tonight on fire are just rumours swirl about a new swiss star relationship with the eu. we'll ask is brexit being we'll celebrate the football's today terry butcher former england captain a man who played in three world cups. we'll discuss the 60 win against iran. and joining me on talking pints, the founder of pineapple dance studios , debbie moore. but studios, debbie moore. but before all of that, let's get the news headlines . hello. good

the news headlines. hello. good evening. i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom whales are back in the world cup for the first time since 1958 with kick off just underway against the united states in. qatar. earlier, england . their opening match england. their opening match against iran winning six two with goals scored by bellingham , saka, sterling rashford and grealish. both england , wales , grealish. both england, wales, along with five other european teams , decided not to wear teams, decided not to wear a coloured anti—discrimination armband in their matches. it's over concerns players may be penalised guys with a yellow card on the pitch for wearing a non sanctioned kit while these england fans say they're happy with the result . i thought they with the result. i thought they really out the bag as we have a slow start but. once they got going they really got going and i just couldn't stop running. we were expecting that negativity, but flat back five. i know goals football intensity and strangely enough a comfortable win we had

carried on. it could have been eight or nine, but settle for that fantastic performance . i that fantastic performance. i can't really criticise anyone just that. everyone was pretty faultless. the prime minister says re—establishing stability is the critical first step as he set out plans to stabilise the uk economy . addressing business uk economy. addressing business leaders at the confederation of british industry conference, rishi sunak said he placing innovation at heart of his government agenda . he told government agenda. he told delegates controlling inflation was critical to improving living standards and to putting the economy on stable footing for the future . a court has heard the future. a court has heard a woman who left to join so—called islamic state seven years ago was influenced by a determined and effective propaganda machine . shamima beckham's lawyers says she should have treated as a child trafficking . the 23 year child trafficking. the 23 year old is appealing the removal her uk citizenship after was revoked

when she was found in syrian refugee camp. she has denied any involvement in terror activities. human rights lawyer high up saying bango says bacon should be treated same as a british citizen. the issue is if he's british citizen, which he because she holds a british passport or she did hold a british passport or a british citizenship, and should she be treated like other british citizens, or should she be sent to a country where she's not born and she lived in.7 or just born and she lived in.7 orjust because the basis that her parents came from that 162 people have been killed , more people have been killed, more than 700 injured in an earthquake . indonesia, according earthquake. indonesia, according to local officials. the epicentre , the 5.6 magnitude epicentre, the 5.6 magnitude earthquake was the west java region , 75 kilometres from the region, 75 kilometres from the capital jakarta . rescuers are capital jakarta. rescuers are trying to reach trapped under the rubble after at least 25 aftershocks hit the region . the aftershocks hit the region. the comedian jo ly said to have

shredded comedian jo ly said to have shredde d £10,000 in protest at shredded £10,000 in protest at david beckham's world cup role , david beckham's world cup role, says he didn't actually do it. the comic felt himself giving the former player an ultimatum of standing down from his position as qatar cup ambassador or he would the cash which could go to lgbt charities . tv online go to lgbt charities. tv online and dab plus this is gb news. now it's back to nigel . now it's back to nigel. good evening . now we've got lots good evening. now we've got lots of happy things to talk about tonight the extraordinary six two win in the first game of the world cup against iran. that's pretty cool. we'll be about dancing and moore success in business. so lots happy things to talk about but let's start with this subject. yes. oh dear. oh, dear. oh, dear. i know .

oh, dear. oh, dear. i know. hoped we'd never need to discuss brexit again. that was down. it was over. get brexit done. we were told in 2090, but i'm sorry to say that it hasn't gone away. big page story yesterday in the sunday times from what was said to be a very well—placed source hinting that perhaps we'd go for a swiss style deal. now the swiss deal with the european union is complicated. actually is headed towards being really part of the single market, which means your rules would be aligned. it means annual contributions . so those people contributions. so those people in brussels , it also means in brussels, it also means effectively free movement of people . anything along those people. anything along those lines would be a betrayal of brexit. but you argue, you really could argue that to some extent brexit . we've been rather extent brexit. we've been rather let down by this conservative party anyway, apart from getting us out and reversing the status

quo, our membership what actually in the years since the referendum. have they delivered. have things improved for britain's fishermen. no, i improved for our five and a half million men and women running small businesses or acting as sole traders. no have things improved in huge financial services industry that employs so people and raises so revenue? well, to date, from what i can see, not a single regular option has been changed . has has been changed. has immigration changed ? well, no, immigration changed? well, no, actually , legal immigration net actually, legal immigration net is still running at over a quarter of a million people a yeah quarter of a million people a year. if you have a look at the small print of jeremy hunt's budget last week, you'll see they intended to carry on at that number. as for illegal across the english channel, well , i think maybe you've heard enough for me on that subject for now . so there is a forjust now. so there is a feeling out there in the amongst many if a brexit but many that if a brexit but actually it's not being done properly. it's not being

delivered into that space. come the rejoin is the those who actually us to be tied to single market rules those who lack the confidence to believe that we can actually be a self—governing, independent , self—governing, independent, democratic nation . and in the democratic nation. and in the face of all of this, the appointment of the globalist remainer , center—left social remainer, center—left social democrat hunt as chancellor , i democrat hunt as chancellor, i thought was the first very, very bad sign. i don't yet whether they are going to fully betray brexit but i have my fears . they are going to fully betray brexit but i have my fears. in 2017 i wrote in the daily telegraph that i feared the great brexit betrayal had begun on enough when we saw the chequers plan . brian. brexit in chequers plan. brian. brexit in name only . chequers plan. brian. brexit in name only. that proved to be right . and in 2019, the right. and in 2019, the conservative got the worst electoral whopping it has ever had in its 200 years. are they making same mistakes again? is brexit being betrayed? farage at

