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will disagree, but no one will be so joining today be cancelled. so joining today is author environmental, campaigner and international ambassador for the conservative environmental network , stanley environmental network, stanley johnson , and also a former johnson, and also a former editor of the labour list, peter edwards . before we get started , edwards. before we get started, let's get your latest news headunes. let's get your latest news headlines . good afternoon. it's headlines. good afternoon. it's 4:01 on rhiannon jones , the gb 4:01 on rhiannon jones, the gb newsroom, the fifa world cup opening ceremony underway in qatar to mark start of the tournament . al bayt stadium is tournament. al bayt stadium is hosting the opening match between qatar and ecuador. it's the first time the world cup's been held in the middle east. fifa is hoping action on the pitch will turn spotlight away from complaints over the arab nations. human record. all can speak to our reporter paul who's in doha for us. paul, what's the atmosphere like out there given the build up we've all seen so

far . yeah. hi, ryan. and i'll far. yeah. hi, ryan. and i'll tell what where we are at the moment and it's about 7:00, 7:00, that is the world cup countdown clock has been ticking down throughout the years and it's just got to zero. there was an everyone surrounding and it's still filming. in fact, there are no sign here the fact the world cup started. they've just been counting down the clock . been counting down the clock. and then it got to zero, and then when it got to zero, the huge cheer went up that the world had finally begun. and world cup had finally begun. and as ecuador kicking off as you say, ecuador kicking off against . it's going be against qatar. it's going to be not battle, the not exactly the battle, the heavyweights, be honest, heavyweights, let's be honest, but historic match. but it is a historic match. qatar, the world qatar, featuring in the world cup first time in their cup for the first time in their own cup in the first world own world cup in the first world cup held the middle cup to be held in the middle east, islamic country and east, an islamic country and smallest world cup, also a is world cup since 1978. so lots of games to pack over the next games to pack in over the next few take iran few days england take on iran tomorrow usa take home us. tomorrow the usa take home us. but at the it's ecuador but at the moment it's ecuador nil nil full thank very nil qatar nil full thank very much for the update and enjoy paul hawkins, our reporter in doha for us. and of course a name like rhiannon jones. let's

not forget about wales preparing for the country's first world cup appearance in 64 years captain gareth been talking about how disappointing it he was as a child unable to watch his country perform on the world's well. the welsh star says hopes it will inspire a generation . it's just one of generation. it's just one of those moments that a massive piece of history in our country, something that we've wanted for a long time and like said to be team that was to get over the line and do that for our country is incredible we know we have the support of nation back home no matter what happens, as long as we give 100% our will love us for that . comedian joe lycett for that. comedian joe lycett has shredded for that. comedian joe lycett has shredde d £10,000 of his own has shredded £10,000 of his own cash in protest at david beckham's role as an ambassador at the qatar world cup . online at the qatar world cup. online footage shows the throwing two bundles of notes into a. slice that had issued ultimatum to the

former england footballer after it was reported he'd signed deal with the tournament host worth up to £10 million. the comedian offered to donate the to lgbtq charities if beckham the sponsorship. sexuality is still illegal in cattle . in the us illegal in cattle. in the us five people have been killed and, 18 injured in a shooting . a and, 18 injured in a shooting. a gay nightclub in colorado spnngs gay nightclub in colorado springs. police have the suspect as 22 year old anderson lily aldridge . he's currently in aldridge. he's currently in custody and receiving for his injuries. the motive , the attack injuries. the motive, the attack isn't yet known . deputy police isn't yet known. deputy police chief outran vasquez has thanked those clubgoers that risked their own lives to try and stop their own lives to try and stop the attacker . initial evidence the attacker. initial evidence and interviews indicate that the suspect entered club q and immediately began shooting at people inside . as he moved people inside. as he moved further into the club while the suspect inside of the club at

least two heroic people inside the club confronted and fought with the suspect and able to stop the suspect continuing to kill you introduced today will mean terrorists that commit crimes behind bars will be given longer prison sentences all offences however minor , will offences however minor, will automatically be referred for . automatically be referred for. police investigation and potential . the ministry of potential. the ministry of justice . it will increase the justice. it will increase the likelihood the terrorists stay in prison for longer , create in prison for longer, create a bigger deterrent against further offending . justice secretary offending. justice secretary dominic raab describe gives it as a landmark agreement. the pfison as a landmark agreement. the prison and parole service crown prosecution service and counter terrorism policing . and rishi terrorism policing. and rishi sunak says more must done to tackle climate change after a funding agreement was reached at cop27. in the early hours this morning. the so—called loss and damage fund will help developing nafions damage fund will help developing nations bear the of disasters such as drought flooding.

however, a decision on exactly which countries pay has been left until 28 next year. sunak welcomes the measures but said in a statement there can be no time for complacency . united time for complacency. united nafions time for complacency. united nations chief antonio guterres says the deal isn't good enough . this is gb news will bring you more . it happens now though. more. it happens now though. let's return to nana akua . let's return to nana akua. good afternoon. it is fast approaching 7 minutes after 4:00 nana akua. this is on tv online and on digital right here . now, and on digital right here. now, i didn't know to laugh or cry when i heard this. if you've ever seen the film with science. he reminds me of the one on the note of i apologise for trashing the . party remember that guy

the. party remember that guy michael berryman.7 i love that film . have a listen to johnny film. have a listen to johnny speech. the president , fifa. he speech. the president, fifa. he starts by telling us he has very, very strong feelings. i have. there is strong feelings . have. there is strong feelings. i can tell you that today i feel qatari . today i feel arab qatari. today i feel arab. today i feel african . today i feel gay i feel african. today i feel gay. i feel gay. you either are or are . this is some more. let's hear some more . today i feel disabled some more. today i feel disabled . well what .7 today i feel . a

. well what.7 today i feel. a migrant worker. . well what.7 today i feel. a migrant worker . and the migrant worker. and the situation of hundreds of thousands of women and men from developing countries . who would developing countries. who would like offer their services abroad in order to help and give a future to their families back . future to their families back. home. well, qatar is offering them this opportunity . we know them this opportunity. we know that many died building the stadiums. i think that is taking a little bit far . stadiums. i think that is taking a little bit far. european actually, i am . european not actually, i am. european not just i feel european. i think for what we european have been doing in the last 3000 years around the world, we be apologising for the next 3000 years before starting to give

lessons . okay. so joking aside , lessons. okay. so joking aside, has he got a point.7 who are we to criticise qatar . look, i to criticise qatar. look, i can't stand virtue signalling and celebrities sitting on their moral high chairs on top of a load of cash. why.7 because moral high chairs on top of a load of cash. why? because the hypocrites. and in my view , if hypocrites. and in my view, if you are vocal about agreeing, if you're vocal about agreeing with the qatar regime , then don't go the qatar regime, then don't go and play there instead of virtue signalling with a load of paraphernalia. i mean, can you what the kit would look like wearing rainbow laces, armbands , kneeling, etc. they would end up looking like clowns . mind up looking like clowns. mind you, the joke's us as much as i would love them to win. england of course , we've got two hopes of course, we've got two hopes and one of them playing golf. that's bob hope. no hope. look, i agree with the regime in qatar and i question how they won the bid, which was, in my view, dubious circumstances . they even dubious circumstances. they even had to change the timetable. so it was hardly suited for

country. but yesterday i got my sparkling brand new mobile phone and struggling with the moment because nothing is actually what i meant. but i'm working it, which i was pretty sure components in it mind by slave labour and i'm probably wearing created through exploitation . i created through exploitation. i do my best to avoid this, but i'm not going to make a public show of how virtuous i am or demand removal of all links to slavery because i'm well aware that i'd be a hypocrite if i'm not prepared to dedicate my time to finding a solution that i'm part of the problem we all are. so is it time for the virtue signals to take the politics out of sport and just get on with the game? he who without sin cast the first stone . before we cast the first stone. before we get stuck into the debate, here's else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking should the uk adopt the swiss model. now

according to reports a senior government figures are looking to adopt a swiss style to adopt adopt a swiss style relationship with eu which is left hardline brexiteers up in arms. this was essentially strengthened economic ties with the bloc, but the uk would still retain control over the borders . meanwhile, the health secretary denied such claims. so i'm asking, should we adopt the swiss model . then at 458, well, swiss model. then at 458, well, the former us president donald trump has his bid for the white house. that's billionaire business magnet elon musk. let trump's ban on twitter. i'm excited about that. i can't wait to see what he's got to say. that's after i pull over, 51% of the people voted in favour trump's return to the social media site. so could trump in making a comeback. then it's five. it's this week's outside. now this guest is best known for wearing a trademark green lantern during a lively exercise routines in the eighties. she's she's a former print and catwalk and is known for her charity work. so can you guess who she is? all will be revealed later in the show. that's coming up in

the next hour. tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at. gb started. welcome again to my panel started. welcome again to my panel, author, environmental campaigner and international ambassador for the conservative network stanley johnson, and also former editor of the labour list, pete edwards writes, i'm going to start strongly . list, pete edwards writes, i'm going to start strongly. thank you very much for joining me. it's the first time on the panel i'm delighted to be here tonight. it's to have you here. and peter, you very much as well. so i start with we start with i'll with you go for it . so with i'll with you go for it. so what do you think of this then? there's a lot of virtue signalling in football, but if we actually at the full picture, none of us are really without sin. when it to this, we sin. when it comes to this, we pose challenge to the panel by pose a challenge to the panel by ending monologue with ending a monologue with a scripture and i'm part of the church i suspect many of church and i suspect many of your staff viewers might be your staff or viewers might be as well. so but that doesn't

displace think displace values. and i think it's to call out things we it's right to call out things we perceive as as long we do so perceive as as long as we do so with humility . and think the with humility. and i think the reason i've found some the reason why i've found some the and the other monologue not yours jenny at fifa was fifa yours but jenny at fifa was fifa awarded the world cup to uefa in incredibly dodgy circumstance . incredibly dodgy circumstance. we know that for example chuck blazer, former american football supremo, now deceased , took supremo, now deceased, took bnbes supremo, now deceased, took bribes and there's lots unanswered questions at the sunday times in particular have covered it. but everything that we recall today was known about qatar at the time that the world was awarded to them. so criminalise homosexuality or the system indentured workers where we can't move around between jobs as or i might in britain , jobs as or i might in britain, europe and so on and so on. so there's an awful lot monologue, but fundamentally the world cup should not be happening in. qatar, it is . i think there's a qatar, it is. i think there's a threshold and what football's can do if you don't boycott it .

