and good evening. it's coming up to 6:01. i'm rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. the fifa world cup

is underway in with ecuador as. we go to air beating the host in the first game of the tournament scores. currently two nil. it's the first time the tournament's been held . a muslim country in been held. a muslim country in the middle east and it's been overshadowed by a number of controversies. is hoping action on the pitch turn the spotlight back on the football. reporter paulis back on the football. reporter paul is in doha for us and spoke to our fans about their on the tournament . and i can't fault tournament. and i can't fault the hospitality to the people, the hospitality to the people, the friendliness of the people. i know this is big east meets thing but you know you just have to expect respect people in their cultures and it's wonderful. and actually i think no alcohol it's not a bad thing. it's england. they don't. and they've always wanted it before. they've ball. and it's they've kick the ball. and it's a massive disappointment . do we a massive disappointment. do we have fight.7 yeah , yeah, have to fight.7 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how you. how yeah, yeah. but how you. how you, it's a great you, how enjoy it. it's a great very. guys. nice people. very. you guys. nice people. people are great here. yeah it's really clean, feeling really nice, clean, safe feeling place. and i can confirm place. good and i can confirm ecuador won that game two nil.

england manager gareth southgate has confirmed his team will take the knee ahead of first game against iran. the three lions have made the controversial against racism and, inequality and more than 33 straight matches since covert and we'll do it again when they kick off their campaign tomorrow and let's not about wales of course preparing the country's first world cup appearance in 64 years captain gareth bale has been talking about how disappointed he was as a child, unable to watch his country play on the world stage. well, the welsh star says hopes his team's achievement will inspire a generation . it's just one of generation. it's just one of those moments that is a massive of history in our country, something that we've all wanted for a long time. and like i said to be the team that was to get over the line, do that for our country. isn't and we know we have support of a nation back home no matter what happens, as

as we give 100% our country love us for that comedian joe lycett shredde d £10,000 of his own cash shredded £10,000 of his own cash in protest at david beckham's role as an ambassador at the qatar world cup online shows the comedian trying to of notes into a shredder . comedian trying to of notes into a shredder. mr. lysaght had issued an ultimatum to the former england footballer after was reported he'd signed a deal with tournament house worth up t 0 £10 with tournament house worth up to £10 million. the comedian offered to donate the money to lgbt kew plus charities if beckham ended the sponsorship. homosexual is still illegal. in in the us five people have been killed and 18 injured in a shooting at. a gay nightclub in colorado springs . police have colorado springs. police have named the suspect as 22 year old anderson leal fritch. he's currently in custody and receiving treatment for his injuries. the motive for the attack is not yet known. deputy police chief adrian vasquez has thanked those clubgoers that

risked own lives trying to stop the attack. initial evidence and interviews indicate that the suspect entered cup club q and immediately began shooting at people . as he moved further into people. as he moved further into the club while the suspect was inside of club, at least two heroic people inside the club confronted and fought with suspect and were able to stop the suspect from continuing to kill . thank the suspect from continuing to kill. thank you. police in nottingham have launched a murder investigation after two children were killed in a fire at a flat. a woman's a critical condition in hospital . in condition in hospital. in a statement, detective chief inspector greg mcgill said these are tragic and very sad circumstance as we've established the fire was started deliberately. police are appealing witnesses in the farah close of clifton and rishi sunak says more must be done to tackle change after a funding agreement reached at cop27. the so—called loss and damage fund will help

developing nations bear the cost of disasters such as drought and flooding . however a decision on flooding. however a decision on exactly which should pay has been left . cop28. the sunak been left. cop28. the sunak welcomed the measures, but said there can be no time for complacency . tv online and dab+ complacency. tv online and dab+ radio. this is gb news. more at the top of the hour. see you then. the top of the hour. see you then . and to this evening's then. and to this evening's weather and condition will be blustery and showery for many. but there also be some and clear weather to hear the details starting off in the southwest , starting off in the southwest, there'll be a mixture of clear spells with some showers too, turning very wet and windy by the end of the night. over in the end of the night. over in the southeast, most of the showers would have cleared away, meaning it will a dry and meaning it will be a dry and mostly clear to the day. mostly dry with clear skies across much wales though a few coastal showers are still possible, turning and very windy in the

south overnight. let's go over to the midlands now and there may still be a little showery rain first this evening, but this will quickly clear away north eastwards, leaving a mostly dry night for. rain arrives by dawn. a rather cloudy evening across the north of england. here we can expect further outbreaks of showery rain, but it'll turn dry and clear , leading to some ice and clear, leading to some ice and on monday morning. and clear for much of eastern scotland this evening. for the west some showery is likely and there'll also be some rain for orkney and shetland too a mostly dry end to the day for northern ireland . the day for northern ireland. plenty of clear skies here to, meaning it will be a chilly start the night before rain arrives later on. wet and very windy weather will sweep in from the west through the night with some of the impact felt on monday . that's how the weather monday. that's how the weather is shaping up overnight into tomorrow morning . i am going