gb news dot uk ? joining me is gb news dot uk? joining me is somebody whose fight only honed in on where conservative party is, but more where much of their electorate are. chris hope. teddy telegraph. fame for choppers podcast the peter brook all of it. many other things and chris the frantic attempts in the last 24 hours to deny that sunday times story, which makes me even more suspicious. well i think it came from jeremy hunt, the chancellor, talking to journalists after the autumn statement he may made or may mention switzerland or something them to give it to him, but enough there for that story to appear from a senior government source in the sunday times and a lot of your european tour implies that . happy about things implies that. happy about things today though nervous . but to today though nervous. but to hear what rishi sunak's at the cbi today i'll read out to you. he said, under my leadership, the uk will not pursue any with europe. that relies on alignment

with eu laws . now he's saying with eu laws. now he's saying that as prime now for tories that's a big moment because they weren't sure , you know, suella weren't sure, you know, suella braverman we know is in that as this token you are sceptical that the top table, most of the people in that top team around sunak or remainers i know sunak voted brexit, allegedly voted for brexit, but allegedly a few of us remember winning at the time for brexit. but he did campaign he sighs and also he did come over brexit. and also he voted brexit. but that statement that the new credo which will reassure brexiteers that sunak will do a lot like switzerland . let me just cast switzerland. let me just cast some doubt on that young fella call will dry . let's just say call will dry. let's just say a quick clipper will. speaking after this guy. i got to quick clipper will. speaking after this guy . i got to tell after this guy. i got to tell you, he is remainer in chief. you could case between two legacies. the first is brexit , legacies. the first is brexit, which we don't want and would depnve which we don't want and would deprive us of the opportunities and rights that you guys lived for most of lives we can choose

to stop brexit . we can choose to to stop brexit. we can choose to stop brexit . so we'll dry stop stop brexit. so we'll dry stop brexit. campaigner the whole thing is a catastrophe learned today. he's now a special adviser in number ten. you do you see why some of us are getting nervous? yeah. i thought my alarm. some people, we're not sure what he's doing it, are we? we're not sure what we're doing. we're not sure what we're doing. we just had numbers number ten, but people have all sorts of views. it was a democratic moment. be moment. you don't to be a brexiteer work in number ten. brexiteer to work in number ten. you different views or you can have different views or human beings. you can change your many others have. your views. many others have. i mean, written about david mean, i've written about david gauke rampant eurosceptic gauke was a rampant eurosceptic back then he back in 21, of course. then he became a remainer in 20 1617. so you can move the he's a you can move the dice. he's a young may have his young guy. he may have his views. don't panic too much. what i said in 2017 and in your newspaper, the great brexit. but god, didn't believe me, did god, you didn't believe me, did you? you were trying. you? i thought you were trying. you trying go broke. you you were trying to go broke. you tried throw the. the tried to throw the. the narrative is quite useful, even if win something because it if you win something because it helps votes your next

helps you win votes your next project. another project. i didn't want another article. i a i'm a class sue the question how are you going to reform and get nigel farage? well, obviously 16. i thought my work was done. they betrayed it . the may deal was brexit in name . we didn't leave the name. we didn't leave the european union. i came back into the game. we get a very good kicking in european election. as a that, they won an 80 a result of that, they won an 80 seat the next seat majority at the next election . i mean mean i they election. i mean i mean i they still have did much to help still have i did as much to help the conservatives that majority as anybody frankly. but they've squandered done squandered it. they've done almost an 80 seat majority. almost with an 80 seat majority. my almost with an 80 seat majority. my position is if we don't know the truth this yeah i'm speculating tonight i'm worried about where we are if they do betray brexit. i can't just stand idly by. it's as simple that but what that means in real terms, we'll have to see. but what about your readers, how worried are they? are worried are they? they are concerned about it. i mean, they worried are they? they are con concerned ut it. i mean, they worried are they? they are con concerned about mean, they worried are they? they are con concerned about the an, they worried are they? they are con concerned about the way:hey worried are they? they are con concerned about the way it's are concerned about the way it's going. think there are going. but i think there are things happening and don't forget, there has been the russian that russian invasion of ukraine that has covid crisis. those has been a covid crisis. those are two massive things which

which would the agenda of which would derail the agenda of any any government. any and of any government. so they squeeze the they trying to squeeze the government the government short squeeze the last of government last the last bit of government they can in two and a half years two years for the election and the they're taking, the measures they're taking, you know, been good know, etc. been nothing good from think you from brexit. well, i think you could argue the covid could argue that the covid vaccine leadership by vaccine was leadership by boris johnson ahead johnson when pushed ahead with the the freedom to do the oh, we had the freedom to do it didn't happen and of course with ukraine also outside the he did almost and the did really almost bully and the eu he getting further eu and he getting further involved ukrainians involved behind the ukrainians you certainly you could argue that certainly and at what they're and if you look at what they're with this they're stripping away you 5000 pieces of you know 5000 pieces of eu that's and that's they should know and i say they it's in train i'm not the government is all about it thinking okay they might be but i think i think panic yet on brexit i get the vaccine rollout yeah ukraine leadership the orcus pact i do get those things but there's not a direct feeling from people that vote . i hear from people that vote. i hear the cbi today i thought tony danker he's saying what can we do it shows the opportunity for the time the remain in supporting cbi are saying to the