can do if you don't boycott it. but i do have sympathy for things like laces because you might perceive them as the symbolic value only. but when you're a footballer playing in a tournament , once it actually tournament, once it actually starts there's relatively little you can do . i think wearing a you can do. i think wearing a badge or an emblem is perfectly sensible . we've all got doubts sensible. we've all got doubts about whether the legacy is going to be improvement in qatar's human rights or just a qatar's human rights orjust a regression to the status . but i regression to the status. but i don't blame footballers going what it might be the one chance in their career they have to play in their career they have to play at the world cup. the biggest event in sport. but it a disgrace the world companies in qatar and i think it's right that footballers use emblems like rainbow to stand up for communities bigotry but people might put to you that well, you know what about the history of the slave trade and all the things that happened in this country and in fact, across europe then stand up europe for us to then stand up and say, oh, how have every and say, oh, how they have every debate when chequered debate when have a chequered past standing while it past ourselves standing while it is true we do have a we do have a chequered past and there no

question about it shall we bear the burden of history every? single we do. i get back single thing we do. i get back the 1960s because i'm as old as that and i do recall that at one stage britain uk, england actually was because it was the engush actually was because it was the english cricket team and it did say we want a field in south africa , a team we want to have, africa, a team we want to have, and that did include in this. and the sport is political famous and is probably impossible to take to take politics totally out of out of sport. so you have question then is how you do how much do you not to? and i think that in this particular there will inevitably a certain matter of fact you. but you're signalling that that's something we just got to face. i think the main thing is to let the first person and get started. but i think it's been started. but i think it's been started already and it's underway. but you know, people in, general, they will see right in, general, they will see right in his speech to say what he

said because . i think actually said because. i think actually he's making a valid point. said because. i think actually he's making a valid point . don't he's making a valid point. don't particularly like the beginning bit that he did feel this. i feel that i found was a bit that was a annoying and a bit was a bit annoying and a bit irritating, which why i sort irritating, which is why i sort of slight at the mic. yeah, i really queried that. they used the 3000 years you'd the word 3000 years you'd have to chinese in a big to include the chinese in a big way were to say way if you were going to say 3000 and think 3000 actually. and think european as it were european civilisation as it were in of encroaching via in terms of encroaching via imperialism other imperialism on other civilisations are going 3000 civilisations are going for 3000 years. think of the spanish years. you think of the spanish invasion of south america. well that's you know five or 600 if you think the way the british in particular out the north american will got through in the 18th and 19th century so 3000 years an exaggeration and the chinese civilisation which is over 3000 years old, i'm not sure it had that kind of recognition unless you say that some of the things that were happening 3000 years ago in ying or yang china were or they probably were , we can't bear all probably were, we can't bear all the burden of history, but i

think the bureau right now know that movement is increasingly late to recognise and we see this , of course, with the this, of course, with the pressure to give back the benin bronzes and things like that. well, didn't they. it was okay that we can keep them. i thought they said it was okay. we keep they said it was okay. we keep the chieftain, it okay to the chieftain, it was okay to give would keep one, give the would keep the one, he'd them king. it he'd give them to the king. it i was reading about this. well, you know, peter, i hear you think right that we should think it's right that we should do could be doing do that. but we could be doing this everything. it doesn't this for everything. it doesn't end, well, how far end, you know. well, how far do we back? how much do we we go back? how how much do we carry with the signalling? surely leaders i mean, okay, you've phone there. you've got a mobile phone there. know, you've got it's probably got a one got components. got a new one today. i've done very today. i think i've done very excited i'm sure even excited about it. i'm sure even the i'm wearing. as i the clothes i'm wearing. as i said, they probably there's been some of very nice some sort of a very nice clothes. you very much, clothes. thank you very much, stanley. commented, stanley. and also you commented, peter. the point peter. thank you. but the point is been some is there's been some exploitation literally exploitation in literally everything we surely everything we do. so we surely we've got to stop this. otherwise we just carry. well, let say, i think that's let me say, i think that's that's challenge to that's really fair challenge to make, we all flawed make, because we are all flawed

as beings . and there was a as human beings. and there was a kind a christian point at the end of your monologue that notwithstanding that , it's still notwithstanding that, it's still right call things that right to call out things that are so in terms of are done wrong. so in terms of our know, there's our own, you know, there's 8 billion people in the we billion people in the world we can all small that mean can all make small that mean something us. so for example something to us. so for example i buy my coffee from i don't buy my coffee from starbucks because of concerns over the amount of tax i pay and so and on. but i'm so on and so on. but i'm completely and humble completely realistic and humble about has a multi about impact that has on a multi dollar company. should be dollar company. you should be more the impact more concerned about the impact that has on your that caffeine has on your health. peter well , three health. peter well, well, three coffees day as long as they're coffees a day as long as they're real be anti carcinogenic real can be anti carcinogenic that's probably another another point and then i'm the one to give out medical advice but to go stanley's point about history every country has done something wrong at some point china is doing awful things to weaker muslims today, the british muslims. today, the british empire brought learning and education, it also did an education, but it also did an awful wrong, including awful lot wrong, including violence in particular, horrific sex crimes and appropriation of land, america of course, has a very chequered history . so there

very chequered history. so there is no country that doesn't face incredibly difficult questions overits incredibly difficult questions over its past, particularly relation to imperialism . but relation to imperialism. but that shouldn't stop us calling out things that wrong today, whether it's egregious of poverty in britain or bigotry in qatar. i but having said that, the we shouldn't be you know, we're making a big deal out of everything. yes. it's in my view, it's some of the things they are doing is wrong . that is they are doing is wrong. that is they are doing is wrong. that is the way they live . they're the way they live. they're coming up in a big way in the context of the charming climate change debates. i will probably talk about this, but actually the what kept them going writing for the last minute was whether or not, there should be a front. so it were compensated compensate for the damage we the west in our dash to industrialisation caused in the developing and it's very interesting it isn't either and that's a political and historic argument and i think they came out of it in the end by saying,

yes , shall have this sort of yes, shall have this sort of fund. yes, shall have this sort of fund . but actually some of the fund. but actually some of the quote unquote, so—called developing countries who have turned out to be quite fossil developers, india and china in particular should be part of that. particular should be part of that . well, look, i think they that. well, look, i think they should be able to talking more about later on in the show. about that later on in the show. if you just join me welcome on board. a gb news where board. this is a gb news where live on tv online and on digital radio. don't forget to download the gb news app well where the gb news app as well where you can check the you can check out all the programmes now programmes on the channel now after it is time for after the break. it is time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking should the uk adopt model? now, adopt swiss model? now, according tory according to reports, a tory civil has reignited a senior government figure. it's looking to adopt a swiss style relationship with eu sources suggest the next ten years the uk are looking to strengthen economic ties with the bloc while still retaining control over freedom of movement. but downing street has attempted to dispel such claims. so i'm should adopt the swiss model should we adopt the swiss model ? as send me your thoughts ? as ever. send me your thoughts

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it fast approaching 4:24 o'clock. if you just joined welcome on board. this is we are the people's channel. now before the people's channel. now before the break we were discussing qatar world cup. let's see what you've been saying, at least he can feel who he wants as long as he doesn't do it in qatar . oh, he doesn't do it in qatar. oh, thatis he doesn't do it in qatar. oh, that is good. it is. i feel good.i that is good. it is. i feel good. i feel this in relation to that speech. very good. that's well, let's i love that . derek well, let's i love that. derek says that guy has a lot room within council. i send him a few bulb but but he and world football should seek help. it

embodies this. yes, we have a chequered past . qatar has these chequered past. qatar has these injustices happening today, not the past. it's today. i hear you. if you got a mobile phone, you. if you got a mobile phone, you probably got bits and pieces from china in that phone. and come on, we're all we're all culpable, but keep thoughts coming. time now for our coming. it's time now for our great british this hour. i'm asking, we swiss asking, should we adopt swiss model? reports have emerged model? now reports have emerged that the uk could planning to that the uk could be planning to a swiss style relationship with the eu over the course of the next decade in attempt to next decade in an attempt to remove trade now the remove trade barriers. now the model is a patchwork of liberalisation, harmonising action and cooperation, agreeing since switzerland is not a of the eu, but it has negotiated numerous bills , agreements that numerous bills, agreements that entail access to the single market and of course other areas. however at the cost of this, switzerland has to accept package deals from the eu which include accepting legislation . include accepting legislation. the country as opposed to the of

its migration policy and also a tightening of regulation in the financial sector. and this, of course has led to outrage amongst brexiteers who are with them calling . it a betrayal as . them calling. it a betrayal as. it would go against some of the key principles why the uk voted leave in 2016 in the first place. and of course this comes after chancellor jeremy hunt said that he was pursuing unfettered trade with eu that was causing alarm bells to ring for those who voted brexit. we believe that the government may believe that the government may be heading towards a softer and despite this government have insisted that freedom of movement and entry to the single market would not come back . market would not come back. downing street have responded to the claims and the report said . the claims and the report said. what are your thoughts for the great budget debate? asking should we adopt the swiss model ? i'm joined by ? well, firstly, i'm joined by former and political former brexit and political commentator lucy. commentator belinda lucy. belinda, thank you so much for joining me now belinda, let's just just go straight to cut to

the chase swinson okay. so it pays into the eu budget and it follows its regulations in order to access the single market. so would swiss style deal be a betrayal at the 2016 brexit deal and referendum result ? yeah, of and referendum result? yeah, of course it would be. you know, this wasn't a brexit is not an economic policy. this is where remainers got it so wrong and they keep brexiteers back and i get called bimbo and dumb all the time because i can't see how brexit has failed brexit has never been economic policy. a brexit a constitutional change all. it is giving a bag of tools to the government and saying make use those freedoms and new tools you may wish, but we need tools you may wish, but we need to be out of the eu institutions 100. because if you give the eu inch like switzerland did , they inch like switzerland did, they take a mile switzerland has been in seven years of talks now with

the eu because the commission didn't want it to have this deal that we're all talking about . that we're all talking about. they wanted more they wanted to power grab, they wanted eu rights to have the same as swiss workers rights. they wanted migration into switzerland just to keep their existing deal . the to keep their existing deal. the swiss had a very strong and firm government that said no way deal is off. now i do trust our parliament and they've given no reason for us to trust us. not one of the five major parties gives us any reason to trust that they won't buckle at the minute. pressure the eu to take more and more . we're reconnected more and more. we're reconnected back to any the institutions we must have nothing to do with the european courts , nothing to do european courts, nothing to do with paying a penny into their coffers. we are not their cash cow anymore and i've seen where that money goes and it is not spent wisely . and i worry that spent wisely. and i worry that the government is using the economic crisis to excuse to reason its way back . slippery

reason its way back. slippery connections with the eu and these these dark corridors of brussels as soon as we give them any more power back that is the slippery road back to rejoining through the back door in all but name. okay belinda we'll stay there because i'm joined by former minister for europe, dennis macshane. dennis, thank you very much for joining me. okay, your thoughts what okay, your thoughts and what would swiss model would adopting the swiss model put freedom of put risk the freedom of movement? course , would movement? and of course, would then be a betrayal terms of those who brexit , i think those who voted brexit, i think . well, firstly, of course it is quite right from her point of view , but in 2016, three days view, but in 2016, three days after the referendum, the great bofis after the referendum, the great boris johnson. i see you've his cuppa on your programme this after the nana said quote to the daily telegraph british people will still be able to go and work in the eu , live to travel, work in the eu, live to travel, to study, to buy, to settle down. they'll continue to be free rated access to the single . and a couple of weeks ago your lord wolfson probing the brexit a tory lord said what we've got

today is a brexit we voted for it it's right it's a fix to the fiddle by a few fanatics like david frost next diplomats very saw with it with with the foreign office. now i worked switzerland for 15 years i've up to my ears could bore about this for ever. the swiss put to a referendum just years ago not seven years ago six years ago that. seven years ago six years ago that . they should continue with that. they should continue with freedom of movement and the swiss voted in favour of that because they did it for their hospitals, their care homes. i it all the rest of it. we don't want it. i don't think we're going to get it. and switzerland is getting richer, rich with 27% of its population born in the eu they're not frightened of the i—word the immigrant word and the golden a minute. this is. no, no, no. hold on. just because voted no, just as people voted to leave , doesn't mean voted to leave, doesn't mean that there's an issue with immigration they're not scared of the immigrant word i think