tomorrow morning. i am going. piara, welcome to gloria meets. a different political programme where we out across the country to learn about your lives and what you think are different of political interview. where we get the big names to open and tell us who they are . coming up, tell us who they are. coming up, labour's jess phillips. my calorie intake must have been i literally less than 500 calories a day, which starve myself . a day, which starve myself. former home secretary jacqui smith as the grieved for my job so i've grieved for my marriage which was a very happy of 33 years and in some ways that i will never get over that . and will never get over that. and senior conservative mp caroline nokes who's going to believe me and? nokes who's going to believe me and.7 what will this do to my career if i talk about it . jess

career if i talk about it. jess phillips great to see you. are going to talk a bit about but a lot about you because . this is lot about you because. this is called the real me and this supposed to humanise politicians and i think have some very human stories to share actually. i like to think so. stories to share actually. i like to think so . first of all, like to think so. first of all, i mean, you're known people know you're in politics, a leading feminist. was there a moment or experience that you to become a fighter for women's rights and i think working in women's refuges, you come across certain cases and. i worked in women's refuges and with of sexual exploitation and grooming for years before becoming a member parliament. and there was one particular case of a young woman lived in the care system , abused lived in the care system, abused as a kid , and then had her as a kid, and then had her children like was put into prostitution as a kid into adulthood. other children

removed from that she was just so with spring break into service . i just thought that service. i just thought that every single agency a policy that anyone i'd ever tried with good intention to make had just felt this kid. i just thinking god you know we doing something wrong like constantly we're doing something wrong and i've got to try and get into to change the basically that she and i think about her almost daily she's like i don't know what happened her in the long run i doubt it was good but this sort of constant failure that i've watched women and children go through as a worker , i think go through as a worker, i think that that almost certainly is the thing that made me decide to step up . when to talk more about step up. when to talk more about politics later in this. but i want to talk about you . you have want to talk about you. you have had very human exposure , common

had very human exposure, common experiences for women . when you experiences for women. when you were a teenager, you had anorexia . i want to know when anorexia. i want to know when that was and what brought that about .7 almost impossible to say. about? almost impossible to say. really i can't remember. there was no sort of like definitive . was no sort of like definitive. i mean, i was a teenager in the 1990s and being anorexic was pretty dire. again like it was it was when we sort of first knew about it and quite a few of my friends were very, very severely hospitalised. institution the list was , very, institution the list was, very, very severe anorexia . and i was very severe anorexia. and i was never at that level and but i think , i mean, originally think, i mean, originally started out as i would make myself sick. so i was but i would never it was really about being said, really never, ever. i was really said . i was being said, really never, ever. i was really said. i was i being said, really never, ever. i was really said . i was i was

i was really said. i was i was a teenager. i was really said. i was i was a teenager . and you start making teenager. and you start making yourself sick and i don't i don't remember when i started to don't remember when i started to do it and i at first you tell yourself because you've out on the lash or something that, you've making, you know, like when you've drunk too much and you sick to you make yourself sick to yourself . yeah, when you when yourself. yeah, when you when yourself. yeah, when you when you when been drunk. so i think i sort of start it with and it became sort of like my past and i say like my friends would say, oh, you know she's always vomiting, isn't she. oh, she's always sick when she's or something. when this was something. when i was this was when like 14. right. 15. and when i like 14. right. 15. and it just became a thing that i did just to sort of control situations myself in control. i don't know what i felt out of control . it was then on to so control. it was then on to so and you know standards were different to how they are now and the things would happen to me and my friends that if now

they were happening to my teenage kids i would be appalled by them so you know it was cool for basically like 20 and 30 year old men to come and pick us up in their that. a it wasn't just cool , it was currency. you just cool, it was currency. you were the coolest kid. if like some bloke in a foxhole over a penod some bloke in a foxhole over a period of time that number plate and even bigger to be playing the music that picked you up while you were in your school uniform, that was that was it wasn't just there was any safeguarding concerns raised about me. it was totally normal and totally regular that sort of things which go on without question. but so because there's sort of a debate about eating . sort of a debate about eating. on the one hand it's about control on other people say that it's because we're we're now subjected to constant images and yeah, i mean, it's got to be six one and off. it isn't as high as

it wasn't it. i don't think the constant images make every woman react that way . but if you have react that way. but if you have incidents of trauma or concern or you're frightened about environment, it's never it's almost impossible for me to talk about it in these times because i didn't like that at the time. i didn't like that at the time. i can paste it onto my teenage so i thought it was the queen of the bloody at the time . often the bloody at the time. often when people say what would you say as a 16 year old self as i take yourself dana packets a lot you know when as good you you know when as good as you think are when did you so think you are when did you so you start off with bulimia. yeah you start off with bulimia. yeah you then so you start being sick you then so you start being sick you then so you start being sick you then decide to starve yourself and then . yeah, never. yourself and then. yeah, never. because then actually went to university and took a you know i think if it a bit like when become a member of parliament on like a stone when you become a member parliament like the tea room stone because you're not living a no, you're living the life that was your pattern of

