the times. well many of us, the best times. well many of us, many many pensioners are taxed payers and have been right from the time that we if we have a retired . and why is that. retired. and why is that. because allowance is 12 and a half thousand or 12,570. that went up a couple years ago quite substantially . and that means substantially. and that means that the state pension is still well below it even . it's gone up well below it even. it's gone up to about ten grand. there's still a bit of headway there, a bit of headroom there. so the situation you're describing will only affect people who have an additional pension on top of that. now, i grant you that's a lot of us . you know, the tax lot of us. you know, the tax return you have to do is actually quite easy . and if you actually quite easy. and if you are earning a lot, if you've got are earning a lot, if you've got a lot coming in, say from another pension , from your another pension, from your savings, well , yes, you may well savings, well, yes, you may well have to do a tax return, but it's fairly easy thing to do. most pensioners, you know, we did match when were at school.

0h did match when were at school. oh i hate tax returns. i hate doing stuff like that. so in your views then after this then your views then after this then you think the conservative party is the party is still the party for pensioners ? i think there's a pensioners? i think there's a little bit of politics playing there? i think you're quite right nana. you're a highly intelligent lady that most pensioners vote their voting rate is much higher than amongst young people who do a lot of moaning and pay more tax relatively. but pensioners i think are quite shrewd . they've think are quite shrewd. they've lived through a lot. they understand how important things like the health service are. so if they have to pay tax, they do willingly. they understand how important the cash system is . important the cash system is. they will recognise the government's to put a lot government's tried to put a lot more money into that. amanda stand they are on stand how dependent they are on the rest of society. i won't say the rest of society. i won't say the word grateful , but i think the word grateful, but i think there's a word of recognition that actually a good when a that actually it's a good when a nafion that actually it's a good when a nation has as many old people as we have and we are an old country . but somewhere along the

country. but somewhere along the line there should be some support them. if you don't have that support , then you're going that support, then you're going to have same stories that we used to have years of poverty stricken pensioners and that would be awful. that would indeed be terrible. edwina currie , always a pleasure. thank currie, always a pleasure. thank you so much. she's a former conservative , but i'm also conservative mp, but i'm also joined by investment trust director and investment writer max king. max, thank you very much me . do you much for joining me. do you think actually think pensions will actually better or off after better off or worse off after this autumn statement ? i think this autumn statement? i think they will be worse off, though not in a major way. and the reason why they'll be worse off is because over time, the freezing of the personal will mean that people, even on the bafic mean that people, even on the basic pension will be paying paying basic pension will be paying paying taxation. those who've got a bit of savings and they've got a bit of savings and they've got income from savings will, of course, be paying rather more taxation . i do worry that in the taxation. i do worry that in the future the government may be force will be breaking the

commitment of pensioners after all. i don't think really much doubt that their forecasts are rather overoptimistic that their tax revenue won't raise much as they hope for the expenditure will pile up and therefore they'll be coming back for more taxes or more cuts or cuts . taxes or more cuts or cuts. pensioners will be in the firing line. so yeah, so i do think pensioners are going to be a are going to be worse off but perhaps not much as the rest of the population. you've got to remember actually we ought to be supporting hard working people really first, first and foremost and a lot of these hardworking people would, not particularly like the idea that people who are not contributing to the economy are being looked after. well, and that's why i think actually when it comes to the triple say that we should actually go on a rolling two or three year basis rather than an annual basis. that annual basis. i think that sticks in the cruel of many working that pensioners get 10% this year and if we kept the

system but use eroding two or three year basis it would it would be much gentle. and that's what i is going to bring it we in the back because you said that sticks in the accrual pensions would be a in time that people might talk annoyed with this triple lock that we know. what's your view on that because he's saying actually be he's saying that actually be slightly off potentially slightly worse off potentially with this. well no they won't be worse off if the allowances stay at the same level . worse off if the allowances stay at the same level. bear in mind what i said that actually they jumped in recent years very increase in the in the tax allowances a couple of years ago to my surprise i thought well graham tax was really quite a lot and also helps low paid workers also people on minimum wage and living wage and that's i think that's a big amongst those pensioners you've still got people who are claiming pension you've still got quite a lot of really not very well—off particularly women who only have their egg pension bearing in