civil servants and ministers show us how to take advantage of brexit. and i thought it was just quite a big challenge for. the officials out there behind you why provided we keep you in in why provided we keep large that's what he large scale cheap that's what he is saying to fill areas of the economy where immigration is required and of course that also sunak his speech to say no, actually we to get the trust of people on immigration. and that means still, that means dealing with the with the small boats on the south coast, you know very well. but he's not going deal with the boats on the with the small boats on the south they haven't south coast. they haven't reduced by a reduced that. you by getting a better arrangement with the french and they help you french and then they help you deal it. how years are deal with it. how many years are we have this rot for? i we going to have this rot for? i mean, look, i'll tell you one other slightly other thing, slightly separate to relevant, think, to brexit but relevant, i think, to brexit but relevant, i think, to are. all of this. to where we are. all of this. and that is we did live show of ours at large last in southampton southampton has more small businesses per capita than any other city, the uk. i cannot tell you the palpable anger in that room that a concert would have chancellor puts up

corporation tax puts up dividend tax a will not rethink you know really crushing i'll 35 rules the not at all other than paying for a massive bill from the covid crisis aren't they've got to do something you've got to give them a bit of a there was real concern week no question david jones iag supporter he was saying you know how can we no longer how can vote for longer work out how can vote for some of these measures? it's quite a big deal to vote down finance measures. and will finance measures. and you will there a finance bill there should be a finance bill coming autumn coming from the autumn statement. that's statement. but whether that's that's i that's something a rebellion, i don't wait to. but don't know yet. we wait to. but i it did feel on i think it did feel on conservative liberal on these policies because the are there's definitely concern and 55 days before we were supposed to support a tax cutting budget they're a shambles. chris, i found a shambles i hope you're right and that we're not seeing a brexit betrayal that so that meant what do you think the reaction overnight to that headune reaction overnight to that headline on the in such poor

paper like the sunday times shows how nervous they are. and i think statement from sunak today is now the new creed they'll be used to judge him for why brexit. chris hope thank you very much indeed . okay. we can very much indeed. okay. we can believe it for now, but we're going to keep an absolutely hawkish eye on in hawkish eye on events in a minute , be joined by england minute, be joined by england legend terry butcher, we'll legend terry butcher, and we'll talk about yes, we'll talk about england's when we'll also go live to a pub in wales to see how they're getting back with you in. a couple of minutes.

well, some of your reactions to this brexit debate that appears to have from nowhere come back to have from nowhere come back to national provinces and prominence. ian says . hunt and prominence. ian says. hunt and soon i can not be trusted. brian is there game tom it was portrayed from the beginning of may's deceitful negotiations of commons and civil service wanted

it, but they could, they could try and find way for us to return in some form . and you return in some form. and you know, leave means leave. but it didn't, did it? there's a lot of distrust out that i think that isn't just on brexit. there was just distrust of politicians as a whole now i'm trying to get some up to date what's some up to date on what's happening in welsh game. i won't report that were put down my ear until i they were facts but as a as a when i do will head to pub in wales but it's been the opening game today of campaign and the cup and i'm joined former england captain soccer legend and of course three world cups terry butcher , you played cups terry butcher, you played in have you ever see that opening game like that from england? no i thought the football was good . the patience football was good. the patience was good , much added time at the was good, much added time at the end of both halves. was it 24 minutes of time? 24 minutes. it was almost as much as a an extra time in 20 minutes in any touch that but you it was a horrendous

collision between the around goalkeeper and defender that you know they had have the treatment and it didn't matter about time as long as he's all right it was as long as he's all right it was a injury head injury. yeah a head injury head injury. yeah he's sort of bust nose and it was bleeding and he carried for on of minutes or then on a couple of minutes or then had i'm surprised had to come off. i'm surprised it come off quicker it didn't come off quicker because protocol. now, because of the protocol. now, with was a with concussion. it was a concussion. yeah under our club rules , league rules, etcetera, rules, league rules, etcetera, he would have off . but this he would have come off. but this is rules. but i'll come to is fifa rules. but i'll come to faith. come to fifa . but, faith. i'll come to fifa. but, but in terms of the way the england are, because we scored six goals we conceded to in terms of the way they played looking looked like a strong unit or around a bit weaker than we possibly thought. well they're in the world they're 20th in the world to that good know and that pretty good you know and they're a team that this is their third successive world cup.so their third successive world cup. so they haven't past the group they're group stage but they're well—led, organised. well—led, well organised. call us manchester us curiosity who's a manchester united manager twice. so united system manager twice. so he stuff, but they he knows his stuff, but they just. just told them to just. they just told them to shreds think the way shreds at times, i think the way that played. but certainly

that they played. but certainly the younger ones, you know, bellingham is the the bellingham is the man of the match. and you've got people like saka scoring two goals. and then jack grealish scored one at then jack grealish scored one at the end. was very good the end. so it was very good football to get through. it football to get through. so it didn't it didn't didn't you know, it didn't matter they team matter if they are a hard team to beat england, just blitz them out of sight and just disappointing. they conceded the two take six to two goals but we take six to anything but think probably anything but i think we probably would and see we play would and on and see we play america on friday play wales america on friday we play wales next and that'll be the end next week and that'll be the end of stage. so looking of our group stage. so looking good through. it's good for going through. it's looking these next two looking good. but these next two matches more iran. matches are far more than iran. so england are going to find a way. you know, they might way. but you know, they might have injuries with have slight injuries with maguire one or two other maguire and one or two other players can't play. it's players still can't play. it's down but the ones down to the squad, but the ones you people like and you know, people like saka and rashford, as they've rashford, he scored as they've sort know, they've had sort of, you know, they've had redemption penalty redemption from those penalty misses euros . yeah. well, misses in the euros. yeah. well, nice see wembley was nice to see wembley was absolutely horrible wasn't it. wembley was absolutely horrible . let's stay with me, please. let's to qatar. let's meet the pool. let's to qatar. let's meet the pool . hawkins, who's there pool. hawkins, who's live there 7 pool. hawkins, who's live there ? paul, i'd love to ask you number one, you know, whether