of the immigrant word. i think people because people voted to leave because they borders to be they actually the borders to be controlled . that's what mean. controlled. that's what i mean. i that's a perfectly i think that's a perfectly reasonable people to ask. reasonable for people to ask. i'm belinda in as i'm going to bring belinda in as well you can have a chat well because you can have a chat with her on that as well because. belinda dennis talked about saying of about the i—word saying that of course are afraid course people are afraid of the which possibly of the which is possibly one of the reasons they to leave. now reasons they voted to leave. now that's ridiculous, as that's utterly ridiculous, as i know, many european of know, many european friends of massively . you can massively euroskeptic. you can be european and to leave the eu it has nothing to do with whether you are an immigrant not. it was about open borders. it was about eu law making . it it was about eu law making. it almost impossible to deport eu criminals are giving them far too many rights . and it was too many rights. and it was about the amount of money that they just sucked dry. they bled us for every penny we had and it disappeared into who knows whose purse without any accountability . there is so much more this in brexit is you can we can argue for hours pros and cons of brexit. but essentially it's just really reallocating powers from brussels back to our

national policy . and that is national policy. and that is what are you so afraid ? afraid what are you so afraid? afraid of this country? self—governing is it scared ? do i answer that? is it scared? do i answer that? have you seen what they've been doing? sorry. no, dennis, you answer. you've seen it . let's answer. you've seen it. let's that in switzerland. i've it very other european countries . very other european countries. people are bleeding, it's dry. our bad cold. richie talking about who? jeremy hunt . they're about who? jeremy hunt. they're just taking all of our money out to pay for medical agreements. the tories in the last ten, 12 years other countries lower inflation, better for heating bills. okay in the eu we don't have to be in the eu to do it. but the swiss should not in the treaty do, except there are a lot of personal advantages. i bumped into swiss citizen yesterday . i was out talking bumped into swiss citizen yesterday. i was out talking in rule out that whole area to do with the labour elections coming up and this guy converted . why up and this guy converted. why wise had to become british in order to keep working here

because those the brexit we voted for belinda wanted with the brexit proposed by secretive unelected unelected diplomats like lord frost and others fanatics working outside the country and this poor chap spent a lot of money to become british just to keep his old re working here. this is what we don't know what happened in the last fortnight. see the kids in the field. it is so it's a big story . this one has the right to sell out democracy . our powers for out democracy. our powers for a few trade and travel perks for a few trade and travel perks for a few wealthy people , because few wealthy people, because that's all the eu meant . it that's all the eu meant. it benefited. it benefited a tiny amount of people in this country . those who benefit from cheap laboun . those who benefit from cheap labour, those who had villas in provence that wanted to go and live there . and i can't see how live there. and i can't see how you can convince millions of brits that there were any benefits. the eu , by the way, benefits. the eu, by the way, you can still travel work in the

eu while your americans in paris. why are that? people over the world working in france can still do it. okay, so it is a bit more paperwork, but i'm so i'm not selling off democracy and the we have is voters and the stake we have is voters in society so rich in our own society so rich people can have an easier time in their villages. improvements, provence much, provence thank you very much, guys. let's see, she's a years political commentator. stanley so i could ask you, star who's taken out french citizenship ? taken out french citizenship? there's a villa in greece if he agrees with belinda, he's an . agrees with belinda, he's an. we'll ask him . what else can we we'll ask him. what else can we do in the debate? they're not. we'll ask him in the debate . i'm we'll ask him in the debate. i'm just saying why they love the eu itself in france. i for the country and for the people , not country and for the people, not the rich. gue thank very much paris. the rich. gue thank very much pans.the the rich. gue thank very much paris. the lindley sees . she's the rich. gue thank very much paris. the lindley sees. she's a former brexit mep and political commentator dennis macshane. former labour minister for europe. thank you both. thank you much is dvds. if you you so much this is dvds. if you just joined us this i'm nana akua we're on tv, online akua we're live on tv, online and digital . after the break. and digital. after the break. we'll with our great

we'll continue with our great british i'm asking, british debate. i'm asking, should adopt the should the uk adopt the swiss model ? should the uk adopt the swiss model? you'll hear the should the uk adopt the swiss model ? you'll hear the thoughts model? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel author. environmental and environmental campaigner and international ambassador for the conservative environment , conservative environment, stanley i'll say former stanley johnson. i'll say former editor of the labour list edwards and stay with and finally if it's this week's outside and my guest is best known for wearing a trademark green leotard during a lively exercise in exercise routines in the eighties. he's former model eighties. he's a former model and for her charity and is known for her charity work. i'll give you some more claims, but this is the word green goddess ring bell? she's this week's guest. first, though, let's get your latest news headlines . good afternoon. news headlines. good afternoon. it's 434 on rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. the opening of the gb newsroom. the opening of the fifa world cup is underway . the fifa world cup is underway. host nation qatar playing ecuadon host nation qatar playing ecuador. the opening ceremonies fireworks launched from the elevate with organisers saying inclusive tivity was at the forefront . hollywood actor forefront. hollywood actor

morgan freeman an appearance with the mascots from oprah world cups. it's the first time the tournament has been held. a muslim country in the middle east and has been overshadowed by a number of controversy. fifa's hoping action on the pitch the spotlight pitch will turn the spotlight back football. well, our back on the football. well, our reporter hawkins doha reporter paul hawkins is in doha for us , spoke to fans about for us, spoke to fans about their thoughts on the tournament. and can't fault the hospitality of the people the friendliness of the people. i know it is this big east meets west thing but you know you just have to expect respect people in their it's their cultures and it's wonderful actually i think wonderful and actually i think no alcohol is not bad thing. no alcohol is not a bad thing. it's typical england and they've always wanted it before they've kicked then it's a kicked the ball and then it's a massive disappointment . but it's massive disappointment. but it's fun. yeah, yeah, yeah, fun. yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. but you how feel how yeah. but how you how feel how are enjoying sir? it's are you enjoying it, sir? it's great. very goes very nice people. people are great here. yeah. clean, feeling yeah. nice, clean, safe feeling place. in. the us five place. good in. the us five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at a gay nightclub in colorado springs . nightclub in colorado springs. police have named the suspect as

22 year old anderson lee aldridge . he's currently in aldridge. he's currently in custody and receiving treatment for his injuries. the motive , for his injuries. the motive, the attack is not yet known . and the attack is not yet known. and rishi sunak says more must be done to tackle climate change . done to tackle climate change. after a funding agreement was reached at cop27 this morning. the so—called loss and damage pooled for countries most affected by climate change has been hailed as an historic moment. however a decision on exactly which countries pay has been left until next year at cop28. mr. sunak welcomes the measures, but says there can be no time for complete since a united nations chief guterres says the deal just isn't good enough. says the deal just isn't good enough . tv online and radio this enough. tv online and radio this is gb news is my to nana akua and a moment. don't go anywhere .

this is gb news live on tv onune this is gb news live on tv online and digital radio. i'm nana akwa and it's time for our great budget debate this hour. and i'm asking, should we adopt the swiss model now reports of the swiss model now reports of the march that the uk could be planning to adopt swiss style relationship with the eu over the course the next decade in an attempt to remove trade barriers. now. but at what cost? this is not outrage amongst brackets , with many calling it brackets, with many calling it a as it would go against of the key principles as to people voted to leave in 2016. in the very first place. but despite this , government sources have this, government sources have insisted that freedom of movement and entry to the single market would not come back down the street. has denied these . so the street. has denied these. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should we adopt the swiss? well, let's see what my panel of that. i'm joined by author, environmental campaigner, an international

ambassador for the conservative environment stanley . as environment network, stanley. as a editor of the libellous a former editor of the libellous , peter edwards. stanley, i'm going to start you. what going to start with you. what you think of the swiss style model seems to have a little bit more a bit more integration into policies. let's have a bit of background okay. a bit of background. i got to declare an interest. i was born in a very british people to join the services of the european commission back at the beginning of 1973, when had just joined of 1973, when we had just joined , of the first members , was one of the first members of election, the of the parliament election, the first direct elections in 1979. ihave first direct elections in 1979. i have fought very hard for the integration of uk and eu law and have been for writing quite lot of it. but where are we now ? are of it. but where are we now? are we now. we have withdrawal agreement, vague, solemn agreement, vague, solemn agreement by both sides. the eu and the uk. we have trade and cooperation agreement which says we have a level field, otherwise various things . first, things various things. first, things happen, we absolutely we need a level playing field because eu

is our major trading partner. so attempt which appears not to be going on as was to say oh well these sort of principles , not these sort of principles, not these sort of principles, not the principles of brexit and so on and so and i really worry at the conservative party , the tory the conservative party, the tory party is about to tear itself apart again europe and tear the country apart again over europe for reasons he doesn't need to do that we a withdrawal agreement . it is working. we agreement. it is working. we have a trading . it is working. have a trading. it is working. the biggest single threat to a continued sensible relationship with europe at. the moment is the fact we have tabled parliament. the so—called rees—mogg mogg retained eu legislation when he says and the government is saying because the government is saying because the government has taken over the rees—mogg bill and we will sunset something like 4000 eu drive laws by the end of by the end of next year. they've specifically retained ornamented and that by the way includes a

lot of the things i was very much responsible for which were in environmental field , but in the environmental field, but the kinds of things in the workers in consumer workers field, in the consumer fuel welfare fuel economy, animal welfare field threatened so field equally threatened. so what sensible thing now what is the sensible thing now to what rishi sunak to do? exactly what rishi sunak and mr. mr. mr. hunt say they are going to do and that is build new bridges with europe when is saying we're not out of europe, we are of europe, the by jove, we need some bridges is not bad is where this question of the swiss model comes into model the only option model is not the only option dennis to make sure in your hand he knows more about this than i do the swiss model is certainly one he dennis gave a very profound you know defence of the swiss in last swiss when i was in geneva last week and i can tell you there's no way those people are not swiss. swiss. but swiss. they are swiss. but nevertheless, the model nevertheless, the swiss model is only the european only one of them. the european economic area is another which has way in it. so these are has no way in it. so these are models, but the absolute priority now is to say, come on folks, grow , let not the tory folks, grow, let not the tory party trapped again as it rand

paul party trapped again as it rand paul. john major was trying to get in the maastricht thing through by as it were a few right wing as john major call them head bangers and i think he wasn't far from the truth on that this time round are not where major is because we where john major is because we have the government has a majority the that is not in hock to five or six five or six extremists there and hope to themselves. need to grow themselves. they need to grow they strength they need to have the strength of their convictions and that means absolute sticking to the terms of the uk withdrawal agreement to the tca and i would even going back into critical agencies like the european agency which already has six or eight non eu member states. and don't tell me that environment , don't tell me that environment, not a european issue . so i say not a european issue. so i say i hope very much that tim shipman's report right. i hope the government is exploring how it can really the relationship with the eu including by the way, you know the pan european organisations like the european council in europe and above all

ihope council in europe and above all i hope the government will put a stop . to the progress through stop. to the progress through parliament of the rees—mogg bill. okay, your thoughts ? well, bill. okay, your thoughts? well, first of all, i think we've got to take some of the fire in here of the debate, you know, as something that voted remain but immediately accepted the result in 2016. i was mystified when i heard belinda, the former brexit meps and she seemed meps speak and she seemed furious over the outturn of an argument that her team had won. and i wrote down a few of her phrases and slippery the dark of the eu rejoining eu by the backdoor and selling our democracy. and this is from some who won. if i find it utterly mystifying and this is not about virtues , fiddling is simply virtues, fiddling is simply about can we talk in a reasonable way about that is of crucial economic environment , crucial economic environment, social importance, and so on and social importance, and so on and so on. on the actual substance of a fascinating story in the sunday times, i think think is going to happen because the swiss model and you know,