life that was your pattern of life . and so when i to life. and so when i to university i like that my parents really quite strict about like eating healthily so it just paints all the time it became really quite and healthy and i'm white and then the sort of dramat reaction to that was that and actually i think that the way that i eat, whether i'm putting on weight or trying to lose it, and i will do that for the rest of my life and i will live with that fact like i will never get away from that are disordered. it'sjust never get away from that are disordered. it's just eating of some variety another but then in the reaction to that i lost i mean there was about a year only eight popcorn that i made myself like and this is a universe this is at university my calorie must have been i mean literally less than 500 calories a day. i was starve myself that even as i'm

saying this there was no pathway my mind that was making me like it was definitely was an initial reaction to having put on weight, then wanting to lose it. but yeah, it's it became so controlled about the things i ate that when i left university in the middle of university i must have weighed about seven stone and i'm probably four eight. so then you sort yourself out like you say, probably all have an unhealthy relationship with food . yeah. or maybe say with food. yeah. or maybe say assault myself. now i will have eating for the rest of my life i. i emotionally ate i will drop my weight. massive and dramatically i'm absolute utterly brilliant at going on a diet when . people say to me, how diet when. people say to me, how do you stick to it? and they're so jealous of it. i'm like, it's not necessarily good thing that i can stick to this . this is

i can stick to this. this is i am obsessive. i am all my or it does and it's like an addiction of any. so it's like an addiction of any sort that you will overeat to cover emotion. and you will then undertake to feel in control i wish i could stop , but that's life, isn't it? stop, but that's life, isn't it? i mean , genuinely, just like i mean, genuinely, just like thatis i mean, genuinely, just like that is it's not me. any particular. it'sjust that is it's not me. any particular. it's just a massive grief at moment is just the way that i live, that i mean, i've got family . i that i live, that i mean, i've got family. i eat that i live, that i mean, i've got family . i eat with them most got family. i eat with them most of the time. my husband is an excellent cook. i'm not unhealthy. i've tried to make it be about health rather than anything else , but i'm actually anything else, but i'm actually just kidding myself . i've been just kidding myself. i've been groomed all my life to think that women should look a certain way. i wish i could say way. i wish that i could say that i felt differently and my feminism me feel feminism has helped me feel differently, but i don't really interesting . you spoke in interesting. you spoke in parliament during the debate debate about having an abortion

and the process involved in that . how old are you so ? they're . how old are you so? they're trying to in 2000 to say that what you've been about 24. my eldest son i had when i was 23 and i he was i mean, i literally can't remember, but he was something like five months old at the time honestly. right? yeah cos that's hard. was it hard . it was harder for me. it hard. it was harder for me. it incredibly hard. 23 and having a five month old baby and then finding that i was pregnant immediately afterwards honestly i, i still don't know actually . i, i still don't know actually. i, i still don't know actually. i i, the, i don't remember my life at all, at that time. it was just like living in a daze . was just like living in a daze. but i remember coming downstairs every single time i've been pregnant in my life . that moment pregnant in my life. that moment i've seen the pregnancy test. i've seen the pregnancy test. i've known instinctively in moment exactly what i felt about

it and what was going to do . and it and what was going to do. and i've had a miscarriage as well as to live best . so i know that, as to live best. so i know that, you know , actually around that you know, actually around that occasion i was happy to be pregnant . so occasion i was happy to be pregnant. so i've occasion i was happy to be pregnant . so i've known pregnant. so i've known instantly. and so i knew instantly. and so i knew instantly in that second when i saw the pregnancy test. well my baby, i could hear my baby crying downstairs that i didn't want to have another baby . and i want to have another baby. and i went downstairs and i said to my boyfriend , my husband, i said, boyfriend, my husband, i said, oh, god , think i'm pregnant. boyfriend, my husband, i said, oh, god , think i'm pregnant . and oh, god, think i'm pregnant. and he just like it just for brief facts is guesswork a of the baby . it's i was just like, no . and . it's i was just like, no. and he was like, oh god, god , thank he was like, oh god, god, thank god . but no, i he was like, oh god, god, thank god. but no, i didn't. it he was like, oh god, god, thank god . but no, i didn't. it wasn't god. but no, i didn't. it wasn't stress. the thing that was stressful was waiting. yeah, that it so yeah. so having to go and justify yourself in the appointment . so i had to go . i'm

appointment. so i had to go. i'm very pleased to say that it didn't to be such a thing back then in 2006 that there was protesting things outside abortion clinic. so i didn't have encounter any of that. i took to doctors and my doctor said to me in a sort of slightly judgemental way, i mean more than slightly completely. i don't sign off for abortions i don't sign off for abortions i don't do it. my gp we have a doctor in the practise who does that i'll might even appoint with her and i just remember when i och i like on moral grounds i don't do it and they're completely entitled do that there isn't of the area their entitled to do that in incident . they should be incident. they should be entitled to do well . look entitled to do well. look i think that if you go into medical profession and you have very, very strong feelings about this, then you know , i do as this, then you know, i do as long as there is a provision available which my gp said to me that was i can see that can work in that environment . but i think in that environment. but i think if you're going general practise where this might come , it is a