mind that in those generation it was much less common for women be working or to be paying a full national insurance stamp . full national insurance stamp. and so they often find when they do claim the pension , not very do claim the pension, not very much. and their costs are much higher than many working people because they're stuck at home all day. you've got have a heat up my metre has just told me that i've clocked 40 quids worth of heating today. just because it's cold. oh the big gas centre heating . you know, this is a heating. you know, this is a problem for many, many older people to don't be mean it's your mum you're talking about andifs your mum you're talking about and it's you yourself when you get to retirement age pension with a very big house those cost me with a very big house those cost m e £40 a day edwina. i mean me £40 a day edwina. i mean look, you see what i mean? max edwina saying that it's just people being mean, that ultimately because pensioners people being mean, that ultinhave because pensioners people being mean, that ultinhave really|se pensioners people being mean, that ultin have really hard, nsioners people being mean, that ultin have really hard, you ners people being mean, that ultinhave really hard, you know they have really hard, you know , w9, they have really hard, you know , we, they have wisdom . it's , we, they have wisdom. it's that time of lifetime for us, for to sort of sit back and we should actually as a younger generation, i, i agree. i think

we should keep continue with the triple lock, but i don't think it an annual test. i it has to be an annual test. i think can be test which runs think it can be test which runs over two years. that over over two years. and that means that they wouldn't get so much this , but they would catch much this, but they would catch up in future years . think up in future years. think that would fairer system to would be a fairer system to those in work but think you know the current term government is basically squeezing working people the pipsqueak and people to the pipsqueak and i don't that's you know don't think that's you know that's if want that's a good thing if you want to growth the to encourage growth in the economy i think it'll it's allowed some to undermine the tax so you know i think it's dangeris tax so you know i think it's danger is that we're heading into a sort of downward spiral of problems said . max, do you of problems said. max, do you think it's needed to do you think it's needed to do you think it's needed to do you think it's been worth them keeping this triple lock didn't an overall look if you look at the entire economy and what it was having to actually agree to this will do to the to actually think it's the right thing think that it's the right thing for them do i it should yes for them to do i it should yes i think they should keep it but on a rolling two year basis certainly. i also think that actually we the government

should reintroduce what was once called the a wise amendment and index linked the online basis of the tax free amount . now i take the tax free amount. now i take i accept that a couple of years ago the tax free amount went up quite sharply . but if this is quite sharply. but if this is this freeze is continued for six years we'll be everyone who's working will be underwater and they will not have kept pace with inflation. so i think, you know, that this was a this is a policy introduced by two left wing labour mps in the middle of a financial crisis in 1970s. and it was backed by mrs. and the conservative party in those used to support low taxation and was continued every chancellor until rishi sunak came along. so i think it was a it was an excellent innovation which lasted for well nearly years and ihope lasted for well nearly years and i hope that the pensions can last for 40 years. but actually l, last for 40 years. but actually i, i would like to see these sort of measures once they're embedded in the political system

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good afternoon . if you just good afternoon. if you just joined us, you're coming towards the end of the why. he joins us now. he's joined us at 4:00. that's okay. because you're here. i'm nana akua. this is gb news where live on online , on news where live on tv online, on digital it's time for our digital radio. it's time for our great british this hour. and i'm asking, actually worth asking, is it actually worth keeping lock keeping the pens and triple lock . in chancellor's autumn . in the chancellor's autumn statement , . in the chancellor's autumn statement, hunt announced that the lock would the pension triple lock would remain order to protect the remain in order to protect the vulnerable after uk hit a 41 year high in october. so this means that payments will rise by point 1% next april, as pension credit will also increase in line inflation. however the rise in pension payments means that there is a much greater likelihood that state pensions go above personal tax allowances

and therefore more pensioners will be paying more tax . so is will be paying more tax. so is it actually worth it ? the great it actually worth it? the great british debate this hour. i posing that question. is it worth keeping the triple lock? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by and fry our robinson in the outfits. roy you like in the suits either. yes. thank you. thanks. something to the very easy on a sunday. let's not get started on. okay. the clock out of the closet. okay. okay let's go with you, lizzie. first of all, pension triple lock. is it jeremy hunt? so lock. oh, is it jeremy hunt? so good looking after all. pension isn't it? oh, really ? me bright. isn't it? oh, really? me bright. i mean, these poor pensioners. what's protect them from. right food prices rising . energy food prices rising. energy pnces food prices rising. energy prices declining in the nhs in the health says is everything else . is he really, really else. is he really, really looking after them? look at the council tax going up through the roof from local governments quite . frankly, i think the quite. frankly, i think the value the pension is going to be in freefall . a report saying