there'll be whole books written on this that probably none of us have the time or the energy to read. but the swiss model involves paying eu involves paying into the eu budget. now, is rishi sunak a brexiteer prime minister, going to put his hand up and say, can we pay into the eu budget? is keir starmer the labour leader this ? i'll my party had. this? but i'll say my party had. i think we're coming out of it, but a slightly uncomfortable time talking about brexit in the last five years. keir starmer is clearly to go knocking clearly not going to go knocking on pay into the eu on doors like we pay into the eu budget. inconceivable. the budget. is inconceivable. the only it could possibly happen and would be a majority. libdem which is clearly for the birds. so i think the premise that we have a swiss model based on handing over tax pounds to the eu is just a complete non—starter. but you could have the eu model, for example, the eu, the european economic area, where other countries aren't involved . and of course your involved. and of course your members of the. but the eea itself has a trading relationship the with eu relationship with the with eu that be very tough it that will be very tough it because i i think keir because i mean i think keir starmer has rightly given

various trying to of various speeches trying to of settle and perhaps a little bit of voter particularly in the red wall about labour stance on brexit. but he did say quite early on not just we accept the result but we accept we're not going back into the single market. we accept not market. we accept we're not going back. customs union, going back. the customs union, you i think the all just you know, i think the all just out of the one sixth the awful events in ukraine remind us that there a political and moral there is a political and moral in for big in coming together for big picture things that transcend routine policy policy debates. we all what's happening in ukraine is an act of evil but i don't think any type of economic model takes us back to single market or customs union is just on the blackboard at. all. can i just come in just briefly, your comment about belinda and the things that she said , can you things that she said, can you not see how she may see things that way? and a lot of people devoted to believe see things that way because of the so many, so many numerous obstacles placed in their way. every even when the vote was cast, people

were trying to upturn it and overturn it. so there is a level of distrust as to whether this a genuine attempt to make brexit work and the brexit people really want it doesn't to work because frankly , there have been because frankly, there have been so many obstacles started as well. i would like to come in, i go back the single market. the single market, one of mrs. thatcher's sterling . i was in thatcher's sterling. i was in brussels at the time and what was it based on was based on trying to get the same sort of product standards, the same sort of process. so countries knew that when were exempting products from other countries or exporting products to other countries, more less the same countries, more or less the same were therefore were being applied. therefore there need for tariffs or there was no need for tariffs or quotas or whatever, and that was a fine principle and i'm very sorry hear you say that the sorry to hear you say that the labour said we're not labour party has said we're not going to have to do with the single market. i'm not talking the single market with capitalism, i'm talking about a trading an trading area where there was an approximation standards and approximation of standards and that be vital. and that seemed to be vital. and that seemed to be vital. and that includes of course, basic things like environmental, animal say animal standards. and i'd say

it's issues as it's a human rights issues as well. so don't rule that out. there are plenty ways of achieving that for example. we could just the status could just maintain the status quo the uk eu quo defined in the uk eu withdrawal agreement, which is the fine agreement it has by the way, including it some non regression clauses so that you don't, as it were, expect not to be challenged by your let be challenged by your if you let your environmental standards slip. are good things . slip. these are good things. what worries now is the what worries me now is the movement the government seems to be to all that up . be making to rip all that up. listen, let's find out what our viewers think of that, because this shows nothing them. let's welcome our great voices on to the show to tell us what they think about topics we're think about the topics we're discussing west. go, let's go discussing west. we go, let's go to bristol, quite like bristol. lovely of lovely lovely that. lots of lovely animals . lovely that. lots of lovely animals. leigh harris sees of them. i couldn't resist, leigh. i did, quite rightly so. what do you then, do you think? but then there was sort of talking about a sneaky entry towards a sort of sneaky entry towards the eu and single free movement of people and that slippery slightly slope. what's your view

on all of this ? i'll be honest, on all of this? i'll be honest, i was completely baffled . i saw i was completely baffled. i saw this story the times today. i it's hard to believe it's even true. i mean imagine seeing the catastrophic polling and thinking it might be a good idea to float at the moment. i mean it is utterly ridiculous if this rumour has any truth to it. the conservatives really are in self—destruct mode. it would be a betrayal of biblical proportions . a betrayal of biblical proportions. but to answer the question , absolutely not. as you question, absolutely not. as you said, it will go against key, key principles of brexit and it breaches clear red lines of closer integration, open borders , paying closer integration, open borders , paying money to the eu the end of the role of the ecj for example, and not manifestos seem to mean anything anymore. but it is also a clear breach of the manifesto commitment . is also a clear breach of the manifesto commitment. no is also a clear breach of the manifesto commitment . no closer manifesto commitment. no closer union to the eu . but like the union to the eu. but like the panel have already said i honestly don't believe it is . honestly don't believe it is. this is a real thing because the eu would never go for it anyway

, especially if we stick to our red lines of not having any freedom of movement and things that they're just not going to offer it. so i don't it's even on the table. but one thing i'd go to why i baffled go back to why i was baffled with this. conservative need with this. the conservative need to very careful. their to be very careful. their voter base, included , are already base, me included, are already like super despondent from hunt . gutless, defeatist , embracing . gutless, defeatist, embracing labour budget . so any suggestion labour budget. so any suggestion of reversing or messing with brexit will easily, easily just be the final nail in the coffin. i don't , of course, that's i don't, of course, that's already to be said . the already to be said. the infighting will carry on. well we don't want that. i mean, you know how that goes. harris, it's always good to talk to you. thank very much for that, leslie harris. he's a great british voice. he's there bristol. voice. he's there in bristol. might as have quick look at might as have a quick look at what saying, what you've been saying, lynne says. do the swiss says. even if we do the swiss model, we don't have control of our borders anyway. yeah good point. michael, we point. actually, michael, we voted go it voted for brexit so we can go it alone as a free and independent sovereign country. so we shouldn't that shouldn't adopt. anything that ties eu get the

ties into the eu get the ramona's out of the conservative party, elliot says. definitely this is that is ridiculous. we currently a poll i've got a poll up asking should we adopt the swiss model? and so far , 24% of swiss model? and so far, 24% of you say yes, 76% of you say no, hosain, go me, i'm nana akua. this is a gds tv online and on digital radio. after the break, it's digital radio. after the break, wsfime digital radio. after the break, it's time for world view and former us president donald trump has announced his bid for the white house and that is this billionaire business magnate. elon musk wants twitter ban, so could be making a comeback on twitter . that's on the way after twitter. that's on the way after this .

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live on tv and on digital radio andifs live on tv and on digital radio and it's time for world view. the war rages on in ukraine and thatis the war rages on in ukraine and that is prime minister rishi sunakis that is prime minister rishi sunak is the ukrainian counterpart. a lot of resiliency to perhaps counterpart. a lot of resiliency to perhap s £50 million to help to perhaps £50 million to help with the war effort . so joining with the war effort. so joining me talk about all things that me to talk about all things that are russian is political commentator and russia expert danny armstrong . right. so, danny armstrong. right. so, danny, we ricci in his prada shoes when all this shows how to see probably i went off to see volodymyr zelenskyy they're about the same height i shouldn't you know something wrong with that but were wrong with that but they were that's what did you make that's a fact. what did you make of they called a of him that. well, they called a surprise visit? i don't think it was any element of surprise at all. i it's pr for the all. i it's good pr for the prime minister, of course he's only been in the job he's premiership started not long ago he's talked tough about russia it all seemed scripted from where i was standing. but he's got to do these things mean these is just is going through

these is just is going through the motions really as we saw as i'm sure stanley would would remember boris johnson going over to ukraine of course when everything was kicking off back home. it was one of the things that that he could count on to say, look, i was doing the with ukraine. this is what we've we pledged as uk of course the only behind the us in pledging aid and a us sunak has pledged another £50 million. he's than empty platitudes, but we're not really sure where that money's going, of well, that's going, of course. well, that's the have had a lot so the point we have had a lot so far haven't they. yeah. that when was of like when boris went it was of like rambo the wind blowing in rambo with the wind blowing in his head when he's slightly different. slightly different. yeah. was funny going yeah. i mean it was funny going you was a lot of it but we you know was a lot of it but we heard from the ukrainian side of course kerry really course we had kerry really con on and talking about they on friday and talking about they need more air defence and they need more air defence and they need more air defence and they need more money funnelled from the us and from europe . the the us and from europe. the truth is they've had tens of billions of dollars and euros poundsin billions of dollars and euros pounds in aid already. billions of dollars and euros pounds in aid already . what pounds in aid already. what they're actually pushing for is

f 15 and f—16 fighter jets. they're actually pushing for is f 15 and f—16 fighter jets . they f 15 and f—16 fighter jets. they don't come with our nato membership and to provide a shield over western ukrainian , shield over western ukrainian, particularly where the missile , particularly where the missile, the air defence missile from ukraine and if landed on the village poland, of course, as we know , as we've seen from the us, know, as we've seen from the us, that evidence, the analysis that it does look like it was a ukrainian air defence. well that's this they want to that's so this they want to prevent but what they are prevent that but what they are asking for is it's not really a monetary solution. is nato monetary solution. it is nato membership that would provide them with the advent of see why they can't defend things , stop they can't defend things, stop they can't defend things, stop the missiles from landing . i the missiles from landing. i mean, that's not really attacking russia . all donny, attacking russia. all donny, it's always good to talk to you. thank much, mike. let's thank you so much, mike. let's travel the united states travel over to the united states and have a chat with the host of the politics people podcast. paul w is because trump has announced that he's running for announced that he's running for a second term, but can do it. what do you think, paul ? can he what do you think, paul? can he win the can he win the

nomination? yes, i think can cannae ultimately win the presidency again, i think that there are too many forces lodged against him. i think got to fight the republican party , fight the republican party, don't want him. and then he's going to fight the establishment. i have to. i think he won in 2016. remember he didn't win the popular vote. he didn't win the popular vote. he won in 2016 because nobody thought he had a chance. and so they asleep at the they were all asleep at the wheel. i think me, the you wheel. i think for me, the you can see what's happened in the midterms he has become such a demonised that people don't campaign anymore they double their campaigns they treble their campaigns they treble their campaigns they treble their campaigns . their campaigns they treble their campaigns. i think on a wider i think it's the i don't think that's a bad thing necessarily i don't think the presidency if you're moving towards globalism this is what he talked about in his in his speech by the way he did talk about the that he was resisting globalism , i think he's become globalism, i think he's become a more powerful almost above presidency. he sort of

represents the people against the political establishment which is in that direction. so actually i think that it's moot point for me. i hope he wins it. i'll campaign vigorously for him . but i think that there are so many . i'll . but i think that there are so many. i'll tell you . but i think that there are so many . i'll tell you what's more many. i'll tell you what's more important for me than him becoming again is i hope he destroys the republican party in its current form much the way. we're talking about the conservative party in the uk. they keep like they're conservatives . this is the conservatives. this is the republicans and then they rule as just another international party. so i think he has a bigger role in taking down the republican party. and i think that that's part of the agenda that that's part of the agenda that would be interesting, really, i feel bad because i'd actually like to see him win again. i'm sure a lot of people would. but what about twitter? because been unbanned this this could be do you think he'll start using again don't you start using it again don't you think moved on because he think he's moved on because he had sold and then there had truth so sold and then there was friend who has guetta

was his friend who has guetta i mean, you think he'll get mean, do you think he'll get back on the right? yes. in short, i think he will eventually back on there. the problem is with his with truth, social is these actually he's banned for 30 minutes after posting. so he has post first on truth social before he can post on twitter any way or any other social platform. and so , look, social platform. and so, look, nobody's really using truth social. so there's going to have to be a an understanding at some point that , maybe take that dog point that, maybe take that dog behind a bomb and shoot it at some point because. it's really not happening to social. so he will be , i believe, moving back will be, i believe, moving back to twitter . but it won't be to to twitter. but it won't be to it won't be exclusive content for 30 minutes. but he has i mean it is the i've just been permanent banned from twitter. so, you know, then i have government without me but yeah i said the man can be a woman or something. but anyway, so they think so he will be back .