where this might come, it is a health issue, not a moral issue . it is a women's health issue . . it is a women's health issue. and so i do think that we need make sure that in every gp practise and there are very vulnerable groups where that would you know, that initial no would you know, that initial no would be damaging and we've got to make sure that the patient is, the principal, not the doctors morale but there was a doctor, a lovely, lovely doctor at my old gp surgery who would then, who then had to sign it off of me. and then i had to go and get another doctor at the clinic to sign off for me as a woman. i can't make that choice by myself without people signing it off. i don't know why one doctor isn't good enough. sign off on my need for that . i then off on my need for that. i then had to go and i had to have a scan to date it. and then i to wait for something . six weeks wait for something. six weeks just a couple. if i quickly gone.i just a couple. if i quickly gone. i want to ask you one final question . you up to a

final question. you up to a labour leader at the last election when keir starmer was elected , you withdraw early in elected, you withdraw early in that contest. why on earth did you do that ? so i'm going to. so you do that? so i'm going to. so phoebe's that i hated it . i phoebe's that i hated it. i absolutely hated it. i everything about it it made me feel miserable for the very second that i agreed to do it, i felt sick and like i did , felt sick and like i did, enjoying it at all. horrible and i rememberjust being it was christmas, wasn't it? and just having like go to one thing and have like five so of apparatchiks standing around me telling me what to do. and then i was like, oh my god, to get my kids some christmas presents. and then running around the shops and then going to something else. i just was like, i it. like going out i hated it. i like going out dancing with friends. like dancing with my friends. i like being a human being. i like i like a life. and i hated not being that . the being able to do that. the second reason was there was no way that i was going to win and say you put through

say why you put myself through something starmer was something so when starmer was very clearly sort of on the pathway to success, but one of the reasons that i did it was to open up the labour party to people who aren't that interested in politics. i think ihave interested in politics. i think i have a particular skilful and get loads of people to join the laboun get loads of people to join the labour, so i dropped out at the point where you could no longer join yes or no . will we ever see join yes or no. will we ever see jess phillips, leader of the labour party? i mean, i'm winding down now anyway. don't winding down now anyway. i don't go dance with my as go out dance with my mates as much anyone. put kibosh much as anyone. i've put kibosh advice my desire to out advice into. my desire to go out doesn't save, but i think it's probably quite unlikely. but i wouldn't say never. i wouldn't say would run again say i would never run again because i just don't think that's honest because i might take really well not take that i really well not i can't deal with the machine here i'm going in the machine i'm not going in the machine i totally understand it and why lots of people think you should run leader. jess run for labour leader. jess phillips you have been a joy so frank open as ever. thank you. jess phillips no worries . coming

jess phillips no worries. coming up, former secretary jacqui smith , as i grieved for my job smith, as i grieved for my job so i've grieved for my marriage which was very happy marriage of 33 years. and in some ways that will i will never get over and senior conserve mp caroline nokes he's going to believe me and what will this do to my career ? i talk about it .

jacqui smith, 15 years ago you were appointed as britain's first woman home secretary. what's the toughest thing about job? well, it doesn't that long ago for a start, in ways it feels like yesterday, i think the toughest thing is that you suddenly that you are responsible for the security of , the country, our borders against counter—terrorism for communities, against crime , that

communities, against crime, that feels like a great weight actually on your shoulders. but ihave actually on your shoulders. but i have to say, it's also a massive honour and for the two years i did it, saying i enjoyed it would probably be going too far. but i'm proud that i got the opportunity to do it. and you mentioned securing our borders. they seem remotely secure at the moment. we didn't have very small boats , have very small boats, crossings, crisis until fairly recently was going wrong in your view why can't we control our borders ? i mean to be fair, we borders? i mean to be fair, we did , of course, have a problem did, of course, have a problem with people onto lorries and coming into the country that was solved by working with france, by sending our border guards over into by finding in which we could clamp down on those who were responsible for it . i could clamp down on those who were responsible for it. i think what's gone wrong is that we sort of decided that somehow or another was something we could control ourselves without working our european working alongside our european partners. i won't even get into

brexit, but actually i, i think in some ways that's made it harder for us to our borders. so actually this week i was quite pleased . see the home secretary pleased. see the home secretary overin pleased. see the home secretary over in france to her counterparts trying find a way through it. but there's going need to be a lot more than that donein need to be a lot more than that done in order to protect not only our borders, but also the poor souls are actually putting themselves and their families into completely on fit ships and coming little boats and coming over. coming little boats and coming over . and we think about the over. and we think about the last two home secretaries, priti patel suella braverman very , patel suella braverman very, very tough talking that a necessary part of doing the job you have to some tough . no you have to some tough. no i think what's more important is you act tough and you act effective rather than you talk tough sometimes. and this would be my argument about both suella braverman and priti patel talking tough is , a substitute talking tough is, a substitute for being successful and know we can all dog whistle can all talk as tough as like but in the end

if you don't make the country if you don't tackle crime if you don't help keep us protected from terrorism if you don't our borders you can talk tough as you like. you're not actually the job of home secretary, which is to keep the country , our is to keep the country, our communities and our people safe . now, you had to resign from that job. we're familiar with seeing politicians having to resign from big jobs , resign from big jobs, particularly in recent times. how tough is it to resign ? what how tough is it to resign? what goes through your mind? what is how does it happen it's you know, i had gone through a lot of difficulties in terms the expenses scandal, which had impacted my family. i was only able to do the job because my then husband actually helped to care for our children and helped to work with me in the constituency i just couldn't carry on doing it in those circumstances. and then of to add to the agony a year later, i lost my parliamentary seat as well, which in some ways was unexpected, but nevertheless was