in freefall. a report saying he's putting in one hand and taking the other. calvin taking out the other. calvin i mean, of course, we need to make sure the elderly and the vulnerable are protected in society. but with this , a vulnerable are protected in society. but with this, a £90 billion pensions and billion squeeze on pensions and welfare working can't afford it. but the country isn't balancing anymore. the books aren't balancing anymore. like balancing anymore. it looks like the 10% increase on the pension is going to do some damage to working people, but also for the next it looks like next generation. it looks like the pension age is going up to 60, 77. by time we won't 60, 74, 77. by the time we won't be any money, they won't be is not sustainable , so they need to not sustainable, so they need to change it. i don't know how. but they look at it seriously. they're chucking money out for things and listen, i'm all respectful. i it's very important to look after the elderly for. me i'm not a pensioner and i think you know that that be right. but that that should be right. but they be careful they have to be careful that even they're doing this now, doing other things actually doing other things will actually make for a make it more expensive for a pensioner to live. so you know, okay, was help the energy pensioner to live. so you know, okthe was help the energy pensioner to live. so you know, okthe momenty help the energy pensioner to live. so you know, okthe momenty help theprices|y at the moment that the prices are up know everything the are up you know everything the food expensive .

food is more expensive. everything is more expensive just by just giving them just to live by just giving them this . but just to live by just giving them this. but then and then some of them then end a tax them will then end up in a tax bracket. they'll have to bracket. then they'll have to pay - bracket. then they'll have to pay . if look the pay tax. if you look at the health services decline, social services in decline, everything's in decline, you know, you'd like kicking football down let's like to qatar it keeps going. it's going to land in this is exactly like that but i've got to say if they've got savings look at the bank rates going up, all their savings are going to be eroded. if they do have any savings. banks aren't even passing at the moment. of the hike in moment. some of the hike in interest rates. you've got interest rates. so if you've got a account in, you're a savings account in, you're lucky have money. lucky enough to have some money. you high you just thought that high interest a good interest rates would be a good thing. hey, they're thing. but hey, hey, they're taking to do that taking the time to do that literally. and it shouldn't shouldn't be and i shouldn't be allowed and i actually think the government should looking at of should be looking at of clobbering those that, first of all, benefited heavily the pandemic due to their legislation . companies like legislation. companies like amazon , companies who delivered amazon, companies who delivered food companies did all that because we were not allowed to go out. but also, i think , you go out. but also, i think, you know, talking about

know, we're talking about reparation to uk. i think we reparation to the uk. i think we should be talking about reparation china you reparation from china and you know, should be know, the pandemic we should be looking well. but looking at that as well. but nobody's that nobody's at anything like that and. also reparations and this government frankly their government frankly of their awfulness with their their so—called chucking out money to different companies during the pandemic. and they're not even recouping it properly. well, that's it. i everybody's tax cuts some breaks . people cuts mean some breaks. people are people are are struggling. people are suffering. especially suffering. right especially working and actually, working people. and actually, this budget supports people this new budget supports people that than it that working far more than it supports that supports people that are working. you should working. and i think you should be be be encouraged. you should be better than better for working than not working from working this got it back from socialism is what it is. and this was a nation where everyone we love everyone, to chip we love everyone, want to chip in bit some of in and do bit some of the weakness by flourish and grow weakness by to flourish and grow .look weakness by to flourish and grow . look at what it is at the minute when they all when all the workers leave because they can't afford to live here. oh, definitely. well first stage in the play and we've got 42% of this nation don't pay any tax. well figures well migration figures as opposed leaving the uk opposed to people leaving the uk people leaving in their people are leaving in their droves age

droves and they're working age people well . so they have to people as well. so they have to be very careful and they're saying, well, know, saying, oh well, you know, we're open borders and all this and nobody come in. they're nobody wants to come in. they're looking the of living, looking at the cost of living, the thinking actually is this really place want to come really a place to want to come and because penny i and work? because every penny i have will going into taxes and inflation is now over 11. and many of the pensioners over the 12,500 tax free allowance. therefore they to start to pay tax when . i see my colleagues tax when. i see my colleagues i'm giving you i'm taking exactly like robinhood why but joe we this one thing the big applause always doing such a great thing for the old age pension good old jeremy no not good actually very rich men millionaires . one almost millionaires. one almost a billionaire making on how they're going to literally claim they're going to literally claim the middle class to everybody. but apart from the middle class themselves, i like the way it's going at all. then i don't think they're the right people to be doing the job at, but they're not so aspirational people. there's why people there's no growth why people going to work their socks off want. it's encouragement.