think so he will be back. exactly. but don't that you'll get banned from twitter. but i he will be . but twitter almost he will be. but twitter almost needs him more than he needs twitter, frankly. i mean, look , twitter, frankly. i mean, look, the you know, look at the coverage. you because it is it is the journalistic it is the journalistic hub of the world. there's no getting around it. well, listen, paul, it's good to talk to is, as paul dr pieser says, the politics people podcast. he's that in america. right. this is gb news more to come in the next hour. this is gb news is just gone 5:00. i'm not a man live on tv onune 5:00. i'm not a man live on tv online and on digital radio for the next me and my panel, we'll be taking some of the big topics, hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it says. and of course , it's yours. says. and of course, it's yours. we'll be debating. discussing it. we will disagree, it. at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled .

but no one will be cancelled. joining is author joining me today is author environmental , joining me today is author environmental, campaigner and international ambassador for conservative environment network stanley johnson former stanley johnson and former editor of the label is peter edwards . now, before we get edwards. now, before we get started, let's get your latest headunes. started, let's get your latest headlines . good afternoon. it's headlines. good afternoon. it's 5:01. i'm rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. the fifa world cup is underway in qatar with the host nation playing ecuador in the opening game is currently half time with ecuador winning two nil at the moment. it follows the opening ceremony , follows the opening ceremony, the al bayt stadium to kick things earlier. it's the first time the tournament is being held in a muslim country in the middle and has been middle east and has been overshadowed by number of controversies. fifa's hoping action the pitch will turn action on the pitch will turn the spotlight back to the football . meanwhile england football. meanwhile england manager gareth southgate has confirmed team will take the knee of their first game against iran. so three lions have made

the controversial against racism . an the controversial against racism. an matches since cobus and will do it again tomorrow . and let's not it again tomorrow. and let's not forget about wales , of course, forget about wales, of course, preparing for the country's first world cup appearance . 64 first world cup appearance. 64 years captain gareth bale's been talking about how disappointed he was as a child, unable watch his country play on the world stage while the welsh star says he hopes his teens achievements will inspire a generation . it's will inspire a generation. it's just one of those moments that is a massive piece of history in our country, something that we've all wanted for a long time. and like i said to, to be the team that was to get over the team that was to get over the line and do that for our country is incredible and we know we have the support of a nafion know we have the support of a nation back home no matter happens as long as give 100% our country will love us for that . country will love us for that. comedian joe lycett has shredded

£10,000 of his own cash in protest. david beckham's as an ambassador at the castle world cup. online footage shows the comedian throwing two bundles of notes into a. mr. lewis it had issued an ultimatum to the former england footballer after was reported he'd signed a deal with . the tournament host swiss with. the tournament host swiss after £10 million. the comedian offered to donate the money to lgbtq charities if beckham ended the sponsorship . homosexuality the sponsorship. homosexuality is still illegal in cattle . in is still illegal in cattle. in other news in the us, five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at a gay nightclub in colorado springs. police have named suspect as 22 year old anderson lee aldridge . year old anderson lee aldridge. he's currently in custody and receiving treatment for his injuries. the motive for the attack is not known. deputy police chief adrienne vasquez has thanked those club goers who risked their own lives to try and stop the attacker. initial evidence and interviews indicate

that suspect entered cup club q and immediately began shooting at people . as he moved into the at people. as he moved into the club while the suspect was inside the club, at least two heroic people inside . the club heroic people inside. the club confronted and fought with suspect and were able to stop the suspect from continue to kill and rishi sunak says more must be done to climate change after funding agreement is reached at cop27 this morning. the so—called loss and damage fund help developing nations bear the cost disasters such as drought and flooding. however, a decision on exactly which countries pay has been left until next year. at 28, mr. welcomes the measures, but says a statement there can be no time for complacency. united nations chief antonio guterres says the isn't good enough . this is tv isn't good enough. this is tv news and bring you more as it happens now though it's back a

nana akua . nana akua. gb news where live on tv online and. on digital radio. now i always like to sort of flick through papers and things, see things that sort of shock me and i simply let this one go. i didn't want to do it, but i thought, i have to because prince harry and meghan markle out of ac, the prestigious and prestigious human rights awards, for structural for calling out structural racism royal racism within the royal household. now sussexes household. now the sussexes receive the robert kennedy human rights ripple of award on december the sixth and are being recognised as standing up to racism . now wait a minute , they racism. now wait a minute, they actually mention who made that racist and what specific instance if they call it out on. i really want know because they didn't appear to be brave enough name so—called racists in

name these so—called racists in my view. a comment regarding skin colour of a mixed race child is one i had with my ex. well listen, this is the story we wanted to name my son ivory , we wanted to name my son ivory, but then we laughed at the suggestion that it would be funny came out as me to funny if he came out as as me to get he's ivory . that was in get it. he's ivory. that was in no way racist. and recall until late queen's words , the late queen's words, the allegation she . while some allegation she. while some recollections may vary, they are taken very and will be addressed by the family privately. harry making an archie will always be much loved family members . this much loved family members. this so—called racism hasn't actually been confirmed by anyone . the been confirmed by anyone. the royal household apart from them . as i mentioned yesterday, within the two years they saw off nine members of the royal staff , now recipients of this staff, now recipients of this include people like the ukrainian president zelenskyy and bill russell , a former and bill russell, a former professional basketball player and civil rights figurehead . can and civil rights figurehead. can ihave and civil rights figurehead. can i have one as well? oh of these

sports i've stood up against racism my life. apparently, the darker you are, the more you cope. and i've been here for a lot longer than meghan. i'm considerably older. this should get a raspberry ripple . i'm get a raspberry ripple. i'm sorry, but in my view, they've done more harm than good . done more harm than good. despite the inconsistencies were pointed out in the opening . i pointed out in the opening. i can't believe that people are still falling for this cack should they get the award? email me your thoughts. should they get the award? email me your thoughts . so to kick off me your thoughts. so to kick off the hour, here's what else is coming up today. now, each sunday at 5:00, i'm joined by celebrity, a former mp or someone who is an extremely interesting career. take a look at life after the job. we talk highs and lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. and this week's guest , best for wearing guest, best known for wearing a trademark green leotard during lively exercise routines in the eighties. she was dubbed the green goddess . she's eighties. she was dubbed the green goddess. she's a former print and catwalk model and is

not known and is also known for her charity work for breast cancer awareness. so can guess cancer awareness. 50 can guess it cancer awareness. so can guess it is. of course, it's diana moran. she'll be alive in the studio next. then on the way, the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, asking uk play pay hour, i'm asking uk play pay climate reparations. officials stark struck a historic cop deal that cop27 i think they said they'll postpone it till cop28. that's a decision by the wealthiest will contribute to a loss and damage fund to help more vulnerable countries to combat climate change . but is combat climate change. but is this fair? should the uk be paying this fair? should the uk be paying into a fund during the cost of living crisis and? are we actually to blame ? email we actually to blame? email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me . gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me. gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me. gb news. so it is time for this week's outside and anyone knows anything about exercise and health will have heard of the green goddess diana moran. one of the leading faces when it

comes to fitness promoting exercise in segments excuse me on bbc time at the publishing a vast number of books dance class show no signs of slowing down . show no signs of slowing down. despite her successful career, diana's life has been not its hardships. back in may 1988, diana was diagnosed with breast cancen diana was diagnosed with breast cancer. she fought bravely. and managed to beat her illness . and managed to beat her illness. and ever since then, she's been advocate for breast cancer . advocate for breast cancer. diana has even tracked the great wall of china to raise money for charity and still motivating people to get out of their seats and exercise with her with her web based videos . i'm very web based videos. i'm very pleased to say that diana joins live in the studio now . diana, live in the studio now. diana, thank you so much for joining live in the studio now. diana, thank you so much forjoining me . absolutely delighted. and of course, in your trademark green and favourite green. thank and my favourite green. thank you. so, donna, talk to me about how you started up into . what how you started up into. what was your thing? i mean, i'm a gymnast. i love exercise. it does everything . me. but what does everything. me. but what about you? what your reasoning? i was brought in the country and

i was brought in the country and i had a and boy cousins and anything they could do. i that i could do just as well. i had long legs, which was a great help. so much so that, you know, i ran for the county and all this sort of business. and i decided that when i grew up, i wanted to be a pet mistress, a physical training mistress. my father would have none of it whatsoever. i wasn't to do anything like that. so i became anything like that. so i became a personal and welfare officer, which i because i love being with people and people, but lost . i was doing this in a big department, little store, blue me. i was asked to be a model as well for a charity show and that's how i got into the modelling of things as well. and thenit modelling of things as well. and then it all came back together . then it all came back together. then it all came back together. the years went on and. somebody asked me to go to butlins . and asked me to go to butlins. and the island. i love butlins. yeah and in minehead and they that i was very sporty . they said, why was very sporty. they said, why don't you put some sort of sporty activity together for all

the members of a family. when dad , grandma, little kids, the dad, grandma, little kids, the lot and i put a fun keep fit session together and that's how it all started out of the tv . it all started out of the tv. and somebody sport you doing it all? well because on the modelling it went on to my doing local adverts for trw television wales in the west, which became a tv holic television and. i did adverts them. then they asked me to do an exercise. exercise spot on an afternoon and blow me. the bbc head hunting for the start of bbc breakfast time . and so of bbc breakfast time. and so suddenly i got a call at home one day. hello, this is the bbc? hello. i do work for the bbc. i work for itv and. they said we'd love you to be one of our original members of bbc breakfast . that's how it all breakfast. that's how it all started . and i said, oh, do you started. and i said, oh, do you want me to wear red or butlin's

red? i went, oh, no, no no, nothing like that. and that's the green party is green. it's green. your favourite . it's one green. your favourite. it's one of my favourite. that's probably my most of the colourful greens mine . oh, you are ? so you were mine. oh, you are? so you were doing that for quite some time, as i can remember, because i used to watch it. yeah, i saw 1983, february 1983. we started . and i did it for four and a half years every weekday. we didn't do weekends that stage. and i went over the place with the army. the navy , children at the army. the navy, children at school, people, you know, people homes and the likes of it was really great fun. and then i had breast cancer. yeah and you know, you were quite young . i know, you were quite young. i was. i was 47 at the time. so that's what is it, 35. 36 years ago now , you and i had immediate ago now, you and i had immediate treatment at the royal marsden hospital , london. absolutely hospital, london. absolutely amazed . in place. and i was very