was very difficult . it phil unexpected, but nevertheless was was very difficult. it phil i was very difficult. it phil i was talking to somebody just this morning actually who's just finished being a sort of mainstream politician it's mainstream politician. it's enormously . it's been enormously difficult. it's been your life, you know, you don't get an mp, as you well get to be an mp, as you well know. without putting know. gloria without putting a lot into, it putting lot of effort into, it putting your life into really . and your life into it really. and then a sudden that's then all of a sudden that's taken from you. it's a period grieving. it's a complete of your life in some ways . it's your life in some ways. it's a liberation. of course , and i'm liberation. of course, and i'm very lucky. 12 years on now from that happening . but i have that happening. but i have a lovely life , have a very lovely life, have a very interesting and i hope useful and fun as well . interesting and i hope useful and fun as well. but at interesting and i hope useful and fun as well . but at the time and fun as well. but at the time it is like losing the thing that you've worked all your life for. and it's a enormously difficult and takes some time to get over any words of advice for any of the people who going through that very process. now i mean, bofis that very process. now i mean, boris johnson, let's the list is pretty actually, but, you know,

two prime ministers having to forced out in just recent weeks really i know and for liz truss although i sort of absolutely what the damage she's to the country on a personal i think to myself actually you know you are relatively young and you didn't even have a period of time as a prime minister to build any sort of record so feel personally sympathetic to her. i think you need to take a bit of time, need to get your head together. you need to what it is you can. sometimes people think that because you've been mp or a minister, you just step into minister, you can just step into other it's not like, other roles. it's not like, i mean, you're doing brilliantly , mean, you're doing brilliantly, but you look, i very but you do. so you look, i very lucky. and also you had those skills anyway. yeah you know is quite difficult to find life after frontline but it's not impossible and i think it's important to find things that you feel passionate about and that you think you can contribute. and i've been really lucky to be able to do that in the nhs, in children, social

care , on what's going on in care, on what's going on in politics a bit of working abroad . well, coming up, i actually met my partner at yoga , so met my partner at yoga, so that's another go online and go to yoga . that's my to yoga. that's my recommendation. if you're in your late fifties and you end alone . here on gb news live , be alone. here on gb news live, be keeping you in the picture, finding out what's happening across the country and out why it matters to you. we'll have the facts fast with our team of reporters and specialist correspondents wherever it's happening and whenever it's happening, we'll be there in 12 noon on tv and online gb news. it's your news

you mentioned the spotlight you had from your family and the impact on your family when you were going through the toughest times in politics. you . you just

times in politics. you. you just turned 60 looking fabulous. couple couple of years ago. you you separated from your husband after 33 years of marriage . after 33 years of marriage. yeah, you did that. 58 years old. i mean , some women might be old. i mean, some women might be thinking myself . i look my thinking myself. i look my husband very much, but i've got what was i bother . husband very much, but i've got what was i bother. for. i told me why i'm talking nonsense. oh well, when it first happens, thatis well, when it first happens, that is what you think, you know. i mean if there are women out there to whom this is just happening now let me me say to you as my sister in law, very close friends used to say me at the time, it will get better. and i used to look at them and think, no, that's the end of my life. never well, let me just say it, does get better, you know, i mean, i grieved for my job, so i've grieve for my marriage, which was a very happy marriage, which was a very happy marriage of 33 years. and in some ways that will i will never

get over that . but i have got get over that. but i have got a new life. i've got a very lovely new life. i've got a very lovely new partner. i've realised that it's possible to come through those times. so let me just say ihope those times. so let me just say i hope it never happens to you, gloria, me just say to gloria, but let me just say to those has happened, those to whom it has happened, things really get better. all right. you don't have to answer this but i'm intrigued now, this one, but i'm intrigued now, how meet you meet how do you meet people? you meet them it friends them online. is it friends of friends to say so. tell friends i'd like to say so. tell me anything you're uncomfortable with. i was just wondering, just in does happen. in case it does happen. you're looking with your looking for help with your dating come to dating profile. i'll come to you, gloria varella dating apps. ihave you, gloria varella dating apps. i have used them. i actually met my partner at yoga lesson . go my partner at yoga lesson. go onune my partner at yoga lesson. go online and go to yoga. that's my recommendation . if you are in recommendation. if you are in your late fifties , you end up your late fifties, you end up alone. brilliant brilliant . alone. brilliant brilliant. right. strictly come dancing . right. strictly come dancing. yes. how do you get invited onto strictly come dancing? you get a letter, a phone call. how does this happen? well, let me say, first of all, you know, if you