many england fans and if there were what sort of jubilee were they? and i'm hearing also lots of stories about tickets in errors and generally it sounds like it might be a bit of organisational shambles that . organisational shambles that. we've spoken to england fans who have experienced , i mean spoken have experienced, i mean spoken to some who haven't. i to say most of them are in a pretty jubilant mood. but don't take it from me. let's speak to some england fans and hear from them ourselves. guys, thanks for speaking really speaking to us. really appreciate. first of all, how was today? fantastic was the game today? fantastic start. yeah, it was really positive. it was great to see so many, players score. many, so many players score. we're harry kane we're not reliant on harry kane anymore. was really any more. anymore. it was really any more. but for just for just but just for one. just for just for just one game. yeah. yeah. forjust one game. yeah. yeah. hopefully that's yeah. how hopefully that's cool. yeah. how did it, man? can't did you find it, man? you can't ask better first game. six ask for a better first game. six goals. i ask for? yeah and goals. what i ask for? yeah and did you guys have any problems ticketing getting in? because there reports there was some reports that people having with the people having problems with the app. plenty so i'm app. no we got plenty so i'm couple of hours early but when

we there concerned we got there and we concerned about security it was about security because it was like security . so like airport style security. so it's really slow going through so i imagine, know, a lot of so i imagine, you know, a lot of other fans had problems, but yeah. and how has your experience qatar been so far yeah. and how has your e)guys nce qatar been so far yeah. and how has your e)guys are qatar been so far yeah. and how has your e)guys are stayingr been so far yeah. and how has your e)guys are staying onzen so far yeah. and how has your e)guys are staying on the so far yeah. and how has your e)guys are staying on the cruise ? guys are staying on the cruise ship. it like? amazing. ship. what's it like? amazing. yeah. star, brilliant, yeah. five star, brilliant, really people. it's really friendly people. it's been no been excellent far. yeah, no problem. whoever . problem. it's just whoever. yeah. about, you know, yeah. and what about, you know, they that they serve they that they wouldn't serve alcohol the stadiums only two alcohol in the stadiums only two days thought days before tournament thought does impacted on your does that impacted on your experience. a not really experience. it's a not really the games we normally end up in. you normally have a few beers beforehand we probably would have some to date been there so early they stuck budweiser at the back in non—covid. so yeah, it's you know, it's not the end of the world for me. yeah. so yeah, yeah. i mean, what do you expect, how is this tournament then? can you talk about i mean give me that long, but how can you talk about how different it's world cups you it's been other world cups you might to icc. might have been to the icc. yeah, due the world cup. yeah yeah, due to the world cup. yeah the fact it's all in one place

is, is easier to navigate in light of we've got a game in a couple of days. i it's not far on one of the trains again normally we finish up today have get in a car or train and travel another to another city start again which is quite good fun . again which is quite good fun. this time we can actually relax, enjoy the heat. i would say go , enjoy the heat. i would say go, for a beer, but that's not as easy . yeah. and the media and easy. yeah. and the media and some people have been talking lot about the issues that the kind of social issues that are happening before the game. the england players starting, the old harry side not to wear the armband because of the fifa rules book in defeats to rules that book in defeats to objective come in a machine a game from was that where the fans talking about that at all do you think it's really up to them is this is politics really them is this is politics really the football to go and play football okay they're in a position where should be able to make a stand i guess. but they've come for the football using that a tool so they can play using that a tool so they can play football . let the media play football. let the media politicians talk about it. the

fans to see the football, see drama, can be playing, then miss a game because got two yellow cards. so what do you think about the fact fifa then said you're just going to get fined for it, you're going to get a yellow for it? yeah, it's a bit poonisnt yellow for it? yeah, it's a bit poor, isn't it. yeah, i think so. yeah. it's just, it's not very good. i don't think it's a fair all right. you fair but. all right. and you guys are off into the fanzone just over there. were you all going, beer? we all see. going, have a beer? we all see. do you know how much it is too not true. but we not much. yes. yeah true. but we knew before we come. so knew that before we come. so it's got a is what it is isn't it. yeah exactly. yeah it was a drinking last so we can have a chat and you can probably soak in the england performance without alcohol. without it being by alcohol. and i why yeah , i. i think you i have. why yeah, i. i think you guys get back to it. thanks. i think just really appreciate it, guys. thank you. so if you want an update, the wales game, by guys. thank you. so if you want an |way, e, the wales game, by guys. thank you. so if you want an |way, it's1e wales game, by guys. thank you. so if you want an way, it's there'ses game, by guys. thank you. so if you want an way, it's there's an ame, by the way, it's there's an enormous score . that skyscraper enormous score. that skyscraper doneif enormous score. that skyscraper done if you can make it in the distance with the american flag at the top, i can nail now in the middle within the way i of get the so yeah that's