amazed. in place. and i was very lucky . had a bilateral lucky. had a bilateral mastectomy immediately. what does that mean? so they take both take both of breasts away. you can imagine in a leotard and tights how that was going to affect me. and they did reckon structure and they were just experimenting with reconstruction at that stage. i didn't tell anybody . reconstruction at that stage. i didn't tell anybody. i was so ashamed . i had cancer. i was the ashamed. i had cancer. i was the fitness lady, for goodness sake . i couldn't be having things cancen . i couldn't be having things cancer. so as ashamed of it, kept it secret . and six weeks kept it secret. and six weeks later , i was back on air. i was later, i was back on air. i was in my green leotard and types and i took the all the morris dancers from up in birmingham. i've just forgotten their names now through a minute routine and i thought gosh am i ever going to manage this ? and i did. and to manage this? and i did. and that was it. so six weeks after your treatment , you were up and your treatment, you were up and exercising again ? yeah, well, exercising again? yeah, well, only for only for that . you only for only for that. you

wouldn't do that again. do something like putting a face on, i can tell you. well that that's brave. so how you how that's brave. so how did you how did find out about cancer? was there a lump the way you felt now this is the interesting bit. there lump there was there was no lump there was nothing at i nothing like that at all. i didn't know that i had at didn't know that i had cancer at all. i hrt not so young, but hrt 50 100. well done, lady . this 50 100. well done, lady. this hrt was coming in from the states at that time and a clinic in london were looking guinea pigs in london were looking guinea pigs to. find out how a menopausal woman was with hrt and i went , menopausal woman was with hrt and i went, yes, i can do that. i'm a menopause woman. 4748 and so i went to the clinic and they said, well , just got to do some said, well, just got to do some fitness tests on oh fine, don't you fit in? and they said, no we have to do this of course, mir, a mammogram , heart and lungs and a mammogram, heart and lungs and all the rest on that mammogram

was found. my cancer in both breasts and i not gone for that i was too young to be screen and you know, because they were screening at 50 and i was only 47. so i mean , i lucky that it 47. so i mean, i lucky that it was, you , but you were was, you, but you were ridiculously lucky. and the thing is, it's the people want a very good friend of mine ended up with he had throat cancer and then but he's he's he's okay he's going through the treatment but because so fit. do you know it's you say that because i remember one of the surgeons to me and saying diana this is terrible. yes but you are so fit that's the thing you are going to get through this and i didn't believe it at the time, but he was so right and exercises is a very, very good medication to get you. keeping everything going, keeping him motivated. you i'm breast cancer is you know, i'm breast cancer is the most common cancer for women. one in seven women at some time during their life will get it and 39% of ladies do not check their breasts and 80% of

the breast cancer is in women over 50. so you get there and just be checking . well, there's just be checking. well, there's a new blood test as well we talked about a couple of weeks ago right. you can actually spot that you have cancer and it even tell you the organ of origin and they can actually spot early cancen they can actually spot early cancer. so it's stage one and two. oh, that literally it is at the moment. it's like about £1,000 . £1,000 have the test. £1,000. £1,000 have the test. but if it saves your life. i mean, you know, if you've if you've got it. but they're hoping to try and get it into the nhs as well, which obviously the nhs as well, which obviously the earlier the breast cancer is diagnosed better. talk me diagnosed the better. so talk me about you've done then, about what you've done then, because you a lot of because i know you do a lot of support work too. but when breast cancer awareness, have breast cancer awareness, i have always work since always done charity work since i was 19. started with was about 19. i started with bristol on people's welfare so old people i love helping them but of course because had the breast cancer i then immediately started working with what was breast cancer care. it's called breast cancer care. it's called breast cancer care. it's called breast cancer now they

amalgamated several charities together and i think you put up a clip my walking trekking to the great wall of china. all sorts of things like that. and all the sort of pink walks they did for years and years . did for years and years. thousands of women in front of me. i did an exercise to get everybody charged up and ready to go . so that's one of my very to go. so that's one of my very important ones. but i've continued to work age uk then of course osteopathy house. this is something that is very interesting to me . my father had interesting to me. my father had osteoporosis and i started working the national osteoporosis society and then we had a rather famous lady , our had a rather famous lady, our patron who is now the queen consort. and so all know that royal osteo is similar. yes and then of course, there are two local ones near where i live at home. one is white lodge. i was with them last night and they work young children with

cerebral palsy and the other one that i work for you probably know, sir richard stilgoe , and know, sir richard stilgoe, and he runs what's called the orpheus , which . for disabled orpheus, which. for disabled rather more older people. it's sort of teenagers , slightly sort of teenagers, slightly older. and i don't know whether you've got up on your screens at all, but i'm a painter , you all, but i'm a painter, you paint, so i'm a painter painter. goes on about 100 paint. oh, yes. there we go. if you're watching tv, you can see it now. otherwise, go on. download the app. this was for me so it's still goes two nights ago and i put it in that particular painting . it went put it in that particular painting. it went in put it in that particular painting . it went in auction for painting. it went in auction for £500 and then somebody in the audience said , oh, we're going audience said, oh, we're going to double the auction things. so that made a size . somebody else that made a size. somebody else said, we are going to triple oh, why not need 1005? i worked on the just say thrilled that's lovely. i wish i could draw that she'd give it a go look at you

didn't draw that. oh yes that's true that yes he drew this dog this is your painting. you don't take the picture. i'm painting all the time. wow well, listen to you're listening to this. if you're listening already, a look at already, must take a look at that. if go into the that. 17, 18. if you go into the app that. 17, 18. if you go into the app you can download the app and take a look. donald runs picture of dog, actually looks of the dog, which actually looks like photograph very like a photograph it's very thank much yes thank you very much think yes yes i know you're yes well listen i know you're doing for you're sort of doing work for you're sort of doing work for you're sort of doing stuff online. well, in terms of exercise and stuff like that, people want find out that, people want to find out more what where can more about that what where can they well, have a website, they go? well, i have a website, they go? well, i have a website, the green goddess, look the green goddess, dot tv. look good, feel is one of my big things . just google my name , all things. just google my name, all these things. google's a green . these things. google's a green. everybody knows the time around is . diana, everybody knows the time around is. diana, thank you so much for joining . is. diana, thank you so much for joining. it's is. diana, thank you so much for joining . it's been is. diana, thank you so much for joining. it's been a is. diana, thank you so much for joining . it's been a pleasure. joining. it's been a pleasure. it's been absolutely lovely to meet. you were my inspiration for getting into fitness. you and jane fonda i remember well thank you thank you so much. that is, of course them around. she's a fitness guru the green

goddess. she's a fitness guru the green goddess . well if you just goddess. well if you just joining me welcome on board is coming up to 20 minutes after 5:00. this is dvd is live on tv onune 5:00. this is dvd is live on tv online and a digital radio on the way the great british debate this hour. i'm asking should the uk pay climate reparations. officials have struck a historic deal at cop27 whereby wealthier countries will contribute to a and damage fund to more vulnerable ones. combat climate change. but is this actually fair? should the uk really be doing this? and also especially dunng doing this? and also especially during a cost of living crisis thatis during a cost of living crisis that is on the way? join the after the break . thank you that is on the way? join the after the break. thank you . be.

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time for great british debate this hour. i'm asking should the uk pay climate reparations. now today the climate summit in eqypt today the climate summit in egypt concluded with what's being as a historic victory for poor countries. this is because are set to receive climate through compensate and fund paid for by their welfare . intense for by their welfare. intense negotiations were carried out overnight and the agreement was finally reached over the loss and damage fund which set to address climate change induced disasters such as storms and floods. despite the historical agreement for the compensation fund, conservative mp and, president of cop26 alok sharma said the aim to limit global heating to 1.5 degrees celsius is life support. this comes as little progress has been made on the agreement to cut greenhouse gases. the agreement to cut greenhouse gases . but for the agreement to cut greenhouse gases. but for a the agreement to cut greenhouse gases . but for a country that gases. but for a country that and its less than 1% of carbon emissions and has legislated to reach net zero by 2052, we really need to climate reparations. so in the great

british debate this i'm asking should the uk pay climate reparations. i'm joined now by and blind cat and policy director at the grantham institute on climate change and environment at the london school of economics , bob ward. well, of economics, bob ward. well, thank both for joining of economics, bob ward. well, thank both forjoining me live in the studio right. so first of all, i'm going to start with you, brian . so what is what why? you, brian. so what is what why? why they having this compensation fund? well, i don't know. okay. let me go to why we having the compensation fund? the poor countries in the world are arguing that the impacts climate change that they're already experiencing is causing them a huge burden is setting back economic development. we've seen , for instance, the flooding seen, for instance, the flooding in pakistan , which is causing in pakistan, which is causing a great deal of harm, and they've argued that they financial support deal with those impacts. it's not just about avoiding those impacts. it's about deaung those impacts. it's about dealing with those impacts. and it's a fairly clear and there are two arguments broadly why we

should be helping them with those costs. one is a moral case because historically we've been amongst biggest emitters of greenhouse gases which are driving climate change . but driving climate change. but there's also a pragmatic reason . if these people experiencing much bigger impacts, they will start to move. and we know that if they start moving, you get population displaced and migration, it can cause political instability and makes the world a much safe place. and you're worried about current levels of migration? well, if you a lot of climate refugees starting to travel around the world, they come to us as well. so it's in our own self—interest that we should help those countries deal with the impacts that they're experiencing . well, that they're experiencing. well, brian. right. well that's why i don't know what the case is, because it's quite the ipcc say that there is no change, no measurable difference in extreme weather events droughts , etc, weather events droughts, etc, etc. and you can read in i'll

five now, six. that's not true. well i think i'm talking then we'll come to that's what they say . the other thing there's an say. the other thing there's an awful lot of exaggeration here is sort of the bbc narrative , is sort of the bbc narrative, terrible floods, 30% flooded. not true . 10% flooded. a normal not true. 10% flooded. a normal , large, extreme , sure, but not , large, extreme, sure, but not abnormal natural event. so why should we be paying people for something which nature causes ? something which nature causes? basically. the fact that co2 is rising is not connected to any measurable change in extreme events. it's as simple as that. the last is the. the. the sinking islands where. some minister appeared sitting a bit of water somewhere where there a whole load of atolls out in the pacific and when actually . pacific and when actually. surprise, surprise they actually rise and fall according to the sea level and that do that by coral erosion having eroded down

to the sea surrounded by reefs which build them up which why the maldives were claiming climate whatever they are a reference oceans building for airports on, their islands etc. well he said that what he said wasn't true. why is what he said is just me is completely not true. what he said about the intergovernmental panel on climate change, it made clear that we are seeing lots of extreme events become more intense and, frequent around the world and indeed people the uk can see for themselves that we are getting a change increase in heavy rainfall events. we have a historic wave during the summer that killed than 3000 people. they becoming more frequent . can they becoming more frequent. can i just say. doesn't the cold more people than the people doing of what you just the of the people the cold kills more people at the moment that's true but that doesn't mean that people who die of heat don't matter. well, live people. i'm finally die of cold. i know. i'm