are in your late fifties, your marriage splits , you're marriage splits, you're beginning to think, oh no, i'm getting a bit old. you know, you the thing you think of as your main job over , there's not much main job over, there's not much better than strictly come dancing, can i say? and what happened ? and i did it in 2020, happened? and i did it in 2020, which was a heart of covid. i got an email out of the blue earlier on in the year around abouti earlier on in the year around about i think it was april, something like that , possibly something like that, possibly even slightly than that. and they said , you know, would you they said, you know, would you be interested in doing it? and the producers heard your podcast knows that you were the first female home secretary and wonders if might be something you'd be interested in doing. so sort of you know it's a bit like when brown said, would you like to be the home secretary? know it's a slightly slower route. and then i thought, well, okay, i'll to so then you talk i'll to them. so then you talk and it carries on over several months they're obviously well

first of all that you they first of all in that you they were work whether or were trying work out whether or not do strictly at not they could do strictly at all the pandemic then all given the pandemic and then sometime the july they came back to me having sort of kept in touch with me and they said we want you to do it and i have say, you know, despite not succeeding to be the best dancer ever to do strictly i abso lutely loved it. it was a massive adventure having the make up having the sparkles, doing something completely different as , far as i was different as, far as i was concerned, was just a sort of fantastic rebooting my life in very many ways . that's lovely . very many ways. that's lovely. hancock he is getting a bit of stick at the moment. he a serving mp . he is in the jungle serving mp. he is in the jungle . two questions, i suppose , . two questions, i suppose, should a serving mp ever take part in a reality tv show ? look, part in a reality tv show? look, we both know what it's like when

you've got constituency, your to. i don't think if you're a serving mp you take yourself away from your constituency for the length of time the has. so i think he made a mistake that i don't want to be super sanctimonious about it because think you know to be perfectly honest with you. i think there were people in that jungle who got to answer boy george, got to answer for boy george, for than probably matt for one, than probably matt hancock about going into it. i mean he will have a covid inquiry at some point or another that he'll need to report to. so no i don't think he should have done it. i think his constituents have something to say about it. and i suspect means thinks he's the end means he thinks he's at the end of political career as well. of his political career as well. would into jungle, would you go into the jungle, why would want to go into it? i've had sequins and gorgeous makeup. why would i want to go and around in martin chew and roll around in martin chew on genitals gloria on some animals genitals gloria jackie smith it's been a pleasure to talk your life and times and you're very positive outlook on the next stage of

your life thank you . coming up your life thank you. coming up senior mp caroline nokes, who's to believe me and what will this do to my career if i talk about it .

caroline we were both elected . caroline we were both elected. in 2010 just watching you from afar.it in 2010 just watching you from afar. it seems like you've found your voice in the last few years that you are very different politician to the one and parliament in 2010. yeah you know i think one of the how she's criticisms i've heard about myself was that i was just about myself was that i was just a bot and you know, i'm a tory bot and you know, i'm really not and i think being government minister for three years that was incredible and it was a fascinate experience but that an gives you some that coming to an gives you some freedom. it gives you the ability to actually say what you think. and i think i've also

become a much more mature politician. i've got to the point in my career where i actually i'm going to say what i think not give people the line to take, which is incredibly bonng to take, which is incredibly boring for interviews to listen to, but actually doesn't give the public a sense of what's really going on and what you really going on and what you really in is it's much more liberating when you when you make that decision. i reckon that let's just at what's going on in parliament your share women and equalities select committee . recently we found an committee. recently we found an mp who's resigned after report found he made unwanted unwelcome sexual advances to a junior of staff . it's not the first staff. it's not the first example i could run through a list of people who have been exposed in the media for making unwanted advances to people for. mp who have been reprimanded for bullying their staff. what is going on in parliament. all

these bad apples. so i've long since said we should have a tighter system . discipline, tighter system. discipline, codes of conduct , the whips from codes of conduct, the whips from the different political should work together to make sure that everybody understands what rules are. now. i was told a while ago that if i thought there was ever going to be an explicit code of conduct to what mp could couldn't do, i was deluded and she i think we need that. i don't know whether it's any different any workplace different to any other workplace apart from fact that if you apart from the fact that if you were to behave like that in tescos or in a big accountancy firm, a bank, you'd be out in your and what we have in parliament is the inalienable right if your electorate have put faith in you to be their elected. there is currently mechanism that can be used stop you from going into that place . you from going into that place. i think that's wrong. i think everybody wants to see something much more restrictive. so when you've got people who have been charged with serious sexual offences, is it right that we

can't stop them from coming into parliament? but i think the numbers are relatively but the cases are very and we should be looking at it through that prism, not all. it's only a number, but actually why these serious incidents happening? what is it about ? and i'm what is it about? and i'm convinced that harassment is not about sex , about the about sex, about the exploitation of power, about from one individual over another. and we have to redress that imbalance and make sure that imbalance and make sure that young people working in parliament, women in parliament, young men, i sometimes think that they are the most vulnerable, that give them a mechanism where they know that they're going to be protected. why do say that young gay men maybe the most vulnerable? because people, don't talk about it. and i think that there is still taboo around still a taboo around homosexuality . and there have homosexuality. and there have been some cases where i can think of individuals who've harassed male and female members of staff and the of staff of staff and the member of staff has had all of the sympathy, all of column inches press. of the column inches the press. and this . and also