get the bottom so yeah that's the that is the latest. the latest that is the latest. okay poll hawkins okay at the moment poll hawkins thank very much was a very thank you very much was a very happy but quite sober england fans there terry, what relief fans there. terry, what a relief it actually talking it is. we're actually talking football, way. it's nil, football, by the way. it's nil, nil the wales nil at the moment the wales match. heard it rolling match. i heard it rolling rumours scored earlier but rumours they scored earlier but we're actually talking about the football now. but mean the run football now. but i mean the run up this has been so political up to this has been so political it's almost unbelievable. and today came was going to wear the armband he chose to not the england team still took the knee you know in your day football wasn't dragged into politics at all was it watch . i mean all was it watch. i mean shouldn't these players , shouldn't these players, shouldn't these players, shouldn't these players, shouldn't the manager try and stay of all this stuff completely ? yes. but when you've completely? yes. but when you've got so much news coverage and questions about it all time, you have to have some form of response. but i go back to what i said before about about this should have been sorted out should all have been sorted out 12 years ago when they were actually as the actually announced as a as the hosts, it was absolute, hosts, i think it was absolute, you was poor choice. you know, it was a poor choice. even blatter, who was even sepp blatter, who was instrumental getting the vote instrumental in getting the vote for said it was a bad

for qatar he said it was a bad mistake you you try to mistake. you know, you try to the best of a bad job in terms of the politics, terms of the human situation , the human rights situation, the migrant and all that migrant workers and all that sort thing. but at last, sort of thing. but at last, football is doing the talking. we've exciting start to we've an exciting start to this world cup. yeah, we've had a lot of well, so of time in matches as well, so we're the full package. we're getting the full package. i just wonder the fans back i just wonder if the fans back in uk and especially england in the uk and especially england obviously celebrate obviously are going to celebrate what with what they normally do with england throw beer england scores, throw the beer up in the prices that up in the air the prices that we've got here in qatar and scoring these goals they couldn't to throw it away couldn't afford to throw it away would throw your in the would you throw your up in the air i never would before to air know i never would before to be with i say that it's be honest with i say that it's a bit early but can we begin to think it's home? well, don't you start the are all going to be saying tomorrow as well the saying that tomorrow as well the two difficult games coming two more difficult games coming up wait that up so we'll wait and see that isn't group to get out isn't an easy group to get out of. but if england play the way they did the first game in the next two matches, then they should okay. terry butcher, should be okay. terry butcher, you forjoining you very much indeed for joining me. to treorchy and me. let's go to treorchy in and geoff is there watching geoff moody is there watching this live with wales

this game live with wales supporters . geoff housing is the supporters. geoff housing is the pub full of nervous people . it pub full of nervous people. it really is , but it's full of really is, but it's full of noisy people. that's why i'm having to hold my ear so that i can hear you. it's very very noisy here. there's a great atmosphere have been gathering throughout day. they watched the england game with highlights interest, but now wales has kicked off this where it really begins. they've waited 64 years for this moment let's hope it's not a damp squib i'm going to speak to the manager owner of the lion in york thank you for joining us adrian what a good day for wales well thank you for joining us. yeah. you come into my pub . it's great, great my pub. it's great, great atmosphere. there's a good couple hundred people in, you know, lots of families , know, lots of families, children, good mix of, men and women as well. i don't think that's welsh football. it's about it's a very family

friendly a community of friendly and a community of people together . you never do people together. you never do you associate wales with what you. we're so used to talking about wales a rugby nation. do you think wales is going over to the dark side . well i think the dark side. well i think yeah. we've always been known as a nation , maybe not so a rugby nation, maybe not so much recently with some of the results, mean results, but football, i mean the double of wales have been fantastic, bringing fantastic, you know, bringing the community together and we've got a bit a, a golden year at got a bit of a, a golden year at the minute. but some the the minute. but some of the players got think, you players we got and i think, you know think rugby can know it's i think rugby can learn from the way learn a lot from the way football conduct themselves football is conduct themselves in the home it's oh come only taking you 64 years to get it. yeah not going talk about yeah not going to talk about that hear. and think for that we hear. no and i think for us game is a cup final. now where is it. still in there with the usa at the moment we lead leading them into a false sense of security. we're going to come back. that is, think, down back. and that is, i think, down to last game with england. to the last game with england. then on. i mean, this is a game. goliath isn't, and goliath isn't, david and goliath, the small goliath, isn't it? the small wales is smallest nation to wales is the smallest nation to take part isn't it.

wales is the smallest nation to take part isn't it . and the usa take part isn't it. and the usa the biggest . yeah, the smallest the biggest. yeah, the smallest nafion the biggest. yeah, the smallest nation to qualify so qatar is slightly smaller but they're the host nation so we're the smallest to qualify against the usa who's the largest population as well? so i'm i think that's that's just s a nutshell. we're always the underdog . that's always the underdog. that's where we thrive. i think we saw earlier on i spoke to you and you were confident the wales was going to win half an hour into the match . are you still that the match. are you still that confident? very like i said , a confident? very like i said, a false sense of security. we eat in the usa now one nil the wales. i think one nil to wales. you heard it here first back to you , geoff. thank you very much you, geoff. thank you very much indeed. you, geoff. thank you very much indeed . nil you, geoff. thank you very much indeed. nil to you, geoff. thank you very much indeed . nil to wales is the indeed. nil to wales is the prediction. we'll and see. we'll find out. well, i shortly the first three games that have been played have all gone 100 minutes. in a moment i'm going to show you what the fifa president infantino over the weekend it's so we first need to take a break i think .