balancing it. i'm saying you're that as it is a big thing. balancing it. i'm saying you're that as it is a big thing . so that as it is a big thing. so i'm saying but actually more people talking i think i think the big difference of the 3000 people who died of heat do think. i think yes. and so think. well, i think yes. and so with the other how many with the other 100,000, how many people and we people thousands die and we should be stopping those as well by insulated homes by having better insulated homes and treating people better dunng and treating people better during the winter. looking after them. but if you go to poor countries , they are poor. they countries, they are poor. they find much more difficult to deal with these impacts . we do, and with these impacts. we do, and it's quite right that we should be helping them with the costs. could it be argued that if you think about as the industrial revolution, so we created the spinning jenny the locomotive, all these things have actually prolonged life . but why? and prolonged life. but why? and then obviously other countries have taken them on board . surely have taken them on board. surely in if you actually bounced off don't they owe us money ? well don't they owe us money? well well, i mean, if we're going to go through the reparations because of climate change everything, then you have to take it, look at it. a whole as a whole that we've we've didn't

we up with what is it the we come up with what is it the what is it not not antiseptic other one but we've come up with penicillin we've thought penicillin. we've come thought with that save with so many things that save lives. you say that lives. wouldn't you say that coming with those? are we coming up with those? why are we just looking the climate? just looking at the climate? we save over the world? save people all over the world? well if you have somebody who comes house comes in and build your house and a mistake and falls and makes a mistake and it falls down you an injury, down and causes you an injury, they don't say, okay, well, look, i generally helped. look, i generally i've helped. you pay you you don't have to pay you compensation. you have a medical operation and somebody food . operation and somebody food. well, you can squeeze well, that's if you can squeeze very me caused it but very specific me caused it but there actually is this causal is there actually is this causal is there actually is this causal is there actual proof causality there actual proof of causality our our actions have caused it especially when china emitted times more than us in the last yeah times more than us in the last year. very little. it was an effect then it's obviously almost nothing do with the uk. but the other point is this is money that's asked to be put into some pot to be handed out based what we don't know when in fact what we have done in the past where there is an actual earthquake disaster or whatever the money we have goes into

actually helping those people out . we send in famine relief. out. we send in famine relief. we send drugs, we send in whatever we send. so we've been doing that for forever. that's an okay use of money and perhaps they should be paying us back for now. and what poor people should be paying . it'sjust, should be paying. it's just, look, people in haiti and it's just 19 points are making is it's just logical as the points that you're making. i think you've just established , brian, you've just established, brian, that give them money the that we give them money the moment to help them deal with disasters with of disasters with a masters of economic intents, not protectionist to do that. but the. no, no, no, no, no . one the. no, no, no, no, no. one thing that there is not a single scientific organisation in the world that agrees with that carbon dioxide is not driving the rise . global temperature . the rise. global temperature. and when he says natural causes . can you explain exactly what he thinks it is? is it the sun is a cosmic rays ? he never is a cosmic rays? he never explains what this natural source of warming is. well we at

a we're not sure, but it doesn't matter because is. no, you don't have to wait until . matter because is. no, you don't have to wait until. i. now matter because is. no, you don't have to wait until . i. now there have to wait until. i. now there are 1400 very expert people, scientists who belong to the clinton organisation. some of the very climatologists who very clearly say that it's not a big problem . there is a cause, problem. there is a cause, a small amount of change from co2. it's not significant. the next point is, yes , it's very likely point is, yes, it's very likely it's solely related because the changes that we see conform directly to the solar that we see in terms winds and emissions. and there's plenty of these and there are plenty of scientific papers there by people very academics, which point out exactly how that and the correlation is far better than it is with carbon dioxide, where the temperatures sometimes are going up when, the carbon dioxide is going and vice versa. and what you said about the ipcc is frankly just true. and i can

get the ipcc changes twitter afterwards. one listener it well but we want to hear this exchange now but okay so you're not paid to say either. well, so you explain. he just admitted can't explain it. he can't explain why. no, no, that's not. he said he said this is what he said. not quite. explain again what, is it that's causing the earth to warm. we know that there's a correlation with solar cycles. it does appear very no, it's going down. but are you saying are it's going. saying that you are it's going. but you saying that you but are you saying that you absolutely know that it's co2? that's you're saying? that's what you're saying? yeah. so you're because so when you're saying because others that why? others agree with you that why? it's i'm saying lots it's definitely i'm saying lots of says that agree of times says that people agree things. it's turned out to be wrong. we should it's a wrong. so we should it's a scientific issue. so earth scientific issue. and so earth i hope will agree with this hope brian will agree with this that the is currently that the earth is currently about 32 to 3 degrees warmer than it would be otherwise without atmosphere. and it's because of the greenhouse and not with the atmosphere. yeah them. no, no, no, no, no. 255 degrees at that because the

atmosphere and basic thermodynamic 32 to 33 degrees warmer if just looking at the position no relation to that it's just know that would be minus that it doesn't just finish stop it's not going that's completely wrong it's the actual temperature gradient the right to earth which you can see another and moons is basically caused by the radiation levels of the sun which excites which would otherwise be. it is absolutely and that creates the atmosphere which is held onto the earth by gravity and the pressure that that delivers creates the furious temperature gradients that see the there's an extra 33 degrees over and above you will get with with with the what's the what? i'm trying to think of the word perfect gas natural gas , an perfect gas natural gas, an ideal gas. it be 255. but we cos we've got water vapour, the atmosphere and the small amount of co2 we get a greenhouse effect which is extra 33 degrees that bob's talking about, so that bob's talking about, so that the greenhouse gases are keeping the earth warmer. it

otherwise would be and there's a very small on that from co2 . so very small on that from co2. so he's saying that the 33 degrees, you're saying there's a big effect. so on to let's just wrap this up then. should we be paying this up then. should we be paying climate reparations ? then paying climate reparations? then you'll pay reparations or compensation. should we pay compensation. we should we pay compensation. we should we pay compensation all the compensation all the compensation when we should decide we always pay when we don't call it compensation, do we. we calling it the best thing there should be no the no column is the loss and damage . loss and is the loss and damage. loss and damage, but also that we be thinking it's in our best interests . thinking it's in our best interests. brian fund what you should be as when got 5 seconds if we are going to spend money we should spend it on actual events that happened, not on something can't see it something we can't see it probably well probably isn't happening. well listen very listen for board thank you very much me great to have you in the studio brian covers thank studio and brian covers thank you it's good have you so much it's good to have a nice to find out you nice discussion to find out you what the actual experts think the situation rather than us just we just backing on about what we think. so those are your those are thoughts what are are their thoughts what are yours with me nana yours you're with me on nana akua. this gb news where live

akua. this is gb news where live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll continue our i'm our great debate this hour. i'm asking, should pay asking, should the uk pay climate you'll hear climate reparations? you'll hear the my panel author, the thoughts of my panel author, environmental campaigner and international and to the conservative environment , conservative environment, stanley former stanley johnson and former editor of the label peter edwards . first, though, let's edwards. first, though, let's get your latest news . good get your latest news. good afternoon. it's 535. your top stories from the gb newsroom, the fifa cup is underway in qatar with the host playing ecuadorin qatar with the host playing ecuador in the open in game is still two nil to ecuador. it follows a colourful opening ceremony at the emirates stadium to kick things off. it's the first time the tournament has been held in a muslim country in the middle east and, it's been overshadowed by a number of controversies. fifa is hoping action on the pitch will turn the spotlight back the the spotlight back on the football in the five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at a gay nightclub in

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good afternoon. it's fast approaching 40 minutes after 5:00. if you just join me. welcome on board. this is gb news. i'm not a we live on tv onune news. i'm not a we live on tv online and on digital radio. and it's online and on digital radio. and wsfime online and on digital radio. and it's time for our great british debate this hour. i'm asking , debate this hour. i'm asking, should the uk pay climate reparations or loss and or whatever you want to call it, but we're calling it and damage just because that's what they're it. but it's pretty much the same thing. so today the uk climate summit egypt climate summit in egypt concluded being concluded with what's being described historic victory described as a historic victory for poor countries . now this described as a historic victory

for poor countries. now this is because they are to receive because they are set to receive climate reparations a climate reparations through a compensation fund paid for by welfare counterparts. this comes as little progress is made on. an agreement to cut greenhouse gases. but for a country that emits less than 1% of carbon emissions and legislated to reach net zero by the year 2050, do we really to be paying for loss and damage or climate reparations? so in the great british debate this hour, that is the question. what do you think? should we be doing that? let's see what my panel make of that. by stanley that. i'm joined now by stanley johnson also peter edwards, johnson and also peter edwards, joining me live alongside brian card also bob ward . well, card and also bob ward. well, i'm going to come to you, stanley lot some damage, stanley, some a lot some damage, even though . i mean, i think even though. i mean, i think you've got to see this as part of the general effort to do what as long ago as 2009, the quote unquote developed world said it would do, which provide, roughly speaking, $100 billion a year for the effort to developing

countries to deal with climate change. so that's the big the big frame and the reality, even though that was 2009, it was reconfirmed 2015 when you had the paris agreement. but we actually got that, although this country is making an effort , i country is making an effort, i think all four years, about 11 billion at the moment. and if you consider that we raised for covid for hungry billion bonds, you have to have for that, it's not impossible for countries to come up with come up with large sums of, then look at what the punishment though is. this now, isn't well that is isn't it? well that is debateable , i think what debateable, i think what happenedis debateable, i think what happened is that the developed world hasn't stepped up to the plate in terms of the sums involved , although the debate it involved, although the debate it came in sharm el sheikh had i have pushed it towards at least saying look adaptation is a is a big thing now for us to spend money on. and i think what we're seeing in this loss and damage

fundis seeing in this loss and damage fund is a sort of greater recognition that we've got to move now on the adaptation and get money out . and the other get money out. and the other information, intriguing thing about they agreed in so far as they did agree it in sharm el sheikh is to say the old definition, which goes back can be, as you know here to the kyoto protocol of 1997. i think that was set out. part one countries and part two countries didn't include , as it were, some didn't include, as it were, some of the big emitters, india and china in the top one countries, as i understand, the thought is the next time where i think is dubai . in 2020, 24, 24, the next dubai. in 2020, 24, 24, the next time round looks as though maybe some of the countries with so far excluded they might come in and really get peter's pizza on this . let's and really get peter's pizza on this. let's and this is globally all of the promises of the cop conferences investment and not all the sums of money offered by the west have actually been paid for. secondly let's invest in the future of developing nations

and. i to think for that way and. ito think for that way because i think one reparations is very loaded word in that it reminds us of the first world war and i'm not sure that's really a help. well, i think they're calling it lost and damaged. so if we use loss and damage. yes, but but the reality is, anything calculate for loss and damage would a back of the packet calculation just like there are lots of things wrong in the british empire and some good things. but the idea that you toss up anything like a you can toss up anything like a realistic bill that with , realistic bill for that with, any credibility , a any intellectual credibility, a bit a nonsense. so rather bit of a nonsense. so rather than saying there is a bill for loss and damage should pay it or argue whether to pay. argue about whether to pay. let's in future. let's invest in the future. developing because good developing because that's good for for climate for jobs is good for climate which stanley knows is a which is stanley knows is a global problem but also global problem anyway but also think just it's just a think it's just it's just in a good of itself to invest good in and of itself to invest in developing nations but what do the literally the do you think the literally the calculations the calculations on starting the fact and especially the modelling some of that modelling as well some of that modelling as well some of that modelling how modelling modelling as well some of that modewith how modelling modelling as well some of that modewith covid,»w modelling modelling as well some of that modewith covid, it modelling modelling as well some of that modewith covid, it mightodelling modelling as well some of that modewith covid, it might not ling went with covid, it might not even that accurate. so should

even be that accurate. so should we really be looking at loss and damage are we going to damage and how are we going to calculate yeah, calculate this anyway. yeah, i think as was being pointed they're calculating a reparation . it's going to be very different conversation. but there are real costs associated with the damage that the countries are experiencing and it's those costs we need to help because it's back economic development. it keeps poor people poor . that's not development. it keeps poor people poor. that's not in our interests because it makes the world a safe place. we want people to be safe in own countries, to have lives and livelihoods that are protected . livelihoods that are protected. and if we need to make a small investment in order to do it, then we should. for prime depends what you're doing it in the name of. if you. if you're doing it in the in the name of climate change , we know that is climate change, we know that is discernable difference in extreme events. droughts typhoons, hurricanes, floods, whatever they are then that that's wrong if you're doing it in the name of actually

relieving future effects of such events , then that's okay then. events, then that's okay then. what do you mean? so if you're doing it now to mitigate against something that has nothing to do with climate change, this is taking away from climate change. it wasn't. that's a fine thing saying it away climate saying take it away from climate change stop talking change and stop, stop talking about loss damage about loss and loss and damage to things that. we've actually felt for the story of loss and damage because just not damage and because it's just not there's problems with there's no actual problems with with money we know with with money which we know are going to those particular problems don't give it to a country to spend it feels and how because because we've done something wrong in the past but yet we've done lots of good things as well. well, the use of money in the adaptation hasn't happened. it's somewhere happened. it's gone somewhere else. there are two problems with of all, he with plans. first of all, he denies the climate is denies that the climate is changing. doesn't changing. and so he doesn't know. he hasn't said know. he hasn't he hasn't said the climate of has increased about a degree of it. he can't just he has said that the climate is changing. what he's saying is co2 isn't the reason.