and there'll be this. and also when it comes to young gay men. and think that that's really and i think that that's really a fascinating insight into how all our psychology still works around homosexuality . people are around homosexuality. people are still afraid of coming out in 2022. now, you know that shouldn't be right. we should all be perfectly free to be who we are so that worries me to a huge extent that there are still young men who are absolutely terrified of coming forward, looking your own looking a bit at your own experience and you've talked about your own experience . so about your own experience. so last year you accused stanley johnson, the father , the then johnson, the father, the then prime minister, boris johnson , prime minister, boris johnson, of inappropriately touching you at the conservative party conference . this was back in conference. this was back in 2003 when you would have been a young delegate or young conservative activist. what what happened ? i was at the reception happened? i was at the reception of a hotel checking into my mind being be on the blackpool seafront and he smacked me on the backside and said oh romsey you've got a lovely seat, lives

with to this day. and i told with me to this day. and i told plenty of people i've never report as a complaint because i didn't, i didn't know what channels were be i didn't think i believed we believe and say i genuinely thought it would be a lot easier to get of caroline nights up and coming candidate for marginal seat of romsey than it would be to get rid of somebody like stanley johnson, who was a former mep. he at the time was a candidate down in the west country i just who do west country and i just who do i go to? going to believe me. go to? he's going to believe me. and what will this to my career if i talk about now look i'm if i talk about it now look i'm a much older, seasoned politician . and although i was politician. and although i was accused of lying by one former cabinet minister , the account is cabinet minister, the account is completely accurate and listen to it. and i wanted to convey the message, if i'm still not prepared to talk about it and report , then how a younger report, then how a younger people in politics ever going to have the courage to speak out about the hideous experiences that some of them have been through and continue to through his response when your

accusation put to him was that he had no recollection of caroline mouth at all, how did you feel , when you heard his you feel, when you heard his response ? completely. i'm response? completely. i'm bothered . that is a man who can bothered. that is a man who can have no impact upon me and i'm not interested in his views on anything. is his sort of unwanted advance that is not the only advance of a sexual nature that you have subject to in your time in politics. no but i've been i've been around politics very long time when i was a lot youngen very long time when i was a lot younger, thinner and prettier, and to be quite frank, it's commonplace and some much more serious than others. and mostly you develop an incredibly hard shell , so it just bounces off. shell, so it just bounces off. it's easier in parliament to allow to become one of the lads, to just laugh off incidents and actually the view i take now is, look, we can't do that. we as women can't do nobody should do

that. women can't do nobody should do that . and not only must we be that. and not only must we be brave enough to report and, talk about and highlight the incidents that happen, but we should also be prepared to confront and it out when we see it happening to colleagues, to young staffers. and i think that's a huge responsibility that's a huge responsibility that i feel. now, look, i'm a i'm a 50 year old woman now. it takes quite a lot to make me flinch, but i still see much younger people in parliament who are subject to unwanted who talk about the bullying and harassment that they received. and, you know, it's upon all of us wherever we it happen, whether it's in parliament, whether it's in parliament, whether it's in parliament, whether it's the tube to call it out when , you it to out when, you say it to humiliate those people who still think okay to think it's okay to inappropriately touch others, who think okay to make on unwanted comments and why. i think things like making public sexual harassment a specific crime are so important, it just sends a message, this is intolerable. we're not going to accept it any longer and all of

us have a role to play in calling out. and you wrote about an experience that you had as a teenager with boyfriend, then boyfriend who and you said your friend stepped in and helped you recognise it wasn't normal to . recognise it wasn't normal to. allow another person to dictate your every action how you spent your every action how you spent your time , what you wore, what your time, what you wore, what your time, what you wore, what you weighed . do you have any you weighed. do you have any specific memories of that boyfriend and he he enacted any of those terrible things ? you of those terrible things? you know, my specific memory of that time is about a brilliant girl. who helen , who was my best who helen, who was my best friend at college , who every friend at college, who every single day would go and buy me a 15 iced one and stand over me whilst i ate it because she knew that i was monitoring my weight to such an extent that any excess calories were absolutely forbidden . and that's how forbidden. and that's how i choose. forbidden. and that's how i choose . remember that? actually, choose. remember that? actually, it's about empowerment. it's about recognising not only in our own relationships when they're toxic , but in others they're toxic, but in others giving other women a safe space to just ask , help and highlight

to just ask, help and highlight what they're going through and be confident enough to talk about experiences . and that about experiences. and that really matters to me and it's why i think that we absolutely be stepping in and making sure that 60 to 18 year olds have a sixth form college because it's not statutory sexual and relationship education, sex and relationship education, sex and relationship education. and i just think we have to those teenagers , 16 and 18 who will be teenagers, 16 and 18 who will be going through their first relationship, who will be experience seeing all sorts of things they haven't you know, they might have been taught about school, but they're about it in school, but they're not doing the not they're not doing the practical. so have to when practical. so we have to when they to that later teenage they get to that later teenage stage, give sex spaces and stage, give them sex spaces and environments where they can talk about what experiencing. and that which that was context in which i first that is that first mentioned that is that i feel really strongly if it feel really strongly that if it hadnt feel really strongly that if it hadn't been for helen, i don't know what would have happened to me. this little me. i'd probably be this little stick this day . we all need stick to this day. we all need helen's, we do need helen's. is