want. it's no encouragement. well, there's none because you might as stay at home might as well stay at home because that's what happened to the a of people the pandemic and a lot of people like but because going like that. but because going to get benefits you do get all these benefits if you do so if there's no incentive people to go to work because actually lot of people we actually a lot of people we better pay off not what. better pay better off not what. do that heading do you think that heading towards universal basic income do you think that heading towardpeople/ersal basic income do you think that heading toward people lersa get|sic income do you think that heading towardpeople/ersagetlsic irby�*ne where people just get paid by the government at home the government to stay at home and on the and therefore dependent on the government and therefore dependent on voting for them constantly and constantly them in power and they could be part of a wider, let's say, world, let's say i would have to call that conspiracy theory. but unfortunately, going say unfortunately, i'm going to say that's why i think jeremy hunt's trying whole of trying to sabotage the whole of the conservative. i really do. and forget what he is. and let's not forget what he is. thoughts over lockdowns thoughts were over lockdowns agreeing with china's regime do you think they're trying to mess the economy in such a way? not well actually purpose, but well, actually on purpose, but not because. know not really because. they know they're going be out. so if they're going to be out. so if they're going to be out. so if they and as much they that best and get as much money of us as possible money out of us as possible and try problem halfway, try and fix problem halfway, that's they destroying the that's they are destroying the economy way because that economy in a way because of that because bring in because they want to bring in the bank digital

the central bank digital currencies they want to bring in a new economic whereby bank a new economic whereby the bank of defines the currency of england defines the currency system much you spend system and how much you spend the you can spend it. do you the way you can spend it. do you think? well, think? i agree, yeah well, i want to be conservative. we're only going one way. well, that's they're going down now, really, frankly. show is frankly. but this show is nothing views. nothing without union views. let's great voices let's see if our great voices agree your to tell us agree with us. your to tell us what you think about the topics by how the by discussing how go for the wonderful all right going to start brian deacon from start with brian deacon from solihull always got solihull he's always got something what do something to say brian. what do you this pension you think about this pension triple? actually it? triple? is it actually worth it? if big picture if you look at the big picture out what's happen, out of what's going to happen, the class, are they the middle class, how are they getting i know getting the money? i know eventually end up being eventually it might end up being pensioners taxation. no, pensioners into taxation. no, i there are pitfalls and everything . if there are no everything. if there are no guaranteed uplifts of uplifts the state pension, then that it loses its it's eroded . and loses its it's eroded. and that's something i think that's which i think everyone agrees it's sacred that we support our pensioners that we actually have something place that safeguards

their lives as they as they progress progressively get older. and i think the argument in terms of course, working people, we are the ones burdened with with predominantly , but we with with predominantly, but we cannot lose sight of the fact these are people who have worked this country all their lives and, contributed a lot. and i giving back a little bit is something that we have to safeguard now. perhaps look , the safeguard now. perhaps look, the system of how it's system in terms of how it's calibrated but we need to have something place right now something in place and right now it's triple lock. it's the triple lock. but i actually that we do need actually agree that we do need to safeguard the money in way but my question is but ultimately my question is whether they're doing it but actually taking putting in one hand and taking in other. hand and taking in the other. let's if miranda richardson let's see if miranda richardson not brilliant miranda but not the brilliant miranda but she's in northampton, we she's there in northampton, we do miranda do this all the time. miranda what the what do you think? hi the general . and taken with one and general. and taken with one and given with the other, that is what every budget does was asked me or did you how's the budget. so what would you this i'm having that if they tighten it one they give back to the other that's how it works . i think we

that's how it works. i think we also have to remember this. this system's only been place since 2010. you know, it wasn't like groundbreaking. it's not been there forever . so actually, as there forever. so actually, as much there are some my much as there are some my parents are 84, 92, they are long, long pensioners. some of the newer pensioners haven't been paying into system as long as everybody else . to this point as everybody else. to this point we've got to look at that balance , you know, and there's balance, you know, and there's actually then there's younger people now that are working don't bother with the pension anymore . that is a good say. anymore. that is a good say. there'll be nothing in it for me at the end. well, that's how a lot of them probably disincentivise by rachel disincentivise by john rachel there kidderminsterwhat disincentivise by john rachel there kidderminster what do there in kidderminster what do you think that's yes hello hello as a 74 year old pensioner. no i don't want end with keeping the check. don't want end with keeping the check . absolutely. however if check. absolutely. however if you imagine if imagine the tories are doing this because they've got some principles in there ireland brass old age and i think you're in cloud cuckoo