that's what he's saying. yeah, but he just made argument. there's been no change. extreme weather . that's exactly how he weather. that's exactly how he thinks of the atmosphere is warming, but making no warming, but it's making no impact on weather related phenomena like rainfall, basic physics that . if you raise the physics that. if you raise the temperature , the atmosphere that temperature, the atmosphere that it holds more moisture, you get heavier rainfall . that's what heavier rainfall. that's what we're saying. so brian's going to have to explain that physics is . you're not a physicist, are is. you're not a physicist, are you?i is. you're not a physicist, are you? i can tell you now, are you a climate? i'm a physicist . you a climate? i'm a physicist. you have an mba ? yeah, i the met have an mba? yeah, i the met office, the royal society, the numbnuts. agree with you . just numbnuts. agree with you. just go and get the weather . well, go and get the weather. well, the actual climate records that go back as far as they go back and look to see what's happened to rainfall look to see what's happened, to in the arctic and, the antarctic. and you will find you are wrong. okay. standing in

the ages. yeah, yeah. argued about how many angels could stand on the point of any . that stand on the point of any. that was the big, big intellectual issue. and of course you shouldn't lecture if you can continue as to what purpose courses are. all right. and i tend to agree with all my follow the ipcc. it's a very first meeting in november 1986, which i will represent to the eu commission . that said , i think a commission. that said, i think a rose by any other name which would smell sweet. and if you look at the programme for adaptation, which are which are going on, which will be finance of this fund , probably whether of this fund, probably whether you say it's current related or whether some course of a reason weather events, the net effect is going to be a good one for us to be involved in. say, the real issue now is are up to the mark and this about can we get china to join in? well, yes. and that, of course, doesn't mean that 0.5

where we are, i think at the in terms of percentage just a percentage of gdp, we have made this promise to put it back up front. then i have a feeling the chancellor was little bit vague in his statement based on whether we were going to reach that point. and i would say that whether or not we argue about where the money or , why the where the money or, why the money is going, we're not going to be finding ourselves arguing about where it is going well. listen, i've got to say thank you so much to my panellists who were staying with but thank were staying with me, but thank you brian kat and also bob you to brian kat and also bob award joining as well. if award forjoining me as well. if you joined stanley johnson, you just joined stanley johnson, also are here now also peter edwards are here now as this show nothing without as this show is nothing without union that's welcome of union views. that's welcome of our great british voices. this is opportunity tell us is your opportunity to tell us what about the topics what you think about the topics we're got we're discussing today. i've got four voices. let's four great british voices. let's start moved here start with sesame moved here milton keynes our socially okay let's go cheese and so loss and damage payments for so a kind of reparation but it's not in damage should we be doing this ?

damage should we be doing this? yes definitely not we should uk should pay for reparation it will be an investment for developing countries to cope better with financial disasters . as we saw in pakistan 1500 deaths in the summer floods with 34 billion damage. this is only one example in which this financial aid could help , as financial aid could help, as rishi sunak has said . it's for rishi sunak has said. it's for the morally good and it's for britain for security and for course and for its prosperity. and i agree 100% with everything that bob said, as well as standing . peter, thank you very standing. peter, thank you very much. thank you very much, ashley let's go to alan mcneilly . he's there in grimsby. lost some damage payments. good, good . happened another no , i've . happened another no, i've listened to bob and i've listened to bob and i've listened to bob and i've listened to stanley. and i think that their argument is false . that their argument is false. theidea that their argument is false. the idea that we are somehow

responsible for all of this is just complete and utter nonsense . there's nothing we already development aid where it's necessary. we always help, but there's a disaster of any magnitude at all so that the money is already in the pipeline and already there to commit to more money on the basis that this is climate change event. i think it's just absolute rubbish . well, thank you very for that, alan. next we go to have a chat with mike donovan. he's there in oxfordshire. mike loss and damage reparations. it's good to be on. i'm kind of amazed. i think i in a different country to everyone else. i mean we to have debate on from scientists from both sides of the fence as perhaps a fundamental sort of celebration . the climate change celebration. the climate change agenda has got a big, huge funding . it's a global slush funding. it's a global slush fund. and i live in a country

where people are suffering . i where people are suffering. i mean, we have energy. there's a whole lot of going on. and we're talking about these sums and have to say that should be the milenkovic , the whole climate milenkovic, the whole climate change debate is one sided and so you have two sided debate. you don't have science actually we have shouting louder than the other as we've witnessed tonight . you know there are different sides to an argument both need credibility and both to be put together we should have a big conference of 400 scientists who sit down and talk about the issues . you know why we have to issues. you know why we have to close? no, we've got our own problems to deal with in this country. you know, soft money , country. you know, soft money, slush funds. we talk in these billions is never reach is the real economy in the uk the real economy . 16.3 smes who employ

economy. 16.3 smes who employ the people in this country do the people in this country do the work . well, it's a nightmare the work. well, it's a nightmare then. thank you much. i i'm with you on that olivia olivia parry . now let's think we in britain are a compassionate nation . we are a compassionate nation. we care about those who are less well—off than us . but the well—off than us. but the problem is can we be assured that the money is going to the right place? unfortunately, countries like pakistan have quite a lot of corruption . so quite a lot of corruption. so and they they also they have a nuclear program and, you know, they spend money on going to space. why can't they look after their own before putting their hands out to nations like the uk? now, i'm not saying that the specific events we shouldn't help and we already , but i just help and we already, but i just think that we be really, really careful before we commit to making billions of pounds. and so i think this moral argument is telling us we should do it it

puts people's backs up if we want to help yes we can . but to want to help yes we can. but to be kind of made into a pariah, it's really is not the right way it's really is not the right way it we need to prop the bank from all sides . thank you very much. all sides. thank you very much. agreed, olivia surrey. thank you so much. alan in grimsby in oxfordshire. assassinate milton keynes. thank you so much for your thoughts. brilliant british voices. thank you so much . right voices. thank you so much. right now time for supplements now it is time for supplements sunday when me and my panel discussed that have our discussed that have caught our eye. start . stanley. eye. let's start. stanley. stanley, got stories stanley, you've got stories about boy george having a bit of about boy george having a bit of a meltdown the jungle. yeah, a meltdown in the jungle. yeah, there it is. is my funk. there it is. there is my funk. there my front. well, having there is my front. well, having beenin there is my front. well, having been in the jungle myself, you did know for couple of years ago i've actually been following this with great interest. so i mean, i'm a bit of a supporter, matt hancock, this particular matt hancock, on this particular one. oh, boy. george has one. but oh, boy. george has been a joy a joy to look at. but it does seem as yesterday he had a bit of a bit of a hero. errol mcgreevy wanted a lift back home

in the beginning. i don't recall anybody ever offering me a lift in the in the bar. didn't recall any at all. i can tell you a lot of bugs, but very, very few bodies anyway. i'm sure it was good. bodies anyway. i'm sure it was good . i didn't see it on the. good. i didn't see it on the. which leads me to surprise that somehow the song has got some other information, maybe from one of the staff because there are some of our maybe never see them anyway a very good story and knows what's going to and who knows what's going to happen who where boy happen who knows where the boy george got george kind saying charlene got kicked used to kicked out which is used to justify we don't know who the next one was going to be, she said. was to do with she had said. it was to do with she had to impartial and she kept to be impartial and she kept quiet. she said she couldn't sleep with hancock and keep sleep with matt hancock and keep writing to sleep the same writing him to sleep in the same game . peter, you've got game instead. peter, you've got a story for. me? what have you got? what's your story? so we all remember the 1990 britpop called britannia everything all remember the 1990 britpop calleyitsritannia everything all remember the 1990 britpop calleyit mightia everything all remember the 1990 britpop calleyit might be everything all remember the 1990 britpop calleyit might be a everything all remember the 1990 britpop calleyit might be a bit/erything all remember the 1990 britpop calleyit might be a bit toothing else. it might be a bit too small cameras, but i love small the cameras, but i love the story in the sun times about blur, oasis , hope and suede blur, oasis, hope and suede making comebacks of various kinds . in the next few months,

kinds. in the next few months, i came of age in the 1990s. these are also some of the best british bands. i think at the second half of the 20th century. to hear that coming is absolutely wonderful. i suspect there might be some short lived things. you know, they're not full stop. they're doing a kick and a kick there. but i think it's going to be great for music fans.16 it's going to be great for music fans. 16 to 60. yeah wonderful. wonderful. well, listen, i got a little story for you as well of myself . and joe lycett said 20, myself. and joe lycett said 20, £10,000. he's issued ultimatum to former england player david beckham after it was reported that he'd signed a deal with qatar worth, 10 million quid. now, the comedian , this message now, the comedian, this message whilst dressed in multi—coloured ruffled clothing with a deadpan expression . but does lost expression. but does lost standing ten grand send a meaningful statement what you think? is that meaningful? burnt ten grand? you didn't think it was monopoly money? i mean, they is where my real money. do you think? i mean, this is this

peter is that in america illegal to burn the coin of the realm shouldn't be allowed to has burning burning that. well it has an impact and it's got pubuchy has an impact and it's got publicity and i think his outfit, i presume , was a outfit, i presume, was a reference to the colours of pride and lgbtq+ and i think we'll see a of poverty we can have mixed feelings about burning. obviously you shouldn't be burning money a disgrace. what it's not today. so i've been should adopt the been asking, should we adopt the swiss according to our swiss model? according to our principle, you yes, principle, 23% of you say yes, that no. thank that remains to say no. thank you much to my panel stanley you so much to my panel stanley johnson and, also peter edwards and huge thank you to you at home for your i'll see you next week on enjoy that . and to this week on enjoy that. and to this evening's weather and conditions will be blustery and showery for many but there also be some and clear weather to hear the details starting off in the southwest where there will be a mixture of clear spells with showers too turning very wet and windy by the end of the night. over in the southeast most of

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