in our lives. you don't have to answer this, but i feel like i should ask. you is not the only toxic relationship you've ever been in. yeah think so. pretty much mean. look, i'm a i'm a 50 year old single woman, and i actually, i think we can all look back on experiences we've had over our past. and think, you know, that that wasn't great. and why didn't i speak up then? and i wasn't comfortable with that one, did i put up with that for as long as i did? and you know, there's sort of all sorts of little bits of your past it turned you into the person that you today person that you are today interesting this sort of cancel culture trans debate anti woke woke there's a lot going on at the moment you called on the government to introduce gender neutral toilets in to make life easier for trans and non—binary young people . some parents will young people. some parents will applaud for that many parents will take a very different view . what do you say to those parents say? well, no, because

my daughter might be might be scared or whatever, whatever it is . so this is driven , from my is. so this is driven, from my view , romsey school, the main view, romsey school, the main block toilets in 1983. girls loos the most terrifying place in the entire building. and it is the 1980s and they're very different today. but with both hairspray and cigarette . yeah. hairspray and cigarette. yeah. and arriving 11 and being told by friends , goodness sake, don't by friends, goodness sake, don't use the main problems , the use the main problems, the terrifying and. i remember that now. i was just geeky little 11 year old. imagine if i'd non—binary or trans or confused about anything to do with my identity and i look at i think gender neutral lose it's absolutely about how you do not the existence of them so . i went the existence of them so. i went to a brilliant place in finsbury a couple of weeks ago and came out , met the owner of the out, met the owner of the building and i said, you'll lose a perfect each of them, an individual room, so not a cubicle a room. so floor to ceiling doors and walls with its

own basin its own hand dryer. and there women's lives there were immensely and there were gender neutral loos . and what gender neutral loos. and what matters is that? they are safe that they are comfortable that i can remember going to heathrow airport and absolutely judging their new terminal on the quality of we all do and my message to schools is if you want to introduce neutral loos , want to introduce neutral loos, do it properly, do it cleverly don't have cubicles that people can put mirrors underneath the doors . i can put mirrors underneath the doors. i mean, can put mirrors underneath the doors . i mean, that's can put mirrors underneath the doors. i mean, that's hideous anyway, isn't it? so i just think that we need to have safe spaces for all of our young people to use the loo in comfort and they're happy . and i and where they're happy. and i can remember going home from school, having not to the school, having not been to the loo day. i don't want any loo all day. i don't want any young person feel like young person to feel like there's a divide in this society, there's a divide in society, but there's a divide in your party. there'll be a your own party. there'll be a lot don't it's a lot, lot i don't know if it's a lot, but certainly some of your colleagues would cos you're colleagues would say cos you're just what just so woke caroline. what doing in this party. give to any of those views. what are or do they in general intimidated by

people who, who, who attack you for and will attack you for what you've just said as i frequently referred to as woke. now try having a son. i might. she rhymes it. that's no fun. look i always challenge back when people say you're so i look at them. so what is do you mean by woke? what is it? what's the actual of woke? and i think we would all agree that it means being aware of who suffer being aware of those who suffer discrimination, particularly race, and say, look, if people want to accuse me of being woke, i wear it as a badge. pride caroline nokes, thank you very much indeed . thank you. thanks much indeed. thank you. thanks watching or listening to? the first episode of gloria meets. i'll be back next sunday, every sunday at 6:00. i'll be and about listening to your stories and politicians to open up. tell us who they really are and what they really think. have a .

they really think. have a. great looking ahead to tomorrow's weather across the. icy and foggy towards the northeast with wind and rain. foggy towards the northeast with wind and rain . the southwest. wind and rain. the southwest. let's take look and will detect a few showers for orkney and shetland otherwise mostly dry start on monday scotland cold though with icy patches and some thought to meanwhile very wet and windy . much of northern and windy. much of northern ireland heavy rain arriving overnight dry across northern england. in the northwest temperatures will be a few degrees above freezing but in the north—east it will be icy , the north—east it will be icy, foggy . north wales is also foggy. north wales is also looking dry first, so it will be rather cloudy. further south there will be heavy and very strong winds which will spread across wales throughout the morning whilst the west midlands will get off to a mostly cloudy start for the east , the skies start for the east, the skies will be clear. it does mean

it'll be quite chilly though, especially in rural areas clare and chennai. across of east anglia. temperatures be around or perhaps a touch below freezing, so some frost and icy patches are possible. first thing cloudy for southern parts in south—east it'll be mostly dry whilst . heavy rain and very dry whilst. heavy rain and very strong winds will bring difficult driving conditions in the south—west. the wind and rain will continue north eastwards throughout the morning, though. northern parts are set to remain mostly dry and sunny from that's how the weather's shaping up throughout tomorrow morning . on mark dolan tomorrow morning. on mark dolan tonight it in my opinion, the return of donald trump to twitter is annoying all of the right people , all the tories right people, all the tories risking a betrayal with rumoured plans for a switzerland type deal plans for a switzerland type deal. do this and tories are toast forever . my mar needs toast forever. my mar needs guest is brexit supporting former labour mp john man who

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