land they're doing it because in two years time there's an election and they don't want to lose all the old people's votes. so they're looking after themselves. yeah we get a little bit of extra money out of it. hey, if i was at work now, part time , i wouldn't be in time, i wouldn't be in existence. i have no money, i'd be on the street. so got no time whatsoever for this government. as soon as i go , the better it as soon as i go, the better it right. let's get me on that bombshell , though. certainly. bombshell, though. certainly. what do you think? she's there milton keynes . good evening, milton keynes. good evening, nana. milton keynes. good evening, nana . then i guess i do think nana. then i guess i do think that the triple lock is worth keeping . the reason being is keeping. the reason being is that pensioners are not able to boost income even before the cost of living increases and the energy crisis. one in five pensioners were experiencing poverty. i do think that's increasing . keeping the triple increasing. keeping the triple lock you know, the triple lock is there against inflation, against earnings at more than 2.5, which is to which is 10.1.

so i do believe that keeping the triple lock is and vital for our pensioners. thank you very much a big thank you to my wonderful great british voices. miranda in northampton, to brian and sally howe joining them in stand. stephanie in milton keynes. thank you . right. so that's what thank you. right. so that's what they think. what do you think? it's good to hear thoughts it's good to hear your thoughts , time for a quick , but now it's time for a quick p0p , but now it's time for a quick pop it's the part of the pop quiz. it's the part of the show test and show where test my panel and some that are some the other stories that are hitting headlines now. hitting the headlines right now. let's puzzles. let's hear your puzzles. i'm joined cundy . let's joined by lizzie cundy. let's see a it and present fellows a couple of others robinson wonderful, wonderful now remember, do not trust the puzzle before finished. otherwise it's oh , and please otherwise it's oh, and please play otherwise it's oh, and please play along at home right. question one a couple is racing against clock 239 location of a certain franchise they closed down but which franchise is it is it a is it b weatherspoon or is it a is it b weatherspoon or is it a is it b weatherspoon or is it c prettyman ? oh, i don't is it c prettyman? oh, i don't know. was that was close last lizzie going to say you got the

guess it was b wetherspoon's b wetherspoons it is actually wetherspoons that , but you can't wetherspoons that, but you can't go the point because of the lazy days before. it's a very quick story . quick i had to look after story. quick i had to look after pamela anderson , who was doing pamela anderson, who was doing pantomime theatre pantomime at wiltern theatre with but she said, with this quiz, but she said, the only place i want to go is wetherspoons. you take me wetherspoons. can you take me there? to go right over there? i like to go right over there? i like to go right over the she loves. now, the spoons. she loves. now, that's very sad . oh, well, well, that's very sad. oh, well, well, the spent their 40th anniversary inside their favourite pop and was shocked that was was shocked. hear that it was closing down but they don't have any music there . they're now any music there. they're now desperate, visit many desperate, trying to visit many as before they closed as possible. before they closed to punters. what do you think would you go to wetherspoons with sam smith? right what i love about this. yeah love prospects. some sam smith says go to their proper english well i question to you don't get the anyway go to a woman in texas has been crowned with having the large living female large feet of a living female great. but what is the science? the saying closes answer wins . the saying closes answer wins. but what size of you ? six seven.

but what size of you? six seven. say or seven? what i'm going to say he saw it . he say or seven? what i'm going to say he saw it. he just say or seven? what i'm going to say he saw it . he just she saw say he saw it. he just she saw the answer. then she 12. a chelsea supporter, of course, like to cheat. yes. look at, the signs. wow, texans beat ramesses inches long, which means she was 17. the uk some people don't like see that's a new ip of 811 and a half. what about you? yeah, i'm a five and a half. oh, really ? if anything. three oh, really? if anything. three oh, seven, seven, seven. no, sometimes seven, seven. mainly the rock three. you got that right. no one liked it really? because you know . right. because you know. right. question three a dog toy in the shape of which public figure. i know what you're thinking . sold know what you're thinking. sold in popularity is . it a is it in popularity is. it a is it donald trump? is b, boris johnson or c, nicola sturgeon. bearin johnson or c, nicola sturgeon. bear in mind, it's going to grab in its jaws. lizzie going for donald trump. what about you, nicola sturgeon is it those haven't seen this is it.