well qatar was a very controversial choice for a football world carpet is an islamic country its own form of shana islamic country its own form of sharia law . there were always sharia law. there were always going to be complaints about human rights. but what i hadn't and what really is why what the faraj moment was the opening speech given by fifa president gianni infantino , just listen to gianni infantino, just listen to this. i feel feel qatari sorry sorry today i feel arab . what is sorry today i feel arab. what is he on about today? i feel african . good lord . today i feel african. good lord. today i feel gay - african. good lord. today i feel gay . he's african. good lord. today i feel

gay. he's reading this chap doesn't feel today i feel the disabled . oh, dear, i dare today disabled. oh, dear, i dare today i a migrant worker is lost. the plot . i i a migrant worker is lost. the plot. i mean, the i a migrant worker is lost. the plot . i mean, the guys lost the plot. i mean, the guys lost the plot. i mean, the guys lost the plot. it's completely of , plot. it's completely of, utterly bonkers. he went to say that europeans should apologise for the last 3000 years and before it even happens. apologise for the next 3000 years. now fifa has been mired in controversy. sepp blatter , of in controversy. sepp blatter, of course, his predecessor when that decision was made, 12 years ago, all sorts scandals, all sorts of problems i now think the time has come to face up to the time has come to face up to the truth, bite the bullet. it's time we left fifa and if necessary , we'll have to have necessary, we'll have to have a referendum to so they are not fit for purpose. now the jungle, of course. matt hancock in the jungle doing rather better i

think when some but ant and dec last night on their after show podcast they seemed to suggest that somebody ought to go into jungle have a look at this fantastic says . that's don don fantastic says. that's don don fantastic says. that's don don fantastic 1987 is a very very goodidea fantastic 1987 is a very very good idea very idea. i'd like to see that. well done, don . well see that. well done, don. well i have to say , he there's been a have to say, he there's been a lot of speculate over the years about me going into the jungle. it's in all sorts of newspapers . the daily star seemed to talk about it every single year that by and it is true i have been approached several times by i'm approached several times by i'm a celeb to see get me out of here and i've always ruled it out. i've never thought it would be a good thing to do . i thought be a good thing to do. i thought it all rather humiliating, frankly, but suppose you can

neven frankly, but suppose you can never, ever say never. i'd love to get , actually. some of your to get, actually. some of your reaction, some of your feedback, whether you think i be in the jungle, what do you think. we should leave it to people like matt hancock now she was an absolute sensation when she was the first woman to launch company onto the stock exchange back in the early 1980s and 40 years on, pineapple studios is still strong. my talking pints guest tonight is debbie moore .

it's that time of the day. my favourite time of the day, and it is talking pints delighted to be joined . debbie. well, debbie, be joined. debbie. well, debbie, welcome . thank you to the welcome. thank you to the program . thank you, james. thank program. thank you, james. thank you. good to see you . now yours you. good to see you. now yours is a story that should inspire

people out there who don't necessarily have a good time . necessarily have a good time. let's go . let's go . as let's go. let's go. as i understand it, let's go. let's go. as i understand it , without a lot of understand it, without a lot of qualifications , you know, i left qualifications, you know, i left school at 15. i didn't have any o—levels or anything . i went to o—levels or anything. i went to a commercial college and it was just to learn . i mean, in those just to learn. i mean, in those days you did the shorthand and typing. yeah so i did that for a few months in manchester, grew up in and there was it was the college was was in fountain and right door to the college was a club . three coins in a fountain club. three coins in a fountain . so we sort of hung about, hung out there really . but i started out there really. but i started modelling when i was 15, so bafic modelling when i was 15, so basic day i kind of went to the university of the world because a lot of travelling and you have to learn to be independent so

modelling it was and then as i read you know a marriage that perhaps didn't go the way you wanted it to go and suddenly dancing is, is recommended to you almost for of health reasons much as anything else. yes so the marriage went wrong and i, you know , i put on a lot of you know, i put on a lot of weight. i an underactive thyroid , so i now couldn't model anymore . i was i was working two anymore. i was i was working two restaurants to pay the rent because i'd moved to london by this time. yeah in 1968 and erm and so . i went to see various and so. i went to see various doctors , they said you know you doctors, they said you know you have to take thyroxine for rest of your life. i didn't like the idea of side effects and stuff. so anyway . and homoeopathic so anyway. and homoeopathic doctor. doctor sharma he said you would need to find a dance class. it's the finest way to lose weight it exercises muscle

in your body it's uplifting and i was depressed as you can imagine. and you know to the music so that's what i did. i found there was a kind of broken down studio , floral street in down studio, floral street in covent garden . only philips was covent garden. only philips was teaching there and this was now when i mid—seventies . and so when i mid—seventies. and so i used to go with lorraine chase was to go to do this classes and then one monday at closing on friday like days notice which was horrendous for us there was about 30 teachers and a lot of dancers and by this time i was so impressed by dancers that i was so inspired by how hard they worked and i realised there was nowhere now there was nowhere in london dancers, both amateur and professional. and so was my moment when i well, i need to

open up and just across the street was langley street with all these derelict warehouse the covent garden had kind of closed down effectively. yes, the whole market had moved out in the mid seventies to nine elms. yeah and so it was , i think it was like so it was, i think it was like the fruit at langley street was the fruit at langley street was the fruit, the of bananas and pineapples so it was a pineapple warehouse house and that was it was driven to what gave you the confidence to think you could take this over set up a business and make this work without previous business experience you know so many women many people wrote to me saying exactly that how to you know, i'd love to start my own business away. i just wouldn't have confidence. well, i didn't have the confidence. what you have to do is actually have the courage you have to just very brave and go

for it and take risks and work very, very hard and as you achieve and, it begins to happen. that's when confidence starts to come , takes courage . starts to come, takes courage. yes, that's the quality yeah. courage. courage and also a work , you know, the ability to hard a lot of common sense . you need a lot of common sense. you need to get your business and just hard work and talking to you know talking seeing people who are successful finding out getting advice people and just being very tenacious . but it being very tenacious. but it became successful pretty very quickly because it just took off. yes he said, because there just was a gap in market. the people weren't doing this and it was it. it was the beginning of mtv it was the beginning of musical it was all just beginning. and there was it was nowhere . and the point was that

nowhere. and the point was that to get into a dance school for every dance school place , there every dance school place, there was 100 kids trying to get these dance schools . and i realised dance schools. and i realised this very early and thought, well, if i could make a place that's open so anybody can come , they can start at absolute beginner and go right through advanced professional and, then become a choreographer or a dancer in a west end sheriff. their dream or they can like we have we have cabbies who come and do i must give a shout cabbies are so great know they just they have a bad law you know there's so many closed roads and all this sadiq khan is not of the minority it's not me because he's also closed half the streets in covent garden for no reason. it's most important . no reason. it's most important. centre covent garden . they come centre covent garden. they come from all over the world and they call the cops can't even pick up

from the hotels or anything. so i don't none of it makes sense. we won't go down that way. but this thing took and it took off in the most extraordinary way. and in 1982, on the london exchange, you caused a complete sensation . and it seems hard to sensation. and it seems hard to believe that it's only 40 years ago, but you were the first woman and there you are standing. and my father standing just to the of you with the dark suit on. and my father sort of took you around the stock exchange that day and introduced you to i mean, even having a on the stock exchange , because the stock exchange, because there very many work there weren't very many work down there. but ultimately were the first woman to a company pubuc the first woman to a company public on the london stock exchange. and you were front of the evening standard and everywhere . that must have been everywhere. that must have been a remarkable day . well, we a remarkable day. well, we didn't know it was to be. i just needed to raise more money because i, i needed space because i, i needed space because the dancers like you

said, not only with the dancers coming in, but in like freddie mercury and tina to all those people were coming to be choreographed and then all the kit, all kids and the children, and then all the musicals that ever were. so i needed more space.i ever were. so i needed more space. i needed to raise more money, and i couldn't any more from the bank. so somebody said, oh, well, you know, if you go pubuc oh, well, you know, if you go public like you can. i also wanted to open in new york, so garden as well . anyway, i did. garden as well. anyway, i did. and that's why we went public . and that's why we went public. but we didn't expect, i think that day nothing much was happening. there wasn't , a train happening. there wasn't, a train crash or anything. so i the front of all the people was a complete sensation , was top of complete sensation, was top of all the knee , and suddenly you all the knee, and suddenly you were a mega celebrity. and after me, the prime minister in the street , i mean, so they and got street, i mean, so they and got a big award from the duke of edinburgh and it just went on but the thing you know is what

was what's astonishing is that it took a model manchester that's what to me is staggering model from manchester with a dance studio to be the woman and so it was of the first glamour stock so it did set bit of a trend that then after me andrew lloyd webber really useful. yes company richard branson took so we were like new kind of people you with public companies but none of us liked it you can't really be an entrepreneur because by the time you've presented what you're going to do , you've gone off the idea do, you've gone off the idea anyway. so so, so . i i bought it anyway. so so, so. i i bought it back at the end of the eighties followed swiftly by richard branson, actually andrew lloyd webber, because we were all saying know we can't do it inhibits in a way doesn't it. so being a public company inhibits in a lot, can't do anything but you can raise cash but it comes at a price. yeah no i get that. i don't regret it . at a price. yeah no i get that. i don't regret it. i mean, god

bloody hell . well, the publicity bloody hell. well, the publicity was publicity . oh, that was just publicity. oh, that shot was it. it was a yeah well i was, i shot was it. it was a yeah well iwas, i mean i, you know shot was it. it was a yeah well i was, i mean i, you know i just started working the city at that moment in time and remember it moment in time and i remember it was very, very big, very, very was a very, very big, very, very big thing, you know , you just big thing, you know, you just you up in new york and you opened up in new york and but this business , you but i mean, this business, you know, 40 years on. i'm know, it's 40 years on. i'm still thriving dancing. well i mean, just look at strictly come dancing and the audiences that watch it. it seems that in a very healthy place , i think, you very healthy place, i think, you know, we we're back to we're busier . we were pre—pandemic . busier. we were pre—pandemic. and because it's it is so good for your health and it so we get a lot of kids the spectrum and a lot a lot of people with problems but when they in i call it the pineapple pleasure you know because they kind of take this heavy coat of problems .