nicola sturgeon is it those haven't seen this is it . yeah. haven't seen this is it. yeah. 0h haven't seen this is it. yeah. oh yeah yeah. that's going to buy that somebody has got a dog for christmas. what i spent £3,500 on lizz truss is dog toys only for her to quit after 44 days in office. but pet stores across the uk are selling them in the former scotland's minister nicholas sturgeon what do you did you like a dog toy like that made in your likeness? no, not really. what about you ? no, not really. what about you? it might have been cool, but no, not really. what about you? it might have been cool , but no, it might have been cool, but no, it's true or false question for one man has banned the use electricity in his house and is making his family wear head torches to save money during the cost of living rises or false? lizzie yes. and i have one of these in the fantastic you coven these in the fantastic you cover. it's true. it's sad, isn't it? it's true. it is true. it's sad . the family that to it's sad. the family that to change their habits, the necessities that energy bill will to £320 a month. what's have you had to make do to for this covid or am i energy bills have gone up crazy as well. you're going have for more heat . yes i'm the wearing because i

use just one little skimpy shorts. the house i'm putting on, the jumpers i'm being you know, well, well, well not saying that on the heating it's going on then what's the age and stop crying when all pay the same as know . no, no stop crying when all pay the same as know. no, no i stop crying when all pay the same as know . no, no i start same as you know. no, no i start crying. question crying. i'm crying. question five the five hancock is still in the jungle. he's managed to survive the elimination. who the first elimination. but who was first celebrity was the first celebrity to depart was it a? depart the jungle? was it a? charlie be bully or c mike charlie might be bully or c mike tindall ? it was indeed. charlie tindall? it was indeed. charlie white. 0h, tindall? it was indeed. charlie white. oh, and she was taking over with the cooking . let boy over with the cooking. let boy george just do bit bossy, not lady, but bossy. bossy. yeah. you're right. it is charlene white, the journalist was eliminated from the jungle first after receiving the least of pubuc after receiving the least of public votes, with many believing the former health secretary would be first. who are guys rooting for in the are you guys rooting for in the jungle? quickly, i am boy george. do nobody not it george. and do nobody not it because rubbish. about because it's rubbish. what about 7 because it's rubbish. what about ? don't know . ? matt hancock i don't know. he's winning all the trophies in today's show. none of them . today's show. none of them. we've been asking you if you're prepared vote labour. prepared to vote labour. according to our poll, 15% of

you yes. it only cent if you say yes. it is only cent if you say yes. it is only cent if you no. thank so much. you say no. thank you so much. my you say no. thank you so much. my broadcaster and my panel, broadcaster and columnist also columnist lizzie cundy and also gb presenter, father gb news presenter, father robinson. to you robinson. and thank you to you for your at home. i'll for your company at home. i'll see for enjoy see you tomorrow for enjoy looking ahead to this evening's weather and uk will be mostly dry but heavy rain will push in from west here in the details it starts off in the south—west of england and it will be a cloudy end to the with some rain starting to reach western parts of cornwall spreading all later overin of cornwall spreading all later over in the south—east it will be cloudy for some with outbreaks of rain, especially in london. other areas, though , london. other areas, though, have a clear evening turning cloudy across wales evening. so whilst eastern parts may have some clear spells , the cloud some clear spells, the cloud will thicken ahead of rain arriving later. cloud and a few spots of rain are likely the east midlands. meanwhile the west midlands should end the day . a dry and clear note before things turn wet overnight . a things turn wet overnight. a cloudy picture this evening for england. the odd spot of rain is

possible for many. it'll be dry . some low cloud may bring health to any higher routes , health to any higher routes, often cloudy for much of this evening with some rain, likely heavy rain arriving from the west overnight, spreading to all parts and becoming in the east . parts and becoming in the east. a very wet and windy for northern ireland . here, the rain northern ireland. here, the rain should clear during the first part of the night. so will be dner part of the night. so will be drier and clearer to start sunday. the band heavy rain will continue to sweep to all parts overnight with clearer but showery weather . that's how the showery weather. that's how the weather is shaping up into tomorrow morning .

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