this heavy coat of problems. they walk through the door and it's wonderful and the music and it's wonderful and the music and it's just such an amazing place and all shows are rehearsing the moment they're all back . it's moment they're all back. it's just wonderful to have all the disney back in and, you know, mamma mia and pretty woman and cherin mamma mia and pretty woman and cher in been in with cher. yeah. it's just it's amazing oh. and we had matt goss rehearsing for strictly as well so it was strictly as well so it was strictly users and that's half of it. and then the other half is just for anybody well it's terrible wants to have a bit of fun and you've been recognised with an obe of course by the queen sadly no longer with us , queen sadly no longer with us, and we must mention a bit of football . got a bench of the football. got a bench of the world cup of course your parents were at the 66. yes they were. and of course because i'm from manchester i'm a manchester city support and so and so i used to go when i was very small with my dad to the matches you know and

many derby match have been you know passed to the front and so on and because if you live in manchester, a man city supporter, it's only you live anywhere else that you're a man unhed anywhere else that you're a man united supporter and. yes. hung out with with mike , which of out with with mike, which of course pleased dad. but but also hung out with george best. yes he is my dad. but he was amazing mean he played football like a ballet dancer. and i think this whole thing about football , the whole thing about football, the team, you know, if you go back to people ask me about a business you can only build business you can only build business like that become successful if you have a team you build your team. so it's a bit like football because you have your team leader like we have your team leader like we have all we have our teachers and they come , everybody becomes and they come, everybody becomes friends and you know, becomes a team and all people that work in or work, it's very important. i think as a way to in this time

when it's recession . i know you when it's recession. i know you know, i've been through a few of those i mean, you know, i was building pineapple. it was the steel strike just when we were about to build our fire escape and we didn't really know we didn't know about inflation then because it wasn't over. it's not like depressing a three, five minute debate. you've overcome all sorts of things. you're an inspiration to those out there who haven't done so well at school, you've built a team and bought a lot of happiness to a lot people. and thank you for joining me on talking points. thank you much for having me. thank you so much for having me. i would love to. i love your programme. thank you very much. okay . i've got couple of okay. i've got couple of questions that have been sent in you on the barrage, the barrage. will england win world cup? is football coming home. well, i did ask terry butcher that

earlier. he dodged very, very neatly truth is, it's probably a little bit early to say, but we're off to a very, very good. i would love to see it. we did it in 2020 cricket the other day. so who knows? robbo do you think miss beckham should be allowed back into the uk if miss beckham is allowed into the uk there will be about 65 more people in a similar position to her and i'm not that bringing great a great asset to us . marta great a great asset to us. marta asks what system of proportional representation do you want the uk? well, the easiest and cleanest would be a plus but there are many, many other systems . i there are many, many other systems. i haven't there are many, many other systems . i haven't got time to systems. i haven't got time to go through them now. what i have got time to do is to tell that we did. farage acknowledges that southampton last thursday, wembley friday, and they're going very well this we're going to clacton on the sea clacton was country. it was of course ukip land and a very very big

way. six years on from the referendum want to ask the people of clacton do you think the conservative party delivered the conservative party delivered the brexit that you wanted ? you the brexit that you wanted? you want to come and join me live at 7:00 in clacton, go to gb news dot uk to get your tickets . you dot uk to get your tickets. you better be quick, they'll be full by the morning but now it's over to mark steyn . i'm still reeling to mark steyn. i'm still reeling over seeing debbie moore with you. nigel took a dance class at her studio half a lifetime ago and i've never regretted it. she terrific pieces for what and terrific pieces for what and terrific dance studio at her place in covent garden where i'm al and he's distracted me with his story but mean i'm in a song dance mood and in fact just got the total wreckage british politics to contemplate in the next 60 minutes so there's going to be a lot of dancing in that unless one of my guests fails to turn up. we've got a great line up for you. we've got arlene

foster from gb news. we have melville. we're back. go flynn and we have viscount there. keir starmer is getting of the house of lords . but actually tony of lords. but actually tony blair already did that a quarter century ago it's all up right the weather see in a couple of minutes . hi the weather see in a couple of minutes. hi there aidan mcgivern . with the latest forecast from the met showers overnight continue in many places. eventually clear spells will develop under those clear skies. a frost and fog is likely. develop under those clear skies. a frost and fog is likely . but a frost and fog is likely. but for the time being, low pressure charge of the weather, a couple of lows across the uk, bringing weather fronts. and those weather fronts. and those weather fronts. and those weather fronts have stalled across central of the uk. so overnight they'll continue to bnng overnight they'll continue to bring some persistent for a time to northern ireland, example to northern ireland, for example nonh to northern ireland, for example north northern england north wales, northern england and the north but and the north midlands. but eventually rain turns more eventually the rain turns more patchy, on and off and patchy, more on and off and increasingly it will be showers rather than longer spells rain very showery towards the south and southwest with a gusty wind as well as the far north. but in

between clear spells and a touch of frost first thing quite murky i think across central parts of england into wales northern england into wales northern england fog and low england with some fog and low cloud places they'll live cloud in places they'll live through the morning brighter return and by the afternoon showers will confined to the southwest , the north and southwest, the north and northeast where could be some longer spells of rain and a strong wind otherwise away from these showers, sunny spells , a these showers, sunny spells, a brighter day to come for many compared with monday's weather . compared with monday's weather. and we hit the clear spells many places on tuesday evening . places on tuesday evening. temperatures falling fast through the evening, a frost forming in many places. through the evening, a frost forming in many places . but by forming in many places. but by midnight , the next bout of wet midnight, the next bout of wet and windy weather is pushing in from the west, southwest that will bring not only wind and rain, but it will bring rising temperatures by the end of the so frost free in the west whilst . we've got that cold start further east minus three, minus four celsius. some parts of northern and northeast, four celsius. some parts of northern and northeast , the rain northern and northeast, the rain in the west though quickly pushes east and east, arriving into eastern by mid—morning,

clearing here by lunchtime and then moving into and northeast scotland by afternoon. blustery showers and those showers be heavy with winds especially across wales and the southwest. and thursday , same again. wind, and thursday, same again. wind, rain followed by blustery showers .